Re: [gentoo-user] OT - imap and thunderbird

2005-06-29 Thread Ron Nelson
Antoine wrote:

>Hi,
>I can't work out how to tell thunderbird to look in all of the folders
>on an imap server (for a single account) and retrieve at least the
>fact that there is a new message. It is rather annoying that one has
>to click on the folder for it to check - with 20+ folders this becomes
>unmanageable...
>Any pointers welcome,
>Cheers
>Antoine
>  
>
Go in to the properties for each folder you want it to show new messages
in, under General Information click the box that says: Check this folder
for new messages.
That should take care of it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - imap and thunderbird

2005-06-29 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Antoine wrote:
> Hi,
> I can't work out how to tell thunderbird to look in all of the folders
> on an imap server (for a single account) and retrieve at least the
> fact that there is a new message. It is rather annoying that one has
> to click on the folder for it to check - with 20+ folders this becomes
> unmanageable...

Right-click on each folder, select Properties, check "Check this folder for new
message", and click OK.

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[gentoo-user] Lilo "L 80" Boot Error

2005-06-29 Thread Richard Watson
I've been struggling for days now to get my genkernel image to boot. Lilo is
reporting an error of "L 80" which is a disk timeout message. After reading
the documentation I thought the problem was solveable with:

disk = /dev/hdb
bios = 0x80

It's not ... I still get "L 80".

Detailed below is my /etc/lilo.conf. I have XP on /dev/hda (master IDE) and
Gentoo waiting to run on /dev/hdb (slave IDE). I guess if all else fails I
can create a bootable partition on /dev/hda but I am trying to avoid messing
around with my XP install.

Any help would be really appreciated
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Thanks, Richard

 contents of /etc/lilo.conf) =
# Start LILO global section
# Need to define disk geometry as hda has XP on it.
disk = /dev/hdb
bios = 0x80
lba32
# MBR to install LILO to:
boot = /dev/hdb1
map = /boot/.map

# Prompt with a 15 second timeout:
prompt
timeout=150

# Normal VGA console
# vga = normal
# VESA console with size 1024x768x16:
vga = 791

#
# End LILO global section

# Linux bootable partition config begins

image=/boot/kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r11
  label=gentoo
  read-only
  root=/dev/ram0
  append="init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hdb3 udev"
  initrd=/boot/initrd-2.6.11-gentoo-r11


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[gentoo-user] OT - imap and thunderbird

2005-06-29 Thread Antoine
Hi,
I can't work out how to tell thunderbird to look in all of the folders
on an imap server (for a single account) and retrieve at least the
fact that there is a new message. It is rather annoying that one has
to click on the folder for it to check - with 20+ folders this becomes
unmanageable...
Any pointers welcome,
Cheers
Antoine
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Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa stops working after 'emerge -uD world'

2005-06-29 Thread Bob Sanders
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 21:24:18 -0500
cothrige <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It would seem that knowing that my files would be saved
> to the archive folder I had gotten a little bold when running
> dispatch-conf. But, I copied the old file back from the archive and ran
> alsaconf again.  This time it seemed to work, though things still look
> funny. 

The old file may not be completely functional for the current alsa.  It seems
that you might just need ro re-emerge alsa-utils and run dispatch-conf, choosing
"u" to overwrite /etc/init.d/alsasound.

> I do wonder if it will work on reboot, and I don't know if I should
> run rc-update on alsasound again.  

Yes it will work as it does now.  Do a - ls -l /etc/runlevels/boot
You'll see that it's just a link that rc-update creates.

> Would that have actually have
> corrected the problem in the first place? 

No.

>  I fear that I really hate
> alsa which never seems to work right for me ever, no matter which
> distro I use or how I compile my kernels, and now with Gentoo things
> to consider I am somewhat lost.
> 

Alsa can seem difficult, but, in most cases the problem lies elsewhere. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] (A bit OT) Gentoo on a Dell OptiPlex G1

2005-06-29 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Jun 27, 2005 at 05:20:42PM -0400, Colin wrote

> Taking a guess here:
>  CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
>  CFLAGS="-O2 -march=pentium3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -fstack-protector"

   From my PIII's /etc/make.conf

CFLAGS="-O2 -march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer -mmmx -msse -mfpmath=sse"
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
MAKEOPTS="-j1"

   To confirm the mmx and sse flags, boot any linux live CD, and execute

cat /proc/cpuinfo

The "FLAGS" line should contain "mmx" and "sse".  You should also have
mmx and sse in your USE variable.

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Re: [gentoo-user] bootsplash problems

2005-06-29 Thread Zac Medico
Nick Smith wrote:
> First off, I appoligise for writing this from outlook, and thus, I don’t
> know if HTML email is turned off or on, but im having a problem I was
> hoping one of you could help me with.
> 
> 
>   *I have followed the HOWTO Framebuffer:Bootsplash:Grubsplash at
>   http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Framebuffer:Bootsplash:Grubsplash
>   perfectly, and I when I boot I get a message saying that “You passed
>   an undefined mode number” my lilo.conf is as follows:*
> 
> 
>   *boot=/dev/sda*
> 
> 
>   *prompt*
> 
> 
>   *timeout=10*
> 
> 
>   *default=gentoo_splash*
> 
> 
>   * *
> 
> 
>   *image=/boot/kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r11b*
> 
> 
>   *  label=gentoo_splash*
> 
> 
>   *  root=/dev/sda3*
> 
> 
>   *  initrd = /boot/initrd-1024x768*
> 
> 
>   *  vga = 0x317*
> 
> 
>   *  append="video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr splash=silent"*
> 
> 
>   *  read-only*
> 
> 
>   * *
> 
> 
>   *image=/boot/kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r11*
> 
> 
>   *  label=gentoo_old*
> 
> 
>   *  root=/dev/sda3*
> 
> 
>   *  read-only*
> 
> 
>   * *
> 
> 
>   *does there seem to be a problem somewhere? I do have “support for
>   video mode selection” enabled in the kernel, but that is what the
>   HOWTO says to do, why would it be undefined?*
> 
> 
>   *Thanks for any and all help*
> 
> 
>   * *
> 
> 
>   *Nick*
> 

It seems like the vesafb driver isn't working for some reason.  You have 
CONFIG_FB_VESA=y in your kernel config right?  What else to you have in the 
graphics section?  Have you tried any of the other video modes listed in 
linux/Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt?  What is the output of "dmesg | grep -i 
vesa"?

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Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild questions...

2005-06-29 Thread W.Kenworthy
revdep-rebuild sometimes tries to rebuild older packages (this is on
older long running systems) that dont exist in portage which requires
manual intervention.  Always run with -p, and run it without manually so
you can intervene when necessary.

BillK

On Thu, 2005-06-30 at 02:42 +1000, Eugene Rosenzweig wrote:
> Paul Varner wrote:
> 
> >On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 08:32 -0400, Dave Nebinger wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>So revdep-rebuild is currently running on the box but I'm wondering how
> >>often the revdep-rebuild needs to be run...
> >>
> >>Any suggestions from you folks out there in gentoo land?
> >>
> >>I'm thinking about building a cron script to run early in the morning and,
> >>if a recent emerge has taken place, run revdep-rebuild automatically.  Does
> >>this sound like a good idea or not?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >I run it automatically every morning with --pretend so that I can see
> >what it thinks needs to be rebuilt. The script I use on my gentoo boxes
> >is available at http://dev.gentoo.org/~fuzzyray/portage.cron
> >
> >That script should give you a good starting point for developing
> >something that meets your needs. It does have a few problems that I
> >haven't fixed yet. The major one being that if the emerge command is
> >unable to determine packages due to packages being masked, it isn't
> >shown in the email message.
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Does revdep-rebuild rebuild the same version of the packages that are
> >>currently installed or will it do a package update from the portage tree?
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Under normal operation, it will try to rebuild the same package that is
> >installed.  If you use the --package-names option, it will rebuild with
> >the latest version that is available.
> >
> >Regards,
> >Paul
> >  
> >
> I've just tried running revdep-rebuild after the warning that comes with 
> latest e2fstools. I had some broken dependencies but I have found that 
> revdep-rebuild would not fix all of them so you'd be running it 
> needlessly. It is definitely a tool to run with -p and then examine its 
> output first and try the files it complains about with ldd to see whats 
> missing. For example, I was getting broken deps with respect to some 
> alsa lib and I that was on my server with no sound. This didn't break 
> anything though. I installed alsa just to make it go away. Another one 
> is opera browser which comes up with broken dep on libXm.so.1 in 
> operamotifwrapper-1. Opera has openmotif dependency but openmotif doesnt 
> provide that lib, it provides libXm.so.3. So, you really have to 
> double-check the revdep-rebuild output.
> 

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Re: [gentoo-user] telnet into embedded devices

2005-06-29 Thread Paul Varner
On Thu, 2005-06-30 at 13:39 +1200, Nick Rout wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 00:59:17 + (UTC)
> James wrote:
> > 1. If this is not what's happening, what is to cause telnet to react so 
> > slowly?
> 
> probably dns - most servers do a reverse dns lookup when a client
> connects, and if the lookup does not work the timeout can be quite
> noticeably long.
> 

Based on my experience, I concur with Nick's analysis that it is a DNS
lookup timeout.

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -auDv world question

2005-06-29 Thread Paul Varner
On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 20:05 -0400, John J. Foster wrote:
> Calculating world dependencies -
> !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=sys-devel/libperl-5.8.6" have been
> masked.
> !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your
> request:
> - sys-devel/libperl-5.8.6 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)
> 
> For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page
> or
> section 2.2 "Software Availability" in the Gentoo Handbook.
> !!!(dependency required by "dev-lang/perl-5.8.6-r4" [ebuild])
> 
> Am i reading this right? A stable package has an unstable dependency !
> 
> Please let me know if you beleive this is an error in the perl ebuild.

Rerun emerge --sync and try again.  I believe you synced while it was in
the middle of being marked stable.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa stops working after 'emerge -uD world'

2005-06-29 Thread cothrige
* Norbert Kamenicky ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> cothrige wrote:
> > I just finished running 'emerge -uD world' and everything seemed to go
> > okay.  At least in the end it seemed to.  I did have some troubles
> > with spamassassin and a couple of other strange dependencies which
> > were not dealt with automatically, but google and archives of such
> > lists as this helped in those areas.  But, now I am having all sorts
> > of strange trouble with alsa.
> -snip-
> 
> I would say u forgot to inform us, that u also rebuilt kernel ...
> didn't u ?

No, actually, I didn't.  I was very happy with the kernel I compiled
with the installation and had no reason to change that.  But, at least
I may have thought of that as a problem if I had since that never
failed to kill alsaconf when I used Slackware.  As a matter of fact
alsa never really worked right for me then, but didn't work at all
after a kernel compile.  And only about half the time could I ever
correct the problem.

In any case, I think I have just solved the alsa problem, though I
wonder if I really know what I did wrong.  It would seem that my
ignorance and newbieness in matters Gentoo is to blame (Duh!).  
In order to slow down the alsaconf messages I had to compile a program
and then run it during that process.  In this way I was able to see
that alsasound had no start function.  I looked at
/etc/init.d/alsasound and saw that it was virtually blank.  It had one
line of some kind but I don't recall what it was.  
It would seem that knowing that my files would be saved
to the archive folder I had gotten a little bold when running
dispatch-conf. But, I copied the old file back from the archive and ran
alsaconf again.  This time it seemed to work, though things still look
funny.  In alsamixer there is no way to choose a record source.  It
used to have red dashes over those items which could be captured, and
when selected they told you, but now there is nothing of that sort,
and no capture control either, which it used to have.  Audacity does
act like it can record though as it gives me no errors and the record
source does offer the typical choices my card offers.  Maybe there is
just something odd in the alsamixer screen now?  Strange anyway.

I do wonder if it will work on reboot, and I don't know if I should
run rc-update on alsasound again.  Would that have actually have
corrected the problem in the first place?  I fear that I really hate
alsa which never seems to work right for me ever, no matter which
distro I use or how I compile my kernels, and now with Gentoo things
to consider I am somewhat lost.

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[gentoo-user] Failed Cache Update

2005-06-29 Thread Justin Hart
I get "Failed Cache Update" when I run emerge sync.

What is this error?  How does one go about correcting it?
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[gentoo-user] bootsplash problems

2005-06-29 Thread Nick Smith








First off, I appoligise for writing this from outlook, and
thus, I don’t know if HTML email is turned off or on, but im having a
problem I was hoping one of you could help me with.

