Re: [Cooker] kde3 rpm - trouble with arts

2002-04-04 Thread trax

Grab the updated, arts, libarts rpms from, that helps

ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/Mandrake-8.2-i586/kde-3.0.0


On Wed, 2002-04-03 at 22:11, Matt and Sarah wrote:
 I have installed the new kde3 rpms from ftp.kde.org.  When i log into
 kde3, i get a message that the sound server couldn't autodetect which
 I/O method to use, and nothing running through arts works, although
 non-kde apps still work ok (xmms, mplayer).
 
 Any clues on a fix?  Is this a bug in the rpms.  I note a couple of
 other people have had the same issue.
 
 Matt
 
 
 




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Re: [Cooker] BUG report for Netstat

2002-04-04 Thread Florin

Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Saint-Michel Laurent [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  [laurent@linux laurent]$ netstat -c -ip
  Table d'interfaces noyau
  Iface   MTU Met   RX-OK RX-ERR RX-DRP RX-OVR   TX-OK TX-ERR TX-DRP TX-OVR Flg
  eth0   1500   0 542  0  0  0 674  0  0  0
   BMRU lo16436   0 685  0  0  0 685  0  0 
   0 LRU ppp0   1500   0   30075  0  0  0   22412  0  0
0 MOPRU
  Iface   MTU Met   RX-OK RX-ERR RX-DRP RX-OVR   TX-OK TX-ERR TX-DRP TX-OVR Flg
  Erreur de segmentation
 
 strange, i cannot reproduce it despite net-tools hasn't be rebuilded
 since january.
 
 florin, could you test on a mdk8.2 ?

it works for me with the latest cooker 
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[Cooker] Cooker iso snapshot ?

2002-04-04 Thread Cosmic Flo

What about a cooker iso snapshot with KDE3 and updates ?
If no, how to do easyly a cooker iso for install ?

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Re: [Cooker] BUG report for Netstat

2002-04-04 Thread Thierry Vignaud

Florin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  [laurent@linux laurent]$ netstat -c -ip
  Table d'interfaces noyau
  Iface   MTU Met   RX-OK RX-ERR RX-DRP RX-OVR   TX-OK TX-ERR TX-DRP TX-OVR Flg
  eth0   1500   0 542  0  0  0 674  0  0  0
   BMRU lo16436   0 685  0  0  0 685  0  0 
   0 LRU ppp0   1500   0   30075  0  0  0   22412  0  0
0 MOPRU
  Iface   MTU Met   RX-OK RX-ERR RX-DRP RX-OVR   TX-OK TX-ERR TX-DRP TX-OVR Flg
  Erreur de segmentation
 
 strange, i cannot reproduce it despite net-tools hasn't be rebuilded
 since january.
 
 florin, could you test on a mdk8.2 ?

 it works for me with the latest cooker 

as for me, but in mdk8.2 ?

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Re: [Cooker] Cooker iso snapshot ?

2002-04-04 Thread Thierry Vignaud

Cosmic Flo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 What about a cooker iso snapshot with KDE3 and updates ?
 If no, how to do easyly a cooker iso for install ?

use misc/ scripts :-)

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[Cooker] X mouse: depends on how X started...

2002-04-04 Thread Pierre Fortin


On LM8.2, I've been chasing a strange problem...

The mouse worked after 8.2 install; but now, I did what I hate most
(reboot) after taking my laptop along on a short trip...

Under the following  conditions, the mouse *works in VC mode* (gdm);
but *not* under X:
- booting with or without autologin
- init 3 -- init 5

# lsof | grep psaux  # *should* give something like:
X1905  root  5u  CHR10,1  84 /dev/misc/psaux
but I get nothing when the problem exists...

From a VC, as a regular user, startx and mouse works.

Anyone have a hint...?

Still looking,
Pierre






Re: [Cooker] Does Mandrake include blinux?

2002-04-04 Thread Reinout van Schouwen

Hello Timothy,

On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Timothy R. Butler wrote:

 (http://www.ofb.biz/article.php?sid=75) who asked if Mandrake supported
 screen readers for the blind/visually impaired. I seem to remember from my

I'm not sure this is helpful, but GNOME2 (due out soon) supports a lot of
accessibility features. When it is out I'm sure it'll work on Mandrake as
well.

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[Cooker] Kdevelop and htdig are broken.

2002-04-04 Thread Nicholas Brown

My previous mail to got no response.

It looks like the fix for KDE bug #34152 has not been applied to Mandrake. 
(kdelibs-devel) and thus using kdoc in kdevelop is broken.

And using the documentation creation facility in kdevelop using htdig (either 
in the options-kdevelopsetup menu or in intaial setup dialog) has been 
broken in mandrake for as long as I can remember. compalains about not being 
able to create the index. try it and see.

To fix this the kdev_htdig rpm needs create/include the directory 
/usr/share/apps/kdevelop/htdig/db/

These two kde packages need updating.

This allows the creation of the search indexes.
I not sure if it allows the searching to work for projects, (Shift F2 in 
kdevelop still does not work for me) but it is a step closer. It probably 
needs to be looked at closer.

Doing my bit to try and help,
thanks,
Nick
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Re: [Cooker] [cdrecord] Support for external Recorder ??

2002-04-04 Thread Faraj Meir

it's a Laptop (HP Omnibook 6000);
it doesn't have fireware .
but thanks fo your answer;-)
- Original Message -
From: Tech At Mathco Dot Com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [Cooker] [cdrecord] Support for external Recorder ??


 There is always firewire pcmcia cards to get if its not integrated.
 Hopefully cooker has support for them.

 /Matt

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 From: J.A. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 5:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [Cooker] [cdrecord] Support for external Recorder ??


 
  On 2002.03.23 Faraj Meir wrote:
  Hi ,
  There is any know external USB recorder known to work with Linux
mandrake
 .
  I want to buy a new recorder for my laptop but my preference is for an
  external one .
  Meir Faraj
  
 
  I heve used both an HP and a a IOMEGA. Both worked well, just generic
  usb-storage needed.
 
  BUT: if you are going to really _use_ it, not just to burn casual cds,
buy
  an scsi one (I would vote Plextor or Yamaha).
 
  oops, it is a laptop...are you so lucky to have firewire ?
 
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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake menus in KDE3

2002-04-04 Thread anyone

Vincent Meyer, MD wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 How difficult is it to get the Mandrake menus to work with the kde3 cvs?
 What code has to be substitued, and is there a relatively easy way to do this?
 
 Thanks
 
 V.
Try == MCC ==System ==Menus == open it/edit to your taste:) == save
It works for me for every KDE update, Kde3 included (rpm packages), it
may work for you to.



Irek




Re: [Cooker] [new SRPM] tightvnc-1.2.3

2002-04-04 Thread Oden Eriksson

On Tuesdayen den 2 April 2002 20.07, Han wrote:

 It is my intend to build a replacing package.

(since no one else seems interested...)

A while ago I submitted patches to upgrade current vnc with latest tightvnc 
(patch), but it went unoticed.

Also, I experienced very slow performance on windows to windows with 
tightvnc, I don't know why...

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[Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS

2002-04-04 Thread Joe Simon

Just installed Mandrake's KDE3 packages.  This must be the worst yet!

1) No menu's.
2) Installed in /opt rather than /usr (KDE2 is in /usr).  The packages are 
not relocatable.  What if someone does not have fs /opt or enough space on / 
?
3) ksplash seg faults just right after login.
4) Many other seg faults.

Is this just a Mandrake problem or KDE problem?

How can kde.org say the following on their web site:

On April 3rd 2002, the KDE Project released KDE 3.0, the Third-Generation 
of the Leading Desktop for Linux/UNIX, Offering Enterprises, Governments, 
Schools, and Businesses an Outstanding Free and Open Desktop Solution. 

Can you imagine students in grade 7-9 getting all these seg faults and not 
having any menu's?

I am disappointed!

