Tracey, I think it's a rare form of self-masochism... ;-)




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 Subject : RE: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)

 Date : Mon, 26 Jan 2009 20:07:16 -0800

 From : "Tracey de Morsella" <tdli...@multiculturaladvantage.com>

 To : <scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com>


Why are you guys watching this stuff?!?!?!? ? 
:-)

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Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 4:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)

What is "Dead and Deader". And "Basilisk"? Are you serious? It's worth a
watch?

I meant "Dragon Wars", not "Dragon Storm", as a "walk out" flick. What is
"100 Million B.C."? Is it that God-awful film with Edward Burns about the
team that goes back in time to save a comrade? And "Pterodactyl"! That's the
one! The one with Coolio as a special ops commander! Man, just seeing him in
that had me laughing my arse off!

Now that we're on it, there are a couple of other films SciFi shows that are
pretty good camp fun. One is about a group of nubile young co-eds at a
college campus in the Northeast. The lovely young lasses seem to be too good
to be true to the young men they vamp, until it's revealed they're aliens
who are feeding on the hapless stooges. I seem to remember they chose the
location because it's really cold, and they're from an ice-bound planet. I
want to say Nicole "Charles in Charge" Eggert is one of the stars. It's
really silly fun, especially when the girls start sprout tentacles and their
would-be paramours start bugging out!

Oh--and I wish I could take credit for "Even if you're on a plane, walk
out". But no, it's the movie review given to the worst movies in the
Atlanta-based indie newspaper Creative Loafing.

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From: "Martin Baxter" 
> Alright, I'm chiming in.
> 
> Worth a Mistie Watch
> 
> Dead and Deader
> Basilisk: The Serpent King
> Dragon Sword
> Dungeons &amp; Dragons: Wrath of the Dragon God Lake Placid (on loop!)
> 10.5 Apocalypse (Dean's magic makes it all better)
> 
> 
> 
> "Even if you're on a plane, walk out" (LMNAO, BTB!) Kaw ("Never more", 
> to quote Poe) Dragon Wars (sooner have my eyes burnt from their 
> sockets with white-hot
> needles)
> ANYTHING with the name Uwe Boll attached Wraiths of Roanoke (even the 
> dead folks in the movie asked to have their names removed from the 
> credits) A Sound of Thunder (always thought that it was more boomy and 
> less sucky) 100 Million B.C. (all that time... one would think they 
> would've gotten it right at some point...)
> Rise: Blood Hunter (vampyr everywhere protested the making of this, 
> regardless of the potential risks) Rock Monster (shuddering) 
> Pterodactyl (any movie in which Coolio is the best actor in the cast?) 
> Abominable (aka The Movie Which Lives Up To Its Name)
> 
> (LNAO, more to come)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)
> 
> Date : Mon, 26 Jan 2009 16:09:33 +0000
> 
> From : keithbjohn...@comcast.net
> 
> To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> 
> 
> Hey, that's cool. the real trick is knowing which B- movies are really 
> fun camp for the ages, and which are just crappy schlock.
> 
> What we need to do, gang, is start rating these movies for each other 
> on that level. See, as Martin just did, showing me that at least this 
> Dean Cain flick is a good time-waster. I've seen others of his that 
> are just plain bad. There was one where he was a security chief in an 
> underground facility creating dinosaurs from old DNA. (And isn't Cain 
> always playing a security chief or soldier in a top-secret facility?) 
> One of the baddies got loose and started having human snacks. It was 
> so bad because the CGI was horrible, and the used the *exact
> same* scene for every appearance of the creature! It was running down 
> this curving hallway, and every single time the monster was shown, it 
> was the exact same loop of film. So bad it wasn't even good camp.
> 
> So we'll do that. Whoever has sat (suffered) through a SciFi flick can 
> rate it on "camp" or MST3K factor, so the others can know if it'd be a 
> great laugh riot on a cold winter's day, or just a woefully bad piece 
> of CGI-filled dreck that's not even worth watching for derision.
> 
> And on that scale, I can drop a couple of films like that:
> 
> Worth a Mistie watch:
> 
> Rock Monster (though I don't know why, it makes me life) The Beast of 
> Bray Road (that urban werewolf legend in film) Leprechaun - yes I said 
> it. Horrible, horrible film, but Warwick Dunn (?) makes me laugh as 
> the creepy killer sprite. This ain't your daddy's Lucky Charms!
> Dragon Sword (I think) - it's the one with Patric Swayze. Again, a bad 
> movie, but acting is just good enough (it has many established actors) 
> to make it dumb fun Epoch - The first couple of these movies about 
> some alien rock thingie activating on Earth may be a bit befuddling, 
> but star David Keith helps make 'em watchable Alien Lockdown (think 
> that's it) - there's one or two of these flicks about a monster loose 
> on an orbiting prison. I think one stars Christopher Lambert. Dumb 
> fun.
> Frankenfish - not sure why I laughed at this one, it's one of the worst
ever. 
> But watching these idiot young people run from a stupid killer fish in 
> the Louisiana Bayou had me rolling
> 
> 
> 
> And from the "Even if you're on a plane, walk out" category:
> 
> Dragon Storm - I just wailed on it. American 90210 clones as 
> reincarnation of Asian warriors and royals? 'Nuff said.
> Gargoyles -- not the Cornel West camp classic--that one had great 
> makeup and high fun, camp factor. The recent remake overflowing with 
> cheap CGI Harpies - Bad acting, lackluster action, bad CGI Gryphon - 
> Bad acting (though it has established actors like Larry Drake and 
> Anthony LePalia's younger brother), lackluster action, bad CGI That 
> Francis Drake movie --came out last week starring Adrian "Highlander"
Paul.
> It was awful! The CGI ships and ocean sucked, the characters were pitiful.

