Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-10 Thread gerald

OK SORRY for not being Specific.

I am trying to Play Deathmatch with "Half-Life1."
I am unable to Join ANY server so I can "play" as in Shoot & Kill the other
opponents in the server & recieve points in game.
I get this error message "Failed to Contact Game Server" then is just says
disconnected. it tries to join the server 3 times then I get that error
message then it just Disconnects.

I have the required ports Open and forwarded in my Router "DLink DGL-4300"
Gaming Router. I had mentioned Before I am Able to Join in Counter-Strike
and Play as in Shoot & Kill the Terrorists in GAME. I'm SORRY if that
confuses you technical people I just wanted to mention that to let you know
that I am Able to Join Some Games on STEAM just NOT Halflife 1.


THNX
Gerald
- Original Message -
From: "Scott Tuttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 1:11 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



As another poster has said you are not being specific enough.

You there is not multiplayer half life game.  There is half-life death
match
which is multiplayer.  You really need to BE specific.

You say you want to host and play and join other servers wich you are
unable
to do.  What does "unable" mean? Do you get any type of message or
anything
specific you can say.  You are speaking to very technical people and to
get
proper support you must you must provide us with enough information to be
able to help you.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 6:59 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

Hi, I am trying to Host and Play and Join other servers which
I am unable
too.  I can play the game Offline but I wanna Host and join
other servers.
- Original Message -
From: "Scott Tuttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 3:47 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


>I suggest you open ports that need opening.
>
> This does not mean forward them.
>
> When you say run half life what do you mean?  I assume half
life doesn't
> need ports open.
>
> Do you get any messages when you as you say "run Halflife"?
>
> What exactly are you trying to do right here.  What
specifically does and
> does not work?  You just mean running these as clients or
are you doing
> something else?
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
>> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 11:35 PM
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>>
>> OK I did delete ALL the STEAM ports I had setup I then tried
>> to run Halflife
>> No go. I then checked they othere suggestions I uninstalled
>> and reinstalled
>> Steam & Halflife it still does Not work. I then tried
>> Counterstrike Success
>> So I know my Setup is correct it is just something about
>> Halflife?? What
>> thos is puzzling me. I also Called up Dlink to see if it
>> possibly a Router
>> defect or something but they said it is on the Steam side
of things??
>>
>> Could Steam of Banned my IP or somnething ??  it is strange
>> that Counter
>> Strike works but Half Life does Not.
>> THNX for All the responces so far
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Scott Tuttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:14 PM
>> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>>
>>
>> > Delete all your forwards also...
>> >
>> > The only forwards you need to setup for a dedicated server are:
>> >
>> > Port: 27015
>> > Protocols: TCP and UDP
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:01 PM
>> >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> >> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>> >>
>> >> My advice start from scratch (if it's worth anything)
>> >>
>> >> I find if I have had Issues with software including steam
>> >> I get up early (brain works better)
>> >> Start a text file and writing your every move!
>> >> Put the box on your local network
>> >> Download the latest server installer
>> >> Set up console script to create your new account Set up
>> console update
>> >> script Start a new server install 

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-10 Thread gerald

@ BART

Hi Bart I tried what you said I did the File integrity check that checked
out OK!!

Also I am Unable to join in a multiplayer game or HOST a MP game in
Half-Life1.

I tried the console method and recieved this error hopefully you or someone
understands what is means:

http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=64&t=001296


THNX
- Original Message -
From: "Bart King" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 11:06 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



Hello,

When you say "cannot join or host on Half-Life", what do you mean
specifically?

Are you talking about Half-Life 1 (the original version of Half-Life) or
Half-Life 2?  Half-Life 1 has a multiplayer deathmatch mode, but this
does not use Source.  Half-Life 2 also has a deathmatch mode, but is
entirely separate from Half-Life 2 the game.

If you are unable to connect to any Half-Life 1 deathmatch server or
Half-Life 2 deathmatch server, it's difficult to make suggestions
because there are so many factors to consider (especially since HL1 and
HL2 use rather different engines and therefore different networking
sub-systems).

In the console of the game, you can find out a bit more information when
you connect to a server.  Find an IP address of a server to connect to,
then in the console in the game, type:

developer 2
connect xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:y

A loading screen may appear, and stuff whiz past in the console, but at
the point it fails, your console will contain more information about why
it failed.  If its purely to do with not being able to connect (e.g. you
get a timeout, or the client fails to connect after four attempts),
something on your machine or network is blocking the connection.

Also, make sure your local game files are intact.  In STEAM, right-click
the game, Properties, Local Files and click "Verify integrity of game
cache".

Aside from knowing exactly what you are trying to do (and what game you
are trying to connect to), I can't give any more assistance.

Cheers,
--
Bart King
http://www.bart666.com -- +44 781 219 5654

(Mr. Technical Support ;)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: 10 October 2006 15:32
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

Hi aLL<

I had just mentioned Counter-Strike worked as to show that I am able to
join and I am setup Properly.
I just cannot join or HOST on Half-Life for some reason?? I see the
servers come up I just cannot join them??


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RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-10 Thread Scott Tuttle
As another poster has said you are not being specific enough.

You there is not multiplayer half life game.  There is half-life death match
which is multiplayer.  You really need to BE specific.

You say you want to host and play and join other servers wich you are unable
to do.  What does "unable" mean? Do you get any type of message or anything
specific you can say.  You are speaking to very technical people and to get
proper support you must you must provide us with enough information to be
able to help you.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
> Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 6:59 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
> Hi, I am trying to Host and Play and Join other servers which
> I am unable
> too.  I can play the game Offline but I wanna Host and join
> other servers.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Scott Tuttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 3:47 PM
> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
>
> >I suggest you open ports that need opening.
> >
> > This does not mean forward them.
> >
> > When you say run half life what do you mean?  I assume half
> life doesn't
> > need ports open.
> >
> > Do you get any messages when you as you say "run Halflife"?
> >
> > What exactly are you trying to do right here.  What
> specifically does and
> > does not work?  You just mean running these as clients or
> are you doing
> > something else?
> >
> >> -Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 11:35 PM
> >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >>
> >> OK I did delete ALL the STEAM ports I had setup I then tried
> >> to run Halflife
> >> No go. I then checked they othere suggestions I uninstalled
> >> and reinstalled
> >> Steam & Halflife it still does Not work. I then tried
> >> Counterstrike Success
> >> So I know my Setup is correct it is just something about
> >> Halflife?? What
> >> thos is puzzling me. I also Called up Dlink to see if it
> >> possibly a Router
> >> defect or something but they said it is on the Steam side
> of things??
> >>
> >> Could Steam of Banned my IP or somnething ??  it is strange
> >> that Counter
> >> Strike works but Half Life does Not.
> >> THNX for All the responces so far
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Scott Tuttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:14 PM
> >> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >>
> >>
> >> > Delete all your forwards also...
> >> >
> >> > The only forwards you need to setup for a dedicated server are:
> >> >
> >> > Port: 27015
> >> > Protocols: TCP and UDP
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> -Original Message-
> >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:01 PM
> >> >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >> >> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >> >>
> >> >> My advice start from scratch (if it's worth anything)
> >> >>
> >> >> I find if I have had Issues with software including steam
> >> >> I get up early (brain works better)
> >> >> Start a text file and writing your every move!
> >> >> Put the box on your local network
> >> >> Download the latest server installer
> >> >> Set up console script to create your new account Set up
> >> console update
> >> >> script Start a new server install with a new login pass
> >> >> (don't use any of
> >> >> your old server for anything)
> >> >> Once you have a fresh copy "SAVE AS" as to give you a backup
> >> >> :) and continue
> >> >> saving through the build procedure so you have reference.
> >> >> Up date the server again save after changes :) Build a basic
> >> >> Start script ad
> >> >> your basic configs Make sure your using the right executable
>

RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-10 Thread Bart King
Hello,

When you say "cannot join or host on Half-Life", what do you mean
specifically?

Are you talking about Half-Life 1 (the original version of Half-Life) or
Half-Life 2?  Half-Life 1 has a multiplayer deathmatch mode, but this
does not use Source.  Half-Life 2 also has a deathmatch mode, but is
entirely separate from Half-Life 2 the game.

If you are unable to connect to any Half-Life 1 deathmatch server or
Half-Life 2 deathmatch server, it's difficult to make suggestions
because there are so many factors to consider (especially since HL1 and
HL2 use rather different engines and therefore different networking
sub-systems).

In the console of the game, you can find out a bit more information when
you connect to a server.  Find an IP address of a server to connect to,
then in the console in the game, type:

developer 2
connect xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:y

A loading screen may appear, and stuff whiz past in the console, but at
the point it fails, your console will contain more information about why
it failed.  If its purely to do with not being able to connect (e.g. you
get a timeout, or the client fails to connect after four attempts),
something on your machine or network is blocking the connection.

Also, make sure your local game files are intact.  In STEAM, right-click
the game, Properties, Local Files and click "Verify integrity of game
cache".

Aside from knowing exactly what you are trying to do (and what game you
are trying to connect to), I can't give any more assistance.

Cheers,
--
Bart King
http://www.bart666.com -- +44 781 219 5654

(Mr. Technical Support ;)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: 10 October 2006 15:32
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

Hi aLL<

I had just mentioned Counter-Strike worked as to show that I am able to
join and I am setup Properly.
I just cannot join or HOST on Half-Life for some reason?? I see the
servers come up I just cannot join them??


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Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-10 Thread gerald

Hi aLL<

I had just mentioned Counter-Strike worked as to show that I am able to join
and I am setup Properly.
I just cannot join or HOST on Half-Life for some reason?? I see the servers
come up I just cannot join them??
- Original Message -
From: "Edward Luna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 6:39 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


Nice post Bart.  One small comment if I may.  I don't believe it is
necessary to forward any port other than the game port in order to create
the required "listen" (initial connection) port for hl.   This single port
forwarding for TCP/IP only, has been working in my WRT54G Linksys router for
years for both hldm and srcds.

-Original Message-
From: Bart King [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 6:02 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


Hi there,

Since this thread is going off on some really wild tangents, here is my
evidence about getting a *dedicated* server for Counter-Strike: Source
running on a LAN and able to accept remote connections.

The following URL shows a screenshot detailing the ports that srcds.exe
listens on and connects to:

http://www.bart666.com/stuff/css-lan-server.png

The greyed out text are just other services and connections present on a
default Vista installation, so ignore those.  You'll note that the
server is bound to 192.168.1.3:27015 - this is the correct IP address
for the server to be listening on, as the computer itself is behind a
NAT router, therefore it does not know about an Internet connection
itself.

In the cmd.exe, the IP addresses on the left are ports and connections
that go FROM the computer.  On the right, these are ports and
connections on a REMOTE computer (i.e. stuff it is connected to).

In the white box inset, you'll see my port forwarding configuration.
Note that there are three ports forwarded on TCP AND UDP for 27005,
27015, 27020.  The server itself accepts Counter-Strike clients on
27015, but 27005 and 27020 are related to STEAM, and must also be
accessible to accept connections.

There is a setting to set the server to listen on LAN or Internet - if
this is set to LAN, the server itself does not seem to make the required
communication with STEAM for validation (I could be wrong, but I haven't
broken out the packet analysers for that ;).

Aside from what's shown, I have not done any other special setup.  The
command line I started the server with was:

\valve\srcds\srcds.exe -game cstrike

No "+ip" setting or anything.

I have tested this with a remote machine, and was able to successfully
connect to RCON (which listens on TCP 27015) and also to UDP 27015.
But, you can't actually play Counter-Strike via remote desktop, so I
didn't go that far (however, it is the same setup I have used in the
past with other people).

My ISP does not block any ports, have any silly proxy routing or
anything that'll just complicate matters - pure 8mbit ADSL for me.

If you are able to emulate this setup for your server and still
experience problems, it will be something conflicting on your machine or
indirectly by your ISP.  To check what your server is actually listening
on and what IP: Start->Run, cmd, netstat -an

Also, on the subject of being able to host a server, and play the game
on the SAME computer is really not recommended.  Because games are not
multi-threaded or support SMP (yes please Valve!) your server will be
fighting for processor time from your extremely CPU intensive
full-screen DirectX game and introduce huge amounts of lag or even lock
ups for remote players.

Listen servers - don't bother ;)

--

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http://www.bart666.com -- +44 781 219 5654




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RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-10 Thread Edward Luna
Nice post Bart.  One small comment if I may.  I don't believe it is necessary 
to forward any port other than the game port in order to create the required 
"listen" (initial connection) port for hl.   This single port forwarding for 
TCP/IP only, has been working in my WRT54G Linksys router for years for both 
hldm and srcds.

-Original Message-
From: Bart King [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 6:02 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


Hi there,

Since this thread is going off on some really wild tangents, here is my
evidence about getting a *dedicated* server for Counter-Strike: Source
running on a LAN and able to accept remote connections.

The following URL shows a screenshot detailing the ports that srcds.exe
listens on and connects to:

http://www.bart666.com/stuff/css-lan-server.png

The greyed out text are just other services and connections present on a
default Vista installation, so ignore those.  You'll note that the
server is bound to 192.168.1.3:27015 - this is the correct IP address
for the server to be listening on, as the computer itself is behind a
NAT router, therefore it does not know about an Internet connection
itself.

In the cmd.exe, the IP addresses on the left are ports and connections
that go FROM the computer.  On the right, these are ports and
connections on a REMOTE computer (i.e. stuff it is connected to).

In the white box inset, you'll see my port forwarding configuration.
Note that there are three ports forwarded on TCP AND UDP for 27005,
27015, 27020.  The server itself accepts Counter-Strike clients on
27015, but 27005 and 27020 are related to STEAM, and must also be
accessible to accept connections.

There is a setting to set the server to listen on LAN or Internet - if
this is set to LAN, the server itself does not seem to make the required
communication with STEAM for validation (I could be wrong, but I haven't
broken out the packet analysers for that ;).

Aside from what's shown, I have not done any other special setup.  The
command line I started the server with was:

\valve\srcds\srcds.exe -game cstrike

No "+ip" setting or anything.

