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This message is from: "Beaver Dam Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Everybody from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm -- I need to get off my soapbox for a bit re the DVD Evaluations, and tell you about what's happening at the farm. INTERNSHIP PROGRAM -- We're very pleased this year to have applications from quite a few American and Canadian girls. It makes our summers just that much more international to have a good mixture of European and North American interns. -- This year is shaping up very nicely. We have girls coming from Germany and Holland, and also have a girl coming from England this season. She'll be the first British girl we've had. -- Because of the fact that the girls come and go throughout the season, we still have places for a few more interns. Our minimum stay is 6 weeks, but I have to tell you that in all the years we've been offering the Internship Program, the girls who stay the longest get the most out of the program. -- It always takes them a certain period of time to settle in, and that can be two weeks, so they really need more time to make friends and to really understand the culture and people of Nova Scotia. -- So, for those of you who have daughters or granddaughters you think would be suitable, please have them email us. - In order to qualify for this program, the girls need a good level of riding and horsemanship. NEW! "HIP" - Horse Immersion Program - This program is for girls between 14 - 17 . . . girls whose horsemanship isn't yet at the level for the Internship Program. This is a learning program, and the cost is $650 U.S. per week, and it includes room, board, riding lessons, horsemanship lessons, plus all the horse activities. -- The girls stay in our home, in a nice bedroom with one other girl, and we always try to mix up the nationalities which allows the girls to make the most of the cultural exchange. --Along with riding and other horse activities, the days are filled with shared barn work, cooking, hiking, lawn games, and time at the beach. As so many of our guests say each summer . . . ."What a wonderful opportunity these girls have to be here at the farm?" NOVA SCOTIA RIDING VACATION - Beginner to Intermediate Level - Our teaching is based on dressage, and almost all our saddles are dressage saddles. Very small classes. One on one lessons if needed. -- For beginners, we start them out on the lungeline in the Round Pen. -- It's a great way to gain confidence. We have two sand rings, plus our grass driving dressage arena. Lessons take place in all three areas, plus on the trail. -- The vacation is four days and includes a gourmet lunch each day (at least one on the trail), a Wine & Cheese Welcome Party on Sunday night - A Wine & Cheese Beach Party with Horses, a gift certificate from Carol & Arthur to Gabrieu's Bistrot (#1 restaurant in Nova Scotia). -- Our program has always been based on our serious desire to teach riding and driving, along with an equal desire to give our guests a fun vacation they won't forget. NOVA SCOTIA DRIVING VACATIONS - Beginners & Beyond - a 4-DAY program packed full of instruction, fellowship, and fun. Those doing the Riding Vacation and those doing Driving Vacation are joined together for many social occasions, including the gourmet lunches on the deck overlooking the ocean. -- We're also all together for the two Wine & Cheese Parties -- At Hill House, and on the beach. -- The Driving Vacation is geared toward beginners, but we have sufficient staff and we're small enough so that drivers with experience can also benefit and enjoy themselves with our quality driving horses. -- As always, our goal is serious instruction coupled with lots of fun and laughs. CONSIGNMENT HORSE PROGRAM - We're looking for a few more extra nice horses to sell under our name in this year's Consignment Program. -- If you have such a horse that you need to sell, give us a call. - We only sell horses that are here at Beaver Dam Farm, and in our training program. -- People sometimes ask us to sell their horse while it remains on their property. This we can't do, and we don't see how anybody else could either. - The only way we can sell a horse is if we know the animal extremely well. That means working with him daily, and truly getting to know all his good, great, and not so great aspects. -- With this knowledge under our belt, we can honestly and enthusiastically talk about him to buyers. -- We're really concerned, for all three parties (the horse, the seller, and the buyer) that the match we make is as good as can be. -- Our consigning owners love their horses, and want them to go to a good and proper home. We respect this, and try our best -- try our darndest to make it happen. -- The fact that the consigned horses we sell are sold under the Beaver Dam Farm name means a lot to the buyers, and means everything to us. That's why we stress that we'll only take qualilty horses. FITNESS FOR
