Economy busting vacation
This message is from: Cynthia Madden cynthia.mad...@gmail.com This is an opportunity for my Fjord connections. I have been having a difficult time finding horse/dog/house sitters with the experience I want to keep an eye on my critter family. I am really wanting to go visit my sister for a week and take a week here and there to go somewhere else. So here's my idea. I'll trade the use of my 2 bedroom/2 bathroom house at the foot of the Organ Mountains in Las Cruces, New Mexico in return for care of three horses ,two dogs, and a few plants. Within easy day trips, mostly 1 to 2.5 hours, are White Sands National Monument White Sands Missile Range, the resort town Ruidoso, NM with Ruidoso Downs and Apache casinos, Silver City, NM (Taos before it became too expensive), and various interesting things to do and see between those destinations and around Las Cruces, home of New Mexico State University. You may even find some interesting things to do in El Paso. Unfortunately, Juarez is no longer recommended as a tourist destination. If you like Mexican food then this is your town. My house is at 4,700 ft. in the Chihuahuan Desert and if the days can be hot in July August, the nights are cool and pleasant. Almost no humidity. Last year, I rarely turned on my air conditioner or if so, only for the afternoon, as the fans in every room keep the house pretty comfortable. Tank would be available for driving and riding with BLM land a mere 1/2 block away. If you want to bring a horse or two or your dog(s), they could be accomodated. I am pretty flexible on times but June July are particularly busy at work and may not be best. Visit my web site to get some idea of High Mesa Fjords Giant/Mini Schnauzers. -- Cynthia Madden Las Cruces, NM personal: cynt...@carriagehorse.com NFHR: cynt...@nfhr.com http:/www.nfhr.com http://www.geocities.com/cmadden88011 People the world over have always been more impressed by the power of our example than by the example of our power. Bill Clinton, DNC 8/27/08 Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Long weekend vacation - long
This message is from: fjords [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi everyone, My friend, Penny Lane (yep - that's her real name!) and I spent a 4 day weekend at the Eden Valley Guest Ranch in central northern Washington a few miles from the Canadian border. It was fantastic! http://www.edenvalleyranch.net/index.html I took my mare, Reina, and Penny took her gelding, Jens. By the end of the weekend our pride in, and love of, our Fjords was intensified by our experiences on the trails. We rode with a couple of other people a few times and our Fjords were steady as a rock while a couple of the other horses had issues. We started out at about 4000 feet in altitude and went up from there. It was a test for our flat land Fjords who live at a 400 foot altitude. We had been riding and driving them so they were in pretty good shape but we still had to stop and let them blow after some of the climbs. The wildflowers were blooming and the wildlife was abundant. On one ride we came into a meadow and a doe was just standing up. We stopped, watched her and thought she might have a fawn by her hind legs. Out came the binoculars and digital camera! On closer inspection and after the doe moved a couple of feet forward we realized she had just given birth to twins! Both of the newborn fawns were trying to stand and kept falling back down. Finally one of them did stand and the other kept trying until it braced its' legs long enough to stay upright. We took a couple of pictures and left them so the doe could relax and care for her fawns. We continued riding on for a couple of hours - uphill most of the way. We saw some beautiful vistas. The forest smelled wonderful. A combination of fresh pine and cedar scents blended with the earthy odor of decaying matter. We came upon an old homestead. There was a cabin, a barn built into the side of the hill, a well that was granite lined (I'll bet that took a long time to make!) and of course an outhouse. It was fun exploring the site. A little further down the trail we chased up a hen turkey with probably a dozen or so poults. The poults were still really small but they flew into a tall pine tree! The hen ran into the woods and some of the poults also followed her. As we came around a bend further down the trail and headed back toward the cabins we came across the doe and her fawns again! They had made it about 1/2 mile from where we'd originally seen them. The two fawns ran over to our horses! No fear at all. The doe was panicking and running back and forth very near us. One of the other riders got off his horse and tried to shoo them away. Finally one headed off and the other followed soon thereafter. We took off in the opposite direction to get away before either of the fawns tried to follow us instead of staying with the doe. What an experience! We traversed streams, mud bogs, boulder and log strewn trails, meadows and went up and down forested hills all weekend long. It was really hard to leave on Sunday! If anyone is looking for a wonderful getaway I can highly recommend the Eden Valley Guest Ranch! Our cabin was nicely furnished and comfortable, the horses each had their own corral, the scenery was spectacular and the folks who own and work the ranch were all really nice people. I'm looking forward to going back! Taffy Mercer Kennewick, WA - Where we finished baling our 2nd cutting hay today!
Re Carol might need a vacation???? - Not to worry . . .
This message is from: Beaver Dam Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello from Carol Rivoire, Jaimie, and Kelly at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia In response to Pat's post . . . Hey Pat, You posted that a group friends was thinking of coming to Beaver Dam Farm to do one of our Nova Scotia Riding or Driving Vacations, and you commented. . . ~ ~ . . . . however, Carol might need a vacation for herself afterwards . . . if we did all do this . . . as a vacation with a bunch of horsewomen could get very relaxed and silly -- ~ ~ Not to worry, Pat! relaxed and silly is not a problem for us. In fact, it's encouraged. --That's EXACTLY what we do. In fact, each Monday during the orientation get-together, I tell everyone that the key words in the title of our program are -- RIDING/DRIVING and VACATION. -- We're very aware that people come to us not only to learn, but to have fun.--- We know relaxed and silly -- For the last 15 years, every summer for 16 weeks, we've taught horsepeople of various levels (or total beginners) how to ride and drive. Our program is all about friendship, connections, relaxation, fun, and learning. It's also all about introducing people to the unique lifestyle we enjoy in Nova Scotia. -- And, by the way, it doesn't get much more relaxed or pleasurable than life here in the Maritimes. Pat, we really got a kick out of your post, and it inspired us to create a new FEATURE OF THE WEEK with the focus on some of last season's horsewomen guests relaxed, having fun, and being a bit silly. -- Have a look and enjoy. http://www.beaverdamfarm.com/pages/fow/index.html Best Regards, Carol, Jaimie, Kelly Subject: Re:horse vacations This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] some of this group have been there before and it really does sound fun. Personally I would like to see Gjest, live and in person.and ride or drive on the beaches, like she shows in the pictureshowever Carol might need a vacation for herself, afterwards...if we did all do this.as a vacation with a bunch of horse women could get very relaxed and silly. is the issue number.