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Re: [Cooker] BUG report for Netstat

2002-04-04 Thread Florin

Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Florin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
   [laurent@linux laurent]$ netstat -c -ip
   Table d'interfaces noyau
   Iface   MTU Met   RX-OK RX-ERR RX-DRP RX-OVR   TX-OK TX-ERR TX-DRP TX-OVR Flg
   eth0   1500   0 542  0  0  0 674  0  0  0
BMRU lo16436   0 685  0  0  0 685  0  0 
0 LRU ppp0   1500   0   30075  0  0  0   22412  0  0
 0 MOPRU
   Iface   MTU Met   RX-OK RX-ERR RX-DRP RX-OVR   TX-OK TX-ERR TX-DRP TX-OVR Flg
   Erreur de segmentation
  
  strange, i cannot reproduce it despite net-tools hasn't be rebuilded
  since january.
  
  florin, could you test on a mdk8.2 ?
 
  it works for me with the latest cooker 
 
 as for me, but in mdk8.2 ?

it works fine on an 8.2 too here ...
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Re: [Cooker] mandrake kde3 for 8.2 is a mess !

2002-04-04 Thread anyone

valter m wrote:
 
 when will be fixed the kde3 version for 8.2 installation?
 
 thanks,
 valter
 
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Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS

2002-04-04 Thread anyone

Joe Simon wrote:
 
 Just installed Mandrake's KDE3 packages.  This must be the worst yet!
 
 1) No menu's.
==
== MCC == System == Menus == open/edit it (if you wish)== save
it works after every Kde (2/3) update
===
 2) Installed in /opt rather than /usr (KDE2 is in /usr).  The packages are
 not relocatable.  What if someone does not have fs /opt or enough space on /
 ?
 3) ksplash seg faults just right after login.
 4) Many other seg faults.
 
 Is this just a Mandrake problem or KDE problem?
 
 How can kde.org say the following on their web site:
 
 On April 3rd 2002, the KDE Project released KDE 3.0, the Third-Generation
 of the Leading Desktop for Linux/UNIX, Offering Enterprises, Governments,
 Schools, and Businesses an Outstanding Free and Open Desktop Solution. 
 
 Can you imagine students in grade 7-9 getting all these seg faults and not
 having any menu's?
 
 I am disappointed!
 
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Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS

2002-04-04 Thread Oden Eriksson

On Thursdayen den 4 April 2002 16.29, Joe Simon wrote:
 Just installed Mandrake's KDE3 packages.  This must be the worst yet!
 2) Installed in /opt rather than /usr (KDE2 is in /usr).  The packages are
 not relocatable.  What if someone does not have fs /opt or enough space on
 / ?

then you must type man ln.

:-)

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Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS

2002-04-04 Thread Robert Fox

I found a way to make it all work . . .

After a fresh 8.2 install - I downloaded the KDE3 (optimized) RPMS from
www.pclinuxonline.com (texstar) for 8.2

Then I did the following (outside X in a console screen cntl-alt-F1)

In my home directory:  $mv .kde .kde_old
then su to root and from the kde3 directory do the following:

rpm -Uvh lib*
rpm -Uvh arts*
rpm -Uvh kde*

If you have the kdegraphics3 package, then remove the gphoto2 (rpm -e
gphoto2)

After the install I started KDE3 and ran menudrake from the control
center to recreate the menus under KDE.  I also installed the
mosfet-liquid theme (which is awesome!)

Everything worked beautifully (including sound) and I think KDE3 is much
faster and cooler  . .

I did this on three different machines so far without consequence!

Good luck!

R.Fox


On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 16:29, Joe Simon wrote:
 Just installed Mandrake's KDE3 packages.  This must be the worst yet!
 
 1) No menu's.
 2) Installed in /opt rather than /usr (KDE2 is in /usr).  The packages are 
 not relocatable.  What if someone does not have fs /opt or enough space on / 
 ?
 3) ksplash seg faults just right after login.
 4) Many other seg faults.
 
 Is this just a Mandrake problem or KDE problem?
 
 How can kde.org say the following on their web site:
 
 On April 3rd 2002, the KDE Project released KDE 3.0, the Third-Generation 
 of the Leading Desktop for Linux/UNIX, Offering Enterprises, Governments, 
 Schools, and Businesses an Outstanding Free and Open Desktop Solution. 
 
 Can you imagine students in grade 7-9 getting all these seg faults and not 
 having any menu's?
 
 I am disappointed!
 
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Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS

2002-04-04 Thread Buchan Milne

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Robert Fox wrote:
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| After the install I started KDE3 and ran menudrake from the control
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Does:
$ update-menus
not do this for you much more easily?


Buchan, still waiting for our KDE mirror to catch up 


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Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS

2002-04-04 Thread Luc Roseberry

Le jeu 04/04/2002 à 09:29, Joe Simon a écrit :
 Just installed Mandrake's KDE3 packages.  This must be the worst yet!
 
 1) No menu's.

When login from select KDE3 not KDE.

 2) Installed in /opt rather than /usr (KDE2 is in /usr).  The packages are 
 not relocatable.  What if someone does not have fs /opt or enough space on / 
 ?

When running rpm command I got an error not enough space on / so I
moved /opt/kde3 (in fact just the kde3 directory and contents) to
another file system then made a link in /opt to /NewLocation/kde3. After
that every rpm command (re-running the last failed rmp command)
succeeded.

Now KDE3 is running just fine with some minor problem (I am using it and
Evolution to write this message).

Used the most updated rpm packages. See www.pclinuxonline.com
particularly for arts.

 
 Is this just a Mandrake problem or KDE problem?

Neither.
 
 How can kde.org say the following on their web site:
 
 On April 3rd 2002, the KDE Project released KDE 3.0, the Third-Generation 
 of the Leading Desktop for Linux/UNIX, Offering Enterprises, Governments, 
 Schools, and Businesses an Outstanding Free and Open Desktop Solution. 
 

Without shame but with a lot of proudness...

 Can you imagine students in grade 7-9 getting all these seg faults and not 
 having any menu's?
 
 I am disappointed!
I am not!
 
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Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS

2002-04-04 Thread Brook Humphrey

On Thursday 04 April 2002 06:49 am, you wrote:
 Joe Simon wrote:
  Just installed Mandrake's KDE3 packages.  This must be the worst yet!
 
  1) No menu's.

 ==
 == MCC == System == Menus == open/edit it (if you wish)== save
 it works after every Kde (2/3) update
 ===

Yea that whould be great if drakconf whould even come up. It simply whould 
not come up on my machine. Also if tried from the command prompt there were 
no errors. No nothing.


  2) Installed in /opt rather than /usr (KDE2 is in /usr).  The packages
  are not relocatable.  What if someone does not have fs /opt or enough
  space on / ?
  3) ksplash seg faults just right after login.
  4) Many other seg faults.
 
  Is this just a Mandrake problem or KDE problem?
 
  How can kde.org say the following on their web site:
 
  On April 3rd 2002, the KDE Project released KDE 3.0, the
  Third-Generation of the Leading Desktop for Linux/UNIX, Offering
  Enterprises, Governments, Schools, and Businesses an Outstanding Free and
  Open Desktop Solution. 
 
  Can you imagine students in grade 7-9 getting all these seg faults and
  not having any menu's?
 
  I am disappointed!
 
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Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS

2002-04-04 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 07:36:23 -0800
Brook Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thursday 04 April 2002 06:49 am, you wrote:
  Joe Simon wrote:
   Just installed Mandrake's KDE3 packages.  This must be the worst yet!
  
   1) No menu's.
 
  ==
  == MCC == System == Menus == open/edit it (if you wish)== save
  it works after every Kde (2/3) update
  ===
 
 Yea that whould be great if drakconf whould even come up. It simply whould 
 not come up on my machine. Also if tried from the command prompt there were 
 no errors. No nothing.
 
 
Then try menudrake instead


   Charles




[Cooker] Mandrake8.2 server

2002-04-04 Thread anyone

On this list, somebody wrote few days ago about running Mandrake8.2
server without firewall.
As I recall it, link to the web page was provided.
Please, email it again.

