Re: [Cooker] init scripts policy?

2002-05-28 Thread Ben Reser

On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 10:06:09AM +0400, Borsenkow Andrej wrote:
 Is there any policy related to init scripts? I see absolutely no reasons to
 define them as noreplace except for very special cases (like rc.local
 probably).

Lots of people edit them.  And they only don't get replaced when they've
been changed.  Otherwise it's not a problem.  So if you edit one and
upgrade it hopefully you're smart enough to look for the .rpmnew file.

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[Cooker] Nethack Falcon's eye 3.4.0 is out for some time

2002-05-28 Thread Michal Bukovjan

... and Cooker still contains version 3.3.1 :-)

Michal





[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] libjpeg-6b-23mdk 9.0 lib policy

2002-05-28 Thread Stefan van der Eijk

I'd like to make some remarks on the 9.0 lib policy thing as stated in 
the changelog

--=-=-=

* Thu May 16 2002 Yves Duret [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6b-23mdk

- 9.0 lib policy: added libjpeg62-static-devel


This is all very nice, moving 3 or so files into (yet) another package:

/usr/lib/libgif.a
/usr/lib/libungif.a
/usr/lib/libungif.la
/usr/share/doc/libungif4-static-devel-4.1.0

The consequence is that this breaks the BuildRequires of a number of 
packages. I'm wondering if it's worth it to make so many sub-packages...

See: 
http://eijk.homelinux.org/build/cooker/i586/problem/Epplets-0.5-8mdk.src.rpm.txt

/bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link gcc  -O3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -mcpu=pentiumpro 
-march=i586 -ffast-math -fno-strength-reduce  -I/usr/X11R6/include  -o libepplet.la 
-rpath /usr/lib -version-info 1:0:1 epplet.lo snprintf.lo  -L/usr/lib -lImlib -ljpeg 
-ltiff -ljpeg -lz -lungif -lpng -lz -lm -lXext -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lSM -lICE -lXext -lX11
grep: /usr/lib/libjpeg.la: No such file or directory
sed: can't read /usr/lib/libjpeg.la: No such file or directory
libtool: link: `/usr/lib/libjpeg.la' is not a valid libtool archive
make[2]: *** [libepplet.la] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/cooker/RPM/BUILD/Epplets-0.5/api'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/cooker/RPM/BUILD/Epplets-0.5'
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
error: Bad exit status from /home/cooker/tmp/rpm-tmp.94123 (%build)


I'm wondering who is going to fix the breakage of this change... A 
number of BuildRequires will need to be revisited, and judging from 
previous experiences, it ain't gonna happen :-/

In this case I've only found 2 packages that need to be revisited:

Epplets-0.5-8mdk.src.rpm
libfnlib0-0.5-2mdk.src.rpm

But if more packages are converted to this new policy then the list will 
grow...

Perhaps I don't see the benefits of this policy, maybe somebody can 
enlighten me?

with kind regards.

Stefan





[Cooker] Prolems with NTP

2002-05-28 Thread Stephan Richter

Hello everyone,

I am currently having some annoying problem with my time syncing. During the 
installation I chose the time server and wanted to run my machine on Eastern 
Standard Time. However, the server returns a time that is 16 hours behind 
(which is impossible).
Therefore I want to change the time server, but I cannot find the conf file or 
another administrative menu. 

What do I need to do?

Regards,
Stephan
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RE: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] libjpeg-6b-23mdk 9.0 lib policy

2002-05-28 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

 
 Perhaps I don't see the benefits of this policy, maybe somebody can
 enlighten me?
 

Well, the intention is to allow more than one version of library to be
installed while allowing you to explicitly select build (development)
version to use. Having both versioned and unversioned libraries in one
package would mean you can't have more than one version installed.

-andrej




Re: [Cooker] Prolems with NTP

2002-05-28 Thread Ben Reser

On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 07:18:21AM -0400, Stephan Richter wrote:
 I am currently having some annoying problem with my time syncing. During the 
 installation I chose the time server and wanted to run my machine on Eastern 
 Standard Time. However, the server returns a time that is 16 hours behind 
 (which is impossible).
 Therefore I want to change the time server, but I cannot find the conf file or 
Edit the server listed in:
/etc/ntp/step-tickers

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Re: [Cooker] Prolems with NTP

2002-05-28 Thread Stephan Richter

On Tuesday 28 May 2002 03:50, Ben Reser wrote:
 On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 07:18:21AM -0400, Stephan Richter wrote:
  I am currently having some annoying problem with my time syncing. During
  the installation I chose the time server and wanted to run my machine on
  Eastern Standard Time. However, the server returns a time that is 16
  hours behind (which is impossible).
  Therefore I want to change the time server, but I cannot find the conf
  file or

 Edit the server listed in:
 /etc/ntp/step-tickers

Thanks. Mmh, the file was empty! I added just an IP now. Is this correct or do 
I have to write: server IP?

Regards,
Stephan
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[Cooker] when installing the latest pwlib i have problems with the gnomemeetingrpm

2002-05-28 Thread Luis Alves

this is what i get

[root@finalpoint cooker]# rpm -Uvh pwlib1-1.2.19-1mdk.i586.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
pwlib1 = 1.2.17 is needed by gnomemeeting-0.86-0.1mdk


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RE: [Cooker] when installing the latest pwlib i have problems with the gnomemeeting rpm

2002-05-28 Thread Borsenkow Andrej


 
 this is what i get
 
 [root@finalpoint cooker]# rpm -Uvh pwlib1-1.2.19-1mdk.i586.rpm
 error: failed dependencies:
 pwlib1 = 1.2.17 is needed by gnomemeeting-0.86-0.1mdk
 

so what? 




[Cooker] problem running kcontrol with the kde 3.0.1

2002-05-28 Thread Luis Alves

When starting kcontrol I get this message and I'm not able to see the 
tree with all the KDE
configuration items. The tree is empty.

[lafa@finalpoint lafa]$ kcontrol
WARNING: No K menu group with X-KDE-BaseGroup=settings found ! 
Defaulting to Configuration/KDE/

Can someone help on me on this problem.

Some extra info:

[lafa@finalpoint lafa]$ rpm -qa|grep kde
kdev_htdig-1.1-2mdk
kdebase-nsplugins-3.0.1-10mdk
kdesdk-3.0.1-4mdk
kde-i18n-pt-3.0.1-1mdk
kdegames-3.0.1-3mdk
kdetoys-3.0.1-3mdk
kde-i18n-en_GB-3.0.1-1mdk
kdemultimedia-3.0.1-4mdk
kdenetwork-3.0.1-3mdk
kdeartwork-3.0.1-2mdk
kdepim-3.0.1-4mdk
kdelibs-3.0.1-7mdk
kdebase-3.0.1-10mdk
kdegraphics-3.0.1-5mdk
kdeutils-3.0.1-4mdk
kdemultimedia-aktion-3.0.1-4mdk
kde-i18n-pt_BR-3.0.1-1mdk
kdeadmin-3.0.1-3mdk
kdeedu-3.0.1-5mdk
kdeaddons-3.0.1-4mdk
[lafa@finalpoint lafa]$

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Re: [Cooker] IPv6 Patches

2002-05-28 Thread Warly

Terry Froy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi,

 I use IPv6 exclusively on my home network and have installed PLD Linux
 (http://www.pld.org.pl/) on one of my spare machines as it makes many
 claims about extensive IPv6 support.

 These claims are very much justified.  Applications such as wget,
 apache, lynx, proftpd and many others which are also found in Mandrake
 Linux all support connectivity to both native IPv6 and IPv4 hosts.

 I have successfully 'migrated' some of the IPv6-enabling patches used by
 PLD into the Mandrake SRPM packages and are using these packages in a
 production environment with good results.

Which SRPMS ?


 1:) Is Mandrakesoft interested in achieving a greater degree of IPv6
 compliance in both Mandrake Cooker and the next release version of
 Mandrake Linux ?

Yes, however IPv6 is not widely used yet.

 2:) Is anybody else working on this ? - if not, I would be happy to
 volunteer for the job :)

I checked more or less than IPv6 works with the initscript before each
release.

-- 
Warly




Re: [Cooker] sysconfig - libwrap refused connection...

2002-05-28 Thread Warly

guran [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi

 This is on a fresh installation, based on  kdebase-3.0.1-8mdk.i586.rpm.
 I gave up on personalizing my KDE3 as nothing could be reached = panel, mcc 
 c.

 In sysconfig I have thousands of:
 May 25 13:54:44 One09 xinetd[13089]: warning: can't get client address: 
 Transport endpoint is not connected
 May 25 13:54:44 One09 xinetd[13089]: libwrap refused connection to sgi_fam 
 from
 no address

what is the contents of your /etc/hosts.{allow,deny}?

-- 
Warly




Re: sylogd, klogd and syslog replacements (was: RE: [Cooker]imap-2001a-7mdk.src.rpm)

2002-05-28 Thread Warly

Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 You'd need to work with priorities then, the precedence of the default
 sysklogd
 without mysql would have to be higher, and only have it if the user
 requests
 it. There are other things thatyou might need to take care of as well
 such
 as rebooting from a bad system where you might not have a /usr or a
 network.
 

 there is one problem (syslog-ng hits this as well). Currently both klogd
 and syslogd are bundled in one package - sysklogd.  You may want to
 replace syslog - but you definitely do not want to replace klogd.

 So if sysklogd maintainer would agree to split sysklogd into two
 packages - klogd proper and syslogd proper it would make syslogd
 replacements much easier. And I would immediately release syslog-ng that
 I have been using here for some time now without a single problem
 (except stupid administrator :-) I mean, with proper config and
 logrotate configuration that currently conflicts with syslogd logrotate.

Well, I am not against, as long as this does not change the classic
syslog/klog program.

-- 
Warly




Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?

2002-05-28 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach Borsenkow Andrej am 2002-05-28 um 09:19:54 +0400 :
 You can count 1 here :-)

Yes, me too - but you and I are for sure not normal users, so I would
not say that we count.

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Re: [Cooker] init scripts policy?

2002-05-28 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Most init scripts I have seen are defined as noreplace. It has unfortunate
 effect - if init script is changed, it is not replaced. It means that in
 postinstall section rpm actually runs restart with _old_ script. Which is
 obviously wrong (exactly in case when script has changed).
 
 Is there any policy related to init scripts? I see absolutely no reasons to
 define them as noreplace except for very special cases (like rc.local
 probably).

Our policy (from mdk rpm howto) says:

To tell RPM that the file specified is a configuration file,
place a %config at the front of the file. That way, RPM will
upgrade the file, but save a copy of the old one on the local
hard drive. Most of the time, it is NOT the desired behaviour,
because you shall lose (temporarily) your precious configuration
in exchange of the default one which is obviously far poorer than
what you need. To address this issue, use %config(noreplace).

So, in general, when hesitating, we've been choosing
%config(noreplace). The rule of thumb being that %config should
be used when it's clearly needed.

The idea is that if the user ever changed an initscript, he sure
knows what he's doing, so we don't update it by default. If it
was not changed by the user (99.9% of the cases), RPM will update
the file anyway (be it %config or %config(noreplace) or
whatever).

 Is it possible to tell RPM to save old copy in *.rpmold on update?

Well a %config file gets .rpmsave for the old config file - and
a %config(noreplace) gets .rpmnew for the new config file.

-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] gabber is still broken

2002-05-28 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Luis Alves [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 just to remenber that gabber is still broken.

it will have to wait for fcrozat's return. reposting will be
useless, I think.