Re: Give the Gift of Antiicipation - A Vacation at Beaver Dam Farm
This message is from: Beaver Dam Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Everybody from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia -- There's an old saying that Anticipation is often better than ealization -- But not according to what our course with us was . . . MUCH BETTER than we ever expected. --- So, in this case, the realization is even better than the anticipation. In past years, many people have given Christmas gift certificates to parents, children, or grandchildren for a Nova Scotia Driving and/or Riding Vacation at Beaver Dam Farm. Often, they've done a vacation with us, and had so much fun, they want to share it with their families. This winter, when the winds are howing and the snow blowing, what could be nicer than anticipating a vacation in one of the most wondrous places in the world. A place with crisp, clear summer days -- Lots and lots of space -- Beaches with surprisingly warm water, and few people -- Gourmet restaurants -- Superb live theatre -- Great golf course -- A 350 acre farm with driving and riding arenas, miles of trails and wonderful views -- Experienced trainers and instructors -- A staff to Gjest (whoops, I mean guest) ratio of close to one to one. -- One of the most memorable and impressive aspects of a Nova Scotia vacation is meeting Nova Scotians. -- We always encourage our guests to go into town and into the shops and talk to the people. -- You'll find the atmosphere warm, friendly, and the people genuinely glad to meet you and interested in where you're from, and why you came to Nova Scotia. You can tell them you came to Antigonish to ride and drive horses, and then you'll really be in for a good conversation-- Everybody says hello. Nobody avoids eye contact. -- As Arthur and I always say, along with Petula Clark . . . . If you're feeling blue, just go DOWNTOWN. We keep our courses small so that our student/guests will be constantly supervised and instructred. We want you to learn, have a great time doing it, and to remain safe. -- You'll be amazed at how much you will learn in just four days at Beaver Dam Farm. And you'll be even more amazed at how much fun you have learning. Beaver Dam Farm is in a small Acadian village ten minutes from the university town of Antigonish, which is where you'll go for shopping, restaurants, theatre, and music. -- A beautiful Provincial Beach Park is 5 min. down the road, and visible from the farm. -- The scenery and touring is delightful in all directions. -- We're 45 min. from the Prince Edward Island ferry, and 30 min. from the Cape Breton Island causeway. -- The #1 restaurant in Nova Scotia is 10 min. from the farm. -- The golf is challenging, and there are hiking trails all around us, including on the farm. This year we'll welcome to Beaver Dam Farm, as we've done for 20 + years, international international interns. -- So far, interns have signed on from England, Germany, Holland, and Connecticut. Probably, the most important aspect of our program is that we maintain small groups, and try our darndest to personalize everybody's experience. -- Particularly when dealing with horses, it's necesssary to customize each lesson according to the wants and wishes, experience and anxieties of each student/guest. And that's what we do at Beaver Dam Farm. Our trainers/instructors are experienced riderers and drivers, and besides that -- They are Nova Scotians meaning they have a genuine interest in people and a genuine desire to give you the most enjoyable and satisfying vacation you've ever experienced. For more information about giving a gift certificate for a Nova Scotia Riding/Driving Vacation at Beaver Dam Farm, please call or email Carol, Jaimie, or Kelly. If you're interested in renting the Charming Cottage, please book as early as possible as it's filling fast. -- To book a Riding and/or Driving Vacation, deposits are $350 per person with the balance due 6 weeks before arrival. The first two weeks of our season, and the last two weeks are Low Season, and the rates are $100 less for the course. Same discount for the Charming Cottage. . To get a better idea of what our Nova Scotia Beginner Driving /Riding Vacations are all about, please check our website, and take the Virtual Tour. Best Regards, Carol Rivoire
Driving vacation and Fjord Calendar
This message is from: Carol Tacey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Fjord Friends, I just returned from a week driving my Fjord at Wildwood Stables in Arcadia National Park, Maine. What a great place to drive. The trails are beautiful and pristine. The carriage roads were built by John D. Rockefeller in1915 and cover over 11,000 acres of land. When we were not on the trails, you could find us out getting a Maine lobster dinner, too good. For more information on Wildwood Stables http://www.acadiamagic.com/WildwoodStables1.html Have you ordered your 2006 Fjord Calendar yet? www.painteasy.com/calendar.html This is the FIRST ever all Fjord calendar featuring Fjords from United States and Canada. Happy Driving, Carol Tacey Totem Farm West Kingston, RI [EMAIL PROTECTED] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat]
Norwegian Horse-Drawn Vehicles Carriage Driving Vacation, 2004
This message is from: Cheryl Beillard [EMAIL PROTECTED] HI DeeAnna . You're right, this is a great book! Olaf Nyby brought me a copy as a gift right after it came out and we have subsequently purchased several copies for friends and customers. It is worth every penny. Covers everything from the stone age through the Vikings to modern times. I visited the sleigh museum in Hedmark last summer and saw several of the vehicles featured in the book, first hand. For those of you who have a copy of the most recent Herald (mine hasn't arrived yet) .. this is one of the stops our the Carriage Driving Tour of Norway we are organizing, involving a 3 day clinic with Olaf .. and lots of chances to see some of these carriage still in use with us, this summer. We also have another, smaller book for sale, on our website, which features photographs of 40 Norwegian carriages, also with english translation/text. SO if anyone gets the book and develops a yen to go and see some of these wonderful old vehicles first hand, get in touch as there may be only 2-4 spaces left. For those of you who have enquired, I will have the details confirming exact cost, by the end of the month. Olaf is in New Zealand at the moment, and there are a few things we left to finalize, once we knew who might be coming and what their interests might be. But all indications are that it's a GO and it's going to be fun! : ) For more information, please contact me privately. Cheryl Beillard Wake-Robin Farm Fjords www.wakerobinfarm.ca [EMAIL PROTECTED] (613) 649-2437
Re: Nova Scotia Beginner Drive/Ride Vacation Fjord Horse Handbook
This message is from: Arthur Rivoire [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia -- Christmas is a coming . . . . - Just a reminder that an exciting Christmas gift for someone you care about a lot would be a 4-Day Driving Vacation at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia. -- Each year, many people ask us for gift certificates for our Driving Vacations, and we make up a nice packet that will thrill and delight the lucky recipients. Our Beginner Driving Vacations get to be more fun each year. -- They really do! Not just for the guests, but for all of us here as well. We spend the winters dreaming up new and better ways to do what we do. These changes keep all of us, including the horses, fresh and eager, and work well for the many guests who return year after year. Some of our Driving Vacation guests never want to leave Beaver Dam Farm. They're enchanted with the green pastures filled with beautiful Fjords. They love sitting on the Art Gallery terrace sipping a cool drink and enjoying the panorama view of green fields, horses, and the ocean. And when not driving or enjoying the fantastic gourmet buffet lunch, our guests often take advantage of the many hiking trails. Still others hang out at the barn, and beg to be allowed to do chores. -- That too, can be arranged! We offer a solid learning experience to Beginner Drivers with an emphasis on safety and doing things right. - We also offer Horsemanship Classes to children and adults. Each year we welcome more families with children and have adapted our program to fill these needs. -- Some of the youngsters do the Driving Vacation and compete with their parents and the other adult articipants. -- Other children would rather spend their time riding, and still others want to do both. All can be arranged. We have an extensive, well qualified staff, and our program is small enough so that we can design it around the special needs and wants of our guests. Beaver Dam Farm is in an ideal location on the Northumberland Strait of Nova Scotia where the days are sunny and clear, and the ocean is the warmest this side of the Carolinas. - Antigonish town, ten min. from the farm offers fabulous gourmet restaurants and very good professional theatre, plus some charming shops. -- There's kayaking, boating, fishing, golf, Gaelic music and dancing, spectacular scenery. We also offer ' The Charming Cottage ' right here on the farm and rented to people taking the Beginner Driving Vacation. -- The house sleeps 4, has 2 full baths, is open and spacious, well furnished, surrounded by gardens, very attractive, and filled with antiques and Maritime art. -- The 'Cottage' rents very early in the season. -- However, there are other nice accomodations close by the farm if you miss out on the Cottage. ~ COMMENTS FROM RECENT GUESTS - Best horse vacation we've ever been on . . . .It's been the most fun I've ever had with horses my entire life. . . . . .Best vacation in 35 years of marriage. . . . We can't believe how much we learned. I visited Antigonish . . We feasted on lobster and fish. Drove lovely Fjords over meadows and roads . . . To return is my dearest wish. - Carol Taylor, a 2003 Driving Vacation guest from Oregon Another nice gift would be THE FJORD HORSE HANDBOOK, by Carol Rivoire - 300 pages, 170 photos - Available from Beaver Dam Farm - $36.95 includes s h. VISA or check --- Lots of good information. This book has had excellent reviews from top horse people. . . .a wonderful compendium. . .imbued with a love, respect, and intimate knowledge of the ancient Norwegian Fjord. - Caroline Nesbitt, author of The Pony Breeder's Handbook . . . a most informative book on the Fjordhorse . . . insightful . . .reflects the profound experience and knowledge of the author . . - Heike Bean, Licensed by the FN of Germany, driving judge, trainer, instructor, clinician and co-author of the book - Carriage Driving - a Logical Approach through Dressage Training. Carol Riovire has written a love story . . . a delightful book. . . Brew up some tea, get comfortable, and enjoy this book. It's a treat. - Sheila Libby Alexander, ADS judge, clinician, professional librarian Arthur and I will be down in New England for the holidays and will mail book orders from there to be sure they arrive before Christmas. Kind Regards, and we hope to see some of you in Nova Scotia next summer. Carol Rivoire http://www.beaverdamfarm.com Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II R.R. 7 Pomquet, Nova Scotia B2G 2L4 Tel:(902) 386-2304 Fax:(902) 386-2149 Carole Rivoire, author of THE FJORDHORSE