Regards;

Irek Stroinski




Re: [Cooker] Mandrake8.2 server

2002-04-04 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On this list, somebody wrote few days ago about running Mandrake8.2
 server without firewall.
 As I recall it, link to the web page was provided.
   Please, email it again.

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/


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[Cooker] Mdk 8.2 - cannot go into Win2k system directories

2002-04-04 Thread W. Kasberg

Since 8.2 (and the 8.2 betas) I cannot go to system directories like winnt, 
programs.
Win2k (and Win98) are on FAT32 partitions and are correctly recognized by 
fdsik.
I can switch to all normal (i.e. non system) directories and see the contents 
and I can copy to and from those directories.

Since the system branches are not accessable codeweaver wine does not 
recognize installed windows.

Does someone have any hint?

Thanks
W. Kasberg
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[Cooker] Eclipt Roaster Fix for Mdk8.2 and Cooker

2002-04-04 Thread Tim McKenzie

I've been exchanging emails with Martin, the creator of Eroaster, most of the 
morning and he has now completely fixed the autodetect problem eroast had 
with mandrake 8.2 and the current cooker.

The new tarballs/packages should be uploaded within the next hour. I've 
tested here and have had no problems. For those that do not want to wait, 
I've attached the new files. Just untar and place them in /usr/lib/eroaster/

Please note the current rpm ( eroaster-2.0.12-2mdk ) did not correctly fix 
this due to IO errors. The new version is 2.1.0

-Tim




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[Cooker] BUG: drakproxy does not export env variables http_proxy and ftp_proxy

2002-04-04 Thread pascal

drakproxy should export variables in /etc/proxy.sh, thus the follwing line sould be 
added to this file

 export http_proxy ftp_proxy

Thanks for the nice work on Mandrake 8.2 and kde3 to all the team and supporters :)
Pascal




Re: [Cooker] vim 6.1-1mdk - re-linking message

2002-04-04 Thread Laurent CREPET

On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 03:46:29PM -0400, skidley wrote:
 On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 04:12:30PM +0200, Gwenole Beauchesne wrote:
  for his problem: libncurses does seem to be the only lib used by vim
  that uses the ospeed symbol.
  
  Actually, I don't think that libncurses has the ospeed symbol. That's 
  libermcap2. ncurses defines its own ospeed symbol as _nc_ospeed.
  
  
  
 upgrading libncurses5 fixed the problem here.

Yes, it does. Thanks all for your answers.

Laurent. 
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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake8.2 server

2002-04-04 Thread anyone

Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  On this list, somebody wrote few days ago about running Mandrake8.2
  server without firewall.
  As I recall it, link to the web page was provided.
Please, email it again.
 
 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/
 
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Thanks alot.

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Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS

2002-04-04 Thread SI Reasoning

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On Thursday 04 April 2002 09:44 am, Luc Roseberry wrote:
 Le jeu 04/04/2002 à 09:29, Joe Simon a écrit :
  2) Installed in /opt rather than /usr (KDE2 is in /usr).  The packages
  are not relocatable.  What if someone does not have fs /opt or enough
  space on / ?

 When running rpm command I got an error not enough space on / so I
 moved /opt/kde3 (in fact just the kde3 directory and contents) to
 another file system then made a link in /opt to /NewLocation/kde3. After
 that every rpm command (re-running the last failed rmp command)
 succeeded.

I had the same problem, but this is where lvm really shines. I took a chunk of 
unused space and added it to my mandrake lvm directory and created a /opt ( I 
created about 1 gig partition and have over 350mg free space left after 
install) and mounted it (while also creating more room in my /home and/usr 
directories. It did not take very long to do it and it was working without a 
rebootsweet.
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[Cooker] Running cooker, good or bad?

2002-04-04 Thread Michael Andreen

I posted this as reply to another thread, but looks like the discussion in 
that thread is over and noone is planning an answer, so here it is now, but 
not as a reply.

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wednesday 03 April 2002 10.29, Laurent Montel wrote:
 Perhaps you don't know but cooker is DIFFERENT from 8.2 !

When this is up.. It's been said that it's dangerous to run cooker, but how 
dangerous is it really?

I've been idling on this mailinglist for a few months now and I can't see 
that it's more dangerous than always compiling and running the latest release 
of everything (which I tend to be doing after a while, or stealing a cooker 
package once in a while and get it into the stable dist), actually it seems 
less dangerous since you mdk guys are more experianced and follows the 
development of your packages better than me (I guess).

So what's recommended? Running a stable release and compiling the latest 
software/ using a few cooker packages in the stable release or running a pure 
cooker system?

Michael Andreen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS

2002-04-04 Thread Timothy R. Butler

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 1) No menu's.

  Menus came up just fine here.

 2) Installed in /opt rather than /usr (KDE2 is in /usr).  The packages are
 not relocatable.  What if someone does not have fs /opt or enough space on
 / ?

   Use ln -s /usr/opt /opt 
   (or whereever else you'd like to put it).

   Overall, this is way better then spewing several hundred megs of files 
all over /usr.

 3) ksplash seg faults just right after login.

  Only the first time...

 4) Many other seg faults.


  Where? Everything is stable here.

  -Tim

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Re: [Cooker] siag-3.5.1-2

2002-04-04 Thread Thierry Vignaud

Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Description :
 Siag Office consists of :
 - the word processor Pathetic Writer,
 - the spreadsheet Siag,
 - the animation program Egon Animator,
 - the file manager Xfiler,
 - the text editor Xedplus,
 - the Postscript viewer Gvu.

 reading this leads to the belief that once saig is installed all the
 noted apps will be available which they are not.

yep, this was the srpm description, i'll move this to siag-common.

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[Cooker] New S3 Savage driver is out 1.1.23t

2002-04-04 Thread Steve Fox

http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html

This release adds some new card support, but more importantly (for me),
it fixed video playback with 24-bit color.

-- 

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http://k-lug.org





Re: [Cooker] Running cooker, good or bad?

2002-04-04 Thread Buchan Milne

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You would have noticed problems with libpng, which people had when
running a hybrid stable/cooker system. This is what can happen, since
you may be running two pieces of software which were compiled against
two different, and incompatible verions of the same library, thus
conflicting.

IMHO, if you can't stick with a stable release, then either run cooker
(and be prepared for things to break often if you sync often), or
rebuild cooker packages on your stable box (which is what I do). Of
course, if you rebuild, you might still end up with a broken package,
but at least you won't be mixing and matching libraries. Of course, if
you try and update something like evolution, you will probably need a
new gal, which will need a new bonobo, which will need a new GConf which
will need a new  However, something like Mozilla (if the stable
Nautilus SRPM builds agains the new nautilus, and you are prepared to
break Galeon until they release an updated version) shoulnd't be too bad.

But don't use cooker packages (without recompiling) on a stable release,
unless you know for a fact none of the libraries used have changed
(usually quite unlikely). You should never need to use --nodeps when
installing RPMs, otherwise you have done something wrong ...

That said, I don't have the bandwidth to run cooker, so I could be
totally wrong ...

Buchan

Michael Andreen wrote:
| I posted this as reply to another thread, but looks like the
discussion in
| that thread is over and noone is planning an answer, so here it is
now, but
| not as a reply.
|
| To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| On Wednesday 03 April 2002 10.29, Laurent Montel wrote:
|
|Perhaps you don't know but cooker is DIFFERENT from 8.2 !
|
|
| When this is up.. It's been said that it's dangerous to run cooker,
but how
| dangerous is it really?
|
| I've been idling on this mailinglist for a few months now and I
can't see
| that it's more dangerous than always compiling and running the latest
release
| of everything (which I tend to be doing after a while, or stealing a
cooker
| package once in a while and get it into the stable dist), actually it
seems
| less dangerous since you mdk guys are more experianced and follows the
| development of your packages better than me (I guess).
|
| So what's recommended? Running a stable release and compiling the latest
| software/ using a few cooker packages in the stable release or running
a pure
| cooker system?
|
| Michael Andreen
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|
|



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Re: [Cooker] Running cooker, good or bad?