-- 
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Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?

2002-05-28 Thread Yves Duret

Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 So sprach Borsenkow Andrej am 2002-05-28 um 09:19:54 +0400 :
 You can count 1 here :-)

 Yes, me too - but you and I are for sure not normal users, so I would
 not say that we count.

the alternatives trick was not made for normal users.
normal users does not need a complete MTA. normal user use tool like evolution
or kmail...

so witch wich other mta do you use in collaboration with postfix ?
humm sendmail is still alternative aware AFAIK.. gonna make it. 
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[Cooker] typist error message on urpmi

2002-05-28 Thread nDiScReEt

I got this message when I ran urpmi for the typist package:

typist  ##
install-info: No such file or directory for /usr/share/info/typist.info.bz2
error: execution of %post scriptlet from typist-2.4-1mdk failed, exit status 1

I ran:
rpm -qa | grep typist

I get the following output:
typist-2.4-1mdk

The program runs but I thought that the error message was still important. I 
haven't tested a drill or a single leson yet but that would be soon.

-- 

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] man-1.5j-7mdk

2002-05-28 Thread Thierry Vignaud

Peter Ruskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  - remove useless cp

 What was wrong with cp?

it was useless to copy a file around without any reason.
small bandwith usage reduction make faster build overall.





Re: [Cooker] re : multimedia keyboards

2002-05-28 Thread Liam R. E. Quin

On Mon, 2002-05-27 at 11:17, Doug McClendon wrote:
 xbindkeys works great for me. 

How does this compare to xkeycaps?

Liam






Re: [Cooker] CD1 is missing from the MakeCD script

2002-05-28 Thread Stéphane Teletchéa

Le Lundi 27 Mai 2002 23:22, Murray J. Root a écrit :
 On Mon, 27 May 2002 18:29:23 +0200 Stéphane Teletchéa 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  In addition, i think boot.cat is missing in isolinux directory.
  Stef
 
  Le Lundi 27 Mai 2002 17:42, Stéphane Teletchéa a écrit :
   I did :
  
   /mnt/sources/i586/cooker/i586/misc/MakeCD -t /home/Sources/ -a
   /mnt/sources/i586/cooker/i586/
  
   To create the 5 isos needed for cooker.
  
   [root@pcumr70 sources]# ls -l /mnt/sources/i586/cooker/i586/
   total 116
  
   [root@pcumr70 Cooker]# ls -rtl
   total 2160644
   -rw-r--r--1 root root34816 mai 27 11:49 1-Cooker.iso
   -rw-r--r--1 root root 680394752 mai 27 12:03 2-Cooker.iso
   -rw-r--r--1 root root 679313408 mai 27 12:18 3-Cooker.iso
   -rw-r--r--1 root root 680558592 mai 27 12:34 4-Cooker.iso
   -rw-r--r--1 root root 172195840 mai 27 12:38 5-Cooker.iso
   [root@pcumr70 Cooker]# pwd
   /home/Sources/iso/Cooker
  
  
   But as you can see, all isos except the CD1 are created correctly.

 update mkisofs
 This issue was fixed a month or so ago.

 However - MakeCD now fails in other ways, but mkcd works fine.

Thank U, now it effectively runs well.
Concerning MakeCD, i didn't get any fail with the latest update i did 
(27/05/2002 at 18h00, West European Time).

Stef




[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdebase-3.0.1-13mdk

2002-05-28 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach Laurent MONTEL am 2002-05-28 um 10:00:44 +0200 :
 * Wed May 29 2002 Laurent MONTEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3.0.1-13mdk
 
 - Requires krootwarning, krozat

Why?

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Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?

2002-05-28 Thread Geoffrey Lee

On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 06:45:38PM -0700, Ben Reser wrote:
 On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 09:11:36AM +1000, Geoffrey Lee wrote:
  So proftpd is not compliant. It's up to the proftpd authors to make it 
  compliant with the LSB, but my opinion is that we should not try and introduce
  a file which doesn't contain anything(which does not have anything to do with
  proftpd certainly!) inside proftpd just to make it compliant.
 
 A better question is why is LSB trying to put requirements on an
 applications configration files.  /etc/ftpusers just won't work for
 proftpd becuase of the VirtualHost options.  Requiring that an ftp
 server use ftpusers is would be as dumb as saying all httpd servers have
 to use apache's format.  
 



You're right because every FTP might have its own config quirks (like
the missing /etc/ftpusers in proftpd).

Well, I don't really know! Stew might know a bit more though.

But that doesn't mean that I should just fix proftpd to make it compliant
by putting an empty file. So you'd really need to ask the LSB body to get
this addressed.


 To top all that off /etc/ftpusers is a poorly named file.
 /etc/ftpusers.deny would have been more intuitive.  But LSB is just
 adopting the design of a poorly designed ftp server (wu-ftpd) as the
 standard and that's really sad.  At any rate this isn't really an
 argument for this list.  But that's just my two cents on the matter.
 

My guess is historical reasons. :-(

-- Geoff.





[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdebase-3.0.1-13mdk

2002-05-28 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Tue, 28 May 2002 10:00:44 +0200 (CEST)
Laurent MONTEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --=-=-=
 Name: kdebase  Relocations: (not
 relocateable) Version : 3.0.1 Vendor:
 MandrakeSoft Release : 13mdk Build Date:
 Tue May 28 10:34:12 200 
 
 - Requires krootwarning, krozat
 
 
But neither package exist currently in cooker.

The only way to get them is to dl and build
mandrake_desk-8.3-2mdk.src.rpm.


Charles




Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdebase-3.0.1-13mdk

2002-05-28 Thread Laurent Montel

Le Tuesday 28 May 2002 14:15, Alexander Skwar a écrit :
 So sprach Laurent MONTEL am 2002-05-28 um 10:00:44 +0200 :
  * Wed May 29 2002 Laurent MONTEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3.0.1-13mdk
 
  - Requires krootwarning, krozat

 Why?

Because, krootwarning is use when we launch kde in root
and krozat is default screensaver for KDE/MDK

Regards.


 Alexander Skwar





[Cooker] update-menus core dumps

2002-05-28 Thread Alexander Skwar

update-menus from menu-2.1.5-101mdk core dumps.

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[Cooker] Missing buildrequire for mandrake_desk-8.3-2mdk

2002-05-28 Thread Denis Pelletier

Hello,

mandrake_desk-8.3-2mdk is mising a buildrequire:

[root@denis root]# rpm --rebuild /tmp/mandrake_desk-8.3-2mdk.src.rpm
Installing /tmp/mandrake_desk-8.3-2mdk.src.rpm
Executing(%prep): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.38276

and later on

test.c:7:25: glade/glade.h: No such file or directory

and the build fails. I guess that libglade2.0_0-devel should be added as a 
buildrequire.

Denis
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Re: [Cooker] Missing buildrequire for mandrake_desk-8.3-2mdk

2002-05-28 Thread David Walser

Maybe mandrake_desk should be split up. It doesn't
make sense that it has both KDE, GNOME, and noarch
(all mandrake_desk used to be) stuff in it.

--- Denis Pelletier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Hello,
 
 mandrake_desk-8.3-2mdk is mising a buildrequire:
 
 [root@denis root]# rpm --rebuild
 /tmp/mandrake_desk-8.3-2mdk.src.rpm
 Installing /tmp/mandrake_desk-8.3-2mdk.src.rpm
 Executing(%prep): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.38276
 
 and later on
 
 test.c:7:25: glade/glade.h: No such file or
 directory
 
 and the build fails. I guess that
 libglade2.0_0-devel should be added as a 
 buildrequire.
 
 Denis
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[Cooker] minicom and ppp broken for pcmcia modems

2002-05-28 Thread Steven J Mackenzie



This is a bug I spotted after installing MD8.2 on 
an old laptop. (Yes, I have seen the hotplug errata :) The same version of minicom and ppp are in cooker still, I 
think.

My laptop (HP Omnibook CS5500) hasPCMCIA 
bridgeCirrus Logic CL6729 (rev e2). The PCMCIA modem card is a Pace NB56 
56K card. I also have a Prolink 1436C 33.6K card, which behaves the same way. 
(These are both full hardware modems and work fine with kppp.)

My PCMCIA net card works fine, and the modems both 
work with kppp (ie, the hardware is fine!). I have configured my modem and ppp 
scriptsfrom a shellusing netconf.

My problem is that neither minicom, nor the 
ifup/usernetctl command line tools can communicate with the modem. As root, 
minicom starts, but the modem does not reply "OK" to the initialisation string, 
or to "AT".

ifup leaves this message in the logs:
May 13 08:47:09 waterloo ifup-ppp: pppd started for 
ppp0 on /dev/modem at 115200May 13 08:47:09 waterloo pppd[2375]: pppd 2.4.1 
started by root, uid 0May 13 08:47:11 waterloo pppd[2375]: Connect script 
failedMay 13 08:47:12 waterloo pppd[2375]: Exit.
Note that the script has "failed" before an attempt 
to dial a number.

If I create and install a new minicom RPM (rpm -ba 
minicom.spec) from the SRPM, minicom is still broken. If I just extract the raw 
minicom source from the SRPM and compile that (./configure, make), then then 
minicom works fine -- the Mandrake rpm build script is doing something that 
stops minicom from communicating with my PCMCIA modem.What would I need 
to recompile to get ifup working (I *need* this ...)? I tried ppp, but it didn't 
make any difference.

Steven


[Cooker] minicom and ppp broken for pcmcia modems

2002-05-28 Thread Steven J Mackenzie

[Reposted in plain text]

This is a bug I spotted after installing MD8.2 on an old laptop. (Yes, I
have seen the hotplug errata :)  The same version of minicom and ppp are in
cooker still, I think.

My laptop (HP Omnibook CS5500) has PCMCIA bridge Cirrus Logic CL6729 (rev
e2). The PCMCIA modem card is a Pace NB56 56K card. I also have a Prolink
1436C 33.6K card, which behaves the same way. (These are both full hardware
modems and work fine with kppp.)

My PCMCIA net card works fine, and the modems both work with kppp (ie, the
hardware is fine!). I have configured my modem and ppp scripts from a shell
using netconf.

My problem is that neither minicom, nor the ifup/usernetctl command line
tools can communicate with the modem. As root, minicom starts, but the modem
does not reply OK to the initialisation string, or to AT.

ifup leaves this message in the logs:
May 13 08:47:09 waterloo ifup-ppp: pppd started for ppp0 on /dev/modem at
115200
May 13 08:47:09 waterloo pppd[2375]: pppd 2.4.1 started by root, uid 0
May 13 08:47:11 waterloo pppd[2375]: Connect script failed
May 13 08:47:12 waterloo pppd[2375]: Exit.

Note that the script has failed before an attempt to dial a number.

If I create and install a new minicom RPM (rpm -ba minicom.spec) from the
SRPM, minicom is still broken. If I just extract the raw minicom source from
the SRPM and compile that (./configure, make), then then minicom works
fine -- the Mandrake rpm build script is doing something that stops minicom
from communicating with my PCMCIA modem.

What would I need to recompile to get ifup working (I *need* this ...)? I
tried ppp, but it didn't make any difference.

Steven





RE: [Cooker] minicom and ppp broken for pcmcia modems

2002-05-28 Thread Borsenkow Andrej


===š
My PCMCIA net card works fine, and the modems both work with kppp (ie,
the hardware is fine!). I have configured my modem and ppp scriptsšfrom
a shellšusing netconf.
š
My problem is that neither minicom, nor the ifup/usernetctl command line
tools can communicate with the modem. As root, minicom starts, but the
modem does not reply OK to the initialisation string, or to AT.
===
[...]
===
What would I need to recompile to get ifup working (I *need* this ...)?
I tried ppp, but it didn't make any difference.