vacation horses
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just thought I would try to answer the question about rental horses and fearful riders. I have not had the luck to go on any extended rides, but have been on lots of 1/2 day rides in a lot of different countries and states, Colorado, Hawaii, England, Bermuda, and Australia and others. I think it is always hard and nerve wracking to get on a strange horse, but I have not had one bad experience in all of our rides. These have been groups of just us, to about 10 people, and I always have lots of worries. What if I have to go to the bathroom? What if the horse is too much, too dull, and so on. Now that I have arthritic knees, I am worried about getting on too! Because I am a heavy person, they always give me the tallest horse they have. In Australia last winter it was a 16.3hh ex race horse! I asked it they had a nice large mounting block (most places have great ones) and the young girl said, Oh no, mate, we use a milk carton. Yikes I thought, but turns out the Australian milk cartons are twice as high as ours so it worked fine! I have found the horses to be if anything, more quiet than mine at home. And I am an intermediate rider, at best. The people running these things have seen it all, and are usually good humored and very knowledgeable. They will listen to your worries and do the best to get you the right horse. Then you go out on a nice scenic trail on a sure footed horse who has done it all before. I have seen canyons and pineapple fields and beaches and trees full of cockatoos. It is always great fun. Be sure you talk to the guides; they are always leading a life completely different than yours and are full of stories. Good luck, and have fun. Tell us about it when you get back. Valerie
Driving Vacation
This message is from: The Mercers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Everyone, We (my husband and I) got home Monday night from the most spectacular driving weekend with Brian and Ursula Jensen of Trinity Fjords! I just purchased my first Fjords and have never driven before so figured I better get some lessons. I can highly recommend the driving weekend experience. Excellent instruction, great food and of course wonderful hosts. We arrived Friday afternoon and Brian hitched up a team and initiated me by driving one of his practice CDE courses! I won't repeat a few of the words that came out of my mouth as we headed for a tree I just knew we'd hit but of course missed! It was wild! I had two lessons each day and of course we chatted in between times and over dinner. I learned s much! Saturday morning I started by doing ground driving, then progressed to a meadow brook cart. Saturday afternoon we reviewed the morning lessons and then Brian hitched up a team and I drove a 4 wheeled buggy (sorry, can't remember the name of it). There was so much to learn and I was really surprised at how quickly I got better (not driving so drunk!) throughout the day. We ended the lesson with a pleasure drive down the road. Sunday morning we started out with review and then Brian really put me though my paces. I had to drive around assorted cones doing circles and figure 8's and drive to certain flags and/or letters around the arena and do all sorts of maneuvers. I think that was the best thing that could have happened to me because by concentrating on all of the other things my hands and driving became more smooth and everything just seemed to click. Wow, what a feeling of accomplishment! Sunday afternoon after my final lesson Brian hooked up his team of 4 and we went for a pleasure drive down the road. Watching Brian work the lines with a team of 4 was impressive. I've attached a couple of pictures of the farm. Where we live if the land isn't irrigated it's sagebrush and desert. The mountains, and Trinity Valley that Jensen's farm is named for, were a beautiful change of scenery. We stayed in the cabin and could sit on the front porch and look out over the pastures, mountains and Fjords. It was fun watching their brand new colt romp around his pasture! I've ordered my harness and am anxious to get started with my mares. We're already planning my husband's driving weekend! He came home full of ideas on how to set up some of our 40 acres for driving and things he could do on the farm (pull stumps, haul hay, etc,) with the Fjords. There's nothing like getting your spouse involved in it, too! Ü Taffy Mercer [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Trinity Fjords looking at cabin from homestead.jpg] [demime 0.98e removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of Trinity Fjords looking toward homestead from cabin.jpg]
Re: Fw: Holiday vacation
This message is from: Pat Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] There is a internet site called: Netlore, Rumors, Hoaxes and Urban Legends. This is one of the hoaxes mentioned there. Actually there isn't any way for a company to track where messages are forwarded. Merry Holidays pat ttfn John and Bev Sluss wrote: This message is from: John and Bev Sluss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiday vacation - Original Message - From: dolly wilson To: John and Bev Sluss Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 11:44 PM Subject: Fw: Holiday vacation - Original Message - From: Shirley Fischer To: dolly wilson Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 6:02 AM Subject: Fw: Holiday vacation - Original Message - From: Shirley Fischer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 5:53 AM Subject: Fw: Holiday vacation - Original Message - From: Shirley Fischer To: Bev Leyk Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 5:50 AM Subject: Fw: Holiday vacation - Original Message - From: Mary To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 11:33 PM Subject: Fw: Holiday vacation - Original Message - From: Lindy Johnston To: Melissa Ostlie ; Patrick Johnston ; Pam Koska ; Kim Wendell Schultz ; Kathy Ladwig ; Julie Dezurik ; John Ostland ; Brittney Traynor ; Angela Weidenbach Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:28 AM Subject: FW: Holiday vacation -Original Message- From: *Splonskowski, Joann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:25 AM To: binkie duke; carolynn frohman; Darla Huravitch; Lindy Altrichter, AES International; Melissa Pohl; Tabby; Jean Livingood; Bement, Alecia; Johnson, Pat; Pieske, Gary Subject: Holiday vacation I'm thinking that when we get all of this money (wink, wink), we can all get together and go to that tropical island where the cabana boy's (and girls) play. Subject: Fw: FW: FW: PLEASE READ! I know this is for the birds but what the heck!!! Enjoy your new-found wealth!!! - Original Message - To all of my friends, I do not usually forward messages, but this is from my good friend Pearlas Sanborn and she really is an attorney. If she says that this will work - it WILL work. After all, what have you got to lose? SORRY EVERYBODY.JUST HAD TO TAKE THE CHANCE!!! I'm an attorney, and I know the law. This thing is for real. Rest assured AOL and Intel will follow through with their promises for fear of facing a multimillion dollar class action suit similar to the one filed by PepsiCo against General Electric not too long ago. We're not going to help them out with their e-mail beta test without getting a little something for our time. My brother's girlfriend got in on this a few months ago. When I went to visit him for the Baylor/UT game. She showed me her check. It was for the sum of $4,324.44 and was stamped Paid In Full. Like I said before, I know the law, and this is for real. Intel and AOL are now discussing a merger which would make them the largest Internet company and in an effort make sure that AOL remains the most widely used program, Intel and AOL are running an e-mail beta test. When you forward this e-mail to friends, Intel can and will track it (if you are a Microsoft Windows user) for a two week time period. For every person that you forward this e-mail to, Microsoft will pay you $203.15. For every person that you sent it to that forwards it on, Microsoft will pay you $156.29. And for every third person that receives it, you will be paid $17.65. Within two weeks, Intel will contact you for your address and then send you a check. I thought this was a scam myself, but a friend of my good friend's Aunt Patricia, who works at Intel, actually got a check of $4,543.23 by forwarding this e-mail. Try it, what have you got to lose
Re: Holiday vacation - oh really?!
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] WARNING!! Non Fjord Related: read at your own risk!! PASS IT ON! .. Thanks Joe for posting your link. I despise this kind of electronic blather almost as much as I despise Thomas Kincaid's schloky art and MLM schemes to name a couple. It all STINKS. Yup, I am a regular true-blue skeptic and a regular Snopes user. I made myself quite the pariah at my office debunking the urban legend goin' round re. the hypodermic needle in the movie theatre... So by ignoring the plethora of simpering, quacky emails that tell me if I don't pass the message on to all my friends and loved ones, I might not get to heaven. Or feel the love. Whatever! The moral to this story is look before you leap into the abyss of gullability spare us this drivel! kmac ..END of RANT.. Original Message Follows From: Joe Glick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Holiday vacation Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 23:08:21 -0500 This message is from: Joe Glick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please check out the web site below. About half-way down the page you will see an article on this Holiday vacation. http://www.snopes2.com/inboxer/nothing/billgate.htm Bookmark this site for future reference on hard to believestories. http://www.snopes2.com/ _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
Re: Holiday vacation
This message is from: Joe Glick [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please check out the web site below. About half-way down the page you will see an article on this Holiday vacation. http://www.snopes2.com/inboxer/nothing/billgate.htm Bookmark this site for future reference on hard to believestories. http://www.snopes2.com/
Fw: Holiday vacation
