Re: [H] Flash drive(s)
I got a similar response to the effect of NDA when I asked about IronKey functionality for simple obvious things like passphrase length valid characters. In the end they were very helpful gave good answers to my questions. IronKey sounds good an paper vs. anything else currently out. When the price drops I'd really like to get a IronKey. Brian Weeden wrote: Computer World Magazine just posted an article reviewing 7 secure USB drives from major manufacturers. Some funny and sad stuff in there, especially what sort of gimmicks these vendors put in to try and make their drives secure. In the end they chose IronKey, but really putting free and open source TrueCrypt on any old USB key would do a better job (for cheaper) than almost all of these: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=9062527 I think I liked this quote the best: Kingston refused to say what encryption mode the device runs in, citing that it was proprietary information. Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
[H] Flash drive(s)-r1
Took delivery of 2 Corsair 2GB flash drives yesterday. Dang! These things are much smaller than my 2004 Crucial Gizmo 256MB (and it is pretty small) FD. These Corsair FDs are labled Voyager and come with a neat rubber-like covering (blue/black) that has a better 'grip-quotient' than the Crucial. Has nice lanyards too! The Corsair devices are also narrower than Crucial. Speed? Much faster than the 2004 test stick. Both sticks did come blank (as far as I could peek/test), so the U3 business appears to be not present. I hit them both with both Eraser 5.82 and the Windows Defrag tool. Both ended up at 1.918GB free space. I do not have any tools to look for hidden partitions so I'll just write off the 82MB difference as mfg. tolerance at this point. :) I am pleased, and, at ~$14.99 apiece from Newegg, think this is a good deal. Thank you for all your comments, suggestions, and counsel. In a couple of day, I'll share thoughts about the new Crucial sticks that are still in transit. I've studied the U3 business and read some of the TrueCrypt5.0 docs. I think I need to study this some more. For now, I'll keep my sticks in my Big Black Safe! Best, Duncan
Re: [H] Flash drive(s)-r1
Glad to hear, looks like a nice stick. I just ordered another San Disk Titanium to replace the one I lost. I really love the ability to slide the USB connector back into the case to keep it out of harm's way and I'm always losing the end caps that normally come with USB keys. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820171248 A bit more expensive than the standard 4 GB drive but I loved mine. - Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 1:54 PM, DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Took delivery of 2 Corsair 2GB flash drives yesterday. Dang! These things are much smaller than my 2004 Crucial Gizmo 256MB (and it is pretty small) FD. These Corsair FDs are labled Voyager and come with a neat rubber-like covering (blue/black) that has a better 'grip-quotient' than the Crucial. Has nice lanyards too! The Corsair devices are also narrower than Crucial. Speed? Much faster than the 2004 test stick. Both sticks did come blank (as far as I could peek/test), so the U3 business appears to be not present. I hit them both with both Eraser 5.82 and the Windows Defrag tool. Both ended up at 1.918GB free space. I do not have any tools to look for hidden partitions so I'll just write off the 82MB difference as mfg. tolerance at this point. :) I am pleased, and, at ~$14.99 apiece from Newegg, think this is a good deal. Thank you for all your comments, suggestions, and counsel. In a couple of day, I'll share thoughts about the new Crucial sticks that are still in transit. I've studied the U3 business and read some of the TrueCrypt5.0 docs. I think I need to study this some more. For now, I'll keep my sticks in my Big Black Safe! Best, Duncan
Re: [H] Flash drive(s)-r1
Brian, I did think about the slice back inside feature. In the end, I decided this was another mechanical improvement I could do without. I accept the keep track of the cap business. Have not misplaced/lost a cap yet. I do not travel as much as you. If I misplace a cap, it is in the house somewhere; and near a pooter! Rarely do my sticks leave the house (until now!). Thanks for the shot! Best, Duncan At 14:29 03/04/2008 -0500, you wrote: Glad to hear, looks like a nice stick. I just ordered another San Disk Titanium to replace the one I lost. I really love the ability to slide the USB connector back into the case to keep it out of harm's way and I'm always losing the end caps that normally come with USB keys. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820171248 A bit more expensive than the standard 4 GB drive but I loved mine. - Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 1:54 PM, DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Took delivery of 2 Corsair 2GB flash drives yesterday. Dang! These things are much smaller than my 2004 Crucial Gizmo 256MB (and it is pretty small) FD. These Corsair FDs are labled Voyager and come with a neat rubber-like covering (blue/black) that has a better 'grip-quotient' than the Crucial. Has nice lanyards too! The Corsair devices are also narrower than Crucial. Speed? Much faster than the 2004 test stick. Both sticks did come blank (as far as I could peek/test), so the U3 business appears to be not present. I hit them both with both Eraser 5.82 and the Windows Defrag tool. Both ended up at 1.918GB free space. I do not have any tools to look for hidden partitions so I'll just write off the 82MB difference as mfg. tolerance at this point. :) I am pleased, and, at ~$14.99 apiece from Newegg, think this is a good deal. Thank you for all your comments, suggestions, and counsel. In a couple of day, I'll share thoughts about the new Crucial sticks that are still in transit. I've studied the U3 business and read some of the TrueCrypt5.0 docs. I think I need to study this some more. For now, I'll keep my sticks in my Big Black Safe! Best, Duncan
Re: [H] Flash drive(s)-r1
Don't forget drives are 1,000,000 bytes per gig, and files and Windows report a gig as 1,073,741,824 bytes.. :) Both ended up at 1.918GB free space. I do not have any tools to look for hidden partitions so I'll just write off the 82MB difference as mfg. tolerance at this point. :) -- JRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please remove **X** to reply... ...Cleverly Disguised As A Responsible Adult...