I have followed the HOWTO Framebuffer:Bootsplash:Grubsplash
at http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Framebuffer:Bootsplash:Grubsplash
perfectly, and I when I boot I get a message saying that “You passed an
undefined mode number” my lilo.conf is as follows:

boot=/dev/sda

prompt

timeout=10

default=gentoo_splash

 

image=/boot/kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r11b

  label=gentoo_splash

  root=/dev/sda3

  initrd = /boot/initrd-1024x768

  vga = 0x317

  append="video=vesafb:ywrap,mtrr
splash=silent"

  read-only

 

image=/boot/kernel-2.6.11-gentoo-r11

  label=gentoo_old

  root=/dev/sda3

  read-only

 

does there seem to be a problem somewhere? I do have “support
for video mode selection” enabled in the kernel, but that is what the
HOWTO says to do, why would it be undefined?

Thanks for any and all help

 

Nick








Re: [gentoo-user] telnet into embedded devices

2005-06-29 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Thu, 2005-06-30 at 00:59 +, James wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I often use telnet to connect to (embedded) devices on a local network,
> devices which do not support ssh. On both Debian and Gentoo systems I 
> just delete the default route out and set a second (sub)interface on 
> the ethernet port like this:
[snip]
> My actual question may or may not be related to the use of a sub interface.
> When I telnet into the devices from a similarly setup Debian system, I get
> a very fast response. When I telnet into the devices from a gentoo system,
> it takes 30-50s (estimate) for the login prompt response. It's almost as 
> those telnet is set up to use ssh, but times out and then defaults to 
> real telnet?

Before I start, I know nothing about differences between telnet on
debian and telne on gentoo.  You may look there first to see if one does
weird things, like you say.

there are a couple of things I would to to see what's happening.
Firstly, make sure your gentoo and debian box are either exactly the
same box, or are on exactly the same switch.  You never know just what
your sysadmin has done (even if you think you know, you could be
surprised!)

Then try traceroute or something similar and see if the path to your
embedded device is the same from each box.

If not, there's your answer.  If it is the same, then I'd probably try
ethereal and capture the output to each box and compare it.  That's how
I found out ftp was trying ssl first with an embedded device that didn't
support it, before trying normal ftp.

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Re: [gentoo-user] telnet into embedded devices

2005-06-29 Thread Nick Rout

On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 00:59:17 + (UTC)
James wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I often use telnet to connect to (embedded) devices on a local network,
> devices which do not support ssh. On both Debian and Gentoo systems I 
> just delete the default route out and set a second (sub)interface on 
> the ethernet port like this:
> 
> The default setting is obtained from the /etc/conf.d/netfile:
> iface_eth0="192.168.2.23 broadcast 192.168.2.255 netmask 255.255.255.0"
> 
> So I use these commands to set up an additional interface that
> matches the defauld class C (/24) network that the device manufacturer
> sets as a default. For example a device might be given 192.168.15.1:
> 
> route delete default
> ifconfig eth0:0 inet 192.168.15.23 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 
> 192.168.15.255
> 
> ifconfig yeilds:
> eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:90:F5:2B:CB:13
>   inet addr:192.168.2.23  Bcast:192.168.2.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:590024 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:80894 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:4089 txqueuelen:1000
>   RX bytes:153811888 (146.6 Mb)  TX bytes:5882603 (5.6 Mb)
>   Interrupt:11 Base address:0x2000
> 
> eth0:0Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:90:F5:2B:CB:13
>   inet addr:192.168.15.23  Bcast:192.168.15.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
>   UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
>   RX packets:590024 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:80894 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:4089 txqueuelen:1000
>   RX bytes:153811888 (146.6 Mb)  TX bytes:5882603 (5.6 Mb)
>   Interrupt:11 Base address:0x2000
> 
> loLink encap:Local Loopback
>   inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
>   UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
>   RX packets:2673 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>   TX packets:2673 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>   collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
>   RX bytes:269579 (263.2 Kb)  TX bytes:269579 (263.2 Kb)
> 
> My actual question may or may not be related to the use of a sub interface.
> When I telnet into the devices from a similarly setup Debian system, I get
> a very fast response. When I telnet into the devices from a gentoo system,
> it takes 30-50s (estimate) for the login prompt response. It's almost as 
> those telnet is set up to use ssh, but times out and then defaults to 
> real telnet?
> 
> 1. If this is not what's happening, what is to cause telnet to react so 
> slowly?

probably dns - most servers do a reverse dns lookup when a client
connects, and if the lookup does not work the timeout can be quite
noticeably long.

> 
> 2. Regardless of what's happening, how to I fix?  When I use telnet, I
> want telnet, nice and fast, not ssh or any other protocol.
> 
> Ideas on how to fix telnet on Gentoo?

you don't need to if i am right.

> 
> James
> 
> 
> 
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[gentoo-user] telnet into embedded devices

2005-06-29 Thread James
Hello,

I often use telnet to connect to (embedded) devices on a local network,
devices which do not support ssh. On both Debian and Gentoo systems I 
just delete the default route out and set a second (sub)interface on 
the ethernet port like this:

The default setting is obtained from the /etc/conf.d/netfile:
iface_eth0="192.168.2.23 broadcast 192.168.2.255 netmask 255.255.255.0"

So I use these commands to set up an additional interface that
matches the defauld class C (/24) network that the device manufacturer
sets as a default. For example a device might be given 192.168.15.1:

route delete default
ifconfig eth0:0 inet 192.168.15.23 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 
192.168.15.255

ifconfig yeilds:
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:90:F5:2B:CB:13
  inet addr:192.168.2.23  Bcast:192.168.2.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:590024 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:80894 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:4089 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:153811888 (146.6 Mb)  TX bytes:5882603 (5.6 Mb)
  Interrupt:11 Base address:0x2000

eth0:0Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:90:F5:2B:CB:13
  inet addr:192.168.15.23  Bcast:192.168.15.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:590024 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:80894 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:4089 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:153811888 (146.6 Mb)  TX bytes:5882603 (5.6 Mb)
  Interrupt:11 Base address:0x2000

loLink encap:Local Loopback
  inet addr:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
  UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:2673 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:2673 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:269579 (263.2 Kb)  TX bytes:269579 (263.2 Kb)

My actual question may or may not be related to the use of a sub interface.
When I telnet into the devices from a similarly setup Debian system, I get
a very fast response. When I telnet into the devices from a gentoo system,
it takes 30-50s (estimate) for the login prompt response. It's almost as 
those telnet is set up to use ssh, but times out and then defaults to 
real telnet?

1. If this is not what's happening, what is to cause telnet to react so 
slowly?

2. Regardless of what's happening, how to I fix?  When I use telnet, I
want telnet, nice and fast, not ssh or any other protocol.

Ideas on how to fix telnet on Gentoo?

James



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Re: [gentoo-user] Copy portage tree

2005-06-29 Thread Sean Higgins
On Tuesday 28 June 2005 05:49 pm, Anthony E. Caudel wrote:
> I have one computer that currently does not have internet access.  Can I
> copy a freshly sync'ed portage tree (/usr/portage/*) from another
> computer to this one?  Or does the tree have some sort of per-computer
> dependencies (use-flags, etc.)?

Hello Tony,

I do this all the time.  I use rsync to do it for me, the command I use is:

rsync -auvz -e ssh --delete /usr/portage/ calvin.systura.home:/usr/portage/

  Sean


>
> Tony
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> temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
>-- Benjamin Franklin

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge Amarok

2005-06-29 Thread Paul Nolan
I would /really/ recommend switching to the amarok-svn ebuild (it's not an 
official package and I can't remember where I got it - try google). I'm not 
usually one for running CVS/SVN software (some programs segfault enough when 
they're supposedly stable), but I made an exception for this and wasn't 
disappointed (if anything, it's more stable than the 1.2.* versions and has a 
bunch of new features)

Paul


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[gentoo-user] Re: OpenOffice2.0 Install

2005-06-29 Thread James
Zac Medico  gmail.com> writes:


> > So if I do this will I have both 1.1.4 (which is currently installed) and
> > 1.9.109 or just the later?

> > What I'm concerned with is that I may need both. I can also put the 1.9.109
> > on another machine until it becomes more stable. I went to quite a lot of
> > trouble to set up an auto oulining template that may not work in 1.9.109.

> Make a tbz2 package of openoffice-1.1.4-r1 in case you want it back later.

> quickpkg "=app-office/openoffice-1.1.4-r1"
> emerge unmerge openoffice
> echo ">=app-office/openoffice-bin-1.9.87" >> /etc/portage/package.unmask
> echo "app-office/openoffice-bin ~*" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
> emerge openoffice-bin

> When you are using openoffice-bin-1.9, save your files in openoffice 1.0 file
formats so that you can still
> open them if you need to go back.  If you need to go back:

> emerge unmerge openoffice-bin
> emerge --usepkgonly openoffice

Well I just decided to run with the newer package a week or 2 on another system.
So I did this (part of what you suggested):

 emerge unmerge openoffice
 echo ">=app-office/openoffice-bin-1.9.87" >> /etc/portage/package.unmask
 echo "app-office/openoffice-bin ~*" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
 emerge openoffice-bin


Works like a charm!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Would zapping USE in make.defaults hurt anything?

2005-06-29 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Jun 28, 2005 at 02:29:38PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote

> Then put USE="-* a b c" in make.conf.

  Does that do what it looks like?  Thanks very much for that info.  It
appears to be *EXACTLY* what I want.  I'll try to sit down and organize
a bugzilla entry and ask that the documentation be updated accordingly.

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[gentoo-user] emerge -auDv world question

2005-06-29 Thread John J. Foster
Good evening,

This evening I ran across something I have have not seen in my long
experience with Gentoo (about 2 months now). I just did an

# emerge --sync
# emerge -auDv world

which returned

Calculating world dependencies -
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ">=sys-devel/libperl-5.8.6" have been
masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your
request:
- sys-devel/libperl-5.8.6 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)

For more information, see MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page
or
section 2.2 "Software Availability" in the Gentoo Handbook.
!!!(dependency required by "dev-lang/perl-5.8.6-r4" [ebuild])

Am i reading this right? A stable package has an unstable dependency !

Please let me know if you beleive this is an error in the perl ebuild.

Thanks,
John

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Re: [gentoo-user] No Sound!!!

2005-06-29 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.

Michael Sullivan wrote:

On Tue, 2005-06-28 at 21:04 -0700, Peter Gordon wrote:


Did you remember to add ALSA_CARDS="ens1371" to your /etc/make.conf and
emerge alsa-driver? (You'll need to make sure that your /usr/src/linux
symlink is correct.)



I attempted (several times) to emerge alsa-driver. The ouput is
consistent:

 * Could not find a usable .config in the kernel source directory.
 * Please ensure that /usr/src/linux points to a configured set of Linux
sources.

My kernel symlink is correct:

baby src # ls -l
total 16
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root root23 Jun 26 17:20 linux ->
linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r11
drwxr-xr-x  18 root root  4096 Jun 28 19:43 linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r11
-rw-r--r--   1 root root 10005 Jun 28 19:42
linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r11.config.gz


WTF is linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r11.config.gz?

If it is your kernel config try this (all one line):

[ -f /usr/src/linux/.config ] || gunzip -c 
/usr/src/linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r11.config.gz > 
/usr/src/linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r11/.config


and then retry the ALSA emerge.

