Re: [expert] Quake III doesn't work with XFree 3.3.6 OR 4.0??

[Mike & Tracy Holt]

I hope you don't mind if I chime in here; what kind of hardware were you
running when you had Q3 running with MDK7.0?  I'm considering pulling 7.1
off and replacing with 7.0 just so I can play this new Q3 that I bought -
I'd hate to do that if it ended up not working either.  I've got the Matrox
G400 card that's supposed to be supported out of the box from loki, Athlon
700 and 512MB RAM and I'm getting the same results as Jay - I figured it had
to be something with the mesa drivers, but I'm not really sure.

Thanks, Mike

> QIII (full) worked fine with the 3.3.6 in 7.0, there are mouse probs in
> 4.0 that will not be fixed until 4.0.1 is released. Do you have glide
> & mesa installed (version that comes with quake is probably better
> than the mandrake one)? There are drivers & instructions at
> http://www.linux.3dfx.com . IIRC I have seen a Mandrake rpm
> for device 3dfx, so it might be on your CD, but you'll probably
> need the voodoo 3 glide rpm. Don't download the X 3.3.5 from
> 3dfx.com though, as, 3.3.6 from Mandrake is better.
>
> If you are still having probs, start it from a term (without "&")
> & post the output (try killing it with ctrl+alt+esc->move cursor
> ->enter, or opening a new term with ctrl+alt +F1 & whacking it
> with top).
>
> HTH
>
> -WBD
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jay Summet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 2:39 AM
> Subject: [expert] Quake III doesn't work with XFree 3.3.6 OR 4.0??
>
>
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I've been trying to get the Quake III demo working on my system:
> > Dual PII 333 192mb
> > Voodoo 3 3000 16MB AGP
> > SoundBlaster AWE 64
> > Mandrake 7.1 install (with XFree 3.3.6 initally).
> >
> > I downloaded and installed the Q3Demo and everything appeared to go ok
> until I
> > ran it. When I did, the sound was very choppy, and the mouse would
barely
> move.
> > I had to press the tab key 5 times to get down to exit and hit return
> (took it
> > about 2 seconds between moves.)
> >
> > I figured it might be GPM, so I killed gpm off, no difference.
> > I figured I may as well try upgrading to XFree86 4.0 so I did so
> (downloading
> > directly from XFree86.org) and had the same problems. Then I noticed the
> > XFree86 4.0 mdk.rpm on the install CD, so I erased my current setup and
> used
> > that to upgrade to 4.0, same problem.
> >
> > (X windows is working correctly in all cases other than the Q3Demo
> problems
> > outlined above.)
> >
> > It appears that my version of Xfree doesn't matter, and I was wondering
if
> > anybody else had fixed this problem?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jay
> >
>

[expert] hd partition size difference

[Bill Gerber]

Hi all
When I installed 7.1 I put it on hdc, which had 2 W98 fat32 partitions
on it.  I reduced the second partition with diskdrake and made a 2635MB
linux partition in the remainder.  During the install I had to reduce
the packages installed because it said I had only about 1400MB
available.  I have checked with df and it says 1.4GB.  I have had
another look with diskdrake and it still says the partition is 2635MB.
Any clues on what has happened here?

Also, probably as a consequence of using diskdrake to resize a fat32
partition, that partition is no longer visible to windows, but I can
access it from mdk, so I can live with that.

Thanks
Bill

Re: [expert] Real PLayer

[Traci Collins]

Have you setup RealPlayer to use TCP exclusively? By default
Realplayer will sometimes attempt to use UDP for connections because
it does less handshaking and may therefore stream more effectively.
If you have any trouble between you and the site you are connecting
to the lack of handshaking can keep your connection from functioning
at all. Once Real told me to try out forcing my player to always use
TCP the reliability of my connections went up dramatically. Something
to try if you haven't already tried it.

Traci

"Werner E. Niebel" wrote:
> 
> James,
> 
> I agree with much of your accessment.  OK here is the weird thing... When I
> upgraded to Mandrake 7.1 this only started happenning... Yesterday I tried to
> connect to Dr Dean Edel and then could not .. I quick rebooted and tried in
> Mandrake 7.0 (since I installed them on separte partitions) and I could reboot
> in 7.0... It seems to either be a Mandrake 7.1 problem or Netscape or
> something I had in configuration that got overwritten.  Im trying to
> troubleshoot this but it only has a problem with real time streams... I can
> connect to businesstalkradio fine yet other sites I cant.  Incidentally if I
> try to get Dr Dean archives it works fine.. Its only with some real time
> streams...
> 
> Any additional advice you or anyone has would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Werner
> 
> James Sparenberg wrote:
> 
> > Werner,
> >  There could be a couple of reasons that you can't connect and they
> > aren't your fault.  Since you can connect to the one site that indicates
> > that your set up correctly (however this could be a bad assumption on my
> > part I really doubt if it is.)
> >   1.  Rush's site is so slow or overloaded at the time you are trying to
> > connect that it's just taking forever for RPlayer to get the data it needs
> > and it's timing out or freezing.
> >   2.  The webmaster at rushes site made a typo on the page and as a result
> > it can't connect correctly.
> >   3.  Since realplayer for linux is in a state of perpetual beta testing it
> > could be unable to connect due to some weird Windoze only feature the
> > webmaster has enacted.
> >   4.  The people at Real.com are liberals and they have added software to
> > block Rush. :)
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > James
> >
> > At 10:46 AM 6/22/00, you wrote:
> > >Hi there,
> > >
> > >I had real player working and dont know what is going on in 7.1.  If I
> > >go to a site like
> > >
> > >www.businesstalkradio.net and try to listen it works fine with the
> > >streaming audio...When I go to something like
> > >
> > >www.rushlimbaugh.com
> > >
> > >it doesnt work... Real player executes and says "contacting" forever yet
> > >never gets the stream...Anyone out there know what the netscape file
> > >structure and plugins well enough to help me out diagnose what is
> > >wrong...
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >
> > >Werner

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Re: [expert] using menu system in 7.1 for 7.0

[Sevatio Octavio]

You'll find the menu tree in /usr/share/applnk 

seve

-Original Message-
From: Anton Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Saturday, June 24, 2000 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] using menu system in 7.1 for 7.0


>Submitted 24-Jun-00 by Norvell Spearman:
>> Since I can't get my tape drive to work after installing 7.1, I'm
>> downgrading to 7.0.  Anybody know how to incorporate the new X menu
>> system from 7.1 into 7.0?  Thanks much.
>
>It requires both the menu-*.rpm and the 7.1 (and newer) versions of
>the relevent window managers.  Good luck.
>
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Re: [expert] Kernel Upgrades on SCSI system

[Chmouel Boudjnah]

"John J. LeMay Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> If I use MandrakeUpdate to download the new kernel and headers (2.2.16), what
> do I need to do to install the new kernel prior to rebooting? ie, rerun lilo,
> anything special since my box is all SCSI (hd's, cdrom)?

mkinitrd, see the man mkinitrd and do :

-$ mkinitrd -f /boot/initrd.img 2.2.16-9mdk

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[expert] Kernel Upgrades on SCSI system

[John J. LeMay Jr.]

If I use MandrakeUpdate to download the new kernel and headers (2.2.16), what
do I need to do to install the new kernel prior to rebooting? ie, rerun lilo,
anything special since my box is all SCSI (hd's, cdrom)?

John LeMay Jr.
Senior Enterprise Consultant
NJMC, LLC.

Mandrake Linux 7.1 (2.2.15)  /  Polarbar Mailer 1.16c
JDK 1.1.8 IBM build l118-2515

Re: [expert] 7.0-2 Hardware conflict

[Pj]

Anton, 

Ok, I need to clarify myself a little: Font server crashes in GIMP
everytime I try to select a font. I can click and preview the first four
fonts in the list without problem. Click and preview number five locks the
program and creates the error mesage. 

I am not completely familiar with the boot process. I see a comment that X
number of blocks were cleaned..followed by a statement that /dev/hdb1
reached maximal mount count, check forced..I watch the percent process. It
finishes with the statement that .01% is non contiguous. The login finishes
in a normal manner

Kppp is configured for server assigned addresses. I have two ISP's. I've
never had the *reset* problem before, if this is a *normal function* that
is all I need to know.  

I don't know what precipitates the Gnome errors. I get the same error even
if I do nothing more than play solitaire and log out. [Gnome always starts
with two windows open.] 

Everytime I log out I see many Gnome error messages. Here is a small sample:
rm: Cannot remove '/home/ibi/.gnome //gmc-0L6CF2': No such file or directory.
Gnome VT-warning **: Could not open help topic file NULL. 
Warning: gnome_is_image_filename called, you should use gnome mime instead. 