This message is from: John and Bev Sluss [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiday vacation - Original Message - From: dolly wilson To: John and Bev Sluss Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 11:44 PM Subject: Fw: Holiday vacation - Original Message - From: Shirley Fischer To: dolly wilson Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 6:02 AM Subject: Fw: Holiday vacation - Original Message - From: Shirley Fischer To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 5:53 AM Subject: Fw: Holiday vacation - Original Message - From: Shirley Fischer To: Bev Leyk Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 5:50 AM Subject: Fw: Holiday vacation - Original Message - From: Mary To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 11:33 PM Subject: Fw: Holiday vacation - Original Message - From: Lindy Johnston To: Melissa Ostlie ; Patrick Johnston ; Pam Koska ; Kim Wendell Schultz ; Kathy Ladwig ; Julie Dezurik ; John Ostland ; Brittney Traynor ; Angela Weidenbach Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:28 AM Subject: FW: Holiday vacation -Original Message- From: *Splonskowski, Joann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 10:25 AM To: binkie duke; carolynn frohman; Darla Huravitch; Lindy Altrichter, AES International; Melissa Pohl; Tabby; Jean Livingood; Bement, Alecia; Johnson, Pat; Pieske, Gary Subject: Holiday vacation I'm thinking that when we get all of this money (wink, wink), we can all get together and go to that tropical island where the cabana boy's (and girls) play. Subject: Fw: FW: FW: PLEASE READ! I know this is for the birds but what the heck!!! Enjoy your new-found wealth!!! - Original Message - To all of my friends, I do not usually forward messages, but this is from my good friend Pearlas Sanborn and she really is an attorney. If she says that this will work - it WILL work. After all, what have you got to lose? SORRY EVERYBODY.JUST HAD TO TAKE THE CHANCE!!! I'm an attorney, and I know the law. This thing is for real. Rest assured AOL and Intel will follow through with their promises for fear of facing a multimillion dollar class action suit similar to the one filed by PepsiCo against General Electric not too long ago. We're not going to help them out with their e-mail beta test without getting a little something for our time. My brother's girlfriend got in on this a few months ago. When I went to visit him for the Baylor/UT game. She showed me her check. It was for the sum of $4,324.44 and was stamped Paid In Full. Like I said before, I know the law, and this is for real. Intel and AOL are now discussing a merger which would make them the largest Internet company and in an effort make sure that AOL remains the most widely used program, Intel and AOL are running an e-mail beta test. When you forward this e-mail to friends, Intel can and will track it (if you are a Microsoft Windows user) for a two week time period. For every person that you forward this e-mail to, Microsoft will pay you $203.15. For every person that you sent it to that forwards it on, Microsoft will pay you $156.29. And for every third person that receives it, you will be paid $17.65. Within two weeks, Intel will contact you for your address and then send you a check. I thought this was a scam myself, but a friend of my good friend's Aunt Patricia, who works at Intel, actually got a check of $4,543.23 by forwarding this e-mail. Try it, what have you got to lose
Re: Nova Scotia Beginner Driving Vacation in Horse Classic
This message is from: Patryjak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you for the heads up on the Horse Classic Calendar, Carol...Hmm, I wonder how many of our friends will be getting THAT calendar for Christmas this year with Mira's picture... Sounds like a good Fjord promo piece! Betsy Patryjak...in Michigan, where we are getting things ready for the Farm and Fjord babysitter so we can attend Blue Earth
Re: Nova Scotia Beginner Driving Vacation in Horse Classic
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wonderful honor there Carol. Good job!!! Jean Jean Walters Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 1946 TO 1949 ] http://users.techline.com/jgayle Amazon.com to order
Re: Nova Scotia Beginner Driving Vacation in Horse Classic
This message is from: LarryMargaret Shorhen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi from Hunbun's Fjords near Calgary, Alberta. I was just wondering if you knew the price of these calendars or does Virginia have an e-mail or fax number. Sounds like the Fjords are well represented. Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Marg -Original Message- From: Arthur Rivoire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: July 13, 2001 5:26 AM Subject: Re: Nova Scotia Beginner Driving Vacation in Horse Classic This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Rivoire) Hi from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia - This is a big-time Brag Alert - We're really thrilled this morning at Beaver Dam Farm because yesterday we received the first copies of the Horse Classic Equine Calendar for 2002, and our Nova Scotia Beginner Driving Vacation is featured as one of two recommended Equine Vacations. The other is in Costa Rica. The Fjords got tremendous coverage --- 11 photos if you can imagine, and a full page of text. Costa Rica only got a half page. Betsy Patryjak's mare, Mira, is featured. She was at Beaver Dam Farm on consignment when the Horse Classic crew was here. She's shown with one of our European Interns, Lida Talma from Holland. Lida, or The Lovely Lida, as she was known, is the namesake for Mira's filly, LIDAMIR. The photos they chose are really great. There's a lovely one of Gjest in harness, and others of him being driven by our beginner driver guests. There's also a wonderful photo of an 11 yr. old girl driving the cones course in a marathon vehicle with our mare, Holly (Solar). It's a great action photo with Holly bending round the curve and the young girl doing just what she was taught. -- This beautiful, full-color calendar is available at almost all tack shops throughout the U.S. and Canada, or you can order it from Horse Classics by writing to Virgina P. Clemens, 4799 Lower Mountain Road, New Hope, PA 19838, tel. 215-794-5878. Best Regards, Carol Rivoire Carol and Arthur Rivoire Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II R.R. 7 Pomquet Antigonish County Nova Scotia B2G 2L4 902 386 2304 http://www.beaverdamfarm.com
Newsletter Update from Beaver Dam Farm + Driving Vacation
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Rivoire) Hello Everybody from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia - It seems I've spent way too much time writing to the Digest, and not enough time on our BDF website. Customers kept asking when we were going to update our Newsletter of January 2000. Well, it's finally been done, and there's a whole lot of news. Also 35 new pictures. Please take a look. I think you'll enjoy it. NOVA SCOTIA BEGINNER DRIVING VACATION - We're filling really fast. If any of you out there have thought you'd like to join us this summer, please give us a call soon. We're 80% booked, but still can offer a great vacation and learning experience to a few more people. Regards, Carol Rivoire
Re: vacation in California
This message is from: Reena [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think there is a guest ranch up the coast a bit in Santa Barbara/Goleta area.if I can find the name, I'll post it. reena - Original Message - From: carol [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 8:02 AM Subject: vacation in California This message is from: carol [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Friends, Tony and I are going on our winter vacation to southern California, Feb 6 to 17th. First part of vacation is visiting family, but the last week(Feb 12 to 16th) is all ours to travel about. Been on the internet looking for some kind of horsey activity somewhere between Los Angeles and San Diego (got to get near a horse at least once on vacation). Would really like to find a guest ranch to stay at south-east calif. ...do a little trail riding. Anyone got any ideas? Web pages to look at?? Carol Tacey Rhode Island
How we spent our summer vacation....
This message is from: Patryjak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello list, Oh! Aaaah! Are we awake yet? From the wonderful dream we had in August? Still trying to get my feet on the ground after spending an absolutely fabulous time in Fjord Heaven, Nova Scotia, a.k.a. Beaver Dam Farm! My husband Jer and I learned so much and had so much fun doing it, not to mention spending four amazing days surrounded by Fjords and folks who are devoted to them. Carol and Arthur are gracious, gracious hosts, wonderful teachers, about the Fjords, about driving, about horsemanship and horsekeeping, about food and, to boot, so down to earth. They are terrific teachers...kind, yet demanding...with people and Fjords. Imagine having 4 days with no phone callsjust Fjords and beginning to learn to drive in the mornings, and Fjords and trail or beach rides in the afternoonsand cleaning tack (even that was fun!) and watching videos (of Fjords) during great lunches...and discussions about Fjords...Learning to harness, ground driving, hooking up, then driving for the first time...with Gjest, no lessthen driving a simple dressage test, driving a cones course, driving a hazard...(which I, who am normally a timid rider, drove right out ofbut Gjest's trot was s lovely...while Carol calmly commented...and what county are you heading for?) Riding Holly, Tessa, Jacob, Tirol, Maryke...those kind BDF FjordsSeeing yearlings and two year olds learning, watching the babies at play, 8:30 AM til 4:30 PMFun with fabulous Fjords and people. In addition to Carol and Arthur, the staff at BDF was a joy to be around.(Did I mention the Fjords?) Such knowledgeable and hardworking young people were an inspiration to us, not to mention everyone's great sense of humor. (Sometime ask Rivoire's what is an oyster movie? ) :) The combination of international guests and staff made this a delicious soup, carefully prepared by Carol and Arthur and served with an entree of fabulous Fjords...And then there is the scenery and friendly people of Nova Scotia...next book As new Fjord owners, this was the best gift we could have given ourselves, and the best vacation (and Birthday) we've ever had. I could write a book about itand, oh yes, we're getting another Fjord.very soonactually twoTomas needs more buddies...and we have only just begun...to learn, that is! Between our vacation and this list our learning curve is definitely on the upswing. Carol and Arthur, Thank you for making this opportunity available to us normal folks to escape to... (We have videos and 6 rolls of photos...now we need a website...) Betsy Jer Patryjak...gradually landing back in Michigan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How I am finally spending my summer vacation
