date:20051105

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> From '82-'88 I lived in FF, my partners and I had Perfect Health
> Products, Inc. At that time there were only a couple of other
> importers of ayurvedic products directly from India. We hooked up 
with
> a guy named Richard Forrest who was in Florida and had already 
created
> the channel for getting products in. We then acquired a very highly
> though of ayurvedic doctor in India as our advisors. This was Dr.
> Bhagwan Dass who was an advisor to the World Health Organization. 
We
> formed the Ayurveda Corporation and Dr. Vasant Ladd was on our 
Board
> and we met with him in NYC. We were importing pre-existing
> formulations and packaging them outselves. We were working with
> several large companies in India, we had an investor and I was 
about
> to head to India to take our business to a much larger lever. 
> 
> At this point in time, the TM org had not entered the business of
> ayurveda. 
> 
> We had a good relationship with the powers to be of the TM org. We
> maintained regular contact with the Office of the President who 
knew
> exactly what it was we were doing as we told him very explicity. 
One
> day, in our little office in one of the high-rises, we received a
> phone call from Bevan's secretary who read us a quote which 
said, "At
> this time, Maharishi has announced his intention to get involved 
with
> ayurveda and all Governors who are involved in selling ayurvedic
> products should stop."
> 
> Of course we could have continued, and in retrospect I'm sure I 
would
> have done things differently. But my parnter and I chose to stop. 




Ha ha.

Sucker.








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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >  
> >   Were you in the Production side or Marketing side of the 
Ayurvedic
> business.??  May I know why the TM-org told you to stop your 
business.??
> >  
> >   'SriSri Ayurveda' by SriSri.Ravishankar seems to be doing 
well. 
> It's based in Bangalore in India.  'Dabur-india' and 'Himalaya & 
co'
> are well known companies
> >  
> > ---OriginalMessage--
> > From: "anonymousff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   
> > Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 21:35:52 - 
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Letter from Farrokh - Now 
Situation
> in India 
> > 
> >  >> I was in the ayurvedic business before the TM org got 
>>involved
> and, in fact, got told to stop by the TM org.
> > 
> > >>Bazaar of India (http://www.bazaarofindia.com/)of >>Berkeley, 
CA
> They are known for their high quality >>raw (powdered) herbs, all 
of
> which are organically >>grown.
> >  
> > >>2) Banyan Botanicals (http://www.banyanbotanicals.com/)These 
are
> both >>excellent companies. Banyan makes more formulas than 
>>Bazaar
> of India, but B of I also makes formulas in >>addition to raw 
herbs.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Mantras: Letter from Farrokh

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> --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
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> > on 11/3/05 3:23 PM, bbrigante at
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > > During the proper practice of TM, the mantras are
> > indeed meaningless
> > > sounds (TM properly practiced has nothing to with
> > any meaning one
> > > might assign to the mantras, but to their use as a
> > vehicle of
> > > attention, a sound resonating with the mind in a
> > way that leads to
> > > transcendence). Outside of the practice of TM, if
> > Hindus want to
> > > assign meanings to the sounds, that has nothing to
> > do with the
> > > practice of TM. 
> > 
> > Mantras are effective by virtue of the energy and
> > intelligence imbued in
> > them or associated with them. You tickle a Devata,
> > the Devata tickles you
> > back. Indians understand this, and I've heard
> > Maharishi talk about it. He
> > just emphasized the meaningless sound bit to make TM
> > palatable in the West.
> 
> But the mantras in TM are, in the usual sense of the
> term, meaningless. They don't literally mean anything
> in sanscrit (at least the 1st technique). Now, they
> are associated with particular devatas or more
> accurately thay are the seed-sound form of the devata.
> So, they don't mean anything, but they are the devata!




Command you me.

The mantra (devata) is there to do your bidding.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Anklesaria's' position with the TMO

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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > And find a picture of Maharishi and shake your
> > > > > finger at him and 
> > > > > tell him what a bastard he is, if it makes you feel
> > > > > better. 
> > > > > Then...on to the next injustice in the world.
> > > > 
> > > > Excellent suggestion! Like Guru Dev used to say, don't
> > > > give me your money and gifts, give me your sins! Who
> > > > better to yell at than MMY. Like the ocean accepting
> > > > all the mud from the rivers draining into it. What an
> > > > honor to have the absolute in human form for you to
> > > > crap out your attachments. THAT'S ONE REASON WHY YOU
> > > > ARE IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM. Crap away!!! 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Since when did I sign on to a guru-disciple relationship?
> > > 
> > > I thought the TM technique was not predicated on a religion or 
> > > philosophy...
> > > 
> > 
> > Since when did you pay $1 million for a month's attention from 
MMY?
> >
> 
> 
> Huh?
>

That's what people like Lynch and Millionaires' club folk have done 
for access...






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[FairfieldLife] Re: LA Yoga mag on TM, Lynch

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
[...]
> It is pretty bad, isn't it? I could understand a
> couple of hundred bucks for your average working stiff
> and a sliding fee scale for others.
> 
>

MMY has stated quite clearly that he's targeting the filthy rich these 
days.





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Letter from Farrokh - Now Situation in India

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>  
>  
> I have used 'Maharishi Ayurveda' and 'Sri Sri Ayurveda' 
products by SriSri.Ravishankarji.  Looks OK, but,
>  
> You should walk into many of the thousands of small  Herbal 
medicine production units in india.  Formulas are not always 
followed.  If an ingredient is not available it is left out.  Raw 
materials dumped on the floor and people walking in through them with 
their dirty feet.!!
>  
>  But that is not all.  There is a huge Fake allopathy medicine 
racket going on in india.  For example common antibiotic, say for 
example ciproflaxin.  White talcum powder in neatly packed into 
capsules stamped as ciproflaxin and marketed.
>  
>   The racket became so huge that the indian govt recently 
introduced death penalty for the offence.
>  


Are you referring to MA facilities specifically?

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> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 09:01:44 - 
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Letter from Farrokh - Now 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: FWD Mother Meera to Visit America

2005-11-05 Thread bmorry2000

Just click on the email address and send your message--the address 
is there, just hidden to avert spammers.  That's what I did.  
However, no reply yet

Please post the address or website, if you can get it.

Thanks.

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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" 
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> > Late breaking news:
> > 
> > 
> > FWD:
> > Mother Meera in America
> > 
> > U.S.A. and Canada: May 19-June 12, 2006
> > 
> > Contact information: Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] to express interest in 
> > Mother Meera's darshan and to be put on the email list for early 
> > notification of Mother's exact itinerary and reservation 
details. Or 
> > phone 641 472 5149
> >
> 
> Doug, how can I get this email address? 
> anon3
>

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FWD Mother Meera to Visit America

on 11/5/05 7:59 PM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> Late breaking news:
>> 
>> 
>> FWD:
>> Mother Meera in America
>> 
>> U.S.A. and Canada: May 19-June 12, 2006
>> 
>> Contact information: Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] to express interest in
>> Mother Meera's darshan and to be put on the email list for early
>> notification of Mother's exact itinerary and reservation details. Or
>> phone 641 472 5149
>> 
> 
> Doug, how can I get this email address?

It's mother (at) iglide.net

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[FairfieldLife] Ascension Tools for Ascension

2005-11-05 Thread Blue Star

From: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/circle2012dreams/

Tools For ComfortA brief note: Not all of our physical and emotional discomfort can belabeled as an "ascension symptom". There are certainly times when weare just not well, period. For instance, we can easily have a cold orflu and not be clearing at all.a cigar is sometimes just a cigar.Rest. Rest. Rest. Your body is going through an incredibletransformation and is on over-load. For those highly sensitives withfragile nervous systems, rest can make all the difference. I havefound that severely limiting my activities and attending to extremeself-care has made a considerable difference. It also has a naturalby-product of putting you in the higher realms.Water is key. Perhaps the most helpful support of all is water. Itcleanses us, neutralizes us and has many other attributes yet
to bediscovered. Drink lots and lots of it, submerge yourself in it andmove through it (preferably a pool) and program it through yourintention to do what you desire. Exercise, water and letting go andtrusting are the most essential supports.Find your own personal supports that vibrate as you do, whether theybe acupuncture, yoga, breathwork, or mainstream therapy, etc. Feelingsupported and not alone can do wonders. In addition, absolutely everyone of us is being supported by our families of origin from the starsand our ascension guides. They are here to make sure that we are notgiven more than we can handle and that we are ALWAYS provided for. Wecannot possibly end up out in the street destitute and alone! We arethe stars of this incredible show and we are totally being watchedover and guided.Three important keys: Stay as grounded as possible (it's easy now togo into much higher realms than we may
want to. The Earth is alsoascending, and she will welcome and embrace us if we anchor into her),maintain healthy boundaries (there is a lot of energy flying aroundout there being released and part of the way you may be feeling is notyou), and be in the moment.Really, really trust. If you can let go and stay open and out of theway, you will receive a tremendous amount of help.Be in your creativity as much as possible. The higher energies cravecreativity, and you will naturally, automatically and comfortably beelevated into the higher realms, as well as opening a channel for thatenergy to flow more easily.Try not to resist the process. I have found that fear and resistanceto the ascension process only creates an unpleasant experience.Everything is in divine right order. Again, we all have our ownspecial non-physical beings monitoring our process (I have seenthem!), and we will not be allowed to go "too
far" into a danger zone.We are never given more than we can handle, even though sometimes itseems otherwise! At one point my ascension guide told me that myattitude, fears and resistance were creating about 50% more discomfortthan necessary.Monitor your thoughts. This is also key. Higher and positive thoughtswill immediately place you in the higher realms, as well as assistgreatly in what you are creating. Find a "feel good" vision foryourself and use it often. I frequently envision my perfect life inall ways. Know it will arrive. You have the vision because you aresupposed to be living it!Let your soul guide you. We tend to want to be in control of what isgoing on and may "over do" grasping for some kind of relief. If youlet go and ask, your soul will bring to you the messages you need(whether through another person, a book, an e-mail, etc.), and is agreat navigator for a smoother and more pleasant
transition. I havefound that "less is more". The process itself has its own way ofgetting you where you need to go, and you can easily overstimulateyourself by trying to take charge or "over remedy-ing" yourself.If you are guided to supplemental support, take it. Adrenal supporthas assisted me greatly. Our bodies are working overtime. Relaxingherbs are good as well.Although doctors may be baffled by your symptoms, as you don't fitinto their "niches", they still may be of help. Our bodies have beenthrown out of balance and you may have a chemical imbalance, ahormonal imbalance, a thyroid imbalance, or anything else that canbenefit from a doctor's diagnosis. Doctors seem to be catching on, andare really coming around. My docotors and nurses in Asheville, NCfrequently told me about surrounding myself with white light, beingmindful not to take on the energies of others and that I was
releasingpast lives. They are out there!Spend as much time in nature as you can. The sky is still blue, thesun is still rising and nature is still blooming and thriving. Itfeels good to connect.Get plenty of exercise. If you are too tired to exercise, trywalking. It is important to keep things moving.Soak up the sun. The sun carries the vibration of the New energy andit really helps to be out in it daily.

