On Nov 18, 2011, at 8:50 PM, Shifty wrote: > So, I was just about to plunk down a couple of hundred dollars on a Berthoud > front bag at Rene Herse. Mike kindly returned my phone call and immediately > asked about the bike I was going to put it on. A Rivendell, I replied (A. > Homer Hilsen). He said, do you know that the bag's weight will affect the > handling somewhat; some people can't live with it while others aren't > bothered by it at all. He said it was because of the "trail" high or low (I > don't recall which) of all Rivendell bikes and that Herse bikes have a (high, > low?) trail that accounts for weight carrying in the front. > > So what do YOU think Rivendell front bag owner? Have you ever regretted the > effect the bag has on your Rivendell's handling?
This varies not only by a bike's steering geometry but also a lot of other factors. Trying to make it merely an issue of steering geometry over simplifies the issue. For example, wheelbase strongly affects stability with a longer wheelbase bike tending to be more stable. So does the rider's weight distribution as determined by build, weight and the various positioning parameters (saddle height and fore-aft, bar reach and height relative to the saddle, etc.). Lateral frame stiffness (top and down tubes in particular) probably have an effect on how well a frame tolerates a front load. There are probably other factors. The result is that rider A could have a different experience on the very same bike as rider B just due to differences in weight and build, especially if adjustments are made to the fit of the bike. I won't describe mine in detail because my all-Rounder is so different from your AHH that the comparison would be invalid. Hopefully other people will have bagified the same size AHH with the same rack and bag, and can tell you abut their experiences- just bear in mind that your experience might be very different and the only way to find out for sure is try it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.