Re: Best Friends Grazing Muzzle

2009-06-23 Thread MARY SERGEANT
This message is from: MARY SERGEANT mkserge...@gmail.com

Heather,

I recently purchased Best Friends grazing muzzles for both my Fjord mares.
Check the measurements on the website.  I thought I would need the large
horse size for my draft mare, but I measured and then ordered the regular
horse size for both.  I think the regular horse size is 26 in diameter and
8 deep.  One mare was 21.5 and one was 23 (measured firmly against their
heads).  The regular horse muzzles fit both fine.

Based on advice from the list, I introduced them both to the muzzles by
putting treats in first.  Being Fjords, they were both excited about that
and figured out immediately that they had to rest the muzzle on the ground
to get the treats.  Now they ask for the muzzle when they see it.

We're having a little more trouble with them eating the pasture grass.  It
is belly high right now.  They are working on a side to side technique to
get the top of the grass in the muzzle.  The few places where the grass is
short they've had an easier time.

So far they haven't tried to get it off...sweet Ingrid probably won't try;
Nellie probably will and may succeed.  They haven't had them on for any long
period of time yet.

Good luck
Mary in Colorado with Ingrid and Nellie
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Heather Baskey cavy_l...@yahoo.com wrote:

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 Hello All,

 For those who have this brand - which size did you choose?  I was looking
 at the oversize (for large headed breeds).

 Opinions, words of wisdom on grazing muzzles - most appreciated.


 Heather
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RE: Fjord Rescue Subject

2009-03-24 Thread Mary Sergeant
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This message is from: Robin Churchill rbc...@yahoo.com

There is a an organization in California that is sponsoring a low-cost
euthanasia clinic. They evaluate the horses and if they are suitable for
adoption, they are rescued and if not, they are euthanized for, I think,
$30. From what they said they are having far more requests than they though
they would. I think there may be info on it on TheHorse.com.

Robin

Is this the right rescue?  It looks like they do free euthanasia clinics.

http://www.norcalequinerescue.com/index.php


Mary with Ingrid and Nellie in Colorado
Where we have no rain or snow

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RE: foot problems

2009-02-19 Thread Mary Sergeant
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When my mare (Ingrid) was examined by the vet for her sore front feet, I
asked about Cushing's.  I am very familiar with it because there was a 32
year old mare in our barn that had Cushing's, and I had a Peruvian Paso
gelding with DSLD that I had to have euthanized last year.  The DSLD group
has a lot of information about Cushing's and IR.

My vet didn't think Cushing's was a factor because she had no other
symptoms. After the x-rays came back clean, the vet was actually kind of
stumped, but the treatment was the same for laminitis or sore feet...bute
and sneakers.

When I first got my Fjords, my farrier was really impressed with their feet,
both in the shape and strength of the hoof.  The x-rays confirmed that
Ingrid had great soles: thick and even.

My farrier also mentioned Sole Guard and had some with him to show me.  I
think it could be a viable option.  The Soft-Ride boots with the orthotic
inserts were great, but were starting to show wear.  The vet charged $160
per boot (including the orthotic).  On the Soft-Ride website, the charge is
$235 for 2 boots, including the orthotics.  Not cheap to keep your kid in
those expensive sneakers.  Also, it seems like Ingrid's feet would not
harden on their own as long as she was wearing the comfortable sneakers.

Thank you to everyone who posted, including Valarie who started this post.
It is nice to know you aren't the only one experiencing a problem, and all
of the suggestions are great.

Ingrid is fine right now, but a little miffed that healthy feet mean she has
to work again.  I think she thought she was retired.

Mary in Colorado
With funny Nellie and sweet Ingrid

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RE: knee and foot problems

2009-02-17 Thread Mary Sergeant
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I also had the same problem with my mare.  In late November, early December,
she became quite sore on both front feet.  She still liked to frolic in the
pasture, but in her stall and run she was tender and frequently weight
shifted on her front feet.  X-rays showed nothing negative, and her coffin
bones were in perfect alignment.  She did have a slight elevation in her
digital pulses.  The vet wasn't sure whether it was the beginning of
laminitis or just foot soreness.  She had no change in her feed.  Treatment
was a few days of bute and two weeks of sneakers (Easy-ride boots).  We
gradually weaned her out of the boots and she is fine now.

My main concern now is preventing a reoccurrence.  If anyone has experience
with a similar problem they can share, it would be much appreciated.

Mary in Colorado
With Nellie and Ingrid, who doesn't have sore feet anymore because she was
such a good girl and didn't try to take her sneakers off.  Nellie would have
ripped off the Velcro and walked right out of them!

