Living in Chicago with most of my riding thereabouts and in the upper 
Midwest makes all this easy.

My primary bike is a single speed.

My tour bike is a 1x5.  Up front is a 46.  In back a Suntour Winner with 
14-34 cogs.  (thanks to Patrick Moore who pointed out a new cottage 
business in New Hampshire that repairs and preps freewheels)

While my plan had been to stick with two bikes, I could not resist the 
temptation to get what will be my third Retrotec.  More of a rough stuff 
cross type bike.  This will also be a 1x.  Plan to start with a 44 up 
front.  The rear hub is a King single speed.  I can either use a variety of 
King cogs, or, if gears seem necessary, the Jeff Jones (modified Shimano) 6 
speed cassette - 16-36.  (currently not offered on his site.  Hope Mr. 
Jones starts making these again as I would like to have a couple more.)

On Friday, August 23, 2013 11:57:58 AM UTC-5, William wrote:
>
> "Personally, I think the 
> "standard" Riv 110/74 "compact triple" is a better solution for most 
> riders; but I'm not a STI user and I'm very familiar with this kind of 
> triple and don't find them even slightly "confusing." "
>
> I totally agree with you there.  Very useful and very non-confusing. 
>  That's why I have that setup, with bar-con shifters on both my touring 
> bike and my tandem.  It's fantastic!
>
> Furthermore, I'm glad we completely agree about compact doubles.  You run 
> your bike like a compact double -PLUS- a granny bail out for extraordinary 
> circumstances  that you practically never use.  That's precisely how I use 
> my touring bike and my tandem.  A close range 46/36 compact double would be 
> fine for you, just like it is with most people, but like a lot of people, 
> you also choose to be prepared for extraordinary circumstances.  I have no 
> problem with any of that.  Also, it doesn't surprise me much that when you 
> tried a 44/30 and a 40/26 that you found the enormous jump troublesome, 
> particularly on rollers.  As you correctly pointed out, people have to find 
> what they like on the terrain they will be riding.  
>
> I end up using my 44/30 as a 1x9 (or 1x10 on one bike) PLUS a climbing 
> range.  If my riding was more on the Pacific coast, where there are a ton 
> of rollers, I would probably swap my 30 tooth ring for a 32 or a 34, 
> because the terrain would dictate far more frequent front shifts, as you 
> correctly pointed out.   
>
> On Friday, August 23, 2013 5:35:44 AM UTC-7, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>>
>> On 08/22/2013 10:55 PM, William wrote: 
>> > "Regardless of the cassette in question, the "big jump" is due to the 
>> > 53.8% difference between the chain rings." 
>> > 
>> > My jump is 47% between chainrings.  That's much bigger than the 27% 
>> > jump from your 36 to your 46, but it is smaller than the 50% jump from 
>> > your 24 to your 36.  I don't know if I should go mad or not! 
>>
>> There's a difference between going from a rarely used small granny to 
>> middle ring, and a routine, do it all day long on every ride, shift from 
>> small to large chain ring.  It takes a lot of drama to force me to shift 
>> to the granny, and I don't mind a little of the same getting off of it.   
>> It happens only in exceptional circumstances: I spend most of my time 
>> riding in rolling country, not the mountains, and in rolling country I 
>> don't have to use the granny.    A wide range double, on the other hand, 
>> is shifted often. 
>>
>> However, everyone has to find gearing that they're happy with. There are 
>> obviously some who can tolerate frequent wide-range crossovers, and -- 
>> especially with the new breed of ultra wide range cassettes like the 
>> 11-36 -- many whose needs are fully met by them. Personally, I think the 
>> "standard" Riv 110/74 "compact triple" is a better solution for most 
>> riders; but I'm not a STI user and I'm very familiar with this kind of 
>> triple and don't find them even slightly "confusing." 
>>
>>
>>

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