[FairfieldLife] Re: FWD Mother Meera to Visit America

2005-11-05 Thread anonymousff

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" 
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>
> Late breaking news:
> 
> 
> FWD:
> Mother Meera in America
> 
> U.S.A. and Canada: May 19-June 12, 2006
> 
> Contact information: Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] to express interest in 
> Mother Meera's darshan and to be put on the email list for early 
> notification of Mother's exact itinerary and reservation details. Or 
> phone 641 472 5149
>

Doug, how can I get this email address? 
anon3

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Unlimited fuel source?

2005-11-05 Thread uns_tressor

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> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,3605,1627424,00.html
> > 
> > 
> > Fuel's paradise? Power source that turns physics on its head 
> > 
> > · Scientist says device disproves quantum theory 
> > · Opponents claim idea is result of wrong maths 

Blimey. Keith Tutt's book "The Scientist, the 
Madman, the Thief and their Lightbulb" was published 
four years ago. Like Rip van winkle, the Guardian 
has woken up.(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jlnlabs/) 
Uns. 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Pundits on Canadian islands?

2005-11-05 Thread Sal Sunshine

I know, it's terrible and I am truly shocked.  Any more of that and someone will have to call up Bevan and have Rick's dome badge revoked.

Sal


On Nov 5, 2005, at 10:54 AM, Peter wrote:

 > Don't worry, nothing will be built there and no
 > pundits will come.

 Rick, such the cynic.

[FairfieldLife] TM B-day chants

How about finding a cure for AIDS, establishing world peace,
discovering an
unlimited source of free energy, reversing global warming, etc.
You're got
the time, right?
***

As far as world peace and global warming.I can't change people.
But tell you what, If I ever figure out a cure for aids or discover zero
point energy I'll give it to you - k?
My advice after that would be run like hell before "the man" catches you
lol. 
I've always thought that if someone does figure anything on those lines out,
they better get the info spreading fast before they're sniped. Would be fun
though, wouldn't it? Wouldn't make money off of it, but *just* to piss of
the powers that be would be priceless (bwa haha)!

**
It used to be in TM gatherings, and probably still is, that on
people's
birthdays everyone would chant "long, long life in the direction of
immortality to our dear, already-enlightened (name)". That's why I
said
that, even though I knew you didn't have a TM background.

**

Ok, as long as you swear you weren't making fun of me ;)







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Mantra, Devata, Divinity

2005-11-05 Thread johnlasher20002000

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "mainstream20016"
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > on 11/3/05 12:38 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:

Snip 
>   Mantra - a meaningless sound whose effects are known, as it should
be. A very 
> special gift in a very modest package, indeed.
> Jai Guru Dev. And thanks to you, MMY.  -   mainstream 20016

And when MMY used Ram as a mantra were the effects different from the
bija mantras?

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RE: [FairfieldLife] Happy Birthday Paula

2005-11-05 Thread gullible fool

Happy Birthday, Paula!! 

--- Paula Youmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Happy Birthday to our dear, already-enlightened
> Paula Youmans! Long, long
> wakeful life in the direction of immortality, and
> all that. 
> 
>  
> 
> Haha.Thanks Rick. I hardly think I am already
> enlightened.call it a hunch ;)
> . Hell, I don't even like to think of myself as a
> "grown-up" yet (and don't
> you dare tell me otherwise)!
> 
> 31.can you believe that ?!?! Oy, I really need to do
> something with my
> life..
> 
> At least I'm having a good time :-)
> 
>  
> 
> Immortality.hmmm, that sounds scary. There's a lot
> to be said for starting
> over all fresh and new :-D
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Happy Birthday Paula

on 11/5/05 2:37 PM, Paula Youmans at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Ok, lemme try again…sometimes stuff just disappears ☺
> 
>  wakeful life in the direction of  
> Haha…Thanks Rick. I hardly think I am already enlightened…call it a hunch ;) .
> Hell, I don’t even like to think of myself as a “grown-up” yet (and don’t you
> dare tell me otherwise)!
> 31…can you believe that ?!?!

So you're not a grown-up. Just a kid still. Me too, and I'm 56. Peter Pan
syndrome I guess.

>Oy, I really need to do something with my life….

How about finding a cure for AIDS, establishing world peace, discovering an
unlimited source of free energy, reversing global warming, etc. You're got
the time, right?

> At least I’m having a good time ☺

That's something. And I'll bet you'll have one all your life.
> 
> Immortality…hmmm, that sounds scary. There’s a lot to be said for starting
> over all fresh and new :-D

It used to be in TM gatherings, and probably still is, that on people's
birthdays everyone would chant "long, long life in the direction of
immortality to our dear, already-enlightened (name)". That's why I said
that, even though I knew you didn't have a TM background.

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[FairfieldLife] ayurveda (was Re: Was Letter from Farrokh - Now Situation in India)

2005-11-05 Thread Ingegerd

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 11/5/05 11:20 AM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > We had a good relationship with the powers to be of the TM org. 
We
> > maintained regular contact with the Office of the President who 
knew
> > exactly what it was we were doing as we told him very explicity. 
One
> > day, in our little office in one of the high-rises, we received a
> > phone call from Bevan's secretary who read us a quote which 
said, "At
> > this time, Maharishi has announced his intention to get involved 
with
> > ayurveda and all Governors who are involved in selling ayurvedic
> > products should stop."
> > 
> > Of course we could have continued, and in retrospect I'm sure I 
would
> > have done things differently. But my parnter and I chose to stop.
> 
> If you had chosen to continue, you would have lost your dome 
badges, as did
> some semi-professional jyotishis.

And maybe be threaten in other ways from the TMO. As one TM-Teacher 
in Norway who wanted to start import of Ayurvedic Products from 
India,outside the TMO, experienced. It seems that MMY and his 
nephews want to have the Monopol of selling the Products. When I 
first visited Triguna in New Dehli - the consultation and herb 
products for one year, did cost me about one Dollar. Now - I don't 
know - I don't use them anymore.
Ingegerd
>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Pundits on Canadian islands?

2005-11-05 Thread jyouells2000

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> on 11/5/05 1:29 AM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >> 
> >> on 11/4/05 10:40 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Maybe the pundits will be able to get visas for Canada, although the
> >>> weather is even worse than Iowa's:
> >>> 
> >>> "At the inauguration celebration, representatives from the Global
> >>> Country unveiled their plans for the islands. It will soon be
home to
> >>> a "university" of 200 students, a parliament building for 200
> >>> representatives from all over the world and a home for 121 experts
> >>> from India in transcendental meditation and Yogic Flying."
> >>> 
> >>> http://tinyurl.com/bher4
> >> 
> >> Don't worry, nothing will be built there and no pundits will come.
> >> 
> > They might just raise almost enough money to build, but not quite
> > enough to bring the pundits. ;-)
> 
> Or they might raise a little less than is needed to do either, so
nothing
> will done, but the raised money will never be seen again.
>
I just thought they'd wanna raise the property value first... ;-)






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RE: [FairfieldLife] Happy Birthday Paula

Ok, lemme try again…sometimes stuff just disappears ☺ 

 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Unlimited fuel source?

2005-11-05 Thread cardemaister

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,3605,1627424,00.html
> 
> 
> Fuel's paradise? Power source that turns physics on its head 
> 
> · Scientist says device disproves quantum theory 
> · Opponents claim idea is result of wrong maths 
> 
> Alok Jha, science correspondent
> Friday November 4, 2005
> The Guardian 
> 

>From "hydrino" YG:

From: "smenton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
Date: Fri Nov 4, 2005 0:58am 
Subject: Re: New article on BLP  smenton 

  I finally got a hold of the "Focus" article. I am not able to link 
it, but it is certainly worth tracking down. It is a pretty general 
overview and the author tries very hard to remain objective. A lot 
of the article will be familiar to those who have been following 
even moderately closely. One of the most interesting aspects of the 
article is the public affirmation of more independent replications 
of BLP's results and quotes from some of the scientists who have 
performed some of the recent replications. 

The article includes the following:

"Mills has published a host of papers detailing his theory of 
hydrinos in serious research journals. Meanwhile, independent 
investigators have carried out experiments to test his claims  and 
replicated them."

Professor Rick Maas of the University of North Carolina, whose name 
has not, to my recollection, surfaced on this Bd before, is quoted 
extensively in the article. The article describes his involvement as 
follows:

"[BLP] claim[s] to have triggered the creation of hydrino states by 
heating hydrogen until it turns into a plasma and adding catalysts, 
releasing energy much greater than predicted using standard theory. 
Once again, these claims have been published in serious academic 
journals, and have also been replicated by other researchers, 
including Maas. `We went in with a healthy amount of scepticism,' 
Maas says, with his team carrying out a series of experiments 
earlier this year to test different aspects of the claims being 
made. `We found very strong evidence for the existence of hydrinos, 
and significant net energy gains of two to 40 per cent.'

" After carrying out his own independent study of claims, Maas 
admits to being awestruck by the results. `There's no way  unless 
you didn't want to believe it  that you'd not say you were 
convinced.'"

This response, of course, is completely consistent with the now well-
documented phenomena that, those who actually see the BLP 
experiments and accurately replicate them, come away very impressed 
while many who rely on their ability to discern scientific truth 
through the internet or from the confines of the APS newsletter 
office, remain unconvinced.

I also liked how Professor Maas blows off the hydrino-phobe's ill-
informed, but all too frequent, attempts to smear BLP by trying to 
link it to cold fusion. Maas affirms what many of us on this forum 
have long asserted: "...This is so far from cold fusion that it's 
insulting to compare the two"

The article also includes background information and comments from 
Prof Jonathan Phillips of the University of New Mexico. 

" He first heard of Mills and his ideas shortly after debunking 
cold fusion on theoretical grounds, and fully expected to be 
underwhelmed. That changed after reading Mills's theoretical 
papers. `I find his theory very compelling,' says Phillips, who has 
since teamed up with Mills. But Phillips adds that the radical break 
from conventional thinking has helped fuel scepticism."

The hydrinophobe position is largely based on comments from Rathke:

"...Despite being published in respected physics journals, the 
theory is still viewed with deep suspicion  though remarkably few 
critics have put their knock-out arguments in print. One who has is 
Andreas Rathke, until recently a theoretical physicist with the 
European Space Agency (ESA). Earlier this year he published a paper 
which concluded there were "severe inconsistencies" in Mills's 
theory, which was 'incompatible' with quantum mechanics.

