[FairfieldLife] Sam Harris on Bertrand Russell's "teapot argument"
By Sam Harris While "An Atheist Manifesto" received considerable support from readers of Truthdig, a variety of criticisms surfaced in the reader commentary. I summarize and respond to some of these below: 1. Just because you haven't seen God doesn't mean He doesn't exist. Atheism, therefore, is as much an act of faith as theism is. Bertrand Russell demolished this fallacy nearly a century ago with his famous teapot argument. As his response appears to me to be perfect, I simply offer it here: Many orthodox people speak as though it were the business of sceptics to disprove received dogmas rather than of dogmatists to prove them. This is, of course, a mistake. If I were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes. But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense. If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as the sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school, hesitation to believe in its existence would become a mark of eccentricity and entitle the doubter to the attentions of the psychiatrist in an enlightened age or of the Inquisitor in an earlier time. If a valid retort to Russell has ever seen the light of day, I'm not aware of it. As I tried to make clear in my essay, the atheist is not in the business of making claims on insufficient evidence, he merely resists such claims whenever they appear on the lips of the faithful. I don't think it can be pointed out too often that the faithful do this as well. Every Christian knows what it is like to find the claims of Muslimsthat the Holy Koran is the perfect word of God, that Muhammad flew to heaven on a winged horse, etc.to be utterly incredible. Everyone who is not a Mormon knows at a glance that Mormonism is bogus. And everyone of every religious denomination knows what it is like not to believe in Zeus. Everyone has rejected an infinite number of spurious claims about God. The atheist rejects infinity plus one. 2. You will never get rid of religion, so criticizing it is just a waste of time. I would be the first to admit that the prospects for eradicating religious dogmatism in our world do not seem good. Still, the same could have been said about efforts to abolish slavery at the beginning of the 19th century. Anyone who spoke about eradicating slavery in the United States around 1810 surely appeared to be wasting his time, and wasting it dangerously. The analogy is not perfect, but it is suggestive. If we ever do transcend our religious bewilderment, we will look back upon this period in human history with absolute astonishment. How could it have been possible for people to believe such things in the 21st century? How could it be that they allowed their world to become so dangerously fragmented by empty notions about God and Paradise? The answers to these questions are as embarrassing as those that sent the last slave ship sailing to America as late as 1859 (the same year that Darwin published "The Origin of Species"). 3. Religion is our only source of morality. Without it, we would be plunged into a secular moral chaos. This concern is so widespread that I have responded to it at some length. A version of this response will soon be published in the magazine Free Inquiry (www.secularhumanism.org) as "The Myth of Secular Moral Chaos." One cannot criticize religious dogmatism for long without encountering the following claim, advanced as though it were a self-evident fact of nature: there is no secular basis for morality. Raping and killing children can only be really wrong, the thinking goes, if there is a God who says it is. Otherwise, right and wrong would be mere matters of social construction, and any society will be at liberty to decide that raping and killing children is actually a wholesome form of family fun. In the absence of God, John Wayne Gacy would be a better person than Albert Schweitzer, if only more people agreed with him. It is simply amazing how widespread this fear of secular moral chaos is, given how many misconceptions about morality and human nature are required to set it whirling in a person's brain. There is undoubtedly much to be said against the spurious linkage between faith and morality, but the following three points should suffice. If a book like the bible were the only reliable blueprint for human decency that we have, it would be impossible (both practically and logically) to criticize it in moral terms. But it is extraordinarily easy to criticize the morality one finds in bible, as most of it is simply odious and incompatible with a civil society. Th
[FairfieldLife] Re: Photos of Brahmastan/ Girish Varma
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > on 2/10/06 1:23 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > wrote: > > >> > > >> This web site is a delightful photo story of the > > celebration and trip to > > >> India for January 12th, put together by a > > Russian Purusha. There is > > >> running English translation > > >> > > >> http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/ > > >> > > > The photos were great. But who is Girish Varma, > > exactly? > > > What does he do in the TMO? His picture is hung > > on the wall in the background > > > of a few > > > photos, and his picture is the same size as and > > right next to that of > > > Maharishi. > > > > He is Maharishi's nephew, and AFAIK, he's the head > > cheese over there. > > I get a strange vibe from that dude! > His name is on almost every board for each org that files tax returns. He's also on all the Indian TM sites that mix TM and business ventures. Yup it's a strange vibe. JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eggs-what Maharishi said (for those who care)
Here's the first post in this particular "egg" thread: From: "anonyff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:10 pm Subject: Eggs-what Maharishi said (for those who care) anonyff Online Now Send IM Send Email Send Email On my TTC, back in early '71, in a big discussion about diet, prompted as I recall, by Andy Kaufman, who relentlessly pursued this topic with M, M said, about eggs: "One egg in a lifetime is too many." --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > > > > > > > --- Alex Stanley > > wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > What physiologically, chemically nutritionally, > > > even spiritually, is > > > > wrong with eggs? > > > > > > Nothing, unless you happen to have an allergy or > > > other problem with > > > them. From what I've read, eggs and whey are the two > > > best protein > > > sources available. > > > > But why would you want to ruin your chances? > > > +++I thought I had been following the "egg" story but must have missed > the point that it would ruin something-could you enlighten me. N. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > ~--> > > > Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and > > > poor with hope and healing > > > > > http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM > > > > > ~-> > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Or go to: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eggs-what Maharishi said (for those who care)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- Alex Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff > > wrote: > > > > > > What physiologically, chemically nutritionally, > > even spiritually, is > > > wrong with eggs? > > > > Nothing, unless you happen to have an allergy or > > other problem with > > them. From what I've read, eggs and whey are the two > > best protein > > sources available. > > But why would you want to ruin your chances? > +++I thought I had been following the "egg" story but must have missed the point that it would ruin something-could you enlighten me. N. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ~--> > > Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and > > poor with hope and healing > > > http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM > > > ~-> > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Eggs-what Maharishi said (for those who care)
--- Alex Stanley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > What physiologically, chemically nutritionally, > even spiritually, is > > wrong with eggs? > > Nothing, unless you happen to have an allergy or > other problem with > them. From what I've read, eggs and whey are the two > best protein > sources available. But why would you want to ruin your chances? > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ~--> > Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and > poor with hope and healing > http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM > ~-> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Seeking people to interview for spirituality book
I am writing a non-fiction book about the deeper spiritual meaning of life challenges. My intent is to help people see meaning in experiences that may appear to be without purpose. If you might like to share your personal story in order to help others who face the same challenge, please CONTACT ME DIRECTLY at [EMAIL PROTECTED] You may remain anonymous in the book if you prefer. In your email, please summarize the challenges you have faced in life. Please mention that you saw the post on this list. Thank you. Robert Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Photos of Brahmastan/ Girish Varma
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > on 2/10/06 1:23 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > > wrote: > > >> > > >> This web site is a delightful photo story of the > > >> celebration and trip to > > >> India for January 12th, put together by a > > >> Russian Purusha. There is > > >> running English translation > > >> > > >> http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/ > > >> > > > The photos were great. But who is Girish Varma, > > > exactly? > > > What does he do in the TMO? His picture is hung > > > on the wall in the background > > > of a few > > > photos, and his picture is the same size as and > > > right next to that of > > > Maharishi. > > > > He is Maharishi's nephew, and AFAIK, he's the head > > cheese over there. > > I get a strange vibe from that dude! Me, too. I wouldn't be surprised if that's where all the money was going. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Some Purusha in Livingston Manor
Naw, just the joyous neurological impact of sperm retention and too much mercury in one's diet. --- Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This guy needs a quick course in grammar. > > Sal > > > On Feb 10, 2006, at 10:21 AM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > other news 27 Purusha have the now arrived in L/ > manor NY they are > > ones would either could not go to Holland or India > for one or a > > number of reasons. The say they do projects there > I know not if all do > > so some medical reasons others family reasons etc. > & should or must be > > in NA __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Photos of Brahmastan/ Girish Varma