2002-04-04 Thread Salane King

I guess the correct answer would be that it depends on several things.
first- Sometimes programs just don't work. 
second. sometimes the os just doesn't work. usually when some major change in 
the os like new rpm glibc gcc etc.
I am by no means an expert but I have been using it on my home computer since 
about 7.0. and not that i can say that there have been times that i have 
resorted to reinstalling the latest stable version until cooker stabilized. I 
would not recommend running a mission critical server on cooker, but for home 
use and with some understanding of sometimes things break, go for it and when 
you find a bug, report it in a non-offending and well elaborated manner. That 
is what cooker is here for.

Salane King


On Thursday 04 April 2002 01:15 pm, Michael Andreen wrote:
 I posted this as reply to another thread, but looks like the discussion in
 that thread is over and noone is planning an answer, so here it is now, but
 not as a reply.

 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Wednesday 03 April 2002 10.29, Laurent Montel wrote:
  Perhaps you don't know but cooker is DIFFERENT from 8.2 !

 When this is up.. It's been said that it's dangerous to run cooker, but how
 dangerous is it really?

 I've been idling on this mailinglist for a few months now and I can't see
 that it's more dangerous than always compiling and running the latest
 release of everything (which I tend to be doing after a while, or
 stealing a cooker package once in a while and get it into the stable
 dist), actually it seems less dangerous since you mdk guys are more
 experianced and follows the development of your packages better than me (I
 guess).

 So what's recommended? Running a stable release and compiling the latest
 software/ using a few cooker packages in the stable release or running a
 pure cooker system?

 Michael Andreen
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

-- 
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Re: [Cooker] Running cooker, good or bad?

2002-04-04 Thread Warly

Michael Andreen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 So what's recommended? Running a stable release and compiling the latest 
 software/ using a few cooker packages in the stable release or running a pure 
 cooker system?

Let's be a man.

Let's live the hard way.

Use cook





Re: [Cooker] Running cooker, good or bad?

2002-04-04 Thread David Barker

I've been running cooker myself for a good number of months now - I can safely 
say, it is dangerous if you want a stable system - I've had it break my 
xconfig, kdm, loose my mail, and screw up other bits and pieces (through my 
own dumb-ass fault and cooker been broken) 

That said, I still run cooker... I make regular backup's of /etc and /home, 
and I leave mail on a seperate mailserver as a backup. Cooker is a great way 
of running the very latest bleeding edge software but more importantly, it's 
a _great_ way of learning about linux. If you spot any bugs in it, by all 
means report them to the list (but try and be polite about it after it's 
wrecked something ;¬) 

btw: More often than not, someone else will have spotted the problem before 
you, so it's often worth checking back through the archives... that's my 
excuse for not being able to contribute much anyway ;)


On Thursday 04 Apr 2002 7:15 pm, Michael Andreen wrote:
 I posted this as reply to another thread, but looks like the discussion in
 that thread is over and noone is planning an answer, so here it is now, but
 not as a reply.

 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Wednesday 03 April 2002 10.29, Laurent Montel wrote:
  Perhaps you don't know but cooker is DIFFERENT from 8.2 !

 When this is up.. It's been said that it's dangerous to run cooker, but how
 dangerous is it really?

 I've been idling on this mailinglist for a few months now and I can't see
 that it's more dangerous than always compiling and running the latest
 release of everything (which I tend to be doing after a while, or
 stealing a cooker package once in a while and get it into the stable
 dist), actually it seems less dangerous since you mdk guys are more
 experianced and follows the development of your packages better than me (I
 guess).

 So what's recommended? Running a stable release and compiling the latest
 software/ using a few cooker packages in the stable release or running a
 pure cooker system?

 Michael Andreen
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS

2002-04-04 Thread Joe Simon

www.pclinuxonline.com ??

I would of thought ftp.kde.org would always have the latest and best RPMS

?


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS
Date: 04 Apr 2002 16:51:29 +0200

I found a way to make it all work . . .

After a fresh 8.2 install - I downloaded the KDE3 (optimized) RPMS from
www.pclinuxonline.com (texstar) for 8.2

Then I did the following (outside X in a console screen cntl-alt-F1)

In my home directory:  $mv .kde .kde_old
then su to root and from the kde3 directory do the following:

rpm -Uvh lib*
rpm -Uvh arts*
rpm -Uvh kde*

If you have the kdegraphics3 package, then remove the gphoto2 (rpm -e
gphoto2)

After the install I started KDE3 and ran menudrake from the control
center to recreate the menus under KDE.  I also installed the
mosfet-liquid theme (which is awesome!)

Everything worked beautifully (including sound) and I think KDE3 is much
faster and cooler  . .

I did this on three different machines so far without consequence!

Good luck!

R.Fox


On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 16:29, Joe Simon wrote:
  Just installed Mandrake's KDE3 packages.  This must be the worst yet!
 
  1) No menu's.
  2) Installed in /opt rather than /usr (KDE2 is in /usr).  The packages 
are
  not relocatable.  What if someone does not have fs /opt or enough space 
on /
  ?
  3) ksplash seg faults just right after login.
  4) Many other seg faults.
 
  Is this just a Mandrake problem or KDE problem?
 
  How can kde.org say the following on their web site:
 
  On April 3rd 2002, the KDE Project released KDE 3.0, the 
Third-Generation
  of the Leading Desktop for Linux/UNIX, Offering Enterprises, 
Governments,
  Schools, and Businesses an Outstanding Free and Open Desktop Solution. 
 
  Can you imagine students in grade 7-9 getting all these seg faults and 
not
  having any menu's?
 
  I am disappointed!
 
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Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS

2002-04-04 Thread Robert Fox

This address is made from someone called TEXSTAR

He makes specially packaged RPMS which are better optimized for
Mandrake.  If you check his KDE3 RPMS - they are smaller because they
are compiled without the debug code and they run leaner.

These are NOT the official KDE packages from KDE, but they are specially
created and optimized for Mandrake.

He's also got some other cool stuff like a Mandrake distribution
optimized for Athelon processors . . .

FYI

Cheers,
R.Fox


On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 21:08, Joe Simon wrote:
 www.pclinuxonline.com ??
 
 I would of thought ftp.kde.org would always have the latest and best RPMS
 
 ?
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox)
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS
 Date: 04 Apr 2002 16:51:29 +0200
 
 I found a way to make it all work . . .
 
 After a fresh 8.2 install - I downloaded the KDE3 (optimized) RPMS from
 www.pclinuxonline.com (texstar) for 8.2
 
 Then I did the following (outside X in a console screen cntl-alt-F1)
 
 In my home directory:  $mv .kde .kde_old
 then su to root and from the kde3 directory do the following:
 
 rpm -Uvh lib*
 rpm -Uvh arts*
 rpm -Uvh kde*
 
 If you have the kdegraphics3 package, then remove the gphoto2 (rpm -e
 gphoto2)
 
 After the install I started KDE3 and ran menudrake from the control
 center to recreate the menus under KDE.  I also installed the
 mosfet-liquid theme (which is awesome!)
 
 Everything worked beautifully (including sound) and I think KDE3 is much
 faster and cooler  . .
 
 I did this on three different machines so far without consequence!
 
 Good luck!
 
 R.Fox
 
 
 On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 16:29, Joe Simon wrote:
   Just installed Mandrake's KDE3 packages.  This must be the worst yet!
  
   1) No menu's.
   2) Installed in /opt rather than /usr (KDE2 is in /usr).  The packages 
 are
   not relocatable.  What if someone does not have fs /opt or enough space 
 on /
   ?
   3) ksplash seg faults just right after login.
   4) Many other seg faults.
  
   Is this just a Mandrake problem or KDE problem?
  