But Rathke's critique has now been shown to be flawed by Prof Jan 
Naudts, an expert on quantum mechanics at the University of 
Antwerp. 'It was clearly incomplete, and even misleading,.'

BTW if you want to read a very succinct summary of the multiple 
flaws, misinterpretations and errors in Rathke's recently published 
paper, get a hold of Prof Phillips' rebuttal.

In the meantime, the article includes a great quote from Maas who 
really puts things in perspective:

"Maas believes it's time for the sceptics to put up or shut 
up. `The experiments are so convincing, it's time to stop bickering 
about the theory.'

Gosh, it is refreshing to see scientists actually act like 
scientists rather than arrogant, know-it-all internet critics who 
feel qualified to dismiss reams of experimental evidence without 
ever seeing or trying to replicate a single experiment.

If the hydrinophobes

Re: [FairfieldLife] ayurveda (was Re: Was Letter from Farrokh - Now Situation in India)

on 11/5/05 11:20 AM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> We had a good relationship with the powers to be of the TM org. We
> maintained regular contact with the Office of the President who knew
> exactly what it was we were doing as we told him very explicity. One
> day, in our little office in one of the high-rises, we received a
> phone call from Bevan's secretary who read us a quote which said, "At
> this time, Maharishi has announced his intention to get involved with
> ayurveda and all Governors who are involved in selling ayurvedic
> products should stop."
> 
> Of course we could have continued, and in retrospect I'm sure I would
> have done things differently. But my parnter and I chose to stop.

If you had chosen to continue, you would have lost your dome badges, as did
some semi-professional jyotishis.

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[FairfieldLife] Unlimited fuel source?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/story/0,3605,1627424,00.html


Fuel's paradise? Power source that turns physics on its head 

· Scientist says device disproves quantum theory 
· Opponents claim idea is result of wrong maths 

Alok Jha, science correspondent
Friday November 4, 2005
The Guardian 


It seems too good to be true: a new source of near-limitless power 
that costs virtually nothing, uses tiny amounts of water as its fuel 
and produces next to no waste. If that does not sound radical 
enough, how about this: the principle behind the source turns modern 
physics on its head.
Randell Mills, a Harvard University medic who also studied 
electrical engineering at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, 
claims to have built a prototype power source that generates up to 
1,000 times more heat than conventional fuel. Independent scientists 
claim to have verified the experiments and Dr Mills says that his 
company, Blacklight Power, has tens of millions of dollars in 
investment lined up to bring the idea to market. And he claims to be 
just months away from unveiling his creation.

The problem is that according to the rules of quantum mechanics, the 
physics that governs the behaviour of atoms, the idea is 
theoretically impossible. "Physicists are quite conservative. It's 
not easy to convince them to change a theory that is accepted for 50 
to 60 years. I don't think [Mills's] theory should be supported," 
said Jan Naudts, a theoretical physicist at the University of 
Antwerp.

What has much of the physics world up in arms is Dr Mills's claim 
that he has produced a new form of hydrogen, the simplest of all the 
atoms, with just a single proton circled by one electron. In 
his "hydrino", the electron sits a little closer to the proton than 
normal, and the formation of the new atoms from traditional hydrogen 
releases huge amounts of energy.

This is scientific heresy. According to quantum mechanics, electrons 
can only exist in an atom in strictly defined orbits, and the 
shortest distance allowed between the proton and electron in 
hydrogen is fixed. The two particles are simply not allowed to get 
any closer.

According to Dr Mills, there can be only one explanation: quantum 
mechanics must be wrong. "We've done a lot of testing. We've got 50 
independent validation reports, we've got 65 peer-reviewed journal 
articles," he said. "We ran into this theoretical resistance and 
there are some vested interests here. People are very strong and 
fervent protectors of this [quantum] theory that they use."

Rick Maas, a chemist at the University of North Carolina at 
Asheville (UNC) who specialises in sustainable energy sources, was 
allowed unfettered access to Blacklight's laboratories this 
year. "We went in with a healthy amount of scepticism. While it 
would certainly be nice if this were true, in my position as head of 
a research institution, I really wouldn't want to make a mistake. 
The last thing I want is to be remembered as the person who derailed 
a lot of sustainable energy investment into something that wasn't 
real."

But Prof Maas and Randy Booker, a UNC physicist, left under no doubt 
about Dr Mill's claims. "All of us who are not quantum physicists 
are looking at Dr Mills's data and we find it very compelling," said 
Prof Maas. "Dr Booker and I have both put our professional 
reputations on the line as far as that goes."

Dr Mills's idea goes against almost a century of thinking. When 
scientists developed the theory of quantum mechanics they described 
a world where measuring the exact position or energy of a particle 
was impossible and where the laws of classical physics had no 
effect. The theory has been hailed as one of the 20th century's 
greatest achievements.

But it is an achievement Dr Mills thinks is flawed. He turned back 
to earlier classical physics to develop a theory which, unlike 
quantum mechanics, allows an electron to move much closer to the 
proton at the heart of a hydrogen atom and, in doing so, release the 
substantial amounts of energy he seeks to exploit. Dr Mills's 
theory, known as classical quantum mechanics and published in the 
journal Physics Essays in 2003, has been criticised most publicly by 
Andreas Rathke of the European Space Agency. In a damning critique 
published recently in the New Journal of Physics, he argued that Dr 
Mills's theory was the result of mathematical mistakes.

Dr Mills argues that there are plenty of flaws in Dr Rathke's 
critique. "His paper's riddled with mistakes. We've had other 
physicists contact him and say this is embarrassing to the journal 
and [Dr Rathke] won't respond," said Dr Mills.

While the theoretical tangle is unlikely to resolve itself soon, 
those wanting to exploit the technology are pushing ahead. "We would 
like to understand it from an academic standpoint and then we would 
like to be able to use the implications to actually produce energy 
products," said Prof Maas. "The companies that are lining up be

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Anklesaria's' position with the TMO

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > And find a picture of Maharishi and shake your
> > > > finger at him and 
> > > > tell him what a bastard he is, if it makes you feel
> > > > better. 
> > > > Then...on to the next injustice in the world.
> > > 
> > > Excellent suggestion! Like Guru Dev used to say, don't
> > > give me your money and gifts, give me your sins! Who
> > > better to yell at than MMY. Like the ocean accepting
> > > all the mud from the rivers draining into it. What an
> > > honor to have the absolute in human form for you to
> > > crap out your attachments. THAT'S ONE REASON WHY YOU
> > > ARE IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM. Crap away!!! 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Since when did I sign on to a guru-disciple relationship?
> > 
> > I thought the TM technique was not predicated on a religion or 
> > philosophy...
> > 
> 
> Since when did you pay $1 million for a month's attention from MMY?
>


Huh?






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[FairfieldLife] Re: NYT - "Upstart Comedians Goofing on Andy" [Kaufman]

2005-11-05 Thread akasha_108

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> What many people don't know is that Andy is really still alive. The  
> whole "death" was a stunt, and as he predicted, he would return 20  
> years after his death. 

And that day came and went -- and no Andy. 16 May 1984  + 20 = 16 May
2004. I guess he got stuck in deep mediation. Or found some hookers he
could not bear to leave.

His blog is at:
> 
> http://andykaufmanreturns.blogspot.com/
> 
> He has actually been totally absorbed in an advanced meditation  
> practice for the last 20 years which is only rarely given to those  
> with perfect ritam.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Pundits on Canadian islands?

on 11/5/05 10:54 AM, Peter at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> Don't worry, nothing will be built there and no
>> pundits will come.
> 
> Rick, such the cynic. Just because it hasn't happen
> over the past 12 years doesn't mean that at any moment
> (maybe today even!!! yikes!!) it can happen. Here they
> come!!!

Yeah, it's true. Someday Lucy might let Charlie Brown kick the football,
just to inspire him to keep trying.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] NYT - "Upstart Comedians Goofing on Andy" [Kaufman]

2005-11-05 Thread Vaj

What many people don't know is that Andy is really still alive. The  
whole "death" was a stunt, and as he predicted, he would return 20  
years after his death. His blog is at:

http://andykaufmanreturns.blogspot.com/

He has actually been totally absorbed in an advanced meditation  
practice for the last 20 years which is only rarely given to those  
with perfect ritam.

On Nov 5, 2005, at 11:41 AM, Rick Archer wrote:

> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/03/arts/03come.html
>
> November 3, 2005
> Upstart Comedians Goofing on Andy
> By PETER KEEPNEWS
> As befits a city often considered the world comedy capital, the  
> second annual New York Comedy Festival - which began Tuesday and  
> runs through the weekend - is heavy on big names, most of them more  
> familiar from television than the club circuit: Denis Leary movies2.nytimes..com/gst/movies/filmography.html? 
> p_id=41244&inline=nyt-per> , D. L. Hughley, Joy Behar, Mario  
> Cantone, Triumph the Insult Comic Dog.
>
> As befits a city where comedians come to be discovered, it also has  
> its share of lesser-known names, mostly performing in support of  
> the stars.
>
> And as befits a city where Andy Kaufman  gst/movies/filmography.html?p_id=37092&inline=nyt-per>  got his  
> start, it has a grown man acting like a hyperactive boy who thinks  
> the audience members are guests at his birthday party, as well as a  
> woman who, explaining that she is too sick to talk, lip-syncs her  
> act to a recording of her own voice.

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[FairfieldLife] ayurveda (was Re: Was Letter from Farrokh - Now Situation in India)

2005-11-05 Thread anonymousff

>From '82-'88 I lived in FF, my partners and I had Perfect Health
Products, Inc. At that time there were only a couple of other
importers of ayurvedic products directly from India. We hooked up with
a guy named Richard Forrest who was in Florida and had already created
the channel for getting products in. We then acquired a very highly
though of ayurvedic doctor in India as our advisors. This was Dr.
Bhagwan Dass who was an advisor to the World Health Organization. We
formed the Ayurveda Corporation and Dr. Vasant Ladd was on our Board
and we met with him in NYC. We were importing pre-existing
formulations and packaging them outselves. We were working with
several large companies in India, we had an investor and I was about
to head to India to take our business to a much larger lever. 

At this point in time, the TM org had not entered the business of
ayurveda. 

We had a good relationship with the powers to be of the TM org. We
maintained regular contact with the Office of the President who knew
exactly what it was we were doing as we told him very explicity. One
day, in our little office in one of the high-rises, we received a
phone call from Bevan's secretary who read us a quote which said, "At
this time, Maharishi has announced his intention to get involved with
ayurveda and all Governors who are involved in selling ayurvedic
products should stop."