This message is from: Cynthia_Madden/OAA/UNO/[EMAIL PROTECTED] I am excited that finally Tank and I will be getting to do something after a crummy summer. My wrist has healed enough so that I can drive (I am practicing my achenbach style) and can hold the whip. We are doing a clinic with Muffy Seaton on Saturday and a one day CDE on Sunday sponsored by our driving club. Then leaving towards Libby on Monday. Amy White (Steve's better half since she can trim manes and he can't) came out last night and trimmed Tank's mane up for me so that he will be looking spiffy for his millenium debut. Niether of us is in great shape and we don't expect to be real competitive, but we are looking forward to spending a weekend with our driving friends and having a good time. It's a great way to start a vacation. Cynthia Madden email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vacation
This message is from: Mary Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi List, We will be out of town for a while and will be signing off the List temporarily. Anyone who wants to send us a message can do so to our personal email, as it will still be picked up. We'll check messages maybe once while we are gone, as there are not too many chances to do so where we are going - north in our sailboat. Will sign back on when we return. Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/
Re: vacation from horses/wood
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 6/1/00 12:41:12 AM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but you do need to get away at times. Jean, I hear you. I wonder if my mares wouldn't like to stay one extra month at boarding school? For the first time in a year I can have my plans not dictated to by their feeding times and it's pure luxury. I have to find somebody as nutty about their animals as me that lives close enough we can spell each other. The person who has had barns and uses wood, one of my horses will eat it given a chance so I don't like them to be around wood structures. Maybe yours are better behaved than mine. Gail in LC
Re: Nova Scotia Beginner Driving Vacation Fjords for Sale
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Rivoire) Hello from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia - For any of you who are looking for Vacation Spots for this year, we have a few places open for our Nova Scotia Beginner Driving Vacations. And for those who aren't familiar with our program, here is a very brief description: We're looking forward to our 8th Season teaching beginners how to harness and drive safely. It's a 4-Day course, Monday - Thursday. Our course is an Introduction to Combined Driving. We teach people a little dressage, how to drive cones and obstacles, and how to drive cross-country. At the end of the course, on Thursdays, we hold a MINI CDE. Afterwards, at lunch, we announce winners and award prizes. Everyone has a lot of fun, and really gets into the spirit of competition, albeit, low-key and relaxed competition. Driving is in the morning. Then we break for a gourmet lunch on the deck overlooking the bay. Afternoons, we trailride. Wednesday afternoon is our Beach Party with Horses, where we take two horses, hampers of wine cheese and head to our secret beach. Then we lounge about enjoying the wine and cheese while two of the guests ride on their own up and down the deserted beach. When they've had enough, and are ready for a glass of wine, two other guests take their place. --- As is everything else in our program, this is a nice, relaxing party. The cost is $500 U.S. per person for four days. Our season is from June 26 - Aug. 31. The Charming Cottage on the farm is fully booked for this season, but we can recommend accomodations in the area. -- We are hoping to build another cottage for next season. Many weeks are filled, but we have some openings during the following weeks: June 26 - June 29, July 3 - July 3, July 17 - July 20, Aug. 21 - Aug. 24 Aug. 28 - Aug. 31. Please visit our webite for more information, and please call or email. We're happy to do all we can to see you have a wonderful stay in Nova Scotia. FJORDHORSES FOR SALE FROM BEAVER DAM FARM: QUINTESA ( Konggard x Mira - imported Norwegian mare). Yearling filly. Pretty as they get! Absoutely beautiful head. Very refined. Wonderfully straight legs. Very good mover! Bombproof!!! Well handled. Ties, Cross-ties, leads well, loads, clips. BDF QUENTIN DURWARD - (Gjest x Maryke- imported Dutch mare). Yearling stud colt. Beautiful colt! VERY TALL ELEGANT. Gorgeous head with huge eyes. Beautifully mannered. Very well handled. Sensitive intelligent. Ties, Cross-ties, leads well, loads, clips. TESSICA - 2 yr. imported filly. (Gardar daughter) Tessica is a daughter of a Dutch Studbook stallion (only 45 Approved Stallions in Holland). She's certified A Premie in quality, DNA tested microchipped. --- This is another very beautiful filly with a gorgeous head. She's going into her second year of professional training to drive. Now working well in poles, and will be hitched within two weeks. A very calm, easy to handle young mare. TRIENTSJE - 2 yr. imported filly (Gardar daughter). Same as above - daughter of Dutch Studbook Approved Stallion, A quality, DNA, microchipped. --- UNUSUALLY PRETTY MARE! Very feminine! Lovely character and temperament. Very suited to children and women. Going well in poles. Professionally trained. TESSA - 2 yr. imported filly (Bjorgaard daughter). Same as above - Studbook Stallion, etc. Very athletic filly. Good dressage prospect as she has a wonderfuly walk! Excellent temperament. Well handled trained. Darker color. TYRZA - 2 yr. imported filly (Ohlsen Junior daughter). Hjerter-Knaeght on dam's side. Same as above - Studbook Stallion as sire, etc. Tall, great conformation, athletic. STUPENDOUS MOVER You won't believe how this filly can move! Absolute natural for ridden dressage or Combined Driving. Outstanding! SILAIKA - 3 yr. imported mare (Arin daughter). 1 1/2 years professional driving training. Drives very well. Almost push-button, our trainer says. Looks wonderful in harness. Drives all over farm. Doesn't blink when passed by trucks, machinery on our narrow roads. Very good looking. This mare has very good conformation, and excellent hard, dry, clean legs. JACOB - 5 yr. old gelding. Tall heavier type. Professionally trained to drive. Currently, 3 months training doing very well. Nice family type horse. Has a winning personality. Loves people and other horses. He's a Happy Horse. * STINE and RIENA are expecting foals soon. BOTH THESE MARES ARE THE ULTIMATE IN QUALITY. --- BOTH ARE BRED TO GJEST. ~ * We have just celebrated Gjest's 23rd birthday, and Tessa's 26th birthday. --- Gjest is the sire of about 600 foals. Tessa has been mama to 8 foals. --- Both horses are in excellent shape with no problems of any sort
vacation
This message is from: Julie Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just wanted to let everyone know that I will be out of the country until next Sunday. Look for me in the Grand Caymens or Cancun! Julie
on vacation
This message is from: Mary Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi list, Will be going off list for a week. We are going on a ski vacation in Canada. My email server tends to grumble a lot if there are lots of messages stacked up, so I'll unsubscribe while I'm gone. Messages to our private email address will still go through, however. We're heading north to pursue our other hobby - skiing. It's a yearly pilgrimage for us. Grew up in Libby back when it was truly a Scandinavian town. Most kids grew up with boards on their feet, a ski pole in one hand, and a roll of buttered and sugared lefse in the other - with visions of their hero, Lasse Viren, running through their little heads as they trudged off down the track. Needless to say, skiing has changed since then - downhill is now my favorite - but guess it gets into the blood when you're young!! No, we did not have Fjord horses in Libby back then - didn't even know they existed when I was a kid. Glad I found out about them. See you all in a week or so. Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: Out West vacation plans
This message is from: Meredith Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from: Alison Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ripple Creek Lodge in the White Mountains of CO has fabulous horses. They appoint ~you~ as the guide before you take off, so your group is free to go wherever you want to go at your own pace. Please don't think I want to imply anything about any place, but this is a much abused system I agree, there is more room for abuse. But the horses here are used to go to definate places ... like to go fishing at Mirror Lake or to go on guided trips to the Table Tops for elk. The going is rough and they are often loaded with fishing gear, cameras and lunches. It's not an atmosphere for abuse. The folks are mostly families or old fishing buddies. It's not like a rental stable. Meredith Sessoms Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA Dorina NFR Aagot
Re: Out West vacation plans
This message is from: Alison Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ripple Creek Lodge in the White Mountains of CO has fabulous horses. They appoint ~you~ as the guide before you take off, so your group is free to go wherever you want to go at your own pace. Please don't think I want to imply anything about any place, but this is a much abused system. I boarded for a long time at a farm that did this sort of trail riding, and I also bought my Sun Star there. The manager was one of the best horsemen I have ever know, and I have never seen him so much as loose his temper around them, but this is not the case with the dude riders. I never actually worked barns, but I hung around allot, and the animals end up really abused. Boyfriends try to show off, they loose their temper, and are generally abusive ( Not just boyfriends, but they were the worst). I have horses come back head to toe lather because they have been galloped for 1 hour straight. I have seen people whip the horses while their reins are too short for the horse to move. This is the exception to the rule, but I wouldn't like to go to a place like this. The horses hate it. Sunny always bucked. I know that this is not necessarily the result with all guide less trail rides, but I feel a warning is in order for those looking for a fun time. Many of these horses would not leave the barn at all. In case you're wondering, This place has since closed down as the army base closed, and the horses all got amazing homes (even Sox, the worst of the bunch). And for proof that the horses understood who was responsible and felt happy outside of these incidents, the barn manager has rode Sunny a few times. Sunny was happy to see him and was a gentleman, even though he tossed most adult riders ( but never the 10 year old girl :o)). The manager also would do things like pay $600 for surgery on a 30ish year old horse ( who is now at least 36 and living with my old riding instructor).