BTW, I don't think the AMD CPU is the problem. I am quite unsure about the
motherboard though. I don't know that I've ever seen the TYAN S1590s
mentioned in this list. In fact I don't recall any Tyan/VIA chip being
mentioned here.  

Thanks to our list for your continuing support, 

Pj

At 02:34 PM 6/24/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Submitted 24-Jun-00 by Pj:
>> Symptoms: The fontserver crashes in Gnome when I try to select a font from
>> the pull down menu.
>
>Which application?
>
>> The GUI Netscape and Xterm will not open once an internet connection
>> has been established.
>
>This *sounds* like the problem that crops up when kppp (or any other
>dialer) is configured to reset your host name upon connect.  After
>that, X programs no longer have permission to start on your machine.
>
>> During boot ? is force checked. 0.1% is "non contiguous."
>
>Is that question mark what is displayed or ?  0.1% non contiguous is
>just an informative message and can be ignored.
>
>> Gnome help file warning error "NULL"
>
>Umm... When do you see this?  What actions lead up to it?
> 
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Re: [expert] diald - doesn't work

[Monte Milanuk]

Even though pppd now has dial-on-demand, it doesn't make diald
'un-necessary'.  Diald still has some features that may make it desirable
in certain situations.  If you have a home LAN and want to make sure that
your children aren't going places on the net during the wee hours of the
morning, you can set up accounting so that diald will not dial up the
internet during certain hours, or when packets are passed to it from
certain ip addresses, etc.  Also, it can vary the connect time, depending
on how long your are online, i.e. if you are on for only a few minutes (a
periodic fetchmail/sendmail job), it will drop the connection after only
a minute or so of inactivity.  If on the other hand, you've been online
for an hour, but are pausing to read a news site, it will wait 10-15
minutes before dropping the connection.  And it is all configurable.  I 
had this set up at one time, on a Slackware 4.0 box.  The trade off is
that it is definitely more difficult to set up
(more options, etc.)

Monte


On Sat, 24 Jun 2000, Eugene C. Zesch wrote:

> > "admin.mdk" wrote:
> > 
> > I'm using Air 7.02, and wanted to do a little proxy...
> > I tryed install diald, downloaded from LM librarys ...
> > 
> > ... and diald doesn't work. I tryed install more than 7 times. Once
> > time it can connecting, more times can't...
> > 
> > During boot diald.init messages me, it initialized ...
> > In what I'm wrong?
> > What can do problems?
> > Many thank's for your help ...
> > 
> You might want to look into man pppd. pppd now has an option to dial on
> demand, making diald unnecessary.
> 
> For instance, my /etc/ppp/options contains:
> 
> 10.0.0.0:10.0.0.0
> 
> demand
> 
> idle 240
> 
> ipcp-accept-remote
> 
> ipcp-accept-local
> 
> lock
> 
> noauth
> 
> connect "/usr/sbin/chat -f /etc/ppp/chat-script" 
> 
> /dev/ttyS2 115200 
> 
> modem 
> 
> crtscts 
> 
> defaultroute 
> 
> noipdefault 
> 
> I'm not sure its elegant, but it works for me. On boot, I activate the
> connection with netcfg, and it works.
> 
> Gene
> 

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Re: [expert] OT: any quality PC keyboards?

[Monte Milanuk]

I used to use a M$ Natural, which worked well for me.  I have a partially
shattered elbow, which makes a normal 104 key keyboard very uncomfortable
after about 5 minutes.  The keyboard which I use now, is a PFU Happy
Hacking Lite keyboard.  Nice and small, and I can absolutely fly on this
thing, now that I am used to the layout, which is a little different.  I
don't have the url for their website, but they may be worth checking
out for you.  FWIW, they also make a more expensive version that can be
used with either a Sun/Mac/PC, but it is around $130US.  

Monte

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RE: [expert] Upgrade on Software root RAID

[Bill Shirley]

Yes, I did an install on /dev/hda1 and then configured hdb1 and hdc1 for
raid0 (for / mount) -- hdb3 and hdc3 (for /boot mount) on a couple of 20G
drives.  (/dev/hdb2 and /dev/hdc2 are 128M swap).  I mounted /dev/md0 as
/mnt/root and /dev/md1 as /mnt/boot.  Then:
cp -ax /boot /mnt/boot
cp -ax / /mnt/root
Then, I wanted to remove the install disk. To do this, edit
/mnt/root/etc/raidtab and change references from hdb to hda.  Configure
/mnt/root/etc/lilo.conf and /etc/mnt/etc/fstab and power down.  Pull install
drive (old /dev/hda).  Jumper /dev/hdb to now be master.  Boot from a floppy
and run lilo.  Reboot.

[root@bugsbunny /root]# cat /etc/raidtab
# Sample raid-1 configuration
raiddev /dev/md0
raid-level  1
nr-raid-disks   2
nr-spare-disks  0
chunk-size  4
persistent-superblock   1

device  /dev/hda1
raid-disk   0

device  /dev/hdc1
raid-disk   1

raiddev /dev/md1
raid-level  1
nr-raid-disks   2
nr-spare-disks  0
chunk-size  4
persistent-superblock   1

device  /dev/hda3
raid-disk   0

device  /dev/hdc3
raid-disk   1

[root@bugsbunny /root]# cat /etc/lilo.conf
boot = /dev/md1
timeout = 50
prompt
  message = /boot/message
  default = linux
  vga = 0x0f05
  read-only
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
keytable=/boot/us.klt

image = /boot/vmlinuz
  label = linux
  append = "max_scsi_luns=5"
  root = /dev/md0

image = /boot/vmlinuz.old
  label = oldlinux
  append = "max_scsi_luns=5"
  root = /dev/md0

other = /dev/fd0
  label = floppy
  unsafe

[root@bugsbunny /root]# cat /etc/fstab
#/dev/hda1  /   ext2defaults1 1
/dev/md0/   ext2defaults1 1
/dev/md1/boot   ext2defaults1 1

#/dev/hda2  swapswapdefaults0 0
/dev/hda2   noneswappri=100,exec,dev,suid,rw 1 1
/dev/hdc2   noneswappri=100,exec,dev,suid,rw 1 1

none/proc   procdefaults0 0
none/dev/ptsdevpts  mode=0620   0 0

/dev/fd0/mnt/floppy auto sync,user,noauto,nosuid,nodev,unhide
0
 0
/dev/cdrom  /mnt/cdrom  auto user,noauto,nosuid,exec,nodev,ro   0 0

elmo:/home/Mandrake /mnt/nfs nfs noauto,ro,nosuid,rsize=8192,wsize=8192 0 0


Hope this helps,
Bill


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Marc Bourget
> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 10:20 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [expert] Upgrade on Software root RAID
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm trying to upgrade MDK 7.0 system with a software raid0 root. It
> seems that everything is in place to do it since I manadged
> to manually
> start and mount the array. The problem is that the installer
> dont offer
> you any choice over choosing a root on an md device.
>
> Did someone managed to do it automaticly or even manually. I
> wold really
> apreciate some help on this thing since the only other way I
> have is to
> reinstall everything from scratch. (We all know this is a bad thing!)
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [expert] Mouseconfig question.

[Ellick Chan]

On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, you wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am looking for the place where it tells you how to set up a three
> button sierial mouse for the laptop.  I found it once, but I can't
> remember4 where it was.  It said to select a certain mouse type and do
> thjis and that 
> 
The "xf86config" command will ask that, otherwise, insert your favorite editor,
vi, and "vi /etc/X11/XF86Config". Under that, there is an emulate 3-button
option somewhere in the mouse section.

> also how the heck to get the damn backspace button to work?  where do
> you find thazt out?
> 
I think you need the XKB extensions, try xf86config or editing the above file.

> Thanks for listening to my stupid questions.
> 
> All donations fo ra new hdd accepted .  thats; why I am having these
> troubles.
> 
> Ivan.
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Re: [expert] Quake III doesn't work with XFree 3.3.6 OR 4.0??

[Warren Doney]

QIII (full) worked fine with the 3.3.6 in 7.0, there are mouse probs in
4.0 that will not be fixed until 4.0.1 is released. Do you have glide
& mesa installed (version that comes with quake is probably better
than the mandrake one)? There are drivers & instructions at
http://www.linux.3dfx.com . IIRC I have seen a Mandrake rpm
for device 3dfx, so it might be on your CD, but you'll probably
need the voodoo 3 glide rpm. Don't download the X 3.3.5 from
3dfx.com though, as, 3.3.6 from Mandrake is better.