Of course we could have continued, and in retrospect I'm sure I would
have done things differently. But my parnter and I chose to stop. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>  
>   Were you in the Production side or Marketing side of the Ayurvedic
business.??  May I know why the TM-org told you to stop your business.??
>  
>   'SriSri Ayurveda' by SriSri.Ravishankar seems to be doing well. 
It's based in Bangalore in India.  'Dabur-india' and 'Himalaya & co'
are well known companies
>  
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> Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 21:35:52 - 
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Letter from Farrokh - Now Situation
in India 
> 
>  >> I was in the ayurvedic business before the TM org got >>involved
and, in fact, got told to stop by the TM org.
> 
> >>Bazaar of India (http://www.bazaarofindia.com/)of >>Berkeley, CA
They are known for their high quality >>raw (powdered) herbs, all of
which are organically >>grown.
>  
> >>2) Banyan Botanicals (http://www.banyanbotanicals.com/)These are
both >>excellent companies. Banyan makes more formulas than >>Bazaar
of India, but B of I also makes formulas in >>addition to raw herbs.
> 
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: LA Yoga mag on TM, Lynch



--- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On Nov 4, 2005, at 8:25 PM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote:
> 
> > ---  bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
>
http://www.layogamagazine.com/issue%2022/feature/feature.htm
> >>
> >>
> >
> > "Lynch established The David Lynch Foundation to
> fund students who
> > want to learn the Transcendental Meditation
> technique. So far the
> > foundation has dispensed $200,000 to seven
> Consciousness-Based schools
> > to cover the cost of Transcendental Meditation
> instruction for its
> > students. It has three phases for development: 1)
> raise $1.2 million
> > to teach 500 students at American University in
> Washington, D.C., 2)
> > raise $20 million to teach 10,000 students across
> the nation and 3)
> > create a $100 million endowment to build and
> sustain a campus of World
> > Peace in Washington, D.C., which would include
> Consciousness-Based
> > education in its curriculum."
> >
> > Yes, seems persuasive except net effect likely
> will be they are just
> > educating people to start other meditation
> techniques at these prices
> > and once people start googling a little farther
> looking in to where
> > the money does all goe.
> 
> It's sad to me to see that people will swallow this
> swill so easily.
> 
> Having to endow large sums of money so a simple
> meditation technique  
> might be taught? Give me a fucking break! It's just
> "TM", what's the  
> big deal? It should be free...that is if they're
> *really* interested  
> in world peace. Of course the truth is, they're not.
> It's all about  
> money. Just more selling of the veda. I hear vedic
> hell is nice this  
> time of year.

It is pretty bad, isn't it? I could understand a
couple of hundred bucks for your average working stiff
and a sliding fee scale for others.



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Mantras: Letter from Farrokh

--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> on 11/3/05 3:23 PM, bbrigante at
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> > During the proper practice of TM, the mantras are
> indeed meaningless
> > sounds (TM properly practiced has nothing to with
> any meaning one
> > might assign to the mantras, but to their use as a
> vehicle of
> > attention, a sound resonating with the mind in a
> way that leads to
> > transcendence). Outside of the practice of TM, if
> Hindus want to
> > assign meanings to the sounds, that has nothing to
> do with the
> > practice of TM. 
> 
> Mantras are effective by virtue of the energy and
> intelligence imbued in
> them or associated with them. You tickle a Devata,
> the Devata tickles you
> back. Indians understand this, and I've heard
> Maharishi talk about it. He
> just emphasized the meaningless sound bit to make TM
> palatable in the West.

But the mantras in TM are, in the usual sense of the
term, meaningless. They don't literally mean anything
in sanscrit (at least the 1st technique). Now, they
are associated with particular devatas or more
accurately thay are the seed-sound form of the devata.
So, they don't mean anything, but they are the devata!

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Pundits on Canadian islands?

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> on 11/4/05 10:40 PM, bbrigante at
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> > Maybe the pundits will be able to get visas for
> Canada, although the
> > weather is even worse than Iowa's:
> > 
> > "At the inauguration celebration, representatives
> from the Global
> > Country unveiled their plans for the islands. It
> will soon be home to
> > a "university" of 200 students, a parliament
> building for 200
> > representatives from all over the world and a home
> for 121 experts
> > from India in transcendental meditation and Yogic
> Flying."
> > 
> > http://tinyurl.com/bher4
> 
> Don't worry, nothing will be built there and no
> pundits will come.

Rick, such the cynic. Just because it hasn't happen
over the past 12 years doesn't mean that at any moment
(maybe today even!!! yikes!!) it can happen. Here they
come!!!

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[FairfieldLife] NYT - "Upstart Comedians Goofing on Andy" [Kaufman]

Title: NYT - "Upstart Comedians Goofing on Andy" [Kaufman]

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/03/arts/03come.html
November 3, 2005
Upstart Comedians Goofing on Andy
By PETER KEEPNEWS
As befits a city often considered the world comedy capital, the second annual New York Comedy Festival - which began Tuesday and runs through the weekend - is heavy on big names, most of them more familiar from television than the club circuit: Denis Leary , D. L. Hughley, Joy Behar, Mario Cantone, Triumph the Insult Comic Dog.

As befits a city where comedians come to be discovered, it also has its share of lesser-known names, mostly performing in support of the stars.

And as befits a city where Andy Kaufman got his start, it has a grown man acting like a hyperactive boy who thinks the audience members are guests at his birthday party, as well as a woman who, explaining that she is too sick to talk, lip-syncs her act to a recording of her own voice.

Those performers, Ryan Flynn and Charlyne Yi, are among the eight finalists competing tonight at Carolines on Broadway, one of the festival's producers (the City of New York is also involved), for the Andy Kaufman Award. First presented last year, the award is for the performer who best reflects Kaufman's "originality, humor and courage" and who most forcefully "breaks the barriers of conventional stand-up comedy." The competition is both an answer to the question "Where are the new weirdos coming from?" and a sign that Kaufman, once known as an iconoclast, has become an icon.

Larry C. Morris/The New York Times
Andy Kaufman

"I was a big fan of his from the first time I saw him perform as a stand-up," said Mr. Leary, the star and creator of the acclaimed FX series "Rescue Me" who returns to his comedy roots tomorrow night at Avery Fisher Hall. "He was just so off the wall. There was always an aspect of 'Where is this going?' He was one of those people who had what I call a secret evil plan - the guy's performing, but you don't know exactly how you're supposed to react. What he did is hard to do; it takes a lot of commitment.."

It's also hard to define. Kaufman was the comedian who wrestled women. Who disguised himself as an oafish lounge singer and was his own opening act. Who first attracted attention in comedy clubs by pretending to be a meek, confused soul with a vague accent who couldn't tell a joke to save his life, before suddenly morphing into a formidable Elvis imitator. Who played a range of roles, onstage and off, but never, ever broke character. He was such a master of the put-on that although he died of lung cancer 21 years ago, some Kaufman devotees are still not convinced he's really dead.

Whether he was even a comedian remains debatable; he once said that he considered himself a song-and-dance man. (Oddly, Bob Dylan said the same thing about himself.) George Shapiro, Kaufman's manager and one of the forces behind the Andy Kaufman Award, recalled an argument he had with his client: "He wanted to do a 'bombing routine,' a routine so bad that everybody walks out. He wanted to do eight minutes of terrible jokes - jokes that weren't even jokes - that would have people booing, people walking out. I said, 'You can't do that.' We negotiated. I finally persuaded him to keep it to two minutes."

Kaufman's younger brother, Michael, 54, a financial consultant and former stand-up who was the M.C. and a judge at the semifinals Tuesday night, agreed that his brother did not like being called a comedian. His explanation: "Andy saying he was not a comedian was just protecting himself, so if he didn't get a laugh he could say, 'It's not supposed to be funny.' But let's face it, he liked it when people laughed."

The official criteria for judging the contest, in fact, break things down mathematically: 60 percent based on originality and courage, 40 percent on humor. The prize is $5,000, courtesy of Stanley Kaufman, 83, Andy's father, who organized the first contest with Mr. Shapiro and Caroline Hirsch of Carolines. Both are judges, along with Susie Essman of "Curb Your Enthusiasm"; Bill Zehme, author of a Kaufman biography; and Kaufman's sister, Carol Kerman. Everyone involved emphasizes that the idea is to celebrate Kaufman's fearlessness and his anything-goes approach, rather than to find a performer with a similar act. ("It's really about finding the essence of Andy," Ms. Hirsch explained. "The wackiness, the off-the-cuff creativity. The shock value.")

Nonetheless, last year's winner, Suzanne Whang seemed more than a little Kaufmanesque. Born in Virginia to South Korean parents, she does stand-up as Sung Hee Park, a nervous Korean immigrant with limited English who has apparently learned her entire act phonetically without realizing that the jokes are racist, sexist or otherwise completely inappropriate. The resemblance to the fumbling Foreign Man character that first got Kaufman noticed - and led to his long-running role as the lovable mechanic Latka on th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Mantra, Devata, Divinity

2005-11-05 Thread jim_flanegin

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "llundrub_mamo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
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> Nothing is not divine. To think that a syllable is more divine than 
> the smoke from a rotting bus is just very dvaita.
>
Right on! Hope you are doing well back home-

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RE: [FairfieldLife] Happy Birthday Paula

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[FairfieldLife] Cary Baer in Time Magazine

>From old TM friend Cary Baer:

-- Forwarded Message
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Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 11:00:42 EST
To: 
Subject: Cary in Time Magazine

 Dear Friend:

As you may know, I have been having fun for a few years doing a stand-up
metaphysical comedy show called "The Lost Teachings of the Oy Veda."  It's
an act in which I "channel"  (wink wink) a 4,000-year-old swami called The
Wise Guy.  (My elementary school teachers always told my mother at
parent/teacher conferences, "Mrs. Bayer, Cary is an excellent student but I
wish he'd stop making the other students laugh and disrupt my teaching of
the class.  He's really quite a wise guy."So I suppose the character has
been in the making since my childhood.)

I get to do my Indian accent and have a ball.  Thank God...audiences have as
well.  

Recently, Time magazine got wind of him/me and included a paragraph write-up
in a 3-page story, "That's Funny!" that they're running in their November 7
issue.  It's about people in their middle years and beyond who've scratched
an itch in their funny bone to do stand-up professionally for the first
time.  (I guess they consider a 4,000-year-old as part of the middle years.)
It's on page F1 in a bonus section called "Generations."  Or you can find it
online as well at the address below.

http://www.time.com/time/generations/article/0,9171,1124318,00.html

If you'd like him/me to perform at an event that you're planning, just let
me know.  It's easier to reach me than to reach him.