Re: [H] Flash drive(s)-r1
Whoops, left out a set of zeroes. 1,000,000,000 is what I was supposed to type. :) Don't forget drives are 1,000,000 bytes per gig, and files and Windows report a gig as 1,073,741,824 bytes.. :) Both ended up at 1.918GB free space. I do not have any tools to look for hidden partitions so I'll just write off the 82MB difference as mfg. tolerance at this point. :) -- JRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please remove **X** to reply... ...Cleverly Disguised As A Responsible Adult...
Re: [H] Flash drive(s)-r1
Yes, John, That subtle thought did occur to me! So, far, so good. The Corsair Voyager is a good choice. Best, Duncan At 13:42 03/04/2008 -0800, you wrote: Don't forget drives are 1,000,000 bytes per gig, and files and Windows report a gig as 1,073,741,824 bytes.. :) Both ended up at 1.918GB free space. I do not have any tools to look for hidden partitions so I'll just write off the 82MB difference as mfg. tolerance at this point. :) -- JRS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please remove **X** to reply... ...Cleverly Disguised As A Responsible Adult...
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Yea, whatever... I got it! Best, Duncan At 13:52 03/04/2008 -0800, you wrote: Whoops, left out a set of zeroes. 1,000,000,000 is what I was supposed to type. :) snip
Re: [H] Flash drive(s)
The corporate world of today sounds much like the defence industry of the 90s. I worked in aerospoce in an evironment where everything was top secret and compartmentalized. If you wrote pi=3.14 on the wrong piece of paper and left it out over night or took it home by accident, you could end up in very serious trouble. Computers were tempested (yuck), walls lined with carpet, cameras everywhere, and you had to subject ot search on entry/exit if asked. Doors opened either by badge swipe or by code. They probably scan your eyeballs now. :) I was glad to get out of there (in some respects, anyway, the projects were cool) and it sounds like I'd be glad not to be corporate, too. - Original Message - From: Chris Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 9:46 PM Subject: Re: [H] Flash drive(s) Eh. Part of it is what employees think they can get away with. We have quite a few clients who go the extra length and deploy spector cne everywhere. :) If your in the intellectual property business you have to. If one of their mastercam drawings left their building, there would be a rash of quick firings. (I've been to one... Go out the night before, clean out employee desk, call them and meet them at Denny's in the morning with a crate of their crap. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 21:45:19 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Flash drive(s) so the personal computer is truly dead. Hayes Elkins wrote: It's pretty much the standard corporate environment now to have a PC with no floppy or ROM drive (or access disabled), usb ports turned off (save for KBM) and PCI slots disabled. Nobody 10 years ago though much of security concerns when taking 1.44MB floppies home, but when you can put a 32GB flash drive into a desktop and take the entire network shares with you - it raises a red flag on just why anybody needs access to a floppy/ROM/usb storage device in the first place. Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 19:35:51 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Flash drive(s) Security. If you were using a workstation that had access to government secrets, health records, financial records, etc., the powers that be would want to ensure that a rogue worker would not come in and copy that information into a small, easily concealed flash drive and walk off with secret data. DHSinclair wrote: Ben, Nice. Really nice! Is there some reason the power's-that-be did this? NO! Don't even hazard a guess! Will get tools, will live on. Not yet ready to play with Group Policy business, yet. I've learned that GP is really big mana and that I am not 'read' enough to play there. Fine. I will truck on. I am still a default kind of person (subject to M$ updates, that is). Thanks much. Best, Duncan _ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your fix. http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx
Re: [H] Flash drive(s)
At 01:26 PM 03/03/2008, Ben Ruset wrote: Would you want your personal info on a computer that would be easy for someone to copy data onto a USB disk and walk out undetected? Of course, no one could ever write down said personal information on a piece of paper. :) T
Re: [H] Flash drive(s)
Would you want your personal info on a computer that would be easy for someone to copy data onto a USB disk and walk out undetected? Anthony Q. Martin wrote: The corporate world of today sounds much like the defence industry of the 90s. I worked in aerospoce in an evironment where everything was top secret and compartmentalized. If you wrote pi=3.14 on the wrong piece of paper and left it out over night or took it home by accident, you could end up in very serious trouble. Computers were tempested (yuck), walls lined with carpet, cameras everywhere, and you had to subject ot search on entry/exit if asked. Doors opened either by badge swipe or by code. They probably scan your eyeballs now. :) I was glad to get out of there (in some respects, anyway, the projects were cool) and it sounds like I'd be glad not to be corporate, too.
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Well, it's easy to throw a brick through your window, but you still lock your front door, right? Thane Sherrington wrote: At 01:26 PM 03/03/2008, Ben Ruset wrote: Would you want your personal info on a computer that would be easy for someone to copy data onto a USB disk and walk out undetected? Of course, no one could ever write down said personal information on a piece of paper. :) T
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At 02:11 PM 03/03/2008, Ben Ruset wrote: Well, it's easy to throw a brick through your window, but you still lock your front door, right? Yes, and it's pretty silly to do that too. Of course, neither are done to protect one's self from unscrupulous people. It is to protect against the honest, who, in all likelihood, wouldn' t have done anything in the first place. BTW, I agree with the right of the organization to do whatever it wants to protect itself. I was just poking fun at the idea. T
Re: [H] Flash drive(s)
Computer World Magazine just posted an article reviewing 7 secure USB drives from major manufacturers. Some funny and sad stuff in there, especially what sort of gimmicks these vendors put in to try and make their drives secure. In the end they chose IronKey, but really putting free and open source TrueCrypt on any old USB key would do a better job (for cheaper) than almost all of these: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasicarticleId=9062527 I think I liked this quote the best: Kingston refused to say what encryption mode the device runs in, citing that it was proprietary information. - Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Wayne Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:57 PM 3/3/2008, Thane Sherrington typed: Of course, no one could ever write down said personal information on a piece of paper. :) Then Post Its must not be paper. ;-) ---+-- I'm a geek that loves to tweak.
