MattB wrote:
> With reference to Aptana terminal tabs for Rails console, server &
> general command line you wrote:
> 
>> I find this nearly useless for Rails.  I'd rather use a real terminal
>> program (on Mac OS, that means iTerm).
> 
> Care to be more specific? A terminal is only as good as the shell you
> choose, and how you configure it. Everything else is just "window
> dressing" so to speak! :-) What Rails command line related activity
> can you perform in iTerm (or any other for that matter) that you can't
> in a shell embedded an IDE?

None.  I just haven't found the IDE shells to be very pleasant to use.

> 
>> How recently have you used NetBeans?
> 
> Last week! I just found it too big and bloated for Rails needs

I agree with that.  I just don't agree that it's slow and clunky in 
general, at least on Mac OS.

> compared to Aptana. Those who subscibe to the "an editor is enough"
> would rightly say the same about Aptana or any other Rails capable
> IDE.

Right.

> 
> As I made a point of saying at both the beginning and end of my post,
> the OP needs to try a few out and see what works for him, but since he
> specifically asked about IDEs.

But the way he asked, it was clear that he assumed one was required.

> Unfortunately as is often the cae with
> these subjects, it is already degenerating into a mine is better than
> yours, IDE vs. Editor, GUI vs Command Line Editor, VI vs EMACS debate,
> even if not yet an outright flamewar...

My editor *is* better than yours, at least for me. :)

Seriously, I used to use Aptana for Rails, but stopped when I realized I 
was only using it as an editor.

Try working in Rails without an IDE if you haven't already.  I believe 
you will be happier.

> 
> Matt.

Best,

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