Then how did that get past the self-respecting editor? On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote:
> *Here's what bothers me most about the article. At no point does Hohler > tell us that Lucchino, Henry or Warner refused to comment. He doesn't even > mention the Trio except to describe the owner of the yacht.* > * > * > *He does cast a wide...* > * > * > *"This article is based on a series of interviews the Globe conducted with > individuals familiar with the Sox operation at all levels. Most requested > anonymity out of concern for their jobs or potential damage to their > relationships in the organization. Others refused to comment or did not > respond to interview requests."* > * > * > *But to not SPECIFICALLY state that he reached out to the ownership and > they declined to comment tells me one thing.* > * > * > *They did comment on the grounds that he not drag them into the story. And > he probably refused to insert "declined to comment" because they actually > had commented.* > > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I don't get this. >> >> First you said that no self-respecting editor would publish an article >> without at least being able to say that the ownership declined to comment. >> But then when they did publish an article without reference to the >> ownership commenting, you say the paper is doing it's job. >> >> So I'm confused now as to what you're saying. >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> The problem is the paper printing the article? >>> >>> The paper is doing its job. >>> >>> I am assuming they are the sources or they authorized sources to speak on >>> their behalf. I can't believe that Hohler would have collected this from >>> minions and NOT called ownership for a comment. >>> >>> Assume he did, why wouldn't they go on the record saying something like: >>> "we're not going to make accusations of our former manager" and distance >>> themselves from the story? >>> >>> So are you assuming Hohler didn't call Henry/Lucchino for comment? I'd >>> say that's far less likely than Lucchino spreading stuff around. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 4:08 PM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> How does the self-respecting editor let it pass without that? >>>> >>>> I mean, you're assuming that they are the sources, but the real problem >>>> is the reporter and paper printing the piece as is. The owners may, or may >>>> not, be the sources, but there is no way to tell for sure. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> And my point about the commenting is this. They DID comment, but they >>>>> didn't want the comments tied to them. >>>>> >>>>> Otherwise, no respectable editor would let this article pass without >>>>> telling the reporter, "This is some pretty damning stuff. Did you talk to >>>>> the owners? If so, can we at least put in here that John Henry or Lucchino >>>>> declined to comment." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> No, I think they basically authorized the article. Happens everytime >>>>>> someone leaves town. The bad stuff flows out like a sewer pipe. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is a fairly tight ship. I think it only loosens up when Larry & >>>>>> Co. want it to loosen up. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:57 PM, Ray Salemi <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> This seems a bit harsh. Why do you say that? Just because they >>>>>>> didn't want to comment on the article? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Tom Salemi <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm beginning to feel some shame about this ownership. 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