Love,

Cary & the Wise Guy

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[FairfieldLife] Maharishi - Google Print

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Letter from Farrokh - Now Situation in India

2005-11-05 Thread Jason Spock

I have used 'Maharishi Ayurveda' and 'Sri Sri Ayurveda' products by SriSri.Ravishankarji. Looks OK, but,
You should walk into many of the thousands of small Herbal medicine production units in india. Formulas are not always followed. If an ingredient is not available it is left out. Raw materials dumped on the floor and people walking in through them with their dirty feet.!!
But that is not all. There is a huge Fake allopathy medicine racket going on in india. For example common antibiotic, say for example ciproflaxin. White talcum powder in neatly packed into capsules stamped as ciproflaxin and marketed.
The racket became so huge that the indian govt recently introduced death penalty for the offence.
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MAPI NOT being one of these, despite their claims?
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Anklesaria's' position with the TMO

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Farrokh makes some excellent points.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > "some"?
> > > 
> > > That's all you can concede to the guy, Spare Egg, is "some".
> > > 
> > > How big of you.
> > > 
> > > By using the word "some", you indicate a gap between observing 
that 
> > > ALL of what he said is excellent and your use of "some".
> > > 
> > > I'd be curious to know what exactly is it in Farroukh's letter 
that 
> > > is NOT excellent or that you find fault with...
> > > 
> > 
> > Poking fun at the rajahs is a cheap shot, IMHO. They are willing 
to 
> > play MMY's game, having paid quite a bit for the privelege, and 
at 
> > the same time are willing to work quite hard at making the TMO 
work. 
> > Whether their efforts will be fruitful in the long run is 
anyone's 
> > guess at this point.
> >
> 
> Guess that depends on your definition of "making the TMO work", and
> what that 'work' really is

Whatever definition you want to use. How are the rajahs accomplishing 
or not accomplishing whatever it is you think the TMO is supposed to 
be doing?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Forum for the Anklesaria's

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Anyone who has initiated 40,000 people into the
> Absolute can say and do anything he wants!

Where does the 40K figure come from?

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mantras: Letter from Farrokh

Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mantras: Letter from Farrokh





on 11/5/05 1:51 AM, Paula Youmans at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

If the mantra is going to be used to Transcend...
Then if we assign a pre-determined name or form to it;
We would keep one on a superficial level of thought;
Trying to visualize or apply some meaning to the sound.
Therefore, it is necessary to assign no meaning to the;
"Vibration of Sound" which is the vehicle of Trancendance.
After familiarity of Transcendance is established..
Then it's a different story..
Then one can use the different Vedic sounds;
To know,
Anything..
Because of the name/form appreciation,
Known at the finest level of thought.



*

That is perfectly how someone explained it to me. Not MMY, mind you. 
Like if you take “I am” as a mantra…I was told to think of it as “ayam.”
Mainly because it is the same, but ayam doesn’t mean anything to me. 
My brain doesn’t have to put its “hands” around that because there is nothing to grab. It’s complete gibberish. 
And when switching in meditation to using this sound AYAM ….wow, what a difference. 

That’s quite close to the sound of an actual bija mantra.






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[FairfieldLife] Happy Birthday Paula

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Happy Birthday to our dear, already-enlightened Paula Youmans! Long, long wakeful life in the direction of immortality, and all that.






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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Pundits on Canadian islands?

on 11/5/05 1:29 AM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> 
>> on 11/4/05 10:40 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> Maybe the pundits will be able to get visas for Canada, although the
>>> weather is even worse than Iowa's:
>>> 
>>> "At the inauguration celebration, representatives from the Global
>>> Country unveiled their plans for the islands. It will soon be home to
>>> a "university" of 200 students, a parliament building for 200
>>> representatives from all over the world and a home for 121 experts
>>> from India in transcendental meditation and Yogic Flying."
>>> 
>>> http://tinyurl.com/bher4
>> 
>> Don't worry, nothing will be built there and no pundits will come.
>> 
> They might just raise almost enough money to build, but not quite
> enough to bring the pundits. ;-)

Or they might raise a little less than is needed to do either, so nothing
will done, but the raised money will never be seen again.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Letter from Farrokh - Now Situation in India

2005-11-05 Thread Jason Spock










 
 
    You may have so many other complaints about Exc.Bevan Morris,  but I think he's a honest guy.  You can trust him with the Money.
 
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Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 08:52:51 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Letter from Farrokh - Now Situation in India 
    --- In  "markmeredith2002"   Wrote:  >> what I can tell, the nephews are in control of the >>accounts.  I really doubt MMY trusts anyone except >>Indians to be in control of the money.
  Bevan is in control, according to the records, of the Global Development fund of several hundred million dollars US.
  BTW, how do you know that your sources about the nephews' corruption are accurate? There's more petty finger-pointing done in India at all levels than just about any other country in the world, as far as I can tell...
 
    
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Anklesaria's' position with the TMO

2005-11-05 Thread jyouells2000

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Farrokh makes some excellent points.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "some"?
> > 
> > That's all you can concede to the guy, Spare Egg, is "some".
> > 
> > How big of you.
> > 
> > By using the word "some", you indicate a gap between observing that 
> > ALL of what he said is excellent and your use of "some".
> > 
> > I'd be curious to know what exactly is it in Farroukh's letter that 
> > is NOT excellent or that you find fault with...
> > 
> 
> Poking fun at the rajahs is a cheap shot, IMHO. They are willing to 
> play MMY's game, having paid quite a bit for the privelege, and at 
> the same time are willing to work quite hard at making the TMO work. 
> Whether their efforts will be fruitful in the long run is anyone's 
> guess at this point.
>

Guess that depends on your definition of "making the TMO work", and
what that 'work' really is

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[FairfieldLife] site address to start Building Maharishi Stapatya ved house

2005-11-05 Thread Ron F

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Forum for the Anklesaria's

Anyone who has initiated 40,000 people into the
Absolute can say and do anything he wants!

--- tmforlife108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> In many ways Farrokh has expressed what many of us
> have kept to ourselves.  For me his 
> honesty here is a breath of fresh air and I salute
> he and his wife for taking on the TMO.  
> Farrokh has taught TM to over 40K people, more than
> most of us could ever achieve.  He's 
> tolerated much of the same stupidity from the TMO
> most have and still he wants to teach 
> and do so at reasonable prices.
>  
> I'm not surprized to read that the movement
> representatives have threatened him.  I've 
> read from many on this list that such fear tactics
> continue.  I salute Farrokh because he 
> has the desire to side-step the limos, rajas,
> bagpipes, etc and continue making TM 
> available in it's simplicity.
>  
> With the support of the judges in St. Louis and
> Farrokh's legal background, with the 
> success of his project and determination to succeed
> where other's have not, I think Farokh 
> might be just what the movement needs right now - a
> way out!  How many intelligent 
> movement leaders really believe deep down that the
> current policies have merit?  In their 
> quiet moments, are they so brainwashed that they
> don't hear another voice saying "what if 
> this is wrong?"
>  
> If Farrokh has something to say maybe it's time he
> be given a real chance to say it.  He 
> wants to teach anybody, he doesn't want to
> overcharge them and he believes teachers 
> need to make a living.  First teachers are taught to
> teach then they are told they can not, 
> and if they do so outside the TMO guidelines, they
> will incur bad karma and possible 'legal 
> action'.  That is the latest nonsense being peddled
> by the movement.  What reasonable 
> person would subscribe to such nonsense?  
>  
>  
>  
> Daniel Jeffers
> 
> 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: water cure

2005-11-05 Thread uns_tressor

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> on 11/4/05 8:40 PM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
> > Yo group
> > Anyone here read and followed the water cure program of F.
> > Batmanghelidj, MD?
> > I'd be interested to know your experiences.

Very impressive guy. Many a low back ache eliminated 
with a glass of water. He has a good book out:
http://tinyurl.com/cysn9  or
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0962994235/103-6498361-
9183811?v=glance
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Mantra, Devata, Divinity

2005-11-05 Thread llundrub_mamo

Nothing is not divine. To think that a syllable is more divine than 
the smoke from a rotting bus is just very dvaita.






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[FairfieldLife] My New Group

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mantras: was Letter from Farrokh

2005-11-05 Thread Vaj

On Nov 4, 2005, at 11:52 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

> I understand that, but whether or not they realize the connection  
> between
> their mantra and the Devata associated with it, that connection  
> exists, and
> by virtue of it, the mantra has its intended effect. I used to have  
> an audio
> tape from a Rishikesh TTC in which Maharishi talked about this in some
> detail. Hey Vaj, you can elaborate on this stuff, can't you?

What aspect? Every mantra, esp. tantric mantra will have a rishi, a  
devata, a chhandas, a svara, etc. associated with it, as well as a  
Dhyanavidhi, a meditative visualization. Mantras reveal their form  
based on the Bijavrksa Nyaya, the Law of Seed and Tree. Eventually  
the seed you use to meditate "becomes" the tree (the universe as  
devata). I like the quote that Paul Mason shares of Swami Brahmananda  
Saraswati where he say something to the effect that eventually your  
whole experience becomes your devata..everywhere you look, the  
universe if your devata. I'm also reminded of the ecstatic state that  
I saw Amma in during Devibhava.

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[FairfieldLife] Forum for the Anklesaria's

2005-11-05 Thread tmforlife108

In many ways Farrokh has expressed what many of us have kept to ourselves.  For 
me his 
honesty here is a breath of fresh air and I salute he and his wife for taking 
on the TMO.  
Farrokh has taught TM to over 40K people, more than most of us could ever 
achieve.  He's 
tolerated much of the same stupidity from the TMO most have and still he wants 
to teach 
and do so at reasonable prices.
 
I'm not surprized to read that the movement representatives have threatened 
him.  I've 
read from many on this list that such fear tactics continue.  I salute Farrokh 
because he 
has the desire to side-step the limos, rajas, bagpipes, etc and continue making 
TM 
available in it's simplicity.
 
With the support of the judges in St. Louis and Farrokh's legal background, 
with the 
success of his project and determination to succeed where other's have not, I 
think Farokh 
might be just what the movement needs right now - a way out!  How many 
intelligent 
movement leaders really believe deep down that the current policies have merit? 
 In their 
quiet moments, are they so brainwashed that they don't hear another voice 
saying "what if 
this is wrong?"
 
If Farrokh has something to say maybe it's time he be given a real chance to 
say it.  He 
wants to teach anybody, he doesn't want to overcharge them and he believes 
teachers 
need to make a living.  First teachers are taught to teach then they are told 
they can not, 
and if they do so outside the TMO guidelines, they will incur bad karma and 
possible 'legal 
action'.  That is the latest nonsense being peddled by the movement.  What 
reasonable 
person would subscribe to such nonsense?  
 