Re: Out West vacation plans
This message is from: Meredith Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] I wrote ... Any nice guest ranch or bb with reasonable prices and regular horses? I have only stayed at two guest ranches: Ripple Creek Lodge in the White Mountains of CO has fabulous horses. They appoint ~you~ as the guide before you take off, so your group is free to go wherever you want to go at your own pace. You can even claim a horse for your exclusive use for the duration of your stay. However, you pay dearly for filthy hunting cabins. Good food though and they take dogs. I can highly reccommend this place for a horseback ride and a meal after you turn your horse in ... sleep somewhere else. Absaroka Mountain Lodge in the Wapiti Valley between Cody WY and the east entrance to Yellowstone has very nice, clean cabins but the horse experience is lacking ... mixed, guided groups on bored horses. Nice restaurant, reasonable prices and they accept dogs too. Any guest ranches out there with nice cabins and good horses? Vivian wrote ... If you ever head northeast please feel free to stop by for a visit. We have plenty of room. I wanted to go to New England and up into Canada to visit Fjordhestgards along the way to Boston and Quebec, but I got voted down before I even got the chance to voice my opinion! So ... out West it is! And I will check out the ADS travel booklet. Meredith Sessoms Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA Dorina NFR Aagot
Re: Out West vacation plans
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meredith, The American Driving Society publishes a booklet of horse farms in the US that welcome travelers. Most are obviously driving enthusiasts maybe some with Fjords. You can contact the ADS at their website http://www.AmericanDrivingSociety.org Good Luck sounds like a wonderful trip. If you ever head northeast please feel free to stop by for a visit. We have plenty of room.Vivian Creigh
Out West vacation plans
This message is from: Meredith Sessoms [EMAIL PROTECTED] My husband, Steve, and I are planning a vacation from the South to Yellowstone next summer with our friends, a family of four. The route is not fixed yet, however, I like to head straight for the Rocky Mountains in CO. There is something special about waking up on the high plains looking at those high peaks and heading out to cross over them in the morning light. Since we will be traveling northwest we probably won't go south of CO. We might explore MT or ID a little this year and we usually head home over the Bighorns. Does anybody know of guest ranchs or bbs that have Fjords along the way? Any nice guest ranch or bb with reasonable prices and regular horses? Any nice guest ranch or bb with dressage or driving lessons? Meredith Sessoms Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA Dorina NFR Aagot
Re: Driving vacation NFHR publications
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ursula, We would pay that amount of money for that type of information. Brian Jacobsen, DVM Norwegian Fjordhest Ranch Salisbury, North Carolina
Re: Driving vacation NFHR publications
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 07:16 AM 8/18/1999 -0700, you wrote: This message is from: Ursula Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ON ANOTHER NOTE: I am thrilled with the amount of discussion about Evaluation lately and would join in if there were about 10 more hours in each day. What do you all think about compiling the results of the last 5 Evals into one book along with some explanation of the history and other relevant information. Have the format of the book such that we can add future results in booklet form and add into a Binder ALSO have a Stud book of the same format to add to the Binder and maybe an official Guideline for New Owners in the same format to put into the binder. All info nicely bound and binder-ready and organized. What do you think? How many of you would pay $25 per copy for each of these books? Ursula, I would be most happy to pay $25 for such a bookIt is something I've been hoping for for a long time. Being up here in Alaska, especially, I am even less able to get to the shows, evaluations, etc. and there are few Fjords to choose from here, especialy stallions. I have two mares, and while not actively breeding now, I will sometime in the future be thinking about breeding the youngest one. There are people here that call me about fjords, and are wanting to know how to select a good one. Could we have a good (professional) photo of each horse presented also? That would be a guide to people also, altho I know photos can be deceptive and often don't show the horse well. I also know that would increase the cost! But just an idea! I am going to make it to Libby this year! It will be fun to see all these folks that I've met on this list and read about in the Herald and PNWFPG newsletters. Others I met there in l992 that won't make it, I'll miss seeing you! Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, another beautiful day ahead, but the cranes and the geese are starting to flock in preparation for their flight south :( Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Driving vacation NFHR publications
This message is from: Mary Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Ursula Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: Ursula Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] ON ANOTHER NOTE: What do you all think about compiling the results of the last 5 Evals into one book along with some explanation of the history and other relevant information. Ursula, This kind of information is probably long overdue. We have been having Evaluations of one kind or another since 1991 or so. So far the information gained from these evaluations has been unavailable for use - except to the person owning the evauated horse(who receives his horse's score sheet). Evaluation results(horse's name, medallion received, ribbons received, etc.) have been printed in the Herald sometimes, but this info does not REALLY tell you how a horse measures up. When looking for breeding stock, or for a stallion for one's mare, we really need to see those score sheets - what is the horse's score for head, neck, body, etc. and how was he/she evaluated for each part of the head, neck, body, etc? Only then can we know without seeing the horse whether that particular horse might have the proper strong points to offset one's mare's weak points (or visa versa). It's hard to do your homework well if part of the research material is unavailable. I assume that the purpose of Evaluations is to improve the breed by making information on breeding stock available so that breeders can choose wisely when mating stock. It isn't enough to just know that a certain mare/stallion has a blue medallian, a red, a yellow, etc., or that he /she received so many points in the riding or driving tests. We need to know WHY they received the score they did if we are ever going to be able to choose wisely when looking for breeding stock. Not all of us have the funds - or the time - to run all over North America looking at horses and photos/videos only tell part of the picture, if anything at all. With more horses available all the time we need the Evaluation tool to help make initial choices, otherwise the Evaluation process just becomes another one upsmanship contest, of no use to the rest of us. Mary === Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
Re: Driving vacation NFHR publications
This message is from: Teressa Kandianis [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't plan on breeding or using evaluations but I would like to have this book anyhow. Teressa K In Ferndale with 2 fjords
Driving vacation NFHR publications
This message is from: Ursula Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] As many of you know we, at Trinity Fjords have been hosting a few Fjord Folks for driving weekends here in beautiful British Columbia. This past weekend we finished this summer project with two great people from Colorado ---Beth Biemer and Sandy North from Starfire Farm. We had a great time. Brian hitched every conceivable combination of hitches. tandem, four-in-hand, unicorn, pair singles. We also had fun doing single pair log skid of the timed variety and the skill variety (1ft 2ft 3ft pulls) We also set up the advanced draft test and Brian and Beth drove those with singles. It was 'a weekend to die for' especially for drivers. Sandy and I tended to be the critical (colour)commentary, videographer/photographers, cook support (IOW the usual gophers) Sandy recorded the whole weekend on video. We also took update photos of our two stallions Raynor and Stein. We will update our website shortly with those. For those if you drivers out there...look outBeth is an up-and-comer in the driving world. She is a superb horseperson in her own right already and is working on her driving skills BIG TIME. Her horses are young but she will bring them along 'right' and in the future will be giving everyone a run for their money. Trinity Fjords was like Grand Central this morning. Rune Lassessen (Hestehaven) was here picking up his horse 'Joe' who was here for driving training (we miss him already) He is a Pinto but a Fjord at heart and treats fences like Fjords too. Rune took my young stallion Penfrydds Raynor to Anne A. for a few months of riding training. They all left within a 1/2 hour of each other (Beth Sandy to Vancouver to catch their flight back to Denver) Brian back to the hospital and his workSo today, the place seems deserted. Only 8 Fjordies left on the place and a whole lot of empty feelings and stalls. We will now concentrate on getting the four-in-hand ready for the High Country Pleasure Driving Show in Calgary at the end of the month and then the Victoria Horse Trial the middle of Sept. This will be OUR TIME. The four are getting in shape and thus far are sound. We will miss going to Libby but will try to go again for 2000. Good luck to all of you who WILL be there. Jim H. will be a good judge for you as always. We will get all the news from our son Aaren who will be there as the Announcer as always. ON ANOTHER NOTE: I am thrilled with the amount of discussion about Evaluation lately and would join in if there were about 10 more hours in each day. What do you all think about compiling the results of the last 5 Evals into one book along with some explanation of the history and other relevant information. Have the format of the book such that we can add future results in booklet form and add into a Binder ALSO have a Stud book of the same format to add to the Binder and maybe an official Guideline for New Owners in the same format to put into the binder. All info nicely bound and binder-ready and organized. What do you think? How many of you would pay $25 per copy for each of these books? On the International front this type of published info would say North America has Arrived these are our horses and this is what we do with them. Breeders would have vital info at their fingertips and all this info would be available to all who are interested in maintaining the integrity of this Breed .. nationally and internationally. This type of project is being considered and it would be interesting to get a feel for the demand. Please let Mike or I know so he can take a rough number to the BOD to convince them that this is a worthwhile project and a place to apply membership dollars. The initial outlay for this type of printed matter is costly so interest needs to be reflective. There are many of us that would value this type of publication but as always the BOD is skeptical about demand. Let's send them a message. Ursula Brian Jensen Trinity Fjords Box 1032 Lumby BC Canada V0E-2G0 http://okjunc.junction.net/~ujensen/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (250) 547-6303
Re: vacation