If you are still having probs, start it from a term (without "&")
& post the output (try killing it with ctrl+alt+esc->move cursor
->enter, or opening a new term with ctrl+alt +F1 & whacking it
with top).

HTH

-WBD


- Original Message -
From: "Jay Summet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 2:39 AM
Subject: [expert] Quake III doesn't work with XFree 3.3.6 OR 4.0??


> Hello all,
>
> I've been trying to get the Quake III demo working on my system:
> Dual PII 333 192mb
> Voodoo 3 3000 16MB AGP
> SoundBlaster AWE 64
> Mandrake 7.1 install (with XFree 3.3.6 initally).
>
> I downloaded and installed the Q3Demo and everything appeared to go ok
until I
> ran it. When I did, the sound was very choppy, and the mouse would barely
move.
> I had to press the tab key 5 times to get down to exit and hit return
(took it
> about 2 seconds between moves.)
>
> I figured it might be GPM, so I killed gpm off, no difference.
> I figured I may as well try upgrading to XFree86 4.0 so I did so
(downloading
> directly from XFree86.org) and had the same problems. Then I noticed the
> XFree86 4.0 mdk.rpm on the install CD, so I erased my current setup and
used
> that to upgrade to 4.0, same problem.
>
> (X windows is working correctly in all cases other than the Q3Demo
problems
> outlined above.)
>
> It appears that my version of Xfree doesn't matter, and I was wondering if
> anybody else had fixed this problem?
>
> Thanks,
> Jay
>

Re: [expert] CDROM, PICO, and Web Server in 7.1

[Ellick Chan]

On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, you wrote:
> Hi Gang,
> 
> I just installed the latest 7.1 on a system.  A couple things went wrong:
> 
> #1. After it installs all the packages from disk #1, it prompts me for disk #2.  
>However, my CDROM drive is frozen
>  - I can't eject it!  Even when I physically unplug it, switch disks, and plug
> it back in again, LM doesn't see the disk.  What's up with that?  Tried
>another CDROM drive, thinking there was something wrong with the one, but same
> story. >

Try hitting ctrl-alt-F1, thru F5 to see if the virtual consoles give any error
messages

 > #2. I noticed the PICO editor didn't get installed.  Where can I get that? > 
Pico is part of the pine package

> #3. I want to have a http server running on this machine.  I didn't see any server 
>software get installed.  Didn't see any Apache stuff in the list of RPMs on the disk 
>either.
>
Look on the Mandrake CD under Mandrake/RPMS, apache should be there.
 
> Thanks.
> 
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Re: [expert] using menu system in 7.1 for 7.0

[Anton Graham]

Submitted 24-Jun-00 by Norvell Spearman:
> Since I can't get my tape drive to work after installing 7.1, I'm
> downgrading to 7.0.  Anybody know how to incorporate the new X menu
> system from 7.1 into 7.0?  Thanks much.

It requires both the menu-*.rpm and the 7.1 (and newer) versions of
the relevent window managers.  Good luck.

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[expert] using menu system in 7.1 for 7.0

[Norvell Spearman]

Since I can't get my tape drive to work after installing 7.1, I'm
downgrading to 7.0.  Anybody know how to incorporate the new X menu
system from 7.1 into 7.0?  Thanks much.

---Norvell

Re: [expert] su - user -c "command" doesn't load profile

[Anton Graham]

Submitted 24-Jun-00 by Jasper Spit:

> This doesn't work for me. I just don't understand why su doesn't load
> the user's profile. What's the point of the -c option if it doesn't load
> the profile with the correct PATH settings, etc. ?!?

The point of -c is to set the euid of the process, that is all :)
Anything that is dependent on a particular user's base environment
should be specified as opposed to expecting that environment.

For example, root's path does not include /usr/local/bin or ~user/bin.
If I want to run a program from one of those locations as a user via
su in a script, I use su -c "~user/bin/program"

You *shouldn't* require access to a specific user's environment for
administrative functions, which is all the root account is meant for.
Set those environment variables you need within the script.  This will
prevent them from being exported into root's master environment.

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Re: [expert] su - user -c "command" doesn't load profile

[Anton Graham]

Submitted 24-Jun-00 by Jasper Spit:
> Hi,
> 
> On Mandrake 7.0 when you do a su -  -c "command" from the root
> account, 's profile is not loaded. When you just do a su -
> , it works OK.

This is correct behavior.  su -  is a login shell, which is the
only time 's profile is loaded.  su -c only executes a command
as if it were that user.

> This is very annoying, I need to create a script that runs as root
> and executes some commands as another user. I can't get this to work
> right now.
> Even su -  -c ". .profile; echo $ORACLE_HOME" doesn't work.

Those are conflicting options. A shell cannot be both a login shell
and only be passed the single command.  Also you're attemting to
source .profile from $PWD.  if $PWD is not 's $HOME then you
aren't sourcing the correct file.

> How can I get this fixed ? I can't remember having this problem on
> Red Hat or SuSE. I upgraded to the newest sh-utils, but that didn't
> help either.

How about su -c ". ~user/.profile;echo $ORACLE_HOME"

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Re: [expert] 7.0-2 Hardware conflict

[Anton Graham]

Submitted 24-Jun-00 by Pj:
> Symptoms: The fontserver crashes in Gnome when I try to select a font from
> the pull down menu.

Which application?

> The GUI Netscape and Xterm will not open once an internet connection
> has been established.

This *sounds* like the problem that crops up when kppp (or any other
dialer) is configured to reset your host name upon connect.  After
that, X programs no longer have permission to start on your machine.

> During boot ? is force checked. 0.1% is "non contiguous."

Is that question mark what is displayed or ?  0.1% non contiguous is
just an informative message and can be ignored.

> Gnome help file warning error "NULL"

Umm... When do you see this?  What actions lead up to it?
 
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Re: [expert] mc listing and rpm problem

[Norvell Spearman]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> So anybody fixed it ?
> It is not problem with MC i did try a few different versions

Well, I just uninstalled the mc which comes with Linux-Mandrake 7.1
(`rpm -e --nodeps mc') then installed the mc off my 7.02 CD and I can
now browse rpms again.  And the file listing format is back to normal
also.  Which versions of mc did you try?  The one on 7.02 is
mc-4.5.42-4mdk.

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Re: [expert] missing SSH ?

[Gary]

On Sat, Jun 24, 2000 at 11:54:04AM -0500 or thereabouts, Bug Hunter wrote:

> > Actually, the US law has changed a few months ago, and 128 bit is okay to
> > export.  This was demonstrate by a US Congresman from California who was the
> > first to send the PGP program to someone in England.  It made the papers
> > nationally.  It really is no longer a problem.  In fact, if you go to PGPI
> > (Internationl) website, www.pgpi.com, to download the latest version, it
> > will send you to the US site for downloading.
> > 
> 
>   Yes, but. You have to get permission from the government to export
> the software.  This may only apply to the developer of the program, but I
> am not sure.  
> 
>   So, exporting high encryption software can still get you in trouble,
> depending upon the circumstances.

Could be Bug, I donno.  PGPI has a "news" section where it says that Network
Associates was granted a license to export PGP, so you are probably right. 

Regards,
Gary

> 
> bug
> 

Re: [expert] su - user -c "command" doesn't load profile

[Charles Curley]

On Sat, Jun 24, 2000 at 08:01:34PM +0200, Jasper Spit wrote:
-> Hi,
-> 
-> On Sat, 24 Jun 2000, Charles Curley wrote:
-> 
-> > I suspect you want to take out the initial hyphen. Here is what I use to
-> > start up the distributed net daemon:
-> >
-> > # dnetc 2000 06 21 16:19:34
-> > pushd /home/dnetc/bin
-> > su dnetc -c \"./dnetc\" -s /bin/bash
-> > popd
-> >
-> > Your initial hyphen tells su to run the login sequence, e.g. run the
-> > .bash_profile, etc.
-> 
-> This doesn't work for me. I just don't understand why su doesn't load
-> the user's profile. What's the point of the -c option if it doesn't load
-> the profile with the correct PATH settings, etc. ?!?

OK, then try escaping the quotes and the semicolon and any other shell
special characters in the original.

The point of the -c with or without the user profile, etc., depends on
what you are trying to do. You may not want the user profile for some
things. You may want some other profile, like that of the user you are
suing from. Not being a Microsoft product, Linux is not going to prohibit
you from doing something just because the developers can't think of a
reason why you would want to do it.

The sample I showed above does not load the profile, and works just
fine. I didn't load the profile in that one because I didn't need it.