   How can kde.org say the following on their web site:
  
   On April 3rd 2002, the KDE Project released KDE 3.0, the 
 Third-Generation
   of the Leading Desktop for Linux/UNIX, Offering Enterprises, 
 Governments,
   Schools, and Businesses an Outstanding Free and Open Desktop Solution. 
  
   Can you imagine students in grade 7-9 getting all these seg faults and 
 not
   having any menu's?
  
   I am disappointed!
  
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[Cooker] Squiguard setup?

2002-04-04 Thread Brook Humphrey

I would usually like to think I'm not completely stupid but how do I setup 
squidguard? I manually set most of it up but I get cannot access 
/cgi-bin/squidguard.cgi on this server.
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Re: [Cooker] BUG report for Netstat

2002-04-04 Thread Saint-Michel Laurent

Le Jeudi 4 Avril 2002 16:33, vous avez écrit :
   strange, i cannot reproduce it despite net-tools hasn't be rebuilded
   since january.
I had the same problem with Mdk 8.1  (I j've ust tried on the same computer). 

The strace outup is not helpfull maybe it is only a hardware problem, but  
when I do a loop it is working properly (1hour testing !!). So I am confused. 
I will try tomorrow.

What kind of info do you need ?

BR
Laurent

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Re: [Cooker] mandrake kde3 for 8.2 is a mess !

2002-04-04 Thread Jun Liu

please tell us how you did that? :)

I am quite curious

/Jun
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: 
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Re: [Cooker] Running cooker, good or bad?

2002-04-04 Thread Olivier Thauvin

Le Jeudi 4 Avril 2002 21:00, Warly a écrit :
 Michael Andreen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  So what's recommended? Running a stable release and compiling the latest
  software/ using a few cooker packages in the stable release or running a
  pure cooker system?

 Let's be a man.

 Let's live the hard way.

 Use cook
But it is clear that cooker it isn't a stable system to make a really secure 
server. I use my firewall with strict iptables to compile my package, I try 
to update the minimum of package to keep my system stable. When I need to 
test on a real cooker, I have an autoinstall network process, in 1 hours I 
have a real cooker to compile on an other computer.

I have a question about the new RPM (v 4.2).
Is the cooker RPM need to build cooker package and is it compatible with Mdk 
8.0, 8.1 and 8.2 ?

Thanks.

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Re: [Cooker] Running cooker, good or bad?

2002-04-04 Thread Murray J. Root

On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 20:15:34 +0200 Michael Andreen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I posted this as reply to another thread, but looks like the discussion in 
 that thread is over and noone is planning an answer, so here it is now, but 
 not as a reply.
 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 On Wednesday 03 April 2002 10.29, Laurent Montel wrote:
  Perhaps you don't know but cooker is DIFFERENT from 8.2 !
 
 When this is up.. It's been said that it's dangerous to run cooker, but how 
 dangerous is it really?
 
 I've been idling on this mailinglist for a few months now and I can't see 
 that it's more dangerous than always compiling and running the latest release 
 of everything (which I tend to be doing after a while, or stealing a cooker 
 package once in a while and get it into the stable dist), actually it seems 
 less dangerous since you mdk guys are more experianced and follows the 
 development of your packages better than me (I guess).
 
 So what's recommended? Running a stable release and compiling the latest 
 software/ using a few cooker packages in the stable release or running a pure 
 cooker system?
 
 Michael Andreen
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 

I run cooker all the time. On a few occasions I've spent 2-3 hours rebuilding a 
box cause of  it. I wouldn't suggest using cooker for anything that needs to be 
available. Using packages from cooker can be just as bad (search archives for
 libpng :) For a serious box and reliability - use a release version and let it get 
out of date except for packages where you NEED the newer features/fixes.

-- 
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Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS

2002-04-04 Thread tester

On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 05:29, Joe Simon wrote:
 Just installed Mandrake's KDE3 packages.  This must be the worst yet!
 
 1) No menu's.
 2) Installed in /opt rather than /usr (KDE2 is in /usr).  The packages are 
 not relocatable.  What if someone does not have fs /opt or enough space on / 
 ?
 3) ksplash seg faults just right after login.
 4) Many other seg faults.
 
 Is this just a Mandrake problem or KDE problem?
 
 How can kde.org say the following on their web site:
 
 On April 3rd 2002, the KDE Project released KDE 3.0, the Third-Generation 
 of the Leading Desktop for Linux/UNIX, Offering Enterprises, Governments, 
 Schools, and Businesses an Outstanding Free and Open Desktop Solution. 
 
 Can you imagine students in grade 7-9 getting all these seg faults and not 
 having any menu's?
 
 I am disappointed!
 
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Well, /usr is for software integral to the system, /opt is for add-on
software according to FHS 2.2.  KDE2.2.2 is part of the system, and KDE3
is regarded as an experimental add-on at this time. 

If you don't have enough room to make an /opt in /, then 

mkdir -p /usr/opt
ln -s /usr/opt /opt

It isn't yet ready for newbie time by a long shot, but you know the
clamor when we delay these releases.

Turn up your messaging to warning level to catch the KDE warnings and
you will get a clue to the segfaults--most are in reference to opening
sockets.  Drop your security level to 2 with

msec 2

and the most of the crashes disappear.  Perhaps the KDE team was
concerned with desktop and not thinking of settable security or perhaps
they decided the distros should make the permissions available (which is
going to take some distro-centric engineering)

Sound may work on your computer without the sound server in KDE3
functioning at all.  There is little new in this.  The linux kernel was
not really designed for sound, and the problems multiply from that.

Civileme






Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS

2002-04-04 Thread SI Reasoning

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On Thursday 04 April 2002 5:23 pm, tester wrote:
 On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 05:29, Joe Simon wrote:
  Just installed Mandrake's KDE3 packages.  This must be the worst yet!
 
I got the ones from texstar via pclinuxonline.com for 8.2 and they are much 
better than the ones from kde.
  1) No menu's.
menudrake can fix this problem, just open as root and click save. I also had 
to modify the menu style to all applications menu (also called Mandrake 
menu). This can be done within menudrake under the text menu at the top... 
Action/Modify Menu Style

  2) Installed in /opt rather than /usr (KDE2 is in /usr).  The packages
  are not relocatable.  What if someone does not have fs /opt or enough
  space on / ?
I like this, I think more of the larger packages should be installed here 
personally. It is no big deal to create a link to there or a new /opt 
partition if you have the space. I think it threw us off a bit having it in 
/opt since we had no reason to prepare for this when initially setting up our 
hard drive partitions.
  3) ksplash seg faults just right after login.
this went away with texstar's rpms. 

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Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS

2002-04-04 Thread Maks Orlovich

On Thursday 04 April 2002 06:43 pm, you wrote:
 On Thursday 04 April 2002 5:23 pm, tester wrote:
  On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 05:29, Joe Simon wrote:
   Just installed Mandrake's KDE3 packages.  This must be the worst yet!

 I got the ones from texstar via pclinuxonline.com for 8.2 and they are much
 better than the ones from kde.

KDE Doesn't ship any packages.

   3) ksplash seg faults just right after login.

 this went away with texstar's rpms.

Qt bug...





Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS

2002-04-04 Thread Timothy R. Butler

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Hi,
 I got the ones from texstar via pclinuxonline.com for 8.2 and they are much
 better than the ones from kde.

  Yes, I found the same thing. Apparently Mandrake missed a few problems when 
they submitted the packages to the KDE team (KDE does not build the binary 
packages).

  -Tim

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[Cooker] Question? how to correct No user write to /dev/floppy on msec 3

2002-04-04 Thread Salane King

How do i write to floppy on standard security level? Is that a security risk 
or something else. I can't change permissions on /dev/floppy which is a link 
to /dev/floppy/0 and can't change permissions on /mnt floppy even as root.
-- 
And it's my opinion, and that's only my opinion, you are a lunatic.  Just
because there are a few hunderd other people sharing your lunacy with you
does not make you any saner.  Doomed, eh?
-- Oleg Kiselev,[EMAIL PROTECTED]





Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS

2002-04-04 Thread Leon Brooks

On Friday 05 April 2002 08:23 am, Maks Orlovich wrote:
 On Thursday 04 April 2002 06:43 pm, you wrote:
 On Thursday 04 April 2002 5:23 pm, tester wrote:
 On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 05:29, Joe Simon wrote:
 Just installed Mandrake's KDE3 packages.  This must be the worst yet!