First, do not post in HTML. Second, what strace shows?

strace -f -o /tmp/foo minicom

And what is in /tmp/foo?

-andrej 




Re: [Cooker] trouble to rebuild sudo src.rpm on sparc architecture

2002-05-28 Thread Oden Eriksson

On Tuesday 28 May 2002 00.35, Vincent Danen wrote:
 On Mon May 27, 2002 at 09:22:16AM +0200, Oden Eriksson wrote:
 In the next few weeks we will probably be putting out a package for
 the older distribs to update the rpm macros to include all of those
 available in 8.2 which will make things *much* easier for building
 packages.
   
Good idea. This will make life much easier for all of us.
  
   Yup... flepied gave me an rpm to do it, I just have to figure out the
   best way to implement it, as I don't want to put a bunch of
   BuildRequires: rpm-macros in the new specs for updates.
  
   But yes, it will seriously make life a *lot* easier.
 
  Yes, one immediate thing that comes to my mind is that it has to cope
  with conditional things like the %configure2.5x macro. For example it may
  be impossible to upgrade autoconf, libtool, etc. on a ML7.2 system, and
  in that case this macro needs to mean something else...

 Not necessarily.  In terms of updates, make sure you don't use
 %configure2.5 macro and just use %configure instead.  That way
 rebuilding a src rpm, as long as rpm-macros is installed, will be
 fine.

 In the case of rebuilding cooker for 7.2, well, it *is* cooker, after
 all.

I haven't tried this, but would it be possible to have macros in $HOME that 
overides the system macros?

If so there's no need to update rpm, just rootfiles?


-- 
Regards // Oden Eriksson




Re: [Cooker] OpeOffice - wow! I am impressed

2002-05-28 Thread Dmitry V. Levin

On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 06:07:56PM +0400, Borsenkow Andrej wrote:
   I finally got around to installing it - and WOW! terrific work. For the
   first time I could open MS Office document in Russian and it retained
   correct formatting and was usable!
  
  Do you want localization in Russian?
  
 
 I am not sure I understand you.
 
 I personally do not need or want localization. My preferred setup always
 was English Office + whatever is needed to allow spell
 checking/grammar/thesaurus in native language.
 
 But I would be very much interested to see localized version of OO of
 course. And it is a must if anybody intends to distribute it in Russia
 of course.

Already distributed:
ftp://ftp.altlinux.ru/pub/distributions/ALTLinux/OpenOffice/ (multiarch tarballs)
ftp://ftp.altlinux.ru/pub/distributions/ALTLinux/Sisyphus/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/openoffice-*
 (packages)

and mirrored at:
ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/altlinux/OpenOffice/
ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/altlinux/Sisyphus/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/openoffice-*


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Re: [Cooker] imap-2001a-7mdk.src.rpm

2002-05-28 Thread Oden Eriksson

On Tuesday 28 May 2002 00.33, Vincent Danen wrote:
 On Mon May 27, 2002 at 12:39:07AM -0700, Ben Reser wrote:
   Oops, I just found the issue, fixed the rpm and provided it..., maybe I
   shouldn't have...
 
  Not your fault Oden.  Really it isn't a problem.  I'm not convinced you
  and vdanen are talking about the same thing but I can't really go into
  details and explain it.  vdanen will get it cleared up though. :)

 Actually, it's kinda funny.  RedHat posted their updates which fix an
 RFC822 bug we were supposed to coordinate...  but they referenced this
 other buffer overflow but it doesn't look like they included the patch
 (Caldera did, however).

He he, that was funny...

 Anyways, I put in a new version that has the proper patch applied (the
 overflow patch was for a different bug, not referenced in their
 advisory, although they didn't look to fix the bug that they *did*
 reference).

 At any rate, since srpms are under public scrutiny, I assume the
 RFC822 bug is public now and ours will be available shortly.

Well, great! then the new imap will have two new fixes then?

-- 
Regards // Oden Eriksson




Re: [Cooker] kpersonalizer hangs

2002-05-28 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach Alexander Skwar am 2002-05-24 um 11:06:50 +0200 :
 Yesterday I setup a system using current Cooker.  In this, I also
 installed KDE and now updated to kde 3.0.1 from Cooker.

I've now upgraded to the latest and greatest.  kpersonalizer still
hangs.  Most of the time, it doesn't start up correctly.  I only see the
frame of the window with nothing on it.

But sometimes it comes up right; however after having finished the last
step, it displays the window again and the behaviour is like above.

Any ideas about what's going on here?

Alexander Skwar
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Re: [Cooker] update-menus core dumps

2002-05-28 Thread Gwenole Beauchesne

On Tue, 28 May 2002, Alexander Skwar wrote:

 update-menus from menu-2.1.5-101mdk core dumps.

You probably don't have libgcc3.1 installed...





Re: [Cooker] Missing buildrequire for mandrake_desk-8.3-2mdk

2002-05-28 Thread Denis Pelletier

On Tue, 28 May 2002, Denis Pelletier wrote:

{ Hello,
{ 
{ mandrake_desk-8.3-2mdk is mising a buildrequire:
{ 
{ [root@denis root]# rpm --rebuild /tmp/mandrake_desk-8.3-2mdk.src.rpm
{ Installing /tmp/mandrake_desk-8.3-2mdk.src.rpm
{ Executing(%prep): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.38276
{ 
{ and later on
{ 
{ test.c:7:25: glade/glade.h: No such file or directory
{ 
{ and the build fails. I guess that libglade2.0_0-devel should be added as a 
{ buildrequire.

The correct missing buildrequire is libglade0-devel.

Denis
___
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Étudiant au doctorat
sciences économiques, Université de Montréal
 an ordinary boy an ordinary name
 but ordinary's just not good enough today
 --Our Lady Peace, Superman's Dead





[Cooker] kicker hangs

2002-05-28 Thread Alexander Skwar

Guten Tag.

I've now managed to run kpersonalizer without errors and then started
kde from kdm.  Now kicker hangs.

Ideas?

Alexander Skwar
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[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] menu-2.1.5-101mdk

2002-05-28 Thread Brad Felmey

On Mon, 2002-05-27 at 10:15, Gwenole Beauchesne wrote:

 - Get all optimizations back except -fomit-frame-pointer in the event
   someone wants to rebuild this package with any gcc  3.1

Just as a thought, why not let the cooker packages be optimized, and do
something like --with-oldgcc that disables the offending optimization(s)
for those wanting to roll their own in a non-cooker environment?
-- 
Brad Felmey





Re: [Cooker] sysconfig - libwrap refused connection...

2002-05-28 Thread guran

On Tuesday 28 May 2002 11:08 am, Warly wrote:

 what is the contents of your /etc/hosts.{allow,deny}?

This is just for testing so, allow = empty and deny = ALL:ALL
Earlier I used BastilleChooser for this but it hangs in present shape.
I don't have the installation any more, I used two partitions to always have 
one Cooker that was functioning, but I have RedHat7.3 on that one now, and I 
just tried a new one based on kdebase-3.0.1-13mdk.i586.rpm and the DCOPserver 
did not come up at all so both KDE and Gnome failed.

regards
guran

-- 
Mandrake Linux 8.2 




[Cooker] new version of gnomemeeting

2002-05-28 Thread Cosmic Flo

  Hi,

a new version of gnomemeeting has came out (0.92.1).
http://www.gnomemeeting.org/

_
Téléchargez MSN Explorer gratuitement à l'adresse 
http://explorer.msn.fr/intl.asp.





[Cooker] final: 8.2 as server fail again..

2002-05-28 Thread tbsky

hi:
i test hp-tc4100 with red-hat 7.3 today.
it is okay after upgrade to 2.4.18-4.
(2.4.18-3 kernel panic after several hours. just like red-hat said.)

i also test the latest cooker 2.4.18-16
it crashed as usual.
so the problem seems at mandrake kernel.
hope 2.4.19 will fix it.

==tbsky
: 27:05 09:34 : Incident created
hi:
  our company buy a hp lc2000 server and try to install mdk 8.2 on it.
  it can not pass testing and finally we run mdk 8.1 at it.
  this time we buy a certified server - hp tc4100.
  the machine arrived today and it fail again.
  this machine comes with 2 cpu and 1g ram.
  to use the memory i must enable highmem(eg: enterprise kernel).
  and with highmem enabled we got crash under testing.
  i had report this before to:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  and i saw people at list has same problem. but nobody at mandrake
  answer these questions.

  i also wrote several times to

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  although mdk said that email list is not for supporting, but whom should
  i write if the hardware database is wrong??

  i'll use paid support tomorrow, but before that, i would like to post it
  last time for anyone who is interested..below is my experience with
  hp lc2000 last month. and now tc4100 kill me again.





Hello:
   i m glad that i got ur reply :) let me describe my problem
and testing procedure in details...i think the problem is
causing by kernel, since redhat 7.2 is fine... and i run
memtest86 to test memories, which are fine..

1.) OSB4 DMA bug. it will cause system hang if u leave the ide dma enabled,
and u try to read a scratched cd which the cdrom can not read well.
redhat 7.2 is fine with dma enabled.

2.) xwindow say mtrr can not use and leave messages below in the syslog:
mtrr: Serverworks LE detected. Write-combining disabled.
redhat 7.2 is fine.

3.) irq conflict in the linux boot message. at bios boot screen i saw
vga using irq 10, lan using irq 9. and cat /proc/pci give me the same
result. but boot message say device 00:04:00(lan) want irq 10, which
already has irq 9.
so i try to lock lan to irq 10 at bios. bios boot screen is fine,
vga using irq9, lan using irq 10, cat /proc/pci give me the same.
but boot message now tell me device 00:04:00 want irq 9, which already
has irq 10... :(

4.) unstable with kernel-enterprise. i test my system with ctcs that
comes with mandrake 8.2. and using ctcs default, so it will run
kernel making,memory testing (with memtest86),and disk testing
(with badblocks) simultaneously. the system will freeze about 4 hours.
the system didn't hang, just freeze, so no more new process. i can
switch virtual consoles. i login 3 virtual consoles before testing,
one run ctcs,one run top, and one stay at shell prompt.
and when freezing:
the ctcs clock is still ticking at console 1.
the top process is hang at console 2. looking at time at up-left
corner, i can know when the system froze.
i can type command at console 3, the shell prompt, but it will hang
after i hit enter if need a new process.

there is a clue but i don't understand. during testing of ctcs,
sometimes there is error below in the syslog:

kernel: Warning: dev (04:01) tty-count(5) != #fd'(4) in tty-open

the message appear about every 20-30 minutes. and after about 10
messages, the system froze.
redhat 7.2 with ctcs comes with MDK 8.2 pass the testing for 12
hours...

Regards,
tbsky



 Hello:
 i install mandrake 8.2 on a HP lc2000 u3 srever with 1GB ram and 2
 cpu,
 it is unstable with enterprise kernel. i found a link which is
 the same as my problem:

 http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernelm=101770689615279w=2

 i also try the kernel in cooker but the same.
 and when i start X under 8.2,
 i have no experience with serverworks chipset before.
 does serverworks support linux? should i prevent it in the future?

