Re: ssh and devices
To quote Rick Rezinas [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Hi, # # I'm using testing # I was having an issue (think I saw a post regarding this recently), # where a regular user couldn't use ssh due to ' no controlling tty' # # I found that the issue was an inability for nonroot to write to /dev/tty # and changed o+w for /dev/tty # # Now all seems happy, but I was curious if this is actually a good fix or # creates a security issue...and why this would've been changed. Also, what # packages are in charge of which devices...is there a debian standard for this # or do package maintainers just create and modify devices as they see fit? I think the correct fix would be to change the group of all the tty* devices to the tty group. Then, when you log in, it gets temporarily changed to your own group ID. So, permissions should be rw-rw, with tty as group, root as owner. I think. :) David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Antwort: Rebooting is foolish ....
To quote Carel Fellinger [EMAIL PROTECTED], # On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 04:06:03PM -0500, David B . Harris wrote: # ... # You also need to re-boot for some hardware re-initialization. See the # recent thread on XFree 4.0.2 and an IntelliMouse-compatible mouse. # # I doubt it. Any trouble I've had with PS2 mouses not being properly # initialized could be solved by /etc/init.d.gpm restart preceded by # the occasionally physical reconnecting of the mouse. But YMMV:) Don't doubt it. I didn't just make it up to prove that a reboot *could* be required to re-initialize hardware :) David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: keeping checksums of every file installed
To quote Robert Waldner [EMAIL PROTECTED], # # Hi! # # I´ll soon have to give out the root-pw of one of my boxes temporarily, # but I´m a little paranoid... # # Does anybody know of some program/script that could make checksums of # eachevery file installed and keeping this list somewhere safe so that # I can compare it when I take the password away from my colleague to # make sure there´s no trojan or something installed? # # (The joke is that there´ll be a security audit and they want to have # the root-pws for that...) I think something along the lines of; find ./ -type f | xargs md5sum outputfile.txt Would work. Later, do the same, and then 'diff -u outputfile.txt newoutputfile.txt', to see the differences. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: upgrade to a lib in testing
To quote Robin Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Hi. I don't seem to have it right. I get an error on 'apt-get install # libsdl1.1-dev': # # Reading Package Lists... # Building Dependency Tree... # E: Couldn't find package libsdl1.1-dev Don't read the other reply ... Use deb-src, trust me. Here's what you do; 1) Temporary add a deb-src entry pointing to testing. You've done this already. 2) As root, do 'apt-get -b source libsdl1.1'. That'll build libsdl1.1 .debs. 3) As root, do 'dpkg -i .debs', where .debs are the names of the .deb files generated by 'apt-get -b source'.. If you just add a 'deb' line pointing to testing, and then 'apt-get install something' from it, you're going to run into big problems, trust me. And you'll get little sympathy :( David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Site to watch
To quote DSC Lithuania [EMAIL PROTECTED], # He's the guy who wrote TIP that keeps my ZIP drive working, so he seems to # know his # stuff. Personally, I used to use that site a lot for portscans and the like(for well over a year). Now, while I think he provides a very good service, I also think he's pulling some of this stuff out of his arse. A lot of the stuff he's invented is just a page of marketspeak. Now, I think his portscanning service is useful(even if some other ones, that are better, are available). But read everything he writes with a big 'ol grain of salt. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Site to watch
To quote John Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Agreed. And as you said there are other sites that offer more in-depth # scans. Something like http://scan.sygatetech.com/ comes to mind. # But unfortunately the only truly secure networked computer is one that # isn't networked at all 8^). I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that way; I feel bad when I put someone else down. Anyways, another good one is www.cablemodemhelp.com/portscan.htm . Very nice :) http://lrp.c0wz.com has a list of them, I think halfway down the page. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Cannot boot off hardrive and help?
To quote Daniel Mashao [EMAIL PROTECTED], # I cannot boot from my harddrive. I made sure the root partition is # bootable according to fdisk. This is a new Debian install using potato # disks. I can boot (slow) from a diskette. The error you get when trying to boot off the harddrive would be useful. Otherwise, my guess would be that you havn't installed LILO or GRUB. They're both what are called boot loaders. They take on the task of booting a kernel or OS, and passing any appropriate parameters to the aforementioned kernel or OS. Neither are particularily easy to set up; check out the HOWTOs available at www.linuxdocs.org . David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Cannot boot off hardrive and help?
To quote Daniel Mashao [EMAIL PROTECTED], # All the computer says is: # Searching for Boot Record from IDE-0... # # and it never finds it so it goes thru other options such as CD and Floppy. This confirms what I originally thought; the MBR hasn't been written(this is done by either LILO, GRUB, or any other boot loader). # No I have installed LILO. I have used lilo since I got to know Linux which # was around 1994. I thought of installing grub but I do not know how it # works. The problem seems to be much earlier. My hard drive is 15GB. Oh, that makes things extremely odd. In that case, double-check that /etc/lilo.conf is correct, and then run 'lilo'. Does it give you any errors? David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Truetype fonts
To quote Anton Emmerfors [EMAIL PROTECTED], # While it is true that ttmkfdir identifies more fonts and encodings # than mkttfdir, I have not been able to make xfs (4.0.2 from testing) # work with its fonts.dir files. The only difference I can find is that # ttmkfdir does not capitalize foudries but that should not make a # difference, should it? While I don't think that that should make a difference, I'd like to point out that it Word For Me(tm) :) I'm running Sid, XFree86 4.0.2, and I'm using the built-in font renderer. If you're using the 'xfs' font server, a seperate executable, then that'd be your problem. It doesn't do truetype fonts. 'xfs-xtt' does, however, and you can use that if you insist on having a seperate font server. XFree86 4.0.x has native support for truetype fonts, though. Just add: Load freetype into your Modules section of XF86Config-4. Then add a FontPath to your truetype fonts in the Files secton. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: more post-upgrade weirdness: debconf
To quote Glenn Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED], # 1) when I run command debconf as root (or non), I get command not found There is no 'debconf' command. The debconf package provides various facilities to packages, but no 'debconf' command. # 2) when I run man debconf, the system grinds for a bit, spits out some of # those 'dangling symlink' man page warnings, and finally says there is no # man page for debconf. HOWEVER After you've installed/upgraded many packages, 'man' rebuilds its database. That's what's happening when your system grinds to a halt. Very normal. I've also got a number of dangling symlinks in my man dirs. I'm not too happy about them, but it's no biggie. # 3) when I apt-get install debconf, the system tells me that debconf is # already the most recent version, and Then debconf probably is the most recent version :) # 4) if I try to apt-get remove debconf, I'm told a giant slew of packages # are *ALSO* gonna be deleted. Many packages use debconf for various configuration tasks. 'apt-cache show debconf' for more information. # 5) update-alternatives --config debconf gives no alternatives for debconf. That makes sense - there's no 'debconf' command. :) If you're trying to reconfigure a package(which will probably use services provided by the debconf package), you're probably looking for the 'dpkg --configure package' command. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Truetype fonts
To quote Rob VanFleet [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Since XFree86 4 has been moved into testing, I figured that I can do # away with xfstt since the new xfs supposedly supports truetype fonts. # The problem is that I can't seem to find out what package contains the # ttmkfdir command that allows one to make a fonts.dir for truetype fonts. # Does anyone have an idea as to where to look? I'd like to warn you that there are two 'ttmkfdir' programs around that people mix up; 'ttmkfdir', and 'mkttfdir'. One is good, the other isn't quite so good. A while ago in #debian on irc.openprojects.net, there was a debate about which was better. I got the tarball of the one I used and sent it around to people and had them run in. For the six people that did it, there was a 150-230% gain in the number of fonts and font encodings that were recognized. The one which recognized the most encodings was 'ttmkfdir'. A search for ttmkfdir on Freshmeat immediately turned up what I was looking for, and a tarball with a prebuilt, statically linked binary is at: http://freshmeat.net/redir/ttmkfdir/10789/url_tgz/ttmkfdir.tar.gz So, there you go :) Have fun. Keep in mind that you need to have the freetype module loaded from /etc/X11/XF86Config, and your font paths need to point to the right places. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Dangers in upgrading to unstable?