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Re: [gentoo-user] KDE font size

2005-06-29 Thread Zac Medico
Martins Steinbergs wrote:
> hi
> 
> i'm curious, every other time i boot, GDM and KDE are with bigger fonts. what 
> part is responsible for it? Xorg.0.log has only this:
> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/, removing 
> from list!
> SetClientVersion: 0 8
> 
> 
> Martins

Maybe it's your dpi setting?  You can use "xdpyinfo | grep resolution" to see 
what dpi X is using.  You can control dpi with the X -dpi option or the 
DisplaySize in xorg.conf.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OpenOffice2.0 Install

2005-06-29 Thread Zac Medico
James wrote:
> I have:
> 
> app-office/openoffice
>   Latest version available: 1.1.4-r1
>   Latest version installed: 1.1.4-r1
> 
> So if I do this will I have both 1.1.4 (which is currently installed) and
> 1.9.109 or just the later?
> 
> What I'm concerned with is that I may need both. I can also put the 1.9.109
> on another machine until it becomes more stable. I went to quite a lot of
> trouble to set up an auto oulining template that may not work in 1.9.109.
> 
> (But I do need a newer version of ooffice)
> Advice on this upgrade? 
> 
> James
> 

Make a tbz2 package of openoffice-1.1.4-r1 in case you want it back later.

quickpkg "=app-office/openoffice-1.1.4-r1"
emerge unmerge openoffice
echo ">=app-office/openoffice-bin-1.9.87" >> /etc/portage/package.unmask
echo "app-office/openoffice-bin ~*" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
emerge openoffice-bin

When you are using openoffice-bin-1.9, save your files in openoffice 1.0 file 
formats so that you can still open them if you need to go back.  If you need to 
go back:

emerge unmerge openoffice-bin
emerge --usepkgonly openoffice

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Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver

2005-06-29 Thread Rafael Fernández López
El Jueves 30 Junio 2005 00:20, XXOmega21XX escribió:
> --- Benjamin Fritzsche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Friday 28 January 2005 03:19, Rui Silva wrote:
> > > hello ppl
> > >
> > > i'm thinking on buying a new notebook computer.
> > >
> > > the model i'm interested has a ATI 9700 128Mb
> >
> > graphic card. R300 based
> >
> > > How are the drivers for this graphic card??
> > >
> > > Is ATI LInux driver good enough?? i'm not going to
> >
> > play games. just
> >
> > > the aplications commonly used.
> > >
> > > What about video out?? does it work??
> > >
> > > the instalation is smooth or not??
> > >
> > > share your experiences please, help me decide
> >
> > For Desktop Use you´ll be perfectly happy with Xorg
> > radeon drivers. They work
> > perfectly here on an Inspiron 8600 (Radeon 9600 Pro
> > Turbo, which is the same
> > chip with a lower frequency AFAIK).
> >
> > You´ll get: Video-Out support (Including Clone,
> > Xinerama and ext. only),
> > Dynamic Clock frequency, Working Hibernate/Suspend
> > to Ram (With
> > hibernate-script and vbetool).
> >
> > Basically everything works except DRI and TV-Out.
> > (Which work with the
> > ATI-Drivers).
> >
> > Feel free to contact me if you run into troubles.
> > I´ll happily share my
> > xorg.conf.
> >
> > Benny
> >
> >
> >
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>
> Hi. I have a similar question.
> My Laptop (Toshiba Satellite A70)
> does have SVideo Out, and I really need that to work.
> I saw on the ATI site that their propriatary Linux
> drivers were not for notebooks. Is that true, and
> is there an extra package (open source) I could
> emerge for Open Source support on SVideo?
> For the record, its an ATI Mobility Radeon 9000.
>
> Thanks!!!
>
>
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Well, I do own a Fujitsu-Siemens AMILO with ATI RADEON 9700 and IT DOES WORK 
PERFECTLY with ati-drivers, so I think that it works with laptops...

Bye.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Ati Linux Proprietary Driver

2005-06-29 Thread ««Omega21»»

--- Benjamin Fritzsche <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Friday 28 January 2005 03:19, Rui Silva wrote:
> > hello ppl
> >
> > i'm thinking on buying a new notebook computer.
> >
> > the model i'm interested has a ATI 9700 128Mb
> graphic card. R300 based
> >
> > How are the drivers for this graphic card??
> >
> > Is ATI LInux driver good enough?? i'm not going to
> play games. just
> > the aplications commonly used.
> >
> > What about video out?? does it work??
> >
> > the instalation is smooth or not??
> >
> > share your experiences please, help me decide
> 
> For Desktop Use you´ll be perfectly happy with Xorg
> radeon drivers. They work 
> perfectly here on an Inspiron 8600 (Radeon 9600 Pro
> Turbo, which is the same 
> chip with a lower frequency AFAIK).
> 
> You´ll get: Video-Out support (Including Clone,
> Xinerama and ext. only), 
> Dynamic Clock frequency, Working Hibernate/Suspend
> to Ram (With 
> hibernate-script and vbetool).
> 
> Basically everything works except DRI and TV-Out.
> (Which work with the 
> ATI-Drivers).
> 
> Feel free to contact me if you run into troubles.
> I´ll happily share my 
> xorg.conf.
> 
> Benny
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
Hi. I have a similar question.
My Laptop (Toshiba Satellite A70)
does have SVideo Out, and I really need that to work.
I saw on the ATI site that their propriatary Linux
drivers were not for notebooks. Is that true, and 
is there an extra package (open source) I could
emerge for Open Source support on SVideo?
For the record, its an ATI Mobility Radeon 9000.

Thanks!!!


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Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update

2005-06-29 Thread maxim wexler

> that before jumping on people trying to help.
> 

Smart Alec! "Help" my eye!



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Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update

2005-06-29 Thread Richard Fish


maxim wexler wrote:

>>Maxim, if you want the system to boot from the hard
>>disk, I really think
>>you have no choice but to repartition and re-install
>>the system, with
>>boot as the first partition.
>>
>>
>
>On the Sempron there are two HDs, the 120G, pri-mast
>and a 3.5G(fat32) as a pri-slave. LBA is set to auto
>in the BIOS for both drives but it only appears "on"
>in the POST screen for the 3.5G. I put the 120G as
>pri-slave in the K6 box along w/ a 10G
>master(gentoo-2004.3) and it does come up as "on" for
>both of them albeit only 65G of the 120G available is
>reported, probably because of the more
>primitive(c.2000) BIOS. So there must be a problem w/
>the Asus K8N-E(Sempron box) BIOS. I updated it using
>the tool that came w/ the support CD but it only made
>matters worse: Not only does LBA remain "off" for the
>120G, XP Pro won't boot, even though the boot.ini
>console opens. I've contacted Asus but they haven't
>replied yet. I bought it two months ago; maybe they'll
>let me have a new one. If LBA were "on" that would
>solve my problem wouldn't it?
>  
>

Ok, I did some more checking and reading about the various interfaces
for accessing disk drives.  If you have some time, take a look at:

http://www.storagereview.com/guide2000/ref/hdd/hist.html

In ancient times, we were limited to ~512MB addressable through the BIOS
"int13h" instructions, with 1024 cylinders, 16 heads, and 63
sectors/track.  LBA translation got us to ~8.2GB addressable with 1024
cylinders, 255 heads, and 63 sectors/track.  The limit with the "int 13h
extensions" interface is some ridiculously large value...  Of course I
am ignoring pre-historic times when the disk geometry actually did
reflect the physical number heads and cylinders in the drive.

So basically, if the BIOS, disk, and controller all support Int13h
extensions, and LBA mode is enabled, there should be no problem loading
the stage2 or kernel from anywhere on that disk.  So yes, I believe that
if you can get LBA mode to be enabled, you should be able to boot.

But getting to that point may involve rebuilding the system anyway.  I
found an interesting note in the user manual for the K8N-E.  It says:



It said that LBA mode will be disabled if the disk was "formatted"
without LBA being enabled.  It was light on the details, but I assume
that really means "partitioned" with 16 heads instead of 255.



>Now, the Asus brd does have raid capability. Would
>that be a way out of this morass? How does raid work?
>  
>

You can try plugging the disk into the controller, but ignore the RAID
functionalities.  This is usually called "JBOD" (just a bunch of disks)
mode.  But I think you still have the same fundamental problem...how to
get LBA mode enabled.

>I've never used it before. Failing that is there a way
>to copy non-destructively the partition containing
>WinXP and move it up enough to make room for a boot
>partition at /dev/hda1?
>  
>

PartitionMagic is the best for this, but at $70 it is a bit pricey. 
There may be free programs to do this, but I have no experience with them.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] Simple question DVD

2005-06-29 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
B.S wrote:
> Ok  so here is my Problem.  I install my gentoo box with a stage3.
> Installing system with a "CDburner/dvdreader" drive.  Down the road i
> decide to put in a DVD-Burner. Swaping the physical drives out with out
> changing any thing.  My question is can i change the entry in the fstab
> and symbolic links to point to a  DVD device and not a cdrom so as to be
> able to use DVDrip and some other dvd options "mplayer" "xine"?
> 
> I have googled this alot and searched the  forumn but most are to add a
> dvd drive to a already equipt cdburner or just cd system?
> 
> Below are a few outputs
> 
> ls - la /mnt/cdrom
> 
> drwx--  2 root root 4096 Jun  7 18:20 .
> drwxr-xr-x  8 root root 4096 Jun  7 18:24 ..
> -rw-rw-rw-  1 root root0 Apr 22 03:58 .keep
> -rw-r--r--  1 root root  229 Jun  7 18:20 CD-ROM Device
> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   11 Feb 14 16:07 cdrom -> /dev/cdrom/
> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root root8 May 13 19:25 hdd -> /dev/hdd
> 
> 
> ls -la /dev/hdd
> lr-xr-xr-x  1 root root 30 Jun 25 20:24 /dev/hdd ->
> ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0/cd
> 
> 
> ls -la /dev/dvd
> lr-xr-xr-x  1 root root 3 Jun 25 20:24 /dev/dvd -> hdd
> 
> 
> /etc/fstab
>  NOTE: If your BOOT partition is ReiserFS, add the notail option to
> opts.
> /dev/hda1   /boot   ext2noauto,noatime
> 1 1
> /dev/hda5   /   ext3noatime
> 0 0
> /dev/hda6   noneswapsw
> 0 0
> /dev/hdd/mnt/cdrom  iso9660 noauto,ro,users
> 0 0
> /dev/hdd/mnt/dvdiso9660 noauto,ro,users
> 0 0
> /dev/hde6   /usr/portageext3noatime
> 0 0
> /dev/hdc2   /home   ext3noatime
> 0 0
> /dev/hde5   /tmpext3noatime
> 0 0
> /dev/hdc1   /mnt/store  ext3noatime
> 0 0
> /dev/hdf1   /mnt/extra  ext3noatime
> 0 0
> /dev/hdf5   /mnt/closet ext3noatime
> 0 0
> #/dev/fd0   /mnt/floppy autonoauto
> 0 0
> 

It seems u misunderstood some things completely :-).
Symlink from /mnt dir to a node seems crazy for me.
On unix/linux system "/mnt" directory (usually) contains "mount points",
i.e. empty directories (but not symlinks to nodes) to which u can mount
filesystems accessible via "node" files from /dev dir. RTFM mount.

Try this:
# rm  /mnt/cdrom
# mkdir /mnt/cdrom
# mount /dev/hdd /mnt/cdrom

To your question: "... can i change the entry in the fstab
and symbolic links to point to a  DVD device and not a cdrom ..."

Yes, u can change symlink to DVD, but (usually) it's not necessary to
modify /etc/fstab, but if u like to use it (read files), u have to
mount it ...

HTH noro

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Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa stops working after 'emerge -uD world'

2005-06-29 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
cothrige wrote:
> I just finished running 'emerge -uD world' and everything seemed to go
> okay.  At least in the end it seemed to.  I did have some troubles
> with spamassassin and a couple of other strange dependencies which
> were not dealt with automatically, but google and archives of such
> lists as this helped in those areas.  But, now I am having all sorts
> of strange trouble with alsa.
-snip-

I would say u forgot to inform us, that u also rebuilt kernel ...
didn't u ?

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[gentoo-user] Re: OpenOffice2.0 Install

2005-06-29 Thread James
Rumen Yotov  dir.bg> writes:

> openoffice-bin-1.9.109 is in portage only being in testing (~x86).
> To emerge it do: #echo "app-office/openoffice-bin ~x86" >>
> /etc/portage/package.keywords.
> Then 'emerge openoffice-bin -av' to emerge it. Haven't checked if it's
> in rpm-format.

I have:

app-office/openoffice
  Latest version available: 1.1.4-r1
  Latest version installed: 1.1.4-r1

So if I do this will I have both 1.1.4 (which is currently installed) and
1.9.109 or just the later?

What I'm concerned with is that I may need both. I can also put the 1.9.109
on another machine until it becomes more stable. I went to quite a lot of
trouble to set up an auto oulining template that may not work in 1.9.109.

(But I do need a newer version of ooffice)
Advice on this upgrade? 

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Re: [gentoo-user] konsole font

2005-06-29 Thread q-parser

Philip Webb wrote:


050628 q-parser wrote:
 


I've emerged kde-3.4.1 recently & the font in Konsole is different.
How do I set it back to normal ?
   