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This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi KAthy, Wouldn't it be Much MUCH less expensive to simply buy a good Fjord weanling or yearling rather than go through all the expense and trouble of doing an embryo transplant? of course it would be interesting to see how the temperment of the recipient mare, thoroougbred, or Thoroughbred/quarterhorse, would affect the baby fjord, who would be raised by this mare. Very interesting! Jean in rainy, foggy, gloomy Fairbanks, ALaska, with nothing better to do why are we getting all this rain, monsoons? > I Am seriously thinking of using my >thoroughbred/Qh and thoroughbred mares as recip mares for embryo >transplant - from a fjord of course. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: "ruth bushnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > We send our heartfelt support to our troops and their families. We do not > support the war... Peg > Anyone who pays their taxes does Peg, =))) like it or not, but I believe I understand what you're belatedly and unnecessarily inferring at this heated point in time... 'though in reality I can't imagine it could be said that there is actually anyone in the US in 'favor' of war; who would not have preferred the obvious alternative. We support our nation's leaders and pray for our troops also. God have Mercy on America and all countries involved.. But I imagine that individual political perceptions is something to be avoided on a general List that is made for Fjords. Ours seem to be blissfully oblivious to world affairs and antipathies... they are wistfully listening for the sound of green grass growing in the pastures. Sgh. Ruthie, nw mt
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peg - well, I couldn't see your face so I missed that "smirk" :) Linda
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This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Lots of luck Peg in the show. It takes a lot of effort to put that group together. Hope you are well rewarded for it all. Jean Jean Walters Gayle [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 To 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Send $20 Three Horses Press PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vivian, > I can now tell you that we are at least going straight on our stiff > side and > both are actually becoming more supple every day. What type of exercises are you doing to accomplish this? Congratulations on the new (and final) foal! I'm glad it was an uneventful foaling season for you. Steve Steve and Amy White Prairieholm Farm Waterloo, Nebraska
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This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Peg, There is one for sale in my local paper in SAnta Rosa CA. Want me to send you the phone # if it is still there? It appeared in the last day or so. >Well, time to finish ordering my new Bob Marshall treeless saddle. > >Bye, > >Peg Knutsen - Ellensburg, WA >http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/ > > > Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: "linda hickam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Julie really is a real treasure...keep her in our thoughts.. -- >From: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com >Subject: Various >Date: Fri, Feb 16, 2001, 6:52 PM > >This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Hi all - > >Here we sit with our occasional snow furies, and I keep thinking of Julie >Will, who is baking in South Africa's sun right now with her personal guide, >Cheryl Beillard. Please continue to send Julie your kindest and most >supportive thoughts as she continues her struggle with cancer. She is one of >the strongest women I have ever met, and I've met a bunch! And after [out >of?] Africa, she and Darryl will head for Norway. Wow! > >We've been tearing our hair out here trying to get our latest Herald ad put >together on Pagemaker and Photoshop, and then I think of Julie and I feel a >whole lot less hassled. Sort of puts the right perspective on life. > >Today I got to canter again in my lesson on His Majesty, er, that is, I mean >Erlend. I just want to go forever! He, on the other hand, just wants to go >as far as the next pretty girl with a fetching pastern. > >Sadie is not quite great, but certainly good, with child, and is also >getting into fine shape. Think filly, audience! Let's see, "Flotrella?" >"Flotrenna?" I hate the waiting part! > >How 'bout those Viking's horses! Sorry Steve, I can't seem to let go of >it. > >bye for now - > >Peg Knutsen - Ellensburg, WA >http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/ > > >
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Jon & Mary Ofjord wrote: > > I can only ask for mercy or duck quickly. > > Jon > > Just like the Vikings! > > Mark > Ugh! I'm doubled over and gasping for air on that one Mark. That was hitting below the belt. The forever faithful Viking fan, Steve Steve and Amy White Prairieholm Farm Waterloo, Nebraska
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This message is from: Mariposa Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jon & Mary Ofjord wrote: > I can only ask for mercy or duck quickly. > > Jon Just like the Vikings! Mark