To quote Colin Cashman [EMAIL PROTECTED], # I recently installed Debian on my laptop, but some of the programs I was planning on using exist only in unstable (for instance, # Enlightenment 0.16.5). If you only want a limited number of newer packages(I'd say less than 20 or 30), you can do the following to get the newer package for your Potato system: 1) Temporarily add a deb-src line in your sources.list pointing to unstable. 2) 'apt-get source package' 3) Go into the newly created directory, and run, as root, 'dpkg-buildpackage -uc -b' 4) In the directory above the newly created directory(probably where you ran 'apt-get source package', you'll have new binary .deb(s), made for Potato. 5) Comment out your unstable deb-src line in sources.list. 6) Lather, rinse, repeat :) # What are the dangers in upgrading my system to run unstable? What issues am I likely to face if I do upgrade the whole thing to # unstable? Would it simply be better to download the specific unstable packages I want and otherwise stick with simply running # stable? Now, I've been running Sid for a while now(I was using Woody before that). I can say that my system is really quite stable. Very few things segfault on me, everything compiles well, it's really quite a pleasure :) However, sometimes the upgrade itself causes problems. For instance, I see a lot of people coming in to #debian on irc.openprojects.net with perl installation problems - only when they're upgrade to Woody/Sid, though. I didn't get that problem, so I don't know the solution, but it's a good example. Also, you should be familiar with system recovery. You should have a rescue disk, with anything you might need to get your system up and running. For example, a broken LILO package made it into Sid a while back, and over-wrote some people's lilo.conf, without a backup. Some people's systems were even unbootable after that. Not a good thing :) And, lastly, if you're using Sid(unstable), you'll likely not get any sympathy if a new package breaks stuff. You're using unstable Debian, after all :) Expect hiccups and maybe even worse. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: gnome problems
To quote Michael P. Soulier [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Hey people. I'm running the gnome binaries from 2.2r2, and I'm having a # few problems. I managed to get the bloody thing to finally run sawmill after # switching WMs back and forth, but the control center still isn't on the panel. # I can run gnomecc in a terminal to bring it up, but I'd like it to be part of # the panel. Right-click the panel. You'll be offered several options in several menus. You're probably looking for Add Launcher or somesuch. # Also, in the gnome-terminal, I don't seem to have the help files. How do I # set a default geometry? I've set the font size, but I'd like to set a default # height and width as well. Run 'gnome-terminal --help' in a terminal; it'll list the options it accepts. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Cannot get iptables to work in 2.4.1 and compiling question.
To quote seg [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Hi, # # I get the error command not found when I type iptables. I know I compiled every net option in the kernel (choosed y). What am I doing wrong? Not much to go on, I know You need to get the iptables package as well; the 'iptables' command doesn't come with the kernel. # Also what does make modules do, does it create an image like make bzImage? I have 2 comps running linux at home: a 1Ghz t-bird and a p166. Compiling on the p166 is painfully long. I would like to compile everything on the 1Ghz and then transfer the bzImage and the modules image (if there is one, following make modules) to the p166 and make modules_install there. Is that possible? Or would I need to make dep on both comps, make bzImage on the 1ghz, transfer the image and make modlues and make modules_install on the p166? You have to be sure the kernel you compile is compiled for you target computer(ie: in 'make xconfig' or whatever you use, CPU Type is set to Pentium). Aside from that, make modules_install copies all the modules to /lib/modules/kernel-version. So if you copy that directory over to your target computer, that should work(assuming it's compiled properly for the target CPU). David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: how to stop gdm?
To quote [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Hello, # # I recently installed helix-gnome and would rather not have gdm load auto- # matically. With xdm I could just remove xbase, then xdm so prevent it from starting but with gdm, dpkg would not allow it not unless I remove task-helix-gnome :( what can I do? Remove /etc/rc2.d/Sxxgdm , where x is a number(so there are two of them ;). It's probably 20. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: unresolved symbols
To quote Hall Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Do a mv /lib/modules/2.2.17 /lib/modules/2.2.17-backup and then re-run # make modules_install. Another option is to edit the kernel toplevel Makefile. It's probably /usr/src/linux/Makefile . Four lines down, there an EXTRAVERSION variable that is generally unset. Add you own identifier(-custom1, -custom2, -01-29-2000), and that's what's added your kernel version. So, if you compiled 2.2.17, with an EXTRAVERSION of -custom1, 'uname -r' would report 2.2.17-custom1, all your modules would automatically be put in /lib/modules/2.2.17-custom1(meaning that you don't have to get rid of your old modules, etc.), and so on and so forth. This is probably the best solution to your problem. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Newbie Shell Script Problems
To quote Tom Schuetz [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Could someone please give me a hint re. how to get a functional shell # script? # # I've done the #! /bin/bash, and I've chmod'd to +x, and the CHMOD shows up # correctly as executable in ls -l, but still will not go. If you run 'echo $PATH' from the command-line, you'll see where your shell looks for commands when you try to run something. If your script is not in one of those directories, you have to use the full pathname when calling it. For instance, if your script is /home/user/scripts/myfirstscript, and /home/user/scripts is not in $PATH, you have to execute it by typing '/home/user/scripts/myfirstscript'. If you're currently in /home/user/scripts, you can just type './myfirstscript', since ./ is a short form of for your current directory. You should also have #!/bin/bash as the first line in your script. #! /bin/bash, with the space, is generally not how it's done. It probably won't case any problems, but it's best to do things the way they're expected to be done. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Linux Partitions
To quote Leonard Leblanc [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Hello Everyone, # # I am going to be running a Linux box as Firewall/DNS/WWW/FTP/POP and maybe some other network applications. I was wondering what your suggestions would be for Partitions. I have already ready the Partition HOWTO, but still aren't quite sure what partitions would be best for my applications. It depends on a number of things; what you'll be using the box for, how reliable it needs to be, how much space you have to throw around, how experienced you are, how much the box's uses will change over time, and a host of other things. Most people I run in to drastically over-partition their hard drive. Five, six, even seven partitions for one running Linux system. Now, that's not to say it isn't useful - espeically in high-demand environments. However, until you get a good feel for how much space the different directories will be taking, I suggest you make three partitions. One swap partition, one root partition, and one /home partition. Only reformat the root partition when you re-install your OS(if you ever do). David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Linux Partitions
To quote ktb [EMAIL PROTECTED], # I would add /var to this list. The reason being is if you run something # like squid and don't manage it right it will bring your system down if # it grows too large. Maybe with todays large HD's it doesn't matter as # much but I've had it happen. Log files can get large also. Course if # you are on top of it there isn't a problem but not everyone is, # especially in the beginning:) In addition take a look at - # http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue54/stoddard.html # There is a little section on partitioning for a gateway. There are good # reasons for having more than 3 partitions. That's the entire point - if you run something like squid and don't manage it right ... *IF* you run *something like squid*. When you over-partition, you *really* screw up versatility. Until they know what they're using their system for, versatility is key. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: galeon..
To quote Hall Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Isn't galeon just a front-end for mozilla ?? If so, the memory leak # will likely still be there. By the way, you do know that galeon # *requires* mozilla to be installed, right ?? Hoping to avoid starting a flamewar here, Mozilla isn't a browser. It's more than a browser. It's damned near its own platform. If it was just a browser, which is what most Linux people want, it'd be dead before it ever hit the market. IE is a browser, and it's a good one - there's relatively little over IE that Mozilla could offer if it was just a browser. Anyways, Galeon just uses Gecko, the Mozilla rendering engine. Since Mozilla has a pretty darned fast(and relatively complete) rendering engine, this is a good thing. Mozilla is slow mostly in the UI department(and boy, is it SLOW!). Galeon is GTK+/GNOME based, of course, and it's quite a bit faster. It doesn't use XUL nor does it generate all its interfaces on the fly(actually, I think it uses libglade, so that's no quite right). I'd say it's at least as fast as Netscape, and definetly faster than Konqueror. It's not quite feature-complete yet, but it's getting there. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: galeon..
To quote Roberto Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Please some help? Mozilla leaks a ton of memory... I don't think Galeon is available for Potato, anywhere. Sorry. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: apt-get feature question
To quote James Lindenschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED], # My question is, could we put a flag in apt-get that specifies whether we want # stable or unstable? Something like this: apt-get install unstable foo? Since it's generally very unsafe to install testing/unstable binaries on a Potato system(or mixing binaries of any of the distributions, for that matter), I'd like to amend this suggestion to the following: 'apt-get install unstable foo' Compiles package foo(therefore lessening the chances of major breakage), and all the unstable dependancies that foo requires. If any of the dependancies are met by your native distribution, they should be installed in binary form, without compiling. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: galeon..
To quote Roberto Diaz [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Is what they say in their official site... My apologize; you're right. It's not for stock Potato, though, the dependencies for the Potato Galeon .deb looks like XFree 4.0.1 was installed(search google, or add deb http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha/ xf401_potato/i386/ to your sources.list). David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: du and df not in sync?
