*Here's what bothers me most about the article. At no point does Hohler tell us that Lucchino, Henry or Warner refused to comment. He doesn't even mention the Trio except to describe the owner of the yacht.* * * *He does cast a wide...* * * *"This article is based on a series of interviews the Globe conducted with individuals familiar with the Sox operation at all levels. Most requested anonymity out of concern for their jobs or potential damage to their relationships in the organization. Others refused to comment or did not respond to interview requests."* * * *But to not SPECIFICALLY state that he reached out to the ownership and they declined to comment tells me one thing.* * * *They did comment on the grounds that he not drag them into the story. And he probably refused to insert "declined to comment" because they actually had commented.*
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't get this. > > First you said that no self-respecting editor would publish an article > without at least being able to say that the ownership declined to comment. > But then when they did publish an article without reference to the > ownership commenting, you say the paper is doing it's job. > > So I'm confused now as to what you're saying. > > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The problem is the paper printing the article? >> >> The paper is doing its job. >> >> I am assuming they are the sources or they authorized sources to speak on >> their behalf. I can't believe that Hohler would have collected this from >> minions and NOT called ownership for a comment. >> >> Assume he did, why wouldn't they go on the record saying something like: >> "we're not going to make accusations of our former manager" and distance >> themselves from the story? >> >> So are you assuming Hohler didn't call Henry/Lucchino for comment? I'd say >> that's far less likely than Lucchino spreading stuff around. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> How does the self-respecting editor let it pass without that? >>> >>> I mean, you're assuming that they are the sources, but the real problem >>> is the reporter and paper printing the piece as is. The owners may, or may >>> not, be the sources, but there is no way to tell for sure. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> And my point about the commenting is this. They DID comment, but they >>>> didn't want the comments tied to them. >>>> >>>> Otherwise, no respectable editor would let this article pass without >>>> telling the reporter, "This is some pretty damning stuff. Did you talk to >>>> the owners? If so, can we at least put in here that John Henry or Lucchino >>>> declined to comment." >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> No, I think they basically authorized the article. Happens everytime >>>>> someone leaves town. The bad stuff flows out like a sewer pipe. >>>>> >>>>> This is a fairly tight ship. I think it only loosens up when Larry & >>>>> Co. want it to loosen up. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> This seems a bit harsh. Why do you say that? Just because they >>>>>> didn't want to comment on the article? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm beginning to feel some shame about this ownership. 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