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This message is from: Jon & Mary Ofjord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Oh, and Steve White, How 'bout them Vikings? > >You haven't been talking with the Ofjords now have you? I'll get them >for that. > Steve, Your powers of deduction are amazing! I was going to confess my sin to you at Galena, but now that you know, I guess I should get ready for retribution. I can only ask for mercy or duck quickly. Jon
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peg, > Oh, and Steve White, How 'bout them Vikings? [private joke, > guaranteed > to elicit a response, I hear] I can hardly wait. > You haven't been talking with the Ofjords now have you? I'll get them for that. The Viking motto: "Well, there's always next year." Steve Steve and Amy White Prairieholm Farm Waterloo, Nebraska
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This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 11:36 AM 2/7/01 -0800, you wrote: This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike - Yes, I confess that I am geographically challenged, among other challenges. However, I thought Julie told me that last year was the "V" year for Norway. All her foals were named with that letter. What do I know? I'm still new at all this. Give me a break, OK? Sheese! Sure what would you prefer arm or leg? ;-) Now don't go and miss my smiley up there! === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Knutsen Fjord Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi all - > > Another good use for hair is a "hair saddle." The > young woman who works with > my trainer is making one from all the shedding at > their place Evidently what you do is collect mass > amounts of horse hair, stuff > it in a burlap bag, and ride the bag all summer as > if it were a saddle. By > fall, it will be a saddle, perfectly fitted to you > and your horse. The hair > turns to felt. Haven't tried it myself, but it > sounds good. H. Sounds pretty SCRATCHY to me!! We used to have horsehair blankets to use in the wagon/sleigh in the winter(the only way to town in the winter when I was a small child was by horsedrawn wagon or sleigh). They were REALLY made of horsehair!! Warm, but VERY scratchy! Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
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This message is from: "Starfire Farm, LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> carol j makosky wrote: > He thinks all I need is a two horse one, > but little does he know I am going for something bigger to hold my cart too. > By > the way, I picked out my new truck 1st and then let him think that he gave the > final approval. You go girl! Beth -- Beth Beymer & Sandy North Starfire Farm, Berthoud CO http://www.starfirefarm.com
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This message is from: carol j makosky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Knutsen Fjord Farm wrote: > This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi all - > > Another good use for hair is a "hair saddle." The young woman who works with > my trainer is making one from all the shedding at their place You won't believe this, but I read about this in the book "My Friend Flicka" years and years and years ago. > > > On a different note, how do all you folks get away with this secret buying > of horses, houses, etc? Tell me your methods, and I may be able to join your > ranks! WELL You start out small. I started with an Explorer (one of those dangerous SUVs) Then I bought a truck for my daughter's 1st vehicle. Then I behaved myself for awhile and then went big time to buy my horse. Carole R. at BDF had a part in that crime. The best part was my husband had to put up a Menard's instant lawn building the week before deer hunting, when he had planned to be scouting. Then about a year later, I did the house. You should have seen the look on his face when he was sitting in the living room of this house that he thought the kids had rented and I told him we owned it. The secret is I ended up in life holding the purse strings on our finances. So, I do as I wish. Besides my other half is the worlds expert procrastinator, and I am not. Next is when I buy a horse trailer. He thinks all I need is a two horse one, but little does he know I am going for something bigger to hold my cart too. By the way, I picked out my new truck 1st and then let him think that he gave the final approval. -- "Built FJORD tough" Carol M. On Golden Pond Northern Wisconsin
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This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cynthia-- Sunday, January 28, 2001, you wrote: > Tank has been a solo horse since I bought him at 2 1/2. He doesn't > seem to mind. Tank is not really a solo horse, just a solo Fjord. He has always had no fewer than four and as many as twenty other horse to interact with. -- Steve McIlree -- Pferd & Skipper -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA People may talk of first love--but give me the flush, and triumph, and glorious sweat of a first ride. --George Borrow(1803-1881)
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This message is from: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Wesley and I have been trying to think up a suitable "bimboish" name > for the phantom. Anyone on the list have any good ideas? How about "Fanny"? or perhaps "Fanny Mae"? Lori A.