P.S. At my age, I also have huge sympathy for the human lameness issue and
the ability for healing and better mobility.  Bravo!

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This message is from: brass-ring-f...@juno.com My poor Fjord is having a
bout of something that are making her front feet sore. The vet came today
and took xrays so maybe we'll know something
tomorrow. He is not sure if it is laminitis or just foot sore from the
frozen
ground. This is the 5th winter she has been through here and never a bit of
trouble before. She is the one who had a couple of abscesses this fall.

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RE: Things to do when you can't ride

2009-01-08 Thread Mary Sergeant
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We have used the turn away trick with all of our horses.  An owner taught
it to her gelding so he wouldn't intimidate my granddaughter after a riding
injury.

All of the horse at our barn understand how to ask for treats.  We swear
that while some learned from their owners, others learned from watching
other horses.

Our two Fjord mares, while relatively new to us, learned very quickly.  (Of
course, these food-driven Fjords will do anything for treats!)  One of them
has her own version, and kind of bows when she asks for a treat.  Even our
huge Percheron gently turns his head to the side when asking (well, begging)
for a treat.

It is great fun to see a line of horses all turning their heads to the side
as soon as they see anyone approach the treat bin.

Mary
With Ingrid and Nellie in Colorado where it is relatively warm today.

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Robin--
 
You can definitely use clicker training with Fjords, but as with
everything, 
you have to be thoughtful about what you teach because mine  will drive it 
into the ground to activate the human treat dispenser.  We  taught our
coming 
four year old Clyde to turn away from the treat to avoid  mugging.  Now,
most 
mornings, he will approach me, make eye contact, touch  me gently with his
big 
cow nose and start repeatedly swiveling his head more and  more vigorously 
until he is almost swinging his hip into me.  WHY isn't  this dispenser 
working?!  Actually endearing in a weird way...
 
My older guy, the cribber, is difficult to clicker train because after just

a couple of tasks/rewards he is scanning the horizon for a pillar or post to

crib upon.  That has been frustrating, but also fun to try to keep his  
attention focused for longer and longer.  I have clicked him from the
saddle to 
touch his nose to things that he fears, which has worked really  well.  When
he 
starts to stiffen up on a trail ride, I give him a touch  command and he
uses 
his left brain instead.  The only problem, again, is  that he tends to drive
it 
into the ground.  When we ride down our street,  he will now weave from 
mailbox to mailbox, touching each one with his nose and  then turning
expectantly 
with his camel lips outstretched.
 
Kris in NC
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RE: fjord eating wood

2008-09-27 Thread Mary Sergeant
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It is a relief to hear that my girls aren't the only ones up to tricks.

One of the mares loves to play in the watersticks her whole head in.
The heaters aren't hooked up yet; I'm hoping she will leave them alone.  We
keep gold fish in the water tank and we thought maybe she was trying to
catch the fish.  Maybe she's just being a Fjord, though.

Mary in Colorado

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I have a 5 year old gelding that is always getting into something.  He 
chews wooden fence posts at ground level until they are compromised and 
I have to replace them.  I have given him various branches, old fence 
posts and hang plastic containers for him to play with.  He ignores them 
all.  I bought him a ball and when he wouldn't play with it I put it in 
his water trough.  He loves water but wouldn't touch the ball in there.  
We had to put the water trough in the barn now because he destroyed 3 
tank heaters last year.  We had the kind that sat at the bottom of the 
tank and he would dunk his head all the way to the bottom and pull it 
out!  We are lucky he didn't get hurt.  If the tank (and it's a big one) 
is only half full he will drag it around and isn't happy unless its 
dumped.  Or, he stands in it.  We thought we fixed him this summer - we 
put the tank inside the barn with an opening for them to put their heads 
in to drink.  He must be getting bored with the pasture because 
yesterday he reached in and managed the dump the tank again! 

I don't know how to keep this guy busy.  I like the idea of  putting a 
large chunk of wood out there and putting molasses on it.  That might at 
least get him interested in bothering that kind of wood.  Or, maybe a 
water slide. . .

bonnie in WI

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Re: fjordhorse-digest V2008 #200

2008-09-26 Thread MARY SERGEANT
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Perhaps.  Although they transported very quietly, and never seem too upset
about anything.  But this could be their quiet way of adjusting.  I'm
checking out the nutrition angle, too.  They are demolishing their
mineralized salt block!

On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 6:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 In a message dated 9/25/08 9:45:22 PM,
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  I am new to the list...just bought two wonderful Fjord mares a month ago.
 
 
 
  Even though we work with them several times a week, they become bored
 during
  the day.  They are together in a large paddock with metal fencing which
 has
  a wooden beam across the top.
 