 Yes. ServerWorks chipsets are supported. I have about 20 Dell PE 2xx0
 (ServerWorks chipset based) servers, two cpus, mostly 1G RAM. All
 working fine, distrib kernel from mdk 8.1 and/or from mdk 8.2.
 One diffence: i use kernel-secure (it's based on kernel-enterprise).

 IMHO problem is motherboard/memmory not in chipset. All (two) my HP
 server are shit hardware, mandrake have healthy problems on it.

 Zdenek Mazanec
==







Re: [Cooker] final: 8.2 as server fail again..

2002-05-28 Thread St?phane Teletch?a

Have you tried kernel-secure, or an older kernel (for example the one 
provided with 8.0) ?

Try to disable DMA in /etc/sysconfig/harddisk* (as suggested by John Allen).

Stef

Le Mardi 28 Mai 2002 18:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a ?crit :
 hi:
 i test hp-tc4100 with red-hat 7.3 today.
 it is okay after upgrade to 2.4.18-4.
 (2.4.18-3 kernel panic after several hours. just like red-hat said.)

 i also test the latest cooker 2.4.18-16
 it crashed as usual.
 so the problem seems at mandrake kernel.
 hope 2.4.19 will fix it.

 ===
===tbsky: 27:05 09:34 : Incident created hi:
   our company buy a hp lc2000 server and try to install mdk 8.2 on it.
   it can not pass testing and finally we run mdk 8.1 at it.
   this time we buy a certified server - hp tc4100.
   the machine arrived today and it fail again.
   this machine comes with 2 cpu and 1g ram.
   to use the memory i must enable highmem(eg: enterprise kernel).
   and with highmem enabled we got crash under testing.
   i had report this before to:

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   and i saw people at list has same problem. but nobody at mandrake
   answer these questions.

   i also wrote several times to

   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

   although mdk said that email list is not for supporting, but whom should
   i write if the hardware database is wrong??

   i'll use paid support tomorrow, but before that, i would like to post it
   last time for anyone who is interested..below is my experience with
   hp lc2000 last month. and now tc4100 kill me again.

 ***
*
 ***
*
 ***
*

 Hello:
i m glad that i got ur reply :) let me describe my problem
 and testing procedure in details...i think the problem is
 causing by kernel, since redhat 7.2 is fine... and i run
 memtest86 to test memories, which are fine..

 1.) OSB4 DMA bug. it will cause system hang if u leave the ide dma enabled,
 and u try to read a scratched cd which the cdrom can not read well.
 redhat 7.2 is fine with dma enabled.

 2.) xwindow say mtrr can not use and leave messages below in the syslog:
 mtrr: Serverworks LE detected. Write-combining disabled.
 redhat 7.2 is fine.

 3.) irq conflict in the linux boot message. at bios boot screen i saw
 vga using irq 10, lan using irq 9. and cat /proc/pci give me the same
 result. but boot message say device 00:04:00(lan) want irq 10, which
 already has irq 9.
 so i try to lock lan to irq 10 at bios. bios boot screen is fine,
 vga using irq9, lan using irq 10, cat /proc/pci give me the same.
 but boot message now tell me device 00:04:00 want irq 9, which already
 has irq 10... :(

 4.) unstable with kernel-enterprise. i test my system with ctcs that
 comes with mandrake 8.2. and using ctcs default, so it will run
 kernel making,memory testing (with memtest86),and disk testing
 (with badblocks) simultaneously. the system will freeze about 4 hours.
 the system didn't hang, just freeze, so no more new process. i can
 switch virtual consoles. i login 3 virtual consoles before testing,
 one run ctcs,one run top, and one stay at shell prompt.
 and when freezing:
 the ctcs clock is still ticking at console 1.
 the top process is hang at console 2. looking at time at up-left
 corner, i can know when the system froze.
 i can type command at console 3, the shell prompt, but it will hang
 after i hit enter if need a new process.

 there is a clue but i don't understand. during testing of ctcs,
 sometimes there is error below in the syslog:

 kernel: Warning: dev (04:01) tty-count(5) != #fd'(4) in tty-open

 the message appear about every 20-30 minutes. and after about 10
 messages, the system froze.
 redhat 7.2 with ctcs comes with MDK 8.2 pass the testing for 12
 hours...

 Regards,
 tbsky

  Hello:
  i install mandrake 8.2 on a HP lc2000 u3 srever with 1GB ram and 2
  cpu,
  it is unstable with enterprise kernel. i found a link which is
  the same as my problem:
 
  http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-kernelm=101770689615279w=2
 
  i also try the kernel in cooker but the same.
  and when i start X under 8.2,
  i have no experience with serverworks chipset before.
  does serverworks support linux? should i prevent it in the future?
 
  Yes. ServerWorks chipsets are supported. I have about 20 Dell PE 2xx0
  (ServerWorks chipset based) servers, two cpus, mostly 1G RAM. All
  working fine, distrib kernel from mdk 8.1 and/or from mdk 8.2.
  One diffence: i use kernel-secure (it's based on kernel-enterprise).
 
  IMHO problem is motherboard/memmory not in chipset. All (two) my HP
  server are shit hardware, mandrake have healthy problems on it.
 

Re: [Cooker] kicker hangs

2002-05-28 Thread Brad Felmey

On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 09:54, Alexander Skwar wrote:

 I've now managed to run kpersonalizer without errors and then started
 kde from kdm.  Now kicker hangs.
 
 Ideas?

I got the same thing on a Matrox G450 dual-head. I had to roll back to
XFree86 4.1 from the 8.1 CDs to fix the problem. I posted to this list
about the X 4.2 dual-head failures, but got no response.
-- 
Brad Felmey





Re: [Cooker] New Pan

2002-05-28 Thread Brad Felmey

On Fri, 2002-05-24 at 03:52, Todd Lyons wrote:
 Brad Felmey wrote on Thu, May 23, 2002 at 01:47:18PM -0500 :
  May I respectfully request a new pan rpm? 0.11.93 was just released, and
  it contains a bugfix for multiparts. 
  
/home/bfelmey/rpm/tmp/pan-0.11.93-1mdk-buildroot/usr/bin/i586-mandrake-linux-gnu-pan
 
 Yeah, that's kind of stupid.  It seems to go away if you force it to run
 automake, but then that leads to another lib building error.
 
  Everything builds, I just can't get it to install or make RPMs. :(
 
 In your pan.spec file, make it look like this quick hack:
 
 
 %install
 [ -n $RPM_BUILD_ROOT -a $RPM_BUILD_ROOT != / ]  rm -rf $RPM_BUILD_ROOT
 %makeinstall_std
 mv $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/%{_bindir}/*-pan $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/%{_bindir}/pan
 
 All I did was add the mv command.  I wouldn't exactly call this
 production material though :-/  Do it as a quick hack to get the
 binary built and I guess someone will figure out why the Makefile.in
 insists on prepending that to it.  I checked and 0.11.92 has the exact
 same Makefile.in, so it doesn't quite make sense what's happening there.
 I haven't dug into it enough to know better.

Ugly or not, it worked. It was ugly enough that I spent more time on it,
though. g

I did a diff between 0.11.92 and 0.11.93, and there were some pretty
huge changes in the config process and files. Upshot is that if you
don't specify a blank --program-prefix, it automatically prepends the
binary with the guessed system type.

A somewhat cleaner fix was to append the blank argument in the pan.spec:

%configure2_5x --program-prefix=

This now -ba's cleanly to unpatched source.
-- 
Brad Felmey





[Cooker] New Pan 0.11.93 uploaded

2002-05-28 Thread Brad Felmey

According to the Mdk RPM HOWTO v1.1, I'm supposed to send mail to Lenny
and cooker when I send something up - is this still correct?

After figuring out the new configure process, I've built a new pan and
uploaded it to ftp.linux-mandrake.com/incoming. I've tested the SRPM and
installed  tested the rpm. It's clean source with a lightly tweaked
.spec from the 0.11.92 SRPM.

Also, has anyone seen Fred Crozat? He's MIA since May 14.
-- 
Brad Felmey





Re: [Cooker] Add BuildRequires for pan

2002-05-28 Thread Brad Felmey

On Fri, 2002-05-24 at 02:52, Todd Lyons wrote:

 pan wouldn't make it through ./configure until I installed
 libgtk+-x11-2.0_0-devel.  Appears it should be added as a BuildRequires.

I added it to the .spec for the one I just uploaded. I didn't do
anything so intelligent as to document it in the %changelog, though.
Come to think of it, there were a couple of things I didn't put in the
%changelog that should be there.

-2mdk on the way up, I guess. :-/
-- 
Brad Felmey





Re: [Cooker] New Pan 0.11.93 uploaded

2002-05-28 Thread Steve Fox

On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 12:26, Brad Felmey wrote:
 
 Also, has anyone seen Fred Crozat? He's MIA since May 14.

On vacation. He should be back in early June I believe. (He also hates
it when people CC him on the cooker list). I think everybody misses
Frederic :)

-- 

Steve Fox
IBM Linux Technology Center
http://www.ibm.com/linux/ltc
http://k-lug.org





[Cooker] php spec files (was: php doesn't work)

2002-05-28 Thread Steve Fox

On Fri, 2002-05-24 at 10:40, Steve Fox wrote:
 On Fri, 2002-05-24 at 06:19, Oden Eriksson wrote:
  
  Now, can we please get rid of all the php-EXTENSION.spec stuff and move it 
  into php.spec? This way the extensions will build safely and allways be in 
  sync. Could we at least have a vote about this?
  
  What say you fellow Cookers?
 
 It's a tough call. On one hand, it's nice to only have to update a
 single package if that extension was updated. On the other hand, if we
 get these version mismatches all the time, then it's more of a pain.
 
 If it is reasonable to keep them separate, that would be my preference.
 But I am not the poor soul who has to keep these in order :)

Please forgive whatever I was smoking when I wrote this last week. This
is a maintenance nightmare for poor Oden, et al. These generates files
are mostly a few k in size, so who cares if a fix in one requires to
build them all.

Please do yourself a favor and merge them.

-- 

Steve Fox
IBM Linux Technology Center
http://www.ibm.com/linux/ltc
http://k-lug.org





Re: [Cooker] New Pan 0.11.93 uploaded

2002-05-28 Thread Brad Felmey

On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 12:26, Brad Felmey wrote:

 After figuring out the new configure process, I've built a new pan and
 uploaded it to ftp.linux-mandrake.com/incoming. I've tested the SRPM and
 installed  tested the rpm. It's clean source with a lightly tweaked
 .spec from the 0.11.92 SRPM.

...and -2mdk, with the rest of -1mdk's changelog. sigh
-- 
Brad Felmey





Re: [Cooker] New Pan 0.11.93 uploaded

2002-05-28 Thread Brad Felmey

On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 12:48, Steve Fox wrote:

 (He also hates it when people CC him on the cooker list)

Ack! Thanks for letting me know - I'll keep that in mind.
-- 
Brad Felmey





Re: [Cooker] Sarts-1.0.1-9mdk: Wierd deps failure?

2002-05-28 Thread Charles A. Shirley


On Mon, 27 May 2002, Charles A Edwards wrote:

 On Mon, 27 May 2002 12:43:13 -0700 (PDT)
 Charles A. Shirley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  kdelibs-sound  2.2.2-29mdk conflicts with libpng3-1.2.1-8mdk
  [root@localhost RPMS]# rpm -qa | grep kdelibs-sound
  
  This seems very odd to me, is it unexpected only to me or have others
  seen the problem as well?
  
 I got the same error from arts using urpmi --auto-select.
 