--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 2/10/06 1:23 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> This web site is a delightful photo story of the > celebration and trip to > >> India for January 12th, put together by a > Russian Purusha. There is > >> running English translation > >> > >> http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/ > >> > > The photos were great. But who is Girish Varma, > exactly? > > What does he do in the TMO? His picture is hung > on the wall in the background > > of a few > > photos, and his picture is the same size as and > right next to that of > > Maharishi. > > He is Maharishi's nephew, and AFAIK, he's the head > cheese over there. I get a strange vibe from that dude! > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ~--> > Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and > poor with hope and healing > http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM > ~-> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Origins of mahaavaakyas?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister > wrote: > > > > > > Anyone know where mahaavaakyas like "tat tvam asi", > > "ahaM brahmaasmi", "ayam aatmaa brahma", "sarvaM > > khalvidaM brahma" are "taken" from? > > > > > * > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upanishads > Thanks! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/10/06 10:45:49 A.M. Central Standard > Time, > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > com writes: > > > > > > > > > The booing of Trent Lott was far from > > > > > exaggerated, I saw it and heard it and it wasn't just a > few. It > > > > > was loud and rude. > > > > > > > > The sound was turned up on the clips to exaggerate it. > > > > Those who were actually *there* at the rally are very > > > > clear that it was just a few people. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice try again Judy. I saw it live and it was shown on > different > > > stations > > > > and they were all equally loud. If one turned up and > distorted > > > the volume to > > > > sound like more, then they all did it, which is a little too > > much > > > for me to > > > > believe. I guess all the sound techs for all the major > stations > > > could have been > > > > republicans, part of the right wing conspiracy, who all > > conspired > > > to turn up > > > > and distort the booing to make it sound really bad. > > > > > > > > > > Probably due to the acoustics of the Church/Temple/meeting hall > > > where the funeral was taking place. > > > > > > Reminds me of the State of the Union Address by Clinton during > the > > > Monica scandal. That was the one where there was serious > > > discussion about not having Clinton appear (which would have > been > > > hard to do seeing that the State of the Union is a > constitutional > > > requirement) > > > > The Constitution does not require him to give > > a speech to Congress, just for the record. On > > the other hand, there wasn't any "serious > > discussion" about not having him appear either. > > > > > due to the scandal. But he did speak...and because of the > > acoustics > > > of the House or Senate (not sure which is the one in which the > > > president gives the address), even just one person cheering or > > > clapping sounds like 20 people... > > > > > > And this went a long way towards Clinton saving his presidency > > > because the impression it gave was that many, many people were > > > cheering him regardless of the actual number who were because > > > of the acoustics. > > > > Nonsense. Clinton's ratings were way high already, > > Monica or no Monica. > > This was right at the time that the scandal broke. Right, when his job approval rating was 59. Following the disclosure in February it went up to 65, and then for the rest of his term--right through impeachment-- it went up and down by a few points, hovering around 65 for most of that period, with a couple of very brief slippages down to 58. Just as I said. > Indeed, that > Sunday on ABC's "This Week" Sam Donaldson predicted that Clinton > would resign that week. Is that your idea of "serious discussion," a prediction from Sam Donaldson? > Easy to say "nonsense" in hindsight. There was serious discussion > that his presidency was over at the time. No, there was discussion by know-it-all pundits and hopeful right-wingers. The public was behind Clinton all along, did not want him impeached, by huge majorities, did not want him removed from office. And as I said, there was *no* serious discussion-- i.e., by anybody who counted--that he should not deliver the State of the Union in 1998. To claim that speech "saved his presidency" is just silly. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > The fascinating thing, for an open-minded TMer, is > > > > to watch the series and think about how Maharishi's > > > > language has shifted over the years into the realm > > > > of scare tactics. He still talks about Sat Yuga > > > > and a better world, but his fund-raising efforts > > > > these days are more often than not tied to pronoun- > > > > cements of impending doom if people don't send in > > > > their checks. > > > > > > > > > > Maharishi's language these days seems to be slightly subtler and > > more > > > elitist version of Oral Roberts fund raising techniques. Very > > > disappointing, and quite an illusion shatterer. > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > I remember someone asking him a long time ago how he would > > accomplish his goal of enlightening the world, and he said something > > like, "I will reproduce myself". > > > > And That is only possible if he first destroys any attachments to > > him. Down the path, down the path, down the path...cliff edge... > > > > I guess cutting those last attachments involves suing those aspiring > maharishis > no...not THOSE GUYS...they are on the proverbial SLOW BOAT...we on the other hand can easily achieve the goal. The trick being to just not settle for seekerdom anymore. That's it- done...poof...into the infinite forever more...no more CC-GC-UC-->straight into Brahman!!! Yippeee! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Photos of Brahmastan/ Girish Varma
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > > > on 2/10/06 1:23 PM, wayback71 at wayback71@ wrote: > > > > > > The photos were great. But who is Girish Varma, exactly? > > > What does he do in the TMO? His picture is hung on the wall > > > in the background of a few photos, and his picture is the > > > same size as and right next to that of Maharishi. > > > > He is Maharishi's nephew, and AFAIK, he's the head cheese over there. > > Mmmm... head cheese... http://tinyurl.com/dstju > * You should love this, then (makes a great omelette, too!): http://www.wavy.com/Global/story.asp?S=4478369&nav=23ii Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > wrote: > > > > > > I will take a look. BTW, I didn't say 'the world' I said the lesser > > > evil in the middle east. Just like I don't think that the TMO's > > > motives are pure or presented clearly, US's aren't either but I don't > > > think they are anywhere near as conspiritoral as all the hard lefties > > > think they are. It's always amazed me that so many TB's and former > > > TB's are so hard left in for a dime in for a dollar, I guess. I > > > express a different point of view than is normally expressed here, > > and > > > all of a sudden Jim labels me an ignorant waking state Kool- Aid > > > drinker, sheesh. Actually Jim forgets that we share a whole > > background > > > of similar TM experience. > > > > Hi John, I meant no personal labeling, or libeling for that matter. My > > point with the Kool-Aid remark was that sometimes we adopt points of > > view without thinking them through, echoing more what we have been > > told (or, really, bombarded with...). > > > > As to the 'ignorant waking state' comment, that wasn't meant to label > > you either. I was just stating the justification [for war] from the > > minds of those making such a decision. > > > > Thanks for bringing this up though. No offense meant to you. > > > > I know, Jim. I didn't take offense. I was exaggerating to make a > point, just like I figured you were ;-) > > JohnY > Cool- I wish you a great weekend! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: EFF gives a big thumbs-down to Google Desktop feature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > TurquoiseB wrote: > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > >>TurquoiseB wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>For those of you concerned about privacy issues, here's > >>>an interesting report from the Electronic Frontier > >>>Foundation on the new "Search Across Computers" feature > >>>of Google Desktop. It definitely sounds like something > >>>you'd want to avoid. > >>> > >>>http://www.eff.org/news/archives/2006_02.php#004400 > >>> > >>> > >>And as long as they wan to scan our e-mail, blogs & websites > >>for "our own protection?" Give them something good to read! > >>Let's overload their systems. > >>Read how: > >>http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=290 > >> > >> > > > >Ironically enough, the website at this link attempted > >to plant two spyware tracking cookies on my machine. > > > >You'd think that the people who rant about this stuff > >would've done the homework on their own ISPs. > > > > > This reason that I do most all this stuff on Linux box. ;-) > Me too JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > > > The fascinating thing, for an open-minded TMer, is > > > to watch the series and think about how Maharishi's > > > language has shifted over the years into the realm > > > of scare tactics. He still talks about Sat Yuga > > > and a better world, but his fund-raising efforts > > > these days are more often than not tied to pronoun- > > > cements of impending doom if people don't send in > > > their checks. > > > > > > > Maharishi's language these days seems to be slightly subtler and > more > > elitist version of Oral Roberts fund raising techniques. Very > > disappointing, and quite an illusion shatterer. > > > > JohnY > > > I remember someone asking him a long time ago how he would > accomplish his goal of enlightening the world, and he said something > like, "I will reproduce myself". > > And That is only possible if he first destroys any attachments to > him. Down the path, down the path, down the path...cliff edge... > I guess cutting those last attachments involves suing those aspiring maharishis Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > wrote: > > > > I will take a look. BTW, I didn't say 'the world' I said the lesser > > evil in the middle east. Just like I don't think that the TMO's > > motives are pure or presented clearly, US's aren't either but I don't > > think they are anywhere near as conspiritoral as all the hard lefties > > think they are. It's always amazed me that so many TB's and former > > TB's are so hard left in for a dime in for a dollar, I guess. I > > express a different point of view than is normally expressed here, > and > > all of a sudden Jim labels me an ignorant waking state Kool-Aid > > drinker, sheesh. Actually Jim forgets that we share a whole > background > > of similar TM experience. > > Hi John, I meant no personal labeling, or libeling for that matter. My > point with the Kool-Aid remark was that sometimes we adopt points of > view without thinking them through, echoing more what we have been > told (or, really, bombarded with...). > > As to the 'ignorant waking state' comment, that wasn't meant to label > you either. I was just stating the justification [for war] from the > minds of those making such a decision. > > Thanks for bringing this up though. No offense meant to you. > I know, Jim. I didn't take offense. I was exaggerating to make a point, just like I figured you were ;-) JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Origins of mahaavaakyas?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Anyone know where mahaavaakyas like "tat tvam asi", > "ahaM brahmaasmi", "ayam aatmaa brahma", "sarvaM > khalvidaM brahma" are "taken" from? > * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upanishads Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" > wrote: [snip] > > Fox News has been showing a clip a black preacher speaking at the > > service with the sound edited out and then commenting on how no-one > > applauded the guy. > > CNN and MSNBC as well. Actually the clip shows > about 5 seconds of the standing ovation for Lowery's > comment about WMD when in fact it lasted 20 seconds. > Fifteen seconds were edited out of the clip with no > indication the clip had been altered. Ya just can't trust those sneaky liberal media! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Photos of Brahmastan/ Girish Varma
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 2/10/06 1:23 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > The photos were great. But who is Girish Varma, exactly? > > What does he do in the TMO? His picture is hung on the wall > > in the background of a few photos, and his picture is the > > same size as and right next to that of Maharishi. > > He is Maharishi's nephew, and AFAIK, he's the head cheese over there. Mmmm... head cheese... http://tinyurl.com/dstju Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Yogic flying article