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Re: [expert] messages in triplicate (fwd)

[Denis HAVLIK]

:~>Awww...shucks, Denis I'm just trying to help. I
:~>sometimes feel guilty for bugging you about list-related
:~>problems so much, but... :-)

At least you know how to file a bug report. Doing a diff is much easier
when one actually has the files .-)

:~>Being a Tech Support professional I can sympathize
:~>sometimes with how frustrating it can be to run this list!

Ah, that is why you know how to file a report!

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Re: [expert] su - user -c "command" doesn't load profile

[Bug Hunter]

  true.  However, please note that the sudoers file ships with
ALL=(ALL):NOPASSWD

  as an example.  ALL does not mean "all the programs I have defined
to be run by people I have given access to."  Instead, ALL means "every
program on the machine."

 This can bite you, as it is a silent permission.

bug

On Sat, 24 Jun 2000, Anton Graham wrote:

> Submitted 24-Jun-00 by Lars Nordin:
> > Try downloading "sudo"  that was the old Linux "su" package
> > - it should still be out there.
> > 
> 
> Actually sudo is far more powerdul in limiting access than su is
> because you can define who can use what commands and never give out a
> superuser password :)

Re: [expert] Zip Drive Compatibility

[Bug Hunter]

 you need to use 'modprobe imm' with the newer zips.

  note that using a parallel port drive _really_ bogs the processor down.
You want to do your backups early in the morning.

bug

On Sat, 24 Jun 2000, Joe Heafner wrote:

> Greetings.
> 
> After much thought, I have come to the conclusion that a Zip Drive will
> be my most economical and most efficient cross-platform backup solution.
> I'm probably going to Best Buy this evening to pick one up. I need to
> know if there are any concerns regarding the model. I'd prefer a
> parallel port model. Will any capacity work?
> 
> Thanks,

Re: [expert] Copy HD to HD

[Denis HAVLIK]

:~>Is there any command to copy HD to HD ,like command line "diskcopy" under DOS

yes.

:~>,my friend tech me
:~>dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb1 bs=1024k,but must run it under single mode.
:~>anyone tell or me? or another good command to use?thanks

So your frien tech (what does that mean?) you "dd", and you are not
happy? dd can do just about anything whene it comes to copiing, so if you
really want to mirror HD, dd is the way to go.

If you are scared of dd, and want to copy all data from one partition to
another using a cute user interface, I would recoment "mc".

cu
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Re: [expert] CDROM, PICO, and Web Server in 7.1

[Jim P.]

I said hd thingit should have read cdrom.there is a definate
cdrom/cdrw bug in mdk 7.1..


> Monte,
>
> sounds to me like this is happening during install...so he hasn't mounted
or
> supermounted anything yetsounds like my cdrom bug has hit someone
> elseARE YOU LISTENING MDK???
>
> I have been messing with this hd thing ever since 7.1 was releasedI
> still don't have answers
>
> Jim
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Monte Milanuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 1:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [expert] CDROM, PICO, and Web Server in 7.1
>
>
> > As far as the CDROM goes, are you using supermount?  If not, are you
> > manually mounting the cd drive from the command line, or something
> > similar?
> >
> > Monte
> >
> > On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Bob Puff@NLE wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Gang,
> > >
> > > I just installed the latest 7.1 on a system.  A couple things went
> wrong:
> > >
> > > #1. After it installs all the packages from disk #1, it prompts me for
> disk #2.  However, my CDROM drive is frozen - I can't eject it!  Even when
I
> physically unplug it, switch disks, and plug it back in again, LM doesn't
> see the disk.  What's up with that?  Tried another CDROM drive, thinking
> there was something wrong with the one, but same story.
> > >
> > > #2. I noticed the PICO editor didn't get installed.  Where can I get
> that?
> > >
> > > #3. I want to have a http server running on this machine.  I didn't
see
> any server software get installed.  Didn't see any Apache stuff in the
list
> of RPMs on the disk either.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > Bob
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>

[expert] 7.0-2 Hardware conflict

[Pj]

I seem to have a conflict that causes Mdk to perform poorly. No version
I've tried to date runs well. This includes 6.0, boxed 6.1 PowerPack-which
wouldn't install the first disk, and 7.0-2. Needless to say I am as
frustrated as the kind folks who are privately trying to help me. 

Symptoms: The fontserver crashes in Gnome when I try to select a font from
the pull down menu. I see many warnings and error messages about the
screensaver Atlantis in Gnome. The GUI Netscape and Xterm will not open
once an internet connection has been established. During boot ? is force
checked. 0.1% is "non contiguous." Gnome help file warning error "NULL"

The monitor was never been correctly identified but once configured does
not seem to cause any problems. 

Hardware:
Tyan S1590s/VIA chipset AT motherboard; K2-500 CPU; 160 P-100 RAM.
2-Western Digital Caviar drives; 1-Seagate harddrive. All 5400 spin speed. 
Hi-Val CD-ROM; generic floppy.
Sound Blaster AWE16. 
Aopen S3Virge PCI or Diamond S3Trio AGP. PCI in use currently. 
Digiview HR 70+ 17" multisync capable.
Deere brand 250watt AT power supply. 

Setup:
hda1: 3.2GB WD /boot(LILO)19MG   
Winblows 98 (bad block in G partition.
hdb1: 8.4 WD /swap & Mdk
hdb3: .850 Seagate Winblows

Distro: Mdk7.0-2. 
Monitor 800x600 and 100dpi font 
Installed: Openssh, Openssl mdk-rpm
Window Manager: Gnome / Enlightenment. 


What is the answer and is there a solution? Do I have a timing or hardware
conflict or a combination? 

Thanks for the help, 

Pj
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Re: [expert] su - user -c "command" doesn't load profile

[Anton Graham]

Submitted 24-Jun-00 by Lars Nordin:
> Try downloading "sudo"  that was the old Linux "su" package
> - it should still be out there.
> 

Actually sudo is far more powerdul in limiting access than su is
because you can define who can use what commands and never give out a
superuser password :)

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Re: [expert] CDROM, PICO, and Web Server in 7.1

[Jim P.]

Monte,

sounds to me like this is happening during install...so he hasn't mounted or
supermounted anything yetsounds like my cdrom bug has hit someone
elseARE YOU LISTENING MDK???

I have been messing with thisw hd thing ever since 7.1 was releasedI
still don't have answers

Jim

- Original Message -
From: "Monte Milanuk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] CDROM, PICO, and Web Server in 7.1


> As far as the CDROM goes, are you using supermount?  If not, are you
> manually mounting the cd drive from the command line, or something
> similar?
>
> Monte
>
> On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Bob Puff@NLE wrote:
>
> > Hi Gang,
> >
> > I just installed the latest 7.1 on a system.  A couple things went
wrong:
> >
> > #1. After it installs all the packages from disk #1, it prompts me for
disk #2.  However, my CDROM drive is frozen - I can't eject it!  Even when I
physically unplug it, switch disks, and plug it back in again, LM doesn't
see the disk.  What's up with that?  Tried another CDROM drive, thinking
there was something wrong with the one, but same story.
> >
> > #2. I noticed the PICO editor didn't get installed.  Where can I get
that?
> >
> > #3. I want to have a http server running on this machine.  I didn't see
any server software get installed.  Didn't see any Apache stuff in the list
of RPMs on the disk either.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Bob
> > _
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Re: [expert] Connecting two monitors

[Chmouel Boudjnah]

Axalon Bloodstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Being my ever forgetful self i left out a major point.
> XFree has been able to drive multiple cards on the same machine for quite
> awhile now (no i don't know exactly a version #), but it drives them
> indapendantly.

yep look with natanya (my machine in the LA office) i have two graphics
card and i think XFree use on the card where the Monitor is attached.

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Re: [expert] How will this effect Mandrake?

[Chmouel Boudjnah]

Axalon Bloodstone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > I read this on freshmeat today and wondered if it
> > will have an impact on the way Mandrake does business?
> > vern
> None, our servers are based in the US ;) 

and a lot of developers are based in US ;)

> >   subject: Possible Threat to French Open Source Sites
> >  added by: jeff covey on Jun 21st 2000, 07:40
> >  category: Editorial
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Re: Sort By Thread (WAS: [expert] missing SSH ?)

[Chmouel Boudjnah]

Jon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'll second that.  I've been using mutt myself for a few years now
> and I haven't wanted to try anything else yet.  Pretty lightweight
> but so powerful.  It's great!

emacs and this :

(setq gnus-thread-sort-functions
  '(gnus-thread-sort-by-number
gnus-thread-sort-by-date
gnus-thread-sort-by-subject 
gnus-thread-sort-by-total-score))

in .gnus

> The PGP/GPG support is also done nicely.

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Re: [expert] su - user -c "command" doesn't load profile

[Lars Nordin]

Try downloading "sudo"  that was the old Linux "su" package
- it should still be out there.