I have tested this with a remote machine, and was able to successfully
connect to RCON (which listens on TCP 27015) and also to UDP 27015.
But, you can't actually play Counter-Strike via remote desktop, so I
didn't go that far (however, it is the same setup I have used in the
past with other people).

My ISP does not block any ports, have any silly proxy routing or
anything that'll just complicate matters - pure 8mbit ADSL for me.

If you are able to emulate this setup for your server and still
experience problems, it will be something conflicting on your machine or
indirectly by your ISP.  To check what your server is actually listening
on and what IP: Start->Run, cmd, netstat -an

Also, on the subject of being able to host a server, and play the game
on the SAME computer is really not recommended.  Because games are not
multi-threaded or support SMP (yes please Valve!) your server will be
fighting for processor time from your extremely CPU intensive
full-screen DirectX game and introduce huge amounts of lag or even lock
ups for remote players.

Listen servers - don't bother ;)

--

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RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-10 Thread Bart King
Hi there,

Since this thread is going off on some really wild tangents, here is my
evidence about getting a *dedicated* server for Counter-Strike: Source
running on a LAN and able to accept remote connections.

The following URL shows a screenshot detailing the ports that srcds.exe
listens on and connects to:

http://www.bart666.com/stuff/css-lan-server.png

The greyed out text are just other services and connections present on a
default Vista installation, so ignore those.  You'll note that the
server is bound to 192.168.1.3:27015 - this is the correct IP address
for the server to be listening on, as the computer itself is behind a
NAT router, therefore it does not know about an Internet connection
itself.

In the cmd.exe, the IP addresses on the left are ports and connections
that go FROM the computer.  On the right, these are ports and
connections on a REMOTE computer (i.e. stuff it is connected to).

In the white box inset, you'll see my port forwarding configuration.
Note that there are three ports forwarded on TCP AND UDP for 27005,
27015, 27020.  The server itself accepts Counter-Strike clients on
27015, but 27005 and 27020 are related to STEAM, and must also be
accessible to accept connections.

There is a setting to set the server to listen on LAN or Internet - if
this is set to LAN, the server itself does not seem to make the required
communication with STEAM for validation (I could be wrong, but I haven't
broken out the packet analysers for that ;).

Aside from what's shown, I have not done any other special setup.  The
command line I started the server with was:

\valve\srcds\srcds.exe -game cstrike

No "+ip" setting or anything.

I have tested this with a remote machine, and was able to successfully
connect to RCON (which listens on TCP 27015) and also to UDP 27015.
But, you can't actually play Counter-Strike via remote desktop, so I
didn't go that far (however, it is the same setup I have used in the
past with other people).

My ISP does not block any ports, have any silly proxy routing or
anything that'll just complicate matters - pure 8mbit ADSL for me.

If you are able to emulate this setup for your server and still
experience problems, it will be something conflicting on your machine or
indirectly by your ISP.  To check what your server is actually listening
on and what IP: Start->Run, cmd, netstat -an

Also, on the subject of being able to host a server, and play the game
on the SAME computer is really not recommended.  Because games are not
multi-threaded or support SMP (yes please Valve!) your server will be
fighting for processor time from your extremely CPU intensive
full-screen DirectX game and introduce huge amounts of lag or even lock
ups for remote players.

Listen servers - don't bother ;)

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Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-09 Thread ed miller
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hey, I get the same results.
when gerald says he went to steam support and did the port forward test..
it's not a port forward test.
it is a connectivity test. there are a couple of them. they are for people
trying to play the game. here are two:
steam://support/?issues=connection* and steam://support/?issues=*&test=ports
I have some nice pics. that look just like the one you posted gerald.
I can play on other servers. world wide.

also, have a "stand alone, dedicated server" +port 27015, console shows
192.168.17.31:27015 my router forwards tcp/udp 27015
used ipchicken to get my external IP, and put it at the top of server.cfgie. IP
205.200.173.203 on the nextline port 27015
the console still shows lan IP.

no one else in the world can join my server.
have used gametiger to search for my server. no joy.
I have an isp that filters out some of the steam stuff. check steam support
for a list of  incompatable isp providers.
they allow outgoing connections.
they do not allow incomming connections.
they do not allow outgoing connection request (invites)
when someone else is running a listening server and they send me an invite
via frends.
I get the invite message. but nothing happens when I click to join.
my server connects to the valve master servers! maybe my server is on the
master browser list. cannot see it there.
you could join my server anytime. it runs 24/7, if I could send you a
connection request.

have run a listening server. no one can join. only computers on the same
subnet of the lan. similar results with "client dedicated server"

can play on other servers. can connect to steam and get updates. can pass
the connection test. whatever.


On 10/9/06, gerald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi, I am trying to Host and Play and Join other servers which I am unable
> too.  I can play the game Offline but I wanna Host and join other servers.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Scott Tuttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 3:47 PM
> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
>
> >I suggest you open ports that need opening.
> >
> > This does not mean forward them.
> >
> > When you say run half life what do you mean?  I assume half life doesn't
> > need ports open.
> >
> > Do you get any messages when you as you say "run Halflife"?
> >
> > What exactly are you trying to do right here.  What specifically does
> and
> > does not work?  You just mean running these as clients or are you doing
> > something else?
> >
> >> -Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 11:35 PM
> >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >>
> >> OK I did delete ALL the STEAM ports I had setup I then tried
> >> to run Halflife
> >> No go. I then checked they othere suggestions I uninstalled
> >> and reinstalled
> >> Steam & Halflife it still does Not work. I then tried
> >> Counterstrike Success
> >> So I know my Setup is correct it is just something about
> >> Halflife?? What
> >> thos is puzzling me. I also Called up Dlink to see if it
> >> possibly a Router
> >> defect or something but they said it is on the Steam side of things??
> >>
> >> Could Steam of Banned my IP or somnething ??  it is strange
> >> that Counter
> >> Strike works but Half Life does Not.
> >> THNX for All the responces so far
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Scott Tuttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:14 PM
> >> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >>
> >>
> >> > Delete all your forwards also...
> >> >
> >> > The only forwards you need to setup for a dedicated server are:
> >> >
> >> > Port: 27015
> >> > Protocols: TCP and UDP
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> -Original Message-
> >> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:01 PM
> >> >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >> >> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >> >>
> >> >> My advice start from scratch (if it's worth anything)
> >> >>
> >> >> I find if I ha

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-09 Thread gerald

Hi, I am trying to Host and Play and Join other servers which I am unable
too.  I can play the game Offline but I wanna Host and join other servers.
- Original Message -
From: "Scott Tuttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 3:47 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



I suggest you open ports that need opening.

This does not mean forward them.

When you say run half life what do you mean?  I assume half life doesn't
need ports open.

Do you get any messages when you as you say "run Halflife"?

What exactly are you trying to do right here.  What specifically does and
does not work?  You just mean running these as clients or are you doing
something else?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 11:35 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

OK I did delete ALL the STEAM ports I had setup I then tried
to run Halflife
No go. I then checked they othere suggestions I uninstalled
and reinstalled
Steam & Halflife it still does Not work. I then tried
Counterstrike Success
So I know my Setup is correct it is just something about
Halflife?? What
thos is puzzling me. I also Called up Dlink to see if it
possibly a Router
defect or something but they said it is on the Steam side of things??

Could Steam of Banned my IP or somnething ??  it is strange
that Counter
Strike works but Half Life does Not.
THNX for All the responces so far
- Original Message -
From: "Scott Tuttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:14 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


> Delete all your forwards also...
>
> The only forwards you need to setup for a dedicated server are:
>
> Port: 27015
> Protocols: TCP and UDP
>
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:01 PM
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>>
>> My advice start from scratch (if it's worth anything)
>>
>> I find if I have had Issues with software including steam
>> I get up early (brain works better)
>> Start a text file and writing your every move!
>> Put the box on your local network
>> Download the latest server installer
>> Set up console script to create your new account Set up
console update
>> script Start a new server install with a new login pass
>> (don't use any of
>> your old server for anything)
>> Once you have a fresh copy "SAVE AS" as to give you a backup
>> :) and continue
>> saving through the build procedure so you have reference.
>> Up date the server again save after changes :) Build a basic
>> Start script ad
>> your basic configs Make sure your using the right executable
>> Run nothing but
>> a standard server (no addons) Start adding your console
>> commands 1 at a time
>> checking the server works each time Run the server on your
>> local network
>> Join it from a PC and check its fine then move across to the
>> public address
>> Then start adding your addons
>>
>> Good luck
>>
>> My msn is [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want configs I can send mine
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
>> Sent: Sunday, 8 October 2006 2:49 a.m.
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>>
>> Yes, I was able to Join before but now I canNot. I do not
>> know why I am
>> unablr=e to join it worked before??
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Edward Luna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 9:01 AM
>> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>>
>>
>> If you have a LAN and your server and game puter (even if it
>> is the same
>> physical computer) are on that LAN, then you can/should join
>> your server
>> from the LAN side.  Click the LAN tab, your server should
list there.
>> Others will need to join from the Internet side (through
your router).
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:19 AM
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>>
>>
>> I was unable to join my server now I know I have it setup
>> Properly in port
>> forward I just dont understand now why I c

RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-08 Thread Scott Tuttle
I suggest you open ports that need opening.

This does not mean forward them.

When you say run half life what do you mean?  I assume half life doesn't
need ports open.

Do you get any messages when you as you say "run Halflife"?

What exactly are you trying to do right here.  What specifically does and
does not work?  You just mean running these as clients or are you doing
something else?

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 11:35 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
> OK I did delete ALL the STEAM ports I had setup I then tried
> to run Halflife
> No go. I then checked they othere suggestions I uninstalled
> and reinstalled
> Steam & Halflife it still does Not work. I then tried
> Counterstrike Success
> So I know my Setup is correct it is just something about
> Halflife?? What
> thos is puzzling me. I also Called up Dlink to see if it
> possibly a Router
> defect or something but they said it is on the Steam side of things??
>
> Could Steam of Banned my IP or somnething ??  it is strange
> that Counter
> Strike works but Half Life does Not.
> THNX for All the responces so far
> - Original Message -
> From: "Scott Tuttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:14 PM
> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
>
> > Delete all your forwards also...
> >
> > The only forwards you need to setup for a dedicated server are:
> >
> > Port: 27015
> > Protocols: TCP and UDP
> >
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:01 PM
> >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >>
> >> My advice start from scratch (if it's worth anything)
> >>
> >> I find if I have had Issues with software including steam
> >> I get up early (brain works better)
> >> Start a text file and writing your every move!
> >> Put the box on your local network
> >> Download the latest server installer
> >> Set up console script to create your new account Set up
> console update
> >> script Start a new server install with a new login pass
> >> (don't use any of
> >> your old server for anything)
> >> Once you have a fresh copy "SAVE AS" as to give you a backup
> >> :) and continue
> >> saving through the build procedure so you have reference.
> >> Up date the server again save after changes :) Build a basic
> >> Start script ad
> >> your basic configs Make sure your using the right executable
> >> Run nothing but
> >> a standard server (no addons) Start adding your console
> >> commands 1 at a time
> >> checking the server works each time Run the server on your
> >> local network
> >> Join it from a PC and check its fine then move across to the
> >> public address
> >> Then start adding your addons
> >>
> >> Good luck
> >>
> >> My msn is [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want configs I can send mine
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
> >> Sent: Sunday, 8 October 2006 2:49 a.m.
> >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >>
> >> Yes, I was able to Join before but now I canNot. I do not
> >> know why I am
> >> unablr=e to join it worked before??
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Edward Luna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 9:01 AM
> >> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >>
> >>
> >> If you have a LAN and your server and game puter (even if it
> >> is the same
> >> physical computer) are on that LAN, then you can/should join
> >> your server
> >> from the LAN side.  Click the LAN tab, your server should
> list there.
> >> Others will need to join from the Internet side (through
> your router).
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:19 AM
> >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-07 Thread gerald

OK I did delete ALL the STEAM ports I had setup I then tried to run Halflife
No go. I then checked they othere suggestions I uninstalled and reinstalled
Steam & Halflife it still does Not work. I then tried Counterstrike Success
So I know my Setup is correct it is just something about Halflife?? What
thos is puzzling me. I also Called up Dlink to see if it possibly a Router
defect or something but they said it is on the Steam side of things??

Could Steam of Banned my IP or somnething ??  it is strange that Counter
Strike works but Half Life does Not.
THNX for All the responces so far
- Original Message -
From: "Scott Tuttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:14 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



Delete all your forwards also...

The only forwards you need to setup for a dedicated server are:

Port: 27015
Protocols: TCP and UDP




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:01 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

My advice start from scratch (if it's worth anything)

I find if I have had Issues with software including steam
I get up early (brain works better)
Start a text file and writing your every move!
Put the box on your local network
Download the latest server installer
Set up console script to create your new account Set up console update
script Start a new server install with a new login pass
(don't use any of
your old server for anything)
Once you have a fresh copy "SAVE AS" as to give you a backup
:) and continue
saving through the build procedure so you have reference.
Up date the server again save after changes :) Build a basic
Start script ad
your basic configs Make sure your using the right executable
Run nothing but
a standard server (no addons) Start adding your console
commands 1 at a time
checking the server works each time Run the server on your
local network
Join it from a PC and check its fine then move across to the
public address
Then start adding your addons

Good luck

My msn is [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want configs I can send mine

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Sunday, 8 October 2006 2:49 a.m.
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

Yes, I was able to Join before but now I canNot. I do not
know why I am
unablr=e to join it worked before??


- Original Message -
From: "Edward Luna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 9:01 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


If you have a LAN and your server and game puter (even if it
is the same
physical computer) are on that LAN, then you can/should join
your server
from the LAN side.  Click the LAN tab, your server should list there.
Others will need to join from the Internet side (through your router).

-Original Message-
From: gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:19 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


I was unable to join my server now I know I have it setup
Properly in port
forward I just dont understand now why I cant connect?? I
also tried a few
experiments in Doom I was able to see the game servers. In
Call of Duty I
was not able to see the server list??  I joined in LOMAC and
that worked
then I tried CoD2 thru Kali I was able to join a server??

So why was I able to join my server Before and now I am not able too??