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Eggs-what Maharishi said (for those who care)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What physiologically, chemically nutritionally, even spiritually, is > wrong with eggs? Nothing, unless you happen to have an allergy or other problem with them. From what I've read, eggs and whey are the two best protein sources available. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/10/06 10:45:49 A.M. Central Standard Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > com writes: > > > > > > > The booing of Trent Lott was far from > > > > exaggerated, I saw it and heard it and it wasn't just a few. It > > > > was loud and rude. > > > > > > The sound was turned up on the clips to exaggerate it. > > > Those who were actually *there* at the rally are very > > > clear that it was just a few people. > > > > > > > > > > > > Nice try again Judy. I saw it live and it was shown on different > > stations > > > and they were all equally loud. If one turned up and distorted > > the volume to > > > sound like more, then they all did it, which is a little too > much > > for me to > > > believe. I guess all the sound techs for all the major stations > > could have been > > > republicans, part of the right wing conspiracy, who all > conspired > > to turn up > > > and distort the booing to make it sound really bad. > > > > > > > Probably due to the acoustics of the Church/Temple/meeting hall > > where the funeral was taking place. > > > > Reminds me of the State of the Union Address by Clinton during the > > Monica scandal. That was the one where there was serious > > discussion about not having Clinton appear (which would have been > > hard to do seeing that the State of the Union is a constitutional > > requirement) > > The Constitution does not require him to give > a speech to Congress, just for the record. On > the other hand, there wasn't any "serious > discussion" about not having him appear either. > > > due to the scandal. But he did speak...and because of the > acoustics > > of the House or Senate (not sure which is the one in which the > > president gives the address), even just one person cheering or > > clapping sounds like 20 people... > > > > And this went a long way towards Clinton saving his presidency > > because the impression it gave was that many, many people were > > cheering him regardless of the actual number who were because of > the > > acoustics. > > Nonsense. Clinton's ratings were way high already, > Monica or no Monica. > This was right at the time that the scandal broke. Indeed, that Sunday on ABC's "This Week" Sam Donaldson predicted that Clinton would resign that week. Easy to say "nonsense" in hindsight. There was serious discussion that his presidency was over at the time. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 2/10/06 10:45:49 A.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > com writes: > > > > > The booing of Trent Lott was far from > > > exaggerated, I saw it and heard it and it wasn't just a few. It > > > was loud and rude. > > > > The sound was turned up on the clips to exaggerate it. > > Those who were actually *there* at the rally are very > > clear that it was just a few people. > > > > > > > > Nice try again Judy. I saw it live and it was shown on different > stations > > and they were all equally loud. If one turned up and distorted > the volume to > > sound like more, then they all did it, which is a little too much > for me to > > believe. I guess all the sound techs for all the major stations > could have been > > republicans, part of the right wing conspiracy, who all conspired > to turn up > > and distort the booing to make it sound really bad. > > > > Probably due to the acoustics of the Church/Temple/meeting hall > where the funeral was taking place. > > Reminds me of the State of the Union Address by Clinton during the > Monica scandal. That was the one where there was serious > discussion about not having Clinton appear (which would have been > hard to do seeing that the State of the Union is a constitutional > requirement) The Constitution does not require him to give a speech to Congress, just for the record. On the other hand, there wasn't any "serious discussion" about not having him appear either. > due to the scandal. But he did speak...and because of the acoustics > of the House or Senate (not sure which is the one in which the > president gives the address), even just one person cheering or > clapping sounds like 20 people... > > And this went a long way towards Clinton saving his presidency > because the impression it gave was that many, many people were > cheering him regardless of the actual number who were because of the > acoustics. Nonsense. Clinton's ratings were way high already, Monica or no Monica. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 2/10/06 10:45:49 A.M. Central Standard Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > com writes: > > > > > > > The booing of Trent Lott was far from > > > > exaggerated, I saw it and heard it and it wasn't just a few. It > > > > was loud and rude. > > > > > > The sound was turned up on the clips to exaggerate it. > > > Those who were actually *there* at the rally are very > > > clear that it was just a few people. > > > > > > Nice try again Judy. I saw it live and it was shown on different > > > stations and they were all equally loud. If one turned up and > > > distorted the volume to sound like more, then they all did it, > > > which is a little too much for me to believe. > > > > Oh, please. Of course they all did it, just as they > > all did it with the "Dean scream," simply because it > > makes a better story. > > Fox News has been showing a clip a black preacher speaking at the > service with the sound edited out and then commenting on how no-one > applauded the guy. CNN and MSNBC as well. Actually the clip shows about 5 seconds of the standing ovation for Lowery's comment about WMD when in fact it lasted 20 seconds. Fifteen seconds were edited out of the clip with no indication the clip had been altered. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > _Honor & Civility, RIP_ > (http://www.weeklystandard.com/content/public/articles/000/000/001/830cl rob.asp) Uh-huh. This was written by Fred Barnes. What else would you expect him to write? Shall I post a link to a glowing report of the service from a progressive? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/10/06 10:45:49 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > com writes: > > > The booing of Trent Lott was far from > > exaggerated, I saw it and heard it and it wasn't just a few. It > > was loud and rude. > > The sound was turned up on the clips to exaggerate it. > Those who were actually *there* at the rally are very > clear that it was just a few people. > > > > Nice try again Judy. I saw it live and it was shown on different stations > and they were all equally loud. If one turned up and distorted the volume to > sound like more, then they all did it, which is a little too much for me to > believe. I guess all the sound techs for all the major stations could have been > republicans, part of the right wing conspiracy, who all conspired to turn up > and distort the booing to make it sound really bad. > Probably due to the acoustics of the Church/Temple/meeting hall where the funeral was taking place. Reminds me of the State of the Union Address by Clinton during the Monica scandal. That was the one where there was serious discussion about not having Clinton appear (which would have been hard to do seeing that the State of the Union is a constitutional requirement) due to the scandal. But he did speak...and because of the acoustics of the House or Senate (not sure which is the one in which the president gives the address), even just one person cheering or clapping sounds like 20 people... And this went a long way towards Clinton saving his presidency because the impression it gave was that many, many people were cheering him regardless of the actual number who were because of the acoustics. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/10/06 10:58:00 A.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Plus > which, the notion that people should not say anything > political at the funeral of a popular politician who > had been running for reelection when he was tragically > killed is so downright *stupid* it's almost impossible > to imagine anybody actually thinking it made any sense. > > Speaking about the politics and what Paul Weldstone stood for is > not what was objectionable. It was the political attacking Please quote the "attacks." > the chanting What's wrong with chanting? > the ranting and raving You'll have to be more specific. And remember the circumstances--who Wellstone was and when he was killed. > and the booing Nobody liked the booing, but it wasn't *nearly* as bad as it has been portrayed, as I've already pointed out. > that normal people found objectionable. It was not a > time of peace and reflection on his accomplishments. It turned into > attack on his political opponents. Please quote the attacks on his political opponents. Just quote *one* attack. > No class, cheap,and despirate. To me, telling mourners how to conduct a memorial service for someone they loved and you didn't is about as lacking in class as anything I can think of. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
> > > The booing of Trent Lott was far from > > > exaggerated, I saw it and heard it and it wasn't just a few. > > > It was loud and rude. > > > > The sound was turned up on the clips to exaggerate it. > > Those who were actually *there* at the rally are very > > clear that it was just a few people. > > > > Nice try again Judy. I saw it live and it was shown on different > > stations and they were all equally loud. If one turned up and > > distorted the volume to sound like more, then they all did it, > > which is a little too much for me to believe. > > Oh, please. Of course they all did it, just as they > all did it with the "Dean scream," simply because it > makes a better story. It's very possible that the TV station sound techs were "anti-TMers" as well. I wouldn't trust anybody if I were you. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/10/06 10:54:21 A.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > How can I do that? The administration certainly > isn't going to tell me, nor has it informed the > innocent people that they've been illegally spied > upon. > > However, those in a position to know say many > thousands of Americans have been surveilled, and > in almost all cases no connection to terrorism has > been found. > > Relying on hearsay? Relying on what's been reported in the newspapers of what these people have said. There was a major story in the NY Times last week. And even Gonzales has said he couldn't guarantee the program wouldn't spy on innocent Americans. >Have you heard the whole story? Do you have all the > facts? I don't believe there is anything more to the facts of what I stated: thousands of Americans have been surveilled, and in almost all cases no connection to terrorism has been found. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 2/9/06 11:15:01 P.M. Central Standard Time, > > shempmcgurk@ writes: > > > > > Obviously Kennedy shouldn't have approved the wiretaps > > > in the first place--at least morally; it was legal for > > > him to do so--and apparently he did so reluctantly. > > > > > > But how MDixon thinks the FBI's vastly worse behavior > > > reflects badly on *Teddy* Kennedy, who has been outspokenly > > > opposed to Bush's ILLEGAL wiretapping of many thousands of > > > Americans, is really hard to figure. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Absolutely incredible. > > > > > > Not so incredible once you know the way this woman thinks. > > > > She supports old racist and segregationists like Al Gore Sr. who > > voted against the Civil Rights Act because she'll defend Democrats > > uber alles. > > > > What I found incredible was that She can defend to the hilt or > > apologize for Robert Kennedy who was allowing the spying on of an > > American civil rights leader who did no harm to anybody but became > > the closest thing to an American saint. > > I explicitly said he should not have done it. > > Then I pointed out that he underwent a major > transformation in his character after his > brother's death. > > Do you deny either of those points? > > > Yet, bash Bush using his authority to protect American citizens > > from acts of terrorism like we saw on 911 and for years prior to > > that. > > You are going to croak from Kool-Aid poisoning. > > > I would just > > like Judy to tell me the name of one American citizen that has been > > spied on illegally. > > How can I do that? The administration certainly > isn't going to tell me, nor has it informed the > innocent people that they've been illegally spied > upon. > > However, those in a position to know say many > thousands of Americans have been surveilled, and > in almost all cases no connection to terrorism has > been found. > > > Perhaps Al Qaida needs a *bill of rights*. I > > really believe in my heart of hearts that America's most liberal > > are really pissed that terrorism > > hasn't hit home again big time just so they can blame it on Bush. > > If you really believe that, you're *deeply* disturbed. > > In any case, the conclusive rebuttal to the right- > wingers who claim the administration should be > allowed to spy on Americans is: > > President Hillary Rodham Clinton. > If her presidency will be anything like her husband's, I would support her 100%. Bill Clinton's presidency was characterized by the implementation of conservative principals we haven't seen since Reagan. Certainly, no one can say that the present Bush administration -- and Republican House and Senate! -- with its tax and spend $2.4 trillion deficit and intact Social Security program and still intact progressive income tax system is conservative...it isn't. So why not try another Clinton administration along with a Republican House and Senate, as was the case for 6 of 8 Bill Clinton years? Of course, it irks me that a woman whose only claim to fame is that she is a wife of a somebody and is a nobody in her own right can aspire to the presidency...especially when a MUCH more qualified and self-made woman like Condi Rice will be available... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > In a message dated 2/10/06 10:45:49 A.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > com writes: > > > > > The booing of Trent Lott was far from > > > exaggerated, I saw it and heard it and it wasn't just a few. It > > > was loud and rude. > > > > The sound was turned up on the clips to exaggerate it. > > Those who were actually *there* at the rally are very > > clear that it was just a few people. > > > > Nice try again Judy. I saw it live and it was shown on different > > stations and they were all equally loud. If one turned up and > > distorted the volume to sound like more, then they all did it, > > which is a little too much for me to believe. > > Oh, please. Of course they all did it, just as they > all did it with the "Dean scream," simply because it > makes a better story. Fox News has been showing a clip a black preacher speaking at the service with the sound edited out and then commenting on how no-one applauded the guy. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: EFF gives a big thumbs-down to Google Desktop feature