 
 
  According to the barn owners, they are becoming termites (cribbing on the
  wood).  We have tried numerous coatings but they are smarter than we are.
 
 

 do you think they are still possibly trying to adjust to the change in
 living
 quarters?

 laurie, and oz


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RE: wood chewing

2008-09-26 Thread Mary Sergeant
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I am looking into the nutritional aspect.  They are devouring their mineral
salt block!

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Gail is right about the wood, the chewing begins as the days get colder.
But I wonder if it is because their pasture goes down to nothing in
winter, not much to browse or amuse? But it could be minerals. My husband
will throw a log or two in the pasture in winter, sometimes branches.
This keeps them amused for days and has never given any problem.
I remember riding my Morgan and I asked him to step over a pretty
big log and he put his nose down to it. I thought he was scoping it out
to see how big a step to take, but  - nope - he started eating it!
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RE: keeping Fjords busy

2008-09-26 Thread Mary Sergeant
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Emily,

I am very interested in the nutritional aspect.  I will join that group.

I just lost a Peruvian Paso to DSLD, and the nutritional suggestions (low
sugar) are similar to Cushings.  We have a 32-year-old Appaloosa mare in our
barn that has Cushings.

Thanks for the suggestion.

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Subject: Re: keeping Fjords busy

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On Sep 25, 2008, at 7:38 PM, fjordhorse-digest wrote:

 If they are just munching on the wood (more likely),
 I think they are doing it because of some need that
 seems to appear at this time of year.  I saw my
 Fjords licking an old stump in the pasture, and then
 biting it.  They were clearly after minerals...and it
 always seems to happen as it gets colder.

 I would try joining the Equine Cushings Yahoo list
 and learn about hays and mineral supplementation and
 do that.
Of the horses, mostly nonFjords, and some Fjords, I have had over the  
last 20 years, the Fjords munch wood less than the others, so I am  
more inclined to think it is an individual desire due to this time  
of year (and also in the Spring I see it), and less about a Cushings/ 
nutritional need.  I've talked to a few vets about it, and while they  
and I may be quite wrong, they feel that it's just a change of  
seasons, want something different, I know let's chew on that!  kind  
of thing.  My local vet suggested putting pieces of (safe) wood in  
the paddocks to give them something other than fences to eat.  Alder,  
fir and madrona all are plentiful here, and we always have extra fire  
wood, and the horses enjoy it.  It's also more pleasant for the  
horses to eat things on the ground rather than in the head/neck up  
position.

As an aside, I was waiting for plain salt blocks to come in and some  
of my horses went without for a few weeks.  When I gave them their  
new blocks, they DEVOURED them, and of course drank double the normal  
water as a result.  I feel so bad that they didn't have salt for a  
couple weeks, but they've certainly gotten rid of their munching  
urges on the blocks.

Speaking of which those of you who feed loose salt, what do you  
put it in?  My horses all live out in paddocks with sheds, and the  
moisture almost all year in Western Washington would make loose salt  
a real mess in many containers.  Would love to hear what you do!

Thank you,
Emily

Emily Wigley
Fish Bowl Farm
Vashon Island, Washington
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RE: Keeping Fjords busy

2008-09-26 Thread Mary Sergeant
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I am happy to get all of these responses, and to know my Fjord girls are not
the only termites.  Our barn owner suggested maybe it goes back to their
history in the mountains of Norway, and an instinctive preparation for
winter.

We are looking at everyone's suggestions and are thankful for them all.

Mary in Colorado 
83 yesterday and 85 today (must be a fierce winter coming!)

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That's funny, because I was just going to post about the wood chewing and
then saw all the postings last night.

I remember last fall our mares at the time were chewing on everything wood!
This year, I have the hotwire around the fencing, so now they have take to
the stall doors that are wood. I've tried Cayenne pepper and they lick it!
We just had a bunch of tree limbs chipped so I went out yesterday and
grabbed a few buckets full of the chips and placed them over by the stalls
right next to the salt blocks (both white and mineral). 

I'm wondering if it has to do with this time of the year - them
wanting/needing something in the wood/preparing for winter? Something in
their DNA? The same horses never chew the rest of the year, just now, fall.
I'm going to try grabbing some more of the big limbs that are still out
there and trying Bonnie's idea of molasses.  

Corinne Logan 
Willows Edge Farm
Bothell, WA
(425) 402-6781
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RE: Keeping Fjords busy

2008-09-26 Thread Mary Sergeant
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That is a great story!  If we put up hotwire, we'll get out the video
camera.