THNX Gerald
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Jordan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:52 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


> No need for the whole group to see this. Please
continue to use the
> group for troubleshooting.
>
>
> I am sending a picture of my server console so you can see
it. If you look
> close the IP address listed is an internal IP address of
192.168.1.101 and
> my external IP is 75.117.144.3   I am also including my
command line to
> show
> you that the IP address isn't even listed.
>
> D:\HLServer\hlds.exe -console -game cstrike +port 27015 +hostname
> "Warcraft3
> Mod Fast XP" +map de_dust +maxplayers 9 -dll
> addons\metamod\dlls\metamod.dll
> -vacbeta  -autoupdate
>
> It appears from you reply to me that you were able to connect to the
> dedicated server, is this true? Did you drop on your own or
did the server
> kick you? If you were actually able to connect and stay in
then start your
> server, give the EXTERNAL IP and I can see if I (or a
friend) can join.
> This
> will prove that your port forwarding is right.
>
> If the dedicated server works then I would find a way to
blow the steam
> menu
> server away and reload/reinstal

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-07 Thread Ook

Are you connected wirelessly to the WRT54G? It work fine if you are wired,
just not if you are wireless.

- Original Message -
From: "Edward Luna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:16 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



There must be something specific to your config of your WRT54G that is
preventing connection via the LAN.  I also have a WRT54G router and I
connect to my game servers (two of them) without any problems.  Your
router really shouldn't be preventing you from contacting other devices on
your own network unless you specifically restricted access via
configuration.

-Original Message-
From: Ook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 5:59 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


Some routers and/or router configs won't let you join the server from
another workstation. Using the trusty Linksys WRT54G via wireless, for
example, can do this. My main router is a WRT54G. I have my daughter's 2
computers upstairs connecting via wireless. If they connect to the
LInksys,
they can't join my server. So, I have a Netgear router plugged into the
LInksys via cat5. DHCP server in netgear is disabled. IP of netgear is
hard
set. Now, they connect via wireless to the Netgear, use the DHCP server of
the LInksys, and they can connect to my server just fine. Something in the
Linksys is not right, not sure what. Works through the Netgear, doesn't
work
through the Linksys.


- Original Message -
From: "Edward Luna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 2:35 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



There is nothing more basic to a hl server than to be able to join a game
from the same LAN the server computer is running on.  If you can't do
that
then you've got some basic network function screwed up.  Start out making
certain tcp/ip is functioning properly on both puters.  Make sure the
network, subnet mask, and ip addresses of both puters is correct.  Lets
assume a few things for demonstration purposes... the IP addy of the
server is 192.168.1.100 and the IP addy of the client is 192.168.1.200.
Bring up a command screen on the server and ping the client computer by
typing the following command (without the quotes)  "ping 192.168.1.200".
You should receive 4 replies.  Next ping the server from the client using
the following command ping 192.168.1.100... again, you should receive 4
replies.  If you can ping both machines from each other... and the server
machine is running hl... and there is a map running on the server... and
the server is listening on the same port the client is trying to connect
with... and the client is running the same version of hl... and the
client
is trying to connect on the same port the server is listening on... and
you have a valid Steam account...then you should be able to join the
game.

Are all these things true for your current problem?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:01 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


My advice start from scratch (if it's worth anything)

I find if I have had Issues with software including steam
I get up early (brain works better)
Start a text file and writing your every move!
Put the box on your local network
Download the latest server installer
Set up console script to create your new account Set up console update
script Start a new server install with a new login pass (don’t use any of
your old server for anything)
Once you have a fresh copy "SAVE AS" as to give you a backup :) and
continue
saving through the build procedure so you have reference.
Up date the server again save after changes :) Build a basic Start script
ad
your basic configs Make sure your using the right executable Run nothing
but
a standard server (no addons) Start adding your console commands 1 at a
time
checking the server works each time Run the server on your local network
Join it from a PC and check its fine then move across to the public
address
Then start adding your addons

Good luck

My msn is [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want configs I can send mine

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Sunday, 8 October 2006 2:49 a.m.
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

Yes, I was able to Join before but now I canNot. I do not know why I am
unablr=e to join it worked before??


- Original Message -
From: "Edward Luna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 9:01 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


If you have a LAN and your server and game puter (even if it is the same
physical computer) are on that LAN, then you can/should join your server
from the 

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-07 Thread Ook

Firewall is off. It's something specific to the WRT54G wireless.


- Original Message -
From: "Scott Tuttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:55 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



My guess is he has one of the firewall filtering routers and isnt allowing
all traffic on his lan segment.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Luna
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 6:16 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

There must be something specific to your config of your
WRT54G that is preventing connection via the LAN.  I also
have a WRT54G router and I connect to my game servers (two of
them) without any problems.  Your router really shouldn't be
preventing you from contacting other devices on your own
network unless you specifically restricted access via configuration.

-Original Message-
From: Ook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 5:59 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


Some routers and/or router configs won't let you join the server from
another workstation. Using the trusty Linksys WRT54G via wireless, for
example, can do this. My main router is a WRT54G. I have my
daughter's 2
computers upstairs connecting via wireless. If they connect
to the LInksys,
they can't join my server. So, I have a Netgear router
plugged into the
LInksys via cat5. DHCP server in netgear is disabled. IP of
netgear is hard
set. Now, they connect via wireless to the Netgear, use the
DHCP server of
the LInksys, and they can connect to my server just fine.
Something in the
Linksys is not right, not sure what. Works through the
Netgear, doesn't work
through the Linksys.


- Original Message -
From: "Edward Luna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 2:35 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


> There is nothing more basic to a hl server than to be able
to join a game
> from the same LAN the server computer is running on.  If
you can't do that
> then you've got some basic network function screwed up.
Start out making
> certain tcp/ip is functioning properly on both puters.
Make sure the
> network, subnet mask, and ip addresses of both puters is
correct.  Lets
> assume a few things for demonstration purposes... the IP addy of the
> server is 192.168.1.100 and the IP addy of the client is
192.168.1.200.
> Bring up a command screen on the server and ping the client
computer by
> typing the following command (without the quotes)  "ping
192.168.1.200".
> You should receive 4 replies.  Next ping the server from
the client using
> the following command ping 192.168.1.100... again, you
should receive 4
> replies.  If you can ping both machines from each other...
and the server
> machine is running hl... and there is a map running on the
server... and
> the server is listening on the same port the client is
trying to connect
> with... and the client is running the same version of hl...
and the client
> is trying to connect on the same port the server is
listening on... and
> you have a valid Steam account...then you should be able to
join the game.
>
> Are all these things true for your current problem?
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:01 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
>
> My advice start from scratch (if it's worth anything)
>
> I find if I have had Issues with software including steam
> I get up early (brain works better)
> Start a text file and writing your every move!
> Put the box on your local network
> Download the latest server installer
> Set up console script to create your new account Set up
console update
> script Start a new server install with a new login pass
(don't use any of
> your old server for anything)
> Once you have a fresh copy "SAVE AS" as to give you a backup :) and
> continue
> saving through the build procedure so you have reference.
> Up date the server again save after changes :) Build a
basic Start script
> ad
> your basic configs Make sure your using the right
executable Run nothing
> but
> a standard server (no addons) Start adding your console
commands 1 at a
> time
> checking the server works each time Run the server on your
local network
> Join it from a PC and check its fine then move across to the public
> address
> Then start adding your addons
>
> Good luck
>
> My msn is [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want configs I can send mine
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On B

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-07 Thread Joshua Handelsman-Woolf (DogGunn)
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Can't you get custom firmware for your router?

On 08/10/06, Scott Tuttle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> My guess is he has one of the firewall filtering routers and isnt allowing
> all traffic on his lan segment.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Luna
> > Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 6:16 PM
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >
> > There must be something specific to your config of your
> > WRT54G that is preventing connection via the LAN.  I also
> > have a WRT54G router and I connect to my game servers (two of
> > them) without any problems.  Your router really shouldn't be
> > preventing you from contacting other devices on your own
> > network unless you specifically restricted access via configuration.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 5:59 PM
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >
> >
> > Some routers and/or router configs won't let you join the server from
> > another workstation. Using the trusty Linksys WRT54G via wireless, for
> > example, can do this. My main router is a WRT54G. I have my
> > daughter's 2
> > computers upstairs connecting via wireless. If they connect
> > to the LInksys,
> > they can't join my server. So, I have a Netgear router
> > plugged into the
> > LInksys via cat5. DHCP server in netgear is disabled. IP of
> > netgear is hard
> > set. Now, they connect via wireless to the Netgear, use the
> > DHCP server of
> > the LInksys, and they can connect to my server just fine.
> > Something in the
> > Linksys is not right, not sure what. Works through the
> > Netgear, doesn't work
> > through the Linksys.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Edward Luna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 2:35 PM
> > Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >
> >
> > > There is nothing more basic to a hl server than to be able
> > to join a game
> > > from the same LAN the server computer is running on.  If
> > you can't do that
> > > then you've got some basic network function screwed up.
> > Start out making
> > > certain tcp/ip is functioning properly on both puters.
> > Make sure the
> > > network, subnet mask, and ip addresses of both puters is
> > correct.  Lets
> > > assume a few things for demonstration purposes... the IP addy of the
> > > server is 192.168.1.100 and the IP addy of the client is
> > 192.168.1.200.
> > > Bring up a command screen on the server and ping the client
> > computer by
> > > typing the following command (without the quotes)  "ping
> > 192.168.1.200".
> > > You should receive 4 replies.  Next ping the server from
> > the client using
> > > the following command ping 192.168.1.100... again, you
> > should receive 4
> > > replies.  If you can ping both machines from each other...
> > and the server
> > > machine is running hl... and there is a map running on the
> > server... and
> > > the server is listening on the same port the client is
> > trying to connect
> > > with... and the client is running the same version of hl...
> > and the client
> > > is trying to connect on the same port the server is
> > listening on... and
> > > you have a valid Steam account...then you should be able to
> > join the game.
> > >
> > > Are all these things true for your current problem?
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:01 PM
> > > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > > Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> > >
> > >
> > > My advice start from scratch (if it's worth anything)
> > >
> > > I find if I have had Issues with software including steam
> > > I get up early (brain works better)
> > > Start a text file and writing your every move!
> > > Put the box on your local network
> > > Download the latest server installer
> > > Set up console script to create your new account Set up
> > console update
> > > script

RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-07 Thread Scott Tuttle
My guess is he has one of the firewall filtering routers and isnt allowing
all traffic on his lan segment.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Edward Luna
> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 6:16 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
> There must be something specific to your config of your
> WRT54G that is preventing connection via the LAN.  I also
> have a WRT54G router and I connect to my game servers (two of
> them) without any problems.  Your router really shouldn't be
> preventing you from contacting other devices on your own
> network unless you specifically restricted access via configuration.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 5:59 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
>
> Some routers and/or router configs won't let you join the server from
> another workstation. Using the trusty Linksys WRT54G via wireless, for
> example, can do this. My main router is a WRT54G. I have my
> daughter's 2
> computers upstairs connecting via wireless. If they connect
> to the LInksys,
> they can't join my server. So, I have a Netgear router
> plugged into the
> LInksys via cat5. DHCP server in netgear is disabled. IP of
> netgear is hard
> set. Now, they connect via wireless to the Netgear, use the
> DHCP server of
> the LInksys, and they can connect to my server just fine.
> Something in the
> Linksys is not right, not sure what. Works through the
> Netgear, doesn't work
> through the Linksys.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Edward Luna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 2:35 PM
> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
>
> > There is nothing more basic to a hl server than to be able
> to join a game
> > from the same LAN the server computer is running on.  If
> you can't do that
> > then you've got some basic network function screwed up.
> Start out making
> > certain tcp/ip is functioning properly on both puters.
> Make sure the
> > network, subnet mask, and ip addresses of both puters is
> correct.  Lets
> > assume a few things for demonstration purposes... the IP addy of the
> > server is 192.168.1.100 and the IP addy of the client is
> 192.168.1.200.
> > Bring up a command screen on the server and ping the client
> computer by
> > typing the following command (without the quotes)  "ping
> 192.168.1.200".
> > You should receive 4 replies.  Next ping the server from
> the client using
> > the following command ping 192.168.1.100... again, you
> should receive 4
> > replies.  If you can ping both machines from each other...
> and the server
> > machine is running hl... and there is a map running on the
> server... and
> > the server is listening on the same port the client is
> trying to connect
> > with... and the client is running the same version of hl...
> and the client
> > is trying to connect on the same port the server is
> listening on... and
> > you have a valid Steam account...then you should be able to
> join the game.
> >
> > Are all these things true for your current problem?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:01 PM
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >
> >
> > My advice start from scratch (if it's worth anything)
> >
> > I find if I have had Issues with software including steam
> > I get up early (brain works better)
> > Start a text file and writing your every move!
> > Put the box on your local network
> > Download the latest server installer
> > Set up console script to create your new account Set up
> console update
> > script Start a new server install with a new login pass
> (don't use any of
> > your old server for anything)
> > Once you have a fresh copy "SAVE AS" as to give you a backup :) and
> > continue
> > saving through the build procedure so you have reference.
> > Up date the server again save after changes :) Build a
> basic Start script
> > ad
> > your basic configs Make sure your using the right
> executable Run nothing
> > but
> > a standard server (no addons) Start adding your console
> commands 1 at a
> > time
> > checking the server works each time Run the server on your
> local network
&g

RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-07 Thread Edward Luna
There must be something specific to your config of your WRT54G that is 
preventing connection via the LAN.  I also have a WRT54G router and I connect 
to my game servers (two of them) without any problems.  Your router really 
shouldn't be preventing you from contacting other devices on your own network 
unless you specifically restricted access via configuration.

-Original Message-
From: Ook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 5:59 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


Some routers and/or router configs won't let you join the server from
another workstation. Using the trusty Linksys WRT54G via wireless, for
example, can do this. My main router is a WRT54G. I have my daughter's 2
computers upstairs connecting via wireless. If they connect to the LInksys,
they can't join my server. So, I have a Netgear router plugged into the
LInksys via cat5. DHCP server in netgear is disabled. IP of netgear is hard
set. Now, they connect via wireless to the Netgear, use the DHCP server of
the LInksys, and they can connect to my server just fine. Something in the
Linksys is not right, not sure what. Works through the Netgear, doesn't work
through the Linksys.