To quote Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED], # du reports 110M in / filesystem and df reports 649M used - that's # quite a difference. I have just ran apt-get clean (before that df # reported 97% used on /), is it possible that df does not use up to date # info? Is there anything I need to do before df reports current state # (which I think is 110M used)? You could try to 'sync' before the 'df'. I imagine that would clean up the discrepancy. However, this does seem like a big - you might want to contact the appropriate people(in this case, the 'df' author(s)). David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: X troubles (serious) with testing/woody
To quote RAccess [EMAIL PROTECTED], # P.S. As topic indicates, this is a woody/testing box. Unless I'm mistaken, you can use the task-x-window-system package to install X. Since you've uninstalled everything, this is probably your safest bet. Keep in mind there are, as of yet, no GUI tools to configure XFree 4.0.x. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Unable to install LILO
To quote John Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED], # I've tried following Debian's suggestion to place a # small /boot partition at the beginning of the disk, # but that hasn't helped, either. Has anyone run into # and been able to fix this? Please include your lilo.conf and any errors you received. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: fstab entry for cd-rw device?
Try adding the following parameters to your kernel: ignore=hdc hdc=ide-scsi You can do this with lilo.conf's: append=ignore=hdc hdc=ide-scsi Or right at the boot prompt. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: directory size?
To quote Mike Egglestone [EMAIL PROTECTED], # How do you find how big a directory is? The 'du' command is probably what you're looking for. The '-h', '-c', and '--max-depth=1' are popular options. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Magic cookies and running programs under X as root
To quote Christopher R. Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED], # I guess tonight I finally want to get around to figuring out how to stop this # from happening. What do I do so I can run programs as root? There are two solutions, that I know of. 'xhost' changes the access controls for the $DISPLAY under which it's run. 'xhost +' removes all protection - anyone can access your display. 'xhost +localhost' lets only local users(but any of those) access your display. You're probably looking for the second option. 'man xhost' for more information. The second way I know how to do it is to set $XAUTHORITY to the user's(the one who started the X session) ~/.Xauthority. So, my login is david, I start an X session, 'su' to root, and then: export XAUTHORITY=/home/david/.Xauthority If that .Xauthority file is readable by the user who wants to open a connection(in your case, it's root, so you know it's readable), then X will accept the connection. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: About Debian documentation
To quote Dr. Aldo Medina [EMAIL PROTECTED], # For example, Why are so many packages from older version of programs. # For example X-chat, wwwoffle ,ncftp and even XFree's packages are from # very old versions of the actual programs. # I believe dpkg is the absolute best in terms of packaging system (I come # from RedHat's rpm). That's why I think twice to install a new non-deb # version of some program, even when I need some of the new features (like # XFree 4). So what do you recommend? Debian is split up into three distributions: Potato/stable, Woody/testing, Sid/unstable. Potato is the stable distribution, and is generally meant for servers. When you install Potato, you can be sure that nothing will be changed out from underneath you. You can run 'apt-get update apt-get upgrade' without worry. Woody/testing and Sid/unstable are generally what people run on their desktops. Woody is safer than Sid, in that new/updated packages are uploaded to the Sid repositories before they're automatically added to Woody(a few conditions have to be met; the package in Sid can't have been updated for at least two weeks, the package in Sid has to have a lesser or equal number of bugs, and a few other things). Woody is actually fairly up-to-date. glibc 2.2, GNOME 1.2, KDE2, lots of goodies. XFree86 4.0.x hasn't made it in, and the Linux kernel 2.4.0 hasn't been packaged yet. Sid has XFree86 4.0.2, but the kernel is still 2.2.x. However, you can upgrade to 2.4.0 easily(if you run Sid). So, if you want more recent packages, you should change all references to stable or potato in your /etc/apt/sources.list to either testing or unstable. You can also add a deb-src line in your /etc/apt/sources.list pointing to unstable. Then, whenever you 'apt-get source package', you'll be getting the unstable version of that package. You can then use 'dpkg-buildpackage -uc -b' (as root, in the directory(ies) created by the 'apt-get source') to get binary .debs for your system. This isn't a guaranteed solution, but it has always worked for me. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Upgrade process halted
To quote Brian Furry [EMAIL PROTECTED], # How do you find out which packages are not mission critical vs which ones # are optional so the non-essential packages could be purged to allow the # upgrade to # finish. There are some semi-automated tools to do this(deborphan comes to mind), but there's no substitude for system administrator knowledge. Your best bet would be to use a tool like 'dselect' or 'stormpkg', to go through the list of installed packages, reading the titles and descriptions, and deciding which ones you need, and which ones you can chuck out the window. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: about stable and unstable
To quote Xucaen [EMAIL PROTECTED], # I am running stable as my primary operating # system. I needed something stable to learn from. # and actually I am very happy with it so far. # (even tho I have been posting like a mad man! # ;-) Good plan. :) # On that note, is testing available on CD, or # perhaps I should simply upgrade to testing from # stable? comments? suggestions?? No CDs are available, you just install a base Potato system, then 'apt-get -fu dist-upgrade' after editing your /etc/apt/sources.list . It's usually a bumpy ride. # ahhh.. so maybe this is how I can do it? # will this upgrade stable to testing? Or upgrade # stable to unstable? which is more fun to play # with? :-) 'testing' is probably what you want. Whether you upgrade to testing or unstable is detemined by whether you reference testing or unstable in /etc/apt/sources.list. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: kernel 2.4 woes
To quote [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Dear All, # # Having successfully compiled 2.4 for my desktop PC (a Compaq Deskpro # w/ 500 mhz Penium), I decided to do the same for my laptop (compaq # armada with 233 mhz mmx). Everything seemed to be going happily until # I tried to boot (after editing lilo.conf and running lilo -v), # whereupon the computer loaded the kernel, announced 'Ok, booting the # kernel', and stopped dead in its tracks. I have the uptodate versions # of ppp, modutils and so forth, and am (against advice) compiling under # gcc 2.95, which produced no problems on the desktop machine. # # Has this happened to anyone else. Any advice? I was tempted to think # that it was something wrong with lilo, until I noticed that the # version on the laptop was actually more recent than the desktop, Double-check that the CPU type is set properly in the kernel config. It defaults to Pentium III, and I forgot to set it to what I wanted a few times ;) David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: fstab entry for cd-rw device?
To quote Osamu Aoki [EMAIL PROTECTED], # If you know way to use CD-RW disk on /dev/scd0 with harddisk like # R/W access, let me know. I am sceptical though. There is currently a patch available for the kernel which allows just that. I am not completely sure of the name, but I know it's hosted on Sourceforge, and it has something to do with packet-writing and UDF :) Hope that helps. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: diskless gateway/firewall ?
To quote Chris Majewski [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Anyone have experience with diskless installations? Any suggestions/hints? I strongly recomment the Linux Router Project which, if I'm not mistaken, was at some point a descendant of Debian(but I'm not sure). Check out http://www.linuxrouter.org , or http://lrp.c0wz.com . The second(notice the 0(zero) there) seems to be more up-to-date, and has many resources. Alternatively, you could use Coyote Linux(dunno URL, check freshmeat). It's LRP-based, and I've had success with this. Easy to set up. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Help! How to find ext2fs on disk
To quote Christian Pernegger [EMAIL PROTECTED], # The file system must still be valid, save for the first superblock # perhaps - how can I find its beginning and end? I'd just like to get # the data out... Check out 'gpart'. I know it's apt-gettable from Debian unstable, and I'm sure a google/freshmeat search will turn up the homepage. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: xinitrc isn't being read??