On Sat, 24 Jun 2000, Jasper Spit wrote:
> On Mandrake 7.0 when you do a su -  -c "command" from the root
> account, 's profile is not loaded. When you just do a su - ,
>  it works OK. 
> How can I get this fixed ? I can't remember having this problem on Red Hat
> or SuSE.  I upgraded to the newest sh-utils, but that didn't help either.
> 
> Also, su doesn't return the correct errorcode if you use the -c flag, it
> always returns 0.
> This works fine on e.g. HP/UX and Sun Solaris.
> 
> Jasper
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Re: [expert] Zip Drive Compatibility

[Joe Heafner]

Jay Summet wrote:
> 
> I would suggest an IDE or SCSI model.  I have a parallel port zip
> drive, and have yet to be able to get it working under Linux.  There are
> drivers that claim to work, but I haven't gotten them working.
> 
> (Also, SCSI and IDE are MUCH faster than parallel port for data transfer).
> 
> I assume you want to be able to move the drive from machine to machine, so an
> internal IDE wouldn't be optimal (unless you got one for each machine), and a
> SCSI model would require a scsi adaptor in each computer that you want to use
> it with.  This is the route I'd  suggest if you want to use the same drive on
> more than one computer. Having a SCSI interface on a computer is always nice,
> you never know what cool SCSI peripherals you might find at a garage sale ;>.
> 
I need to move between my linux desktop box and my notebook, neither of
which has scsi adapters at the moment. Speed isn't an issue for me.

> If you can get parallel port support working under Linux, that would work well
> for you, BUT, I'd suggest you buy your zip drive from somewhere that will let
> you take it back if you are unable to get it working with linux.
> 
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Re: [expert] su - user -c "command" doesn't load profile

[Jasper Spit]

Hi,

On Sat, 24 Jun 2000, Charles Curley wrote:

> I suspect you want to take out the initial hyphen. Here is what I use to
> start up the distributed net daemon:
>
> # dnetc 2000 06 21 16:19:34
> pushd /home/dnetc/bin
> su dnetc -c \"./dnetc\" -s /bin/bash
> popd
>
> Your initial hyphen tells su to run the login sequence, e.g. run the
> .bash_profile, etc.

This doesn't work for me. I just don't understand why su doesn't load
the user's profile. What's the point of the -c option if it doesn't load
the profile with the correct PATH settings, etc. ?!?

Thanks,

Jasper

Re: [expert] CDROM, PICO, and Web Server in 7.1

[Monte Milanuk]

As far as the CDROM goes, are you using supermount?  If not, are you
manually mounting the cd drive from the command line, or something
similar?

Monte

On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, Bob Puff@NLE wrote:

> Hi Gang,
> 
> I just installed the latest 7.1 on a system.  A couple things went wrong:
> 
> #1. After it installs all the packages from disk #1, it prompts me for disk #2.  
>However, my CDROM drive is frozen - I can't eject it!  Even when I physically unplug 
>it, switch disks, and plug it back in again, LM doesn't see the disk.  What's up with 
>that?  Tried another CDROM drive, thinking there was something wrong with the one, 
>but same story.
> 
> #2. I noticed the PICO editor didn't get installed.  Where can I get that?
> 
> #3. I want to have a http server running on this machine.  I didn't see any server 
>software get installed.  Didn't see any Apache stuff in the list of RPMs on the disk 
>either.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Bob
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Re: [expert] su - user -c "command" doesn't load profile

[Charles Curley]

On Sat, Jun 24, 2000 at 01:41:26PM +0200, Jasper Spit wrote:
-> Hi,
-> 
-> On Mandrake 7.0 when you do a su -  -c "command" from the root
-> account,
-> 's profile is not loaded. When you just do a su - , it works OK.
-> 
-> This is very annoying, I need to create a script that runs as root and
-> executes some
-> commands as another user. I can't get this to work right now.
-> Even su -  -c ". .profile; echo $ORACLE_HOME" doesn't work.
-> 
-> How can I get this fixed ? I can't remember having this problem on Red Hat
-> or SuSE.
-> I upgraded to the newest sh-utils, but that didn't help either.
-> 
-> Also, su doesn't return the correct errorcode if you use the -c flag, it
-> always returns 0.
-> This works fine on e.g. HP/UX and Sun Solaris.

I suspect you want to take out the initial hyphen. Here is what I use to
start up the distributed net daemon:


# dnetc 2000 06 21 16:19:34
pushd /home/dnetc/bin
su dnetc -c \"./dnetc\" -s /bin/bash
popd

Your initial hyphen tells su to run the login sequence, e.g. run the
.bash_profile, etc.


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Re: [expert] Zip Drive Compatibility

[Charles Curley]

On Sat, Jun 24, 2000 at 10:37:27AM -0400, Joe Heafner wrote:
-> Greetings.
-> 
-> After much thought, I have come to the conclusion that a Zip Drive will
-> be my most economical and most efficient cross-platform backup solution.
-> I'm probably going to Best Buy this evening to pick one up. I need to
-> know if there are any concerns regarding the model. I'd prefer a
-> parallel port model. Will any capacity work?

Any capacity should work for you. I use a zip drive for part of a bare
metal recovery backup, and find I only need about 30 MB on the zip
drive. However, that's the minimum to get to a condition where I can
restore from tape in the second stage.

I believe that if you have the 250 MB version, it will read and write the
100 MB disks, so if I were buying one now, I'd look closely at the 250
MB. I don't know if they have a parallel port version, so check that out.

The paralle port model is far and away the easiest to move from computer
to computer.

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Re: [expert] missing SSH ?

[Bug Hunter]

On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, Gary wrote:

> 
> Actually, the US law has changed a few months ago, and 128 bit is okay to
> export.  This was demonstrate by a US Congresman from California who was the
> first to send the PGP program to someone in England.  It made the papers
> nationally.  It really is no longer a problem.  In fact, if you go to PGPI
> (Internationl) website, www.pgpi.com, to download the latest version, it
> will send you to the US site for downloading.
> 

  Yes, but. You have to get permission from the government to export
the software.  This may only apply to the developer of the program, but I
am not sure.  

  So, exporting high encryption software can still get you in trouble,
depending upon the circumstances.

bug

[expert] gdm login

[Sebastian Dransfeld]

How does gdm remember what login I used last time? (Gnome, KDE)

seb

Re: [expert] diald - doesn't work

[Eugene C. Zesch]

> "admin.mdk" wrote:
> 
> I'm using Air 7.02, and wanted to do a little proxy...
> I tryed install diald, downloaded from LM librarys ...
> 
> ... and diald doesn't work. I tryed install more than 7 times. Once
> time it can connecting, more times can't...
> 
> During boot diald.init messages me, it initialized ...
> In what I'm wrong?
> What can do problems?
> Many thank's for your help ...
> 
You might want to look into man pppd. pppd now has an option to dial on
demand, making diald unnecessary.

For instance, my /etc/ppp/options contains:

10.0.0.0:10.0.0.0

demand

idle 240

ipcp-accept-remote

ipcp-accept-local

lock

noauth

connect "/usr/sbin/chat -f /etc/ppp/chat-script" 

/dev/ttyS2 115200 

modem 

crtscts 

defaultroute 

noipdefault 

I'm not sure its elegant, but it works for me. On boot, I activate the
connection with netcfg, and it works.

Gene

Re: [expert] Zip Drive Compatibility

[Jay Summet]

I would suggest an IDE or SCSI model.  I have a parallel port zip
drive, and have yet to be able to get it working under Linux.  There are
drivers that claim to work, but I haven't gotten them working.

(Also, SCSI and IDE are MUCH faster than parallel port for data transfer).

I assume you want to be able to move the drive from machine to machine, so an
internal IDE wouldn't be optimal (unless you got one for each machine), and a
SCSI model would require a scsi adaptor in each computer that you want to use
it with.  This is the route I'd  suggest if you want to use the same drive on
more than one computer. Having a SCSI interface on a computer is always nice,
you never know what cool SCSI peripherals you might find at a garage sale ;>.

You could probably find some cheap scsi adaptor cards on the net, you
don't need the latest and greatest for a zip drive...

Having a SCSI adaptor built into my motherboard, I'd go with SCSI if I had to
buy a zip drive now (already using my IDE ports ;>).  

If you can get parallel port support working under Linux, that would work well
for you, BUT, I'd suggest you buy your zip drive from somewhere that will let
you take it back if you are unable to get it working with linux.