- Original Message -
From: "Edward Luna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 2:35 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


> There is nothing more basic to a hl server than to be able to join a game
> from the same LAN the server computer is running on.  If you can't do that
> then you've got some basic network function screwed up.  Start out making
> certain tcp/ip is functioning properly on both puters.  Make sure the
> network, subnet mask, and ip addresses of both puters is correct.  Lets
> assume a few things for demonstration purposes... the IP addy of the
> server is 192.168.1.100 and the IP addy of the client is 192.168.1.200.
> Bring up a command screen on the server and ping the client computer by
> typing the following command (without the quotes)  "ping 192.168.1.200".
> You should receive 4 replies.  Next ping the server from the client using
> the following command ping 192.168.1.100... again, you should receive 4
> replies.  If you can ping both machines from each other... and the server
> machine is running hl... and there is a map running on the server... and
> the server is listening on the same port the client is trying to connect
> with... and the client is running the same version of hl... and the client
> is trying to connect on the same port the server is listening on... and
> you have a valid Steam account...then you should be able to join the game.
>
> Are all these things true for your current problem?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:01 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
>
> My advice start from scratch (if it's worth anything)
>
> I find if I have had Issues with software including steam
> I get up early (brain works better)
> Start a text file and writing your every move!
> Put the box on your local network
> Download the latest server installer
> Set up console script to create your new account Set up console update
> script Start a new server install with a new login pass (don’t use any of
> your old server for anything)
> Once you have a fresh copy "SAVE AS" as to give you a backup :) and
> continue
> saving through the build procedure so you have reference.
> Up date the server again save after changes :) Build a basic Start script
> ad
> your basic configs Make sure your using the right executable Run nothing
> but
> a standard server (no addons) Start adding your console commands 1 at a
> time
> checking the server works each time Run the server on your local network
> Join it from a PC and check its fine then move across to the public
> address
> Then start adding your addons
>
> Good luck
>
> My msn is [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want configs I can send mine
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
> Sent: Sunday, 8 October 2006 2:49 a.m.
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
> Yes, I was able to Join before but now I canNot. I do not know why I am
> unablr=e to join it worked before??
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Edward Luna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 9:01 AM
> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
>
> If you have a LAN and your server and game puter (even if it is the same
> physical c

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-07 Thread Ook

Some routers and/or router configs won't let you join the server from
another workstation. Using the trusty Linksys WRT54G via wireless, for
example, can do this. My main router is a WRT54G. I have my daughter's 2
computers upstairs connecting via wireless. If they connect to the LInksys,
they can't join my server. So, I have a Netgear router plugged into the
LInksys via cat5. DHCP server in netgear is disabled. IP of netgear is hard
set. Now, they connect via wireless to the Netgear, use the DHCP server of
the LInksys, and they can connect to my server just fine. Something in the
Linksys is not right, not sure what. Works through the Netgear, doesn't work
through the Linksys.


- Original Message -
From: "Edward Luna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 2:35 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



There is nothing more basic to a hl server than to be able to join a game
from the same LAN the server computer is running on.  If you can't do that
then you've got some basic network function screwed up.  Start out making
certain tcp/ip is functioning properly on both puters.  Make sure the
network, subnet mask, and ip addresses of both puters is correct.  Lets
assume a few things for demonstration purposes... the IP addy of the
server is 192.168.1.100 and the IP addy of the client is 192.168.1.200.
Bring up a command screen on the server and ping the client computer by
typing the following command (without the quotes)  "ping 192.168.1.200".
You should receive 4 replies.  Next ping the server from the client using
the following command ping 192.168.1.100... again, you should receive 4
replies.  If you can ping both machines from each other... and the server
machine is running hl... and there is a map running on the server... and
the server is listening on the same port the client is trying to connect
with... and the client is running the same version of hl... and the client
is trying to connect on the same port the server is listening on... and
you have a valid Steam account...then you should be able to join the game.

Are all these things true for your current problem?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:01 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


My advice start from scratch (if it's worth anything)

I find if I have had Issues with software including steam
I get up early (brain works better)
Start a text file and writing your every move!
Put the box on your local network
Download the latest server installer
Set up console script to create your new account Set up console update
script Start a new server install with a new login pass (don’t use any of
your old server for anything)
Once you have a fresh copy "SAVE AS" as to give you a backup :) and
continue
saving through the build procedure so you have reference.
Up date the server again save after changes :) Build a basic Start script
ad
your basic configs Make sure your using the right executable Run nothing
but
a standard server (no addons) Start adding your console commands 1 at a
time
checking the server works each time Run the server on your local network
Join it from a PC and check its fine then move across to the public
address
Then start adding your addons

Good luck

My msn is [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want configs I can send mine

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Sunday, 8 October 2006 2:49 a.m.
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

Yes, I was able to Join before but now I canNot. I do not know why I am
unablr=e to join it worked before??


- Original Message -
From: "Edward Luna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 9:01 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


If you have a LAN and your server and game puter (even if it is the same
physical computer) are on that LAN, then you can/should join your server
from the LAN side.  Click the LAN tab, your server should list there.
Others will need to join from the Internet side (through your router).

-Original Message-
From: gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:19 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


I was unable to join my server now I know I have it setup Properly in port
forward I just dont understand now why I cant connect?? I also tried a few
experiments in Doom I was able to see the game servers. In Call of Duty I
was not able to see the server list??  I joined in LOMAC and that worked
then I tried CoD2 thru Kali I was able to join a server??

So why was I able to join my server Before and now I am not able too??

THNX Gerald
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Jordan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&

RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-07 Thread Edward Luna
There is nothing more basic to a hl server than to be able to join a game from 
the same LAN the server computer is running on.  If you can't do that then 
you've got some basic network function screwed up.  Start out making certain 
tcp/ip is functioning properly on both puters.  Make sure the network, subnet 
mask, and ip addresses of both puters is correct.  Lets assume a few things for 
demonstration purposes... the IP addy of the server is 192.168.1.100 and the IP 
addy of the client is 192.168.1.200. Bring up a command screen on the server 
and ping the client computer by typing the following command (without the 
quotes)  "ping 192.168.1.200".  You should receive 4 replies.  Next ping the 
server from the client using the following command ping 192.168.1.100... again, 
you should receive 4 replies.  If you can ping both machines from each other... 
and the server machine is running hl... and there is a map running on the 
server... and the server is listening on the same port the client is trying to 
connect with... and the client is running the same version of hl... and the 
client is trying to connect on the same port the server is listening on... and 
you have a valid Steam account...then you should be able to join the game.

Are all these things true for your current problem?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:01 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


My advice start from scratch (if it's worth anything)

I find if I have had Issues with software including steam
I get up early (brain works better)
Start a text file and writing your every move!
Put the box on your local network
Download the latest server installer
Set up console script to create your new account Set up console update
script Start a new server install with a new login pass (don’t use any of
your old server for anything)
Once you have a fresh copy "SAVE AS" as to give you a backup :) and continue
saving through the build procedure so you have reference.
Up date the server again save after changes :) Build a basic Start script ad
your basic configs Make sure your using the right executable Run nothing but
a standard server (no addons) Start adding your console commands 1 at a time
checking the server works each time Run the server on your local network
Join it from a PC and check its fine then move across to the public address
Then start adding your addons

Good luck

My msn is [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want configs I can send mine

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Sunday, 8 October 2006 2:49 a.m.
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

Yes, I was able to Join before but now I canNot. I do not know why I am
unablr=e to join it worked before??


- Original Message -
From: "Edward Luna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 9:01 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


If you have a LAN and your server and game puter (even if it is the same
physical computer) are on that LAN, then you can/should join your server
from the LAN side.  Click the LAN tab, your server should list there.
Others will need to join from the Internet side (through your router).

-Original Message-
From: gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:19 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


I was unable to join my server now I know I have it setup Properly in port
forward I just dont understand now why I cant connect?? I also tried a few
experiments in Doom I was able to see the game servers. In Call of Duty I
was not able to see the server list??  I joined in LOMAC and that worked
then I tried CoD2 thru Kali I was able to join a server??

So why was I able to join my server Before and now I am not able too??

THNX Gerald
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Jordan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:52 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


> No need for the whole group to see this. Please continue to use the
> group for troubleshooting.
>
>
> I am sending a picture of my server console so you can see it. If you look
> close the IP address listed is an internal IP address of 192.168.1.101 and
> my external IP is 75.117.144.3   I am also including my command line to
> show
> you that the IP address isn't even listed.
>
> D:\HLServer\hlds.exe -console -game cstrike +port 27015 +hostname
> "Warcraft3
> Mod Fast XP" +map de_dust +maxplayers 9 -dll
> addons\metamod\dlls\metamod.dll
> -vacbeta  -autoupdate
>
> It appears from you reply to me that you were able to connect to the
> dedicated server, is this true? Did you drop on your own

RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-07 Thread Scott Tuttle
Delete all your forwards also...

The only forwards you need to setup for a dedicated server are:

Port: 27015
Protocols: TCP and UDP



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 3:01 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
> My advice start from scratch (if it's worth anything)
>
> I find if I have had Issues with software including steam
> I get up early (brain works better)
> Start a text file and writing your every move!
> Put the box on your local network
> Download the latest server installer
> Set up console script to create your new account Set up console update
> script Start a new server install with a new login pass
> (don't use any of
> your old server for anything)
> Once you have a fresh copy "SAVE AS" as to give you a backup
> :) and continue
> saving through the build procedure so you have reference.
> Up date the server again save after changes :) Build a basic
> Start script ad
> your basic configs Make sure your using the right executable
> Run nothing but
> a standard server (no addons) Start adding your console
> commands 1 at a time
> checking the server works each time Run the server on your
> local network
> Join it from a PC and check its fine then move across to the
> public address
> Then start adding your addons
>
> Good luck
>
> My msn is [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want configs I can send mine
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
> Sent: Sunday, 8 October 2006 2:49 a.m.
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
> Yes, I was able to Join before but now I canNot. I do not
> know why I am
> unablr=e to join it worked before??
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Edward Luna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 9:01 AM
> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
>
> If you have a LAN and your server and game puter (even if it
> is the same
> physical computer) are on that LAN, then you can/should join
> your server
> from the LAN side.  Click the LAN tab, your server should list there.
> Others will need to join from the Internet side (through your router).
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:19 AM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
>
> I was unable to join my server now I know I have it setup
> Properly in port
> forward I just dont understand now why I cant connect?? I
> also tried a few
> experiments in Doom I was able to see the game servers. In
> Call of Duty I
> was not able to see the server list??  I joined in LOMAC and
> that worked
> then I tried CoD2 thru Kali I was able to join a server??
>
> So why was I able to join my server Before and now I am not able too??
>
> THNX Gerald
> - Original Message -
> From: "Michael Jordan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:52 PM
> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
>
> > No need for the whole group to see this. Please
> continue to use the
> > group for troubleshooting.
> >
> >
> > I am sending a picture of my server console so you can see
> it. If you look
> > close the IP address listed is an internal IP address of
> 192.168.1.101 and
> > my external IP is 75.117.144.3   I am also including my
> command line to
> > show
> > you that the IP address isn't even listed.
> >
> > D:\HLServer\hlds.exe -console -game cstrike +port 27015 +hostname
> > "Warcraft3
> > Mod Fast XP" +map de_dust +maxplayers 9 -dll
> > addons\metamod\dlls\metamod.dll
> > -vacbeta  -autoupdate
> >
> > It appears from you reply to me that you were able to connect to the
> > dedicated server, is this true? Did you drop on your own or
> did the server
> > kick you? If you were actually able to connect and stay in
> then start your
> > server, give the EXTERNAL IP and I can see if I (or a
> friend) can join.
> > This
> > will prove that your port forwarding is right.
> >
> > If the dedicated server works then I would find a way to
> blow the steam
> > menu
> > server away and reload/reinstall it.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
> > Sent: Friday, October

RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-07 Thread smeg
My advice start from scratch (if it's worth anything)

I find if I have had Issues with software including steam
I get up early (brain works better)
Start a text file and writing your every move!
Put the box on your local network
Download the latest server installer
Set up console script to create your new account Set up console update
script Start a new server install with a new login pass (don’t use any of
your old server for anything)
Once you have a fresh copy "SAVE AS" as to give you a backup :) and continue
saving through the build procedure so you have reference.
Up date the server again save after changes :) Build a basic Start script ad
your basic configs Make sure your using the right executable Run nothing but
a standard server (no addons) Start adding your console commands 1 at a time
checking the server works each time Run the server on your local network
Join it from a PC and check its fine then move across to the public address
Then start adding your addons

Good luck

My msn is [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you want configs I can send mine

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Sunday, 8 October 2006 2:49 a.m.
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

Yes, I was able to Join before but now I canNot. I do not know why I am
unablr=e to join it worked before??


- Original Message -
From: "Edward Luna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 9:01 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


If you have a LAN and your server and game puter (even if it is the same
physical computer) are on that LAN, then you can/should join your server
from the LAN side.  Click the LAN tab, your server should list there.
Others will need to join from the Internet side (through your router).

-Original Message-
From: gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:19 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


I was unable to join my server now I know I have it setup Properly in port
forward I just dont understand now why I cant connect?? I also tried a few
experiments in Doom I was able to see the game servers. In Call of Duty I
was not able to see the server list??  I joined in LOMAC and that worked
then I tried CoD2 thru Kali I was able to join a server??

So why was I able to join my server Before and now I am not able too??