 I got the ones from texstar via pclinuxonline.com for 8.2 and they are
 much better than the ones from kde.

 KDE Doesn't ship any packages.

They do make packages available on their mirrors, e.g. 
http://www.planetmirror.com/pub/kde/stable/3.0/Mandrake/8.2/RPMS/i586/ which 
AFAIK are actually built by Mandrake.

Cheers; Leon




Re:[Cooker] Question? how to correct No user write to /dev/floppy on msec 3

2002-04-04 Thread clayandwater

yeah, i'm having errors writing to pretty much any folders outside of my Home dir...

i also cannot mnt cdrom, cdrom2, floppy, etc...

i'm using Linux Mandrake 8.2 non-beta





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[Cooker] konqueror3 loses scrollbar

2002-04-04 Thread SI Reasoning

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Using both mdk's and texstar's kde3 rpm's on 8.2, I have noticed that 
konqueror will occassionally lose its right scrollbar, esp if font size is 
larger than default. It can be regained by maximizing konqueror then when 
unmax it will have the scrollbar (for a while).
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Re:[Cooker] KDE3 no sound on startup bug back again

2002-04-04 Thread clayandwater

heh, so stick to kde2.2   =-P





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Re:[Cooker] KDE3 no sound on startup bug back again

2002-04-04 Thread Jason Jesso

I need the new Kmail that supports Auth SMTP since my ISP uses that.  Plus 
Konq is much faster.

So I won't go back to kde 2.2.2.

I didn't give up before 8.2 and I got it fixed in time for LM8.2 final.

I'll get it fixed again.

Thanks

On April 4, 2002 08:39 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 heh, so stick to kde2.2   =-P




 
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[Cooker] KDE3 no sound on startup bug back again

2002-04-04 Thread Jason Jesso

In the LM8.2 beta's I complained about no sound in KDE2.2.2 on startup.  They 
fixed it.  I was happy.

Now with KDE3 there is no sounds on startup again.  I have 

Vendor: Ensoniq

Model: 5880 AudioPCI

Kernel Module: es1371

Bus Type: PCI

The logout sound works, but the startup sound does not work.  

Yes I have all the sound checked off in the control panel and start sound 
server and volumes turned up.




[Cooker] Segfault in Mozilla (and my resolution)

2002-04-04 Thread Jose



Ever since I upgraded to ver 8.2 on my desktop and laptop, Mozilla
segfaulted.  After trying many different things I finally troubleshoot
it to libsafe, I updated libsafe to cooker ver. 2.0.13-1mdk

Jose





[Cooker] gimpprint-4.2.0-24mdk

2002-04-04 Thread Marc Lijour

I tested this new package with not much success with my Canon S400.

The width is still twice the size it should have.

gimpprint-4.2.0-24mdk




[Cooker] KDE3 KDM

2002-04-04 Thread Jeremy Salch

Does anyone know how to make the system use KDE3's KDM  instead of having to 
have kde2 installed to use just kdm..   when i uninstall kdebase for kde2  
kdm disappears and i can't seem to make it take kde3's kdm*shrugs*   i 
don't konw   things are very strange





Re: [Cooker] KDE3 KDM

2002-04-04 Thread Lonnie Borntreger

You can do it with a little hacking.

As root, go to /etc/X11, edit the prefdm file, look near the end where
it execs the preferred dm and add this line right before it.

exec /opt/kde3/bin/kdm $* /dev/null 21

Then you need to create a fndSession file for kde3 to make so that the
KDE3 kdm knows what sessions you have.  I've attached mine.  Install it
as /usr/sbin/fndSession3

Then do (still as root):
$ init 3
$ /usr/sbin/fndSession3
$ init 5

That's what I did and it works like a charm of course fndSession3
may use something that comes with KDE2 (I still have both installed). 
If it can't find anything, let me know and I'll send that too.

On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 00:01, Jeremy Salch wrote:
Does anyone know how to make the system use KDE3's KDM  instead of having to 
have kde2 installed to use just kdm..   when i uninstall kdebase for kde2  
kdm disappears and i can't seem to make it take kde3's kdm*shrugs*   i 
don't konw   things are very strange

-- 
TTFN,
Lonnie Borntreger


#!/bin/sh
# fndSession (c) MandrakeSoft, Chmouel Boudjnah [EMAIL PROTECTED]
## FindSession for kdm and gdm.

[ -x /usr/sbin/chksession ] || {
echo I can't find /usr/sbin/chksession
echo check your installation
exit 1
}

if [ -e /opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc ];then
LIST=`/usr/sbin/chksession -k` perl -pi -e 's|^SessionTypes=.*|$ENV{LIST}|'\
/opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc
fi



[Cooker] KDE3 and KDM - strange behaviour

2002-04-04 Thread Robert Fox

I have the KDE3 working just fine on several machines now.

One minor annoyance is - under the KDE3 control panel - System - Login
manager - I tried to change the KDM settings (using the admin mode)

The changes are recorded without problem - but when I restart the
session and/or X - the old settings are still there.  The changes don't
appear to stick.  I've also seen others complaining about this for
KDM/GDM under plain 8.2

Anyone else experiencing this?

Thx,
R.Fox







Re: Problem burning ISO image on PC and read from mac

2002-04-04 Thread Eduardo Kushima

Sorry, the machine is a powerbook G3 series 266MHz, 96MB RAM walstreet II

Thank's!

- Original Message -
From: Stew Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: Problem burning ISO image on PC and read from mac



 On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Eduardo Kushima wrote:

  I downloaded mandrake 8.2beta2 and burned it on my pc using nero and
  blindwrite, checked the iso and it was hybrid, 2048b/sector, everything
ok I
  think, but mac can't boot from this cd, but can read it normally.
 
  Some suggestions?
 

 You don't say what kind of Mac, but only NewWorld machines can boot from
 the CD.

 Stew Benedict

 --
 MandrakeSoft
 PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/









Re: Mac OS gives boot problems

2002-04-04 Thread Stew Benedict


On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Tom Hutchinson wrote:

 Hi   right now i have Mac OS X and 9 on one partition and Mandrake 8.2b2 
 also installedit works fine except when i tell Mac OS to switch to 
 boot into the other version(ie in OS X say to boot into OS 9 next time) 
 yaboot doesn't come up just booting into mac os is ok but when i 
 switch between the two it makes the computer boot directly into Mac OS 
 so i have to do setenv boot-device hd:9,\\tbxi (which makes things fine 
 again)   are you there any apps for MacOS that will let me switch which 
 ide like to boot into safely? is there a yaboot entry i can make 
 to manually saw to boot into OS 9(or X)   then i could just leave macos 
 always set on one but when i wanted to boot to the other just select it 
 in yaboot?

As far as I know, it only works that way if they are on seperate
partitions.  I haven't used OSX myself. Have you tried the method of
holding down Option at boot and see if OS9 and OSX and Linux are
offered?