To quote Xucaen [EMAIL PROTECTED], # I created ~/.xsession and added the line Try 'chmod +x ~/.xsession'. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Console question (2x)
To quote Brooks R. Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED], # # Incidentally, X uses the next free tty. So if you have 'getty's up to # tty11, X will be on tty12. # # I was under the impression that X had tty7 hardcoded into it (or was that # xdm?) Nope, neither. It just uses the next available tty. From 'X --help', you can see that there's an option: vtXX use the specified VT number So, you could even force it to use a particular tty. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: ~/.xsession causes X to restart (infinite loop)
To quote Xucaen [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Hi all.. # here's what's happening: # I created ~/.xsession and it causes X to restart # immediately upon login (I type my password, hit # return(enter) and poof! the screen flickers and # I'm prompted again for user name and password) # # I've tried about 5 different variations of the # contents of ~/.xsession, including all lines # commented out. You know, it *might* be useful to include your .xsession. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: SOLVED: Re: ~/.xsession causes X to restart (infinite loop)
To quote Xucaen [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Hi all.. # thanks foir all your help, because of you I # figured it out. # # for some reason, fvwm starts automatically (I # haven't figured out why) # and when I created my .xsession, fvwm no longer # loaded, so I had to load it myself from my # .xsession script. # so now my last line of my .xsession is: # exec fvwm # and all is well. :-) # # does anyone know why creating .xsession causes # fvwm to NOT load anymore? I'd really like to know # why There is something like a default .xsession . Now, if you have your own, it doesn't run that one, it runs yours. If it tried to run the default one too, you might end up having two window managers fighting over the desktop, and things like that. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: apt-get install / remove / install looses files
To quote hanasaki [EMAIL PROTECTED], # I did an: # # apt-get install squid # messed some things up # apt-get remove squid # rm /etc/squid.conf since it was left behind # apt-get install squid # # /etc/squid.conf was not installed this time. # # How do i get squid to fully install again? 'dpkg -r --purge squid' or maybe just 'dpkg --purge squid'. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: [Fwd: ~New~ installation questions]
To quote C-Cose Masters [EMAIL PROTECTED], # I'm about to re-install Stormix Hail after several unsuccessful attempts to # install and upgrade the Rain version. I've also invested in VMware, so I will be # completely formatting my HD, and installing W98 as a Guest OS through VM. As # this will be my ?teenth attempt at installing debian, I'd like to get some # advice from all the gurus out there. I'm only speaking for myself, and not for everyone here. But this is debian-user. You're using a Storm Linux, a commercial distribution. Don't you think you should contact your vendor for support? David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: internet connection sharing
To quote Omar Shuja Siddiqui [EMAIL PROTECTED], # hi # i have recently installed a network of to Linux boxes. # one of them is a working dial up machine. i want to # share the internet connection with the other Linux box # also. please tell me what is the whole procedure for # doing this. There is very good documentation available for this. Check out http://www.linuxdoc.org . You want the IP Masquerading HOWTO or something like that. It's a fairly involved procedure. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Cant create module dependencies
To quote Hammurabi Mendes [EMAIL PROTECTED], # I was using the default kernel of potato, but after I installed 2.4.0, # I can't build my modules.dep file for this kernel version, even # using depmod -a. (The system automatically does that in the boot # process too). # In fact, the file is created, *empty*. I'm worried because I would need # that dependencies to use modprobe and run sound modules on demand. Read Documentation/Changes in the kernel source tree. It'll tell you what versions of which packages(like modutils) that you need. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Console question (2x)
To quote RAccess [EMAIL PROTECTED], # 1. I have heard that its possible to run console in multiple resolutions. # How do I do this in debian, specifically? One way is to compile framebuffer support into your kernel. Read /path/to/linux/source/Documentation/fb/* . Probably vesafb.txt . # 2. How can I have more console windows than the default 6? I want to bump # up tty7 and above used for X. Also, what happens if I want more terminals # than 12? There are only 12 function keys! Take a look at /etc/inittab . You'll see a bunch of lines that look like: 6:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty6 Add new lines, simply changing the very first and the very last numbers, like: 7:23:respawn:/sbin/getty 38400 tty7 That'll give you a seventh console. Continue to taste :) As far as having more than 12, I don't know about that. Maybe using left alt will allow you to use another set. But why would you want so many? Incidentally, X uses the next free tty. So if you have 'getty's up to tty11, X will be on tty12. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Still no Konqueror kookies w/o KDE running in Sid
To quote Steve Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED], # I'm up to the KDE 2.1-beta2-2 binaries and Konqueror still ignores cookies # unless the KDE environment is running. # # Should I clear out my KDE settings or is it just not fixed yet? Is it # definitely reported as a bug to kde.org? I've already reported it to http://www.debian.org/Bugs/ , and I imagine the KDE2 maintainer has already forwarded it to the KDE2 developers. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Compiling X4.0.2
To quote Joris Lambrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED], # now we're at it, where does one get the Debian Packaged distribution for # Xfree86 4.0.2 ? I can't remember off the top of my head, by all you need to do is add a line to your /etc/apt/sources.list . Search Google for deb http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha; or somesuch. I'm pretty sure that's how the sources.list line started. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: mkisofs
To quote Benjamin Pharr [EMAIL PROTECTED], # I'm trying to make an iso of a directory structure on my hard drive using # mkisofs. I have Rock Ridge and Joliet enabled (along with a few other # things), but it gives me an error saying the files with the same name, but # in different directories have the same Rock Ridge name. Then it says # Unable to sort directory. Anybody know what is going on? Since people seems to be putting down Joilet and Rock Ridge, I figured I'd mention that I've successfully created numerous images where both types of extensions were enabled. Never had any errors, though :( David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Debian Newbie
To quote Vittorio De Martino [EMAIL PROTECTED], # I've been using RedHat 6.2 and 7.0 for about a year and now I think I'm ready # to have a go at some other Linux distro. Being fascinated by Debian # stability and real Open Source nature I put the following straightforward # preliminary questions: # Migrating to Debian potato can I have a USB working # support (for an Epson scanner) as I have now automatically set up under # RH7? # Is there any user-friendly utility to setup X (I'm using KDE2 at this very # moment)? As of now, the kernel which will be installed on your system would be 2.2.20.0.1-2000-12-03. I have no idea what that is :) I know that it's more recent than 2.2.18pre21, which was what it was the last time I installed Debian. So you'll have USB support. As far as a user-friendly utility to set up X, I don't know. There's XF86Setup, that comes with XFree86 3.3.6. I find that fairly intuitive. If you upgrade to 4.0.1(or 2), there's a walkthrough shell script(xf86config) which'll get you started. However, you might need to manually tinker with the XF86Config-4 file. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: This is too strange.
To quote Bill Shui [EMAIL PROTECTED], # You don't exist, go away! # # I have checked my /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow files. # they are in the right format. I don't know what's going on, but if you reboot, you can get into a shell by adding init=/bin/bash as a parameter to your kernel. For instance, at the LILO prompt, you could type: linux init=/bin/bash Which would drop you to a bash shell, without asking you to log in. As far as not existing, double-check that there's a root account in /etc/passwd. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Compiling X4.0.2
To quote Joris Lambrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED], # that would be http://people.debian.org/~branden/woody BUT this is a # pre-lease version that was distributed there temporarly. # # I'm looking for the real thing. # # That's in the dists/pool but i'm not sure on how to get it out of there with # dselect and/or apt. That isn't what I was meant. Go to http://people.debian.org/~cpbotha , and you can see that they've got both XFree86 4.0.1 and 4.0.2 there, packaged for Potato. If you want the real thing, you can either upgrade to Sid(unstable), or temporarily add a deb-src line pointing to unstable and then apt-get source X packages. Compile from there. I wouldn't suggest it, though. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: (sans sujet)
To quote [EMAIL PROTECTED], # je voudrais svp les drivers de la cartes jazzmultimedia rush 3d adrenaline # pour windows # 98 2nd edition # je vous remercis d avance. Cete liste est pour Debian Linux, alors ce n'est pas un place ou vous demand des questions du Windows. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: adding Windoze
To quote Glenn Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Although it grieves me to say so, there are a couple of Windows-only apps # I'd love to run ... specifically the XML IDE XMLSpy, and a couple of # Chinese-language applications. If you're willing to do a little work, you might consider Win4Lin. Nice app, I've used it before. Runs Windows in a window, at near-native speed. It doesn't quite support everything, though(like DriectX), but for what you can run(almost any app), it does it well. Aside from that, you might consider making a LILO diskette. Just do 'lilo -b /dev/fd0', reboot, and double-check that it works. Then you can let Windows overwrite your MBR, boot into Linux using the LILO diskette, add a lilo.conf entry for Windows, re-run LILO(without the -b /dev/fd0 option), and there ya go. :) LILO in the MBR, Windows in its place. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Compiling X4.0.2
To quote Cameron Matheson [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Hey, # # I just compiled X4, but after I did make install install.log I checked the log, and it bailed because I don't have -lz. What package is this library in? (or where can I download it?). Also, I'm trying to install emacs, X, etc. Someone told me I could if I put the packages on hold, but it still won't let me install without install xfree86-common/xlib6g. Please help me. 'z' is probably zlib. I've got the zlib1g and zlib1g-dev packages, which are probably what you'r looking for. Incidentally, you shouldn't compile from source if there's a package available for what you want(and, of course, XFree86 is packaged). If you *must* compile from source, then do it with a source package, 'apt-get source package(s)', then go into whichever directory it created, and do a 'dpkg-buildpackage -uc -b'(as root). If you need a package out of unstable, make a deb-src entry in sources.list pointing to Unstable, and then do the above process for it. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Can't run freshly compiled X
To quote Cameron Matheson [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Hey, # # I just finished compiling X4.0.2, but now when I try to run it, it says: # # Fatal server error: # could not open default font 'fixed' a) Used packaged wherever possible. Compiled-from-source packages are are *much* better than just doing a './configure; make; make install'. b) You need the xfonts-base package. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: No available ptys
To quote USM Bish [EMAIL PROTECTED], # drwxr-xr-x rootroot0 Jan 21 13:08:32 2001 pts Looks like you're running 2.4.0, with devfs enables and mounted. Don't use devfs unless you're read the documentation(not sure where it is, check /usr/src/linux/Documentation ). David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: 2 kernels on the same machine
To quote Philipp Bliedung [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Hi, # Can I use two kernels (for example 2.4 and 2.2.17) on the same machine? # I mean can I use kernel 2.2.17 as the normal kernel I boot with and # then still compile kernels in the 2.4 version (not for this computer but # for others) - or will with cause more problems than it would solve? :) # Will there be any problem when I have two kernel sources in /usr/src? # Will there be any conflicts with the modules of either version? # Does anybody know any site where I can find information about this? Yes and no. You can have more than one kernel stored on a machine at any one time, and with some special software, you can even have more than one kernel *running* at the same time. Watch how you compile your kernel, though. Don't use 'make install' or anything that'll install anything anywhere(except maybe 'make modules_install'). To make the kernel, just do 'make bzImage'. Not 'make install' or 'make lilo' or anything like it. Your kernel will be in /usr/src/linux-version, or wherever you unpacked the source/arch/i386/boot/bzImage(assuming you're on an Intel-compat machine. Now, I don't know if you can compile kernels for other machines without some special work. For instance, if your other machine(s) are different architectures(ie: PowerPC as opposed to Intel-compat), then you'll have to set up a cross-compiling environment. There are other concerns, though, even if your host architecture(where you build the kernel) and target architecture(where the kernel will be used) are the same. Try it to find out, though :) David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Krumbled konqueror kookies (new Sid version ignores cookies!)