 
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Mantra, Devata, Divinity

2005-11-05 Thread mainstream20016

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > on 11/3/05 12:38 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> I wonder about this "meaningless sounds" business. At the
> > >> preparatory  lecture, I always used to say the mantras 
> were "sounds
> > >> the effects of which are known," or "words selected for their 
> sound
> > >> quality,"  or something like that.  I never said, "meaningless
> > >> sounds" and I wonder whether using that phrase was ever an 
> official
> > >> instruction. It's a very unfortunate phrase, in my opinion.
> > > 
> > > Whatever associations they may have in Hinduism,
> > > as they're used in TM they're semantically
> > > meaningless sounds.
> > 
> > Meaningless, but the bija mantras are fundamentally connected with
> > Devatas,
> 
> They *are* devatas.
> 
>  and these Devatas are instrumental in producing the 
> > effects that result from meditating with their mantras.
> >
> > > I know all the "names of gods" stuff from Trancenet,
> > > but that's just inaccurate.  At most, they're sounds
> > > that are associated with gods in Hinduism.
> > 
> > But if you regard Hinduism as anything more than a mythological 
> > tradition, then you might acknowledge that it's colorful depictions 
> > of gods and goddesses might represent actual celestial entities who 
> > are powerful governors of nature's mechanics.
> 
> Well, I have my own ideas of what they represent.
> 
> > >But even
> > > Hindus who are taught TM are told to treat the mantra
> > > as pure sound during meditation (at least that's what
> > > I was told by a long-time TM teacher who did a lot of
> > > initiations in India way back when).
> > 
> > Hindus who are taught TM in India are asked who their cherished 
> > deity is, and on that basis their mantra is chosen.
> 
> And that contradicts what I said how?
> 
> > > If you want to get all esoteric about it, the mantras
> > > are in some sense devas, but then you have to get into
> > > the whole Nama-rupa thing and how Sanskrit syllables
> > > aren't symbolic, like regular language; they don't
> > > *stand for* things, they *are* things.  And if you're
> > > going to say mantras are gods, well, you gotta first
> > > believe in gods.  I'm a lot happier with "impulses of
> > > creative intelligence," myself.
> > 
> > Just a Western phrase Maharishi chose to make a Hindu concept seem 
> > more scientific.
> 
> Or perhaps not.  Perhaps "impulses of creative
> intelligence" is the more accurate description
> for the abstract celestial entities or forces
> which in Hinduism are metaphorically  represented
> by colorful gods and goddesses, and which are
> actually aspects of our own consciousness.
> 
> Remember that MMY also refers to "devata" as
> "process of knowing," that which connects Knower
> and known, or rather which *creates* what is
> known.  The Knower "knows" the known into being,
> devata being the creative agency.
> 
> I believe the mythological aspects of religions
> generally are metaphors for highly abstract
> components of reality--of the mechanics of 
> consciousness--rather than personal beings.  Not
> that they can't take the form of personal beings,
> of course.  But their essence is vastly more
> abstract, I think.
>

very beautiful... c o r r e c t   !

This meditation is a royal gift to relative forms of creation.  Mantra by 
itself - meaningless. 
 However, Mantra in the mind leads to creation of divine in the mind.  Mantra's 
effects are 
known.  A meaningless sound whose effects are known.   
What is the significance of this?  Everything !   The joy of 
interconnectedness of 
divinity with relativity results during meditation, when mantra flows in the 
awareness of 
mind.   What a wonderful role devata, via mantra, plays for all of creation. 
  Relative diversity in creation exists on so many physical levels, and 
so many layers 
of diverse intellect-driven thoughts distinguish subtle differences in mental 
forms.
Meditation, mantra, devata, and mind  merge divinity into the awareness of  the 
meditator.  
How fortunate we are to gain direct experience of divine realms as our mind is 
immersed 
in divinity.  How fortunate for Divinity that a vehicle, devata, via mantra, 
exists with which 
divinity can cross into relative realms, and bless the relative.  How fortunate 
for Divinity 
that it can comingle with relativity via devata and mantra, and share its 
infinity with 
relativity.   It must happen.   It must happen.  The gulf has been too wide for 
too long 
between divinity and relativity.
Devata is special for its function, by which the mind is immersed in 
divinity, infinity, 
harmony, love, etcetera. The relative world is more divine, infinite, 
harmonious and loving 
following meditation.  A simple

[FairfieldLife] FWD Mother Meera to Visit America

2005-11-05 Thread dhamiltony2k5

Late breaking news:


FWD:
Mother Meera in America

U.S.A. and Canada: May 19-June 12, 2006

7-9 pm Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Monday

Mother Meera, is making her first trip to the US since 1981. She 
will give darshan in silence for up to 250 people each evening. 
There is no charge. Reservations are required and will be taken by 
email and by phone by Mother Meera's American team. Children are not 
allowed to come. They receive Mother's blessings through their 
parents. Visitors should be able to sit quietly for about two hours.

The outward form of darshan is this: People sit before Mother Meera 
in silence with eyes open or closed. One by one they approach Mother 
Meera for personal darshan. Each one kneels before her [pranam] so 
she can hold their head. When she lets go, the person sits back on 
their heels and looks into Mother's eyes while she looks back into 
theirs. This moment has all the time in the world in it. People who 
can't kneel, sit in a chair in front of Mother. Those in wheelchairs 
may also approach Mother.


Mother says: "During pranam the work is on the deep aspect of the 
being, the soul, while darshan [looking] helps the personality and 
the life situation."

Mother also says: "I have come to say that all paths are as good as 
each other and all lead to the Divine, and that therefore various 
believers should respect each other's ways"

Mother Meera seldom sees visitors outside of darshan. She doesn't 
lecture, nor does she have a movement or an ashram. Mother currently 
gives darshan in Schaumburg, Germany. 

Contact information: Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] to express interest in 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: A Short List of Items People Claiming MMY's

2005-11-05 Thread Irmeli Mattsson

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Tom T writes:
> It is my experience that one can have complete awareness of
> surroundings during sleep. The only problemo is that of complete and
> utter boredom. It is like watching the old Test Pattern on TV which
> used to be on most of the night. After so many nights of the same
> bedroom and the same bed it is all the same, all the same. After a
> while one just shuts it down. Deep sleep is preferable to total
> boredom. Spend weeks, months and years being aware of your intimate
> surroundings and see how long before you shut it down. TOm
>

The boredom can be avoided by starting actively in the deep restful
meditative state to pay attention to one's energies. You just observe
if a tiny little feeling of anxiety or some tension can be recognized
somewhere in the body.

Almost always it is the case at least for me. Then I let my attention
just rest on the felt anxiety or tension. Often gradually the
sensation starts to change its character, and finally fear or some
other heavy emotion emerges. At that point it is important to draw the
attention away from the object of one's fear and instead focus on
feeling the fear itself and where it could be located in the body.
This way not a minute is boring.
The only problem is that sometimes the hullabaloo can get too intense.
Deep breathing can be helpful then. If even that doesn't help, I have
gradually figured out some other means to control and work through the
situation.

I need maybe 4 hours deep sleep a night; the rest of the time goes on
like this mostly. I spend in bed about 9 hours. Only occasionally I
sleep normally the whole night. I feel equally good on the daytime
both ways, but I very much prefer the processing because a lot of
healing happens that way.
When I do this processing during the nights I may feel I'm fully
awake, but that's not actually the case. If I go in between the
processing to the loo, often only the other eye opens up. The other
half feels to be calmly sleeping during the whole loo visit.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Letter from Farrokh - Now Situation in India

2005-11-05 Thread Jason Spock










 
  Were you in the Production side or Marketing side of the Ayurvedic business.??  May I know why the TM-org told you to stop your business.??
 
  'SriSri Ayurveda' by SriSri.Ravishankar seems to be doing well.  It's based in Bangalore in India.  'Dabur-india' and 'Himalaya & co' are well known companies
 
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From: "anonymousff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 21:35:52 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Was Letter from Farrokh - Now Situation in India 
 >> I was in the ayurvedic business before the TM org got >>involved and, in fact, got told to stop by the TM org.
>>Bazaar of India (http://www.bazaarofindia.com/)of >>Berkeley, CA They are known for their high quality >>raw (powdered) herbs, all of which are organically >>grown.
 
>>2) Banyan Botanicals (http://www.banyanbotanicals.com/)These are both >>excellent companies. Banyan makes more formulas than >>Bazaar of India, but B of I also makes formulas in >>addition to raw herbs. > Ken
 
       
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Letter from Farrokh - Now Situation in India

2005-11-05 Thread shukra69

this dude in Oregon makes some seriously good rasayanas
www.ayurveda-herbs.com


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > My advise to everyone is stick to well known standard companies 
> > if you are purchasing Ayurvedic medicines.
> > 
> > Do you have some names on well known standard companies, making 
> > Ayurvedic Medicines?
> > Ingegerd
> >
> 
> Hi Ingegerd
> 
> I was in the ayurvedic business before the TM org got involved and, in
> fact, got told to stop by the TM org. The two very best companies I
> know of are as follows:
> 
> Here are two of the better ones:
> 
> 1) Bazaar of India (http://www.bazaarofindia.com/)of Berkeley, CA
> They are known for their high quality raw (powdered) herbs, all of
> which are organically grown. They were initially the main supplier to
> MAV when the whole ayurvedic aspect of the TM org started
> 
> 2) Banyan Botanicals (http://www.banyanbotanicals.com/)
> 
> These are both excellent companies. Banyan makes more formulas than
> Bazaar of India, but B of I also makes formulas in addition to raw
herbs.
> 
> Ken
>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Pundits on Canadian islands?

2005-11-05 Thread shukra69

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Maybe the pundits will be able to get visas for Canada, although the 
> weather is even worse than Iowa's:
The weather is much milder than Iowa. It might be quite a good idea
for the pundits to be in an isolated island .
> 
> "At the inauguration celebration, representatives from the Global 
> Country unveiled their plans for the islands. It will soon be home to 
> a "university" of 200 students, a parliament building for 200 
> representatives from all over the world and a home for 121 experts 
> from India in transcendental meditation and Yogic Flying."
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/bher4
>







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's brother

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> on 11/3/05 6:55 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> 
> >> It seems he has 3 shifts of secretaries, so this may give you an
> >> idea about his
> >> "sleeping patterns"
> >> 
> > 
> > If Rick is to believed, his "sleeping patterns" must rival Hugh
> > Hefner's...
> 
> He always had an extraordinary energy level and could out-work 
everyone
> around him, regardless of what he was doing in his "spare" time.
>

Hef?