Stew Benedict

-- 
MandrakeSoft
PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/





Apache+mod_ssl

2002-04-04 Thread Ales Golob

Hi

I have a problem with apache and mod_ssl

If i try to start apache with mod_ssl, it just dies, in the log files it
says it started ok, but there is no process running.
I'm using mdk 8.2ppc beta2 on a Server G4.

re Ales Golob





Re: Mac OS gives boot problems

2002-04-04 Thread Colin Ward

On 4/4/02 9:41 AM, Tom Hutchinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I realize that i can make a partition for os 9 and X and it will be fine
 but i dont use 9 much so i dont like wasting space with a big partition
 for it(plus it just takes away soem flexibility)
 -Tom Hutchinson

It's probably better to have a separate partition for each. I have three
partitions and the OS9 one is only 1gig, OS9 doesn't really need much space.
In fact a basic install is only around 3-400MB. This is how I have my ibook
(dual usb 500, 384MB, 10GB, CDRW)
OS9 =1GB
OSX =5GB
Mandrake-linux=4GIG
This works perfectly for me.
Colin





graphical install insight- MacOS influence on Linux

2002-04-04 Thread Stew Benedict


This may be of interest:

I generally run everything at the highest resolution possible, to get more
stuff on the screen at once.  The other day I was collecting some
screenshots for Phil in MacOS, and backed down the resolution on the iMac
to 800x600, and left it that way when I shut down.  Today when I went ot
do an install, the graphical install had the weird half-overlap effect
some folks have described.  It was usable, until I got to partitioning,
and then I got too worried trying to select my /boot that I was indeed
getting the right partition.  I tried various video= options, with no
improvement, before I remembered making that change in MacOS a couple of
days ago.  I went back to MacOS and put it back to 1024x768, rebooted into
the installer and things were fine again.

HTH,
Stew Benedict

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Re: Mac OS gives boot problems

2002-04-04 Thread Tom Hutchinson


 As far as I know, it only works that way if they are on seperate
 partitions.  I haven't used OSX myself. Have you tried the method of
 holding down Option at boot and see if OS9 and OSX and Linux are
 offered?

 Stew Benedict
Yes - Holding option lets me choose between the current select MacOS and 
Linux - if i choose linux it takes me to yaboot





Re: Problem burning ISO image on PC and read from mac

2002-04-04 Thread Stew Benedict


On 4 Apr 2002, Luis M wrote:

 On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 06:03, Phil Lavigna wrote:
  
 
Using BootX to install 8.2 PPC:
  
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/temp/tutorialsPPC/Install/pages/install5B.html
 
 This first link doesn't show about increasing the RAM disk size ...
 I had problems with the computer not being able to load the image, then
 I read the README (usually after having problems we peak at the README
 and all other stuff in the doc directory :-) ) and I realize I had to
 increase this from 8MB to whatever the number was ( in my case I had
 memory so I just put 32768 and that did it ).
 

If you use the Applescript wrapper, you don't need to change the ramdisk
size, note the ramdisk_size=34000 in the kernel arguments.  BootX does
not save that setting, so this was my workaround.

Stew Benedict

-- 
MandrakeSoft
PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/





Re: KDM and ATI Rage 128

2002-04-04 Thread Peter R. Wood

 https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/~baudens/ppc/



I installed these packages on my PowerBook Pismo with an ATI Rage Mobility
128, commented the DRI modules back into my XF86Config-4, and everything
works beautifully now. Tried the OpenGL xscreensaver modules - they run as
smooth as silk with hardware acceleration!  Amazing... I haven't tried
OpenGL on here for some time, so maybe it's been good for a while, but this
is the best I've seen it. :-)

Peter





Re: Problem burning ISO image on PC and read from mac

2002-04-04 Thread Luis M

:-) but if you don't use the AppleScript (in my case the applescript
kept giving me a strange error of not being able to load something, and
since this install of MacOS was not a full install, I didn't bother
about fixing it).
I just wanted to point out that the instructions online for the link
mentioned, show the number of the ram disk size to be 8mb which will
cause the installer to go bezerk.

for other linux distros (ppc) this is fine, but Mandrake ...it's
different ;-)


On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 16:14, Stew Benedict wrote:
 
 On 4 Apr 2002, Luis M wrote:
 
  On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 06:03, Phil Lavigna wrote:
   
  
 Using BootX to install 8.2 PPC:
   
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/temp/tutorialsPPC/Install/pages/install5B.html
  
  This first link doesn't show about increasing the RAM disk size ...
  I had problems with the computer not being able to load the image, then
  I read the README (usually after having problems we peak at the README
  and all other stuff in the doc directory :-) ) and I realize I had to
  increase this from 8MB to whatever the number was ( in my case I had
  memory so I just put 32768 and that did it ).
  
 
 If you use the Applescript wrapper, you don't need to change the ramdisk
 size, note the ramdisk_size=34000 in the kernel arguments.  BootX does
 not save that setting, so this was my workaround.
 
 Stew Benedict
 
 -- 
 MandrakeSoft  
 PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
 
-- 
)(- 
 Luis Mondesi 
 System Administrator/Web developer 
 LatinoMixed.com 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

The trouble with you
Is the trouble with me.
Got two good eyes
But we still don't see.
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Re: KDM and ATI Rage 128

2002-04-04 Thread Colin Ward

Peter R. Wood wrote:
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/~baudens/ppc/



 
 I installed these packages on my PowerBook Pismo with an ATI Rage Mobility
 128, commented the DRI modules back into my XF86Config-4, and everything
 works beautifully now. Tried the OpenGL xscreensaver modules - they run as
 smooth as silk with hardware acceleration!  Amazing... I haven't tried
 OpenGL on here for some time, so maybe it's been good for a while, but this
 is the best I've seen it. :-)
 
 Peter
 
 
 
 

Yes, i can say the same. I can still only get 16bit color though (ibook2 
500). I must say though that the disply is still very nice and crisp and 
DRI seems to be working very well.
Colin





Unable to eject CDROM... and why two zip devices....

2002-04-04 Thread James M. White

I am a Linux newbie, but have installed on (perhaps) four machines. 
Here's my current.

PM G4/733 Quick
ATI radeon 7500 32M
hda = IBM 60gig
hdb = WD 20 gig   Linux installed in 4 gig partition at the end of 
this drive
logitech wheel mouse
SCSI Zip 100 drive
Internal CD-RW
Apple 1705 multiscan monitor
Epson Color SW 740 printer

How do I open my CDROM drawer ?

It won't open when I press the 'eject' button on my keyboard.
It won't open when I click the 'eject' button of the CD  player application
It won't open when I right click on the CDROM deskop icon and then left 
click on the 'Eject' option.

The device is NOT mounted and evidenced by 

[root@localhost etc]# umount /mnt/cdrom
umount: /mnt/cdrom: not mounted

Here's my /etc/fstab file..


[root@localhost etc]# cat fstab
/dev/hdb4 / ext2 noatime 1 1
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
/dev/hdb6 /home ext2 noatime 1 2
/mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount 
dev=/dev/scd0,fs=iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0
/mnt/zip /mnt/zip supermount 
dev=/dev/sda,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0
/mnt/zip2 /mnt/zip2 supermount 
dev=/dev/sda4,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0 0
/dev/hdb5 swap swap defaults 0 0


Also why two zip devices? Not sure how that may have happened? I 
can't seem to mount either... perhaps because disks were formatted on 
Mac OS8.

[root@localhost etc]# mount /mnt/zip
[root@localhost etc]# cd /mnt/zip
bash: cd: /mnt/zip: Input/output error

Thanks for any help provided. In general the 8.2 beta install went 
fine. Of course, Gnome control panel is fubar, but that has been 
reported earlier. I needed to fuss around to get 1024*768 resolution 
configured... thought my monitor specs clearly indicate it's within 
spec. CUPS did not, initially, install correctly.  Had some problems 
defining my epson printer.. but most bugs have been worked out.

Jim









Re: Unable to eject CDROM... and why two zip devices....

2002-04-04 Thread Stew Benedict


On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, James M. White wrote:

 I am a Linux newbie, but have installed on (perhaps) four machines. 
 Here's my current.
 
 PM G4/733 Quick
 ATI radeon 7500 32M
 hda = IBM 60gig
 hdb = WD 20 gig   Linux installed in 4 gig partition at the end of 
 this drive
 logitech wheel mouse
 SCSI Zip 100 drive
 Internal CD-RW
 Apple 1705 multiscan monitor
 Epson Color SW 740 printer
 
 How do I open my CDROM drawer ?
 