> 
> There are many, many more. Basically almost every SciFi Original 
> that's loaded with cheap CGI instead of good scale models or live 
> action shots, just sucks
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> From: "Martin Baxter" 
> > Keith, you may look askance at this, but I'm *good* with Dean Cain 
> > in such movies. I think that, instinctively, he knows that these are 
> > B-moives, and
> gives
> > them the full camp effect. One of those movies aired last weekend on
Skiffy. 
> > Can't remember the title, but he played an Army officer leading a 
> > Delta team into a Central American country to find the members of a 
> > research team that hadn't answered calls. They were working on an 
> > experimental medicine that created zombies. I was foing to pass on t 
> > until I heard that Dean was
> starring. 
> > I admit to two hours of brain-off-the-hook fun. Didn't have to 
> > Mistie it. Dean did that himself.
> > 
> > Ah! "Dead and Deader" was the flick.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> > Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Stephen Baldwin (was Dragon Wars)
> > 
> > Date : Mon, 26 Jan 2009 03:58:20 +0000
> > 
> > From : keithbjohn...@comcast.net
> > 
> > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com
> > 
> > 
> > I'll see your Stephen Baldwin, and raise you Lorenzo Lamas ("Raptor 
> > Island")
> and
> > Dean Cain (a whole bunch of cheesy dino flicks). Those guys are in a 
> > bunch of really bad flicks. And while we're at it, today I was 
> > myself (as always) lamenting the crappy movies that SciFi serves up. 
> > One thing you note pretty quickly is that they seem to be going 
> > through the cryptid and mythology books for inspiration. I mean, 
> > look at all the films they've done in the last couple of years: 
> > Gargoyles, Harpies, Gryphon, Wyvern, Basilisk, Minotaur, Baal: The 
> > Storm God, Chupacabra, Rock Monster--the whole encyclopedia of myth 
> > and
> legend. 
> > And then add in Kaw (killer crows), Frankenfish, Boa vs. Python--you 
> > get the idea.
> > 
> > Baldwin, Lamas, and myths aside, the biggest problem is that all 
> > these movies suck! Bad acting, bad writing, and really, really bad 
> > CGI. Every monster they craft is worse than a the CGI in a five year old
video game. Horrible!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: Aubrey Leatherwood
> > > 
> > > Friday night into yesterday was one of those sweat shop writing 
> > > sessions for
> > me. 
> > > Couch, laptop, grilled meat, strong iced beverage, and remote 
> > > control. Ahh
> the
> > > remote control... Useful when something is on... Not so useful
yesterday. 
> > > Harpies! Yep, Harpies on Sci Fi. Now
> > > 
> > > Much of the folklore, mythology, even urban legend I've loved to 
> > > read about since I was tiny, get made into SciFi Channel movies or 
> > > movies that *make
> it*
> > to
> > > SciFi. Harpies, gargoyles, dragons, Merlin (god I hate sam neill 
> > > but i love miranda richardson), etc... I'm excited by the prospect 
> > > of them all, which
> is
> > > why--as if I have the memory span of a fruitfly--I watch (or try 
> > > to watch)
> > these
> > > programs. I desperately want to suspend my disbelief for an hour 
> > > or two, get lost in a story, then come back from my odyssey 
> > > refreshed and entertained. I
> > am,
> > > yes people, a damn idiot!
> > > 
> > > In comes Stephen Baldwin. 
> > > 
> > > I've been trying to figure out how to phrase it for some minutes 
> > > now, and
> > can't
> > > seem to do so. I feel like an atrocity has been visited on me. How 
> > > does this
> > guy
> > > continue to get work, and why does a ton of it end up on Sci Fi? 
> > > Why? This
> guy
> > > has made two hundred and seventy million movies. What deal has he 
> > > made or perhaps one of his more talented brothers (take your pick 
> > > from the pill
> > poppin,
> > > punch throwin, drunk dialin baldwin grab bag) with the devil to 
> > > persist in
> > this
> > > nonsense.
> > > 
> > > In Harpies he was an NYPD cop that went back in time after 
> > > accidentally get
> > some
> > > amulets and inserting them into a glowing egg of some sort. Back 
> > > in time he demands entry into the Lord's castle by demanding that 
> > > he let Nicky from the NYPD in. It gets worse, but I won't describe 
> > > anymore to you. I don't have
> to,
> > > even if you haven't seen it, you know how bad it is.
> > > 
> > > This pointless, directionless rant brought to you by the letter C 
> > > for craptastic.Aubrey Leatherwoodwww.aubreyleatherwood.comFaceBook 
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> > > NOMINEE FOR BEST
> CONTEMPORARY
> > > EROTICA 2008ISBN: 978-0-9818905-0-0Lyrical Press. Inc
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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> > 
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> 
> 
> 
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