To quote Steve Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED], # When I let dselect upgrade my kde packages on Jan. 18th Konqueror stopped # handling cookies. I had the same problem, and I filed a bug report on it. Konqueror uses cookies fine when 'startkde' is running(ie: then entire KDE destop), but not when it's run standalone. Hopefully it'll be fixed for the next update. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Driver for DSL Modem
To quote Ken Weingold [EMAIL PROTECTED], # AFAIK, all Linux would need to support is the NIC. Does BellSouth use # pppoe? If so, Roaring Penguin's pppoe for Linux is AWESOME. Painless # install. If indeed it's just a NIC. Sounds like it's an internal(PCI) ADSL modem. Not a standalone box. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: possible move to unstable..
To quote Marcial Zamora III [EMAIL PROTECTED], # hey all.. I know this mite stir up a great deal of debate, but its not my intention.. Im currently running potato, and thinking bout running unstable.. there are quite a few packages I would like to have in unstable, and I know ahead of time, to successfully install those packages, there are others in the same directory tree that I would need.. from wut I have seen in the entries in the mailing list so far, unstable is not really that *unstable*. The only real concern I think I would have is the move from Xfree86 3.3.6 to 4.0.2.. any of you guys have any input on this ? or any recommendations as to wut to do ahead of time, before I decided to go with a dist-upgrade ? to all who respond, I thank you in advance =) Well, there are a few things you can do; a) Add a deb-src entry in sources.list pointing to unstable, then 'apt-get source package that you want', then go into the newly created directory and(as root) 'dpkg-buildpackage -uc -b'. That'll give you a nice binary .deb built for your platform. This isn't guaranteed to work(since you're compiling a Sid package on a Potato machine), but it's always worked for me. b) Upgrade to Sid(unstable). It runs fine on my machine, but there are two things you should worry about: the upgrading process itself seems to be touchy - so you might run into trouble there. If you jump that hurdle though, you're probably set. The second thing is that you should be familiar with system recovery. For instance, a new LILO package was uploaded to Sid recently, and it made more than one machine unbootable. So, you should be able to restore things on your own. Also keep backups. :) Also, if something breaks, people are much less likely to sympathize with you, since you're running Sid(unstable), and you should know better ;) c) Upgrade to Woody(testing). Woody is the new in-between distribution, which is supposed to be more stable then Sid. For instance, the broken LILO package never made it into Woody. This is what I suggest to most people who ask about the different versions. Woody/testing is a nice compromise - you get relatively up-to-date packages, and your system isn't nearly as likely to die because of it. Currently, Woody is using XFree86 3.3.6, so if you upgrade to Woody, you won't need to worry about 4.0.2 yet. Hopefully, by the time 4.0.2 gets into Woody, a nicer setup program will exist(since the 3.3.6 and 4.0.2 config files are vastly different). Right now, there's 'xf86config', which is an admirable stop-gap measure, but it's not right for at least 60% or the users out there. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: gnome-session messed up in Woody?
To quote Pollywog [EMAIL PROTECTED], # # I have a problem starting gnome-session in Woody. # Formerly, I just had # # exec gnome-session # # in my ~/.xinitrc but now I also have to put # # panel # # in .xinitrc or I don't get the panel. Is anyone else having this # problem with helix-gnome in Woody? Can't say as I have. But maybe if you Save Session in Foot Menu - Settings - Session, it'll save the panel for you(and if you do that, be sure to remove 'panel ' from your .xinitrc, or it will whine very loudly). David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Fw: Re: gnome-session messed up in Woody?
To quote Pollywog [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Thanks, that did the trick. I must have fried the settings when my # machine locked up a few sessions ago. I find 'gnome-session' buggy. For quite a long time, I've been running without it. When I was using the panel, I just added 'panel ' to my .xinitrc(actually, not that, but an equivalent). I set my background in the same script. I set everything that 'gnome-session' would normally do manually, and I havn't looked back since. I notice that the system is generally more responsive. However, it should be noted that things like mouse settings and keyboard repeat rates can't be set in the Gnome Control Center if you don't use 'gnome-session'. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: apt-get update from cron?
To quote Jonathan D. Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED], # In this context I've been kicking around the idea of running # apt-get update /dev/null apt-get -qq -y upgrade # from /etc/cron.daily # # I'm wondering if anyone else is doing this and what the experience has # been. I guess it depends on which Debian distribution you track, and how much you trust the packagers. I'd consider doing that on my home desktop computer(but I don't), but I would never think about setting it up on all the workstations at work. Too much risk. However, if you made your own little apt repository, and made all the workstations' sources.lists point there instead of the regular Debian ones, you can test packages before you put them on the workstations. When you're sure they're done, drop them into your local repository, and off they go. # I'm somewhat concerned that this may happen from cron as well, but # these systems will be intel boxen with heads (atleast mostly). It's never a good thing to wholly automate workstation upgrades. You should at least check the packages yourself, and *then* let the workstations have them. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: apt-get update from cron?