First try the Konsole 'settings' menu -> 'font' -> 'custom',
then try selecting 'Fixed (gnu) regular 13'.  That might help.

 


Yes, that's it. Thanks a lot.
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Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update

2005-06-29 Thread A. Khattri
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, maxim wexler wrote:

> > I imagine any CD included with a motherboard is old
> > before it hits the
> > shelves...
>
> So what? The "tool" will still work. Kindly read what
> I wrote!

I *did* read what you wrote.

My point was if there was an update on the CD it would be old.

You wrote:

"As it happens, an attempt to update the BIOS on my Asus K8N-E-deluxe
using the utility included in the mobo support CD,"

You did not write something like:

"As it happens, an attempt to update the BIOS (downloading the latest
one from the Asus web site) on my K8N-E-deluxe using the utility included
in the mobo support CD,"

Sorry to split fine hairs with an enormous axe but you might think about
that before jumping on people trying to help.



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[gentoo-user] KDE font size

2005-06-29 Thread Martins Steinbergs
hi

i'm curious, every other time i boot, GDM and KDE are with bigger fonts. what 
part is responsible for it? Xorg.0.log has only this:
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/, removing 
from list!
SetClientVersion: 0 8


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Re: [gentoo-user] Connect to a remote server with a modem

2005-06-29 Thread A. Khattri
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Norbert Kamenicky wrote:

> next notify "init" process about changes:
> # init q

Or:

# telinit q


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Re: [gentoo-user] Connect to a remote server with a modem

2005-06-29 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
Patrick Marquetecken wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I going to maintain a Gentoo server in another country, normal i'm going
> to connect with the internet, but if something is wrong i'm thinking to
> connect a modem to the machine.
> What do i need of software so i can connect with a another machine to this
> machine over a telephone line?
> The machine has no X installed.
> 
> TIA
> Patrick
> 

Just connect a modems to serial ports on both sides and start one
of "getty" proceses (agetty, mgetty ... the last is recommended)
on server.

To do that, put something like this to /etc/inittab:
m1:12345:respawn:/usr/sbin/mgetty -x1 -n1 ttyS0

next notify "init" process about changes:
# init q

On client side start "minicom", setup modem and dial servers
number (using AT-commands).

If everything done properly, u see "login" prompt on the screen.

In next u can set up "PPP" demons, so u can do everythink
in the same way as via internet.

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[gentoo-user] PCI-PCI bridge /proc/bus/pci data question

2005-06-29 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   What puts data into /proc/bus/pci? 

   We're looking at a little issue this morning with my PVR devices in
a Gentoo machine. In this machine we see that the PCI config space is
correctly setup following a cold boot, but is set up incorrectly after
a warm boot. Note that these devices are behind a PCI bridge (on bus
1, not bus 0) which requires a bit different access to config space as
per the PCI bridge spec. (Type 2 vs. Type 1) Due to these problems
these cards only function correctly after a cold boot.

   Could this be kernel related? Driver related? I'm running
2.6.11-gentoo-r11 on this machine.

   Here's what we see for a warm boot vs. a cold boot. Note that
location 2F is different between the working cold boot and the failing
warm boot:

--- COLD BOOT ---
cat /proc/bus/pci/01/01.0 | od -Ax -t x1
00 44 44 16 00 06 00 10 02 01 00 00 04 08 40 00 00
10 08 00 00 f0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 70 00 03 80
30 00 00 00 00 44 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 05 01 80 08
cat /proc/bus/pci/01/02.0 | od -Ax -t x1
00 44 44 16 00 06 00 10 02 01 00 00 04 08 40 00 00
10 08 00 00 f4 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 70 00 09 40
30 00 00 00 00 44 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 01 80 08

--- WARM BOOT ---
cat /proc/bus/pci/01/01.0 | od -Ax -t x1
00 44 44 16 00 06 00 10 02 01 00 00 04 08 40 00 00
10 08 00 00 f0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 70 00 03 00
30 00 00 00 00 44 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 05 01 80 08
cat /proc/bus/pci/01/02.0 | od -Ax -t x1
00 44 44 16 00 06 00 10 02 01 00 00 04 08 40 00 00
10 08 00 00 f4 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 70 00 09 00
30 00 00 00 00 44 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 01 80 08

   Since I don't know what puts this data into /proc I have no idea
where to look for a solution. Does a part of the kernel do this, first
reading the data from the chips and placing a copy in /proc? Or does
the driver for the device do this?

   The address 2C is the subsystem Vendor ID which might be written by
the driver. It appears that only the last byte of the Subsysem Vendor
ID is wrong.

   Thanks in advance for any ideas.

Cheers,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] Preventing installation of evolution and others

2005-06-29 Thread Mark Knecht
On 6/29/05, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:50:24 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> 

> > Being a user type I think it's better for me to
> > just use gnome-light and add what I want when I think I need it.
> 
> The question was how to avoid doing that. A custom meta ebuild is one
> answer.
> 

Cool. Thanks. I'll investigate that option more.

cheers,
Mark

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Re: [gentoo-user] Preventing installation of evolution and others

2005-06-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:50:24 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:

> > Copy the gnome ebuild to something like mygnome and remove the
> > unwanted dependencies.
 
> Right. I've resisted that option as I don't want to be an ebuild
> maintainer of any sort.

It's not really an ebuild, a meta ebuild is just a list of packages you
want installed, it doesn't install anything itself.

> Presuming I did that wouldn't I also have to pay attention to new
> versions of Gnome coming out and update my ebuild over time?

No, because emerge --deep --update world will always go for the newest
version of any dependencies.

> If new
> dependencies were added for Gnome-2.12 I'd have to add or remove
> things in my ebuild.

Not really, because you would only add things you want to add. If a new
program was added to GNOME and you didn't want to use it, you would have
to do nothing.

> Being a user type I think it's better for me to
> just use gnome-light and add what I want when I think I need it.

The question was how to avoid doing that. A custom meta ebuild is one
answer.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Preventing installation of evolution and others

2005-06-29 Thread Mark Knecht
On 6/29/05, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:52:49 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
> 
> > -n is cool but I think the interestign question is whether there would
> > be value in emerge being able to do something like "emerge gnome but
> > leave out Evolution". To get what I wanted here I've emerged
> > gnome-light and then added about 5 or 6 packages by hand. Not a big
> > deal but it would be nice to be able to get all of Gnome and just
> > leave out the parts my family won't be using on their machines.
> 
> Copy the gnome ebuild to something like mygnome and remove the unwanted
> dependencies.
> 

Right. I've resisted that option as I don't want to be an ebuild
maintainer of any sort.

Presuming I did that wouldn't I also have to pay attention to new
versions of Gnome coming out and update my ebuild over time? If new
dependencies were added for Gnome-2.12 I'd have to add or remove
things in my ebuild. Being a user type I think it's better for me to
just use gnome-light and add what I want when I think I need it.

Thanks,
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[gentoo-user] Simple question DVD

2005-06-29 Thread B.S
Ok  so here is my Problem.  I install my gentoo box with a stage3.
Installing system with a "CDburner/dvdreader" drive.  Down the road i
decide to put in a DVD-Burner. Swaping the physical drives out with out
changing any thing.  My question is can i change the entry in the fstab
and symbolic links to point to a  DVD device and not a cdrom so as to be
able to use DVDrip and some other dvd options "mplayer" "xine"?

I have googled this alot and searched the  forumn but most are to add a
dvd drive to a already equipt cdburner or just cd system?

Below are a few outputs

ls - la /mnt/cdrom

drwx--  2 root root 4096 Jun  7 18:20 .
drwxr-xr-x  8 root root 4096 Jun  7 18:24 ..
-rw-rw-rw-  1 root root0 Apr 22 03:58 .keep
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  229 Jun  7 18:20 CD-ROM Device
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   11 Feb 14 16:07 cdrom -> /dev/cdrom/
lrwxr-xr-x  1 root root8 May 13 19:25 hdd -> /dev/hdd


ls -la /dev/hdd
lr-xr-xr-x  1 root root 30 Jun 25 20:24 /dev/hdd ->
ide/host0/bus1/target1/lun0/cd


ls -la /dev/dvd
lr-xr-xr-x  1 root root 3 Jun 25 20:24 /dev/dvd -> hdd


/etc/fstab
 NOTE: If your BOOT partition is ReiserFS, add the notail option to
opts.
/dev/hda1   /boot   ext2noauto,noatime
1 1
/dev/hda5   /   ext3noatime
0 0
/dev/hda6   noneswapsw
0 0
/dev/hdd/mnt/cdrom  iso9660 noauto,ro,users
0 0
/dev/hdd/mnt/dvdiso9660 noauto,ro,users
0 0
/dev/hde6   /usr/portageext3noatime
0 0
/dev/hdc2   /home   ext3noatime
0 0
/dev/hde5   /tmpext3noatime
0 0
/dev/hdc1   /mnt/store  ext3noatime
0 0
/dev/hdf1   /mnt/extra  ext3noatime
0 0
/dev/hdf5   /mnt/closet ext3noatime
0 0
#/dev/fd0   /mnt/floppy autonoauto
0 0




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Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild questions...

2005-06-29 Thread Eugene Rosenzweig

Paul Varner wrote:


On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 08:32 -0400, Dave Nebinger wrote:
 


So revdep-rebuild is currently running on the box but I'm wondering how
often the revdep-rebuild needs to be run...

Any suggestions from you folks out there in gentoo land?

I'm thinking about building a cron script to run early in the morning and,
if a recent emerge has taken place, run revdep-rebuild automatically.  Does
this sound like a good idea or not?

   



I run it automatically every morning with --pretend so that I can see
what it thinks needs to be rebuilt. The script I use on my gentoo boxes
is available at http://dev.gentoo.org/~fuzzyray/portage.cron

That script should give you a good starting point for developing
something that meets your needs. It does have a few problems that I
haven't fixed yet. The major one being that if the emerge command is
unable to determine packages due to packages being masked, it isn't
shown in the email message.

 


Does revdep-rebuild rebuild the same version of the packages that are
currently installed or will it do a package update from the portage tree?
   



Under normal operation, it will try to rebuild the same package that is
installed.  If you use the --package-names option, it will rebuild with
the latest version that is available.

Regards,
Paul
 

I've just tried running revdep-rebuild after the warning that comes with 
latest e2fstools. I had some broken dependencies but I have found that 
revdep-rebuild would not fix all of them so you'd be running it 
needlessly. It is definitely a tool to run with -p and then examine its 
output first and try the files it complains about with ldd to see whats 
missing. For example, I was getting broken deps with respect to some 
alsa lib and I that was on my server with no sound. This didn't break 
anything though. I installed alsa just to make it go away. Another one 
is opera browser which comes up with broken dep on libXm.so.1 in 
operamotifwrapper-1. Opera has openmotif dependency but openmotif doesnt 
provide that lib, it provides libXm.so.3. So, you really have to 
double-check the revdep-rebuild output.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Another question on mailing cron-job output

2005-06-29 Thread Myk Taylor
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This sounds perfectly reasonable.  cron mails you and output the command
sends to stdout, so yes, redirecting its output to a file would also
prevent cron's email.  the crontab lines would look something like:

0 * * * * command > /dev/null && echo "commandTitle" >> done_deals.txt
1 3 * * * cat done_deals.txt && rm done_deals.txt

man bash for more info on commandline syntax.  you could get even
sneakier with an 'if' statement (or a combination of && and ||),
outputting different messages for success and failure of the cron job.

compiling successful jobs into a list can be useful, but the
modifications to cron to get it done are pretty minimal--I doubt there's
much call for an external tool in this case.  the default behavior for
cron accomplishes something functionally equivalent anyway: it informs
you by mail if a job fails.  So you'd still know (by process of
elimination) which jobs succeeded and which failed.