THNX Gerald
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Jordan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:52 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


> No need for the whole group to see this. Please continue to use the
> group for troubleshooting.
>
>
> I am sending a picture of my server console so you can see it. If you look
> close the IP address listed is an internal IP address of 192.168.1.101 and
> my external IP is 75.117.144.3   I am also including my command line to
> show
> you that the IP address isn't even listed.
>
> D:\HLServer\hlds.exe -console -game cstrike +port 27015 +hostname
> "Warcraft3
> Mod Fast XP" +map de_dust +maxplayers 9 -dll
> addons\metamod\dlls\metamod.dll
> -vacbeta  -autoupdate
>
> It appears from you reply to me that you were able to connect to the
> dedicated server, is this true? Did you drop on your own or did the server
> kick you? If you were actually able to connect and stay in then start your
> server, give the EXTERNAL IP and I can see if I (or a friend) can join.
> This
> will prove that your port forwarding is right.
>
> If the dedicated server works then I would find a way to blow the steam
> menu
> server away and reload/reinstall it.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:10 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
> well I just opened what Steam Support said to open?? if I dont need all
> them
> why do they say to open them all??
> I mostly fly Flight Simulators and I do not give out my internal IP for
> those I have to give out my external IP same goes for TS2, and Roger wilco
> Voice comms. I also was going by what STEAM support said about the IP it
> said that I need to use my External IP not my internal IP so I dont get it
> your telling me too ust the internal?? that dont make any sence as anybody
> joining my Game would need my External then any info to that ip will get
> passed to my internal IP via the router W/ Port Forward so I dont know
> what
> you mean by my knowledge level ??
> - Original Message -
> From: "DLinkOZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:26 PM
> Subject: RE: Re

RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-07 Thread Scott Tuttle
I tested this just now and using the default ports of everything I had no
problems connecting to the servers.

Maybe it has something to do with all those ports you forwarded and you did
not need to do so.

> These errors are normal for running a dedicated sv_lan 0
> server and trying
> to join it from the same machine.  You need to change the
> client port to
> something other than 27015 or you need to change the
> dedicated server port
> to something other than 27015.  It will not use your external
> ip.  I believe
> doing this will allow you to connect.  I can't test it right
> now as my steam
> is updating but I do believe this is what you need.
>
> > @Michael
> > I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error:
> >
> > ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk.
> > Dropped Nephilim from server
> > Reason:  Client sent 'drop'
> >
> >
> > will that help figure out my problem?? Also I noticed it is using my
> > Internal IP shouldnt it use my External??


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RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-07 Thread Scott Tuttle
You was able to join before because it was likely setup as a lan server and
now it is an internet server.  The problem is because of using the same port
27015 for the client as you use for the server.

> I was unable to join my server now I know I have it setup
> Properly in port
> forward I just dont understand now why I cant connect?? I
> also tried a few
> experiments in Doom I was able to see the game servers. In
> Call of Duty I
> was not able to see the server list??  I joined in LOMAC and
> that worked
> then I tried CoD2 thru Kali I was able to join a server??

I believe you misread their website.  They say the ports need to be open but
they do not say to FORWARD them.

> well I just opened what Steam Support said to open?? if I
> dont need all them

No where does steams website suggest forwarding all those ports.  Some ports
are required to be OPEN to play steam but they do not need to be forwarded.
I suggest you re-read the links I provided in the other post.

> I Port Forward the Proper ports that was shown in the Steam
> Support site.
> Ill post the screenshot of the Port Forward test page on
> another website
> here is the link:
>
> http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=64
> &t=001290
>
> Port Forwarding is NOT the problem Please Stop Asking for
> this info THNX!!

These errors are normal for running a dedicated sv_lan 0 server and trying
to join it from the same machine.  You need to change the client port to
something other than 27015 or you need to change the dedicated server port
to something other than 27015.  It will not use your external ip.  I believe
doing this will allow you to connect.  I can't test it right now as my steam
is updating but I do believe this is what you need.

> @Michael
> I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error:
>
> ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk.
> Dropped Nephilim from server
> Reason:  Client sent 'drop'
>
>
> will that help figure out my problem?? Also I noticed it is using my
> Internal IP shouldnt it use my External??


No... I am not wondering if you have a normal ip.  I see later on you posted
your ip address.  But I am leaving this here for completeness.  I could see
your server fine with hlsw and also can join your server fine.  You will see
the answer to why you can't join the server when they are located on the
same machine if one is a dedicated server.  From hlsw it does appear to be a
dedicated server.

What is the name of your server and what is the ip address to join your
server externally.

I don't understand how hard it is to understand that.  I am trying to
determine if anyone can find your server or join it.  If we can then the
only problem is YOU joining the server from the lan side.

> @Scott
> I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I
> realise they need
> nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem
> Hosting other
> games just Halflife on Steam??  and I dont wanna do a
> Dedicated server as I
> wanna play as well.
> Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support
> Pages. Somewhat
> usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports
> are open or
> Not.
>
> that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or
> Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have
> exhausted all
> the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was
> sent here by the
> support site to get an answer to my question that they
> couldn't answer why I
> cant Host??


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Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-07 Thread gerald

Yes, I was able to Join before but now I canNot. I do not know why I am
unablr=e to join it worked before??


- Original Message -
From: "Edward Luna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 9:01 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


If you have a LAN and your server and game puter (even if it is the same
physical computer) are on that LAN, then you can/should join your server
from the LAN side.  Click the LAN tab, your server should list there.
Others will need to join from the Internet side (through your router).

-Original Message-
From: gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:19 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


I was unable to join my server now I know I have it setup Properly in port
forward I just dont understand now why I cant connect?? I also tried a few
experiments in Doom I was able to see the game servers. In Call of Duty I
was not able to see the server list??  I joined in LOMAC and that worked
then I tried CoD2 thru Kali I was able to join a server??

So why was I able to join my server Before and now I am not able too??

THNX Gerald
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Jordan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:52 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



No need for the whole group to see this. Please continue to use the
group for troubleshooting.


I am sending a picture of my server console so you can see it. If you look
close the IP address listed is an internal IP address of 192.168.1.101 and
my external IP is 75.117.144.3   I am also including my command line to
show
you that the IP address isn't even listed.

D:\HLServer\hlds.exe -console -game cstrike +port 27015 +hostname
"Warcraft3
Mod Fast XP" +map de_dust +maxplayers 9 -dll
addons\metamod\dlls\metamod.dll
-vacbeta  -autoupdate

It appears from you reply to me that you were able to connect to the
dedicated server, is this true? Did you drop on your own or did the server
kick you? If you were actually able to connect and stay in then start your
server, give the EXTERNAL IP and I can see if I (or a friend) can join.
This
will prove that your port forwarding is right.

If the dedicated server works then I would find a way to blow the steam
menu
server away and reload/reinstall it.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:10 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

well I just opened what Steam Support said to open?? if I dont need all
them
why do they say to open them all??
I mostly fly Flight Simulators and I do not give out my internal IP for
those I have to give out my external IP same goes for TS2, and Roger wilco
Voice comms. I also was going by what STEAM support said about the IP it
said that I need to use my External IP not my internal IP so I dont get it
your telling me too ust the internal?? that dont make any sence as anybody
joining my Game would need my External then any info to that ip will get
passed to my internal IP via the router W/ Port Forward so I dont know
what
you mean by my knowledge level ??
- Original Message -
From: "DLinkOZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:26 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



Wow, that's a lot of ports you have forwarded... All you need to
forward is UDP for the port the server runs on (as long as you allow
outbound without rules).  As for requesting that info, it's basic
troubleshooting for just about anything sitting behind a firewall or
NAT device.  The point that you wanted to bind a machine behind your
router to a public IP sort of framed a picture of knowledge level (not
trying to be insulting, just being honest), so actually having the
details was needed before anyone here could write that off as not a
possible cause.




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:00 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

@DlinkOZ

I Port Forward the Proper ports that was shown in the Steam Support site.
Ill post the screenshot of the Port Forward test page on another
website here is the link:

http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=64&t=00129
0

Port Forwarding is NOT the problem Please Stop Asking for this info
THNX!!

- Original Message -
From: "DLinkOZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:47 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



I'll ask again, can you tell us exactly what port forwarding you've
done?
Such as:

"I have forwarded UDP 27015 to my server"

That would give us something to go on.



-Original Message-

RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-07 Thread Edward Luna
If you have a LAN and your server and game puter (even if it is the same 
physical computer) are on that LAN, then you can/should join your server from 
the LAN side.  Click the LAN tab, your server should list there.  Others will 
need to join from the Internet side (through your router).

-Original Message-
From: gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:19 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


I was unable to join my server now I know I have it setup Properly in port
forward I just dont understand now why I cant connect?? I also tried a few
experiments in Doom I was able to see the game servers. In Call of Duty I
was not able to see the server list??  I joined in LOMAC and that worked
then I tried CoD2 thru Kali I was able to join a server??

So why was I able to join my server Before and now I am not able too??

THNX Gerald
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Jordan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:52 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


> No need for the whole group to see this. Please continue to use the
> group for troubleshooting.
>
>
> I am sending a picture of my server console so you can see it. If you look
> close the IP address listed is an internal IP address of 192.168.1.101 and
> my external IP is 75.117.144.3   I am also including my command line to
> show
> you that the IP address isn't even listed.
>
> D:\HLServer\hlds.exe -console -game cstrike +port 27015 +hostname
> "Warcraft3
> Mod Fast XP" +map de_dust +maxplayers 9 -dll
> addons\metamod\dlls\metamod.dll
> -vacbeta  -autoupdate
>
> It appears from you reply to me that you were able to connect to the
> dedicated server, is this true? Did you drop on your own or did the server
> kick you? If you were actually able to connect and stay in then start your
> server, give the EXTERNAL IP and I can see if I (or a friend) can join.
> This
> will prove that your port forwarding is right.
>
> If the dedicated server works then I would find a way to blow the steam
> menu
> server away and reload/reinstall it.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:10 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
> well I just opened what Steam Support said to open?? if I dont need all
> them
> why do they say to open them all??
> I mostly fly Flight Simulators and I do not give out my internal IP for
> those I have to give out my external IP same goes for TS2, and Roger wilco
> Voice comms. I also was going by what STEAM support said about the IP it
> said that I need to use my External IP not my internal IP so I dont get it
> your telling me too ust the internal?? that dont make any sence as anybody
> joining my Game would need my External then any info to that ip will get
> passed to my internal IP via the router W/ Port Forward so I dont know
> what
> you mean by my knowledge level ??
> - Original Message -
> From: "DLinkOZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:26 PM
> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
>
>> Wow, that's a lot of ports you have forwarded... All you need to
>> forward is UDP for the port the server runs on (as long as you allow
>> outbound without rules).  As for requesting that info, it's basic
>> troubleshooting for just about anything sitting behind a firewall or
>> NAT device.  The point that you wanted to bind a machine behind your
>> router to a public IP sort of framed a picture of knowledge level (not
>> trying to be insulting, just being honest), so actually having the
>> details was needed before anyone here could write that off as not a
>> possible cause.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
>> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:00 PM
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>>
>> @DlinkOZ
>>
>> I Port Forward the Proper ports that was shown in the Steam Support site.
>> Ill post the screenshot of the Port Forward test page on another
>> website here is the link:
>>
>> http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=64&t=00129
>> 0
>>
>> Port Forwarding is NOT the problem Please Stop Asking for this info
>> THNX!!
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "DLinkOZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Frid

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread gerald

I was unable to join my server now I know I have it setup Properly in port
forward I just dont understand now why I cant connect?? I also tried a few
experiments in Doom I was able to see the game servers. In Call of Duty I
was not able to see the server list??  I joined in LOMAC and that worked
then I tried CoD2 thru Kali I was able to join a server??

So why was I able to join my server Before and now I am not able too??

THNX Gerald
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Jordan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:52 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



No need for the whole group to see this. Please continue to use the
group for troubleshooting.


I am sending a picture of my server console so you can see it. If you look
close the IP address listed is an internal IP address of 192.168.1.101 and
my external IP is 75.117.144.3   I am also including my command line to
show
you that the IP address isn't even listed.

D:\HLServer\hlds.exe -console -game cstrike +port 27015 +hostname
"Warcraft3
Mod Fast XP" +map de_dust +maxplayers 9 -dll
addons\metamod\dlls\metamod.dll
-vacbeta  -autoupdate

It appears from you reply to me that you were able to connect to the
dedicated server, is this true? Did you drop on your own or did the server
kick you? If you were actually able to connect and stay in then start your
server, give the EXTERNAL IP and I can see if I (or a friend) can join.
This
will prove that your port forwarding is right.

If the dedicated server works then I would find a way to blow the steam
menu
server away and reload/reinstall it.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:10 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

well I just opened what Steam Support said to open?? if I dont need all
them
why do they say to open them all??
I mostly fly Flight Simulators and I do not give out my internal IP for
those I have to give out my external IP same goes for TS2, and Roger wilco
Voice comms. I also was going by what STEAM support said about the IP it
said that I need to use my External IP not my internal IP so I dont get it
your telling me too ust the internal?? that dont make any sence as anybody
joining my Game would need my External then any info to that ip will get
passed to my internal IP via the router W/ Port Forward so I dont know
what
you mean by my knowledge level ??
- Original Message -
From: "DLinkOZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:26 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



Wow, that's a lot of ports you have forwarded... All you need to
forward is UDP for the port the server runs on (as long as you allow
outbound without rules).  As for requesting that info, it's basic
troubleshooting for just about anything sitting behind a firewall or
NAT device.  The point that you wanted to bind a machine behind your
router to a public IP sort of framed a picture of knowledge level (not
trying to be insulting, just being honest), so actually having the
details was needed before anyone here could write that off as not a
possible cause.




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:00 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

@DlinkOZ

I Port Forward the Proper ports that was shown in the Steam Support site.
Ill post the screenshot of the Port Forward test page on another
website here is the link:

http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=64&t=00129
0

Port Forwarding is NOT the problem Please Stop Asking for this info
THNX!!

- Original Message -
From: "DLinkOZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:47 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



I'll ask again, can you tell us exactly what port forwarding you've
done?
Such as:

"I have forwarded UDP 27015 to my server"

That would give us something to go on.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Brady
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:25 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP.
you plug your computers into the router. the router gives your
computers thier own 'internal' IPs. your computer does not have an
internal and external IP.
when you send and recieve data, the router says 'oh michaels computer
is going to google.com so ill send google.com stuff back to him' same
goes for hlds traffic, except the router doesnt know where to send it
because you are just listening, unless specified by port forwarding
or setting up a DMZ.
In
the case of custom.hpk 

RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread Edward Luna
I run several dedicated servers and the only port I have open for all the game 
servers is 27015 for TCP.  In router jargon this is the "initial connection" 
port and must be opened so the Internet can get to it. Of course the IP addy 
that the Internet sees is the Public (no need to say external) IP... the 
private IP, which no one can get directly to but you (private IP addresses are 
not addressable by routers in the Internet)... is the proverbial "can't get 
there from here".