[H] Flash drive(s)
I will soon receive several new USB 2GB flash drives (Crucial and Corsair). They are all newest(?) technology, I believe. I suspect they may arrive pre-formatted with stuff (programs) I may not wish or need to use. Looking for the collectives thoughts here. :) Should I immediately re-format (erase) the new FD's upon delivery before I start to use them? I have been using a Crucial USB (v1.1) 256MB flash drive since Jan 2004. It works completely as expected in the USB v2.0 environs of my current clients. This FD is now essential to me in keeping my LAN clients semi-neutral to on another, and, keeping critical data I choose NOT to store on any of my clients. I now depend on the FD more than the older floppy drives of old. Unfortunately, I have NOT been able to completely walk away from the old floppy drives yet. BIOS updates still seem to work better from a floppy drive than from either a local (c:\) directory, or, from a Flash Drive. But, I am still testing this function. In time, I believe the FD will eventually kill off the old floppy drive; but, that is JMHO. Best, Duncan
Re: [H] Flash drive(s)
Some people think U3 drives are a security risk, and they are starting to be blocked certain places? from being allowed to run their programs. Rick Glazier From: DHSinclair I will soon receive several new USB 2GB flash drives (Crucial and Corsair). They are all newest(?) technology, I believe. I suspect they may arrive pre-formatted with stuff (programs) I may not wish or need to use. Looking for the collectives thoughts here. :) Should I immediately re-format (erase) the new FD's upon delivery before I start to use them? I have been using a Crucial USB (v1.1) 256MB flash drive since Jan 2004. It works completely as expected in the USB v2.0 environs of my current clients. This FD is now essential to me in keeping my LAN clients semi-neutral to on another, and, keeping critical data I choose NOT to store on any of my clients. I now depend on the FD more than the older floppy drives of old. Unfortunately, I have NOT been able to completely walk away from the old floppy drives yet. BIOS updates still seem to work better from a floppy drive than from either a local (c:\) directory, or, from a Flash Drive. But, I am still testing this function. In time, I believe the FD will eventually kill off the old floppy drive; but, that is JMHO. Best, Duncan
Re: [H] Flash drive(s)
If there's stuff on the drive that you don't want or need, then by all means format it. It shouldn't be required to use the drive as a basic USB disk. DHSinclair wrote: I will soon receive several new USB 2GB flash drives (Crucial and Corsair). They are all newest(?) technology, I believe. I suspect they may arrive pre-formatted with stuff (programs) I may not wish or need to use. Looking for the collectives thoughts here. :) Should I immediately re-format (erase) the new FD's upon delivery before I start to use them? I have been using a Crucial USB (v1.1) 256MB flash drive since Jan 2004. It works completely as expected in the USB v2.0 environs of my current clients. This FD is now essential to me in keeping my LAN clients semi-neutral to on another, and, keeping critical data I choose NOT to store on any of my clients. I now depend on the FD more than the older floppy drives of old. Unfortunately, I have NOT been able to completely walk away from the old floppy drives yet. BIOS updates still seem to work better from a floppy drive than from either a local (c:\) directory, or, from a Flash Drive. But, I am still testing this function. In time, I believe the FD will eventually kill off the old floppy drive; but, that is JMHO. Best, Duncan
Re: [H] Flash drive(s)
Chris, Care to expand on last send? Don't understand Is this about old floppy drives? Best, Duncan At 21:45 03/02/2008 +, you wrote: I have lots of clients who have group policies that disallow usb removable media for (most clients). Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Rick Glazier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 16:47:21 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Flash drive(s) Some people think U3 drives are a security risk, and they are starting to be blocked certain places? from being allowed to run their programs. Rick Glazier From: DHSinclair I will soon receive several new USB 2GB flash drives (Crucial and Corsair). They are all newest(?) technology, I believe. I suspect they may arrive pre-formatted with stuff (programs) I may not wish or need to use. Looking for the collectives thoughts here. :) Should I immediately re-format (erase) the new FD's upon delivery before I start to use them? I have been using a Crucial USB (v1.1) 256MB flash drive since Jan 2004. It works completely as expected in the USB v2.0 environs of my current clients. This FD is now essential to me in keeping my LAN clients semi-neutral to on another, and, keeping critical data I choose NOT to store on any of my clients. I now depend on the FD more than the older floppy drives of old. Unfortunately, I have NOT been able to completely walk away from the old floppy drives yet. BIOS updates still seem to work better from a floppy drive than from either a local (c:\) directory, or, from a Flash Drive. But, I am still testing this function. In time, I believe the FD will eventually kill off the old floppy drive; but, that is JMHO. Best, Duncan
Re: [H] Flash drive(s)