Jay Summet


On Sat, 24 Jun 2000, you wrote:
> Greetings.
> 
> After much thought, I have come to the conclusion that a Zip Drive will
> be my most economical and most efficient cross-platform backup solution.
> I'm probably going to Best Buy this evening to pick one up. I need to
> know if there are any concerns regarding the model. I'd prefer a
> parallel port model. Will any capacity work?
> 
> Thanks,
> -- 
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> My Book 
> My Home Page 
> CVAC Home Page 
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Re: [expert] Hardware removal and configuring modem

[Anton Graham]

Submitted 24-Jun-00 by Seak, Teng-Fong:
>  However, I'm thinking if the modem could be configured similarly,
> it'd be very nice.  Actually, the so-called "modem configuration "just
> consists of asking what port the modem is connected to and make a
> symbolic link to /dev/ttySx.  

This *does* work with external modems, since they work off of the
standard ports.  The problem arrises when using an internal model,
becuase it frequently is on a non-standard irq. Because auto-probing
irq's is not recommended, it is not built into the kernel.  So, if you
have a machine with two "real" serial ports (/dev/ttyS[01]) and an
internal ISA modem (/dev/ttyS2), the internal modem is not detectable
unless you have previously "setserial /dev/ttyS2 irq ".

The dialog you spoke of does not appear when the modem can be
detected. (This is at least true in 7.1, I didn't do any significant
hardware changes other than video under 7.0)

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[expert] Quake III doesn't work with XFree 3.3.6 OR 4.0??

[Jay Summet]

Hello all,

I've been trying to get the Quake III demo working on my system:
Dual PII 333 192mb
Voodoo 3 3000 16MB AGP
SoundBlaster AWE 64
Mandrake 7.1 install (with XFree 3.3.6 initally).

I downloaded and installed the Q3Demo and everything appeared to go ok until I
ran it. When I did, the sound was very choppy, and the mouse would barely move.
I had to press the tab key 5 times to get down to exit and hit return (took it
about 2 seconds between moves.)

I figured it might be GPM, so I killed gpm off, no difference.
I figured I may as well try upgrading to XFree86 4.0 so I did so (downloading
directly from XFree86.org) and had the same problems. Then I noticed the
XFree86 4.0 mdk.rpm on the install CD, so I erased my current setup and used
that to upgrade to 4.0, same problem.

(X windows is working correctly in all cases other than the Q3Demo problems
outlined above.)

It appears that my version of Xfree doesn't matter, and I was wondering if
anybody else had fixed this problem?

Thanks,
Jay

Re: [expert] mc listing and rpm problem

[victorgv]

So anybody fixed it ?
It is not problem with MC i did try a few different versions
Norvell Spearman wrote:
> 
> victor gvirtsman wrote:
> >
> > I installed Mandrake 7.1 and now i have problem with midnight commander-
> > When listing it is not case sensitive even when marked case sensitive in
> > sort options
> > when looking at rpm file it does not show full content instead you see
> > file  CONTENTS.cpio
> > does not sort properly files starting with dot just put's them in a
> > middle of list.
> 
> I believe the problem is with that version of midnight commander.  When
> I was using 7.0, I installed the helix-code gnome 1.2 which installed a
> newer version of midnight commander.  After that, I could no longer
> browse into rpms as I could before (mc still works with tar.gz files,
> however).
> 
> Anyone else already figured out how to fix this?
> 
> ---Norvell Spearman

[expert] Zip Drive Compatibility

[Joe Heafner]

Greetings.

After much thought, I have come to the conclusion that a Zip Drive will
be my most economical and most efficient cross-platform backup solution.
I'm probably going to Best Buy this evening to pick one up. I need to
know if there are any concerns regarding the model. I'd prefer a
parallel port model. Will any capacity work?

Thanks,
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[expert] Hardware removal and configuring modem

[Seak, Teng-Fong]

 I've still got Mandrake 7.0.  I've removed the older Voodoo
graphic card from the PC and when I rebooted Linux, WOW, kudzu was
launched to tell me that the Voodoo card was removed and asked me if I
wanted to do such and such, etc.  I'm really impressioned.

 However, I'm thinking if the modem could be configured similarly,
it'd be very nice.  Actually, the so-called "modem configuration "just
consists of asking what port the modem is connected to and make a
symbolic link to /dev/ttySx.  If a novice user doesn't even know what
a port is or where it is, this configuration is useless.  I'm pretty
sure this can be done more intelligently, ie, sending signals to a
port and waiting for responses from this one to determine if a modem
is connected to such and such port.

 Fong

Re: [expert] rpmdrake and URLs

[Fran Parker]

actually that is not root per se, it is su

Bambi


Patrick Erler wrote:

> hallo Expert!
>
> can someone point me to HTTP or FTP urls which i can enter into
> rpmdrake or kpackage, so that i can install packages from the net?
>
> PAT
> --
>
> vcard/LDAP/PGP: http://dresden-online.com/~perler/identity.html
> PGP fingerprint: DAC6 2FDA 1ED7 AD55  BD1F 5142 3D5F 72BF

Re: [expert] rpmdrake and URLs

[Fran Parker]

BTW:  I use gnorpm from the terminal window as root in KDE.

Bambi


Patrick Erler wrote:

> hallo Expert!
>
> can someone point me to HTTP or FTP urls which i can enter into
> rpmdrake or kpackage, so that i can install packages from the net?
>
> PAT
> --
>
> vcard/LDAP/PGP: http://dresden-online.com/~perler/identity.html
> PGP fingerprint: DAC6 2FDA 1ED7 AD55  BD1F 5142 3D5F 72BF

[expert] Upgrade on Software root RAID

[Marc Bourget]

Hi,

I'm trying to upgrade MDK 7.0 system with a software raid0 root. It
seems that everything is in place to do it since I manadged to manually
start and mount the array. The problem is that the installer dont offer
you any choice over choosing a root on an md device.

Did someone managed to do it automaticly or even manually. I wold really
apreciate some help on this thing since the only other way I have is to
reinstall everything from scratch. (We all know this is a bad thing!)

--
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Re: [expert] rpmdrake and URLs

[Fran Parker]

why not try gnorpm from terminal window as root while
connected it will update itself and then you will have rpms
from the net to choose from.

Bambi


Patrick Erler wrote:

> hallo Expert!
>
> can someone point me to HTTP or FTP urls which i can enter into
> rpmdrake or kpackage, so that i can install packages from the net?
>
> PAT
> --
>
> vcard/LDAP/PGP: http://dresden-online.com/~perler/identity.html
> PGP fingerprint: DAC6 2FDA 1ED7 AD55  BD1F 5142 3D5F 72BF

Re: [expert] Real PLayer

[Fran Parker]

Wonder if this is connected somehow to why I can't get a live
stream from Live365.com?  It apparently uses  'm3u' and 'pls'
extensions on the live stuff.  'pls' was already in my xmms setup
and I added in netscape the extensions to realplayer and it tries
to open it but won't play anything but the realplayer 'theme'
...just can't get it to connect to the live365 stream.

I have a direct link address for a weekly radio program that
is live streaming on mp3 format (different site entirely)
and go direct through xmms with no problem.  And can
get live radio broadcasts fine (that are not in the new
media player format)...i.e. from Yahoo Broadcast.

I am at a loss for how to do this as well.

Bambi



"Werner E. Niebel" wrote:

> James,
>
> I agree with much of your accessment.  OK here is the weird thing... When I
> upgraded to Mandrake 7.1 this only started happenning... Yesterday I tried to
> connect to Dr Dean Edel and then could not .. I quick rebooted and tried in
> Mandrake 7.0 (since I installed them on separte partitions) and I could reboot
> in 7.0... It seems to either be a Mandrake 7.1 problem or Netscape or
> something I had in configuration that got overwritten.  Im trying to
> troubleshoot this but it only has a problem with real time streams... I can
> connect to businesstalkradio fine yet other sites I cant.  Incidentally if I
> try to get Dr Dean archives it works fine.. Its only with some real time
> streams...
>
> Any additional advice you or anyone has would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks
>
> Werner
>
> James Sparenberg wrote:
>
> > Werner,
> >  There could be a couple of reasons that you can't connect and they
> > aren't your fault.  Since you can connect to the one site that indicates
> > that your set up correctly (however this could be a bad assumption on my
> > part I really doubt if it is.)
> >   1.  Rush's site is so slow or overloaded at the time you are trying to
> > connect that it's just taking forever for RPlayer to get the data it needs
> > and it's timing out or freezing.
> >   2.  The webmaster at rushes site made a typo on the page and as a result
> > it can't connect correctly.
> >   3.  Since realplayer for linux is in a state of perpetual beta testing it
> > could be unable to connect due to some weird Windoze only feature the
> > webmaster has enacted.
> >   4.  The people at Real.com are liberals and they have added software to
> > block Rush. :)
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > James
> >
> > At 10:46 AM 6/22/00, you wrote:
> > >Hi there,
> > >
> > >I had real player working and dont know what is going on in 7.1.  If I
> > >go to a site like
> > >
> > >www.businesstalkradio.net and try to listen it works fine with the
> > >streaming audio...When I go to something like
> > >
> > >www.rushlimbaugh.com
> > >
> > >it doesnt work... Real player executes and says "contacting" forever yet
> > >never gets the stream...Anyone out there know what the netscape file
> > >structure and plugins well enough to help me out diagnose what is
> > >wrong...
> > >
> > >Thanks
> > >
> > >Werner

[expert] [SOT] controling turbeo KED

[Patrick Erler]

hallo Expert!

slightly off topic, does anyone know if it is possible to switch the
turbo LED on and off via software? i would like to use it as an
online/offline LED on my router...