The "initial connection" is made by someone on the Internet to the router's 
public IP address which is forwarded to the server.  IP then negotiates a "set" 
of ports to be used by the session and when both sides agree, the connection is 
moved to a whole different set of ports you know nothing about and have even 
less control over.  Your server then returns to "listening" on 27015 (in my 
case) for the next initial connection request. This is the simplest form of 
router function and depends on a rule of allowing "all" outgoing traffic but 
restricting incoming connections to only those you've specified. If you've done 
that then your good to go.  Remember... the only IP address you've really got 
to work with is the public IP.  A router performing NAT (network address 
translation) will multiplex that IP address across the 32,000 or so IP ports 
available on each host.

On the outside chance that you do have a duel homed system (two NIC's) then 
check the "binding order".  Make sure the NIC you want your game to "bind" to 
is first in the list or use the IP command line entry.  Best to do both.

-Original Message-
From: gerald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:10 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


well I just opened what Steam Support said to open?? if I dont need all them
why do they say to open them all??
I mostly fly Flight Simulators and I do not give out my internal IP for
those I have to give out my external IP same goes for TS2, and Roger wilco
Voice comms. I also was going by what STEAM support said about the IP it
said that I need to use my External IP not my internal IP so I dont get it
your telling me too ust the internal?? that dont make any sence as anybody
joining my Game would need my External then any info to that ip will get
passed to my internal IP via the router W/ Port Forward so I dont know what
you mean by my knowledge level ??
- Original Message -
From: "DLinkOZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:26 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


> Wow, that's a lot of ports you have forwarded... All you need to forward
> is
> UDP for the port the server runs on (as long as you allow outbound without
> rules).  As for requesting that info, it's basic troubleshooting for just
> about anything sitting behind a firewall or NAT device.  The point that
> you
> wanted to bind a machine behind your router to a public IP sort of framed
> a
> picture of knowledge level (not trying to be insulting, just being
> honest),
> so actually having the details was needed before anyone here could write
> that off as not a possible cause.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:00 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
> @DlinkOZ
>
> I Port Forward the Proper ports that was shown in the Steam Support site.
> Ill post the screenshot of the Port Forward test page on another website
> here is the link:
>
> http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=64&t=001290
>
> Port Forwarding is NOT the problem Please Stop Asking for this info THNX!!
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "DLinkOZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:47 PM
> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
>
>> I'll ask again, can you tell us exactly what port forwarding you've done?
>> Such as:
>>
>> "I have forwarded UDP 27015 to my server"
>>
>> That would give us something to go on.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Brady
>> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:25 PM
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>>
>> ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP. you
>> plug your computers into the router. the router gives your computers
>> thier
>> own 'internal' IP

RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread Michael Jordan
No need for the whole group to see this. Please continue to use the
group for troubleshooting.


I am sending a picture of my server console so you can see it. If you look
close the IP address listed is an internal IP address of 192.168.1.101 and
my external IP is 75.117.144.3   I am also including my command line to show
you that the IP address isn't even listed.

D:\HLServer\hlds.exe -console -game cstrike +port 27015 +hostname "Warcraft3
Mod Fast XP" +map de_dust +maxplayers 9 -dll addons\metamod\dlls\metamod.dll
-vacbeta  -autoupdate

It appears from you reply to me that you were able to connect to the
dedicated server, is this true? Did you drop on your own or did the server
kick you? If you were actually able to connect and stay in then start your
server, give the EXTERNAL IP and I can see if I (or a friend) can join. This
will prove that your port forwarding is right.

If the dedicated server works then I would find a way to blow the steam menu
server away and reload/reinstall it.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:10 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

well I just opened what Steam Support said to open?? if I dont need all them
why do they say to open them all??
I mostly fly Flight Simulators and I do not give out my internal IP for
those I have to give out my external IP same goes for TS2, and Roger wilco
Voice comms. I also was going by what STEAM support said about the IP it
said that I need to use my External IP not my internal IP so I dont get it
your telling me too ust the internal?? that dont make any sence as anybody
joining my Game would need my External then any info to that ip will get
passed to my internal IP via the router W/ Port Forward so I dont know what
you mean by my knowledge level ??
- Original Message -
From: "DLinkOZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:26 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


> Wow, that's a lot of ports you have forwarded... All you need to
> forward is UDP for the port the server runs on (as long as you allow
> outbound without rules).  As for requesting that info, it's basic
> troubleshooting for just about anything sitting behind a firewall or
> NAT device.  The point that you wanted to bind a machine behind your
> router to a public IP sort of framed a picture of knowledge level (not
> trying to be insulting, just being honest), so actually having the
> details was needed before anyone here could write that off as not a
> possible cause.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:00 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
> @DlinkOZ
>
> I Port Forward the Proper ports that was shown in the Steam Support site.
> Ill post the screenshot of the Port Forward test page on another
> website here is the link:
>
> http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=64&t=00129
> 0
>
> Port Forwarding is NOT the problem Please Stop Asking for this info THNX!!
>
> ----- Original Message -
> From: "DLinkOZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:47 PM
> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
>
>> I'll ask again, can you tell us exactly what port forwarding you've done?
>> Such as:
>>
>> "I have forwarded UDP 27015 to my server"
>>
>> That would give us something to go on.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Brady
>> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:25 PM
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>>
>> ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP.
>> you plug your computers into the router. the router gives your
>> computers thier own 'internal' IPs. your computer does not have an
>> internal and external IP.
>> when you send and recieve data, the router says 'oh michaels computer
>> is going to google.com so ill send google.com stuff back to him' same
>> goes for hlds traffic, except the router doesnt know where to send it
>> because you are just listening, unless specified by port forwarding
>> or setting up a DMZ.
>> In
>> the case of custom.hpk it just holds user spraypaints and the like im
>> pretty sure. remember though, you connot bind to an ip address that
>> is not on your machine. your 'external' ip is on the router, not you

RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread Edward Luna
Close enough, hehehe... but your puter can have an internal and an external IP 
if it is multi-homed...like mine is.  The rest of what you said is fairly 
accurate, in a down and dirty kinda way... well done.

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Brady [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:25 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP. you
plug your computers into the router. the router gives your computers thier
own 'internal' IPs. your computer does not have an internal and external IP.
when you send and recieve data, the router says 'oh michaels computer is
going to google.com so ill send google.com stuff back to him' same goes for
hlds traffic, except the router doesnt know where to send it because you are
just listening, unless specified by port forwarding or setting up a DMZ. In
the case of custom.hpk it just holds user spraypaints and the like im pretty
sure. remember though, you connot bind to an ip address that is not on your
machine. your 'external' ip is on the router, not your computer, you cant
bind to it. the same way i cant setup a server using your ip from my house.

- Original Message -
From: "gerald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


> @Michael
> I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error:
>
> ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk.
> Dropped Nephilim from server
> Reason:  Client sent 'drop'
>
>
> will that help figure out my problem?? Also I noticed it is using my
> Internal IP shouldnt it use my External??
> - Original Message -
> From: "Michael Jordan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:20 PM
> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
>
> > At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough
> > power,
> > you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my
> > server.
> > At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the server
> > console that will give a hint to your problem.
> >
> > BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >
> > @Scott
> > I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they
need
> > nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting
other
> > games just Halflife on Steam??  and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server
as
> > I
> > wanna play as well.
> > Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages.
Somewhat
> > usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open
or
> > Not.
> >
> > that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or
> > Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have exhausted
all
> > the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was sent here by
> > the
> > support site to get an answer to my question that they couldn't answer
why
> > I
> > cant Host??
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Scott Tuttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:34 PM
> > Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >
> >
> >> Steam page to test ports  What is that?  I am not aware of that.
> >>
> >> There servers really do need NOTHING special to work.
> >>
> >> When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address?
> >>
> >> Also what is the name of your server so you can check for it on
> >> www.gametiger.net ?
> >>
> >> If the ports are open and the server is running properly and it is
> >> seto to sv_lan 0 then they should work.  But you might also check to
> >> make sure you have the sv_region set properly.
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/h35as
> >>
> >> All the resources you need are located in the steampowered support
area.
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/koh6s
> >>
> >> Please check the very first 4 results from this search.  If you have
> >> already looked at them I suggest you look at them again and then
> >> verify them and maybe look at them and verify them again.  Triple
> >> check them

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread Ryan Brady
you are still not understanding. yes, you give out your external ip to
users, no you do not bind your server to that ip.

- Original Message -
From: "gerald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


> well I just opened what Steam Support said to open?? if I dont need all
them
> why do they say to open them all??
> I mostly fly Flight Simulators and I do not give out my internal IP for
> those I have to give out my external IP same goes for TS2, and Roger wilco
> Voice comms. I also was going by what STEAM support said about the IP it
> said that I need to use my External IP not my internal IP so I dont get it
> your telling me too ust the internal?? that dont make any sence as anybody
> joining my Game would need my External then any info to that ip will get
> passed to my internal IP via the router W/ Port Forward so I dont know
what
> you mean by my knowledge level ??
> - Original Message -
> From: "DLinkOZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:26 PM
> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
>
> > Wow, that's a lot of ports you have forwarded... All you need to forward
> > is
> > UDP for the port the server runs on (as long as you allow outbound
without
> > rules).  As for requesting that info, it's basic troubleshooting for
just
> > about anything sitting behind a firewall or NAT device.  The point that
> > you
> > wanted to bind a machine behind your router to a public IP sort of
framed
> > a
> > picture of knowledge level (not trying to be insulting, just being
> > honest),
> > so actually having the details was needed before anyone here could write
> > that off as not a possible cause.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:00 PM
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >
> > @DlinkOZ
> >
> > I Port Forward the Proper ports that was shown in the Steam Support
site.
> > Ill post the screenshot of the Port Forward test page on another website
> > here is the link:
> >
> > http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=64&t=001290
> >
> > Port Forwarding is NOT the problem Please Stop Asking for this info
THNX!!
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "DLinkOZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:47 PM
> > Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >
> >
> >> I'll ask again, can you tell us exactly what port forwarding you've
done?
> >> Such as:
> >>
> >> "I have forwarded UDP 27015 to my server"
> >>
> >> That would give us something to go on.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Brady
> >> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:25 PM
> >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >>
> >> ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP.
you
> >> plug your computers into the router. the router gives your computers
> >> thier
> >> own 'internal' IPs. your computer does not have an internal and
external
> >> IP.
> >> when you send and recieve data, the router says 'oh michaels computer
is
> >> going to google.com so ill send google.com stuff back to him' same goes
> >> for
> >> hlds traffic, except the router doesnt know where to send it because
you
> >> are
> >> just listening, unless specified by port forwarding or setting up a
DMZ.
> >> In
> >> the case of custom.hpk it just holds user spraypaints and the like im
> >> pretty
> >> sure. remember though, you connot bind to an ip address that is not on
> >> your
> >> machine. your 'external' ip is on the router, not your computer, you
cant
> >> bind to it. the same way i cant setup a server using your ip from my
> >> house.
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "gerald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:04 PM
> >> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >>
> >>
> >>> @Michael
> &

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread gerald

well I just opened what Steam Support said to open?? if I dont need all them
why do they say to open them all??
I mostly fly Flight Simulators and I do not give out my internal IP for
those I have to give out my external IP same goes for TS2, and Roger wilco
Voice comms. I also was going by what STEAM support said about the IP it
said that I need to use my External IP not my internal IP so I dont get it
your telling me too ust the internal?? that dont make any sence as anybody
joining my Game would need my External then any info to that ip will get
passed to my internal IP via the router W/ Port Forward so I dont know what
you mean by my knowledge level ??
- Original Message -
From: "DLinkOZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 10:26 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



Wow, that's a lot of ports you have forwarded... All you need to forward
is
UDP for the port the server runs on (as long as you allow outbound without
rules).  As for requesting that info, it's basic troubleshooting for just
about anything sitting behind a firewall or NAT device.  The point that
you
wanted to bind a machine behind your router to a public IP sort of framed
a
picture of knowledge level (not trying to be insulting, just being
honest),
so actually having the details was needed before anyone here could write
that off as not a possible cause.




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:00 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

@DlinkOZ

I Port Forward the Proper ports that was shown in the Steam Support site.
Ill post the screenshot of the Port Forward test page on another website
here is the link:

http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=64&t=001290

Port Forwarding is NOT the problem Please Stop Asking for this info THNX!!

- Original Message -
From: "DLinkOZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:47 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



I'll ask again, can you tell us exactly what port forwarding you've done?
Such as:

"I have forwarded UDP 27015 to my server"

That would give us something to go on.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Brady
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:25 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP. you
plug your computers into the router. the router gives your computers
thier
own 'internal' IPs. your computer does not have an internal and external
IP.
when you send and recieve data, the router says 'oh michaels computer is
going to google.com so ill send google.com stuff back to him' same goes
for
hlds traffic, except the router doesnt know where to send it because you
are
just listening, unless specified by port forwarding or setting up a DMZ.
In
the case of custom.hpk it just holds user spraypaints and the like im
pretty
sure. remember though, you connot bind to an ip address that is not on
your
machine. your 'external' ip is on the router, not your computer, you cant
bind to it. the same way i cant setup a server using your ip from my
house.

- Original Message -----
From: "gerald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



@Michael
I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error:

ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk.
Dropped Nephilim from server
Reason:  Client sent 'drop'


will that help figure out my problem?? Also I noticed it is using my
Internal IP shouldnt it use my External??
----- Original Message -
From: "Michael Jordan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:20 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


> At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough
> power,
> you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my
> server.
> At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the server
> console that will give a hint to your problem.
>
> BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
> @Scott
> I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they

need

> nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting

other

> games just Halflife on Steam??  and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server

as

> I
> wanna play as well.
> Yes, Ste

RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread DLinkOZ
Wow, that's a lot of ports you have forwarded... All you need to forward is
UDP for the port the server runs on (as long as you allow outbound without
rules).  As for requesting that info, it's basic troubleshooting for just
about anything sitting behind a firewall or NAT device.  The point that you
wanted to bind a machine behind your router to a public IP sort of framed a
picture of knowledge level (not trying to be insulting, just being honest),
so actually having the details was needed before anyone here could write
that off as not a possible cause.