Thanks Rick, You brought up the U3 business again. Can you expand on this? Best, Duncan At 16:47 03/02/2008 -0500, Rick wrote: Some people think U3 drives are a security risk, and they are starting to be blocked certain places? from being allowed to run their programs. Rick Glazier From: DHSinclair I will soon receive several new USB 2GB flash drives (Crucial and Corsair). They are all newest(?) technology, I believe. I suspect they may arrive pre-formatted with stuff (programs) I may not wish or need to use. Looking for the collectives thoughts here. :) Should I immediately re-format (erase) the new FD's upon delivery before I start to use them? I have been using a Crucial USB (v1.1) 256MB flash drive since Jan 2004. It works completely as expected in the USB v2.0 environs of my current clients. This FD is now essential to me in keeping my LAN clients semi-neutral to on another, and, keeping critical data I choose NOT to store on any of my clients. I now depend on the FD more than the older floppy drives of old. Unfortunately, I have NOT been able to completely walk away from the old floppy drives yet. BIOS updates still seem to work better from a floppy drive than from either a local (c:\) directory, or, from a Flash Drive. But, I am still testing this function. In time, I believe the FD will eventually kill off the old floppy drive; but, that is JMHO. Best, Duncan
Re: [H] Flash drive(s)
No, he's saying that he has a lot of clients that block the use of USB disks. DHSinclair wrote: Chris, Care to expand on last send? Don't understand Is this about old floppy drives? Best, Duncan
Re: [H] Flash drive(s)
Thanks Ben, Plan to treat the new FDs the same way as the old one. I am not worried about any warranty implications.regarding what might be pre-recorded. :) I suspect I am seeking info about this U3 business. Best, Duncan At 17:23 03/02/2008 -0500, you wrote: If there's stuff on the drive that you don't want or need, then by all means format it. It shouldn't be required to use the drive as a basic USB disk. DHSinclair wrote: I will soon receive several new USB 2GB flash drives (Crucial and Corsair). They are all newest(?) technology, I believe. I suspect they may arrive pre-formatted with stuff (programs) I may not wish or need to use. Looking for the collectives thoughts here. :) Should I immediately re-format (erase) the new FD's upon delivery before I start to use them? I have been using a Crucial USB (v1.1) 256MB flash drive since Jan 2004. It works completely as expected in the USB v2.0 environs of my current clients. This FD is now essential to me in keeping my LAN clients semi-neutral to on another, and, keeping critical data I choose NOT to store on any of my clients. I now depend on the FD more than the older floppy drives of old. Unfortunately, I have NOT been able to completely walk away from the old floppy drives yet. BIOS updates still seem to work better from a floppy drive than from either a local (c:\) directory, or, from a Flash Drive. But, I am still testing this function. In time, I believe the FD will eventually kill off the old floppy drive; but, that is JMHO. Best, Duncan
Re: [H] Flash drive(s)
IF they are U3 drives, the U3 people have always stated you NEED to use their un-install program to remove the auto-mounting of the emulated CD-ROM drive. (Don't know for sure as I never removed any of mine.) Rick Glazier From: Ben Ruset If there's stuff on the drive that you don't want or need, then by all means format it. It shouldn't be required to use the drive as a basic USB disk.
Re: [H] Flash drive(s)
Thanks Ben! I was not aware of this, other than just shutting down USB (on current HDW). I thought that USB was now a default protocol. Hmm.? Best, Duncan At 17:44 03/02/2008 -0500, you wrote: No, he's saying that he has a lot of clients that block the use of USB disks. DHSinclair wrote: Chris, Care to expand on last send? Don't understand Is this about old floppy drives? Best, Duncan
Re: [H] Flash drive(s)
Not sure if it has been explained yet, but a lot of modern USB sticks come with U3. This is sort of useful in that it will autolaunch programs and stuff when you stick the key in. But I just see it as one huge security risk and on machines where you aren't admin it can have problems working anyways. Here's what you are looking for, the official U3 uninstall program: http://www.u3.com/uninstall/ I know of no other good way to get rid of all the U3 auto-installer crap than use the tool. In the past I've even tried reformatted and deleting partitions from the thumb drive and the darn thing always came back. I would also HIGHLY suggest that you download Truecrypt 5.0 and setup you USB disk in Traveller Mode. It is free, very simple to use (the Truecrypt manual is great) and it will provide peace of mind if you keep personal/private data on your key and happen to lose it: http://truecrypt.org - Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:04 PM, DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will soon receive several new USB 2GB flash drives (Crucial and Corsair). They are all newest(?) technology, I believe. I suspect they may arrive pre-formatted with stuff (programs) I may not wish or need to use. Looking for the collectives thoughts here. :) Should I immediately re-format (erase) the new FD's upon delivery before I start to use them? I have been using a Crucial USB (v1.1) 256MB flash drive since Jan 2004. It works completely as expected in the USB v2.0 environs of my current clients. This FD is now essential to me in keeping my LAN clients semi-neutral to on another, and, keeping critical data I choose NOT to store on any of my clients. I now depend on the FD more than the older floppy drives of old. Unfortunately, I have NOT been able to completely walk away from the old floppy drives yet. BIOS updates still seem to work better from a floppy drive than from either a local (c:\) directory, or, from a Flash Drive. But, I am still testing this function. In time, I believe the FD will eventually kill off the old floppy drive; but, that is JMHO. Best, Duncan
Re: [H] Flash drive(s)
Thanks Rick, I'll read up on this U3 business. Still have a few days. :) Best, Duncan At 17:51 03/02/2008 -0500, you wrote: IF they are U3 drives, the U3 people have always stated you NEED to use their un-install program to remove the auto-mounting of the emulated CD-ROM drive. (Don't know for sure as I never removed any of mine.) Rick Glazier From: Ben Ruset If there's stuff on the drive that you don't want or need, then by all means format it. It shouldn't be required to use the drive as a basic USB disk.