To quote Jonathan D. Proulx [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Is there a way to tell apt-get to do an upgrade from limited sources # (my local repository), without juggling /etc/apt/sources.list (I could # move it swap in a different safe version, update, upgrade, swap # back) Well, you'd set up your testing workstation(s) with a regular sources.list, pointing to the regular Debian repositories. 'apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade' them manually, and check for problems. Now, for the bulk of your workstations, I'd make their sources.list contain only one line; the line pointing to your own server. On that server, you'd have a repository(complete with Packages.gz and friends) which would have the packages you know are good. I don't know how to make such a repository, but I'm sure the tools are around. Packages[.gz] has to be generated somehow ;) That way, you can make the bulk of your workstations 'apt-get update apt-get -qq -y upgrade'(or whatever flags you prefer) nightly, automatically, and you can be sure the install will go well. # The other alternative is a flat NFS directory with .debs for security # fixes and a dpkg --selected-only --skip-same-version # --refuse-downgrade --install /deb/repository/* in cron. For a quick fix, that's what I'd do right there. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: cant compile gtk theme
To quote Marcial Zamora III [EMAIL PROTECTED], # hey all. im tryin to install a gtk theme from source, and am getting this error: # # checking for gtk-config... no # checking for GTK - version = 1.2.0... no # *** The gtk-config script installed by GTK could not be found # *** If GTK was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in # *** your path, or set the GTK_CONFIG environment variable to the # *** full path to gtk-config. # configure: error: *** GTK 1.2 not installed - please install first *** # # I am running potato, and do have libgtk1.2 installed, along with gtk-engines-pixmaps package as well.. # any ideas ? new to debian, so any input would be appreciated =) There are lots of extra things you need to compile. Headers, little config programs, you name it, it's required. Rather than include all those extra things in the libgtk1.2 package, it's seperated - libgtk1.2-dev is what you're looking for. So, to compile an app that uses libgtk1.2 , you'll need libgtk1.2-dev . This is the same for most library-like packages - they'll also have a -dev package which you can use to compile apps that use that library. Incidentally, compiling and installing from source into your regular system is generally not a good idea. You should seperate those packages which you compile and install yourself. Add something like '--prefix=/extras --sysconfdir=/extras/etc' to the ./configure command. That'll likely keep the package management system happy. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: X config errors, boot issues
To quote D-Man [EMAIL PROTECTED], # # I have a couple of issues to resolve now with my Debian installation: # # 1) I commented out the tulip module in /etc/modules, but when I boot # it still tries to config eth0. This is currently a problem (I must # wait for it to time-out) because I moved my computer and have no # ethernet network available now. How can I make it not load the # module? Check /etc/network/interfaces - there's probably still an entry there for eth0. Try commenting it out(the entire section that deals with eth0). # 2) I have a zip drive, /dev/hdd. I told it not to mount a boot-time # in /etc/fstab. It doesn't, but if a disk isn't in when the kernel # does the Partition Check, it will sit in an infinite lost interrupt # loop. Even if I put a disk in, it won't work until I force a reboot. # When I had RH6.1 this wasn't a problem (I think kernel 2.2.12) -- it # would try the check, get a time out and then ignore the disk. (I # could mount a disk later with no trouble) When I upgraded to RH7 # (kernel 2.2.16) the problem began. Debian (Potato) has the same # problem (kernel 2.2.18, normal). How can I have the startup ignore # the zip drive if no disk is present? (IDE drive) Other then having noauto as an option to the entry in /etc/fstab , I dunno. # 3) X looks horrible and GNOME has problems. I copied my XF86Config # file from RH7 which was a copy form RH6.1 which worked great in both # RH's. In Debian the startup screen (gdm) looks ugly (seems to be low # res and low color). When I log in (all dot files copied from RH # system) my background (wallpaper) looks fine -- right size and color. # XMMS looks fine too. Gnome-terminal is huge with a large # coarse-grained font. Gnome-panel segfaults repeatedly on startup. # With my RH system I had upgraded to a much newer version of gnome-*. # Could this be the cause of my problems (as in newer config files not # being understood)? It could be any number of things, all resolving around the config files :) Could be that they're too new - could be that they're trying to access panel applets that you havn't got installed any more. You name it, it's possible. # 4) Also, it is rather ridiculous to have to log in to halt or reboot # the computer. How can I add the Shutdown/Restart option to gdm? Don't know about that - maye you need a newer version of GDM? David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: apt-move question/problem
To quote John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Hi. I have two machines and I would like to avoid downloading the # same debian packages for each one since I have a slow connection. I # want to use apt-move to make a mirror out of one machine and use it # for both machines to avoid duplicate downloads. # # I did get it working (sort of), but I want to mirror both the unstable # and the unstable/non-us distributions -- can I do this or is there a # better way to go about this? I had the same issue, but all I did was export the /var/cache/apt/archives/ through NFS, and then the other machine would mount it as their own. Pretty simple, and it seems to work. Everything was then shared. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Problem installing Debian.
To quote [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefan Möller), # After rebooting the system, my computer restarts after the message: # 'warning: unable to open an initial console' I can't solve your problem, but I might be able to point you in the right direction. The only time I've ever seen that error what when I accidentally hosed /dev (completely, all files were gone). David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: how NOT to start x-session but x-window-manager instead
To quote Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED], # I would like to start up x-window-manager instead. How to properly # configure this in debian? remove all alternatives for # x-session-manager? If you're using 'startx', you can edit your ~/.xinitrc , and make it executable(if it isn't already). It's a regular script - #!/bin/sh or whatever else you'd like ;) So, if you wanted to use KDE2, it'd look like: #!/bin/sh exec startkde And there ya go ;) For me, it's rather more complex, as I use Sawfish standalone, but for GNOME it'd be: #!/bin/sh exec gnome-sessionn And unless I'm wrong, you should be able to use whatever program you want for ~/.xinitrc . Maybe I'll use some Python, play for a bit ;) David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Why choose Debian?
To quote Bill Wohler [EMAIL PROTECTED], # 1) The package manager. Speaking of packages, I think this should be raised. In general, I find that the quality of Debian packages is better than most others. Why? With most distributions, managers are forced to make a compromise - spend more time packaging very popular software, and less time packaging less popular software, or spread out the available resources for all packages. For the former, you'll end up with some very good packages, but you'll also end up with lots more that are mediocre, at best. In the latter case, you'll end up with a bunch of mediocre packages. When you pay your packagers and rely on those packagers for your distribution, you have finite resources to work with. Debian is really a community - in essence, a community of packagers. While there are only a few dozen dedicated packagers(who will package anything and everything, and things that everyone uses, like libc and such), there are hundreds of packagers who only package the program(s) they want to. The ones they use, day to day. What you end up with is a nice, even quality to the packages. The less-popular packages are still packaged by someone who uses it - they'll give just as much attention to detail with their pet package as someone who's packaging 'util-linux' or 'file-utils' would. The best of both worlds - you have a good, solid, base system of well-packaged popular software, and you have hundreds(thousands!) of other less-popular software packaged to the same standards and quality. There is also the issue of updating. A distribution maker must expend enourmous resources into making the next version of their distribution. They also must expend resources to keep their most current distribution up-to-date with the rest of the world. Let's look at Red Hat for an example. Aside from security fixes, when was the last time you were able to update to the latest GNOME desktop, using packages specifically designed for your distribution's version, from you distribuion vendor? Not very often, I can tell you. And they can't be blamed for that, either. For some things, it can be a near-full-time job for twenty or thrity packages. Considering a modern Linux distribution comes with thousands of packages, this is obviously a time-consuming prospect. Now, the single-package Debian Maintainer probably wants to have the latest usable version of his pet program. Since they will most likely want it in packaged format, they'll make a package of it. Since they've made a package of it, they'll likely upload it to a Debian repository(destined for the unstable branch of Debian, of course). Tada! Everyone now has access to that new, updated program, straight from the maintainer who originally packaged it(or, a new maintainer if the old maintainer decided to give up the reins[sp?]). I'm rambling a bit. Sorry, I'm tired. Maybe I'll write an essay :) David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: how NOT to start x-session but x-window-manager instead
To quote Erik Steffl [EMAIL PROTECTED], # I know I can do it that way (for xdm or startx) but I don't want to # completely override nice debian system of startup... we have these # x-session-managers and x-window-managers etc. and I would like to learn # how to work within this system, I now how to use update-alternatives to # use one or another x-session-manager or x-window-manager but how to # choose x-window-manager over x-session-manager during X startup - that's # a question. brief poking around shows no obvious way to do it other then # remove all the x-session-manager alternatives... not very elegant... You're right. That's very ugly. :) You didn't mention, though, how you start X. Do you concistently use any graphical login manager(s)? Which one(s)? Or do you tend to use 'startx'? David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: can't ssh into box anymore
To quote John F. Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Hello # # I tried to connect to the box from a machine which I have never # used as a client before. It failed also. Please be more specific with your problem. What versions of SSH are on each machine? What operating systems are on each machine? Include any relevant configuration files as attachments(so long as they're not huge). P.S.: I'm betting you're trying to log in as root. If this is the case, then you must un-comment the PermitRootLogin yes line in /etc/ssh/sshd_config . David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: expand the man page ??