TurquoiseB wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>TurquoiseB wrote: >> >> >> >>>For those of you concerned about privacy issues, here's >>>an interesting report from the Electronic Frontier >>>Foundation on the new "Search Across Computers" feature >>>of Google Desktop. It definitely sounds like something >>>you'd want to avoid. >>> >>>http://www.eff.org/news/archives/2006_02.php#004400 >>> >>> >>And as long as they wan to scan our e-mail, blogs & websites >>for "our own protection?" Give them something good to read! >>Let's overload their systems. >>Read how: >>http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=290 >> >> > >Ironically enough, the website at this link attempted >to plant two spyware tracking cookies on my machine. > >You'd think that the people who rant about this stuff >would've done the homework on their own ISPs. > > This reason that I do most all this stuff on Linux box. ;-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/10/06 10:45:49 A.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Who booed Clinton when he came to Ronald Reagan's funeral where > > he and wife coped a few *z's* on the front row? > > Have some more Kool-Aid. Boy, they really have you > going. > > You said republicans would have done the same. I gave you the > closest example of Clinton attending a funeral for a republican For *Ronald Reagan*. Not close enough, sorry. and no such thing ever > occurred. He was treated with dignity and respect and nobody took political pot > shots at him. Clearly , well mannered people know how to conduct themselves at > a funeral or memorial and come together in peace to honor the fallen person > regardless of their political positions. And then, some just don't get it. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/10/06 10:45:49 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > com writes: > > > The booing of Trent Lott was far from > > exaggerated, I saw it and heard it and it wasn't just a few. It > > was loud and rude. > > The sound was turned up on the clips to exaggerate it. > Those who were actually *there* at the rally are very > clear that it was just a few people. > > Nice try again Judy. I saw it live and it was shown on different > stations and they were all equally loud. If one turned up and > distorted the volume to sound like more, then they all did it, > which is a little too much for me to believe. Oh, please. Of course they all did it, just as they all did it with the "Dean scream," simply because it makes a better story. I guess all the > sound techs for all the major stations could have been epublicans, part of the right wing conspiracy, who all conspired to turn up > and distort the booing to make it sound really bad. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/10/06 10:45:49 A.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Right. As you noted, it was right before the > > election. Wellstone had been running for reelection, > > you see. Wellstone was an exceptionally popular > > crusading senator in Minnesota and among progressives. > > "We will win" was an expression of hope that his > > legacy would be carried on.Such expressions are > > quite common at funerals. > > Oh really? Maybe you can fill us in on some of these other > funerals where the eulogizers and attendees all break out in > chanting and spewing hatred and venom towards their political foes. I don't believe that was the kind of service I said was very common, actually. But then your description doesn't fit the Wellstone service either. What "hatred and venom towards their political foes" was "spewed"? >From what I read and saw, the politically oriented portion of the service (about 20 minutes out of several hours, BTW) was pro-liberal, not anti-conservative. > Since it's so common I'm sure you can tell > us about 2 or 3 of them you personally witnessed. Obviously services for popular politicians tragically killed right before an election don't happen very often. Services for politicians and activists who die in other contexts, however, in which speakers talk about the deceased's goals and express the hope that those goals will continue to be pursued are, as I noted, very common. In fact, it would be *unusual* if they did not. Abby Hoffman or Bobby Seal > maybe? > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: EFF gives a big thumbs-down to Google Desktop feature
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > TurquoiseB wrote: > > >For those of you concerned about privacy issues, here's > >an interesting report from the Electronic Frontier > >Foundation on the new "Search Across Computers" feature > >of Google Desktop. It definitely sounds like something > >you'd want to avoid. > > > >http://www.eff.org/news/archives/2006_02.php#004400 > > And as long as they wan to scan our e-mail, blogs & websites > for "our own protection?" Give them something good to read! > Let's overload their systems. > Read how: > http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=290 Ironically enough, the website at this link attempted to plant two spyware tracking cookies on my machine. You'd think that the people who rant about this stuff would've done the homework on their own ISPs. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Photos of Brahmastan/ Girish Varma
on 2/10/06 1:23 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> This web site is a delightful photo story of the celebration and trip to >> India for January 12th, put together by a Russian Purusha. There is >> running English translation >> >> http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/ >> > The photos were great. But who is Girish Varma, exactly? > What does he do in the TMO? His picture is hung on the wall in the background > of a few > photos, and his picture is the same size as and right next to that of > Maharishi. He is Maharishi's nephew, and AFAIK, he's the head cheese over there. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] EFF gives a big thumbs-down to Google Desktop feature
TurquoiseB wrote: >For those of you concerned about privacy issues, here's >an interesting report from the Electronic Frontier >Foundation on the new "Search Across Computers" feature >of Google Desktop. It definitely sounds like something >you'd want to avoid. > >http://www.eff.org/news/archives/2006_02.php#004400 > > > And as long as they wan to scan our e-mail, blogs & websites for “our own protection?” Give them something good to read! Let’s overload their systems. Read how: http://tvnewslies.org/blog/?p=290 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Photos of Brahmastan/ Girish Varma
--- wayback71 wrote: > > > > http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/ > > > who is Girish Varma, exactly? > What does he do in the TMO? His picture is > hung on the wall in the background of a few > photos, and his picture is the same size as > and right next to that of Maharishi. I noticed that, too. He looks like a sweet guy, but that photo suggests something else. I know it's not uncommon for high-level executives to aggrandize themselves, but a giant portrait of one's self on one's office wall smacks more of Saddam Hussein than Donald Trump. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] EFF gives a big thumbs-down to Google Desktop feature
For those of you concerned about privacy issues, here's an interesting report from the Electronic Frontier Foundation on the new "Search Across Computers" feature of Google Desktop. It definitely sounds like something you'd want to avoid. http://www.eff.org/news/archives/2006_02.php#004400 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Photos of Brahmastan/ Girish Varma
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This web site is a delightful photo story of the celebration and trip to > India for January 12th, put together by a Russian Purusha. There is > running English translation > > http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/ > The photos were great. But who is Girish Varma, exactly? What does he do in the TMO? His picture is hung on the wall in the background of a few photos, and his picture is the same size as and right next to that of Maharishi. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eggs-what Maharishi said (for those who care)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On my TTC, back in early '71, in a big discussion about diet, prompted > as I recall, by Andy Kaufman, who relentlessly pursued this topic with > M, M said, about eggs: > > "One egg in a lifetime is too many." I found huge benefits from the specific advice of Brahman Tom (T), "go suck eggs". Realized Hiranyagarbha in its fullness. Then I moved on to move advanced teachings of Brahman Tom (P) "Eat Shit". I tried that and quickly realized Brahman in all things (its the only way you can choke it down.) Go Brahman Toms! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eggs-what Maharishi said (for those who care)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On my TTC, back in early '71, in a big discussion about diet, prompted > as I recall, by Andy Kaufman, who relentlessly pursued this topic with > M, M said, about eggs: > > "One egg in a lifetime is too many." What physiologically, chemically nutritionally, even spiritually, is wrong with eggs? I didn't eat them until a few years ago. I find one or so a day quite digestible and an excellent "filler" source of amino acids not so rich in more veg diet. No bad effect on memory (that I can remember :) ). Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Eggs-what Maharishi said (for those who care)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "anonyff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On my TTC, back in early '71, in a big discussion about diet, prompted > as I recall, by Andy Kaufman, who relentlessly pursued this topic with > M, M said, about eggs: > > "One egg in a lifetime is too many." Many / most of us took bag lunches so we could stay in our rooms and round all day. Food service was handled by the local spanish hotel staff. They always included a hard-boiled egg in the bag. At the elevators in the Karina (sp?) was a daily growing huge pyramid of eggs. Despite the plea of "no eggs" in our broken spanish. (Since in spanish, as I understand, there is only a suble difference in the word for eggs "wavos" phonetic spelling, and the word for testicles. The kitchen staff probably thought we were saying "No balls!" Which I am sure they thought appropriate for guys staying in their rooms all day long.) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FW: rick correction on Purusha new property in NC its Black Mountain NOT hil