 Being impatient I dled the libpng src.rpm.
 Changed the spec by # out the 'conflicts with kdelibs-sound 
 2.2.2-29mdk'
 and built.
 rpm -e --nodeps the current libpng3, and installed those I built.
 arts -9 then will installs without the libpng3 conflict.
 
 Charles

Thanks Charles,

but happily arts -10mdk build corrects the problem, and thanks to Laurent
for the happy new build! :)  Now, as finally it has reached the mirrors, 
time to see if I can make KDE go again! :^)

Charles (The other one...)






Re: [Cooker] php spec files (was: php doesn't work)

2002-05-28 Thread Oden Eriksson

On Tuesday 28 May 2002 19.51, Steve Fox wrote:
 On Fri, 2002-05-24 at 10:40, Steve Fox wrote:
  On Fri, 2002-05-24 at 06:19, Oden Eriksson wrote:
   Now, can we please get rid of all the php-EXTENSION.spec stuff and move
   it into php.spec? This way the extensions will build safely and allways
   be in sync. Could we at least have a vote about this?
  
   What say you fellow Cookers?
 
  It's a tough call. On one hand, it's nice to only have to update a
  single package if that extension was updated. On the other hand, if we
  get these version mismatches all the time, then it's more of a pain.
 
  If it is reasonable to keep them separate, that would be my preference.
  But I am not the poor soul who has to keep these in order :)

 Please forgive whatever I was smoking when I wrote this last week. This
 is a maintenance nightmare for poor Oden, et al. These generates files
 are mostly a few k in size, so who cares if a fix in one requires to
 build them all.

 Please do yourself a favor and merge them.

No, I think it was me who must have smoked something or ate something out of 
the ordinary when I wrote my post...

As someone else pointed out, with the current setup it's easy to rebuild the 
extensions whenever we have a new lib availible. For example if libxmlrpc is 
updated, just rebuild php-xmlrpc. I'm not going to maintain these forever, as 
my work is done. The splits and breakouts are done now, I just hope something 
didn't break in this process. The only thing that's left is to try and 
breakout openssl and pcre, but I wasn't able to last time I tried...

My goal was to have a php-snmp package, but I got sort of carried away and 
did some others too :-)

Chears.
-- 
Regards // Oden Eriksson




[Cooker] Timidity++ vs. kdemultimedia

2002-05-28 Thread Charles A. Shirley

When trying to install kdemultimedia-3.0.1-4mdk:

[root@localhost RPMS]# rpm -ivh kdemultimedia-3.0.1-4mdk.i586.rpm
Preparing...### [100%]
file /usr/bin/timidity from install of kdemultimedia-3.0.1-4mdk conflicts
with file from package TiMidity++-2.11.3-1mdk
[root@localhost RPMS]# rpm -e TiMidity++
error: removing these packages would break dependencies:
TiMidity++ is needed by defendguin-0.0.9-2mdk
[root@localhost RPMS]#

if I apply a little --force to the kdemultimedia install, however,
defendguin still runs just fine, though it is unaware of artsd, so to get
sound I must use soundwrapper or stop the artsd while running KDE.

-Charles

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 |  Sitting in his UNIX LAN  |  Charles A. Shirley  |
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[Cooker] interactive Perl Gtk question

2002-05-28 Thread Cosmic Flo

How to put xpm picture to an interactive vnew object ?
It's for a TV-out config tool.
Thanks



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Re: [Cooker] IPv6 Patches

2002-05-28 Thread Terry Froy

On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 10:02, Warly wrote:

  I have successfully 'migrated' some of the IPv6-enabling patches used by
  PLD into the Mandrake SRPM packages and are using these packages in a
  production environment with good results.
 
 Which SRPMS ?

wget, postfix, apache, rsync and squid - most of the IPv6 patches for
these applications can be found at ftp://ftp.kame.net/pub/kame/misc/

  1:) Is Mandrakesoft interested in achieving a greater degree of IPv6
  compliance in both Mandrake Cooker and the next release version of
  Mandrake Linux ?
 
 Yes, however IPv6 is not widely used yet.

True - but if applications can be patched for IPv6 support without
affecting their stability or functionality - surely this is something
which should be done now rather than later ?

  2:) Is anybody else working on this ? - if not, I would be happy to
  volunteer for the job :)
 
 I checked more or less than IPv6 works with the initscript before each
 release.

That wasn't what I meant.  I know that the IPv6 networking code is
compiled as a module and has worked on every release of Mandrake Linux
that I have ever tried it with.

My offer was to plough through the KAME patch repository and the PLD
patch repository, integrate those patches into the appropriate Cooker
SRPMS and extensively test those packages before submitting my changes
to the package maintainer where they can be further tested by other
Cooker users.

Regards,
Terry






Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] libjpeg-6b-23mdk 9.0 lib policy

2002-05-28 Thread Stefan van der Eijk



Perhaps I don't see the benefits of this policy, maybe somebody can
enlighten me?



Well, the intention is to allow more than one version of library to be
installed while allowing you to explicitly select build (development)
version to use. Having both versioned and unversioned libraries in one
package would mean you can't have more than one version installed.
  

I understand the benefits of the lib policy very well, let me rephrase 
my question:

What does lib policy version 9 provide over the previous one? What will 
splitting the -devel into -static-devel  -devel packages bring?

Stefan






Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?

2002-05-28 Thread Ben Reser

On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 10:12:55PM +1000, Geoffrey Lee wrote:
 But that doesn't mean that I should just fix proftpd to make it compliant
 by putting an empty file. So you'd really need to ask the LSB body to get
 this addressed.

Ohh I agree.  It's not our fault that proftpd isn't LSB compliant.

 My guess is historical reasons. :-(

Yeah well I realize that much...

-- 
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http://ben.reser.org

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mine history for lessons convenient to the present purpose.
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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdebase-3.0.1-13mdk

2002-05-28 Thread Olivier Thauvin

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

   * Wed May 29 2002 Laurent MONTEL [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3.0.1-13mdk
  
   - Requires krootwarning, krozat
 
  Why?

 Because, krootwarning is use when we launch kde in root
 and krozat is default screensaver for KDE/MDK

I can agree this but I have this problem:

[root@virgo devel olivier]# urpmi --auto --auto-select
installing 
/Mandrake/RPMS/libarts-devel-1.0.1-10mdk.i586.rpm 
/Mandrake/RPMS/mandrake_desk-8.3-2mdk.i586.rpm 
/Mandrake/RPMS/libarts-1.0.1-10mdk.i586.rpm 
/Mandrake/RPMS/kdebase-3.0.1-13mdk.i586.rpm
/Mandrake/RPMS/arts-1.0.1-10mdk.i586.rpm 
/Mandrake/RPMS/perl-DBI-1.23-1mdk.i586.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
krootwarning = 8.3-2mdk is needed by kdebase-3.0.1-13mdk
krozat = 8.3-2mdk is needed by kdebase-3.0.1-13mdk
Installation failed

[root@virgo devel olivier]# urpmi krozat
no package named krozat

[root@virgo devel olivier]# urpmi krootwarning
no package named krootwarning
[root@virgo devel olivier]#


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Re: sylogd, klogd and syslog replacements (was: RE: [Cooker] imap-2001a-7mdk.src.rpm)

2002-05-28 Thread Frederic Lepied

Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  btw do you know if there's anything that would be needed to change if
  syslog-ng were to become a real drop-in replacement for syslogd?

[...]

 
 4. Add syslog-ng support to msec.
 
 The reason for a split is, logrotate for syslogd and syslog-ng  refer to
 the same files which means logs are rotated twice. What I had in mind is
 to make syslog-ng conflict with syslogd. Alternative is (assuming
 syslog-ng is adopted) to just check which one is currently running and
 prime it. 
 
 Fredl, do you have any plans to add support for external modules? It
 would be ideal case - syslog-ng comes with own msec module to avoid
 rewriting it every time.

No I don't want to do that. I prefer to have a central point for all
security related stuff.
-- 
Fred - May the source be with you




Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] kdebase-3.0.1-13mdk

2002-05-28 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Tue, 28 May 2002 21:05:30 +0200
Olivier Thauvin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 [root@virgo devel olivier]# urpmi krozat
 no package named krozat
 
 [root@virgo devel olivier]# urpmi krootwarning
 no package named krootwarning
 
I reported same this morning.

I overcame by dling and building the mandrake_desk src.rpm and
installing rozat and krootwarning from it.


Charles




Re: [Cooker] kicker hangs

2002-05-28 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach Brad Felmey am 2002-05-28 um 10:31:07 -0500 :
 I got the same thing on a Matrox G450 dual-head. I had to roll back to
 XFree86 4.1 from the 8.1 CDs to fix the problem. I posted to this list
 about the X 4.2 dual-head failures, but got no response.

Ah.  Yes, I'm also using a Matrox G450 dual-head.  Do you also use
xinerama?  Are you also using the latest matrox drivers?

Alexander Skwar
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[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] aspell-0.33.7.1-4mdk

2002-05-28 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Tue, 28 May 2002 16:16:39 +0200 (CEST)
Gwenole Beauchesne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --=-=-=
 Name: aspell   Relocations: (not
 relocateable) Version : 0.33.7.1  Vendor:
 MandrakeSoft Release : 4mdk  Build Date:
 Wed May 22 03:45:03 2002
 
 
 - Automated rebuild with gcc 3.1-1mdk
 
Rebuild causes sylpheed-claws CVS to crash when either creating or
replying to email if spell-check is enabled.

sylpheed --debug

gtkspell.c:622:Pspell: removed all paths.
gtkspell.c:625:Pspell: added path /usr/share/pspell//.
gtkspell.c:653:Pspell: Language: en, spelling: (null), jargon: (null),
module: aspell
Segmentation fault
...
sylpheed -strace 

open(/etc/ld.so.cache, O_RDONLY)  = 14
fstat64(14, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=93283, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 93283, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 14, 0) = 0x4084f000
close(14)   = 0
open(/usr/lib/libpspell-impl.so.6, O_RDONLY) = 14
read(14, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0p\5\0\000...,
1024) = 1024
fstat64(14, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=3100, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 6228, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 14, 0) = 0x40025000
mprotect(0x40026000, 2132, PROT_NONE)   = 0
mmap2(0x40026000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 14,
0) = 0x40026000
close(14)   = 0
open(/usr/lib/libaspell.so.10, O_RDONLY) = 14
read(14, \177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0@|\3\000...,
1024) = 1024
fstat64(14, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=769344, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 768572, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 14, 0) =
0x40866000
mprotect(0x40908000, 105020, PROT_NONE) = 0
mmap2(0x40908000, 106496, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED,
14, 0xa2) = 0x40908000
close(14)   = 0
munmap(0x4084f000, 93283)   = 0
--- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) ---
+++ killed by SIGSEGV +++

...

Am assuming this is caused by aspell-en-0.33.7.1-3mdk which Has not been
rebuilt for gcc3.1


Charles






Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] libjpeg-6b-23mdk 9.0 lib policy

2002-05-28 Thread Yves Duret

Stefan van der Eijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I understand the benefits of the lib policy very well, let me rephrase my
 question:

 What does lib policy version 9 provide over the previous one? What will
 splitting the -devel into -static-devel  -devel packages bring?

- save space on your fs by not installing things you will never use.
- save space on distrib by having rpm taht could go on the third cd. it is
always a big figth to fit every important rpm on the first 2 cds.
- moth of these .a are never used and will never be, so we no more ship them.
  same reasons. 
- .. 
-- 
Yves Duret
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
piouk toujours et meme apres !