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WOW! Sounds like a dream trip to me. What a great way to enjoy your friends, the country, and Those little guys : ) Brigid in CA
Re: vacation
This message is from: Jean Gayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sounds absolutely marvelous Griet, such freedom and changing scenery. Jean Gayle Aberdeen, WA [Authoress of The Colonel's Daughter ] http://www.techline.com/~jgayle -Original Message- From: griet vandenbroucke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, July 22, 1999 11:32 AM Subject: vacation This message is from: griet vandenbroucke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi List
vacation
This message is from: griet vandenbroucke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi List Last two weeks, I had my holidays, so I had plenty of time to spend with my horses and I did. last week we left for a three day trip with my fjords. The first day we did about 40 kms to a friend of mine, it was extremely hot so we had to go slowly , the second day we joined a trip with our riding club. We managed to get 21 charriots together and we did a very nice trip. The weather was nice and there was a slight breeze so it was a wonderfull day. At those moments you can see the quality of our Fjords they are small but they manage it to go very well. At the beginning there were people who say: Can they do those walks with those little ones??? but at the end they have to say. Waaauw those little guys do fine. The last day we returnes home and we had a lot of fun. In between we did a few walks because the 31th of july my husband and I are organising a trip for horses. We have a lot of work for it to find the nicest routes. We asked permission to take a few driveways were normally horses are forbidden. We did not get the permission yet but we hope. A neighbour of mine is the gouvernor (not exactly the same of an american one) and he promised us to do the best as he can to get our permission. Yesterday we left for a trip at about 200 kms from here in a driving club who is connected to ours. In the morning we got into the woods and we didn't come out till the evening. That's nice to do because here we dont have that at home and it's nice to go into another region to do a ride. Unfortunately monday I have to return to my work, but I have two wonderfull weeks to reminde me of my beloved Fjords. Lots of FJORDINGS from Belgium. Griet vandenbroucke
new address after vacation
This message is from: JoAnn or Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] With profuse apologies to the person who had to sort out a bounced digest today, I'm back in Japan with yet another new email address!!! (I don't think I can unsubscribe the old address now that I'm using the new one.) My vacation to the states was actually a grueling relative-visiting expedition which burned 200 gallons of gas in three weeks, all so *everyone* could tell me I don't do enough to stay in touch with them :-/ That's not a vacation!!! Next year, to Australia, where we know nobody! :-) We drove south through North Carolina I was looking forward to seeing some fjords, but hubby's internet ax-murderer phobia prevented our stopping at Fjordhest! Boo! Well, it *was* pretty late at night when we went past, thanks to miscalculating the time we spent driving through hiking in the the Shenandoah National Forest, so we wouldn't have been convenient visitors anyway. Interestingly, my mom, who drives team interstate trucking, had recently noticed some fjordhorses in a pasture and might want to buy one once she Dad get their retirement property in TN. She used to ride before I was born, and is thinking about learning to drive now. I think her reasoning is to find an even-tempered small horse for her grandkids when they visit. (My sisters have children; I have a horse obsession.) The only horsey things we did on vacation was go for a trail ride on some cool draft mules in the Poconos, buy some stuff from a tack auction, and go see a team penning in FL. I had a good time anyway. In IL, there was a Friesian farm listed in the yellow pages under horses for rent, so I called made a complete fool of myself by assuming they were rented for trail rides; I guess instead they provide carriage rental. They told me on the phone - no, we wouldn't let people ride them; they're too expensive. LOL! I knew that... I fell in love with a really cute appaloosa gelding at the auction but had a hard time describing his color. Then I got back here realized that the gelding's color exactly matches Tarot's (which isn't quite fjordlike since there's no stripe), except with big dark spots on the roanish rump. Too bad the military won't ship any pets besides cats or dogs! I'll go catch up with the digests now see what's been happening :-) I did see that Bonnie Hendricks is on board now -- welcome! She's a real expert on all the little Japanese horses over here. JoAnn doin' the important chores before unpacking suitcases ;-)
Vacation time!
This message is from: JoAnn [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yay! Tack stores, used book stores, and relatives -- that's what it's all about! I'm temporarily signing off fjordhorse for those very compelling reasons ;-) We're flying in to West Palm Beach, and possibly driving up to Woodstock, IL. Hmm, this time I'd better remember to check out the Hooved Animal Humane Society. Oh gee, isn't the Tempel Lippizan farm somewhere around there? And Libertyville tack store? So much to see; too bad my grandma isn't resilient enough to be dragged around to these things. Anyone who wants to volunteer to show me the important horsey sights (thereby reducing my gallivanting non-relative-visiting quality time by eliminating the getting lost factor), email me privately! Look in the new edition of Hoof Print (NATRC publication) for my story about Okinawa's first competitive trail ride, possibly complete with photo of Tarot (the world-famous Oki Fjord). I haven't seen it yet myself -- oh, how I hate the speed of bulk mail :-D Sayonara for now! (I'll be around a few more days, but gotta start signing off lists to make sure the computer won't explode while I'm gone) JoAnn in Japan [EMAIL PROTECTED] p.s. - please email me if you know of any cool fjord gatherings or shows next month in IL or south FL :-) p.p.s. - or if you know a good place for a beginning lesson in driving
Re: Back from vacation
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (jean gayle) Great story Carol, an offspring to be really proud of and welcome back. Jean Gayle Jean Gayle --- A Subscriber at Techline
Re: Back from vacation
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Arthur Rivoire) Hi Everybody from Carol Rivoire at Beaver Dam Farm in Nova Scotia - In case anybody was wondering, No, I didn't go away mad. We were just on vacation in the States for the holidays. We had a wonderful time. We drove down through New Brunswick, into Maine, then into New Hampshire, and finally came to rest in Massachusetts with family. While in Maine, we visited Mel and Joanne Goble, the owners of BDF JASON, The Fox Hunting Fjord. Stayed several days with Mel Joanne, and had a wonderful time. We traded grandparent stories. I got to drive BDF Jason, and give Mel(who is a formidable rider, but a new driver), some pointers. Since Mel Jason have already wowed the fox hunting world, they plan to get into Combined Driving --- Watch out Larry Poulin! --- We had a wonderful time with the Gobles. Mel Joanne told us about a local lady driver who got behind Jason, and said, I think he's a man's horse. They told me that story, and my reaction was a bit defensively feminist. What's this stuff about a man's horse?, I said to myself. Well . . . I'll tell you. When I got behind Jason, I knew what the lady driver was talking about. We hadn't even moved a step . . . and I knew! Jason has power where power counts. You sit behind Jason, and you know those haunches can perform. It's like revving up a Ferrari. Not that I've ever revved a Ferrari, but I can imagine the feeling. --- So, I drove BDF Jason in the snowy ring for 40 minutes, and he never so much as slipped out of gear. Just kept trucking. That horse could have gone on all day. When we brought him back to the barn, he wasn't even damp, and that's saying a lot since he had a fairly thick coat. I was really amazed. --- Years and years ago, back in 1979, when we first started with Fjords, Sven Huseby, who was one of the first Fjord owners, and also a scholar, and of Norwegian parents, said . . . Most Fjords never in their lives get to develop anywhere near their full potential of strength and muscular development. Very frankly, we've never achieved this optimal development with our Fjords at Beaver Dam Farm even though we use them a lot in the season. Our Fjords get fit, but NEVER optimally fit. BDF JASON had the development and muscles to prove that he'd come close to his potential. Mel was no longer fox hunting, but he had done it, and Jason's body had developed the muscular structure to sustain the effort he was asked to make. And now, that he wasn't being worked that hard, he maintained a lot of the stamina and strength he'd needed a year and a half ago. --- Mel still rides regularly, of course, and drives often, but not to the extent he'd done when hunting. At that time, Mel and Jason would go off for hours, and spend the better part of those hours galloping, and as Mel tells it, they'd very often come in ahead of, and in far better shape than the Thoroughbreds and Warmbloods he was hunting with. And for those of you who haven't heard about BDF Jason, The Fox Hunting Fjord, I'll tell you a little bit. --- At that time (about 2 years ago) Mel was hunting with a Pennsylvania hunt. Mel had never hunted before, and neither had Jason, who was a four-year-old. When the pair entered the hunt field, they were politely laughed at, but as they say, He who laughs last, laughs best. --- At the end of the hunt season, at the prestigious Hunt Ball, Mel and Jason won a special award as the ONLY horse and rider pair, in the history of the hunt, to have made every single hunt --- 44 hunts in all. No other horse had ever remained sound enough to ride in every single hunt. In addition, BDF Jason won the FITNESS AWARD. Not bad for a 14 hand four-year-old in his first season. Mel said Jason never refused a jump. Well, I'd meant to tell you about some of the other Fjord people we visited, but as usual, I never can say anything in only a few words, and have gone on long enough. I hope some of you have enjoyed Jason's story, and if I have time, I'll tell you about the others tomorrow. One more thing to say about this remarkable young gelding. After his triumphant season in the hunt field, BDF Jason went to Equitana in 1997 as part of the NFHR demo. He carried a flag in the Grand Parade. As a Canadian born horse, he demonstrated daily under saddle in the Canadian Pavilliion. He stood on a stage for hours as a mannequin for a saddle-fitting demo. In fact, BDF Jason was everywhere that year at Equitana. As Joanne Goble says, Whenever a dependable 'Can-Do' horse was needed, the call went out to 'Get Jason!' Best Regards, Carol Rivoire Carol and Arthur Rivoire Beaver Dam Farm Fjords II R.R. 7 Pomquet Antigonish County Nova Scotia B2G 2L4 902 386 2304 http://www3.ns.sympatico.ca/beaverdf
Europe Vacation
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ernie [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/20/98 10:36 AM Hello - My wife Nancy and I are from New Hampshire and have an eight year old Fjord, Sonny. Nancy does trail riding and dressage during the week and we do driving on weekends. We are usually at most dirving shows in New England. We are planning a trip to Europe in the summer of 1999 and would like to combine it with a driving event. We heard bits about a driving show in Holland and Hungry but can't get further details. Can anyone out there help us. Thanks.