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The location is 15 miles directly east of Asheville NC. no info on the > acres as yet. That's miles NOT minutes east. Are they going to change the name to BrightMountain (al la raja john bright aka john black) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If your point is that poverty in America is very different from poverty in, say, > Bangladesh, of course that is true. It's obvious. Poverty is a relative concept. Yes and no. There is an "absolute" level of poverty that was the point of the original remarks -- characterized by severe lack of food, shleter, clothing and transportation, and of course higher level "necessities" -- healthcare, education, etc. This absolute level of poverty has been almost eliminated in modern countries. That is a great achievement given that it has been a hallmark of mankind "forever". > if > you don't have the things that the majority of people in your society have, and > therefore cannot participate fully in that society, you are poor. So your view leads to a conclusion that there will always be poor, there will always be a lowest 10-20% in the socio-economic strata. Several interesting points come from this view: 1) It would imply those leading a spiritual and/or ecological ultra-low consumption lifestyle are "impoverished" -- even though its possible that such persons are the happiest people on earth. 2) The contemporary poor in any age may have access to goods and sevices unavailable to and even undreamed of by the richest 100 or even 50 years earlier. Current poor may not have access to all available modern medications. (Though most/many in US are). Yet 50 years ago, even the richest had no access to such drugs, at any price. And most poor have internet access. To me, the internet is a dream come true of many lives -- instant access to much -- growing to most --knowledge. 100 years ago, I would have paid a $millon for such, but even at that price, it was not available. > You ask about deprivations. Lack of health insurance, for one, which means > that people see doctors less often than they should do and need to do, and so > lack preventive care. Inability to pay for needed medications is another > deprivation. Choosing between food and medication is another. A choice that was not even available to the richest strata 50 years ago. 100-200 years ago, it would be great fortune for the (average in) richest strata to live as long as the average poor person today. >I'm sure there > are many more. It's called "going without," and the poor quietly learn to do this, but that doesn't mean they are not poor. Going without that which was only recently unavailable to all a few years ago. I bet you would crave to live today the "poor" lifestyle of 50 years from now. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] FW: [nhnenews] 'Buddha Boy' Update 5
NHNE News List Current Members: 1409 Subscribe/unsubscribe/archive info at the bottom of this message. BUDDHA BOY HAS NATION GUESSING: HOLY OR HOAX? By Connie Levett The Age February 11, 2006 http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/buddha-boy-has-nation-guessing-holy-or-h oax/2006/02/10/1139542406197.html IN SOME ways, Ram Bahadur Bomjan is a typical teenager: he loves his cricket, he sits with shoulders slumped, hair falling into his eyes, uninterested in the world. In other ways, he is definitely not. For the past nine months, the 15-year-old has sat, meditating at the base of a peepal tree in Nepal's Bara District, without food, water, sleep or the need to use the toilet. If that was not remarkable enough, on January 19, he spontaneously combusted, burning off the clothes he has worn for nine months but leaving no scars. Lest there be doubters, his followers caught that combustion on video and plan to present the footage, seen by The Age, at a news conference in Kathmandu, soon. The Buddha Boy, as he is known in Nepal, is a source of equal scepticism and reverence. To the doubters, it is an elaborate scam, which has drawn thousands of pilgrims, domestic and international, to a dirt poor area of Nepal's terrai region. To the pilgrims and merchants in the food bazaar that have sprung up to cater to them, there is no questioning the boy's legitimacy. He is the reincarnation of the Lord Buddha, despite the boy's own denials. Last November, he briefly emerged from his meditation to announce: "Tell people not to call me the Buddha, I do not have the Buddha's energy, I am only at tapaswi level." A tapaswi is a sage who practises austerities. To find the Buddha Boy's forest shrine, you travel 250 kilometres south of Kathmandu. The final kilometre of the pilgrimage is on foot, to prevent traffic disturbing the boy's meditative state. At the site, a series of fenced alleys loop through the forest, directing pilgrims in a one-way stream past the open front of the peepal tree where the boy, with distinctive sloping shoulders, sits slumped inside. Pilgrims are kept at 30 metres distance as they walk past the donation boxes stuffed full of Nepalese rupees. "We believe him, he has been meditating without food for the last six or seven months, (and) we cannot live for even one day without food," said Shesh Raj Lamichhane, 30, a member of the bazaar management committee. "Many people are staying through the night and nobody has seen him eating." At night the forest site is dark and only his supporters stand guard. Mr Lamichhane said on the most holy day of Dashain festival last year, there were 4800 vehicles in a single day. Those who grew up with Ram are surprised at his sudden fame. Prem Lama, his boyhood friend, said he had no sense during his childhood that Ram would be special. Prem is the only one who goes within five metres of the tapaswi and whom he very occasionally communicates through. "Whenever we talk, it's a one-way conversation. He doesn't ask questions," said Prem. Outside his own village, many are doubters. However, Upendra Lamichhane, a local reporter for the leading Nepalese paper Kantipur who has visited the site 10 times, believes the villagers are "too innocent" to pull off such a hoax. The local district administration, concerned about a fraud and whispers that the boy was in fact a statue or a corpse, sent in a medical team from nearby Kalaiya hospital. His colleagues went two months ago to investigate but were not allowed within five metres. The last message from the tapaswi, after he spontaneously combusted, was addressed to those who doubt him, saying the fire showed the reality of his power and he would use it another three times during his meditation. However, the fire has only raised new doubts. He had reportedly been sparking over several days before the fire. On January 19, at 8.30 in the evening, with 59 witnesses, fire erupted from his chest. Rasham K.C., the shrine's photographer happened to be sitting close by and ran to record it. The video is unlikely to convince the doubters and raises new questions. If the fire is a fraud then the boy himself and many of the "innocent" villagers are implicated in an increasingly elaborate hoax. -- PREVIOUS NHNE NEWS LIST ARTICLES: 'BUDDHA BOY' UPDATE 4 (1/27/2006): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nhnenews/message/10745 'BUDDHA BOY' UPDATE 3 (12/5/2006): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nhnenews/message/10493 MORE ON 'BUDDHA BOY' INVESTIGATION (12/02/2005): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nhnenews/message/10478 NEPAL TO PROBE MYSTERY 'BUDDHA BOY' (11/28/2005): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nhnenews/message/10439 PILGRIMS FLOCK TO SEE RAM BOMJON, THE 'BUDDHA BOY' (11/21/2005): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nhnenews/message/10393 NHNE News List: To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To review current posts: http://groups.yahoo
Re: [FairfieldLife] Eggs-what Maharishi said (for those who care)
In a message dated 2/10/06 12:12:49 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On my TTC, back in early '71, in a big discussion about diet, promptedas I recall, by Andy Kaufman, who relentlessly pursued this topic withM, M said, about eggs:"One egg in a lifetime is too many." So can you imagine all the life times of purification we need for all those eggs, bacon, ham, sausage hamburgers, steaks we had before giving up meat? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Insults to the Mahatma, ignored by India
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[FairfieldLife] Eggs-what Maharishi said (for those who care)
On my TTC, back in early '71, in a big discussion about diet, prompted as I recall, by Andy Kaufman, who relentlessly pursued this topic with M, M said, about eggs: "One egg in a lifetime is too many." Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > The fascinating thing, for an open-minded TMer, is > > to watch the series and think about how Maharishi's > > language has shifted over the years into the realm > > of scare tactics. He still talks about Sat Yuga > > and a better world, but his fund-raising efforts > > these days are more often than not tied to pronoun- > > cements of impending doom if people don't send in > > their checks. > > > > Maharishi's language these days seems to be slightly subtler and more > elitist version of Oral Roberts fund raising techniques. Very > disappointing, and quite an illusion shatterer. > > JohnY > I remember someone asking him a long time ago how he would accomplish his goal of enlightening the world, and he said something like, "I will reproduce myself". And That is only possible if he first destroys any attachments to him. Down the path, down the path, down the path...cliff edge... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
Honor & Civility, RIP To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] FW: rick correction on Purusha new property in NC its Black Mountain NOT hill
Title: FW: rick correction on Purusha new property in NC its Black Mountain NOT hill The location is 15 miles directly east of Asheville NC. no info on the acres as yet. That's miles NOT minutes east. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Susan Seifert's Workshop
Hi, RIck, I've enclosed the article and ad from the FFweekly reader, about the workshop I'm giving next weekend in Fairfield (Feb. 17-18). The first session of the workshop is free, to be held Friday night, Feb 17, from 7:30-9:30 upstairs at Revelations. During the free evening, I'll be teaching a powerful method of letting go of resistance to success that I use with my coaching clients. My clients have had enormous benefits from just this one simple coaching tool. In fact, I've never had a client who learned this and did not see immediate benefit. It's my intention that everyone attending Friday night have this tool for themselves, very solidly, and leave knowing how to use it. It's my gift to the community and as I said, it's free. The seminar will continue all day Saturday. On Saturday I'll share the coaching methods I've used to help people uncover their deepest motivation, and let go of resistances, blocks, and hidden negative beliefs that block their happiness and success, and more. I expect it to be a fun day, with lots of laughter. The cost is $79. There is some type of work that I cannot do in a group, that must be done one on one. In particular I facilitate clients to eliminate beliefs, conditionings, and expectations that cause unwanted patterns. My clients have had extraordinary benefits from this work, often eliminating lifelong patterns in 2-3 sessions, and I want to make it available those here. So workshop attendees who sign up for a private appointment within a week of the workshop, I will apply the entire cost of the workshop to my normal fee of $97/session (my special rate for Fairfielders). So they will have an appointment for $18. My fees are considerably higher for those outside of Fairfield, and for business coaching. Thanks for spreading the word. I hope you and Irene can make it. All the best, Susan Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I will take a look. BTW, I didn't say 'the world' I said the lesser > evil in the middle east. Just like I don't think that the TMO's > motives are pure or presented clearly, US's aren't either but I don't > think they are anywhere near as conspiritoral as all the hard lefties > think they are. It's always amazed me that so many TB's and former > TB's are so hard left in for a dime in for a dollar, I guess. I > express a different point of view than is normally expressed here, and > all of a sudden Jim labels me an ignorant waking state Kool-Aid > drinker, sheesh. Actually Jim forgets that we share a whole background > of similar TM experience. Hi John, I meant no personal labeling, or libeling for that matter. My point with the Kool-Aid remark was that sometimes we adopt points of view without thinking them through, echoing more what we have been told (or, really, bombarded with...). As to the 'ignorant waking state' comment, that wasn't meant to label you either. I was just stating the justification [for war] from the minds of those making such a decision. Thanks for bringing this up though. No offense meant to you. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
In a message dated 2/10/06 10:58:00 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pluswhich, the notion that people should not say anythingpolitical at the funeral of a popular politician whohad been running for reelection when he was tragicallykilled is so downright *stupid* it's almost impossibleto imagine anybody actually thinking it made any sense. Speaking about the politics and what Paul Weldstone stood for is not what was objectionable. It was the political attacking the chanting the ranting and raving and the booing that normal people found objectionable. It was not a time of peace and reflection on his accomplishments. It turned into attack on his political opponents. No class, cheap,and despirate. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
In a message dated 2/10/06 10:54:21 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How can I do that? The administration certainlyisn't going to tell me, nor has it informed theinnocent people that they've been illegally spiedupon.However, those in a position to know say manythousands of Americans have been surveilled, andin almost all cases no connection to terrorism hasbeen found. Relying on hearsay? Have you heard the whole story? Do you have all the facts? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