[Cooker] Laurent - Quanta?

2002-05-28 Thread Jason Straight

Just curious - since against all advice I do use this for my daily workstation 
and I use quanta a lot. I wish kde3.0.1 were in /opt still so I could upgrade 
without losing quanta, etc...
-- 

^^^
Jason Straight
President
BlazeConnect Internet Services
Cheboygan Michigan
www.blazeconnect.net
Phone: 231-597-0376





Re: [Cooker] Laurent - Quanta?

2002-05-28 Thread Marcel Pol

On Tue, 28 May 2002 16:31:59 -0400
Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just curious - since against all advice I do use this for my daily
 workstation and I use quanta a lot. I wish kde3.0.1 were in /opt still so I
 could upgrade without losing quanta, etc...

Or just upgrade quanta.
But I guess it takes some time to get the important apps all built on kde3 as
rpm.
The source from the cvs on kde.org (26 May) did build for me.

--
Marcel Pol

Linux 2.4.18-6mdksmp, up 2 days, 22:21





Re: [Cooker] kicker hangs

2002-05-28 Thread Brad Felmey

On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 15:07, Alexander Skwar wrote:

 So sprach Brad Felmey am 2002-05-28 um 10:31:07 -0500 :
  I got the same thing on a Matrox G450 dual-head. I had to roll back to
  XFree86 4.1 from the 8.1 CDs to fix the problem. I posted to this list
  about the X 4.2 dual-head failures, but got no response.
 
 Ah.  Yes, I'm also using a Matrox G450 dual-head.  Do you also use
 xinerama?  Are you also using the latest matrox drivers?

Yes. The problem only manifest itself under 4.2 if I enabled Xinerama
(regardless of whether using Mdk's or Matrox' drivers). Of course,
dual-head without xinerama is a pain, so I simply rolled back to 4.1 so
I could use xinerama again.
-- 
Brad Felmey





[Cooker] Mozilla Java Plugin Still Broken

2002-05-28 Thread nDiScReEt

I build the rpm source package mozilla-1.0-0.rc2.4mdk.src.rpm and still java 
is broken. I will try a tarball and see if that works next.
-- 

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Maximum Time Unlimited
Chicago Based and Operated

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Re: [Cooker] re : multimedia keyboards

2002-05-28 Thread Doug McClendon

Liam R. E. Quin wrote:

On Mon, 2002-05-27 at 11:17, Doug McClendon wrote:
  

xbindkeys works great for me. 



How does this compare to xkeycaps?
  


Its been awhile since I've even seen xkeycaps, did it get removed from 
mandrake?

But from memory, xkeycaps is something completely different.  If I 
recall, its a tool for mapping lower level keycodes to X level keycodes, 
allowing one to do things like switch the ctrl and caplocks keys. 
 xbindkeys is like hotkeys, khotkeys, lineak, in that it is a daemon 
which has a configuration list of X level keycodes, and a shell command 
line per keycode.  Then, whenever one of those keys gets hit, 
corresponding command line gets executed.

-dmc






Re: [Cooker] Laurent - Quanta?

2002-05-28 Thread Jason Straight

Thanks - I'll have to try that then.


On Tuesday 28 May 2002 16:57, Marcel Pol wrote:
 On Tue, 28 May 2002 16:31:59 -0400

 Jason Straight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Just curious - since against all advice I do use this for my daily
  workstation and I use quanta a lot. I wish kde3.0.1 were in /opt still so
  I could upgrade without losing quanta, etc...

 Or just upgrade quanta.
 But I guess it takes some time to get the important apps all built on kde3
 as rpm.
 The source from the cvs on kde.org (26 May) did build for me.

-- 

^^^
Jason Straight
President
BlazeConnect Internet Services
Cheboygan Michigan
www.blazeconnect.net
Phone: 231-597-0376





Re: [Cooker] Mozilla Java Plugin Still Broken

2002-05-28 Thread Ben Reser

On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 04:13:57PM -0500, nDiScReEt wrote:
 I build the rpm source package mozilla-1.0-0.rc2.4mdk.src.rpm and still java 
 is broken. I will try a tarball and see if that works next.

With a signature like that you'll be very lucky if anyone bothers to pay
any attention to you.

-- 
Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://ben.reser.org

We tend to see all wars through the lens of the current conflict, and we
mine history for lessons convenient to the present purpose.
- Brian Hayes




Re: [Cooker] Mozilla Java Plugin Still Broken

2002-05-28 Thread Gwenole Beauchesne

Hi,

 I build the rpm source package mozilla-1.0-0.rc2.4mdk.src.rpm and still 
 java
 is broken. I will try a tarball and see if that works next.

Huh, where did you find rc2.4mdk? Latest is rc2.2mdk and rc2.3mdk will 
probably go in with a fix for building mozilla with gcc3.1 on PPC.

The Java plugin will work if the JDK were to be rebuilt with gcc3.1. The 
problem is that Sun seems to not care about Mozilla, thus does not 
bother to rebuild the JDK with gcc3.1, though it works!

How does it affect MDK 9.0? Well, this has yet to be resolved. Don't say 
to rebuild Mozilla gcc2.96, that's not an option.

* The Mozilla issue is reported here:
http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=116444

* Rejected requested for enhancement:
http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4687814.html

Bye,
Gwenole.





Re: [Cooker] Mozilla Java Plugin Still Broken

2002-05-28 Thread nDiScReEt

On Tuesday 28 May 2002 4:42 pm, Ben Reser wrote:
 On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 04:13:57PM -0500, nDiScReEt wrote:
  I build the rpm source package mozilla-1.0-0.rc2.4mdk.src.rpm and still
  java is broken. I will try a tarball and see if that works next.

 With a signature like that you'll be very lucky if anyone bothers to pay
 any attention to you.

My signature is a program that uses fortune. That last signature is a 
by-product of that script in action. My apologies.
-- 

Altoine B
Maximum Time Unlimited
Chicago Based and Operated

Just the facts, Ma'am
-- Joe Friday
---
2.4.18-16mdk
Mandrake Linux release 8.3 (Cooker) for i586






Re: [Cooker] minicom and ppp broken for pcmcia modems

2002-05-28 Thread Steven J Mackenzie

andrej wrote
==
 My problem is that neither minicom, nor the ifup/usernetctl command line
 tools can communicate with the modem. As root, minicom starts, but the
 modem does not reply OK to the initialisation string, or to AT.
==

 First, do not post in HTML. Second, what strace shows?

 strace -f -o /tmp/foo minicom

Thanks for the tips.

I tested 2 minicoms, minicom.mdk, (renamed from the Mandrake RPM minicom),
and minicom.sjm that I built from the source out of the SRPM.

They both used the same minirc.dfl configuration file:
pr port/dev/ttyS1   [[[WRONG]]]
pu baudrate230400

(It looks like I configured this wrongly, the pr port value should be
/dev/ttyS2.)

The strace logs are both big. The only obvious difference to my eyes is that
the minicom.sjm opened /dev/modem, ignoring the config file.

On my computer /dev/modem is linked to /dev/tts/2, which is correct, which
is why my compiled version worked. Odd behaviour, but I can't claim the
minicom rpm package is broken any more, as both versions of minicom now work
with a corrected minirc.dfl.

Which leaves me stumped about why ifup ppp0 is not working:
May 28 23:37:14 waterloo ifup-ppp: pppd started for ppp0 on /dev/modem at
115200
May 28 23:37:14 waterloo pppd[12382]: pppd 2.4.1 started by root, uid 0
May 28 23:37:15 waterloo pppd[12382]: Connect script failed
May 28 23:37:16 waterloo pppd[12382]: Exit.

I think I'll sleep on it ...









Re: [Cooker] Mozilla Java Plugin Still Broken

2002-05-28 Thread Ryan T. Sammartino

On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 05:12:17PM -0500, nDiScReEt wrote:
 My signature is a program that uses fortune. That last signature is a 
 by-product of that script in action. My apologies.

My sig is also generated by fortune... you want to make sure you use the
-s option to say only short foruntes please.


-- 
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-- David Gerrold




Re: [Cooker] re : multimedia keyboards

2002-05-28 Thread Roger

mmm... neat. just tried:
lineakd-0.3-1
lineakconfig-0.1-1

and with a little hacking the text config file, the lineakd does work
here.

using a Logitech wireless Optical Mouse keyboard/mouse.

the dameon complains about some of the Finance Keys and 3-4 others as
to why they're not configured (i have them commented out in the config
file to allow the program to run without it faulting).

although, lineakconfig doesn't run at all.

-- 
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Re: [Cooker] Mozilla Java Plugin Still Broken

2002-05-28 Thread nDiScReEt

On Tuesday 28 May 2002 6:35 pm, Ryan T. Sammartino wrote:
 On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 05:12:17PM -0500, nDiScReEt wrote:
  My signature is a program that uses fortune. That last signature is a
  by-product of that script in action. My apologies.

 My sig is also generated by fortune... you want to make sure you use the
 -s option to say only short foruntes please.

Thank you, Ryan.

-- 

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Maximum Time Unlimited
Chicago Based and Operated

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talking to me about a HEART-WARMING European film ...
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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] aspell-0.33.7.1-4mdk

2002-05-28 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Tue, 28 May 2002 16:18:41 -0400
Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  
 Rebuild causes sylpheed-claws CVS to crash when either creating or
 replying to email if spell-check is enabled.
 
 
 Am assuming this is caused by aspell-en-0.33.7.1-3mdk which Has not
 been rebuilt for gcc3.1
 

Even after install of aspell-en-0.33.7.1-4 and complete new dl and build
of
cvs claws seg faults still occur.

Reverted to 1-3 for all aspell and all is normal.


Charles 




Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] libjpeg-6b-23mdk 9.0 lib policy

2002-05-28 Thread Stefan van der Eijk



I understand the benefits of the lib policy very well, let me rephrase my
question:

What does lib policy version 9 provide over the previous one? What will
splitting the -devel into -static-devel  -devel packages bring?



- save space on your fs by not installing things you will never use.
- save space on distrib by having rpm taht could go on the third cd. it is
always a big figth to fit every important rpm on the first 2 cds.
- moth of these .a are never used and will never be, so we no more ship them.
  same reasons. 
- .. 


And what happens in practice? All these rpm's are just installed on the 
cluster:

libmng1-static-devel-1.0.3-2mdk
ash-static-0.3.8-1mdk
XFree86-static-libs-4.2.0-11mdk
libelf0-static-devel-0.8.0-3mdk
libnetpbm9-static-devel-9.24-2mdk
libjpeg62-static-devel-6b-23mdk
libtiff3-static-devel-3.5.7-4mdk
libaa1-static-devel-1.4.0-0.rc5.3mdk
recode-static-devel-3.6-3mdk
libpng3-static-devel-1.2.1-8mdk
t1lib1-static-devel-1.3.1-5mdk
libldap2-devel-static-2.0.21-4mdk
libusb0.1_4-static-devel-0.1.5-2mdk
libungif4-static-devel-4.1.0-18mdk

Nobody is going todo any effort in updating the BuildRequires of the 
packages (all the -static-devel packages are installed on the cluster 
anyway, why bother?).