RE: Vacation - we're back - part 2
This message is from: Cynthia_Madden/OAA/UNO/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, this is part one. I accidently deleted the first paragraph before I sent the message. We started our vacation in Lexington, KY where we visited the KY Horse Park and several art galaries and ate lots of good food (we are not unlike Fjords in our love of eating!). We spoke to Wayne Hipsley on the phone but were unable to coordinate a lunch date as we hoped. (Sorry we missed you Wayne). We discovered a wonderful new equine artist. Steve can put up his web site soon. If you have not visited the KY Horse Park you must do so sometime. It has the International Museum of the Horse which is terrific and you can spend all day visiting the park. There were a pair of Fjords there owned by the Garrison's of Lexington. Steve will put them on our web site soon. Cynthia Madden, Coordinator Office of Sponsored Programs Research University of Nebraska at Omaha EAB 202, 6001 Dodge Street, Omaha, NE 68182-0210 Phone: 402.554.2286 FAX: 402.554.3698 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.unomaha.edu/~wwwspr/osp.html
Re: Vacation - we're back!
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 08:44 AM 11/2/98 -0500, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 98-11-02 07:45:56 EST, you write: The othe filter that I forgot to mention in my post to Cynthia is that the by-laws state you must have been a member for 60 days prior to the mailing of the ballots in order to get one. Good. I was hoping there was a reasonable explanation, and thought it would be something like this. That's why I didn't bring it up before. When I saw the post that a couple others were missing ballots though, I began to wonder if there was a major error. Thanks for straightening this out! No problem. If anyone else didn't get their ballot please let me know. I want our data to be as correct as it can be. We certainly don't want to have anyone excluded from the voting or not getting their Heralds either. I will check out anyone that didn't get their ballot to see why. Mike == Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Webster, NY, USA (Suburb of Rochester) Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Vacation - we're back!
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 98-11-02 07:45:56 EST, you write: The othe filter that I forgot to mention in my post to Cynthia is that the by-laws state you must have been a member for 60 days prior to the mailing of the ballots in order to get one. Good. I was hoping there was a reasonable explanation, and thought it would be something like this. That's why I didn't bring it up before. When I saw the post that a couple others were missing ballots though, I began to wonder if there was a major error. Thanks for straightening this out! Pamela
Re: Vacation - we're back!
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 09:00 PM 11/1/98 -0600, you wrote: This message is from: Cynthia [EMAIL PROTECTED] It was nice to see how well the list got along without us for a week (I think). BTW, in conversation with Sharon we were surprised to find out that the NFHR had a board election. We never received a ballot and Sharon was aware of at least one other person who had also not received a ballot. Did anyone else not get one??? My understanding is that they were mailed out in June and due in August. Julie, could this be discussed at the board meeting, especially if others also respond as we are. Well I just checked on it for you. The mailing labels for the voting are printed from the same database that the Herald labels are printed from. There is a bit of difference in the selection of records though. In order to vote you must be a current member (Life, Family or Single (Subscriber only doesn't get a vote). You must also own at least one NFHR registered horse. Your record looks ok. You are Family members and own a NFHR registered horse. So I ran the mailing label report to see what happened. A label was generated for you Steve. The labels then get mailed by me to the election coordinator. This year that was Kit Davis in MN. She then stuffs the ballots, letter and reply envelopes into the envelopes and mails them from there. Family members get 2 ballots 2 reply envelopes in their envelope. I guess if out of 500 mailed the post office loses a couple of them. I don't have any other good explaination for you not getting your ballots. Mike == Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Webster, NY, USA (Suburb of Rochester) Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Vacation - we're back!
This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 10:13 PM 11/1/98 -0500, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 98-11-01 22:03:24 EST, you write: We never received a ballot and Sharon was aware of at least one other person who had also not received a ballot. Did anyone else not get one??? I didn't receive one either. Would have loved to. Now here's a can of worms to open if there are a lot of members who did NOT get ballots and should have, should there not be another vote??? I thought I was alone, since I joined sortof late... But I wasn't THAT late. If a lot of people who were interested in voting did not get a ballot, seems the election would have been skewed. Ok I just checked yours too because I still had the labels in another window. You did get a label printed this time but you wouldn't have when they were printed. Your membership wasn't entered until June 12th. The labels had already been printed by then. In fact the ballots should have been mailed by the 1st of June. They were late this year due to Kit's husband Ron being in the hospital for a week or 2. The othe filter that I forgot to mention in my post to Cynthia is that the by-laws state you must have been a member for 60 days prior to the mailing of the ballots in order to get one. Mike == Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Webster, NY, USA (Suburb of Rochester) Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vacation - we're back!
This message is from: Cynthia [EMAIL PROTECTED] The really exciting part of trip was a visit to an Amish carriage maker near the Falck's and Hamlett's in Edgewood, IA. I ordered a new cart for next season. I am very excited and hope he doesn't get it done before I get the money saved up. It should be ready in March. It will be similar to my current road cart, but more suitable for competitive driving and slightly fancier than my current cart. If anyone is in the market for a used road cart that is in good condition, let me know. I have really enjoyed it but just need to step up a bit. I plan to revarnish it over the winter Next we headed over to Decorah and then called our friend Joan Kepros. She extended an invitation for us to visit her and the Fjords. She was also very gracious and we talked Fjords for hours. Regretfully, we headed back today. First thing, we both did is catch up on the list. It was nice to see how well the list got along without us for a week (I think). BTW, in conversation with Sharon we were surprised to find out that the NFHR had a board election. We never received a ballot and Sharon was aware of at least one other person who had also not received a ballot. Did anyone else not get one??? My understanding is that they were mailed out in June and due in August. Julie, could this be discussed at the board meeting, especially if others also respond as we are. PS - I loved the Noah's Ark story! Cynthia Madden mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Omaha, Nebraska USA
Re: Vacation
This message is from: saskia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Steve and Cynthia, If you have time for a cup of coffee around your kitchen table, we would love to visit with you. If you don't, we understand. I have time, coffee and a kitchen table, but unfortunately I think I'm a few miles too much out of your way... enjoy yourselves and come back safely and happily!!! Saskia (in rainy and muddy Belgium)
Vacation
This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cynthia and I are going on vacation tomorrow, so the list is going to have to look after itself for the next week. We're going to just head east from here, with a possible final destination of Lexington, Kentucky. We're going to take our NFHR member roster, and maybe say howdy to some folk along the way. If we don't make it as far as Kentucky, that's OK; if we do, we love the Horse Park. If you're somewhere along an indirect route from Omaha to Lexington, don't be surprised if you get a call from us sometime next week. If you have time for a cup of coffee around your kitchen table, we would love to visit with you. If you don't, we understand. -- Steve McIlree Cynthia Madden -- Pferd, Keyah, Skipper, Tank -- Omaha, Nebraska, USA Then we began to ride. My soul smoothed itself out, a long-cramped scroll freshening and fluttering in the wind. --Robert Browning(1812-1889)
vacation
Hello! Please unsubscribe me from the fjord list. I will sign up again when I return from vacation! Ann Sigford
vacation to colorado
This message is from: duane trupiano [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello list. We're going to a family reunion in Estes Park, Colorado mid August. We'll be spending a few days in the Black Hills and then going to Co.(we live in Michigan) The men folk insist on a stop to Cabela's sporting goods store. My sister lives in Des Moines, Iowa and that will be a stop also. I'd love to know what we should see along the way, and what to avoid. We'll be camping in an old motorhome..our boys are 11 and 14... and we like outdoor things. We'd love to fish, but out of state day licenses probably cost a lot. I'd love to stop and meet everyone on the list as we go by, and meet your fjords but time is short. The last reunion was in Maryland and I insisted we visit Schmucker's Saddle Shop on the way homewhich wasn't exactly a direct route home...but fun for me! I worry about leaving the animals in someone else's care, but we do need to get away now and then. Thanks for your input in advance. Nancy
Vacation reply
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm in NYC! I will reply to your e-mail as soon as I am avaliable! Love, Elizabeth _ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