In a message dated 2/10/06 10:45:49 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Who booed Clinton when he came to Ronald Reagan's funeral where he > and wife coped a few *z's* on the front row?Have some more Kool-Aid. Boy, they really have yougoing. You said republicans would have done the same. I gave you the closest example of Clinton attending a funeral for a republican and no such thing ever occurred. He was treated with dignity and respect and nobody took political pot shots at him. Clearly , well mannered people know how to conduct themselves at a funeral or memorial and come together in peace to honor the fallen person regardless of their political positions. And then, some just don't get it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Photos of Brahmastan of India
Very nice--thanks for sharing that.On Feb 10, 2006, at 11:11 AM, Rick Archer wrote: This web site is a delightful photo story of the celebration and trip to India for January 12th, put together by a Russian Purusha. There is running English translation http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!'SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
In a message dated 2/10/06 10:45:49 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > The booing of Trent Lott was far from > exaggerated, I saw it and heard it and it wasn't just a few. It> was loud and rude.The sound was turned up on the clips to exaggerate it.Those who were actually *there* at the rally are veryclear that it was just a few people. Nice try again Judy. I saw it live and it was shown on different stations and they were all equally loud. If one turned up and distorted the volume to sound like more, then they all did it, which is a little too much for me to believe. I guess all the sound techs for all the major stations could have been republicans, part of the right wing conspiracy, who all conspired to turn up and distort the booing to make it sound really bad. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
In a message dated 2/10/06 10:45:49 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Right. As you noted, it was right before the> election. Wellstone had been running for reelection,> you see. Wellstone was an exceptionally popular> crusading senator in Minnesota and among progressives.> "We will win" was an _expression_ of hope that his> legacy would be carried on. Such expressions are> quite common at funerals. Oh really? Maybe you can fill us in on some of these other funerals where the eulogizers and attendees all break out in chanting and spewing hatred and venom towards their political foes. Since it's so common I'm sure you can tell us about 2 or 3 of them you personally witnessed. Abby Hoffman or Bobby Seal maybe? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/9/06 11:31:33 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Yes, a lot of people actually *believed* the > extraordinary exaggerations and distortions > spread by the right wing about the funeral. > > Wrong Judy! They saw it for themselves on TV! It was played over and > over again. It was a total disgrace and was repugnant. As I said: The *commentary* on the funeral significantly exaggerated and distorted what actually went on. Plus which, the notion that people should not say anything political at the funeral of a popular politician who had been running for reelection when he was tragically killed is so downright *stupid* it's almost impossible to imagine anybody actually thinking it made any sense. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/9/06 11:15:01 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > Obviously Kennedy shouldn't have approved the wiretaps > > in the first place--at least morally; it was legal for > > him to do so--and apparently he did so reluctantly. > > > > But how MDixon thinks the FBI's vastly worse behavior > > reflects badly on *Teddy* Kennedy, who has been outspokenly > > opposed to Bush's ILLEGAL wiretapping of many thousands of > > Americans, is really hard to figure. > > > > > > > > > > Absolutely incredible. > > > Not so incredible once you know the way this woman thinks. > > She supports old racist and segregationists like Al Gore Sr. who > voted against the Civil Rights Act because she'll defend Democrats > uber alles. > > What I found incredible was that She can defend to the hilt or > apologize for Robert Kennedy who was allowing the spying on of an > American civil rights leader who did no harm to anybody but became > the closest thing to an American saint. I explicitly said he should not have done it. Then I pointed out that he underwent a major transformation in his character after his brother's death. Do you deny either of those points? > Yet, bash Bush using his authority to protect American citizens > from acts of terrorism like we saw on 911 and for years prior to > that. You are going to croak from Kool-Aid poisoning. > I would just > like Judy to tell me the name of one American citizen that has been > spied on illegally. How can I do that? The administration certainly isn't going to tell me, nor has it informed the innocent people that they've been illegally spied upon. However, those in a position to know say many thousands of Americans have been surveilled, and in almost all cases no connection to terrorism has been found. > Perhaps Al Qaida needs a *bill of rights*. I > really believe in my heart of hearts that America's most liberal > are really pissed that terrorism > hasn't hit home again big time just so they can blame it on Bush. If you really believe that, you're *deeply* disturbed. In any case, the conclusive rebuttal to the right- wingers who claim the administration should be allowed to spy on Americans is: President Hillary Rodham Clinton. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The fascinating thing, for an open-minded TMer, is > to watch the series and think about how Maharishi's > language has shifted over the years into the realm > of scare tactics. He still talks about Sat Yuga > and a better world, but his fund-raising efforts > these days are more often than not tied to pronoun- > cements of impending doom if people don't send in > their checks. > Maharishi's language these days seems to be slightly subtler and more elitist version of Oral Roberts fund raising techniques. Very disappointing, and quite an illusion shatterer. JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 2/9/06 11:14:35 P.M. Central Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Wellstone. > > > Remember the > > son getting up at the mic and chanting: We will win, We will win! > > Right. As you noted, it was right before the > election. Wellstone had been running for reelection, > you see. Wellstone was an exceptionally popular > crusading senator in Minnesota and among progressives. > "We will win" was an expression of hope that his > legacy would be carried on. Such expressions are > quite common at funerals. > > > And the > > booing of republicans that attended the funeral. Such Class! > > This was *wildly* exaggerated by the right wing. > There were only a few people who booed Trent Lott. > The right wing pretended it had been the whole > audience. > > I wonder how many would have booed had it been the > funeral of a wildly popular Republican senator who > had been tragically killed just before running for > reelection, and former president Clinton had walked > in. > > Right, nice try at justifying the chanting of a son and crowd for > political purposes at a Funeral/Pep Rally. That wasn't a justification; it *needed* no justification, as I've already pointed out (to no response from you). > The booing of Trent Lott was far from > exaggerated, I saw it and heard it and it wasn't just a few. It > was loud and rude. The sound was turned up on the clips to exaggerate it. Those who were actually *there* at the rally are very clear that it was just a few people. > Who booed Clinton when he came to Ronald Reagan's funeral where he > and wife coped a few *z's* on the front row? Have some more Kool-Aid. Boy, they really have you going. The only remark I heard about that was > from some comedian that commented late that it was probably the first time > they had slept together in years. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
In a message dated 2/9/06 11:31:33 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yes, a lot of people actually *believed* theextraordinary exaggerations and distortions spread by the right wing about the funeral. Wrong Judy! They saw it for themselves on TV! It was played over and over again. It was a total disgrace and was repugnant. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > wrote: > > > > The leadership of the USA consciously chose to kill to prempt > > greater killing in the future. Trying to accomplish the near > > impossible in the middle east, a functioning representative > > democracy. I think that this was seem as the 'least evil' > > solution to an intractable problem. As far as perpetuating > > violence: there was and is plenty to go around. The US goal > > is to diminish it. The Islamofascist goals are to topple > > major economies and political systems thru violence and > > terror. If you can't turn the killer into a peace lover, > > do you kill him or let him continue to kill? > > John, I usually appreciate your point of view here, > but if you honestly believe that the US goal is to > diminish violence in the world, you really owe it > to yourself to download and watch a three-hour BBC > series called "The Power of Nightmares." It is > available for download from: > > http://www.archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmares I will take a look. BTW, I didn't say 'the world' I said the lesser evil in the middle east. Just like I don't think that the TMO's motives are pure or presented clearly, US's aren't either but I don't think they are anywhere near as conspiritoral as all the hard lefties think they are. It's always amazed me that so many TB's and former TB's are so hard left in for a dime in for a dollar, I guess. I express a different point of view than is normally expressed here, and all of a sudden Jim labels me an ignorant waking state Kool-Aid drinker, sheesh. Actually Jim forgets that we share a whole background of similar TM experience. JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
In a message dated 2/9/06 11:15:01 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > Obviously Kennedy shouldn't have approved the wiretaps> in the first place--at least morally; it was legal for> him to do so--and apparently he did so reluctantly.> > But how MDixon thinks the FBI's vastly worse behavior> reflects badly on *Teddy* Kennedy, who has been outspokenly> opposed to Bush's ILLEGAL wiretapping of many thousands of> Americans, is really hard to figure.> > > > > Absolutely incredible.Not so incredible once you know the way this woman thinks.She supports old racist and segregationists like Al Gore Sr. who voted against the Civil Rights Act because she'll defend Democrats uber alles. What I found incredible was that She can defend to the hilt or apologize for Robert Kennedy who was allowing the spying on of an American civil rights leader who did no harm to anybody but became the closest thing to an American saint. Yet, bash Bush using his authority to protect American citizens from acts of terrorism like we saw on 911 and for years prior to that. I would just like Judy to tell me the name of one American citizen that has been spied on illegally. Perhaps Al Qaida needs a *bill of rights*. I really believe in my heart of hearts that America's most liberal are really pissed that terrorism hasn't hit home again big time just so they can blame it on Bush. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Some Purusha in Livingston Manor
This guy needs a quick course in grammar. Sal On Feb 10, 2006, at 10:21 AM, Rick Archer wrote: other news 27 Purusha have the now arrived in L/ manor NY they are ones would either could not go to Holland or India for one or a number of reasons. The say they do projects there I know not if all do so some medical reasons others family reasons etc. & should or must be in NA
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The only time I ever noticed the effect of eggs on > cognition was when I was in the philosophy major at > MIU. We had to read quite a bit of Plato or > Wittgenstein or whomever we where studying in that one > month course every night and if I had eggs or eggs > where in something I ate for dinner I could feel that > my mind could not hold its attention very well and > would "slide" off focus easily. Other philosophy > majors noticed this too. > That is interesting. Just curious, are you a vegetarian now? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 'Light in the Georgia Church/Exposed the Dark'