- --myk

Holly Bostick wrote:
> If I:
> 
> Changed the individual job that I don't want mailed, but want
> notification of to send it's output to /dev/null (is it only /dev/null,
> or will cron still mail me if I output to a text file instead?) *and
> then to* echo the name of the job to (let's say) done_deals.txt after
> the job completed, and then
> 
> Made a new cron job that runs last in that time period which sent me the
> output of cat done_deals.txt (which would hopefully contain the names of
> all the jobs that completed, but whose actual output was sent to
> /dev/null or whatever)
> 
> would that work?
> 
> It sounds reasonable, although I don't know how to do it (I am so not a
> command-line jockey), and it also sounds easily repeatable (for cron
> jobs of all time periods, or if new jobs are added to any time period),
> which supports it being doable.
> 
> Does this sound flakey? Does this sound useful? And if it does sound
> useful, is there any tool that would allow me to create a more global
> setup in case I wanted to provide this solution to others (i.e. post it
> on the forums as some kind of script, or package it in some way for
> Bugzilla)?
> 
> Holly
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[gentoo-user] Alsa stops working after 'emerge -uD world'

2005-06-29 Thread cothrige
I just finished running 'emerge -uD world' and everything seemed to go
okay.  At least in the end it seemed to.  I did have some troubles
with spamassassin and a couple of other strange dependencies which
were not dealt with automatically, but google and archives of such
lists as this helped in those areas.  But, now I am having all sorts
of strange trouble with alsa.

When I rebooted I found that my old alsa setup was not working.  There
was nothing in dmesg about alsa but I saw an alsasound error zoom by
on bootup.  I couldn't read it unfortunately.  So I ran alsaconf again
figuring that would take care of things but it did not.  I got the
expected offer of ens1371 but then I was asked if I wanted to adjust
/etc/modules.d/alsa or such but not with the correct module,
snd-ens1371, but instead something like snd-*** and liblow.  It then
shot up a brief error, too fast to read again, and then exited.  No
alsamixer of course.

It now does not give me this, or I would give a more exact quote, but
it still gives an error and offers no sound.  I can modprobe for
snd-ens1371 and adjust the mixer manually, but I cannot get any sound
to work at boot and am not sure where to begin.  I tried editing the
/etc/modules.d/alsa file manually but that did not help.

Any ideas?  What am I missing?

Thanks in advance,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Preventing installation of evolution and others

2005-06-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:52:49 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:

> -n is cool but I think the interestign question is whether there would
> be value in emerge being able to do something like "emerge gnome but
> leave out Evolution". To get what I wanted here I've emerged
> gnome-light and then added about 5 or 6 packages by hand. Not a big
> deal but it would be nice to be able to get all of Gnome and just
> leave out the parts my family won't be using on their machines.

Copy the gnome ebuild to something like mygnome and remove the unwanted
dependencies.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Preventing installation of evolution and others

2005-06-29 Thread Mark Knecht
On 6/29/05, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:27:21 +0300 (EEST), Tero Grundström wrote:
> 
> > > If you want to keep them, you can re-emerge them alone, so they will
> > > be put in your world file, and thus normally updateable.
> >
> > Faster way:
> >
> > echo category/package >> /var/lib/portage/world
> 
> or emerge -n package
> 
-n is cool but I think the interestign question is whether there would
be value in emerge being able to do something like "emerge gnome but
leave out Evolution". To get what I wanted here I've emerged
gnome-light and then added about 5 or 6 packages by hand. Not a big
deal but it would be nice to be able to get all of Gnome and just
leave out the parts my family won't be using on their machines.

Thanks,
Mark converting son's FC2 box to Gentoo Knecht

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Re: [gentoo-user] Preventing installation of evolution and others

2005-06-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:27:21 +0300 (EEST), Tero Grundström wrote:

> > If you want to keep them, you can re-emerge them alone, so they will
> > be put in your world file, and thus normally updateable.
> 
> Faster way:
> 
> echo category/package >> /var/lib/portage/world

or emerge -n package


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Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild questions...

2005-06-29 Thread Paul Varner
On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 08:32 -0400, Dave Nebinger wrote:
> So revdep-rebuild is currently running on the box but I'm wondering how
> often the revdep-rebuild needs to be run...
> 
> Any suggestions from you folks out there in gentoo land?
> 
> I'm thinking about building a cron script to run early in the morning and,
> if a recent emerge has taken place, run revdep-rebuild automatically.  Does
> this sound like a good idea or not?
> 

I run it automatically every morning with --pretend so that I can see
what it thinks needs to be rebuilt. The script I use on my gentoo boxes
is available at http://dev.gentoo.org/~fuzzyray/portage.cron

That script should give you a good starting point for developing
something that meets your needs. It does have a few problems that I
haven't fixed yet. The major one being that if the emerge command is
unable to determine packages due to packages being masked, it isn't
shown in the email message.

> Does revdep-rebuild rebuild the same version of the packages that are
> currently installed or will it do a package update from the portage tree?

Under normal operation, it will try to rebuild the same package that is
installed.  If you use the --package-names option, it will rebuild with
the latest version that is available.

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Another question on mailing cron-job output

2005-06-29 Thread Holly Bostick
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef:
> hello,
> 
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 03:42:08PM +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:
> 
>>Hey, list,
> 
>  
> 
>>Alternatively, since the output cron jobs are being mailed via a mail -s
>>command in the scripts themselves, can I/should I just put a dummy user
>>in cron's 'normal' mailto slot, so that the "other" mail essentially
>>goes to /dev/null?
>>
>>It's not a big problem now, but I can see how, as I learn more about
>>cron and add more jobs for the daemon to run, it could get to be.
>>
>>What I'd *really* like is the output from the jobs that I've set to mail
>>me output, and a summary of names of any other jobs that ran
>>successfully, just so I know that they ran successfully. But I don't
>>think cron does that... does it?
>>
> 
> the only thing i know is to put all the output of the cronjob you won't
> have an email to /dev/null
> for example:
> 3 4 * * * /usr/bin/ls /tmp > /dev/null
> 
> because auf cron only send's emails when it gets output you will never
> get an email anymore.

Oh, thanks, now I've learned something -- cron only emails when it gets
output. I suppose that makes perfect sense when you think about it, but
being new to this, I didn't really know how to think about it in the
first place :-) .

> 
> But as you ask for an notification i don't know just one way.
> do the task in an extra script an filter there the output, so that the
> cron daemon only gets the output u wan't to have emailed.
> that's why programs often have the -q --quiet option which only prints
> errors.

Thanks again... this gives me an idea. One that I don't know how to
implement, of course, but that seems like it ought to be doable with the
tools I already know of (but don't know how to use properly).

But maybe someone who does can tell me if I'm nuts or not.


If I:

Changed the individual job that I don't want mailed, but want
notification of to send it's output to /dev/null (is it only /dev/null,
or will cron still mail me if I output to a text file instead?) *and
then to* echo the name of the job to (let's say) done_deals.txt after
the job completed, and then

Made a new cron job that runs last in that time period which sent me the
output of cat done_deals.txt (which would hopefully contain the names of
all the jobs that completed, but whose actual output was sent to
/dev/null or whatever)

would that work?

It sounds reasonable, although I don't know how to do it (I am so not a
command-line jockey), and it also sounds easily repeatable (for cron
jobs of all time periods, or if new jobs are added to any time period),
which supports it being doable.

Does this sound flakey? Does this sound useful? And if it does sound
useful, is there any tool that would allow me to create a more global
setup in case I wanted to provide this solution to others (i.e. post it
on the forums as some kind of script, or package it in some way for
Bugzilla)?

Holly


> 
> 
> 
>>Thanks for any help,
> 
> hope i could help a little bit
> 
> 
>>Holly
> 
> 
> cya
> 
> alex
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Preventing installation of evolution and others

2005-06-29 Thread Tero Grundström

On Wed, 29 Jun 2005, Holly Bostick wrote:


That's it. The only major applications that I can think of that are
installed by gnome and not by gnome-light which would remain on the
system as orphans are Totem (and it's gstreamer or xine dependencies),
and possibly beagle, if that's installed.

If you want to keep them, you can re-emerge them alone, so they will be
put in your world file, and thus normally updateable.


Faster way:

echo category/package >> /var/lib/portage/world

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Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke--update

2005-06-29 Thread maxim wexler


--- "A. Khattri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sun, 26 Jun 2005, maxim wexler wrote:
> 
> > So there must be a problem w/
> > the Asus K8N-E(Sempron box) BIOS. I updated it
> using
> > the tool that came w/ the support CD but it only
> made
> > matters worse:
> 
> Did you download the latest BIOS from Asus's site
> and use that?

Yes!

> I imagine any CD included with a motherboard is old
> before it hits the
> shelves...

So what? The "tool" will still work. Kindly read what
I wrote!



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Re: [gentoo-user] Preventing installation of evolution and others

2005-06-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:29:58 -0300, Bruno Lustosa wrote:

> Yes, I know about that. What I want is a way to ignore dependencies
> the same way I ignore updates using package.mask and package.unmask.
> For example, the gnome meta-package depends on evolution and epiphany,
> though none of them are actually required to run gnome. It just
> happens that the meta-package installs a full gnome environment. Now I
> know about gnome-light, but there must be other packages with unneeded
> dependencies like this.

Other meta packages maybe, like the KDE ones. These are convenient ways
of installing a bunch of packages in one go. With a normal package, a
dependency is just that, something on which it depends. You can fool the
system by including packages in /etc/portage/profile/package.provided,
but you may find things breaking as a result.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Preventing installation of evolution and others

2005-06-29 Thread Bruno Lustosa
On 6/29/05, Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I take it you emerged the gnome meta-package (emerge gnome), which
> requires evo, epiphany and mozilla (among others), rather than
> gnome-light, which does not.

Yes, I have done that. Portage won't install them now.
Unmerged totem and its gst-plugin* (I use mplayer/gmplayer).
My processor will thank me for the idle time :)
Thank you.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Preventing installation of evolution and others

2005-06-29 Thread Holly Bostick
Bruno Lustosa schreef:
> How can I make sure that when I upgrade, packages like evolution and
> epiphany (along with mozilla) won't get installed? Is there a (clean)
> way to prevent them from being installed?
> They seem to be tied to gnome, but as I don't use them, I have no need
> to waste time compiling any of them.
> 

I take it you emerged the gnome meta-package (emerge gnome), which
requires evo, epiphany and mozilla (among others), rather than
gnome-light, which does not.

The easiest way to solve this is to

1. Unmerge gnome (this will not uninstall any packages, just the
meta-package, so that evolution et. al. become orphaned dependencies of
an uninstalled package);

2. Unmerge evo, evo data server, mozilla and epiphany

3. emerge gnome-light (which is a "light" meta package that "adopts" the
majority of the packages that the gnome desktop relies on, so that when
gnome-session, gnome-panel or nautilus is updated, you will get those
updates with an emerge -uD world).

That's it. The only major applications that I can think of that are
installed by gnome and not by gnome-light which would remain on the
system as orphans are Totem (and it's gstreamer or xine dependencies),
and possibly beagle, if that's installed.

If you want to keep them, you can re-emerge them alone, so they will be
put in your world file, and thus normally updateable. Or of course you
can remove them-- if anything needs them, they'll be re-emerged at the
next emerge --whatever world that updates the package that requires them.

Hope this helps,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Preventing installation of evolution and others

2005-06-29 Thread Bruno Lustosa
On 6/29/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> have a look at -> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Portage_Correctly
> under "Maintaining Packages" they describe how to unmask a package using
> /etc/portage/package.unmask
> the same is possible with /etc/portage/package.mask where u can put
> programs in which you want never have installed

Yes, I know about that. What I want is a way to ignore dependencies
the same way I ignore updates using package.mask and package.unmask.
For example, the gnome meta-package depends on evolution and epiphany,
though none of them are actually required to run gnome. It just
happens that the meta-package installs a full gnome environment. Now I
know about gnome-light, but there must be other packages with unneeded
dependencies like this.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Preventing installation of evolution and others

2005-06-29 Thread Bruno Lustosa
On 6/29/05, Bruno Lustosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How can I make sure that when I upgrade, packages like evolution and
> epiphany (along with mozilla) won't get installed? Is there a (clean)
> way to prevent them from being installed?
> They seem to be tied to gnome, but as I don't use them, I have no need
> to waste time compiling any of them.