Re: [H] Flash drive(s)
Brian, Thank you very much. I believe I now have at least the basics to figure this small new problem out. Yes, I do NOT wish any of the new FDs to auto-boot anything. I wish for them to be (appear) as just another removable drive in whatever computer they get plugged into. I am off to collect and read some more this evening. The Collective strikes again.. :) BTW, Thank you for your service, Sir. Best, Duncan At 17:58 03/02/2008 -0500, you wrote: Not sure if it has been explained yet, but a lot of modern USB sticks come with U3. This is sort of useful in that it will autolaunch programs and stuff when you stick the key in. But I just see it as one huge security risk and on machines where you aren't admin it can have problems working anyways. Here's what you are looking for, the official U3 uninstall program: http://www.u3.com/uninstall/ I know of no other good way to get rid of all the U3 auto-installer crap than use the tool. In the past I've even tried reformatted and deleting partitions from the thumb drive and the darn thing always came back. I would also HIGHLY suggest that you download Truecrypt 5.0 and setup you USB disk in Traveller Mode. It is free, very simple to use (the Truecrypt manual is great) and it will provide peace of mind if you keep personal/private data on your key and happen to lose it: http://truecrypt.org - Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:04 PM, DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will soon receive several new USB 2GB flash drives (Crucial and Corsair). They are all newest(?) technology, I believe. I suspect they may arrive pre-formatted with stuff (programs) I may not wish or need to use. Looking for the collectives thoughts here. :) Should I immediately re-format (erase) the new FD's upon delivery before I start to use them? I have been using a Crucial USB (v1.1) 256MB flash drive since Jan 2004. It works completely as expected in the USB v2.0 environs of my current clients. This FD is now essential to me in keeping my LAN clients semi-neutral to on another, and, keeping critical data I choose NOT to store on any of my clients. I now depend on the FD more than the older floppy drives of old. Unfortunately, I have NOT been able to completely walk away from the old floppy drives yet. BIOS updates still seem to work better from a floppy drive than from either a local (c:\) directory, or, from a Flash Drive. But, I am still testing this function. In time, I believe the FD will eventually kill off the old floppy drive; but, that is JMHO. Best, Duncan
Re: [H] Flash drive(s)
Ben, Nice. Really nice! Is there some reason the power's-that-be did this? NO! Don't even hazard a guess! Will get tools, will live on. Not yet ready to play with Group Policy business, yet. I've learned that GP is really big mana and that I am not 'read' enough to play there. Fine. I will truck on. I am still a default kind of person (subject to M$ updates, that is). Thanks much. Best, Duncan At 18:40 03/02/2008 -0500, you wrote: With Windows and Group Policy you can disable things like removable USB disks while leaving the physical USB ports powered and accessible for things like USB keyboards and mice. DHSinclair wrote: Thanks Ben, Plan to treat the new FDs the same way as the old one. I am not worried about any warranty implications.regarding what might be pre-recorded. :) I suspect I am seeking info about this U3 business. Best, Duncan
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At 03:16 PM 3/2/2008, you wrote: Brian, Thank you very much. I believe I now have at least the basics to figure this small new problem out. Yes, I do NOT wish any of the new FDs to auto-boot anything. I wish for them to be (appear) as just another removable drive I think it is very unlikely that you ordered a U3 drive... they are more expensive then a regular drive, and you have to look for them. In the last six months I bought a 8GB PNY which is really slow and a 8GB Corsair which is really fast. Neither one of them is U3.
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Security. If you were using a workstation that had access to government secrets, health records, financial records, etc., the powers that be would want to ensure that a rogue worker would not come in and copy that information into a small, easily concealed flash drive and walk off with secret data. DHSinclair wrote: Ben, Nice. Really nice! Is there some reason the power's-that-be did this? NO! Don't even hazard a guess! Will get tools, will live on. Not yet ready to play with Group Policy business, yet. I've learned that GP is really big mana and that I am not 'read' enough to play there. Fine. I will truck on. I am still a default kind of person (subject to M$ updates, that is). Thanks much. Best, Duncan
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Or one would hope that was the situation. - Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 7:35 PM, Ben Ruset [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Security. If you were using a workstation that had access to government secrets, health records, financial records, etc., the powers that be would want to ensure that a rogue worker would not come in and copy that information into a small, easily concealed flash drive and walk off with secret data. DHSinclair wrote: Ben, Nice. Really nice! Is there some reason the power's-that-be did this? NO! Don't even hazard a guess! Will get tools, will live on. Not yet ready to play with Group Policy business, yet. I've learned that GP is really big mana and that I am not 'read' enough to play there. Fine. I will truck on. I am still a default kind of person (subject to M$ updates, that is). Thanks much. Best, Duncan
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See Brians message. Sun, 2 Mar 2008 14:58:43 -0800 (PST) It has the link and confirms things I said eariler. Rick Glazier From: DHSinclair To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [H] Flash drive(s) Thanks Rick, You brought up the U3 business again. Can you expand on this?
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Others are saying -- maybe you don't have a U3 drive. They are marked with the LOGO if they are. Only you can see the drive and can tell us what it is... Rick Glazier From: DHSinclair To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [H] Flash drive(s) Thanks Rick, I'll read up on this U3 business. Still have a few days. :) Best, Duncan
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Winterlight, Thanks for that info. I was hoping that none of the new devices would be harnessed with U3, but it has been some time since I've spent money on new tech (mostly old replacement stuff). Am happy to read that I might beat this latest trend. I will wait and see. At worst, I'll store Ben's share for future buys. At best, I get bigger versions of what I've been using/(testing) for the last 4 years. I can live with this! Thank you for this view. (BTW, Love the Matrox cards!).. :) Best, Duncan At 16:27 03/02/2008 -0800, you wrote: At 03:16 PM 3/2/2008, you wrote: Brian, Thank you very much. I believe I now have at least the basics to figure this small new problem out. Yes, I do NOT wish any of the new FDs to auto-boot anything. I wish for them to be (appear) as just another removable drive I think it is very unlikely that you ordered a U3 drive... they are more expensive then a regular drive, and you have to look for them. In the last six months I bought a 8GB PNY which is really slow and a 8GB Corsair which is really fast. Neither one of them is U3.