To quote Marcial Zamora III [EMAIL PROTECTED], # hey wusup yall ? recently converted from using Red Crap for a year, and am loving debian so far =) # I use a res of 1280x1024 in X.. when I open rxvt, and then a man page inside it, the man page only takes up half of the width of the terminal.. # or thereabouts anyway.. is there somethin I can change in an rcfile somewhere, to where it will auto expand to take up the full width ? # by the way, apt-get rules =) I'm actually curious about this too :) Never did think to ask, though ;) David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Can't use X as root
To quote Ray Percival [EMAIL PROTECTED], # When I try to launch a X application as root it tells me the # client can not connect to the server. It is a stock 2.2 X install # does anyone have any thoughts on the subject? Thanks Ray You can either: a) As the user who started the X session, run 'xhost +localhost'. It is very important that this is run by the user who started the session :) b) Set the XAUTHORITY variable to /home/user who started session/.Xauthority . For instance, 'set XAUTHORITY=/home/user/.Xauthority; export XAUTHORITY'. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: cdrecord problems
To quote Benjamin Pharr [EMAIL PROTECTED], # I'm still having difficulties getting my cd writer to work. Here is what # I've done so far: # # Recompiled my (2.4.0) kernel with scsi-emulation and scsi # support. IDE-CDROM support is compiled in statically. # # 1. apt-get install cdrecord # 2. Added append=hdd=ide-scsi to my /etc/lilo.conf # 3. Ran lilo # 4. Added alias scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi to /etc/modutils/aliases # 5. Ran update-modules # # When I reboot everything seems to load just fine, no errors or anything. I # get the following messages at boot time: # # . . . # ide_setup: hdd=ide-scsi # . . . # hdd: SAMSUNG CD-R/RW SW-408B, ATAPI CDROM drive # # When I run cdrecord -scanbus I still get no devices. If I comment out # the append in lilo.conf hdd is mentioned once more at boot time, so # something is happening, I'm just not sure what. Can anyone help me get # this thing fixed? Thanks in advance! Before people start telling you to not compile-in IDE-CDROM support, to start adding lines to lilo.conf etc., here's what I did; In the appropriate section of lilo.conf, I added: append = ignore=hdd hdd=ide-scsi The ignore=hdd tells the IDE code to ignore HDD. Trust me, it works. I know you're probably pissed at everyone else telling you to do different things, but please try this. It should work. If it doesn't, *please* let me know. :) David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: MUA Blues in X
To quote Joris Lambrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Do i REALLY have to install kde to get something close to say outlook # express (i know, i know, but it beats any linux mua i've seen) No, you don't - not in my experience. Currently, for me, Sylpheed is in the sweet spot. It has all the features I use(filtering, newgroup reading/posting, multiple account support, etc., etc.), and none of the features I don't work(calandering, HTML, you name it). Check it out. It's GTK+ based, not GNOME-based, so you don't have to install too much. GTK+, of course. :) David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: MUA Blues in X
To quote Cliff Sarginson [EMAIL PROTECTED], # To quote Joris Lambrecht [EMAIL PROTECTED], # # Do i REALLY have to install kde to get something close to say outlook # # express (i know, i know, but it beats any linux mua i've seen) # # No, you don't - not in my experience. # # Currently, for me, Sylpheed is in the sweet spot. It has all the # features I use(filtering, newgroup reading/posting, multiple account # support, etc., etc.), and none of the features I don't work(calandering, # HTML, you name it). # # Only problem is it uses MH mail format... :( Depending on why you think that's a problem, it might not be ;) I've long hated mail apps that munge my stuff. If it's in 'mbox' format, leave it alone. :) Anyways, check out the 'nmh' package. It has lots of tools used with MH-format directories. Very useful. Procmail also support MH-format folders too. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: fetching source/recompiling all my packages
To quote [EMAIL PROTECTED],
# It might, but if it does, it won't do it cleanly. It's not really
# designed for it.
#
# dpkg -l|awk '{print $2}'
#
# can't be made part of a script, because dpkg cuts off filenames
# after a certain length. So you get things like 'netscape-base-',
# 'libstdc++2.10-', and 'communicator-s' twice. Anyway to change
# get a list of the _full_ filenames of all packages from the
# command line?
Yeah, 'dpkg-awk' will show you all your installed packages. 'grep' and
'awk' to suit.
# You would need to grab the source for each package you have,
# compile it into a .deb, then install, I think. Yes? 'apt-get
# source --compile package' will not place things into a nice
# neat tree, either. You would end up with a directory filled with
# tons of 'package-version' directories, as well as the diff's and
# original source.
I'd suggest something like:
#/bin/sh
mkdir -p /tmp/temporary-build-area
mkdir -p /tmp/termporary-package-area
cd /tmp/temporary-build-area
for i in `dpkg-awk | grep Package | awk '{print $2}'`; do
apt-get -b source $i
mv *.deb /tmp/temporary-package-area
rm -rf *
done
However, 'dpkg-awk | grep Package' occasionally gives more than just
package names(ie: any line with the word Package in it ;). So the
output would have to be put into a file and then edited manually.
David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay
Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Question regarding upgrade potato - testing
To quote Viktor Rosenfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED], # 98 packages upgraded, 11 newly installed, 2 to remove and 2 not # upgraded. # Need to get 51.6MB of archives. After unpacking 34.8MB will be used. # Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n # Abort. # # My questions are: # 1) There are only 11 new packages in woody? After almost one year of # the potato feature freeze? Granted, I do not have much software # installed, but I would figure that there would be more to upgrade. Look more closely ;) 98 packages upgraded. :) 11 will be newly installed, but there are 98 upgrades. Seems reasonable if you don't have a whole lot installed. 'apt-get -u dist-upgrade' will show you all the packages that will be upgraded, too. # 3) What's meant by kept back packages? If there is a bit of a dependancy problem, like a new package requiring the removal of an old package(or something like that, not sure), the new package will be kept back. Use 'apt-get -f -u dist-upgrade', -f means fix dependancies. # 4) How can I get a list of all packages installed (including version # information)? You can use either 'dpkg -l' or 'dpkg-awk' for more verbose output. 'man dpkg' for useful information. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: KDE2 and login screen blanking
To quote [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dean Allen Provins), # Hello: # # I have KDE2 as the X display manager using an ATI rage128 card, but # cannot get the login screen to blank. # # I've set xset to 10 minutes, but nothing happens at the end of the # interval. 'xset' only works for the current X session, it it has to be run each time your display manager starts up. You can also edit /etc/X11/XF86Config[-4] to accomplish the same. 'man XF86Config' or 'man XF86Config-4' for information. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: dropped out of potato install sequence
To quote Ken Irving [EMAIL PROTECTED], # I'm not sure how to recover/restart the install, and don't see a # troubleshooting section in the fine manual that covers this contingency. # Running dselect shows a much more detailed package listing than was # displayed during the install dialogs. Is it possible to run a command # to run through the install profiles (tasks) from the command line? Yeah, try 'tasksel'. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: esd auto-start with Gnome?
To quote Steve R. Hastings [EMAIL PROTECTED], # I kludged a solution by copying the .esd-auth file from the first user # to the second user; now either user can use esd when it is started by # the other user. I'm not certain whether this is the correct long-term # solution, but I'm running and right now that's all I care about. Try adding -terminate to spawn_options in /etc/esound/esd.conf . It will (hopefully!) make 'esd' terminate when the last client exits, allowing it to be restarted when needed again(for instance, when the next user logs in ;). David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Is there any way to prevent a package from upgrading?
To quote [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bostjan Muller), # Is there a way to do this with apt-get (I do apt-get -u upgrade, but don't want # to upgrade a specific package(s))? When a package is on hold, nothing touches it. Not dselect, not apt, not dpkg. Not unless you over-ride it, anyways ;) You might also want to check out 'stormpkg', which is at least available in Sid(unstable). It's a nice GTK+-based package manager. It implements dselect-type functionality, but in an (at least for me) understandable form. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Changing speed of PCI bus
To quote Ekkehard Kraemer [EMAIL PROTECTED], # I am having some trouble with a PCI card; the trouble goes away if I # reduce the PCI bus speed slightly (by reducing the FSB speed of my ASUS # A7V mainboard from 100 to 95 MHz). The system (and the PCI bus) is not # overclocked or in any other way non-standard; I suspect that some # oscillator or something like that on the Adaptec is slowly breaking due # to its old age. # # Is it possible to modify the speed of the PCI bus in a running Linux # environment? I.e., is there some command to temporarily reduce it and # return it to its original value later? In a word, no. This would require special hardware, and from what I know of various low-level hardware bits, it would be rather difficult to do. Sorry. Dave David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: what exactly is xdm and xfs??
To quote Xucaen [EMAIL PROTECTED], # about 2 weeks ago, I installed debian 2.2r2. # During the package install phase, I checked off # the X packages (simple menu). Along with all the # X packages, xdm and xfs were also installed. # Naturally I assumed that xdm and xfs were # necessary parts of X. However, this weekend # I installed the various XF86 packages # (xserver-vga16, xserver-common, xf86setup, fvwm, # and a few others) using apt-get onto a different # machine. I chose not to install the xdm and xfs. # much to my amazement startx works perfectly. # why does X work without xdm and xfs? There are task-* packages in Debian. These task- packages install a pre-determined set of packages. You probably installed task-x-window-system, which installs a full X environment on to your computer. On your second computer, you probably ended up with something similar to task-x-winodw-system-core , which is a minimal, but still functional X setup. 'xdm' is a nice graphical login screen. Not needed if you just want to log in on the console and use 'startx'. However, if you want to go straight from bootup into a nice graphical login, which will take you to a nice graphical desktop, you'd need XDM(or a relative, like 'gdm', 'wdm', and such). 'xfs' is the X Font Server. I'm not *positive* about what ths has over the regular way X handles fonts, but I use 'xfstt', which handles truetype fonts. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: xfstt??