Err.. never mind. I managed to do it by unmerging gnome and emerging
gnome-light.
However, isn't there a way to force portage to ignore a dependency?
Perhaps /etc/portage/package.depends, or something like that?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Preventing installation of evolution and others

2005-06-29 Thread z3rosix
hello,

On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 10:54:24AM -0300, Bruno Lustosa wrote:
> How can I make sure that when I upgrade, packages like evolution and
> epiphany (along with mozilla) won't get installed? Is there a (clean)
> way to prevent them from being installed?
> They seem to be tied to gnome, but as I don't use them, I have no need
> to waste time compiling any of them.
> 
have a look at -> http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Portage_Correctly
under "Maintaining Packages" they describe how to unmask a package using
/etc/portage/package.unmask
the same is possible with /etc/portage/package.mask where u can put
programs in which you want never have installed

you also can give an excat version of an program


greetz

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Re: [gentoo-user] Another question on mailing cron-job output

2005-06-29 Thread z3rosix
hello,

On Wed, Jun 29, 2005 at 03:42:08PM +0200, Holly Bostick wrote:
> Hey, list,
 
> Alternatively, since the output cron jobs are being mailed via a mail -s
> command in the scripts themselves, can I/should I just put a dummy user
> in cron's 'normal' mailto slot, so that the "other" mail essentially
> goes to /dev/null?
> 
> It's not a big problem now, but I can see how, as I learn more about
> cron and add more jobs for the daemon to run, it could get to be.
> 
> What I'd *really* like is the output from the jobs that I've set to mail
> me output, and a summary of names of any other jobs that ran
> successfully, just so I know that they ran successfully. But I don't
> think cron does that... does it?
>
the only thing i know is to put all the output of the cronjob you won't
have an email to /dev/null
for example:
3 4 * * *   /usr/bin/ls /tmp > /dev/null

because auf cron only send's emails when it gets output you will never
get an email anymore.

But as you ask for an notification i don't know just one way.
do the task in an extra script an filter there the output, so that the
cron daemon only gets the output u wan't to have emailed.
that's why programs often have the -q --quiet option which only prints
errors.


> Thanks for any help,
hope i could help a little bit

> Holly

cya

alex

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[gentoo-user] Preventing installation of evolution and others

2005-06-29 Thread Bruno Lustosa
How can I make sure that when I upgrade, packages like evolution and
epiphany (along with mozilla) won't get installed? Is there a (clean)
way to prevent them from being installed?
They seem to be tied to gnome, but as I don't use them, I have no need
to waste time compiling any of them.

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[gentoo-user] Another question on mailing cron-job output

2005-06-29 Thread Holly Bostick
Hey, list,

You may remember me asking previously about how to get cron to mail me
the output of esync, which is working fine so fine, in fact, that I
think I'll take Neil's recent suggestion of putting revdep-rebuild -p in
cron.weekly and having that output mailed to me as well.

So atm, my cron jobs mail me the output of esync and glsa-check (and
shortly revdep-rebuild -p). But there's also a default cron job that
runs daily...

test -x /usr/sbin/run-crons && /usr/sbin/run-crons

Now, I want this job to run, but I really don't need the input mailed to
me, especially if this is what it is (and this *is* what it is):

> !!! aux_get(): ebuild path for 'app-misc/FileRunner-2.5.1' not specified:
> !!!None
> Building database from scratch ..
> Reading Portage settings ..
> Using eix database in /var/cache/eix
> Using portage cache: /usr/portage/
> Reading cache for main tree:   
> 0%000%001%002%002%003%004%005%005%006%007%008%008%009%010%010%011%012%013%013%014%015%016%016%017%018%018%019%020%021%021%022%023%024%024%025%026%027%027%028%029%029%030%031%032%032%033%034%035%035%036%037%037%038%039%040%040%041%042%043%043%044%045%045%046%047%048%048%049%050%051%051%052%053%054%054%055%056%056%057%058%059%059%060%061%062%062%063%064%064%065%066%067%067%068%069%070%070%071%072%072%073%074%075%075%076%077%078%078%079%080%081%081%082%083%083%084%085%086%086%
087%0
> Reading overlays ..
> /usr/local/portage/   
> 0%000%001%002%002%003%004%005%005%006%007%008%008%009%010%010%011%012%013%013%014%015%016%016%017%018%018%019%020%021%021%022%023%024%024%025%026%027%027%028%029%029%030%031%032%032%033%034%035%035%036%037%037%038%039%040%040%041%042%043%043%044%045%045%046%047%048%048%049%050%051%051%052%053%054%054%055%056%056%057%058%059%059%060%061%062%062%063%064%064%065%066%067%067%068%069%070%070%071%072%072%073%074%075%075%076%077%078%078%079%080%081%081%082%083%083%084%085%086%086%087%
088%08
> /usr/local/bmg-main/   
> 0%000%001%002%002%003%004%005%005%006%007%008%008%009%010%010%011%012%013%013%014%015%016%016%017%018%018%019%020%021%021%022%023%024%024%025%026%027%027%028%029%029%030%031%032%032%033%034%035%035%036%037%037%038%039%040%040%041%042%043%043%044%045%045%046%047%048%048%049%050%051%051%052%053%054%054%055%056%056%057%058%059%059%060%061%062%062%063%064%064%065%066%067%067%068%069%070%070%071%072%072%073%074%075%075%076%077%078%078%079%080%081%081%082%083%083%084%085%086%086%087%
088%0
> Applying masks ..
> Database contains 9542 packages in 137 categories.

Woo-hoo. The only error in this I know about (just haven't fixed it yet,
but since it's why I can't even install the program, I know that
particular ebuild is broken), and the rest of the output is pretty
non-informative/useless.

Is there any way to *not* receive mail from specific cron jobs, while
leaving the rest of the mails intact? I looked at man cron and man
crontab, but they seemed to indicate that it's kind of an all-or-nothing
deal.

Alternatively, since the output cron jobs are being mailed via a mail -s
command in the scripts themselves, can I/should I just put a dummy user
in cron's 'normal' mailto slot, so that the "other" mail essentially
goes to /dev/null?

It's not a big problem now, but I can see how, as I learn more about
cron and add more jobs for the daemon to run, it could get to be.

What I'd *really* like is the output from the jobs that I've set to mail
me output, and a summary of names of any other jobs that ran
successfully, just so I know that they ran successfully. But I don

Re: [gentoo-user] vsftp .vs. ftpbase WTF??

2005-06-29 Thread Ron Bickers
On Wed June 29 2005 05:58 am, Stoian Ivanov wrote:

> Calculating world dependencies ...done!
> [blocks B ]  net-ftp/ftpbase-0.00) [ebuild  N] net-ftp/ftpbase-0.00
> [ebuild U ] net-ftp/vsftpd-2.0.3-r1 [2.0.3]

> So the answer is "Den't emerge until things are sorted out (ftpbase-0.01
> orvsftpd-2.0.3-r2)?"

I ran into the same thing.  From the changelog, vsftpd-2.0.3-r1 now depends 
on a brand new package called ftpbase, which provides /etc/ftpusers, 
installs an ftp user, creates the home directory, and optionally 
provides /etc/pam.d/ftp.

I guess it doesn't just install ftpbase because prior vsftpd packages include 
that which ftpbase now includes, so there's a conflict.

unmerge vsftpd and then emerge and all should be well.

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Re: [gentoo-user] xdirectfb on 2005 - no binary after compilation - any tips to get xdirectfb working

2005-06-29 Thread Matthew Cline
> On 6/29/05, anthony hornby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Anyone have any tips on getting XdirectFB working on gentoo 2005?

There's also a lengthy post in the forums about it:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-34174-highlight-xdirectfb.html

One post mentions that this might be a gcc-3.4 issue. Have you tried
emerging it using 3.3?

HTH,

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Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild questions...

2005-06-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:32:14 -0400, Dave Nebinger wrote:

> I'm thinking about building a cron script to run early in the morning
> and, if a recent emerge has taken place, run revdep-rebuild
> automatically.  Does this sound like a good idea or not?

I'd be a little wary about running it automatically. How about running
it with -p and having it mail you the output? Then you can review what
it wants to do before running it in anger. When run with -p,
revdep-rebuild caches its results in ~/.revdep-rebuild.*, so it will be
a lot quicker to run it for real, only requiring the time for the actual
emerges.


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Re: [gentoo-user] No Sound!!!

2005-06-29 Thread Holly Bostick
Michael Sullivan schreef:
> I'm still working to get my recently reinstalled Gentoo system up to its
> former glory.  I cannot get my sound to work though.  I'm following (or
> rather trying to) the Gentoo Alsa Guide
> (http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml) .  It says to run lspci to
> find out what sound card I'm using:
> 
> baby ~ # lspci -v | grep -i audio
> :00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 04)
> 
> 
> I'm using a genkernel, 2.6 kernel, so I assume
> that ALSA is compiled into it already.  


You... assume. sigh. Don't assume, *check*. I'm sure ALSA is
compiled into the kernel already, but is support for your card? If you
do a make menuconfig (or just read the .config file either in
/usr/src/linux or /boot, is the driver for your card listed with either
a * (or YES, if looking at the text file), or an m, or is it blank?

Have you tried to modprobe the driver? What happens when you do?

Is snd-ens1371 listed in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 ?

Is alsasound running (probably not)? Is alsasound set in rc-update? Have
you correctly configured /etc/conf.d/alsa to reflect the correct drivers?

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild questions...

2005-06-29 Thread Rafael Fernández López
El Miércoles 29 Junio 2005 14:32, Dave Nebinger escribió:
> I updated world yesterday which gave me a new com_err release.  Saw the
> notice about running revdep-rebuild fly by when I did it but ignored it
> because I've never really needed to do this before.
>
> Soon thereafter I could not ssh to the box because of the missing
> libcom_err.so.3 file and realized that I had ignored the message at my own
> peril...
>
> So revdep-rebuild is currently running on the box but I'm wondering how
> often the revdep-rebuild needs to be run...
>
> Any suggestions from you folks out there in gentoo land?
>
> I'm thinking about building a cron script to run early in the morning and,
> if a recent emerge has taken place, run revdep-rebuild automatically.  Does
> this sound like a good idea or not?
>
> Does revdep-rebuild rebuild the same version of the packages that are
> currently installed or will it do a package update from the portage tree?

Theorically revdep-rebuild should be run every update that changes some linked 
libraries. All apps that are depending on them maybe won't find them, and 
they'll crash or not work correctly, for that reason, revdep-rebuid, looks 
for all linked libraries needs on apps, and checks if they do exist.

It's pretty useful.

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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Portable Music Player

2005-06-29 Thread Matthias Schweinoch
Hi Boyd,

> > negative: NO SUPPORT FOR OGG!!!
>
>
> Well, doesn't help me (see above) but hopefully someone else reading the 
> thread can use your review / recommendation. 


I just bought myself an HD 300 from MPIO. You can check out the device at
www.mpio.com. It's recognized as an external usb harddisk under linux, so
/var/log/messages tells me. I haven't gotten around to actually mounting it
yet - I actually got this only 2 days or so ago, and my Kernel obviously
still has some SCSI issues, so right now I can't mount any USB drives... I
will try to get it running over the weekend.

As for the device itself, I think it's rather neat. It supports OGG, MP3,
ASF, WMA and WAV (though it doesn't play just ANY wav format: I couldn't
convince it to play a mono wav file...). Also, it can record via line-in or
an integrated microphone, and even from radio (which is also included, and
has a rather decent reception, AFAIK).

It does have 3 issues which I find annoying: 

1. The user interface, i.e. the touch pad/keypad is good enough for setting
the volume, but it's a rather awkward way to navigate the directories. Also,
the keypad has 2 trigger points (i.e. if you press it 'lightly' you get the
first trigger... if you press a little harder, you get a second trigger...
but there's no difference between the two actions), which makes for some
confusion. 

2. The drive/response time is somewhat slow. When you want to navigate the
directory, you may click on a file, and it will take 3-6 seconds to actually
change the directory or start playing the file. However, if you run through
a playlist or play all files in a directory, this is not an issue.

3. It needs a separate charging unit and doesn't get charged via USB. Not a
real problem, but an annoyance.

So, summing up: Loads of features (radio, recording, integrated equalizer
with many presets and configurable, media formats) which outperform the
iPod, AFAIK, but a slightly awkward user interface (where the iPod shines). 

Ah yes, one other thing: Sound is superb!


Matthias

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Re: [gentoo-user] kde path is missing

2005-06-29 Thread Jan Callewaert
Op dinsdag 28 juni 2005 23:45, schreef Zac Medico:

>
> Do you guys have USE="-arts" by any chance?
>
> $ equery belongs /etc/env.d/46kdepaths-3.4
> kde-base/arts-3.4.1-r2
>
> $ cat /etc/env.d/46kdepaths-3.4
> PATH=/usr/kde/3.4/bin
> ROOTPATH=/usr/kde/3.4/sbin:/usr/kde/3.4/bin
> LDPATH=/usr/kde/3.4/lib
> CONFIG_PROTECT="/usr/kde/3.4/share/config /usr/kde/3.4/env
> /usr/kde/3.4/shutdown"
>
> Zac

Yes, that's it. Now I wonder, why are those paths included in the package 
arts, and not in kde-env, which seems more logical to me?