PAT
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[expert] apache user list?

[Gavin Clark]

Anyone know of an apache user mailing list?

I can't seem to find one.

Gavin

Re: [expert] help!

[John Aldrich]

On Fri, 23 Jun 2000, you wrote:
> I did something really dumb and did a  CP /lib /home/lib
> and RM -R /lib
> in order to move the /lib to another disk..
> Now I am in BASH, and no command works!
> I get:
> mail:/bin# sh
> bash: /bin/sh: No such file or directory
> mail:/bin# ls
> bash: /bin/ls: No such file or directory
> 
> any ideas?
> 
> Thanks, -turgut
> 
Have you booted off a rescue disk and made a symbolic link
to /home/lib so that when Linux goes looking for /lib, it
can find it? If not, do so immediately. Do this: as root,
type "touch lib" in /. Then make a symbolic link between
the file you just created and /home/lib.
John

[expert] su - user -c "command" doesn't load profile

[Jasper Spit]

Hi,

On Mandrake 7.0 when you do a su -  -c "command" from the root
account,
's profile is not loaded. When you just do a su - , it works OK.

This is very annoying, I need to create a script that runs as root and
executes some
commands as another user. I can't get this to work right now.
Even su -  -c ". .profile; echo $ORACLE_HOME" doesn't work.

How can I get this fixed ? I can't remember having this problem on Red Hat
or SuSE.
I upgraded to the newest sh-utils, but that didn't help either.

Also, su doesn't return the correct errorcode if you use the -c flag, it
always returns 0.
This works fine on e.g. HP/UX and Sun Solaris.

Thanks for the help,

Jasper

Re: [expert] LT winmodem with MDK 7.1?

[Tom Massey]

Hi Norvell - I'm sending a cc of this to the Mandrake Expert list,
because there's probably somebody there who can comment on this better
than I can.

Norvell Spearman wrote (with regards to the idea of using the 2.2.14
ppp.o module with the 2.2.16 kernel):

> Could the above solution possibly work for a tape drive problem I'm
> having?  My tape drive isn't working with Mandrake 7.1 where it works
> perfectly with 7.0.  I'm including my previous posting to expert.  I've
> already tried changing the block size with an mt command (before running
> tar), but with no success.  Upgrading the kernel to 2.2.16-4mdk didn't
> help either.

It'd be worth a try I think.

> And instead of recompiling 2.2.14, could I not simply find ide-tape.o in
> the kernel-2.2.14 rpm and use it?

Possibly - I'm just not sure if the .o file would be included in the
RPM. I think it probably would be so long as you don't mean the source
RPM - the source RPM just has code that you need to compile before you
use it. If you can find ide-tape.o from a 2.2.14 RPM then it'd probably
work.

You'd still need to change the kernel version in ide-tape.o to make it
work without error messages - this is not hard to do, you just have to
load the module into a text editor (eg Emacs) and change the 2.2.14 to
2.2.16 or whatever kernel you're using. You'd have to check which kernel
it is exactly if you're using a Mandrake modified one - typing 'cat
/proc/version' in a terminal will give this to you. Then you put the
module you've modified in place of the one that's already there -
somewhere in /lib/modules/2.2.16/ probably - (good idea to make a backup
called ide-tape.o.old or whatever) and then 'insmod ide-tape'. You may
have to 'rmmod ide-tape' first to unload the old module.

Please remember though that dropping back to an earlier module isn't
really a solution, and this technique probably won't work with kernel
2.4. Please feel free to email me if you have any problems following
these instructions. Hope this helps.

Tom

[expert] postfix or sendmail "tempting"

[ago]

Hi all!

I've got the job to make accepting mails to an e-mail 
address a bit unusual. What's unusual. I will explain. When
a mail arrives to the address it shouldn't appear in the
/var/spool/mail immediately. Because there is  daemon which
scans the mailbox all the time and as soon as it sees a mail
arriving it takes it from the box and passes it to a program
which works on it and then sends the output to a database. But
when the mail starts to arrive the system starts to write 
it to the disk immediately. ..And the daemon takes of , let's
say the first 15 bytes (From, mal client etc.) but not
whole letter. That's the problem because the body contains the
datas to the program. The only solution I see is to move it
temporarly to a /temp box or directory and as soon as the whole
mail arrived pass it to the accurate mailbox so the daemon could
catch it to delivery(the whole mail) to the program. Oh, yes,
and all the headers have to be untouched so the From and 
Reply to and Envelope _must_ be the same as they arrived. 
The ASCII art to this (as I imagine) :

mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --> temporary box/dir(until closed) -->
--> [EMAIL PROTECTED] /--> daemon --> program --> DB2/

How can I do it with postfix (preferable) or sendmail or any other
sendmail compatible MTA
RTFMs and HOWTOs are welcomed.
Thanx,
Ago

Re: [expert] CDROM, PICO, and Web Server in 7.1

[Warren Doney]

pico comes with the package "pine", Apache will
be there somewhere, & sorry, can't help with the CD.

-WBD

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 4:10 AM
Subject: [expert] CDROM, PICO, and Web Server in 7.1


> Hi Gang,
>
> I just installed the latest 7.1 on a system.  A couple things went wrong:
>
> #1. After it installs all the packages from disk #1, it prompts me for
disk #2.  However, my CDROM drive is frozen - I can't eject it!  Even when I
physically unplug it, switch disks, and plug it back in again, LM doesn't
see the disk.  What's up with that?  Tried another CDROM drive, thinking
there was something wrong with the one, but same story.
>
> #2. I noticed the PICO editor didn't get installed.  Where can I get that?
>
> #3. I want to have a http server running on this machine.  I didn't see
any server software get installed.  Didn't see any Apache stuff in the list
of RPMs on the disk either.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Bob
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Re: [expert] rpmdrake and URLs

[Guillaume Rousse]

For cooker, you have
ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS/
ftp://rpmfind.net/linux/MandrakeCooker/contrib/RPMS/
I never achieved to enter them via rpmdrake mask, is used instead in-line
command urpmi.addpackage   with 

Also sprach sam, 24 jun 2000 :
> hallo Expert!
> 
> can someone point me to HTTP or FTP urls which i can enter into
> rpmdrake or kpackage, so that i can install packages from the net?
> 
> 
> PAT
> --
> 
> 
> vcard/LDAP/PGP: http://dresden-online.com/~perler/identity.html
> PGP fingerprint: DAC6 2FDA 1ED7 AD55  BD1F 5142 3D5F 72BF
-- 
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Iremia - Université de la Réunion

Sleep doesn't exists. Just lack of cafeine.

[expert] rpmdrake and URLs

[Patrick Erler]

hallo Expert!

can someone point me to HTTP or FTP urls which i can enter into
rpmdrake or kpackage, so that i can install packages from the net?


PAT
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Re: [expert] Gnome background not accepting changes

[Andrew George]

On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, you wrote:
> BS''D
> 
> Hi Andrew,
> 
> > I've tried it in GCC, Ive tried in in Window manager config and I've tried it
> > by right clicking on the desktop...smae story every time...it lasts for a
> > session and then I'm where I was
> > also..I've just noticed that Gnome-Terminal has started doing the same thing :(
> 
> that sounds not good ... do you have in you ~/.gnome directory a file named
> "Background"? mine looks like 
> 
> [Default]
> color1=#39374b
> color2=#42528f
> Enabled=true
> simple=gradient
> gradient=vertical
> wallpaper=/z-sources/X/pics/All-Good-People-4.jpg
> wallpaperAlign=0
> wallpaper0=/z-sources/X/pics/All-Good-People-4.jpg
> wallpapers=1
> 
> this should load the desired background
> 
> Best,
> 
> Daniel.

