Hi Drake, 

I use both Outback and Schneider for my 200+ offgrid
clients. Since the 600v mppt came out in 2011 Schneider gets my business. I
also test for them and I am now working on the XW Pro for circuit
validation testing and new cloud based gateway replacement for Combox in an
EFT. 

As for user friendly, it is something new to learn and once a client
gets up to speed it is pretty easy, I think! Some of my clients do not like
all of this tech stuff and just want reliable power. I get it! 

There were
early problems with combox firmware that got solved. The new Conext gateway
allows me to monitor my clients without special port forwarding and easy
with cell. The Insight monitoring similar to Optics but easier to use
occasionally has had issues but nothing that took long for them to fix.
There is also a tablet ap. 

You can contact me offline and I agree that it
is pretty bad when issues take too long to resolve. maybe Outback will get
it done! 
Dave Angelini Offgrid Solar
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don't"
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On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 10:43:09 -0500,
drake.chamber...@redwoodalliance.org wrote:  It seems like Outback has too
many problems now, with the Mate 3 and the discontinuation of the original,
excellent FX inverters. I had a Mate 3 loose its programming on an AC
coupled system so that the batteries had no protective relay until the Mate
3 was reprogrammed. Tech support said that this happens with the Mate 3.
That is unacceptable. Fortunately it was a dual FX system, and I had the
original Mate to put back on it.    How do the Xantrex / Schneider products
compare regarding reliability and user friendliness? Are there any
downsides to using this equipment. I'm considering going full circle back
to this line.    Thanks,   Drake  

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 Sent: Fri, 16 Nov 2018
19:39:26 -0800
 Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] mate 3s locking

   Hi william  
Very tech fix with the relay!   Fortunately or unfortunately there is no
reliable web at the location but someone who manually checks things.    Yes
the 3s still has some of the same problems    Thx Jay Peltz power.      
On
Nov 16, 2018, at 2:14 PM, William Miller  wrote:

Jay: 

I have problems
with all of my Mate3 and 3s controllers locking up. So much so that I have
implemented the following steps: 

1. For most installations I leave the
hub wire cover off and label the Mate lead. Clients are instructed to
unplug and re-plug the Cat5 lead whenever the Mate locks up. 

2. On one
installation I have a Control By Web unit ping both Mate3 units every 5
minutes. If either fails to respond after 3 attempts, a relay opens and
closes the Orange/white leads which power cycles the Mates.  

Locking up
of Mates is a fact of life with Outback equipment. I love the equipment and
I hate the equipment. 

William 

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millersolar.com
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FROM: RE-wrenches
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Tuss
SENT: Friday, November 16, 2018 12:42 PM
TO: RE-wrenches
SUBJECT: Re:
[RE-wrenches] mate 3s locking   

Hello All 

And 

Hello Jay 

I just
asked the tech support boss on this as I had no idea. 

He has a test setup
that allows him to switch individuals lines on the cat5 cables. 

We can
duplicate Jay's screen shot below by opening the some of the lines to the
cat 5 cable. 

So as a start try replacing the cat5 between the Mate3S and
the Hub. 

Using the silicone grease that comes with a Mate is never a bad
idea. 

If your customer does not have a cable on hand I would try removing
the cable several times perhaps that could help to dislodge any corrosion
or dust on the connections. 

I hope this helps. 

Take Care All


-----Original Message----- 

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Sent:
Friday, November 16, 2018 8:05 AM 

To: RE-wrenches  

Subject:
[RE-wrenches] mate 3s locking 

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HI All, 

I'm wondering if
anyone else is having mate 3s locking up problems? 

I've got 2 systems
that have had this happen. 

One is a big system ( 2 radians and 5 CC). Of
course its a long ways away and no there isn't internet so no OpticsRE.


Its been reprogramed with latest REV firmware. No change. 

thx 

jay


peltz power 

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