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This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Phantom name Minnie Rouse Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
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This message is from: "Starfire Farm, LLC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Wesley and I have been trying to think up a suitable "bimboish" name > for the phantom. Anyone on the list have any good ideas? ;-) My vet named his after his mother-in-lawcan't remember her name, tho. -- Beth Beymer & Sandy North Starfire Farm, Berthoud CO http://www.starfirefarm.com
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/19/00 2:16:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Definitely have to train Erlend to a dummy now that his favorite surrogate, Pepper, has left. Also have to put some thought into the appearance of the "dummy." One breeder told me that she has to caution people who wear a certain color around her stallion >> Peg, The first year I owned Marnix He attempted to mount the hood of our lawn tractor after deciding that it was the right shape. I was standing there holding him, talking to my daughter who was sitting on the seat of the tractor when I realized he was getting a little puffed up and starting to gently elavate his front end trying decide just how to approach this new phantom. Then in the winter I was standing in the barn next to my sleigh which was covered with an old cooler when he tried to mount the back of the sleigh from the side. I'm sure the aroma of the cooler was the guiding force behind his lust. Now he has his very own phantom and is very happy with "her". She is always exactly where he left her last, doesn't kick or move and is always receptive. We covered all the mares AI in 2000 and both Marnix and I are much happier with this arrangement. I don't even put a mare in the tease chute anymore as by the time he's been washed he knows the drill and was always going to the mount anyway and ignoring the mare in the chute, ususlly much to the mares dismay. The Colorado Mount is the best because I can collect all by myself. I attended a repro clinic in Middlebury VT several years ago. They even let us inseminate mares with water to practice. I found the whole thing incredibly interesting as it appealed to the latent scientist lurking within. Marnix's whole demeanor at shows last year was incredibly layed back because he knew his real true love was in the paddock at the back of the barn waiting for him. Wesley and I have been trying to think up a suitable "bimboish" name for the phantom. Anyone on the list have any good ideas? We are expecting 8 inches of snow tonight which is great because I need a Christmas card picture immediately and also some snow to cover the sheet ice covering all my pastures and paddocks. Both my littles are out of school so now the season has begun in earnest..Merry Christmas to AllVivian Creigh
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This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Steve I was wondering if you were still in charge of this thundering herd. Good luck in Libby. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle Barnes & Noble Book Stores
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] . > Did > Tordin get a big kiss, Steve? > You betcha! A big sloppy one right on the nose as well as some extra carrot treats. Thanks for the plug Steve. We had a blast. Amy and I are hooked on this CDE stuff now. I hope the horses are too. Have a good and safe trip to Libby. Take lots of pictures for us to see. Steve White Waterloo, NE
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This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Knutsen Fjord Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > When Bob Van Bon visited last year, he demonstrated, > at Anne Appleby's, a > different way to finish out the mane at the poll. > The mane was cut with no > notch or bridle path, but rather tapered down to > nothing where the bridle > bath would be. The bridle strap rests on the > beginning of the forelock. This is the way I cut our Fjords' manes. It was the way I saw the manes cut when we first had Fjords. It also eliminates having to guess how wide to make the bridle notch, plus they do not look like part of their mane is sticking up wrong when they don't have a halter or bridle on. The mane just "flows" right into the forelock. You let the forelock grown from behind the ears, instead of from between them. This gives you a bit more forelock, but that shouldn't be a problem. On those few Fjords that seem to have a "scrimpy" forlock which won't grow out it seems that the hair further back - behind the ears - grows better, and longer, than the hair right above their eyes. In the case of my husband's gelding, I think it's because he has a whorl right in the center of his forelock which makes the hair grow every which way. It always looks like he has a knot in the center of his forelock, which he does not. Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com