Hi Daniel
THank for your help, I figured it out
Seems the splash screen was changing the color somehow and it wasn't refreshing
from teh Background file

Re: [expert] adding packages

[Daryl Pawluk]

Patrick Erler wrote:

> hallo Daryl!
>
> on Saturday, June 24, 2000, 4:18:00 AM, you wrote:
>
> DP> Patrick Erler wrote:
>
> >> hallo Expert!
> >>
> >> maybe i'm stupid, but i can't find a way to add packages after the
> >> installation of mandrake 7.1, i miss the rpm installer too... and i
> >> haven't the harddrake.. i did a simple costum install with all
> >> packages beside sound and multimedia and stuff which went (nearly)
> >> seamless...
> >>
> >> PAT
> >> --
> >>
> >> vcard/LDAP/PGP: http://dresden-online.com/~perler/identity.html
> >> PGP fingerprint: DAC6 2FDA 1ED7 AD55  BD1F 5142 3D5F 72BF
>
> DP> surely rpm is installed. it's certainly in the distribution. use rpm to
> DP> install rpmdrake. then use rpmdrake to install whatever else you need.
> but there is no such thing like rpmdrake (at least not, when i search
> for it with webmin..)
>
> the strange thing is, that i have drakeconf, but it has only the
> modules
>
>xconfig
>xresolution
>user addition
>drakboot
>security level
>startup services
>keybord choice
>linuxconf
>mousedrake
>network config
>printerconfig
>
> no update, no harddrake no nothing...
>
> PAT
>
> PAT
> --
>
> vcard/LDAP/PGP: http://dresden-online.com/~perler/identity.html
> PGP fingerprint: DAC6 2FDA 1ED7 AD55  BD1F 5142 3D5F 72BF

to see what all is missing look in /etc/DrakConf. there is an .rc file for
each module that DrakConf can load:

XFdrake.rc   diskdrake.rc  draksec.rckeyboarddrake.rc
mandrakeupdate.rc  printerdrake.rc
Xdrakres.rc  drakboot.rc   drakxservices.rc  kpackage.rc
mousedrake.rc  rpmdrake.rc
adduserdrake.rc  drakfont.rc   harddrake.rc  linuxconf.rc  netconf.rc

the packages names for the most part are the same as the .rc files.

Re: [expert] adding packages

[Daryl Pawluk]

Patrick Erler wrote:

> hallo Daryl!
>
> on Saturday, June 24, 2000, 4:18:00 AM, you wrote:
>
> DP> Patrick Erler wrote:
>
> >> hallo Expert!
> >>
> >> maybe i'm stupid, but i can't find a way to add packages after the
> >> installation of mandrake 7.1, i miss the rpm installer too... and i
> >> haven't the harddrake.. i did a simple costum install with all
> >> packages beside sound and multimedia and stuff which went (nearly)
> >> seamless...
> >>
> >> PAT
> >> --
> >>
> >> vcard/LDAP/PGP: http://dresden-online.com/~perler/identity.html
> >> PGP fingerprint: DAC6 2FDA 1ED7 AD55  BD1F 5142 3D5F 72BF
>
> DP> surely rpm is installed. it's certainly in the distribution. use rpm to
> DP> install rpmdrake. then use rpmdrake to install whatever else you need.
> but there is no such thing like rpmdrake (at least not, when i search
> for it with webmin..)
>
> the strange thing is, that i have drakeconf, but it has only the
> modules
>
>xconfig
>xresolution
>user addition
>drakboot
>security level
>startup services
>keybord choice
>linuxconf
>mousedrake
>network config
>printerconfig
>
> no update, no harddrake no nothing...
>
> PAT
>
> PAT
> --
>
> vcard/LDAP/PGP: http://dresden-online.com/~perler/identity.html
> PGP fingerprint: DAC6 2FDA 1ED7 AD55  BD1F 5142 3D5F 72BF

find your distribution. go to the Mandrake/RPMS subdirectory. enter this
command:

rpm -Uvh rpmdrake*

they may be unsatisfied dependencies. make a list of them. then enter

rpm -Uvh rpmdrake* * * ...

you can either list them all together in one command, or enter

rpm -Uvh --nodeps rpmdrake*
rpm -Uvh --nodeps *
...
and so on. --nodeps ignores the dependencies. if something still refuses to
install use:

rpm -Uvh --nodeps --force rpmdrake*
rpm -Uvh --nodeps --force *
...

what's happened is that all the rpm's that were required by DrakConf were not
installed. this has happened to me as well before.

once you have rpmdrake installed, it will check dependencies for you
automatically and will install everything it needs at once without your having
to screw around.

good luck!

[expert] Yahoo! Auto Response

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Re: [expert] So,anybody fixed mc in 7.1?

[LinuxGeek]

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Re[2]: [expert] adding packages

[Patrick Erler]

hallo Daryl!

on Saturday, June 24, 2000, 4:18:00 AM, you wrote:

DP> Patrick Erler wrote:

>> hallo Expert!
>>
>> maybe i'm stupid, but i can't find a way to add packages after the
>> installation of mandrake 7.1, i miss the rpm installer too... and i
>> haven't the harddrake.. i did a simple costum install with all
>> packages beside sound and multimedia and stuff which went (nearly)
>> seamless...
>>
>> PAT
>> --
>>
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>> PGP fingerprint: DAC6 2FDA 1ED7 AD55  BD1F 5142 3D5F 72BF

DP> surely rpm is installed. it's certainly in the distribution. use rpm to
DP> install rpmdrake. then use rpmdrake to install whatever else you need.
but there is no such thing like rpmdrake (at least not, when i search
for it with webmin..)

the strange thing is, that i have drakeconf, but it has only the
modules

   xconfig
   xresolution
   user addition
   drakboot
   security level
   startup services
   keybord choice
   linuxconf
   mousedrake
   network config
   printerconfig

no update, no harddrake no nothing...


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Re: [expert] Mouseconfig question.

[LinuxGeek]

hi ! 

hd donation ? hehe i got 1 to sell though ..
try mouseconfig or mousedrake for your mouse
what's wrong with your backspace key ? just doesn't work ?
hmm ... maybe it's disfunctional ? donno ...


Yer Daddy wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am looking for the place where it tells you how to set up a three
> button sierial mouse for the laptop.  I found it once, but I can't
> remember4 where it was.  It said to select a certain mouse type and do
> thjis and that 
> 
> also how the heck to get the damn backspace button to work?  where do
> you find thazt out?
> 
> Thanks for listening to my stupid questions.
> 
> All donations fo ra new hdd accepted .  thats; why I am having these
> troubles.
> 
> Ivan.



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Re: [expert] troubles with star office

[LinuxGeek]

try running it from your hd 


James Sparenberg wrote:
> 
> All,
> I've got a box with Mandrake 7.1 that I'm trying to install Star Office
> on.  But I've run into the following problem.  It seems that whenever I
> type the ./setup command after going into the directory on the cdrom it
> keeps giving me a Permission denied error.  I've checked permissions and
> they are read execute.  I'm logged into kde as root.  (I've also done a
> ctrl/alt/f3 and tried it from the command line logged in as root) and I get
> the same permission denied error.  No other errors are present.  Since I
> can navigate to the directory on the cdrom I know it's mounted and I've
> checked permissions up the chain and they are all in line. In short I'm
> having trouble finding any difference between this box and another one that
> I have already installed Star Office on. Any suggestions?  Thanks for your
> time.
> 
> James
> 
> I haven't gotten a copy of this letter in about an hour so I am resending I
> apologize if you are receiving this twice.

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Re: [expert] How will this effect Mandrake?

[Jean-Michel Dault]

I sent this message to MandrakeSoft's mailing list. If I receive replies,
I'll post a summary.

Jean-Michel Dault
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, vern wrote:

> Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:23:51 -0400
> From: vern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [expert] How will this effect Mandrake?
> 
> I read this on freshmeat today and wondered if it
> will have an impact on the way Mandrake does business?
> vern
> 
> 
> 
>   subject: Possible Threat to French Open Source Sites
>  added by: jeff covey on Jun 21st 2000, 07:40
>  category: Editorial
> 
> body:
> John Fremlin writes: Next week, the French National Assembly will
> vote on appending a chapter to the law limiting freedom of
> communication. As written, it would unambiguously prohibit hosting of
> content of unspecified provenance; that is, sites on which users could
> post material would be legally obligated to somehow determine the true
> identities and postal addresses of their users. The free software
> community is directly affected, as large Open Source projects don't
> have the requisite information about their contributors and could not
> legally be made available in France. Incidentally, several Open Source
> projects are hosted by altern.org (for example, consoletools and all
> of my programs), which would have to shut down.
> |> http://freshmeat.net/news/2000/06/21/961587656.html
>