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Well, security is only as good as the policies that the organization decides on, the technology used, and the skill of the people implementing them. Brian Weeden wrote: Or one would hope that was the situation. - Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation
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Ben, Thanks. I do comprehend the gov't connection. It does make much sense. Fortunately, I do not do any gov't work anymore. But, I am sensitive to those that do. Gov't security is only limited to my past personal records/business. Yes; the stuff of all future phishing attacks. That will be my personal task to lock down. No harm, no foul... :) Best, Duncan At 19:35 03/02/2008 -0500, you wrote: Security. If you were using a workstation that had access to government secrets, health records, financial records, etc., the powers that be would want to ensure that a rogue worker would not come in and copy that information into a small, easily concealed flash drive and walk off with secret data. DHSinclair wrote: Ben, Nice. Really nice! Is there some reason the power's-that-be did this? NO! Don't even hazard a guess! Will get tools, will live on. Not yet ready to play with Group Policy business, yet. I've learned that GP is really big mana and that I am not 'read' enough to play there. Fine. I will truck on. I am still a default kind of person (subject to M$ updates, that is). Thanks much. Best, Duncan
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Rick, Got it! Saved it. Agree with it! Best, Duncan At 19:42 03/02/2008 -0500, you wrote: See Brians message. Sun, 2 Mar 2008 14:58:43 -0800 (PST) It has the link and confirms things I said eariler. Rick Glazier From: DHSinclair To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 5:45 PM Subject: Re: [H] Flash drive(s) Thanks Rick, You brought up the U3 business again. Can you expand on this?
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Brian, Where is the straight ahead sw routine to kill/remove the U3 business?? From your link all I get is a webpage that try's to lame me about what I plan to do (kill any U3 on the flash drive). One of those, Are you really sure you want to do this? Well, YES. I am sure. Why else did I navigate to this link for? What did I miss? Just a bit confused... :) I'll go back and read it again... Best, Duncan At 17:58 03/02/2008 -0500, you wrote: Not sure if it has been explained yet, but a lot of modern USB sticks come with U3. This is sort of useful in that it will autolaunch programs and stuff when you stick the key in. But I just see it as one huge security risk and on machines where you aren't admin it can have problems working anyways. Here's what you are looking for, the official U3 uninstall program: http://www.u3.com/uninstall/ I know of no other good way to get rid of all the U3 auto-installer crap than use the tool. In the past I've even tried reformatted and deleting partitions from the thumb drive and the darn thing always came back. I would also HIGHLY suggest that you download Truecrypt 5.0 and setup you USB disk in Traveller Mode. It is free, very simple to use (the Truecrypt manual is great) and it will provide peace of mind if you keep personal/private data on your key and happen to lose it: http://truecrypt.org - Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:04 PM, DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will soon receive several new USB 2GB flash drives (Crucial and Corsair). They are all newest(?) technology, I believe. I suspect they may arrive pre-formatted with stuff (programs) I may not wish or need to use. Looking for the collectives thoughts here. :) Should I immediately re-format (erase) the new FD's upon delivery before I start to use them? I have been using a Crucial USB (v1.1) 256MB flash drive since Jan 2004. It works completely as expected in the USB v2.0 environs of my current clients. This FD is now essential to me in keeping my LAN clients semi-neutral to on another, and, keeping critical data I choose NOT to store on any of my clients. I now depend on the FD more than the older floppy drives of old. Unfortunately, I have NOT been able to completely walk away from the old floppy drives yet. BIOS updates still seem to work better from a floppy drive than from either a local (c:\) directory, or, from a Flash Drive. But, I am still testing this function. In time, I believe the FD will eventually kill off the old floppy drive; but, that is JMHO. Best, Duncan
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Brian, I am very thick. I did finally navigate to: http://www.u3.com/uninstall/uninstall.aspx Oddly, none of the choices given fit my circumstances. Nothing to download for local use. So, I'll just format my new FDs and get on with life. I will look at anything added to the FDs, and, maybe save some of it. I do not think I'll get hit with U3 just yet. Maybe later. Thank you for the links. Most helpful (once I drilled them out). Thank you. Best, Duncan At 17:58 03/02/2008 -0500, you wrote: Not sure if it has been explained yet, but a lot of modern USB sticks come with U3. This is sort of useful in that it will autolaunch programs and stuff when you stick the key in. But I just see it as one huge security risk and on machines where you aren't admin it can have problems working anyways. Here's what you are looking for, the official U3 uninstall program: http://www.u3.com/uninstall/ I know of no other good way to get rid of all the U3 auto-installer crap than use the tool. In the past I've even tried reformatted and deleting partitions from the thumb drive and the darn thing always came back. I would also HIGHLY suggest that you download Truecrypt 5.0 and setup you USB disk in Traveller Mode. It is free, very simple to use (the Truecrypt manual is great) and it will provide peace of mind if you keep personal/private data on your key and happen to lose it: http://truecrypt.org - Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:04 PM, DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will soon receive several new USB 2GB flash drives (Crucial and Corsair). They are all newest(?) technology, I believe. I suspect they may arrive pre-formatted with stuff (programs) I may not wish or need to use. Looking for the collectives thoughts here. :) Should I immediately re-format (erase) the new FD's upon delivery before I start to use them? I have been using a Crucial USB (v1.1) 256MB flash drive since Jan 2004. It works completely as expected in the USB v2.0 environs of my current clients. This FD is now essential to me in keeping my LAN clients semi-neutral to on another, and, keeping critical data I choose NOT to store on any of my clients. I now depend on the FD more than the older floppy drives of old. Unfortunately, I have NOT been able to completely walk away from the old floppy drives yet. BIOS updates still seem to work better from a floppy drive than from either a local (c:\) directory, or, from a Flash Drive. But, I am still testing this function. In time, I believe the FD will eventually kill off the old floppy drive; but, that is JMHO. Best, Duncan