 It won't open when I press the 'eject' button on my keyboard.
 It won't open when I click the 'eject' button of the CD  player application
 It won't open when I right click on the CDROM deskop icon and then left 
 click on the 'Eject' option.
 
 The device is NOT mounted and evidenced by 
 
 [root@localhost etc]# umount /mnt/cdrom
 umount: /mnt/cdrom: not mounted
 
 Here's my /etc/fstab file..
 
 
 [root@localhost etc]# cat fstab
 /dev/hdb4 / ext2 noatime 1 1
 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
 /dev/hdb6 /home ext2 noatime 1 2
 /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount 
 dev=/dev/scd0,fs=iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0

Is this the correct device for your CD?  You could also try the eject
command.  By default it tries /dev/cdrom, but you can specify device.
Also ikeyd may enable your keyboard eject button.  If you try from the
command line, you may find the drive is busy, and the GUI is masking that
from you.

 /mnt/zip /mnt/zip supermount 
 dev=/dev/sda,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0
 /mnt/zip2 /mnt/zip2 supermount 
 dev=/dev/sda4,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0
 
 Also why two zip devices? Not sure how that may have happened? I 
 can't seem to mount either... perhaps because disks were formatted on 
 Mac OS8.
 

x86 behavior.  /dev/sda4 is the common DOS formatted zip.  You'll need to
put a disk in and do: 

pdisk -l /dev/sda

and see what partition has the data (there may be some MacOS driver
partitions, like on your hard drive)

hopefully it's formatted hfs, then you can cahnge the fstab entry
appropriately, with hfs as the filesystem type, rather than vfat

The raw entry for the whole drive is also something I've seen on the
main cooker list, so we apparently just inherited that from x86 too.

Stew Benedict

-- 
MandrakeSoft
PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/





Re: Unable to eject CDROM... and why two zip devices....

2002-04-04 Thread Colin Ward

James M. White wrote:
 I am a Linux newbie, but have installed on (perhaps) four machines. 
 Here's my current.
 
 PM G4/733 Quick
 ATI radeon 7500 32M
 hda = IBM 60gig
 hdb = WD 20 gig   Linux installed in 4 gig partition at the end of 
 this drive
 logitech wheel mouse
 SCSI Zip 100 drive
 Internal CD-RW
 Apple 1705 multiscan monitor
 Epson Color SW 740 printer
 
 How do I open my CDROM drawer ?
 
 It won't open when I press the 'eject' button on my keyboard.
 It won't open when I click the 'eject' button of the CD  player application
 It won't open when I right click on the CDROM deskop icon and then left 
 click on the 'Eject' option.
 
 The device is NOT mounted and evidenced by 
 
 [root@localhost etc]# umount /mnt/cdrom
 umount: /mnt/cdrom: not mounted
 
 Here's my /etc/fstab file..
 
 
 [root@localhost etc]# cat fstab
 /dev/hdb4 / ext2 noatime 1 1
 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0
 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0
 /dev/hdb6 /home ext2 noatime 1 2
 /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount 
 dev=/dev/scd0,fs=iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0
 /mnt/zip /mnt/zip supermount 
 dev=/dev/sda,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0
 /mnt/zip2 /mnt/zip2 supermount 
 dev=/dev/sda4,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0
 none /proc proc defaults 0 0
 /dev/hdb5 swap swap defaults 0 0
 
 
 Also why two zip devices? Not sure how that may have happened? I 
 can't seem to mount either... perhaps because disks were formatted on 
 Mac OS8.
 
 [root@localhost etc]# mount /mnt/zip
 [root@localhost etc]# cd /mnt/zip
 bash: cd: /mnt/zip: Input/output error
 
 Thanks for any help provided. In general the 8.2 beta install went 
 fine. Of course, Gnome control panel is fubar, but that has been 
 reported earlier. I needed to fuss around to get 1024*768 resolution 
 configured... thought my monitor specs clearly indicate it's within 
 spec. CUPS did not, initially, install correctly.  Had some problems 
 defining my epson printer.. but most bugs have been worked out.
 
 Jim
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

I do this
[colin@colinsbox colin]$ cd /mnt/cdrom
[colin@colinsbox colin]$ eject

should work
Colin







Re: Unable to eject CDROM... and why two zip devices....

2002-04-04 Thread Stew Benedict


On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, James M. White wrote:

 spec. CUPS did not, initially, install correctly.  Had some problems 
 defining my epson printer.. but most bugs have been worked out.
 

Forgot this one.  I believe I've cleaned up the printer setup today.  I
don't have any USB printers, mine are networked, but they got setup OK. 

Stew Benedict

-- 
MandrakeSoft
PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/





We have spontaneus reboots

2002-04-04 Thread Miguel Beccari

I read some mails (in this ml) about spontaneus reboots.

I have 2 blue G3.
The first has got MDK8.0 (with 2.4.17 kernel), the secons has got 
MDK8.2beta1 (with kernel 2.4.18).

I registered on eitheir machines spontaneus reboots.

In the log I cannot find anything useful, but today morning I saw the 
monitor:

I read something like cua state=idle on the first line.
I couldn't read the second line because in few seconds the machine rebooted.

It was not a crash, but a regular reboot: something like going in init 6.


Any suggestion, now ?


Regards,

Miguel Beccari








Re: We have spontaneus reboots

2002-04-04 Thread Luis M

it could be a kernel panic.
when that happens to my ibook ( when I was using Mandrake's kernels as
you are now), my ibook kept panic'ing for no reason. I could not see
anything in the logs. It usually happened after being away from it for a
long time -- and usually whenever I mounted something, like a NFS drive
(I compile my kernel with NFS support builtin, not as a module, just in
case -- I use it all the time with the ibook). I thought it was some
'modprobe -r' (cleaning the modules) trying to unload a module or
something, and that causing the panic.
My solution for it was to get the source for the kernel ( got mine from
tuxppc.org because I could not get the kernel-source...rpm to compile in
my ibook... well, now I know that I should've used 'make mrpropper', but
anyway... )

after compiling the kernel using 2.4.19-pre4 my ibook has been rock
solid.

On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 03:00, Miguel Beccari wrote:
 I read some mails (in this ml) about spontaneus reboots.
 
 I have 2 blue G3.
 The first has got MDK8.0 (with 2.4.17 kernel), the secons has got 
 MDK8.2beta1 (with kernel 2.4.18).
 
 I registered on eitheir machines spontaneus reboots.
 
 In the log I cannot find anything useful, but today morning I saw the 
 monitor:
 
 I read something like cua state=idle on the first line.
 I couldn't read the second line because in few seconds the machine rebooted.
 
 It was not a crash, but a regular reboot: something like going in init 6.
 
 
 Any suggestion, now ?
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Miguel Beccari
 
 
 
 
-- 
)(- 
 Luis Mondesi 
 System Administrator/Web developer 
 LatinoMixed.com 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

FORTUNE'S RULES TO LIVE BY: #2
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Re: We have spontaneus reboots

2002-04-04 Thread Miguel Beccari

Luis M wrote:

it could be a kernel panic.
when that happens to my ibook ( when I was using Mandrake's kernels as
you are now), my ibook kept panic'ing for no reason. I could not see
anything in the logs. It usually happened after being away from it for a
long time -- 


Yes. My G3s are servers (file servers) and they reboots on nights or on 
Saturday and Sunday (I see this with 'uptime')

and usually whenever I mounted something, like a NFS drive
(I compile my kernel with NFS support builtin, not as a module, just in
case -- I use it all the time with the ibook). I thought it was some
'modprobe -r' (cleaning the modules) trying to unload a module or
something, and that causing the panic.

I want to try this.


My solution for it was to get the source for the kernel ( got mine from
tuxppc.org because I could not get the kernel-source...rpm to compile in
my ibook... well, now I know that I should've used 'make mrpropper', but
anyway... )

after compiling the kernel using 2.4.19-pre4 my ibook has been rock
solid.

OK. So I need just a new kernel.

tnx,

Miguel Beccari