Jan

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[gentoo-user] revdep-rebuild questions...

2005-06-29 Thread Dave Nebinger
I updated world yesterday which gave me a new com_err release.  Saw the
notice about running revdep-rebuild fly by when I did it but ignored it
because I've never really needed to do this before.

Soon thereafter I could not ssh to the box because of the missing
libcom_err.so.3 file and realized that I had ignored the message at my own
peril...

So revdep-rebuild is currently running on the box but I'm wondering how
often the revdep-rebuild needs to be run...

Any suggestions from you folks out there in gentoo land?

I'm thinking about building a cron script to run early in the morning and,
if a recent emerge has taken place, run revdep-rebuild automatically.  Does
this sound like a good idea or not?

Does revdep-rebuild rebuild the same version of the packages that are
currently installed or will it do a package update from the portage tree?



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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice2.0 Install [not solved :( ]

2005-06-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 23:24:46 +, Ian K wrote:

> Im getting a problem though.. After I enter in your command,
> I did an emerge search to get the size of the download, but it
> says the latest version is still 1.1.4, and I just did an emerge sync
> a few hours ago... Any ideas?

OOo 2.0 is package masked.

 $ grep -B 2 openoff /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask
# Andreas Proschofsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (30 Mar 2005)
# Pre-Release, use on your own risk
>=app-office/openoffice-bin-1.9.87

Do

echo >>/etc/portage/package.unmask ">=app-office/openoffice-bin-1.9.90"


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Re: [gentoo-user] Disk Backup From One Machine To Another

2005-06-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 07:34:16 -0400, Bill Roberts wrote:

> I used to use rdiff-backup, I found it very satisfactory. But at one
> point I had a hard drive melt down, tried to do restore, mucked it up,
> ended up doing a full rebuild, pulling in configuration info from the
> backup files. There has to an easier way. 
> 
> Any suggestions on using rdiff-backup for a cold iron restore??

In that case, I'd just copy the entire backup directory back to the hard
drive.

I make squashfs archives of the backups each week and write them to a
bootable DVD. If disaster strikes, I can boot fro the DVD, mount the
backups and copy the files back to the hard drive.


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Re: [gentoo-user] vsftp .vs. ftpbase WTF??

2005-06-29 Thread Holly Bostick
Stoian Ivanov schreef:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ # emerge -auD world
> 
> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
> 
> Calculating world dependencies ...done!
> [blocks B ]  [ebuild  N] net-ftp/ftpbase-0.00
> [ebuild U ] net-ftp/vsftpd-2.0.3-r1 [2.0.3]
> 
> !!! Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be installed
> !!!on the same system.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ # 
> 
> So the answer is "Den't emerge until things are sorted out (ftpbase-0.01 
> orvsftpd-2.0.3-r2)?"

And your question would be? Are you asking how to find out why ftpbase
is being called at all (run emerge -upDt world to get a tree view that
will show you what installed program vsftpd is a -D(ependency) of, and
also what installed program is requiring ftpbase)? Are you asking how to
solve the issue (unmerge vsftpd and then run the original command again,
which will allow ftpbase to install, as it cannot be installed on a
system where vsftpd is already installed-- apparently they are
replacements for each other)? Or are you asking which one is better (no
idea)?

Of course you can emerge while this is up in the air; just not with
--deep and probably not world (as world will likely re-initiate the
conflict). But if there are other things on the list that you want to
update, you can of course do that, and you can of course add any new
apps that might catch your fancy. And some 5-10 minutes of looking at
the information of the two conflicting apps-- a combination of searches
on www.gentoo-portage.com and packages.gentoo.org , with a side trip to
one or both homepages, usually should indicate why the block exists and
provide enough information about both programs so you can decide how you
personally want to solve it (maybe you don't want ftpbase at all and
want to stick with vsftpd).

Blocks really seem to throw people for a loop, when they're really only
there to make you *stop* the headlong rush and examine the particular
situation more carefully. Otherwise, they're not a really big deal, at
least IMHO.

Holly

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge Amarok

2005-06-29 Thread Holly Bostick
Anthony E. Caudel schreef:
> I recently switched to the KDE 3.4 split ebuilds but when I tried to
> emerge Amarok, it wnated to pull in several 3.3 packages:
> 
> ==
> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies ...done!
> [ebuild  NS   ] kde-base/arts-1.3.2-r1  +alsa +arts -artswrappersuid
> -debug +esd -hardened -jack -kdeenablefinal +mad +oggvorbis -xinerama
> 945 kB
> [ebuild  NS   ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r9  +alsa +arts +cups -debug +doc
> +ipv6 -kdeenablefinal -kerberos +ldap +spell +ssl +tiff -xinerama 15,257
> kB
> [ebuild  N] kde-base/kdebase-3.3.2-r3  +arts +cups -debug +java
> -kdeenablefinal +ldap +opengl +pam +samba +ssl -xinerama 19,526 kB
> [ebuild  N] kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.3.2  +alsa +arts -audiofile
> -cdparanoia -debug +encode +flac -kdeenablefinal +oggvorbis -speex +xine
> -xinerama 5,258 kB
> [ebuild  N] media-sound/amarok-1.2.4  +arts -debug +flac +gstreamer
> +kde -kdeenablefinal +mad +mysql -noamazon +oggvorbis +opengl
> -visualization +xine -xinerama +xmms 5,875 kB
> 
> 
> I placed amarok in package.keywords so it would pull in the latest 1.2.4
> version but that did't help.  I don't see any particular USE flags that
> would cause this.  None of the other apps wanted to do this and I really
> don't believe these 4 packages are necessary.
> 
> How can I find out what is forcing this and prevent it.
> 
> Tony

What's forcing it is your version of amarok:

# ChangeLog for media-sound/amarok
# Copyright 2000-2005 Gentoo Foundation; Distributed under the GPL v2
# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/media-sound/amarok/ChangeLog,v 1.59
2005/06/27 10:21:02 flameeyes Exp $

*amarok-1.3_beta2 (27 Jun 2005)

27 Jun 2005; Diego Pettenò <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
+amarok-1.3_beta2.ebuild:
New upstream beta.

22 Jun 2005; Hanno Boeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> +files/amarok-gcc4.gz,
amarok-1.2.4.ebuild:
Fix for gcc4.

17 Jun 2005; Joseph Jezak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> amarok-1.2.3.ebuild:
Marked ppc stable.

16 Jun 2005; Diego Pettenò <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
amarok-1.3_beta1.ebuild:
Amarok 1.3 depends on kde 3.3 not 3.4.


See that last entry?

You need the 1.3 beta, not the last release.

esults 1 - 1 of 1
amarok
Description: amaroK - the audio player for KDE.
Releasesalpha   amd64   arm hppaia64mipsppc ppc64   
ppc macos   s390sh
sparc   x86
1.3_beta2   -   M~  -   -   -   -   M~  -   
-   -   -   -   M~
1.3_beta1   -   M~  -   -   -   -   M~  -   
-   -   -   -   M~

The betas are hard masked and package masked, so you will have to (from
a root terminal):

echo 'media-sound/amarok' >>/etc/portage/package.unmask

and

echo 'media-sound/amarok ~x86' >>/etc/portage/package.keywords

then you should be able to get the version that depends on KDE 3.4.

BTW, I'm using it (the beta build), and it seems fine (this is my first
time using Amarok, so I have no previous experience). I don't even use
KDE, but it's now my "default" player.

HTH,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Disk Backup From One Machine To Another

2005-06-29 Thread Bill Roberts
I used to use rdiff-backup, I found it very satisfactory. But at one
point I had a hard drive melt down, tried to do restore, mucked it up,
ended up doing a full rebuild, pulling in configuration info from the
backup files. There has to an easier way. 

Any suggestions on using rdiff-backup for a cold iron restore??

Bill Roberts

On 11:14 Wed 29 Jun , Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:45:52 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
> 
> > > rdiff-backup --restore-as-of 1D12h /backup/path/to/file
> > > 
> > > will restore file to the version you used 36 hours ago.
> > 
> > Wow.. That does seem interesting. (I presume this is if you do a backup
> > every 12 hours?)
> 
> You can do the backup as often or as frequently as you like. it will pick
> the version before the time to specify.
> 
> > When Does it do a Full backup?
> 
> The first time you run it. But then each subsequent backup you do becomes
> the full one with the older files being the "incrementals". Basically,
> it keeps a full mirror of the directory you backup, plus the information
> needed to reconstruct older or deleted files.
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice2.0 Install [not solved :( ]

2005-06-29 Thread Holly Bostick
Ian K schreef:
> Zac Medico wrote:
> 
> 
>>Ian K wrote:
>> 
>>
>>
>>>Hey Everyone,
>>>I really want the OO.org 2.0 beta, but its not in portage

>>
>>http://packages.gentoo.org/packages/?category=app-office;name=openoffice-bin
>>
>>The latest beta is in the portage tree but it's keyword masked.
>>
>>echo "app-office/openoffice-bin ~*" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords
>>emerge openoffice-bin
> 
> Im getting a problem though.. After I enter in your command,
> I did an emerge search to get the size of the download, but it
> says the latest version is still 1.1.4, and I just did an emerge sync
> a few hours ago... Any ideas?

Yes... This suggests that you've either made a typo or otherwise not
successfully unmasked the file.

Now, I'm looking at the OO.o-bin entry in packages.gentoo.org,

openoffice-bin 1.9.109
Thu Jun 16 16:48:15 2005

Description: OpenOffice productivity suite

Changes:
*openoffice-bin-1.9.109 (16 Jun 2005)

16 Jun 2005; Andreas Proschofsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
+files/1.9/ooo-wrapper2, +openoffice-bin-1.9.109.ebuild:
New beta version of OOo 2.0. This uses a new wrapper, also adds two new
languages (hr and lt) plus some minor fixes and the user install dir
has changed.

05 Jun 2005; Andreas Proschofsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
openoffice-bin-1.9.104.ebuild:
Make the LINGUAS-stuff a little bit smarter to not break en_GB, closes bug
#93826

21 May 2005; Andreas Proschofsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
openoffice-bin-1.9.104.ebuild:
Missed two new rpms, which breaks stuff for some. Fixed. Install
changing all the time is really anoying.

alpha   amd64   arm hppaia64mipsppc ppc64   ppc 
macos   s390sparc   x86
1.9.109 -   M~  -   -   -   -   -   -   
-   -   -   M~

and it looks to me like it's double-masked; hard-masked and by keyword.
This is supported by my own settings (I have 1.9.109 installed myself).

So first you have to disable the hard mask:

echo 'app-office/openoffice-bin' >>/etc/portage/package.unmask

(make sure that /etc/portage exists first-- the echo command can create
the file if it doesn't exist, but not the folder, so will fail in that case)

and then the keyword mask:

echo 'app-office/openoffice-bin ~x86' >>/etc/portage/package.keywords

This should allow you to get a hold of the app you want. Works for me,
anyway.

If it still doesn't work, check for typos inside the file itself (in a
root terminal with nano, or a gk/kdesu text editor, as only root can
edit these files)-- I'm becoming rather famous with myself for echoing
to /etc/portage/packagewhatever rather than
/etc/portage/packagewhatever (yeah, I can't half type)-- this
and other typos will prevent the entry from being correctly read, thus
not telling Portage that you want the package made available to you.

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Disk Backup From One Machine To Another

2005-06-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 17:45:52 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote:

> > rdiff-backup --restore-as-of 1D12h /backup/path/to/file
> > 
> > will restore file to the version you used 36 hours ago.
> 
> Wow.. That does seem interesting. (I presume this is if you do a backup
> every 12 hours?)

You can do the backup as often or as frequently as you like. it will pick
the version before the time to specify.

> When Does it do a Full backup?

The first time you run it. But then each subsequent backup you do becomes
the full one with the older files being the "incrementals". Basically,
it keeps a full mirror of the directory you backup, plus the information
needed to reconstruct older or deleted files.


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Re: [gentoo-user] vsftp .vs. ftpbase WTF??