In a message dated 2/9/06 11:14:35 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wellstone.> Remember the > son getting up at the mic and chanting: We will win, We will win!Right. As you noted, it was right before theelection. Wellstone had been running for reelection,you see. Wellstone was an exceptionally popularcrusading senator in Minnesota and among progressives."We will win" was an _expression_ of hope that hislegacy would be carried on. Such expressions arequite common at funerals.> And the > booing of republicans that attended the funeral. Such Class!This was *wildly* exaggerated by the right wing.There were only a few people who booed Trent Lott.The right wing pretended it had been the wholeaudience.I wonder how many would have booed had it been thefuneral of a wildly popular Republican senator whohad been tragically killed just before running forreelection, and former president Clinton had walkedin. Right, nice try at justifying the chanting of a son and crowd for political purposes at a Funeral/Pep Rally.< The booing of Trent Lott was far from exaggerated, I saw it and heard it and it wasn't just a few. It was loud and rude. < Who booed Clinton when he came to Ronald Reagan's funeral where he and wife coped a few *z's* on the front row? The only remark I heard about that was from some comedian that commented late that it was probably the first time they had slept together in years. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are there many gods?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It was interesting to hear MMY say there's no effective > difference between having one god or many gods as > long as the many gods work together harmoniously. > "It's not a democracy," he said, which is kind of funny. > Yep- its a very interesting process to locate all 'external phenomena' within one's body, including the gods one is aware of. Then, using that orientation, democracy becomes a manifestation of sickness, a battle for dominant impulses within the body... Also an interesting process to become aware of the characteristics of God, then recognize them within; fierceness of Shiva, peacefulness of Vishnu, etc. Next step: recognize these same qualities to one degree or another in each of us, and bring *that* within. Eventually faces us with [another] incomprehensible paradox: how can all of *that* exist inside of just *this*? And yet it does... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Some Purusha in Livingston Manor
Title: Some Purusha in Livingston Manor From a friend: Thought U would like this & perhaps even pass on to others as well Rick. Best in all from Bill Leed in Buffalo. ... ... ... other news 27 Purusha have the now arrived in L/ manor NY they are ones would either could not go to Holland or India for one or a number of reasons. The say they do projects there I know not if all do so some medical reasons others family reasons etc. & should or must be in NA. I note L/M will for a time be Purusha HQ & they also intend to soon build there SV but may well return to NC & the Blackhill property just purchased there & some 10-15 minutes east of Ashville, NC To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- Begin Message --- This web site is a delightful photo story of the celebration and trip to India for January 12th, put together by a Russian Purusha. http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/ Bring words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with your Yahoo! Mail. --- End Message ---
[FairfieldLife] Photos of Brahmastan of India
Title: Photos of Brahmastan of India This web site is a delightful photo story of the celebration and trip to India for January 12th, put together by a Russian Purusha. There is running English translation http://www.maharishi.org.ua/india2006/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Write a letter for Local Control
Title: Write a letter for Local Control -- Forwarded Message From: JFAN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 06:14:23 -0800 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Write a letter for Local Control Dear JFAN supporter: We had a great turnout at last night's meeting! Each person wrote a letter asking state lawmakers to pass legislation for local control of hog confinements. If you couldn't attend the meeting, it's not too late to write a letter. Please take a minute to write your letter today! This is a numbers game, and every letter makes a difference. Here's how you can easily write your letter: 1. Write your own letter, even just one paragraph – You can download instructions at http://www.jfaniowa.org/letter-points.html or see them at the end of this email. You can see sample letters at the web addresses in #2 for ideas. Letters should be brief, cordial and heartfelt. (This is by far the more effective option.) OR 2. Use a form letter – If you don’t think you’ll find the time to write your own letter, download one of the three form letters at http://www.jfaniowa.org/JFAN-local-control-letter-1-Rural-New1.doc , http://www.jfaniowa.org/JFAN-local-control-letter-21.doc , or http://www.jfaniowa.org/JFAN-local-control-letter-31.doc . Print it out, sign it and also write your name and address at the bottom of the letter. 3. Return your completed letter to JFAN – You can mail it to JFAN at P.O. Box 811, Fairfield, IA 52556, or take it to one of the drop-off boxes at Everybody’s Whole Foods, Revelations, or EconoFoods. 4. Form letters are also at drop-off boxes – You can sign the letter with your name and address, and put it in the box. It would be great to add a personal note too. This is what JFAN will do: 1. JFAN will make copies of your letter for each of the lawmaker listed on the letter, and put them in addressed envelopes. 2. JFAN will personally deliver the letters to the lawmakers in Des Moines – Rather than send the letters individually, for maximum effect we will take them to Des Moines en masse where we will alert the press to the local control campaign and present the letters to the representatives. By delivering them all at once we should be able to get some good press coverage to further pressure the legislators. Time is of the essence – we need to present our letters before the end of February, so we’re asking for all letters to be returned by next Friday, February 17. Thanks for your participation! JFAN Board Protect Our Community. Stop Factory Farms with Local Control Jefferson County Farmers and Neighbors, Inc. P. O. Box 811 Fairfield, IA 52556 641-209-1600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.jfaniowa.org Tips on Letter Writing to Officials Pick a few of the talking points listed below or write your own. (Rewriting them in your own words helps.) Keep the letters respectful in tone. Being short and to the point also wins readership. (One page or less.) Writing the letter in your own hand (if legible) can be helpful. These are people hired to serve the public. It is in their best interest to listen to what you have to say, so be comfortable speaking your mind. The letter should be dated and addressed to: Representative Jack Drake – Chairman, House Agricultural Committee Senator Gene Fraise – Co-chairman, Senate Agricultural Committee Senator David Johnson – Co-chairman, Senate Agricultural Committee State Capitol Des Moines, IA 50319 RE: Local control of hog confinements (or whatever you want to say in the RE line) Dear Representative Drake and Senators Fraise and Johnson: Then after the body of the letter and after your signature and address: cc: Governor Tom Vilsack Representative John Whitaker Senator David Miller Jefferson County Board of Supervisors Local Control Bullet Points For Lobbying Letters This is my personal #1 legislative priority Hog confinements can have negative consequences to the community including: Reduced home values The destruction of natural resources through manure spills into local waterways and toxins released into the atmosphere. The inability to enjoy ones home and surroundings due to strong odors. The deleterious affect on individual health from exposure to air-born ammonia and hydrogen sulfide – these health effects are well known and scientifically documented Increased dust and road traffic in rural areas and cost of road repair Reduced tax base from lower home value assessments Lost population base from people leaving due to unwanted and unchecked nuisance smell and pollution Lost diversification and growth of economy due to undesirability of confinements Loss of tourism – no one wants to visit a polluted/smelly area Policy makers and regulators up in Des Moines do not know about local county needs and requirements in regard to confinement site issues, i.e. the location of community institutions, rura
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The only time I ever noticed the effect of eggs on > cognition was when I was in the philosophy major at > MIU. We had to read quite a bit of Plato or > Wittgenstein or whomever we where studying in that one > month course every night and if I had eggs or eggs > where in something I ate for dinner I could feel that > my mind could not hold its attention very well and > would "slide" off focus easily. Other philosophy > majors noticed this too. Spanish-speaking friends in New Mexico used to say that they felt horny and compelled to watch porn after eating a certain Mexican egg dish, oeuvos rauncheros. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are there many gods?
--- TurquoiseB wrote: > > I always liked Joseph Campbell's term for the > structure of the Hindu pantheon -- 'polypantheism.' > He defined it as, "Many gods, all of whom are the > boss." > > And it's true. "Who's in charge" depends entirely > on which scripture and which verse you happen to > be reading. They definitely could have benefitted > from an org chart to give to the seers to help them > keep things straight. :-) Hmm. The world's first flat org chart? As an aside for people interested in organization structure, Rudolf Steiner endorsed completely flat organizational structures. His view -- and the view of Waldorf schools now -- is that the enterprise summons more power when decisions arise from the larger group, rather then being decreed from on high. It's often a disconnect for parents who come to a Waldorf school from the corporate world. They wander around for months or years wondering who's in charge before realizing everyone is. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Faces?
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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
The only time I ever noticed the effect of eggs on cognition was when I was in the philosophy major at MIU. We had to read quite a bit of Plato or Wittgenstein or whomever we where studying in that one month course every night and if I had eggs or eggs where in something I ate for dinner I could feel that my mind could not hold its attention very well and would "slide" off focus easily. Other philosophy majors noticed this too. --- Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > My favorite quote about eggs is from Harold > Bloomfield, > > > > > the once-famous TM doc, who said, "If you > can't remember > > > > > what you had for breakfast, it was eggs." > > > > snip > > > +++ Interesting how people are picking on eggs. > > > I recall hearing that the hysteria > concerning eggs was the > > > result of a study sponsored by the cereal > institute- typical > > > big business bs. > > > I average about a dozen a week and don't > have amnesia. > > > > Actually, you eat *several* dozen a week; you just > > can't remember the rest of them. :-) > > > +++ You must be right- I don't remember buying them. > N. > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ~--> > Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and > poor with hope and healing > http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM > ~-> > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are there many gods?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Patrick Gillam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It was interesting to hear MMY say there's no effective > difference between having one god or many gods as > long as the many gods work together harmoniously. > "It's not a democracy," he said, which is kind of funny. > > Do the gods cooperate with one another in Hindu > mythology? In Norse and Greek myths, the gods don't > all get along. It would be interesting and perhaps an > advancement to have a pantheon work as one. I always liked Joseph Campbell's term for the structure of the Hindu pantheon -- 'polypantheism.' He defined it as, "Many gods, all of whom are the boss." And it's true. "Who's in charge" depends entirely on which scripture and which verse you happen to be reading. They definitely could have benefitted from an org chart to give to the seers to help them keep things straight. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Are there many gods?