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This message is from: "Jean Gayle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> As long as you are gooing to the coast Peg you should also try our gooeyducks. Thats a clam you know. Jean Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of "The Colonel's Daughter" ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle -Original Message- From: Knutsen Fjord Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Thursday, July 08, 1999 5:17 AM Subject: Various >This message is from: "Knutsen Fjord Farm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Hi list - > >I've been enjoying the discussion about halters. Monday Betsy Billeter >and I are gooing to "the coast" [that's what they call Western >Washington over here] to shop for used tack and such. Sonny has
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle) >This message is from: Starfire Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >I also think that it is important keep in touch with what is current >within the European market. If looking at the US warmblood market is any >indication, there is future potential for a sales market for our horses >in Europe. Therefore, I think that it would be important to maintain >our European connection with the "experts" from Holland, Norway, etc. I quite agree, but my information re the demand for US warmbloods market in Europe is because of the use of our thoroughbreds in cross breeding to take the heaviness out of the big beasties. That was how my thoroughbred mare, at 15.2 hands won over ponderous ladies of the Holstein breed in front of three European judge/evaluators. Are we going to add thoroughbred blood to our fjörds or just have such great lineage Europeans will want them? Jean Gayle Jean Gayle --- A Subscriber at Techline
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This message is from: Mike May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 08:42 AM 11/28/98 -0700, you wrote: >This message is from: Starfire Farm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I understand that there is an >NFHR Versatility Award (the details were published in the Summer 1996 >Fjord Herald.) We need to make more of this. Perhaps one issue of the Yes there is a "Versatility Award" as well as an "Award of Excellence" I have been trying to get the info for each of them posted on the web site. Unfortunately all of the information isn't in an electronic format (yet). If any of you would like information on these programs the people to contact about them are: Excellence award - Karen Cabic - email - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Versatility Award - Becky Mayer - Check your roster for her phone number or email me privately. She doesn't have a listed email address yet. Mike
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Cynthia_Madden/OAA/UNO/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Question: Getting Fjords to cross water. Tank will follow another horse through water and cross the same puddle once he has been through it, but will not cross the next one he sees by himself! I'm afraid I was losing my temper with him yesterday and we got into fights. I lost. Now I need to recover my dignity. Give me some advice on getting them to cross water. First, be very aware of what you are teaching your horse. If you get mad and lose your temper, your horse is learning that, in the presence of puddles, you will get mad and punish him. He does not know that you are mad because he isn't crossing the puddle! Several good methods have been suggested already. I would suggest that you start with ground work with your horse, using the horsemanship method that suits you, whether it be Buck Brannaman (Ray Hunt, Tom Dorrance, etc.), Parelli, Linda Tellington Jones, whatever. You must be comfortable with the method enough not to send mixed messages to your horse. Then work on having your horse approach the puddle and reward every little try. This means that, if the horse simply shifts his weight towards the direction you want him to go, stop and reward him lavishly! You are working on establishing trust between you and your horse, which is something you need to reestablish after your last "lesson" with the puddle. You don't need to get across the puddle to win. Simply walking up to it without the horse worrying about it would be success enough for one day. You can continue on the next day. Listen to what your horse is telling you. Some of us read our Fjords' "stubborness" as obstinance. What the horse is really telling you is that he is very worried about the bottom of that puddle, and he doesn't, yet, trust you enough to believe that it's okay to walk into it. So your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to develop that trust. It's not just about crossing the water! A neighbor of mine, while on a trail ride, ignored his horse's worry about crossing a puddle. He forced her into the water and ended up spending half a day digging her out of a bog. She had gone in up to her belly. She was never the same, trusty, trail horse after that, and permanently injured her back. Horses have good, instinctive, reasons to mistrust any kind of footing. We need to respect that! Once you have gained your horse's trust from the ground, you can transfer it to the saddle, but be prepared to go through the same "baby steps" again, because it will change the picture for your horse. Let your horse tell you how far he can go for the day, don't push it! Then enjoy the rest of your ride, so everything ends on a happy note! This may take some time in the beginning, but will reap great time saving rewards in the years to come! From Beth, Sandy and the gang at Starfire Farm in Colorado. BDF Magnum, BDF John Arthur, Maerta and all of the non-Fjords. Happy Trails! P.S. - I've never had a potatoe come running when I called it!