We used to have a grade quarter horse mare that would listen to the electric
fence to see if it was turned on.  If yes, she backed away, if no, she put
her head through to eat the grass on the other side.

Mary
Colorado

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We had a QH that ate wood, including the cedar barn. We fixed that
by hotwiring the edges of the doors, frames and window sills. We just used a
staple gun to attach the wire. And an insulated gate handle to connect the
door, whether it was in the open or closed position. It worked great and was
incredible entertainment to watch him discover that his chewing posts were
electrified. He was a pistol of a smart horse that could open gates and it
took him three tries to decide that he should stop eating the barn. The
shock
sent him straight up in the air, all four off the ground at once, three
times
in a row! LOL
 
Cherrie
Kansas

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To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 10:22 AM

I remember last fall our mares at the time were chewing on everything wood!
This year, I have the hotwire around the fencing, so now they have take to
the stall doors that are wood. I've tried Cayenne pepper and they lick it!
We just had a bunch of tree limbs chipped so I went out yesterday and
grabbed a few buckets full of the chips and placed them over by the stalls
right next to the salt blocks (both white and mineral).

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Keeping Fjords busy

2008-09-24 Thread Mary Sergeant
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I am new to the list...just bought two wonderful Fjord mares a month ago.

 

Even though we work with them several times a week, they become bored during
the day.  They are together in a large paddock with metal fencing which has
a wooden beam across the top.

 

According to the barn owners, they are becoming termites (cribbing on the
wood).  We have tried numerous coatings but they are smarter than we are.

 

I wonder about toys that are safe to leave with them.  I saw the postings
for the play balls, and will probably get one for them, but am looking for
other toys that would be safe.

 

We love the girls and want them to have the best life possible, so any
suggestions are gratefully received.

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RE: Keeping Fjords buxy

2008-09-24 Thread Mary Sergeant
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Lisa,

Thanks.  I've had the hot wire idea from several people, and will probably
implement it.

I've been reminded they aren't truly cribbing, just munching, but it still
needs to stop.



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I don't think a play ball will help. The only thing that will keep them off
the fence is a hot wire. If they have already started cribbing they aren't
going to stop for toys -- just my opinion!
Lisa in the Black Hills of SD

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RE: Keeping Fjords busy

2008-09-24 Thread Mary Sergeant
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Thanks, Gail.

They do have a salt/mineral block, but I'm always interested in nutrition.  I 
just had to have my Peruvian Paso gelding put down because of DSLD, and my 
research on that subject has made me even more interested in equine nutrition.

And yes, I guess they are just munching, not cribbing.

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If they are actually cribbing, you will need a
cribbing collar.

If they are just munching on the wood (more likely),
I think they are doing it because of some need that
seems to appear at this time of year.  I saw my
Fjords licking an old stump in the pasture, and then
biting it.  They were clearly after minerals...and it
always seems to happen as it gets colder.

I would try joining the Equine Cushings Yahoo list
and learn about hays and mineral supplementation and
do that.  That might work.  Lots of work..but you
will learn a lot, and you will learn how to
supplement your horses for health much more cheaply
(and correctly) than if you buy supplements.

My opinion is that toys might make a small dent...but
not much.

Gail

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RE: Keeping Fjords busy

2008-09-24 Thread Mary Sergeant
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I like the tree stump idea!

We'll probably have to go to the electric tape.  There is an electrical
outlet right next to their paddock.

I also love the street sweeper brushes for scratching!  One of the mares
sticks her next into the narrow opening between the shed and the first post,
and scratches, and scratches and scratches. 

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A good strand of electric (hot) tape put up on the fence will keep  them  
from chewing it.   Fjords are constantly into everything,  so any toys are
good.  
 I also have old street sweeper brushes that  they like to scratch on.   
Lik-its are also good toys for them.   Anything that you can hide a treat in
and 
they have to work to get  at.I have a very large tree stump in one of my

fields  and I poured some molasses on it .   That kept them busy all  day!

 
 
 
Bonnie Morris
 
Western WA Cloudy and looking like rain



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RE: Keeping Fjords busy

2008-09-24 Thread Mary Sergeant
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I wish I'd known about the Aspen trees last year.  The barn owners cut down
a whole grove!l

I will look in to the flax seed.

Thanks for the information.

Mary in Castle Rock, Colorado
79 degrees today!

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 I have fed fresh ground flax seed and felt that it helped deter them from
Chewing wood.  Also, if you have access to aspen trees/logs, saplings, etc.
they love to chew on them.  I often cut some small aspen trees (which I have
a
lot of) and throw them in the corral.

Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, still no snow, about 50 degrees today.


 And yes, I guess they are just munching, not cribbing.


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