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Mantras: Letter from Farrokh

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 11/4/05 11:21 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > [snip]
> > 
> >> Hindus who are taught TM in India are asked who their cherished
> > deity is,
> >> and on that basis their mantra is chosen.
> > 
> > [snip]
> > 
> > 
> > Whoa, hold on there, Cowboy...repeat again: TM mantras are chosen 
HOW
> > in India?  And where, pray tell, did you hear this?
> 
> I heard that many times over the years. I'll check with some people 
and get
> back to you. Amma assigns mantras that way. Very traditional over 
there.
>

So is mantra assignment according to age...







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Mantras: was Letter from Farrokh

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 11/4/05 10:47 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> 
> >> on 11/3/05 3:23 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> 
> >>> During the proper practice of TM, the mantras are indeed
> > meaningless
> >>> sounds (TM properly practiced has nothing to with any meaning 
one
> >>> might assign to the mantras, but to their use as a vehicle of
> >>> attention, a sound resonating with the mind in a way that leads
> > to
> >>> transcendence). Outside of the practice of TM, if Hindus want to
> >>> assign meanings to the sounds, that has nothing to do with the
> >>> practice of TM.
> >> 
> > 
> >> Mantras are effective by virtue of the energy and intelligence
> > imbued in
> >> them or associated with them. You tickle a Devata, the Devata
> > tickles you
> >> back. Indians understand this, and I've heard Maharishi talk 
about
> > it. He
> >> just emphasized the meaningless sound bit to make TM palatable in
> > the West.
> >> 
> > *
> > 
> > People who correctly practice TM, whether they are Hindus or not, 
do
> > not think of tickling devatas during the practice of TM -- they
> > follow the instructions given for using the mantra as a vehicle of
> > attention, and transcend all thought (if one were to embrace
> > thoughts of tickling or whatever, this would disable 
transcending).
> > So the practice of TM is the same for all practitioners, Hindu or
> > not, although Hindus are certainly entitled to think about their
> > practice or anything else the way they want to outside of the
> > practice of TM.
> 
> I understand that, but whether or not they realize the connection 
between
> their mantra and the Devata associated with it, that connection 
exists, and
> by virtue of it, the mantra has its intended effect. I used to have 
an audio
> tape from a Rishikesh TTC in which Maharishi talked about this in 
some
> detail. Hey Vaj, you can elaborate on this stuff, can't you?
>

Raj was at Rishikesh TTC?







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[FairfieldLife] Re: Pundits on Canadian islands?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
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>
> on 11/4/05 10:40 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Maybe the pundits will be able to get visas for Canada, although the
> > weather is even worse than Iowa's:
> > 
> > "At the inauguration celebration, representatives from the Global
> > Country unveiled their plans for the islands. It will soon be home 
to
> > a "university" of 200 students, a parliament building for 200
> > representatives from all over the world and a home for 121 experts
> > from India in transcendental meditation and Yogic Flying."
> > 
> > http://tinyurl.com/bher4
> 
> Don't worry, nothing will be built there and no pundits will come.
>

SO nothing was built in Fairfield? 






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Mantras: Letter from Farrokh

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 11/3/05 12:38 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >> 
> >> I wonder about this "meaningless sounds" business. At the
> >> preparatory  lecture, I always used to say the mantras 
were "sounds
> >> the effects of which are known," or "words selected for their 
sound
> >> quality,"  or something like that.  I never said, "meaningless
> >> sounds" and I wonder whether using that phrase was ever an 
official
> >> instruction. It's a very unfortunate phrase, in my opinion.
> > 
> > Whatever associations they may have in Hinduism,
> > as they're used in TM they're semantically
> > meaningless sounds.
> 
> Meaningless, but the bija mantras are fundamentally connected with 
Devatas,
> and these Devatas are instrumental in producing the effects that 
result from
> meditating with their mantras.
> > 
> > I know all the "names of gods" stuff from Trancenet,
> > but that's just inaccurate.  At most, they're sounds
> > that are associated with gods in Hinduism.
> 
> But if you regard Hinduism as anything more than a mythological 
tradition,
> then you might acknowledge that it's colorful depictions of gods and
> goddesses might represent actual celestial entities who are powerful
> governors of nature's mechanics.
> 
> >But even
> > Hindus who are taught TM are told to treat the mantra
> > as pure sound during meditation (at least that's what
> > I was told by a long-time TM teacher who did a lot of
> > initiations in India way back when).
> 
> Hindus who are taught TM in India are asked who their cherished 
deity is,
> and on that basis their mantra is chosen.

Are you certain of this?

> > 
> > If you want to get all esoteric about it, the mantras
> > are in some sense devas, but then you have to get into
> > the whole Nama-rupa thing and how Sanskrit syllables
> > aren't symbolic, like regular language; they don't
> > *stand for* things, they *are* things.  And if you're
> > going to say mantras are gods, well, you gotta first
> > believe in gods.  I'm a lot happier with "impulses of
> > creative intelligence," myself.
> 
> Just a Western phrase Maharishi chose to make a Hindu concept seem 
more
> scientific.
>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: Mantras: Letter from Farrokh

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> on 11/3/05 3:23 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > During the proper practice of TM, the mantras are indeed 
meaningless
> > sounds (TM properly practiced has nothing to with any meaning one
> > might assign to the mantras, but to their use as a vehicle of
> > attention, a sound resonating with the mind in a way that leads to
> > transcendence). Outside of the practice of TM, if Hindus want to
> > assign meanings to the sounds, that has nothing to do with the
> > practice of TM. 
> 
> Mantras are effective by virtue of the energy and intelligence 
imbued in
> them or associated with them. You tickle a Devata, the Devata 
tickles you
> back. Indians understand this, and I've heard Maharishi talk about 
it. He
> just emphasized the meaningless sound bit to make TM palatable in 
the West.
>

So there not being a meaning associated with the TM mantras is a 
bogus thing? The idea of assigned meaning keeping you from 
transcending is a big white lie?

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[FairfieldLife] Re: LA Yoga mag on TM, Lynch

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Nov 4, 2005, at 8:25 PM, dhamiltony2k5 wrote:
> 
> > ---  bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> http://www.layogamagazine.com/issue%2022/feature/feature.htm
> >>
> >>
> >
> > "Lynch established The David Lynch Foundation to fund students who
> > want to learn the Transcendental Meditation technique. So far the
> > foundation has dispensed $200,000 to seven Consciousness-Based 
schools
> > to cover the cost of Transcendental Meditation instruction for its
> > students. It has three phases for development: 1) raise $1.2 
million
> > to teach 500 students at American University in Washington, D.C., 
2)
> > raise $20 million to teach 10,000 students across the nation and 
3)
> > create a $100 million endowment to build and sustain a campus of 
World
> > Peace in Washington, D.C., which would include Consciousness-Based
> > education in its curriculum."
> >
> > Yes, seems persuasive except net effect likely will be they are 
just
> > educating people to start other meditation techniques at these 
prices
> > and once people start googling a little farther looking in to 
where
> > the money does all goe.
> 
> It's sad to me to see that people will swallow this swill so easily.
> 
> Having to endow large sums of money so a simple meditation 
technique  
> might be taught? Give me a fucking break! It's just "TM", what's 
the  
> big deal? It should be free...that is if they're *really* 
interested  
> in world peace. Of course the truth is, they're not. It's all 
about  
> money. Just more selling of the veda. I hear vedic hell is nice 
this  
> time of year.
>

So there's no good that could come of charging the extra money? No 
projects that could be done (letalone are being done) using that 
money?








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[FairfieldLife] Re: LA Yoga mag on TM, Lynch

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> ---  bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > http://www.layogamagazine.com/issue%2022/feature/feature.htm
> >
> 
> "Lynch established The David Lynch Foundation to fund students who 
> want to learn the Transcendental Meditation technique. So far the 
> foundation has dispensed $200,000 to seven Consciousness-Based 
schools 
> to cover the cost of Transcendental Meditation instruction for its 
> students. It has three phases for development: 1) raise $1.2 
million 
> to teach 500 students at American University in Washington, D.C., 
2) 
> raise $20 million to teach 10,000 students across the nation and 3) 
> create a $100 million endowment to build and sustain a campus of 
World 
> Peace in Washington, D.C., which would include Consciousness-Based 
> education in its curriculum."
> 
> Yes, seems persuasive except net effect likely will be they are 
just 
> educating people to start other meditation techniques at these 
prices 
> and once people start googling a little farther looking in to where 
> the money does all goe.
>


So where DOES the money all go?

And for those who are fortunate enough to be beneficiaries of the DL 
Foundation, why should they care?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: A Short List of Items People Claiming MMY's

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > On Nov 4, 2005, at 6:31 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> > 
> > > on 11/4/05 8:04 AM, Paula Youmans at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> I get this and find it just as boring a lot of the time and 
would  
> > >> like
> > >> to avoid it if I could.
> > >>
> > >> 
> > >> I had the same problem with sleep. I don't think sleeping less 
is  
> > >> a huge sign of enlightenment, so I'm not claiming anything, 
but  
> > >> there was a good year of my life (and it still happens off and 
on)  
> > >> that I was lucky to get 4 hours of sleep. After four to five  
> > >> hours, I was completely awake. Normally I don't think it would 
be  
> > >> so bad, but when you are walking around a house (and a city) 
where  
> > >> everyone else is asleep, the cat and dog are even asleepoh my 
god  
> > >> it can start getting to you. For a couple of months I did a 
lot of  
> > >> writing and art and cleaning and..there are really a LOT of 
hours  
> > >> in a day.
> > >> I just had to retrain myself to sleepwhether I needed it or 
not.
> > >> Now, I can finally lie down and just systematically shut down  
> > >> (thank god) .but I feel bad for people that report these 
types of  
> > >> problems. It can get really disturbing in western society when 
you  
> > >> don't sleep a lot.
> > >> I'm a doltseriously. If I can train myself to sleep normal 
again,  
> > >> then anyone can.
> > >> Good luck to you guysthat bites (I know).
> > >> ~Paula
> > >>
> > > I enjoy sleeping but I would love to be able to get by on a 
few  
> > > hours. There are so many things I would rather be doing.  
> > > Meditating, reading, walking in the woods, etc.
> > 
> > That's the way I feel as well. There's nothing nicer than good 
yogic  
> > sleep--as you awake feeling much fresher than even the best 
regular  
> > sleep--and then awakening several hours before dawn to do a nice 
long  
> > practice in the quiet before sunrise is wonderful.
> >
> 
> Desires so deep, they even have to do with sleep. :)
> 
> Not exactly, "nothing can be added to this state, and nothing can be
> taken away".
>

So true. How about "spontaneous right sleep?"