2005-06-29 Thread Zac Medico
Stoian Ivanov wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ # emerge -auD world
> 
> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
> 
> Calculating world dependencies ...done!
> [blocks B ]  [ebuild  N] net-ftp/ftpbase-0.00
> [ebuild U ] net-ftp/vsftpd-2.0.3-r1 [2.0.3]
> 
> !!! Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be installed
> !!!on the same system.
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ # 
> 
> So the answer is "Den't emerge until things are sorted out (ftpbase-0.01 
> orvsftpd-2.0.3-r2)?"

emerge unmerge "=net-ftp/vsftpd-2.0.3"

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge Amarok

2005-06-29 Thread Zac Medico
Anthony E. Caudel wrote:
> I recently switched to the KDE 3.4 split ebuilds but when I tried to
> emerge Amarok, it wnated to pull in several 3.3 packages:
> 
> ==
> These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies ...done!
> [ebuild  NS   ] kde-base/arts-1.3.2-r1  +alsa +arts -artswrappersuid
> -debug +esd -hardened -jack -kdeenablefinal +mad +oggvorbis -xinerama
> 945 kB
> [ebuild  NS   ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r9  +alsa +arts +cups -debug +doc
> +ipv6 -kdeenablefinal -kerberos +ldap +spell +ssl +tiff -xinerama 15,257
> kB
> [ebuild  N] kde-base/kdebase-3.3.2-r3  +arts +cups -debug +java
> -kdeenablefinal +ldap +opengl +pam +samba +ssl -xinerama 19,526 kB
> [ebuild  N] kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.3.2  +alsa +arts -audiofile
> -cdparanoia -debug +encode +flac -kdeenablefinal +oggvorbis -speex +xine
> -xinerama 5,258 kB
> [ebuild  N] media-sound/amarok-1.2.4  +arts -debug +flac +gstreamer
> +kde -kdeenablefinal +mad +mysql -noamazon +oggvorbis +opengl
> -visualization +xine -xinerama +xmms 5,875 kB
> 
> 
> I placed amarok in package.keywords so it would pull in the latest 1.2.4
> version but that did't help.  I don't see any particular USE flags that
> would cause this.  None of the other apps wanted to do this and I really
> don't believe these 4 packages are necessary.
> 
> How can I find out what is forcing this and prevent it.
> 
> Tony

Emerge will tell you what's masking it if you specify the version that you 
want.  For example:

emerge ">=amarok-1.2.4"

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[gentoo-user] vsftp .vs. ftpbase WTF??

2005-06-29 Thread Stoian Ivanov
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ # emerge -auD world

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[blocks B ] 

Re: [gentoo-user] xdirectfb on 2005 - no binary after compilation - any tips to get xdirectfb working

2005-06-29 Thread Steve B
On 6/29/05, anthony hornby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> I have a Matrox G550 dual head graphics card and I want to have DirectFB
> running on one head for VDR output http://www.cadsoft.de/vdr/ using
> softdevice, and the other head running XDirectFB so I have a local
> graphical desktop.
> 
> The latest ebuild for xdirectfb is broken the compile runs but produces
> no binary - seems to be related to some broken macros - see bug report
> below http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76167
> 
> Anyone have any tips on getting XdirectFB working on gentoo 2005?
> 
> I have DriectFB and VDR all working now - just need XDirectFB to be
> working and its all done.
> 
> Thanks a lot.
> 
> Anthony.
I have searched for a long time for a solution to this.  I would
recommended to build it yourself (althought that has never worked for
me either) it might help you.  But the question has been asked by a
lot of people for a long time, and no solutions or comments have been
suggested.  Perhaps there is regex somewhere deep within Gentoo that
has XDirectFB piped to /dev/null (terrible joke.. but hey its late and
i'm tired).  Anyways if you do find a solution and get XDirectFB
built.. share the knowledge ;P

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Re: [gentoo-user] Disk Backup From One Machine To Another

2005-06-29 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 10:16 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:43:44 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote:
> 
> > > Unlike rsync, it allows you to easily roll back to an older version of
> > > file. Very useful when you realise you have screwed your configs just
> > > after a backup run.
> > 
> > BTW, librsync = rsync protocol/algo? Same thing?
> > 
> > Please explain the roll back. it should be the same as with rsync No?
> 
> No. rdiff-backup keeps a a backup plus diffs. You can roll back as
> far as you want just by specifying the age.
> 
> rdiff-backup --restore-as-of 1D12h /backup/path/to/file
> 
> will restore file to the version you used 36 hours ago.

Wow.. That does seem interesting. (I presume this is if you do a backup
every 12 hours?)

When Does it do a Full backup?
> Check out the rdiff-backup web site, it gives several examples of how it
> can be used - http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/ 

Yep.. Thanks.. Will do once I get some I-net access.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Disk Backup From One Machine To Another

2005-06-29 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:43:44 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote:

> > Unlike rsync, it allows you to easily roll back to an older version of
> > file. Very useful when you realise you have screwed your configs just
> > after a backup run.
> 
> BTW, librsync = rsync protocol/algo? Same thing?
> 
> Please explain the roll back. it should be the same as with rsync No?

No. rdiff-backup keeps a a backup plus diffs. You can roll back as
far as you want just by specifying the age.

rdiff-backup --restore-as-of 1D12h /backup/path/to/file

will restore file to the version you used 36 hours ago.

It is much easier and more flexible than plain rsync, especially if you
set it to backup important directories via cron. I have it backup /etc
every hour, so even if I did use etc-update -5, I would find it hard to
completely screw things up :)

Check out the rdiff-backup web site, it gives several examples of how it
can be used - http://www.nongnu.org/rdiff-backup/ 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo not yet quite right on iMac

2005-06-29 Thread Charles Trois

Craig Duncan a écrit :

Charles Trois wrote:



Another fishy thing is that changing the default runlevel in
/etc/inittab has no effect: I put it to 3 and the system booted at
level 5 all the same.



http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-ppc64.xml?part=2&chap=4
or in French
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/fr/handbook/handbook-ppc64.xml?part=2&chap=4

Craig


Thanks. I had forgotten that chapter.

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D600 Was [Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on Dell Latitude D610]

2005-06-29 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 02:52 -0400, Willie Wong wrote:
> I have Gentoo 2004.3 running on a D600, with ipw2200 maturing over
> the past year and several packages becoming available in the portage
> tree (broadcom's bcm5700 for one), it has only gotten easier. 
> 

Do you have TVout working on yours? And does ATI binary drivers work? I
can't get it to work on mine. I keep getting the NO Screen Found issue.
If yes, can I get a copy of your xorg.conf settings off-list?

Thanks.

ps : I only wanted to try ati binary drivers cos I found out they can
use tv-out which I really want.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Disk Backup From One Machine To Another

2005-06-29 Thread Ow Mun Heng
On Wed, 2005-06-29 at 09:24 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, June 29, 2005 5:08 am, Ow Mun Heng said:
> 
> >> I do, however, intend to test rdiff-backup later. ;)
> >
> > Well.. there is more than one way to skin the cat eh.
> >
> > I still think you should take a look at rsync.
> 
> rdiff-backup uses librsync, so it only transfers the minimum necessary.

I do agree that rdiff-backup would be easier on the disk space. But my
current practice is to sync all the changes into a tree that rotates
every 7 days. (using the day before as a seed)

This way, if bad things happen, I don't have to do the find full backup
and apply the incrementals.

> Unlike rsync, it allows you to easily roll back to an older version of
> file. Very useful when you realise you have screwed your configs just
> after a backup run.

BTW, librsync = rsync protocol/algo? Same thing?

Please explain the roll back. it should be the same as with rsync No?



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Re: [gentoo-user] Disk Backup From One Machine To Another

2005-06-29 Thread Neil Bothwick

On Wed, June 29, 2005 5:08 am, Ow Mun Heng said:

>> I do, however, intend to test rdiff-backup later. ;)
>
> Well.. there is more than one way to skin the cat eh.
>
> I still think you should take a look at rsync.

rdiff-backup uses librsync, so it only transfers the minimum necessary.
Unlike rsync, it allows you to easily roll back to an older version of a
file. Very useful when you realise you have screwed your configs just
after a backup run.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Configuring Engage

2005-06-29 Thread Ian K
Ian K wrote:

>Bertrand Jacquin wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Have a look to : http://get-e.org/User_Guide/English/pages/4.2.html
>>
>>++
>>Beber
>>
>>On 6/29/05, Ian K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hi there,
>>>Two things:
>>>
>>>1. Is there another GNOME suitable parabolic zooming dock, like kxdocker
>>>but for gnome?
>>>   If you can only think of Engage, please move to question 2.
>>>
>>>2. :) How do you configure the thing? It gives me this on running:
>>>
>>>am a system tray :) :)
>>>engage: icon.c:182: od_icon_reload: Assertion 'path' failed.
>>>Aborted
>>>#
>>>
>>>Please note that on its first run, before giving me that error, it told
>>>me to create a few
>>>directories in my home area. I did, but no improvements.
>>>
>>>Thanks!
>>>Ian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>So does this mean I need Enlightenment?
>Ian
>  
>
Actually, never mind, I saw the bottom of the page...
I've never used Enlightenment before, (:S) so if you could offer some
guidance, it would really be appreciated. :)
Thanks much
Ian
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Re: [gentoo-user] Configuring Engage

2005-06-29 Thread Ian K
Bertrand Jacquin wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Have a look to : http://get-e.org/User_Guide/English/pages/4.2.html
>
>++
>Beber
>
>On 6/29/05, Ian K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi there,
>>Two things:
>>
>>1. Is there another GNOME suitable parabolic zooming dock, like kxdocker
>>but for gnome?
>>If you can only think of Engage, please move to question 2.
>>
>>2. :) How do you configure the thing? It gives me this on running:
>>
>>am a system tray :) :)
>>engage: icon.c:182: od_icon_reload: Assertion 'path' failed.
>>Aborted
>>#
>>
>>Please note that on its first run, before giving me that error, it told
>>me to create a few
>>directories in my home area. I did, but no improvements.
>>
>>Thanks!
>>Ian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>  
>
So does this mean I need Enlightenment?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Configuring Engage

2005-06-29 Thread Bertrand Jacquin
Hi,

Have a look to : http://get-e.org/User_Guide/English/pages/4.2.html

++
Beber

On 6/29/05, Ian K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi there,
> Two things:
> 
> 1. Is there another GNOME suitable parabolic zooming dock, like kxdocker
> but for gnome?
> If you can only think of Engage, please move to question 2.
> 
> 2. :) How do you configure the thing? It gives me this on running:
> 
> am a system tray :) :)
> engage: icon.c:182: od_icon_reload: Assertion 'path' failed.
> Aborted
> #
> 
> Please note that on its first run, before giving me that error, it told
> me to create a few
> directories in my home area. I did, but no improvements.
> 
> Thanks!
> Ian
> 
> 
>

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[gentoo-user] Emerge Amarok

2005-06-29 Thread Anthony E. Caudel
I recently switched to the KDE 3.4 split ebuilds but when I tried to
emerge Amarok, it wnated to pull in several 3.3 packages:

==
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  NS   ] kde-base/arts-1.3.2-r1  +alsa +arts -artswrappersuid
-debug +esd -hardened -jack -kdeenablefinal +mad +oggvorbis -xinerama
945 kB
[ebuild  NS   ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.3.2-r9  +alsa +arts +cups -debug +doc
+ipv6 -kdeenablefinal -kerberos +ldap +spell +ssl +tiff -xinerama 15,257
kB
[ebuild  N] kde-base/kdebase-3.3.2-r3  +arts +cups -debug +java
-kdeenablefinal +ldap +opengl +pam +samba +ssl -xinerama 19,526 kB
[ebuild  N] kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.3.2  +alsa +arts -audiofile
-cdparanoia -debug +encode +flac -kdeenablefinal +oggvorbis -speex +xine
-xinerama 5,258 kB
[ebuild  N] media-sound/amarok-1.2.4  +arts -debug +flac +gstreamer
+kde -kdeenablefinal +mad +mysql -noamazon +oggvorbis +opengl
-visualization +xine -xinerama +xmms 5,875 kB


I placed amarok in package.keywords so it would pull in the latest 1.2.4
version but that did't help.  I don't see any particular USE flags that
would cause this.  None of the other apps wanted to do this and I really
don't believe these 4 packages are necessary.

How can I find out what is forcing this and prevent it.

Tony
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