About the space argument: I'm wondering if this is _really_ going to 
save that much space. Take a look at how big those packages are:

$ du -s *static*  
128 a2ps-static-devel-4.13-13mdk.i586.rpm
240 ash-static-0.3.8-1mdk.i586.rpm
44  console-tools-static-devel-0.2.3-31mdk.i586.rpm
16900   glibc_lsb-devel-static-2.2.90-4mdk.i586.rpm
64  libaa1-static-devel-1.4.0-0.rc5.3mdk.i586.rpm
56  libelf0-static-devel-0.8.0-3mdk.i586.rpm
412 libforms0-static-devel-0.-4mdk.i586.rpm
88  libjpeg62-static-devel-6b-23mdk.i586.rpm
224 libldap2-devel-static-2.0.21-4mdk.i586.rpm
28  liblm_sensors1-static-devel-2.6.2-4mdk.i586.rpm
116 libmng1-static-devel-1.0.3-2mdk.i586.rpm
84  libnetpbm9-static-devel-9.24-2mdk.i586.rpm
88  libpng3-static-devel-1.2.1-8mdk.i586.rpm
96  libtiff3-static-devel-3.5.7-4mdk.i586.rpm
24  libungif4-static-devel-4.1.0-18mdk.i586.rpm
16  libusb0.1_4-static-devel-0.1.5-2mdk.i586.rpm
60  libwraster2-static-devel-0.80.0-5mdk.i586.rpm
720 recode-static-devel-3.6-3mdk.i586.rpm
160 t1lib1-static-devel-1.3.1-5mdk.i586.rpm
268 WindowMaker-static-devel-0.80.0-5mdk.i586.rpm
2392XFree86-static-libs-4.2.0-11mdk.i586.rpm

Most of these packages are  100Kb. You're probably going to have more 
overhead in the rpm package (and perhaps filesystem overhead) then 
you're ever going to win back.

My opinion is that you're only going to make things more complex like 
this, thus creating more overhead in keeping the BuildRequires of 
packages correct (but MDK doesn't really care about this, no?).

Why not first take a look at all the duplicate files in the packages and 
filter those out? There's probably more to save there, and that won't 
provide you more unexpected hidden work...

Stefan





[Cooker] FYI Dead Apps. on latest KDE3

2002-05-28 Thread newslett


KDE3 Koffice (Kword etc.) and WINE are both dead under the new KDE3.
Korganizer is gone too from Koffice.

Cheers,

Jason





[Cooker] scannerdrake project: microtek X6usb

2002-05-28 Thread John Yarger

I wanted to pass on my configuration experiences regarding scannerdrake
to the developer of the project to aid with the auto-detection.  I have
the Microtek ScanMaker X6USB now running with sane 1.0.7 and xsane 0.86
on ML 8.2.  Below is my configuration saga...   

After running scannerdrake as root, and choosing Microtek ScanMaker
X6USB, scannerdrake exits. I then attempted to run xsane as a normal
user. xsane displays a license message when first run. I chose Accept,
at which point xsane displays a scanning for devices message. After a
few seconds, the message xsane: no devices available is displayed.  

The followings command shows that it is detected on the usb hub:
# cat /proc/bus/usb/devices
T:  Bus=01 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#=  1 Spd=12  MxCh= 2
B:  Alloc=  0/900 us ( 0%), #Int=  0, #Iso=  0
D:  Ver= 1.00 Cls=09(hub  ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs=  1
P:  Vendor= ProdID= Rev= 0.00
S:  Product=USB UHCI Root Hub
S:  SerialNumber=d400
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=40 MxPwr=  0mA
I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub  ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
E:  Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=   8 Ivl=255ms
T:  Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=01 Dev#= 10 Spd=12  MxCh= 0
D:  Ver= 1.00 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=03 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs=  1
P:  Vendor=05da ProdID=0099 Rev= 0.00
C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=40 MxPwr=  0mA
I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 3 Cls=00(ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=microtekX6
E:  Ad=01(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS=  32 Ivl=  0ms
E:  Ad=82(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS=  32 Ivl=  0ms
E:  Ad=83(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS=  64 Ivl=  0ms

The following command checks all of the common scanner locations to find
an open:
$sane-find-scanner -v
...
sane-find-scanner: checking /dev/sg0... open ok
sane-find-scanner: found SCSI CD-drive HP CD-Writer+ 7200 3.01 at
device /dev/sg0sane-find-scanner: checking /dev/sg1... open ok
sane-find-scanner: found SCSI scanner  Scanner 636A4 1.40 at device
/dev/sg1
...

After discovering that the scanner uses a SCSI interface underneath,
this command shows some more information about the scanner:
$ cat /proc/scsi/scsi
Attached devices:
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
  Vendor: HP   Model: CD-Writer+ 7200  Rev: 3.01
  Type:   CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
  Vendor:  Model: Scanner 636A4Rev: 1.40
  Type:   Scanner  ANSI SCSI revision: 02

In order to tell xsane what backend driver to use as well as which
device, issue this command:
$xsane microtek2:/dev/sg1

Or to get xsane to work from the program menu entry, I put the following
entries into /etc/sane.d/microtek2.conf:
/dev/sg1
option connect-device

Most everything works when I use the default settings.  When I vary some
options, such as adjust the resolution or color depth higher, I get the
following error: Failed to start scanner: Error during device I/O. The
next attempt at producing a scan results in a segmentation fault.  I was
able to vary these settings once or twice successfully, but it usually
resulted in the error.

If I can be of any assistance in the effort to get this working better,
please let me know.

--John





[Cooker] kino-0.5-2mdk.src.rpm build error

2002-05-28 Thread Roger

Using gcc-31:

g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I../intl  -I/usr/include/gnome-1.0
-DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/lib/gnome-libs/include
-I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/include/orbit-1.0
-I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include/libdv
-I/usr/local/include/libdv  -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2
-I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include 
-Wall -g -O2 -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_REENTRANT -DWITH_LIBDV
-DKINO_PIXMAPSDIR=\/usr/share/pixmaps/kino\
-I/usr/include/libxml2/libxml -I/usr/include/libxml2 -c frame.cc
In file included from /usr/include/g++-v31/backward/strstream:51,
 from frame.cc:40:
/usr/include/g++-v31/backward/backward_warning.h:32:2: warning: #warning
This file includes at least one deprecated or antiquated header. Please
consider using one of the 32 headers found in section 17.4.1.2 of the
C++ standard. Examples include substituting the X header for the X.h
header for C++ includes, or sstream instead of the deprecated header
strstream.h. To disable this warning use -Wno-deprecated.
In file included from frame.cc:48:
libdv.h:29: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `gint' with no type
libdv.h:29: parse error before `(' token
libdv.h:31: type specifier omitted for parameter `guchar'
libdv.h:31: parse error before `*' token
libdv.h:33: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `gint' with no type
libdv.h:33: parse error before `(' token
libdv.h:36: type specifier omitted for parameter `guint'
libdv.h:36: parse error before `)' token
libdv.h:39: type specifier omitted for parameter `guchar'
libdv.h:39: parse error before `*' token
libdv.h:42: type specifier omitted for parameter `guchar'
libdv.h:42: parse error before `*' token
libdv.h:49: type specifier omitted for parameter `guint8'
libdv.h:49: parse error before `,' token
libdv.h:33: duplicate member `LibDV::gint'
frame.cc: In member function `void Frame::ExtractHeader()':
frame.cc:668: no method `LibDV::DV_parse_header'
make[2]: *** [frame.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/kino-0.5/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/kino-0.5'
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2

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Re: [Cooker] vsftpd?

2002-05-28 Thread Todd Lyons

Yves Duret wrote on Tue, May 28, 2002 at 12:08:57PM +0200 :

  You can count 1 here :-)
  Yes, me too - but you and I are for sure not normal users, so I would
  not say that we count.
 the alternatives trick was not made for normal users.

How about a gui similar to drakxservices, but for status and
configuration of alternatives?

I would say it sounds simple, but then someone would challenge me to
produce code, and then I'd be miserable trying to make it. :)
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[Cooker] Weird KDE3 Desktop Icon Behavior

2002-05-28 Thread newslett


On the latest KDE3, after I have placed my icons on the desktop where I 
want them to be and log out saving the session while doing so, when I 
log back in, my icons are lined up in 2 rows at the top of the desktop. 
 I have tried also selecting to arrange the icons via the various 
arrangement options but once again on logout/in, it rearranges them 
automatically to the top of the desktop.

Regards,

Jason





Re: [Cooker] kino-0.5-2mdk.src.rpm build error

2002-05-28 Thread Roger

fyi: the latest cvs has removed the src/libdv.h file from its
repository.

so it looks as if this code is being worked on as i type.


On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 23:01, Roger wrote:
 Using gcc-31:
 
 g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -I../intl-I/usr/include/gnome-1.0
 -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/lib/gnome-libs/include
 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/include/orbit-1.0
 -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2 -I/usr/X11R6/include   -I/usr/include/libdv
   -I/usr/local/include/libdv  -I/usr/include/gtk-1.2
 -I/usr/include/glib-1.2 -I/usr/lib/glib/include -I/usr/X11R6/include 
 -Wall -g -O2 -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -D_REENTRANT -DWITH_LIBDV
 -DKINO_PIXMAPSDIR=\/usr/share/pixmaps/kino\
 -I/usr/include/libxml2/libxml -I/usr/include/libxml2 -c frame.cc
 In file included from /usr/include/g++-v31/backward/strstream:51,
  from frame.cc:40:
 /usr/include/g++-v31/backward/backward_warning.h:32:2: warning: #warning
 This file includes at least one deprecated or antiquated header. Please
 consider using one of the 32 headers found in section 17.4.1.2 of the
 C++ standard. Examples include substituting the X header for the X.h
 header for C++ includes, or sstream instead of the deprecated header
 strstream.h. To disable this warning use -Wno-deprecated.
 In file included from frame.cc:48:
 libdv.h:29: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `gint' with no type
 libdv.h:29: parse error before `(' token
 libdv.h:31: type specifier omitted for parameter `guchar'
 libdv.h:31: parse error before `*' token
 libdv.h:33: ISO C++ forbids declaration of `gint' with no type
 libdv.h:33: parse error before `(' token
 libdv.h:36: type specifier omitted for parameter `guint'
 libdv.h:36: parse error before `)' token
 libdv.h:39: type specifier omitted for parameter `guchar'
 libdv.h:39: parse error before `*' token
 libdv.h:42: type specifier omitted for parameter `guchar'
 libdv.h:42: parse error before `*' token
 libdv.h:49: type specifier omitted for parameter `guint8'
 libdv.h:49: parse error before `,' token
 libdv.h:33: duplicate member `LibDV::gint'
 frame.cc: In member function `void Frame::ExtractHeader()':
 frame.cc:668: no method `LibDV::DV_parse_header'
 make[2]: *** [frame.o] Error 1
 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/kino-0.5/src'
 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/kino-0.5'
 make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
 
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[Cooker] xsane bails out with UMAX2200 USB

2002-05-28 Thread Roger

It would appear that xsane is trying to scan for a scanning device even
after i specify one (xsane umax:/dev/usb/scanner0).  I also tried to
create a common ln -s /dev/usb/scanner0 /dev/usbscanner which apppears
to help but xsane then complains:

gdb reports:

Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
0x407454c0 in sane_sm3600_init ()
   from /usr/lib/sane/libsane-sm3600.so.1

sane has no problem finding the umax device connected via usb port and 
scannerdrake appears to find  configure it also.

I can also use xscan to perform scans, but it's not as good as xsane.

This has been a continous bug for the past ~6 mos or more.
I'm now on gcc-31

Although I should probabely send this to the xsane mailling list, maybe
the xsane packager is on this list.

oh, btw, sane-1.0.8 is out! (yes, i packaged this as well last night,
but my email was down.)