--- bbrigante wrote: > > http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Jan/wnews_25jan2006_128.ram > > MMY answers at minute 34 Wow. It's been a while since I've seen Bevan or heard Maharishi. Kind of a blast from the past. Bevan looks fine except for the dark skin around his eyes. The rapid blinking suggested some problem there, perhaps. Dryness? Allergies? Simple tiredness? Maharishi sounded medicated himself. Cheerful and sharp, yes, but a bit slurred in the speech. It was interesting to hear MMY say there's no effective difference between having one god or many gods as long as the many gods work together harmoniously. "It's not a democracy," he said, which is kind of funny. Do the gods cooperate with one another in Hindu mythology? In Norse and Greek myths, the gods don't all get along. It would be interesting and perhaps an advancement to have a pantheon work as one. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" > wrote: > > > > > > My favorite quote about eggs is from Harold Bloomfield, > > > > the once-famous TM doc, who said, "If you can't remember > > > > what you had for breakfast, it was eggs." > > > snip > > +++ Interesting how people are picking on eggs. > > I recall hearing that the hysteria concerning eggs was the > > result of a study sponsored by the cereal institute- typical > > big business bs. > > I average about a dozen a week and don't have amnesia. > > Actually, you eat *several* dozen a week; you just > can't remember the rest of them. :-) > +++ You must be right- I don't remember buying them. N. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- bbrigante wrote: > > I never saw the head cook extinguish his cigarette > by any means other than throwing it in the > root beer tank In the case of A&W root beer, that might *help* the flavor. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Highest amplitude gamma synchrony ever reported
Paper to be discussed at Toward a Science of Consciousness 2006 April 4-8, Tucson Convention Center, Tucson, Arizona"In the Meditation session, Antoine Lutz and John Dunne will discuss their findings (e.g. their PNAS paper) on EEG in Tibetan monk meditators vs control meditators. They found in the Tibetans the highest amplitude gamma synchrony ever reported!"http://consciousness.arizona.edu/Tucson2006.htmComplete paper at:http://homepage.mac.com/vajranatha/FileSharing2.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
If your point is that poverty in America is very different from poverty in, say, Bangladesh, of course that is true. It's obvious. Poverty is a relative concept. if you don't have the things that the majority of people in your society have, and therefore cannot participate fully in that society, you are poor. That's an approximation of a standard definition, I think, if I remember my social science classes from about 15 million years ago. You ask about deprivations. Lack of health insurance, for one, which means that people see doctors less often than they should do and need to do, and so lack preventive care. Inability to pay for needed medications is another deprivation. Choosing between food and medication is another. I'm sure there are many more. It's called "going without," and the poor quietly learn to do this, but that doesn't mean they are not poor. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > Not really, > > > > ...then what is there to discuss? > > > > > >but I know that the way you define poverty is so far out of the > > mainstream that it has little meaning. > > > > > Well, at least I defined it. You won't and don't. > > > > > > I don't think a single social scientist or > > politician would agree with your premise that poverty has been > eliminated in > > this country. I also think that your thinking is callous and shows > indifference to > > the deprivations suffered by many in the US today. > > > What deprivations, specifically? > > > As for callousness and indifference I suggest it is you who shows > callousness to those in the world who truly suffer from genuine gut- > wrenching poverty who could benefit from implementing in their own > country the social/economic make-up of the country where poverty has > been eliminated. > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" wrote: > > > > > > > > Shemp, are you from Texas? > > > > > > > > > > > > feste37, do you have a definition of "poverty" that you'd like > to > > > share with us? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "feste37" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can't think of a suitable retort to this since I'm > still > > > reeling > > > > > > from your stated > > > > > > > belief that in the US, the poor have just as much access > to > > > health > > > > > > care as the > > > > > > > rich. Someone who believes that will believe anything, > so > > > it's not > > > > > > much use > > > > > > > talking to them about critical thinking. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Shemp should watch more Three Stooges movies (his heroes, > > > rightly > > > > > so), > > > > > > and less Fox News, which has clearly caused brain damage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't watch much news -- Fox or otherwise -- as I find it > > > depressing. > > > > > > > > > > But what's more depressing is people who can't think for > > > themselves. > > > > > Poverty -- real poverty -- has been eliminated in the USA. > This > > > is an > > > > > incredible success story and should be acknowledged. NOT to > do > > > so > > > > > does incredible damage to the real poor of the world because > if > > > those > > > > > of us living in the country where this success has taken > place > > > DENY > > > > > it, how can those that need to know of the solution (and > their > > > > > political leaders) possibly adopt this solution if we living > > > with the > > > > > solution say it isn't so? > > > > > > > > > > So, I know it's cool to be politically correct and all your > > > liberal > > > > > friends will keep you in their clique when you tow the party > > > line but > > > > > think a little of the damage you can do to the real poor of > the > > > world > > > > > before you take the stands that you do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > wrote: > > > The leadership of the USA consciously chose to kill to prempt > > greater > > > killing in the future. Trying to accomplish the near impossible in > > the > > > middle east, a functioning representative democracy. I think that > > this > > > was seem as the 'least evil' solution to an intractable problem. As > > > far as perpetuating violence: there was and is plenty to go around. > > > The US goal is to diminish it. The Islamofascist goals are to > > topple > > > major economies and political systems thru violence and terror. If > > you > > > can't turn the killer into a peace lover, do you kill him or let > > him > > > continue to kill? > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > Dude, drink the Kool-aid! > > > > This story that the US was always planning to foment democracy in > > the Middle East only surfaced after the Bush crowd was caught lying > > about the original justification for their mass killing; WMDs. > > > > Not only has the violent external imposition of democracy NEVER > > worked before, it's a truly pathetic substitution for coherent > > diplomacy, coupled with enforced economic sanctions. > > > > Without fail, every time the US has meddled underhandedly in the > > political affairs of another country, it has backfired on us. As it > > has now again. I just read the responses of Sens. McCain and Biden > > on the situation in Iraq. A complete failure. > > > > Your demonizing of the Islamic world is interesting- another piece > > of revisionist propaganda by the Bush machine. As I said earlier, > > when you cage people and poke sharp sticks at them, as we have done > > to Iraq, then when they lash out in anger, it is easy to use that as > > justification for your initial wrong actions. Police use this > > occasionally to justify killing someone. > > > > There are adherents in the Islamic world who are every bit as > > radical as the Christian fundamentalists. Ironically they are now > > finding fertile ground for violently forwarding their agenda- > > something that was not possible before we declared war on them, at > > least not in a unified way. > > > > Just as we are now using the violent response to our Sin as further > > justification to escalate our warring, so are the Islamic radicals > > using our warring as justification for their continued violent > > response against us. > > > > And I totally understand that what the US is doing militarily is > > seen as an intelligent response from the standpoint of the ignorance > > of waking state consciousness. Unfortunately, long term it will only > > culture further violence against the US, and is doomed to failure > > and further suffering. Very stupid policy. > > > > > Jim, > I just don't care to go down this road on FFL. Sorry I brought it up. > > JohnY > > I've been spitting out the Kool-Aid for years... > Possibly ignorant, and in the waking state consciousness... :-) > Unfathomable is the course of action -- BG. > Arjuna, stand up and fight! -- Lord Krishna > I respect that. It is no fun for me to discuss this either. Please consider it closed. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] III 43: a German view
43. Kâyâkâshayoh sambandha-samyamât laghu-tûla-samâpattesh châkâsha- gamanam Kâya = Körper; âkâshayoh = Raum, Äther; sambandha = Beziehung; samyamât = durch Übung von Samyama; laghu = leicht; tûla = Watte; samâpatteh = durch Verbindung; cha = und; âkâsha = Raum, Äther; gamanam = hineingehen, hindurchgehen Indem man Samyama auf die Verbindung zwischen Akasha und Körper und auf die Spannkraft leichter Gegenstände ausführt, erhält man die Fähigkeit, durch den Raum zu reisen. Hier ist die Astralreise beschrieben. Den ersten Teil, wie man den Körper verlassen kann, habe ich bereits erwähnt. Spannkraft leichter Gegenstände" gibt eine andere Technik an. Wir können uns konzentrieren auf Ge-genstände, die im Wind schweben. Dann bekommen wir auch die Fähigkeit, im Wind zu schweben und damit Astralreisen zu machen. Leichter, meine ich, ist die erste Methode. http://tinyurl.com/78tya Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > > My favorite quote about eggs is from Harold Bloomfield, > > > the once-famous TM doc, who said, "If you can't remember > > > what you had for breakfast, it was eggs." > > > > > > Then again, he was later called up on charges of drugging > > > his female patients and molesting them, so you may not > > > want to pay that much attention to his diet advice. :-) > > > HOw did that turn out, BTW? Was he convicted? > > http://tinyurl.com/dxgbf Too bad. He should have lost his license forever. As I said earlier, he was too busy being a celebrity to bother being a good doctor. He put one of my TM friends in the hospital by misprescribing drugs for her, and several others told similar horror stories of going to see him and coming away with their medical problems having been made *worse*, not better. The general rap in the L.A. area at the time was that you were probably better off seing a witch doctor than Harold Bloomfield. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > My favorite quote about eggs is from Harold Bloomfield, > > > the once-famous TM doc, who said, "If you can't remember > > > what you had for breakfast, it was eggs." > > snip > +++ Interesting how people are picking on eggs. > I recall hearing that the hysteria concerning eggs was the > result of a study sponsored by the cereal institute- typical > big business bs. > I average about a dozen a week and don't have amnesia. Actually, you eat *several* dozen a week; you just can't remember the rest of them. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kentucky? Nah, it's Canada!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The leadership of the USA consciously chose to kill to prempt > greater killing in the future. Trying to accomplish the near > impossible in the middle east, a functioning representative > democracy. I think that this was seem as the 'least evil' > solution to an intractable problem. As far as perpetuating > violence: there was and is plenty to go around. The US goal > is to diminish it. The Islamofascist goals are to topple > major economies and political systems thru violence and > terror. If you can't turn the killer into a peace lover, > do you kill him or let him continue to kill? John, I usually appreciate your point of view here, but if you honestly believe that the US goal is to diminish violence in the world, you really owe it to yourself to download and watch a three-hour BBC series called "The Power of Nightmares." It is available for download from: http://www.archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmares The authors of this series trace the roots of modern problems back to their source, and make a strong case for the stance of both the US Neocons and the Islamic fundamentalists as *perpetuating* violence in the world. It's part of a conscious, well-documented strategy on both sides. This is a *powerful* series, that leaves the viewer with very little doubt about the real motivations of those who stay in power by "selling nightmares." They do this because they have no positive dreams to sell. Watch the series -- all of it -- and then come back here and tell us if you still believe that America's intent is to diminish violence in the world. The fascinating thing, for an open-minded TMer, is to watch the series and think about how Maharishi's language has shifted over the years into the realm of scare tactics. He still talks about Sat Yuga and a better world, but his fund-raising efforts these days are more often than not tied to pronoun- cements of impending doom if people don't send in their checks. And for the *same* reasons as the Neocons and the Islamic radicals == they are selling a fundamentalist vision of a world in which *they* are in charge. That is the only world they can imagine that would suit them. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: How long was MMY at university?
> > > Yes, on our 6-month course he said, "One egg in a lifetime is > > > enough." > > > > My favorite quote about eggs is from Harold Bloomfield, > > the once-famous TM doc, who said, "If you can't remember > > what you had for breakfast, it was eggs." > > > > Then again, he was later called up on charges of drugging > > his female patients and molesting them, so you may not > > want to pay that much attention to his diet advice. :-) > > HOw did that turn out, BTW? Was he convicted? I'd heard that he was convicted and lost his license to practice medicine, but that was only hearsay, not anything I heard on the News. I'd moved away from L.A. by the time this all happened. I can't say that I was unhappy to hear he was out of the business. Bloomfield put a friend of mine in the hospital by misprescribing drugs for her. She went to see him as the "famous diet doctor," and he gave her some pills without checking her medical history that were completely inappropriate, and that had serious effects on her. The doctors who treated her considered suing Bloomfield for malpractice at that time, but wussed out and didn't. I'd say, in retrospect, that she was lucky he didn't slip her a ruffie and screw her, and that the world is lucky that he's no longer in the business. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Origins of mahaavaakyas?
Anyone know where mahaavaakyas like "tat tvam asi", "ahaM brahmaasmi", "ayam aatmaa brahma", "sarvaM khalvidaM brahma" are "taken" from? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