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This message is from: Steve McIlree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tuesday, 26 May 98, Cynthia wrote: > Question: Getting Fjords to cross water. Tank will follow another horse > through water and cross the same puddle once he has been through it, but > will not cross the next one he sees by himself! What Cynthia fails to mention here, is that Tank may have been correct about crossing the "puddles". My Morgan Pferd and I were providing the example that there was nothing dangerous about crossing the puddle, (these are bodies of water up to thirty feet long by twenty wide), when we discovered a hole belly deep on a Morgan in the middle. Cynthia says Pferd stumbled, but she wasn't on his back to feel him drop into the hole. After that we provided a more cautious example for Tank, staying much closer to the edge of these horse-eating puddles. They certainly are deep enough to harbor a crocodile or two but we won't tell Tank. -- Steve McIlree & Cynthia Madden -- Pferd, Keyah, Skipper, Tank -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA Have you driven a Fjord, lately?
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This message is from: BKFJORDS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cinthia, Fjords and water-wow, they either like it or they DON'T. Anyway, after my recent mishap, we donned our barn boots and proceeded to go into the water and with some TTEAM (Linda Tellington Jones) work and convincing, they finially went in. Now they go in and stand, and even cross a creek. It is just mind over matter or water, in this case-in other words, its stupid that they act that way!! They will run all around in the mud and puddles, but ask them to be ridden or driven in it and its different. Have patience and good luck! Bernadine Karns
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This message is from: Northhorse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In a message dated 98-05-26 18:03:20 EDT, Cynthia_Madden/OAA/UNO/[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << I'm afraid I was losing my temper with him yesterday and we got into fights. I lost. Now I need to recover my dignity. Give me some advice on getting them to cross water. >> Did this with my Arab, 20 years ago. Got him used to crossing streams, waterfalls, and into the ocean in Malibu! It was a blast. Start off small. Create little puddles that he MUST cross to get to his feed. Lots of times they don't like to go in puddles if they can't see the bottom. It's a good self-preservation instinct. They don't know how deep the whole is. Do a LOT of groundwork on this, making more frequent puddles, larger ones, creating little streams in your yard (a pain, but it is effective). Praise each baby step, and someday you may cross large streams, etc. Good luck. Each horse is different, so this is only one approach, it may or may not work with your horse. Pamela
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This message is from: Marsha Jo Hannah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "Alison Barr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I find that geldings are much more placid than mares [...] I find > that they bond better with you than mares. Interesting---my experience has been exactly the opposite! My old Nansy mare is the one who whinneys a greeting when I go out to the barn, and the one who comes first when I call them back in from pasture. I've never seen any behaviors from her that I would consider hormone related. She's always there, steady and dependable---doing her job. Our two geldings, on the other hand, are always bickering. They take each others' fly masks off (often shredding them in the process), play-fighting. They bite big tufts of hair out of each other. Twice, Sleepy has actually bitten chunks out of Rom's ears! And, if another horse that we meet out on the trail looks crossways at Sleepy, he jumps out from under me---trying to avoid what he thinks is going to be an "attack". I suspect it's an individual thing. But, I know that a sample size of 3 doesn't give me very reliable statistics Marsha Jo HannahMurphy must have been a horseman-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] anything that can go wrong, will! 30 mi SSE of San Francisco, Calif. ---
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This message is from: "Alison Barr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I was hoping to get some praise of geldings from my last posting, but did > not get a rise out of anyone. Let's hear it for the geldings! I have to admit that it's nice not to have to worry about hormones. I find that geldings are much more placid than mares (I have no experience with stallions) but sometimes it's too bad thast you can't breed tham. My old pony is beyond work, and I wish I could have a foal of his, but he's a gelding. Other than that, I think that geldings are best. They usually keep their minds on work, and you don't have to think about breeding. also, in my experience, they are cheaper, even though they are about the same conformationally, because they can't be used for breeding. Lastly, I find that they bond better with you than mares. Both Fj and Sunny think they are puppies and belong with you 24 hours a day.
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This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Petty) I told her about the list last weekend at our PNFPG meeting. I do not know if she chose to get on the list. It would probably be best to gather the information you think should be in the Herald, format it, and send it to her. Philip Petty Lochsa Fjords Mica, WA -- > From: Julie Will <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: various > Date: Thursday, April 09, 1998 4:56 AM > > This message is from: Julie Will <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I am really enjoying the active discussions, and wish a lot of them could > be re-produced for the Herald! This is the kind of info that new Fjord > owners are longing for! Is Sally Webber on the list? Julie @ Old Hickory Farm >