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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Anklesaria's' position with the TMO

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- jim_flanegin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > And find a picture of Maharishi and shake your
> > > finger at him and 
> > > tell him what a bastard he is, if it makes you feel
> > > better. 
> > > Then...on to the next injustice in the world.
> > 
> > Excellent suggestion! Like Guru Dev used to say, don't
> > give me your money and gifts, give me your sins! Who
> > better to yell at than MMY. Like the ocean accepting
> > all the mud from the rivers draining into it. What an
> > honor to have the absolute in human form for you to
> > crap out your attachments. THAT'S ONE REASON WHY YOU
> > ARE IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM. Crap away!!! 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Since when did I sign on to a guru-disciple relationship?
> 
> I thought the TM technique was not predicated on a religion or 
> philosophy...
> 

Since when did you pay $1 million for a month's attention from MMY?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Letter from Farrokh - Now Situation in India

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > My advise to everyone is stick to well known standard companies 
> if you are purchasing Ayurvedic medicines.
> 
> Do you have some names on well known standard companies, making 
> Ayurvedic Medicines?
> Ingegerd
>

You mean, aside from MAPI?

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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Anklesaria's' position with the TMO

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > on 11/4/05 11:55 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > 
> > > I recently read an article about David Lynch in which he is 
> quoted
> > > as saying that he meditates three times a day...he does an 
extra 
> one
> > > at lunch time.  And why does he do the extra one?  Because MMY 
> told
> > > him to do it.
> > 
> > If you want to  meditate 3x a day, you don't need Maharishi's go-
> ahead. I
> > meditate 3x a day, including one before bed, because Maharishi 
> once told me
> > to,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sorry, but it disturbs me that a so-called "universal technique" 
> isn't so universal when we find out that some people get special 
> instructions for the technique.
> 
> It takes away from it.
> 
> 
> 

Somepeople get told to meditate less than 20 minutes at a time. Some 
get told to meditate many times a day (when sickin bed) as 
comfortable.

David Lynch pays $1 million to get told to meditate a 3rd time and 
you're upset because...?

> 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Anklesaria's' position with the TMO

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ingegerd" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I think that this letter from Farrokh is representative for most 
> of 
> > the Independent TM-Teachers when it says: "If we are teachers 
> > of "supreme knowledge" with the gift to remove suffering, how 
much 
> > greater is our sin if we fail to use our talent for the poor and 
> > under-privileged and use it exclusively for the rich".
> 
> 
> 
> ...and it is not only that only the rich can afford TM at its high 
> prices, it is also the ability through the riches to get special 
> instructions to complement your TM practise (and I'm not talking 
> here about being able to afford advanced techniques or other 
> programs such as panchikarma or vedic vibration).
> 
> I recently read an article about David Lynch in which he is quoted 
> as saying that he meditates three times a day...he does an extra 
one 
> at lunch time.  And why does he do the extra one?  Because MMY told 
> him to do it.
> 
> You see, Lynch was able to pay $1 million to go on a millionaire's 
> course and bought access to MMY.  And it was a result of his 
> richness that got his extra TM instructions.
> 
> This to me is a big, big deal; it's one thing to make the price of 
> TM $2,500 and to have all these extra techniques and programs 
> available at thousands of dollars.  It's quite another thing to now 
> pollute the universality of the technique by doling out special 
> instructions JUST FOR THE TM TECHNIQUE based upon money and access.
> 
> How horrible what this wonderful movement has come to...
> 
> 

And yet, Lynch paid for the access directly to MMY. How many 
millionsof people wanted or still want that kind of access to MMY? 
MMY has set up a criteria of having lots of money to get that kind of 
access. What criteria do other people have to allow that kind of 
access? How many people does Ammachi devote a month's time to and how 
does she decide who gets that time?

BTW, Lynch then turns around and puts his money (and time) where his 
mouth is. If you had access to millions of dollars, would you be 
willing to pay MMY for a month's individualized attention? Would you 
be willing to put your reputation on the line in public to promote a 
fund-raiser to raise money for the TMO?

Why all this criticism against people with money, given that you're 
so into capitalism?

> 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Letter from Farrokh - Now Situation in India

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
>  
>  
> I agree with you Mark, In fact, my initator equates Maharishi 
on par with Christ and Buddha.!!  He thinks all allegations of 
mistakes on MMY are false.
>  
> However, he openly admits that only Allopathic medicines saved 
Maharishi.  If there is an medical emergency only allopathic 
treatment works.
>  
> My view is that there has to be a proper balance between 
Naturapathy and Allopathy, both can complement each other.
>  
>  Unfortunately, TMO still sticks rigidly to Ayurveda and 
defames Allopathy to a great extant.  I remember reading an article 
in a website where a woman student taking Maharishi's course was ill 
treated by the TMO for asking for Allopathic medicines.
>  
> Also, I would like to point out that there is a huge 'multi-
billion dollar Herbal fraud' taking place all over the globe.  Most 
of these medicines are improperly made and are of dubious quality.  
People have developed serious complications taking these herbal 
medicines, some have even died as a result.  There was a programme on 
discovery channel on this couple of years back.
>  
>  Heavy metal and pesticide contamination in manufacture of 
herbal medicine and also bacterial and viral contamination in the 
manufacture of these medicines is a huge problem.  Most of these 
medicines are not sterile because manufacturing conditions are dirty.
>  
> My advise to everyone is stick to well known standard companies 
if you are purchasing Ayurvedic medicines.
>  

MAPI NOT being one of these, despite their claims?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Anklesaria's' position with the TMO

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >
> > Farrokh makes some excellent points.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "some"?
> 
> That's all you can concede to the guy, Spare Egg, is "some".
> 
> How big of you.
> 
> By using the word "some", you indicate a gap between observing that 
> ALL of what he said is excellent and your use of "some".
> 
> I'd be curious to know what exactly is it in Farroukh's letter that 
> is NOT excellent or that you find fault with...
> 

Poking fun at the rajahs is a cheap shot, IMHO. They are willing to 
play MMY's game, having paid quite a bit for the privelege, and at 
the same time are willing to work quite hard at making the TMO work. 
Whether their efforts will be fruitful in the long run is anyone's 
guess at this point.

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Was Letter from Farrokh - Now Situation in India

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" 
[...]
 From
> what I can tell, the nephews are in control of the accounts.  I really
> doubt MMY trusts anyone except Indians to be in control of the money.

Bevan is in control, according to the records, of the Global 
Development fund of several hundred million dollars US.

BTW, how do you know that your sources about the nephews' corruption 
are accurate? There's more petty finger-pointing done in India at all 
levels than just about any other country in the world, as far as I can 
tell...





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[FairfieldLife] Re: FF , Active Spiritual Practice Groups

What corruption are we talking about in the TMO?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Looking at Fairfield.I ran into two sets of different folks 
> yesterday who were out on the streets of Fairfield looking for 
> places here to re-settle here.  One from the West Coast with 
coastal 
> property lierally.  The other from NY.   Both were clutching copies 
> of the Weekly Reader's "FF Directory of Active Spiritual Practice 
> Groups" which Fairfudlians had provided them with..They are 
> excited about Fairfield because of what is going on here in the 
> active spiritual meditating community, not really because of the 
> TMO.  Actually both sets were pretty offended by how it goes with 
> the TMO now and its corruptions.  Both were pretty clear about 
> expressing that.
> 
> It is real interesting in trend to see how many new comers have 
> moved here already because of the larger meditatingcommunity.  
> 
> The preamble of the Directory says it well:  "Directory of Active 
> Fairfield Spiritual Practice Groups 
>  
> Outside of Fairfield, people intently ask, "What is going on in 
> Fairfield?" The spiritual, utopian side of Fairfield is something 
> they are wondering about. Fairfield has become recognized as a 
> spiritual Mecca of sorts, ranking with Sedona, Arizona, Boulder and 
> Crestone, Colorado, Ashville, North Carolina and the like. Within 
> these past three decades, Fairfield spiritual practice groups have 
> matured, giving this community a rich, new face. 
> The long-time Fairfield meditating community today is its own 
center 
> for spiritual practice. The breadth of spiritual practice groups in 
> Fairfield is now a unique feature of our town in the 21st Century."
> 
> The directory was posted at:
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/77260
> 
> 
> -Doug
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "dhamiltony2k5" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Fairfield Weekly Reader this week published a directory 
of 'active 
> > spiritual practice groups' in Fairfield.  Twenty seven groups 
> listed.  
> > 
> > In looking over the list there is a range, but they are active 
> ones.  
> > Evidently there is a lot of spiritual practice going on here 
> > independent of the TMO.  Going through the list, it is pretty 
> evident 
> > too that there are now way more people living here doing 'other 
> > things'than going to the domes.
> > 
> > -Doug
> >
>






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[FairfieldLife] Re: A Short List of Items People Claiming MMY's "Cosmic Consciousness"

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> 
> On Nov 3, 2005, at 10:39 PM, sparaig wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> >> told. It's funny where the experience stops is almost always 
there--
> >> sometimes with the occasional embellishment or addition. That's 
very
> >> telling, esp. if you have experience yourself...
> >>
> >
> > Why share such info in the first place?
> 
> Presumably to teach, the impetus being compassion, not ego.
>

I have a hard time presuming that in this context...

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[FairfieldLife] Re: A Short List of Items People Claiming MMY's "Cosmic Consciousness" seem to miss.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> IMO, no he does not touch on the full criteria and experience of  
> turiyatita ("Cosmic Consciousness"),

At least you agree its your opinion...

 let alone the full path to  
> attain it--although he does admit that 1) samkhya is the structure 
of  
> CC and 2) Patanjali the means. If it's obvious to you that you were  
> never taught Patanjali fully, then there's your answer. If you think  
> you already were taught Patanjali, then you already have it.
>

In your opinion?

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[FairfieldLife] Re: The Anklesaria's' position with the TMO

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Farrokh makes some excellent points. I wonder if MMY is aware 
of 
> > the 
> > > > controversy or if Bevan is asserting authority as followup to 
a 
> > long-
> > > > time personality conflict...
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer 
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > To the many who have expressed their support or concerns to 
us, 
> > > > this is to
> > > > > clarify our position with the TMO.
> > > > > 
> > > 
> > > It's not a personality conflict. It's about money, control and 
> > power.
> > 
> > That's a personality thing, is it not?
> > 
> > > Just another indicator of where the TMO really places value.
> > > 
> > > JohnY
> > > Just another of the unrecertified multitudes ;-)
> > >
> >
> Yup, but I thought you meant a personal disagreement between Bevan 
and
> Farrokh, that's why I said what I did. 

I think any personal conflict between Bevan and Farrokh would 
certainly contribute to this thing, don't you?





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[FairfieldLife] Re: A Short List of Items People Claiming MMY's "Cosmic Consciousness" seem to m