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They definitely don't make it easy do they. You have to navigate through 4 different pages each time saying yes, I want to remove this crap from my USB drive. On the link you just sent, click No Thanks, Continue will take you to another page where you can click on the button to download the software. Having to jump through so many hoops just to uninstall something is a warning sign to me that I probably don't want that stuff anywhere near me. - Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 8:45 PM, DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian, I am very thick. I did finally navigate to: http://www.u3.com/uninstall/uninstall.aspx Oddly, none of the choices given fit my circumstances. Nothing to download for local use. So, I'll just format my new FDs and get on with life. I will look at anything added to the FDs, and, maybe save some of it. I do not think I'll get hit with U3 just yet. Maybe later. Thank you for the links. Most helpful (once I drilled them out). Thank you. Best, Duncan At 17:58 03/02/2008 -0500, you wrote: Not sure if it has been explained yet, but a lot of modern USB sticks come with U3. This is sort of useful in that it will autolaunch programs and stuff when you stick the key in. But I just see it as one huge security risk and on machines where you aren't admin it can have problems working anyways. Here's what you are looking for, the official U3 uninstall program: http://www.u3.com/uninstall/ I know of no other good way to get rid of all the U3 auto-installer crap than use the tool. In the past I've even tried reformatted and deleting partitions from the thumb drive and the darn thing always came back. I would also HIGHLY suggest that you download Truecrypt 5.0 and setup you USB disk in Traveller Mode. It is free, very simple to use (the Truecrypt manual is great) and it will provide peace of mind if you keep personal/private data on your key and happen to lose it: http://truecrypt.org - Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:04 PM, DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will soon receive several new USB 2GB flash drives (Crucial and Corsair). They are all newest(?) technology, I believe. I suspect they may arrive pre-formatted with stuff (programs) I may not wish or need to use. Looking for the collectives thoughts here. :) Should I immediately re-format (erase) the new FD's upon delivery before I start to use them? I have been using a Crucial USB (v1.1) 256MB flash drive since Jan 2004. It works completely as expected in the USB v2.0 environs of my current clients. This FD is now essential to me in keeping my LAN clients semi-neutral to on another, and, keeping critical data I choose NOT to store on any of my clients. I now depend on the FD more than the older floppy drives of old. Unfortunately, I have NOT been able to completely walk away from the old floppy drives yet. BIOS updates still seem to work better from a floppy drive than from either a local (c:\) directory, or, from a Flash Drive. But, I am still testing this function. In time, I believe the FD will eventually kill off the old floppy drive; but, that is JMHO. Best, Duncan
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Brian, Thank you. CHA-CHING! You have this down. I can presume that you have been here more than a few times before. Found it, and will use it if necessary. Link filed. Yes, with this many hoops I know I do not need any of it. Perhaps I asked an offhand question, but, I received graduate-level help/answers. Thank you to all of the collective on this one. Best, Duncan At 20:48 03/02/2008 -0500, you wrote: They definitely don't make it easy do they. You have to navigate through 4 different pages each time saying yes, I want to remove this crap from my USB drive. On the link you just sent, click No Thanks, Continue will take you to another page where you can click on the button to download the software. Having to jump through so many hoops just to uninstall something is a warning sign to me that I probably don't want that stuff anywhere near me. - Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 8:45 PM, DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brian, I am very thick. I did finally navigate to: http://www.u3.com/uninstall/uninstall.aspx Oddly, none of the choices given fit my circumstances. Nothing to download for local use. So, I'll just format my new FDs and get on with life. I will look at anything added to the FDs, and, maybe save some of it. I do not think I'll get hit with U3 just yet. Maybe later. Thank you for the links. Most helpful (once I drilled them out). Thank you. Best, Duncan At 17:58 03/02/2008 -0500, you wrote: Not sure if it has been explained yet, but a lot of modern USB sticks come with U3. This is sort of useful in that it will autolaunch programs and stuff when you stick the key in. But I just see it as one huge security risk and on machines where you aren't admin it can have problems working anyways. Here's what you are looking for, the official U3 uninstall program: http://www.u3.com/uninstall/ I know of no other good way to get rid of all the U3 auto-installer crap than use the tool. In the past I've even tried reformatted and deleting partitions from the thumb drive and the darn thing always came back. I would also HIGHLY suggest that you download Truecrypt 5.0 and setup you USB disk in Traveller Mode. It is free, very simple to use (the Truecrypt manual is great) and it will provide peace of mind if you keep personal/private data on your key and happen to lose it: http://truecrypt.org - Brian Weeden Technical Consultant Secure World Foundation On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 3:04 PM, DHSinclair [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I will soon receive several new USB 2GB flash drives (Crucial and Corsair). They are all newest(?) technology, I believe. I suspect they may arrive pre-formatted with stuff (programs) I may not wish or need to use. Looking for the collectives thoughts here. :) Should I immediately re-format (erase) the new FD's upon delivery before I start to use them? I have been using a Crucial USB (v1.1) 256MB flash drive since Jan 2004. It works completely as expected in the USB v2.0 environs of my current clients. This FD is now essential to me in keeping my LAN clients semi-neutral to on another, and, keeping critical data I choose NOT to store on any of my clients. I now depend on the FD more than the older floppy drives of old. Unfortunately, I have NOT been able to completely walk away from the old floppy drives yet. BIOS updates still seem to work better from a floppy drive than from either a local (c:\) directory, or, from a Flash Drive. But, I am still testing this function. In time, I believe the FD will eventually kill off the old floppy drive; but, that is JMHO. Best, Duncan
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It's pretty much the standard corporate environment now to have a PC with no floppy or ROM drive (or access disabled), usb ports turned off (save for KBM) and PCI slots disabled. Nobody 10 years ago though much of security concerns when taking 1.44MB floppies home, but when you can put a 32GB flash drive into a desktop and take the entire network shares with you - it raises a red flag on just why anybody needs access to a floppy/ROM/usb storage device in the first place. Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 19:35:51 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Flash drive(s) Security. If you were using a workstation that had access to government secrets, health records, financial records, etc., the powers that be would want to ensure that a rogue worker would not come in and copy that information into a small, easily concealed flash drive and walk off with secret data. DHSinclair wrote: Ben, Nice. Really nice! Is there some reason the power's-that-be did this? NO! Don't even hazard a guess! Will get tools, will live on. Not yet ready to play with Group Policy business, yet. I've learned that GP is really big mana and that I am not 'read' enough to play there. Fine. I will truck on. I am still a default kind of person (subject to M$ updates, that is). Thanks much. Best, Duncan _ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your fix. http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx