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Re: [Cooker] scannerdrake project: microtek X6usb

2002-05-28 Thread Roger

just an fyi, dunno if this model is support under sane (but my astra
umax 2200 scsi/usb is).

try either xscanimage or using scanimage manully:

xscanimage umax:/dev/usb/scanner0
scanimage umax:/dev/usb/scanner0

or yours would be something like:
xscanimage mustek:/dev/usb/scanner0

On Tue, 2002-05-28 at 21:34, John Yarger wrote:
 I wanted to pass on my configuration experiences regarding scannerdrake
 to the developer of the project to aid with the auto-detection.  I have
 the Microtek ScanMaker X6USB now running with sane 1.0.7 and xsane 0.86
 on ML 8.2.  Below is my configuration saga...   
 
 After running scannerdrake as root, and choosing Microtek ScanMaker
 X6USB, scannerdrake exits. I then attempted to run xsane as a normal
 user. xsane displays a license message when first run. I chose Accept,
 at which point xsane displays a scanning for devices message. After a
 few seconds, the message xsane: no devices available is displayed.  
 
 The followings command shows that it is detected on the usb hub:
 # cat /proc/bus/usb/devices
 T:  Bus=01 Lev=00 Prnt=00 Port=00 Cnt=00 Dev#=  1 Spd=12  MxCh= 2
 B:  Alloc=  0/900 us ( 0%), #Int=  0, #Iso=  0
 D:  Ver= 1.00 Cls=09(hub  ) Sub=00 Prot=00 MxPS= 8 #Cfgs=  1
 P:  Vendor= ProdID= Rev= 0.00
 S:  Product=USB UHCI Root Hub
 S:  SerialNumber=d400
 C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=40 MxPwr=  0mA
 I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=09(hub  ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=hub
 E:  Ad=81(I) Atr=03(Int.) MxPS=   8 Ivl=255ms
 T:  Bus=01 Lev=01 Prnt=01 Port=01 Cnt=01 Dev#= 10 Spd=12  MxCh= 0
 D:  Ver= 1.00 Cls=ff(vend.) Sub=03 Prot=00 MxPS=64 #Cfgs=  1
 P:  Vendor=05da ProdID=0099 Rev= 0.00
 C:* #Ifs= 1 Cfg#= 1 Atr=40 MxPwr=  0mA
 I:  If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 3 Cls=00(ifc ) Sub=00 Prot=00 Driver=microtekX6
 E:  Ad=01(O) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS=  32 Ivl=  0ms
 E:  Ad=82(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS=  32 Ivl=  0ms
 E:  Ad=83(I) Atr=02(Bulk) MxPS=  64 Ivl=  0ms
 
 The following command checks all of the common scanner locations to find
 an open:
 $sane-find-scanner -v
 ...
 sane-find-scanner: checking /dev/sg0... open ok
 sane-find-scanner: found SCSI CD-drive HP CD-Writer+ 7200 3.01 at
 device /dev/sg0sane-find-scanner: checking /dev/sg1... open ok
 sane-find-scanner: found SCSI scanner  Scanner 636A4 1.40 at device
 /dev/sg1
 ...
 
 After discovering that the scanner uses a SCSI interface underneath,
 this command shows some more information about the scanner:
 $ cat /proc/scsi/scsi
 Attached devices:
 Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
   Vendor: HP   Model: CD-Writer+ 7200  Rev: 3.01
   Type:   CD-ROM   ANSI SCSI revision: 02
 Host: scsi1 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
   Vendor:  Model: Scanner 636A4Rev: 1.40
   Type:   Scanner  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
 
 In order to tell xsane what backend driver to use as well as which
 device, issue this command:
 $xsane microtek2:/dev/sg1
 
 Or to get xsane to work from the program menu entry, I put the following
 entries into /etc/sane.d/microtek2.conf:
 /dev/sg1
 option connect-device
 
 Most everything works when I use the default settings.  When I vary some
 options, such as adjust the resolution or color depth higher, I get the
 following error: Failed to start scanner: Error during device I/O. The
 next attempt at producing a scan results in a segmentation fault.  I was
 able to vary these settings once or twice successfully, but it usually
 resulted in the error.
 
 If I can be of any assistance in the effort to get this working better,
 please let me know.
 
 --John
 
 
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Re: [Cooker] RPM question...

2002-05-28 Thread Todd Lyons

Borsenkow Andrej wrote on Sun, May 26, 2002 at 09:33:41PM +0400 :
  
  I think it would be nice to have:
  [ %{buildroot} != / ]  rm -rf %{buildroot}
  as default in %prep, %install and %clean.
 AFAIK it is currently done automatically as part of %setup and it is not
 done if you use --short-circuit and it must not be done in this case :-)

But not the check to see if buildroot is set to /.  It's not a big issue
though since everybody is building as a regular user and not root.

Blue skies...   Todd
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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] aspell-0.33.7.1-4mdk

2002-05-28 Thread Charles A Edwards

On Tue, 28 May 2002 21:08:55 -0400
Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
 
 Even after install of aspell-en-0.33.7.1-4 and complete new dl and
 build of
 cvs claws seg faults still occur.
 

Found problem.
pspell needs to be rebuilt with gcc3.1.
src does rebuild easily and after installation of pspell-0.12.2-5,
libpspell4-0.12.2-5, libpspell4-devel-0.12.2-5 Sylpheed functions
normally with spell-check enabled.   


Charles




Re: [Cooker] gabber is still broken

2002-05-28 Thread Luis Alves

OK, sorry. I thought it would be usefull.

Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:

Luis Alves [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  

just to remenber that gabber is still broken.



it will have to wait for fcrozat's return. reposting will be
useless, I think.

  








Re: [Cooker] when installing the latest pwlib i have problems withthe gnomemeeting rpm

2002-05-28 Thread Luis Alves

It it possible to compile gnomemeeting to use this new version.

Borsenkow Andrej wrote:

this is what i get

[root@finalpoint cooker]# rpm -Uvh pwlib1-1.2.19-1mdk.i586.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
pwlib1 = 1.2.17 is needed by gnomemeeting-0.86-0.1mdk




so what? 


  








RE: [Cooker] when installing the latest pwlib i have problems with the gnomemeeting rpm

2002-05-28 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

 
 It it possible to compile gnomemeeting to use this new version.
 

right. Sorry.

-andrej

 Borsenkow Andrej wrote:
 
 this is what i get
 
 [root@finalpoint cooker]# rpm -Uvh pwlib1-1.2.19-1mdk.i586.rpm
 error: failed dependencies:
 pwlib1 = 1.2.17 is needed by gnomemeeting-0.86-0.1mdk
 
 
 
 
 so what?
 
 
 
 
 
 





RE: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] libjpeg-6b-23mdk 9.0 lib policy

2002-05-28 Thread Borsenkow Andrej


 
 
 
 I understand the benefits of the lib policy very well, let me
rephrase my
 question:
 
 What does lib policy version 9 provide over the previous one? What
will
 splitting the -devel into -static-devel  -devel packages bring?
 
 
 
 - save space on your fs by not installing things you will never use.
 - save space on distrib by having rpm taht could go on the third cd.
it is
 always a big figth to fit every important rpm on the first 2 cds.
 - moth of these .a are never used and will never be, so we no more
ship
 them.
   same reasons.
 - ..
 
 
 And what happens in practice? All these rpm's are just installed on
the
 cluster:
 
 libmng1-static-devel-1.0.3-2mdk
 ash-static-0.3.8-1mdk

I was wrong (I missed static part). I do not understand this - for any
package using libtool you can NOT split it into dynamic and static
part. It is simply impossible because you have single *.la interface to
both. They belong all together.


-andrej




One more PLF package? RE: [Cooker] Mozilla Java Plugin Still Broken

2002-05-28 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

 
  I build the rpm source package mozilla-1.0-0.rc2.4mdk.src.rpm and
still
  java
  is broken. I will try a tarball and see if that works next.
 
 Huh, where did you find rc2.4mdk? Latest is rc2.2mdk and rc2.3mdk will
 probably go in with a fix for building mozilla with gcc3.1 on PPC.
 
 The Java plugin will work if the JDK were to be rebuilt with gcc3.1.
The
 problem is that Sun seems to not care about Mozilla, thus does not
 bother to rebuild the JDK with gcc3.1, though it works!
 

So you mean it _is_ possible to build Java with 3.1? Then what the hell,
let's release PLF package for it. It is still better than nothing.

-andrej




RE: [Cooker] Missing buildrequire for mandrake_desk-8.3-2mdk

2002-05-28 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

 
 The correct missing buildrequire is libglade0-devel.
 

Actually the correct require is libglade-devel unless mandrake_desk
depends on exact version of libglade. 

-andrej




[Cooker] no KDE2 libs any more?

2002-05-28 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

Does it mean no KDE2 application is possible now?

-andrej




Re: [Cooker] when installing the latest pwlib i have problems with the gnomemeeting rpm

2002-05-28 Thread nDiScReEt

On Tuesday 28 May 2002 11:50 pm, Luis Alves wrote:
 It it possible to compile gnomemeeting to use this new version.

 Borsenkow Andrej wrote:
 this is what i get
 
 [root@finalpoint cooker]# rpm -Uvh pwlib1-1.2.19-1mdk.i586.rpm
 error: failed dependencies:
 pwlib1 = 1.2.17 is needed by gnomemeeting-0.86-0.1mdk
 
 so what?
Yes, wouldn't simply doing this:

rpm -e pwlib --nodeps
urpmi pwlib1
or 
rpm -ivh pwlib1

Do the trick?
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Re: One more PLF package? RE: [Cooker] Mozilla Java Plugin Still Broken

2002-05-28 Thread nDiScReEt

On Wednesday 29 May 2002 12:08 am, Borsenkow Andrej wrote:
   I build the rpm source package mozilla-1.0-0.rc2.4mdk.src.rpm and

 still

   java
   is broken. I will try a tarball and see if that works next.
 
  Huh, where did you find rc2.4mdk? Latest is rc2.2mdk and rc2.3mdk will
  probably go in with a fix for building mozilla with gcc3.1 on PPC.
 
  The Java plugin will work if the JDK were to be rebuilt with gcc3.1.

 The

  problem is that Sun seems to not care about Mozilla, thus does not
  bother to rebuild the JDK with gcc3.1, though it works!

 So you mean it _is_ possible to build Java with 3.1? Then what the hell,
 let's release PLF package for it. It is still better than nothing.

 -andrej

Are we to use rpm-rebuilder for this purpose? I'm going to try it out and will 
post in a few.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] libjpeg-6b-23mdk 9.0 lib policy

2002-05-28 Thread Stefan van der Eijk



I was wrong (I missed static part). I do not understand this - for any
package using libtool you can NOT split it into dynamic and static
part. It is simply impossible because you have single *.la interface to
both. They belong all together.

So this means that they'll have to always have the -static-devel and 
-devel installed to be able to build stuff?

Stefan





RE: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] libjpeg-6b-23mdk 9.0 lib policy

2002-05-28 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

 
 
 I was wrong (I missed static part). I do not understand this - for
any
 package using libtool you can NOT split it into dynamic and
static
 part. It is simply impossible because you have single *.la interface
to
 both. They belong all together.
 
 So this means that they'll have to always have the -static-devel and
 -devel installed to be able to build stuff?
 

Unless something very smart is done ... the decision to use static or
dynamic part happens at runtime when you _use_ these development
libraries. You must have both available. Or you build them as dynamic or
static only.

-andrej




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