To quote Xucaen [EMAIL PROTECTED], # is xfstt a font server that can be used in place # of xfs? I don't know if it can be used in place of xfs, but I know it can be used alongside xfs. I've got plenty of resources to burn on my machine, so I've never tried setting up xfstt to handle all my fonts. It just handles the TrueType sort. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Forcing modem connection to 57600 bps
To quote Jarkko Niemi [EMAIL PROTECTED], # So, I went to look modem's AT manual and edited /etc/chatscripts/ # I added AT+MS= part just before number dialing. # I don't know do I use wrong AT command, or are parameters wrong, # anyway it calls, but not connect. # By commenting that out, everything works like earlier - giving usually # 48000 or 46667 connects. 48000 and 46667 are just about par in many areas. The speed of a connection is negotiated between the two modems, and depends on line conditions. I live in a fairly old neighbourhood, and unless you've got a very good modem, you'll only get those speeds here. I spent some extra money quite a while ago and got a high-quality modem(although part of it was luck), and I can usually connect at somewhere around 54000. But what you're getting seems to be normal. If you were down in the 33.6k or 28.8k area, I'd worry that maybe something isn't set up rigt, but since you're getting such high speeds(compared to the alternatives ;), I wouldn't worry. Maybe you could bitch to the phone company about bad lines, but that's just about it. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: what does menuconfig require?
To quote Ken Weingold [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Anything in general that 'make menuconfig' needs? I just did a new # install, and when I type it at the console, I get an error when it is # in lxdialog. I know I had to install libncurses5-dev to get 'make menuconfig' to work. Aside from that, everything was already there, but I don't know the exact requirements. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: running another X from within X
To quote Brian Stults [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Is it possible from within X to start another session of X on a diffent # console? I know I can just Ctrl-Alt-F2, login, and then startx. Then I # could toggle between Ctrl-Alt-F7 and Ctrl-Alt-F8. However, I would like # to accomplish the same thing without dropping down to a console. When I # try to do this from an xterm, I get a message about not being authorized # to run the X server. Root, however, can do it. Any suggestions? The first X session's display is :0 . You have to tell 'startx' to start a new X session, on a display other that :0. For instance, startx -- :1 Would start a second X session, accessible by CTRL+ALT+F8. You can also embed an X session in a window; 'man Xnest' for more info. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: running another X from within X
To quote Warren Turkal [EMAIL PROTECTED], # I believe that he is having the same probs that I have. Normal user can't # startx, but root can. Is there a group they need to be a part of? What's the exact error? David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: could not open default font 'fixed'
To quote Ker Ruben Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED], # I've got a Fatal server error while trying to start X. I've got # xfonts-100dpi and 75dpi installed.. anybody know what package do i need to # have the 'fixed' font? 'xfonts-base'. You could also 'apt-get install task-x-window-system' and you'll get tons of stuff. For a more minimal(but actually working :) install, 'apt-get install task-x-window-system-core'. You can also use 'tasksel' to pick these task-* packages. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: could not open default font 'fixed'
To quote Ker Ruben Ramos [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Thanks guys! # 'xfonts-base'. You could also 'apt-get install task-x-window-system' and # you'll get tons of stuff. For a more minimal(but actually working :) # install, 'apt-get install task-x-window-system-core'. You can also use # 'tasksel' to pick these task-* packages. Sorry, I might have been more specific, too. Use 'apt-cache show task-x-window-system' and 'apt-cache show task-x-window-system-core' for a bit more information. Good stuff n there. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: running xconfig
To quote William Leese [EMAIL PROTECTED], # i was. # tried: # # $ xhost +local: # # but it gives the same error. In order for 'xhost' to work, you have to be the user who started to X session; so: [EMAIL PROTECTED] xhost +local [EMAIL PROTECTED] su Password: [EMAIL PROTECTED] make xconfig Try that :) David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Can't talk to user on same machine
To quote Brian Frederick Kimball [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Is #off# in front of the ntalk line? The wrapping of the text # makes this difficult to parse. IIRC you need ntalk enabled. You can # always run tcpdump on the interface being used to see what port the # talk program is trying to connect to (that's how I found I needed ntalk # also). # # As someone else said, make sure msg n hasn't been run by any of the # users you're trying to talk with. You can use the 'update-inetd' Debian utility to turn inetd services on/off. That's where the #off# came from. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: gtv, mozilla, and X questions
To quote Thomas J. Hamman [EMAIL PROTECTED], # X: The xhost localhost thing doesn't seem to work with X 4; what do I # need to do to allow my gf to run programs with her user when we're # logged into X as my user? I think the correct syntax is 'xhost +localhost'. However, if that doesn't work, maybe 'xhost +127.0.0.1'. # gtv: For a while now, the gtv program in the smpeg-gtv package has been # locking up when I try to use it to play mpeg's. Is it working for # anyone else? Yup, seems to work allright here. # Mozilla: I tried the binary download of Mozilla 0.7 and it won't run # (it starts up all the mozilla-bin processes but no mozilla windows # appear)... does anyone else have it working? Will there be a deb for it # in unstable soon? Dunno about the deb, but it works allright here. I untarred the ball to /temp, where I keep non-Debian stuff. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Wow, after weeks re-installing everything, I finally started x
To quote [EMAIL PROTECTED], # So, I guess it is progress. Finally succeeded on Mitsubishi Amity laptop # with xf86config, using monochrome VGA and lowest resolutions. OK, now X will # start, and a get cross-hatched screen with a big black X in the middle. But # system is not responsive to keystrokes, like alt-F2 to try to start a console # find out what is going on (if possible), and mouse is frozen too. If I # exit with C_A_backspace, I can back to prompt. When in X, CTRL+ALT+Fx will get you to a console, not ALT+Fx. Your mouse needs to be configured. :) If you're using Debian Potato, use XF86Setup. If not, or if XF86Setup doesn't work, you'll probably have to manually edit /etc/X11/XF86Config. # OK. locate gnome finds MANY files. But gnome at prompt returns: # bash: gnome: command not found. GNOME is a DE(Desktop Environment), and as such has many different parts. Most parts have their own commands. Like gnome-session for the session manager, 'panel' for the panel, ad nauseum. How are you starting X? It should bring up *some* form of environment for you. If you're just typing 'X' at the prompt, then that's your problem. Try 'startx' instead. You'll have to include more information for more help. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: ipchains and 2.4
To quote Jason Arden [EMAIL PROTECTED], # ipchains: Incompatible with this kernel Linux 2.4.0 contains another re-write of the network/filtering code. It's now called 'Netfilter', and it's pretty sweet, in my humble opinion. Anyways, it's a re-write, and there are a number of userspace changes. One of which is the switch to 'iptables', as opposed to 'ipchains'. 'iptables' uses different syntax, different targets, you name it, it's probably different. However, this one feels right :) I always found 'ipchains' a bit of a pain to deal with, and I'm much happier with 'iptables'. But don't fret ;) You need not re-write all your 'ipchains' rulesets just yet. In the kernel config, under Network options say Y to Network packet filtering (replaces ipchains). This turns on the new Netfilter code. Then, in the next dialog/tree(IP: Netfilter Configuration), scroll right down to the bottom. There, you'll see ipchains (2.2-style) support. Make sure all the options above it are set to N, and then say Y to ipchains (2.2-style) support. That'll let all your old 'ipchains' commands work. However, that's a compatibility layer, and you should start making efforts to port any ipchains-dependant software you use over to 'iptables'. David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: Network settings and ppp
To quote Elizabeth R. Chichester [EMAIL PROTECTED], # Okay, I made a mistake. When I set up Debian on my home machine, I was # thinking in terms of a home network and so set up networking (through # eth0). Unfortunately, I got ahead of myself and don't have everything # set up. Specifically, I didn't have internet access handled. # # I did set up wvdial during the installation process. It works. I'm # able to connect to the ISP. However, I can't get a DNS reading (i.e., I # can't ping anything successfully). The Gnome ppp dialer (where you can # specify the DNS addresses of the ISP) consistently gives an error # message. # # Does anyone know (or can you direct me) to where I should disable # networking so that I can get DNS through my ISP and otherwise get on the # 'net? Just a sample /etc/init.d/networking and /etc/resolv.conf (or # other files) might do the trick. Sure :) /etc/resolv.conf should look something like: order hosts,bind nameserver ip.address.of.nameserver nameserver ip.address.of.2nd-nameserver That'll probably fix things, but no guarantees ;) Consider this a quick-fix :) David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Answering machine software?
Hello everyone :) I have a plain USR Voice/Fax/Data modem, of the 56k variety. I was wondering if anyon knew if there is some software(prefferably Free, of course) which will act as an answering machine, using said modem? Ideally, it'd also be able to handle faxes, but since I have a fax machine anyways, that's not as important. Thanks for your time, David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
Re: help..kernel compile
Did anyone else get this message 16 times? David Barclay Harris, Clan Barclay Aut agere, aut mori. (Either action, or death.)