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so the personal computer is truly dead. Hayes Elkins wrote: It's pretty much the standard corporate environment now to have a PC with no floppy or ROM drive (or access disabled), usb ports turned off (save for KBM) and PCI slots disabled. Nobody 10 years ago though much of security concerns when taking 1.44MB floppies home, but when you can put a 32GB flash drive into a desktop and take the entire network shares with you - it raises a red flag on just why anybody needs access to a floppy/ROM/usb storage device in the first place. Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 19:35:51 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Flash drive(s) Security. If you were using a workstation that had access to government secrets, health records, financial records, etc., the powers that be would want to ensure that a rogue worker would not come in and copy that information into a small, easily concealed flash drive and walk off with secret data. DHSinclair wrote: Ben, Nice. Really nice! Is there some reason the power's-that-be did this? NO! Don't even hazard a guess! Will get tools, will live on. Not yet ready to play with Group Policy business, yet. I've learned that GP is really big mana and that I am not 'read' enough to play there. Fine. I will truck on. I am still a default kind of person (subject to M$ updates, that is). Thanks much. Best, Duncan _ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your fix. http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx
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Eh. Part of it is what employees think they can get away with. We have quite a few clients who go the extra length and deploy spector cne everywhere. :) If your in the intellectual property business you have to. If one of their mastercam drawings left their building, there would be a rash of quick firings. (I've been to one... Go out the night before, clean out employee desk, call them and meet them at Denny's in the morning with a crate of their crap. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 21:45:19 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Flash drive(s) so the personal computer is truly dead. Hayes Elkins wrote: It's pretty much the standard corporate environment now to have a PC with no floppy or ROM drive (or access disabled), usb ports turned off (save for KBM) and PCI slots disabled. Nobody 10 years ago though much of security concerns when taking 1.44MB floppies home, but when you can put a 32GB flash drive into a desktop and take the entire network shares with you - it raises a red flag on just why anybody needs access to a floppy/ROM/usb storage device in the first place. Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 19:35:51 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Flash drive(s) Security. If you were using a workstation that had access to government secrets, health records, financial records, etc., the powers that be would want to ensure that a rogue worker would not come in and copy that information into a small, easily concealed flash drive and walk off with secret data. DHSinclair wrote: Ben, Nice. Really nice! Is there some reason the power's-that-be did this? NO! Don't even hazard a guess! Will get tools, will live on. Not yet ready to play with Group Policy business, yet. I've learned that GP is really big mana and that I am not 'read' enough to play there. Fine. I will truck on. I am still a default kind of person (subject to M$ updates, that is). Thanks much. Best, Duncan _ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your fix. http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx
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Thanks Hayes, I do understand this view. I was around when we blew these concerns off the table. Funny how technology has come back to bite us in the butt. OUCH! LOL! Best, Duncan At 21:37 03/02/2008 -0500, you wrote: It's pretty much the standard corporate environment now to have a PC with no floppy or ROM drive (or access disabled), usb ports turned off (save for KBM) and PCI slots disabled. Nobody 10 years ago though much of security concerns when taking 1.44MB floppies home, but when you can put a 32GB flash drive into a desktop and take the entire network shares with you - it raises a red flag on just why anybody needs access to a floppy/ROM/usb storage device in the first place. Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 19:35:51 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Flash drive(s) Security. If you were using a workstation that had access to government secrets, health records, financial records, etc., the powers that be would want to ensure that a rogue worker would not come in and copy that information into a small, easily concealed flash drive and walk off with secret data. DHSinclair wrote: Ben, Nice. Really nice! Is there some reason the power's-that-be did this? NO! Don't even hazard a guess! Will get tools, will live on. Not yet ready to play with Group Policy business, yet. I've learned that GP is really big mana and that I am not 'read' enough to play there. Fine. I will truck on. I am still a default kind of person (subject to M$ updates, that is). Thanks much. Best, Duncan _ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your fix. http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx
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Chris, Been there, and done that too! Way many years ago! Odd. It still goes on. Gosh! We are having just way too much fun. With much better sw. But, JMHO. Best, Duncan At 02:46 03/03/2008 +, you wrote: Eh. Part of it is what employees think they can get away with. We have quite a few clients who go the extra length and deploy spector cne everywhere. :) If your in the intellectual property business you have to. If one of their mastercam drawings left their building, there would be a rash of quick firings. (I've been to one... Go out the night before, clean out employee desk, call them and meet them at Denny's in the morning with a crate of their crap. Sent via BlackBerry by ATT -Original Message- From: Anthony Q. Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2008 21:45:19 To:hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Flash drive(s) so the personal computer is truly dead. Hayes Elkins wrote: It's pretty much the standard corporate environment now to have a PC with no floppy or ROM drive (or access disabled), usb ports turned off (save for KBM) and PCI slots disabled. Nobody 10 years ago though much of security concerns when taking 1.44MB floppies home, but when you can put a 32GB flash drive into a desktop and take the entire network shares with you - it raises a red flag on just why anybody needs access to a floppy/ROM/usb storage device in the first place. Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2008 19:35:51 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardware@hardwaregroup.com Subject: Re: [H] Flash drive(s) Security. If you were using a workstation that had access to government secrets, health records, financial records, etc., the powers that be would want to ensure that a rogue worker would not come in and copy that information into a small, easily concealed flash drive and walk off with secret data. DHSinclair wrote: Ben, Nice. Really nice! Is there some reason the power's-that-be did this? NO! Don't even hazard a guess! Will get tools, will live on. Not yet ready to play with Group Policy business, yet. I've learned that GP is really big mana and that I am not 'read' enough to play there. Fine. I will truck on. I am still a default kind of person (subject to M$ updates, that is). Thanks much. Best, Duncan _ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your fix. http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx