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:00 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

@DlinkOZ

I Port Forward the Proper ports that was shown in the Steam Support site.
Ill post the screenshot of the Port Forward test page on another website
here is the link:

http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=64&t=001290

Port Forwarding is NOT the problem Please Stop Asking for this info THNX!!

- Original Message -
From: "DLinkOZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:47 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


> I'll ask again, can you tell us exactly what port forwarding you've done?
> Such as:
>
> "I have forwarded UDP 27015 to my server"
>
> That would give us something to go on.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Brady
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:25 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
> ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP. you
> plug your computers into the router. the router gives your computers thier
> own 'internal' IPs. your computer does not have an internal and external
> IP.
> when you send and recieve data, the router says 'oh michaels computer is
> going to google.com so ill send google.com stuff back to him' same goes
> for
> hlds traffic, except the router doesnt know where to send it because you
> are
> just listening, unless specified by port forwarding or setting up a DMZ.
> In
> the case of custom.hpk it just holds user spraypaints and the like im
> pretty
> sure. remember though, you connot bind to an ip address that is not on
> your
> machine. your 'external' ip is on the router, not your computer, you cant
> bind to it. the same way i cant setup a server using your ip from my
> house.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "gerald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
>
>> @Michael
>> I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error:
>>
>> ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk.
>> Dropped Nephilim from server
>> Reason:  Client sent 'drop'
>>
>>
>> will that help figure out my problem?? Also I noticed it is using my
>> Internal IP shouldnt it use my External??
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Michael Jordan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:20 PM
>> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>>
>>
>> > At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough
>> > power,
>> > you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my
>> > server.
>> > At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the server
>> > console that will give a hint to your problem.
>> >
>> > BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru.
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
>> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM
>> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> > Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>> >
>> > @Scott
>> > I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they
> need
>> > nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting
> other
>> > games just Halflife on Steam??  and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server
> as
>> > I
>> > wanna play as well.
>> > Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages.
> Somewhat
>> > usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open
> or
>> > Not.
>> >
>> > that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or
&g

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread gerald

@DlinkOZ

I Port Forward the Proper ports that was shown in the Steam Support site.
Ill post the screenshot of the Port Forward test page on another website
here is the link:

http://www.simhq.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=64&t=001290

Port Forwarding is NOT the problem Please Stop Asking for this info THNX!!

- Original Message -
From: "DLinkOZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:47 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



I'll ask again, can you tell us exactly what port forwarding you've done?
Such as:

"I have forwarded UDP 27015 to my server"

That would give us something to go on.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Brady
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:25 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP. you
plug your computers into the router. the router gives your computers thier
own 'internal' IPs. your computer does not have an internal and external
IP.
when you send and recieve data, the router says 'oh michaels computer is
going to google.com so ill send google.com stuff back to him' same goes
for
hlds traffic, except the router doesnt know where to send it because you
are
just listening, unless specified by port forwarding or setting up a DMZ.
In
the case of custom.hpk it just holds user spraypaints and the like im
pretty
sure. remember though, you connot bind to an ip address that is not on
your
machine. your 'external' ip is on the router, not your computer, you cant
bind to it. the same way i cant setup a server using your ip from my
house.

- Original Message -
From: "gerald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



@Michael
I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error:

ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk.
Dropped Nephilim from server
Reason:  Client sent 'drop'


will that help figure out my problem?? Also I noticed it is using my
Internal IP shouldnt it use my External??
- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Jordan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:20 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


> At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough
> power,
> you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my
> server.
> At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the server
> console that will give a hint to your problem.
>
> BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
> @Scott
> I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they

need

> nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting

other

> games just Halflife on Steam??  and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server

as

> I
> wanna play as well.
> Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages.

Somewhat

> usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open

or

> Not.
>
> that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or
> Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have exhausted

all

> the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was sent here
> by
> the
> support site to get an answer to my question that they couldn't answer

why

> I
> cant Host??
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Scott Tuttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:34 PM
> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
>
>> Steam page to test ports  What is that?  I am not aware of that.
>>
>> There servers really do need NOTHING special to work.
>>
>> When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address?
>>
>> Also what is the name of your server so you can check for it on
>> www.gametiger.net ?
>>
>> If the ports are open and the server is running properly and it is
>> seto to sv_lan 0 then they should work.  But you might also check to
>> make sure you have the sv_region set properly.
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/h35as
>>
>> All the resources you need are located in the steampowered support

area.

>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/koh6s
>>
>> Please check the very first 4 results from this search.  If you have
>> already looked at them I s

RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread DLinkOZ
I'll ask again, can you tell us exactly what port forwarding you've done?
Such as:

"I have forwarded UDP 27015 to my server"

That would give us something to go on.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Brady
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:25 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP. you
plug your computers into the router. the router gives your computers thier
own 'internal' IPs. your computer does not have an internal and external IP.
when you send and recieve data, the router says 'oh michaels computer is
going to google.com so ill send google.com stuff back to him' same goes for
hlds traffic, except the router doesnt know where to send it because you are
just listening, unless specified by port forwarding or setting up a DMZ. In
the case of custom.hpk it just holds user spraypaints and the like im pretty
sure. remember though, you connot bind to an ip address that is not on your
machine. your 'external' ip is on the router, not your computer, you cant
bind to it. the same way i cant setup a server using your ip from my house.

- Original Message -
From: "gerald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


> @Michael
> I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error:
>
> ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk.
> Dropped Nephilim from server
> Reason:  Client sent 'drop'
>
>
> will that help figure out my problem?? Also I noticed it is using my
> Internal IP shouldnt it use my External??
> - Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Jordan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:20 PM
> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
>
> > At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough
> > power,
> > you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my
> > server.
> > At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the server
> > console that will give a hint to your problem.
> >
> > BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >
> > @Scott
> > I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they
need
> > nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting
other
> > games just Halflife on Steam??  and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server
as
> > I
> > wanna play as well.
> > Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages.
Somewhat
> > usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open
or
> > Not.
> >
> > that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or
> > Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have exhausted
all
> > the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was sent here by
> > the
> > support site to get an answer to my question that they couldn't answer
why
> > I
> > cant Host??
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Scott Tuttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:34 PM
> > Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >
> >
> >> Steam page to test ports  What is that?  I am not aware of that.
> >>
> >> There servers really do need NOTHING special to work.
> >>
> >> When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address?
> >>
> >> Also what is the name of your server so you can check for it on
> >> www.gametiger.net ?
> >>
> >> If the ports are open and the server is running properly and it is
> >> seto to sv_lan 0 then they should work.  But you might also check to
> >> make sure you have the sv_region set properly.
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/h35as
> >>
> >> All the resources you need are located in the steampowered support
area.
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/koh6s
> >>
> >> Please check the very first 4 results from this search.  If you have
> >> already looked at them I suggest you look at them again and then
> >> verify them and maybe look at them and verify them again.  Triple
> >> che

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread Ryan Brady
ok, here is how a router works. the router gets an ip from your ISP. you
plug your computers into the router. the router gives your computers thier
own 'internal' IPs. your computer does not have an internal and external IP.
when you send and recieve data, the router says 'oh michaels computer is
going to google.com so ill send google.com stuff back to him' same goes for
hlds traffic, except the router doesnt know where to send it because you are
just listening, unless specified by port forwarding or setting up a DMZ. In
the case of custom.hpk it just holds user spraypaints and the like im pretty
sure. remember though, you connot bind to an ip address that is not on your
machine. your 'external' ip is on the router, not your computer, you cant
bind to it. the same way i cant setup a server using your ip from my house.

- Original Message -
From: "gerald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


> @Michael
> I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error:
>
> ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk.
> Dropped Nephilim from server
> Reason:  Client sent 'drop'
>
>
> will that help figure out my problem?? Also I noticed it is using my
> Internal IP shouldnt it use my External??
> - Original Message -
> From: "Michael Jordan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:20 PM
> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
>
> > At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough
> > power,
> > you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my
> > server.
> > At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the server
> > console that will give a hint to your problem.
> >
> > BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >
> > @Scott
> > I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they
need
> > nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting
other
> > games just Halflife on Steam??  and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server
as
> > I
> > wanna play as well.
> > Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages.
Somewhat
> > usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open
or
> > Not.
> >
> > that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or
> > Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have exhausted
all
> > the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was sent here by
> > the
> > support site to get an answer to my question that they couldn't answer
why
> > I
> > cant Host??
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Scott Tuttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:34 PM
> > Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >
> >
> >> Steam page to test ports  What is that?  I am not aware of that.
> >>
> >> There servers really do need NOTHING special to work.
> >>
> >> When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address?
> >>
> >> Also what is the name of your server so you can check for it on
> >> www.gametiger.net ?
> >>
> >> If the ports are open and the server is running properly and it is
> >> seto to sv_lan 0 then they should work.  But you might also check to
> >> make sure you have the sv_region set properly.
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/h35as
> >>
> >> All the resources you need are located in the steampowered support
area.
> >>
> >> http://tinyurl.com/koh6s
> >>
> >> Please check the very first 4 results from this search.  If you have
> >> already looked at them I suggest you look at them again and then
> >> verify them and maybe look at them and verify them again.  Triple
> >> check them.  Because these are all you need.
> >>
> >> -Scott
> >>
> >>
> >>> -Original Message-
> >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
> >>> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:01 PM
> >>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >>> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable 

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread Kyle Caulfield
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
what is your native language, maybe I can help you better if I knew that...

On 10/6/06, Michael Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough
> power,
> you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my
> server.
> At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the server
> console that will give a hint to your problem.
>
> BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
> @Scott
> I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they need
> nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting other
> games just Halflife on Steam??  and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server as
> I
> wanna play as well.
> Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages. Somewhat
> usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open or
> Not.
>
> that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or
> Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have exhausted all
> the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was sent here by
> the
> support site to get an answer to my question that they couldn't answer why
> I
> cant Host??
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -
> From: "Scott Tuttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:34 PM
> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
>
> > Steam page to test ports  What is that?  I am not aware of that.
> >
> > There servers really do need NOTHING special to work.
> >
> > When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address?
> >
> > Also what is the name of your server so you can check for it on
> > www.gametiger.net ?
> >
> > If the ports are open and the server is running properly and it is
> > seto to sv_lan 0 then they should work.  But you might also check to
> > make sure you have the sv_region set properly.
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/h35as
> >
> > All the resources you need are located in the steampowered support area.
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/koh6s
> >
> > Please check the very first 4 results from this search.  If you have
> > already looked at them I suggest you look at them again and then
> > verify them and maybe look at them and verify them again.  Triple
> > check them.  Because these are all you need.
> >
> > -Scott
> >
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
> >> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:01 PM
> >> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >>
> >> @DlinkOz
> >> here is a screenshot of the Steam page to Test Ports as you can see I
> >> passed so the ports are open and it is NOT a PF Problem if it was
> >> that simple I could solve it!!
> >>
> >> THNX Gerald
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "DLinkOZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:09 PM
> >> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >>
> >>
> >> >I may have missed it, but what forwarding rules exactly have
> >> you put in
> >> > place?  Honestly, it takes only 1 rule with any decent
> >> firewall to allow
> >> > direct IP connections.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
> >> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:38 AM
> >> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> >> > Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >> >
> >> > well you would LOOSe that bet;)  Port Forwarding is Setup
> >> Properly It is
> >> > NOT
> >> > a PF issue THNX for you comment tho!!
> >> > - Original Message -
> >> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > To: 
> >> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:50 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >> >
> >> >
> &

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread gerald

@Michael
I ran a dedicated server and recieved this error:

ERROR: couldn't open custom.hpk.
Dropped Nephilim from server
Reason:  Client sent 'drop'


will that help figure out my problem?? Also I noticed it is using my
Internal IP shouldnt it use my External??
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Jordan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 8:20 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough
power,
you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my
server.
At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the server
console that will give a hint to your problem.

BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

@Scott
I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they need
nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting other
games just Halflife on Steam??  and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server as
I
wanna play as well.
Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages. Somewhat
usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open or
Not.

that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or
Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have exhausted all
the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was sent here by
the
support site to get an answer to my question that they couldn't answer why
I
cant Host??




- Original Message -
From: "Scott Tuttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:34 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



Steam page to test ports  What is that?  I am not aware of that.

There servers really do need NOTHING special to work.

When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address?

Also what is the name of your server so you can check for it on
www.gametiger.net ?

If the ports are open and the server is running properly and it is
seto to sv_lan 0 then they should work.  But you might also check to
make sure you have the sv_region set properly.

http://tinyurl.com/h35as

All the resources you need are located in the steampowered support area.

http://tinyurl.com/koh6s

Please check the very first 4 results from this search.  If you have
already looked at them I suggest you look at them again and then
verify them and maybe look at them and verify them again.  Triple
check them.  Because these are all you need.

-Scott



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:01 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

@DlinkOz
here is a screenshot of the Steam page to Test Ports as you can see I
passed so the ports are open and it is NOT a PF Problem if it was
that simple I could solve it!!

THNX Gerald
- Original Message -
From: "DLinkOZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:09 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


>I may have missed it, but what forwarding rules exactly have
you put in
> place?  Honestly, it takes only 1 rule with any decent
firewall to allow
> direct IP connections.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:38 AM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
> well you would LOOSe that bet;)  Port Forwarding is Setup
Properly It is
> NOT
> a PF issue THNX for you comment tho!!
> - Original Message -
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:50 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
>
> I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set
up properly.
> If
> port forwarding is done right the game server will work,
people will be
> able
> to connect and it will eventually show up in the master
server list. I do
> not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine.
>
> The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably
> starting the server from the steam menu. You never see a command
line from there.
> It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it
makes it very
> hard to help someone out.
>
> My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't
have one. It's
> a
> pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I
just wish I
> could
> get more bandwidth in this hick town.
>>
>> From: 

RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread Michael Jordan
At least try running a dedicated server. If your computer has enough power,
you can play too. I was able to do it for a few days while fixing my server.
At the very least, maybe there will be an error message in the server
console that will give a hint to your problem.

BTW, your screen shot of the steam test page didn't come thru.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 7:44 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

@Scott
I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they need
nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting other
games just Halflife on Steam??  and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server as I
wanna play as well.
Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages. Somewhat
usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open or
Not.

that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or
Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have exhausted all
the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was sent here by the
support site to get an answer to my question that they couldn't answer why I
cant Host??




- Original Message -
From: "Scott Tuttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:34 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


> Steam page to test ports  What is that?  I am not aware of that.
>
> There servers really do need NOTHING special to work.
>
> When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address?
>
> Also what is the name of your server so you can check for it on
> www.gametiger.net ?
>
> If the ports are open and the server is running properly and it is
> seto to sv_lan 0 then they should work.  But you might also check to
> make sure you have the sv_region set properly.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/h35as
>
> All the resources you need are located in the steampowered support area.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/koh6s
>
> Please check the very first 4 results from this search.  If you have
> already looked at them I suggest you look at them again and then
> verify them and maybe look at them and verify them again.  Triple
> check them.  Because these are all you need.
>
> -Scott
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
>> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:01 PM
>> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>>
>> @DlinkOz
>> here is a screenshot of the Steam page to Test Ports as you can see I
>> passed so the ports are open and it is NOT a PF Problem if it was
>> that simple I could solve it!!
>>
>> THNX Gerald
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "DLinkOZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:09 PM
>> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>>
>>
>> >I may have missed it, but what forwarding rules exactly have
>> you put in
>> > place?  Honestly, it takes only 1 rule with any decent
>> firewall to allow
>> > direct IP connections.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
>> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:38 AM
>> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
>> > Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>> >
>> > well you would LOOSe that bet;)  Port Forwarding is Setup
>> Properly It is
>> > NOT
>> > a PF issue THNX for you comment tho!!
>> > - Original Message -
>> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: 
>> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:50 AM
>> > Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>> >
>> >
>> > I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set
>> up properly.
>> > If
>> > port forwarding is done right the game server will work,
>> people will be
>> > able
>> > to connect and it will eventually show up in the master
>> server list. I do
>> > not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine.
>> >
>> > The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably
>> > starting the server from the steam menu. You never see a command
>> line from there.
>> > It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it
>> makes it very
>> > hard to help someone out.
>> >
>> > My 

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread gerald

@Scott
I have a normal IP if that is what your looking for?? I realise they need
nuthing special but it just doesn't work, I have no Problem Hosting other
games just Halflife on Steam??  and I dont wanna do a Dedicated server as I
wanna play as well.
Yes, Steam has a TEST port page I found it on the Support Pages. Somewhat
usefull for Diagnosing Peoples problems to see if there ports are open or
Not.

that is why I am here trying to find out if it might be a Hardware or
Software problem as this is not a easy nut too crack, I have exhausted all
the Support sites FAQ and answers for common problems I was sent here by the
support site to get an answer to my question that they couldn't answer why I
cant Host??




- Original Message -
From: "Scott Tuttle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 4:34 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



Steam page to test ports  What is that?  I am not aware of that.

There servers really do need NOTHING special to work.

When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address?

Also what is the name of your server so you can check for it on
www.gametiger.net ?

If the ports are open and the server is running properly and it is seto to
sv_lan 0 then they should work.  But you might also check to make sure you
have the sv_region set properly.

http://tinyurl.com/h35as

All the resources you need are located in the steampowered support area.

http://tinyurl.com/koh6s

Please check the very first 4 results from this search.  If you have
already
looked at them I suggest you look at them again and then verify them and
maybe look at them and verify them again.  Triple check them.  Because
these
are all you need.

-Scott



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:01 PM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

@DlinkOz
here is a screenshot of the Steam page to Test Ports as you
can see I passed
so the ports are open and it is NOT a PF Problem if it was
that simple I
could solve it!!

THNX Gerald
- Original Message -
From: "DLinkOZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:09 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


>I may have missed it, but what forwarding rules exactly have
you put in
> place?  Honestly, it takes only 1 rule with any decent
firewall to allow
> direct IP connections.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:38 AM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
> well you would LOOSe that bet;)  Port Forwarding is Setup
Properly It is
> NOT
> a PF issue THNX for you comment tho!!
> - Original Message -----
> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:50 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
>
> I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set
up properly.
> If
> port forwarding is done right the game server will work,
people will be
> able
> to connect and it will eventually show up in the master
server list. I do
> not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine.
>
> The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably
> starting
> the server from the steam menu. You never see a command
line from there.
> It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it
makes it very
> hard to help someone out.
>
> My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't
have one. It's
> a
> pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I
just wish I
> could
> get more bandwidth in this hick town.
>>
>> From: "Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT
>> To: 
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>>
>> "if you want your server to appeare in the server list"
>> If you mean to have your server appear in the master list
at valve: not
>> relevant
>>
>> If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly
>> configed/connected)
>> your server will be added to the master list automatically.
>> All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to
>> remember
>> why to find a computer on internet (like www, ftp, email).
>>
>> "Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the
>> startup
>> line every time it is changed by the ISP"
>> Now I get it. ^__^
>> I tested it and that works indeed.
>>
>> I am so lucky that I have static IPs at my server and at
home. #^

RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread Scott Tuttle
Steam page to test ports  What is that?  I am not aware of that.

There servers really do need NOTHING special to work.

When you go to http://www.whatismyip.org/ what is your ip address?

Also what is the name of your server so you can check for it on
www.gametiger.net ?

If the ports are open and the server is running properly and it is seto to
sv_lan 0 then they should work.  But you might also check to make sure you
have the sv_region set properly.

http://tinyurl.com/h35as

All the resources you need are located in the steampowered support area.

http://tinyurl.com/koh6s

Please check the very first 4 results from this search.  If you have already
looked at them I suggest you look at them again and then verify them and
maybe look at them and verify them again.  Triple check them.  Because these
are all you need.

-Scott


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 2:01 PM
> To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
> @DlinkOz
> here is a screenshot of the Steam page to Test Ports as you
> can see I passed
> so the ports are open and it is NOT a PF Problem if it was
> that simple I
> could solve it!!
>
> THNX Gerald
> - Original Message -
> From: "DLinkOZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:09 PM
> Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
>
> >I may have missed it, but what forwarding rules exactly have
> you put in
> > place?  Honestly, it takes only 1 rule with any decent
> firewall to allow
> > direct IP connections.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:38 AM
> > To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
> > Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >
> > well you would LOOSe that bet;)  Port Forwarding is Setup
> Properly It is
> > NOT
> > a PF issue THNX for you comment tho!!
> > - Original Message -
> > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:50 AM
> > Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >
> >
> > I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set
> up properly.
> > If
> > port forwarding is done right the game server will work,
> people will be
> > able
> > to connect and it will eventually show up in the master
> server list. I do
> > not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine.
> >
> > The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably
> > starting
> > the server from the steam menu. You never see a command
> line from there.
> > It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it
> makes it very
> > hard to help someone out.
> >
> > My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't
> have one. It's
> > a
> > pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I
> just wish I
> > could
> > get more bandwidth in this hick town.
> >>
> >> From: "Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT
> >> To: 
> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >>
> >> "if you want your server to appeare in the server list"
> >> If you mean to have your server appear in the master list
> at valve: not
> >> relevant
> >>
> >> If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly
> >> configed/connected)
> >> your server will be added to the master list automatically.
> >> All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to
> >> remember
> >> why to find a computer on internet (like www, ftp, email).
> >>
> >> "Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the
> >> startup
> >> line every time it is changed by the ISP"
> >> Now I get it. ^__^
> >> I tested it and that works indeed.
> >>
> >> I am so lucky that I have static IPs at my server and at
> home. #^_^#
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Jose Pacheco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:43 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >>
> >>
> >> > No, the +ip 123.123.123.123 command in the start u is
> correct, but the
> >>

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread gerald

@DlinkOz
here is a screenshot of the Steam page to Test Ports as you can see I passed
so the ports are open and it is NOT a PF Problem if it was that simple I
could solve it!!

THNX Gerald
- Original Message -
From: "DLinkOZ" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:09 PM
Subject: RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



I may have missed it, but what forwarding rules exactly have you put in
place?  Honestly, it takes only 1 rule with any decent firewall to allow
direct IP connections.




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:38 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

well you would LOOSe that bet;)  Port Forwarding is Setup Properly It is
NOT
a PF issue THNX for you comment tho!!
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set up properly.
If
port forwarding is done right the game server will work, people will be
able
to connect and it will eventually show up in the master server list. I do
not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine.

The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably
starting
the server from the steam menu. You never see a command line from there.
It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it makes it very
hard to help someone out.

My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't have one. It's
a
pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I just wish I
could
get more bandwidth in this hick town.


From: "Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT
To: 
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

"if you want your server to appeare in the server list"
If you mean to have your server appear in the master list at valve: not
relevant

If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly
configed/connected)
your server will be added to the master list automatically.
All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to
remember
why to find a computer on internet (like www, ftp, email).

"Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the
startup
line every time it is changed by the ISP"
Now I get it. ^__^
I tested it and that works indeed.

I am so lucky that I have static IPs at my server and at home. #^_^#


- Original Message -
From: "Jose Pacheco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


> No, the +ip 123.123.123.123 command in the start u is correct, but the
> domain would be if you want your server to appeare in the server list,
> so
> the domain would be setup to the computer/server that is hosting the
> srcds
> box. Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the
> startup line every time it is changed by the ISP. Some like to make
> life
> easy some are masaquist, right? Or you can purchase a static ip if your
> ISP
> doesnt provide it free of charge.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sailor Mercury-sama (NL)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
>
>> @gerald
>> In the startup string add:
>> +ip 
>>
>> for example: +ip 123.123.123.123
>>
>> That should do it.
>>
>>
>> @jose
>> . really, how is a domainname going to tell an application that
>> wants
>> an
>> *IP* which IP it should use?
>> You need to use an IP address for this and not a domainname.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Jose Pacheco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>>
>>
>>> Hey dude it's really easy, you can simply get a free domain like
>>> www.no-ip.com or http://freedns.afraid.org  i believe is one, there
>>> are
>>> more
>>> but you can Google that. And Srcds does work off a domain instead of
>>> ip
>>> as
>>> well. So that would be your best solution right now.
>>>
>>> Hope this info helped out
>>>
>>> The Sourcekillaz Team
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "gerald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:03 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>>>
>>>
>>>> YES I have Heard of G

RE: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread DLinkOZ
I may have missed it, but what forwarding rules exactly have you put in
place?  Honestly, it takes only 1 rule with any decent firewall to allow
direct IP connections.




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of gerald
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:38 AM
To: hlds@list.valvesoftware.com
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

well you would LOOSe that bet;)  Port Forwarding is Setup Properly It is NOT
a PF issue THNX for you comment tho!!
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set up properly. If
port forwarding is done right the game server will work, people will be able
to connect and it will eventually show up in the master server list. I do
not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine.

The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably starting
the server from the steam menu. You never see a command line from there.
It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it makes it very
hard to help someone out.

My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't have one. It's a
pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I just wish I could
get more bandwidth in this hick town.
>
> From: "Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
> "if you want your server to appeare in the server list"
> If you mean to have your server appear in the master list at valve: not
> relevant
>
> If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly configed/connected)
> your server will be added to the master list automatically.
> All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to remember
> why to find a computer on internet (like www, ftp, email).
>
> "Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the
> startup
> line every time it is changed by the ISP"
> Now I get it. ^__^
> I tested it and that works indeed.
>
> I am so lucky that I have static IPs at my server and at home. #^_^#
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jose Pacheco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
>
> > No, the +ip 123.123.123.123 command in the start u is correct, but the
> > domain would be if you want your server to appeare in the server list,
> > so
> > the domain would be setup to the computer/server that is hosting the
> > srcds
> > box. Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the
> > startup line every time it is changed by the ISP. Some like to make life
> > easy some are masaquist, right? Or you can purchase a static ip if your
> > ISP
> > doesnt provide it free of charge.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Sailor Mercury-sama (NL)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:21 AM
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >
> >
> >> @gerald
> >> In the startup string add:
> >> +ip 
> >>
> >> for example: +ip 123.123.123.123
> >>
> >> That should do it.
> >>
> >>
> >> @jose
> >> . really, how is a domainname going to tell an application that
> >> wants
> >> an
> >> *IP* which IP it should use?
> >> You need to use an IP address for this and not a domainname.
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Jose Pacheco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:56 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hey dude it's really easy, you can simply get a free domain like
> >>> www.no-ip.com or http://freedns.afraid.org  i believe is one, there
> >>> are
> >>> more
> >>> but you can Google that. And Srcds does work off a domain instead of
> >>> ip
> >>> as
> >>> well. So that would be your best solution right now.
> >>>
> >>> Hope this info helped out
> >>>
> >>> The Sourcekillaz Team
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: "gerald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> To: 
> >>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:03 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt bec

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread LDuke
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
The server definitily shouldn't be bound to the external port on your
router. It shouldn't even be possible to do that.

The server IP will be something like 192.168.0.4. People connect by using
your public IP and the router forwards the traffic. If they can't connect
using the public IP, then there is something set wrong: the port forwarding
is setup wrong, the computer you are hosting srcds on has a firewall setup,
etc.


On 10/6/06, gerald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> SORRY but I am VERY Familiar with Port Forwarding it is setup Properly it
> is
> NOT an issue with port forwarding
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 12:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
>
> > --
> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > Hence the reason he was sent to the STEAM Forums
> >
> > Do not pass go
> >
> > Do not collect $200
> >
> > On 10/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set up
> properly.
> >> If port forwarding is done right the game server will work, people will
> >> be
> >> able to connect and it will eventually show up in the master server
> list.
> >> I
> >> do not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine.
> >>
> >> The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably
> >> starting the server from the steam menu. You never see a command line
> >> from
> >> there. It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it makes
> >> it
> >> very hard to help someone out.
> >>
> >> My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't have one.
> It's
> >> a pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I just wish I
> >> could get more bandwidth in this hick town.
> >> >
> >> > From: "Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT
> >> > To: 
> >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >> >
> >> > "if you want your server to appeare in the server list"
> >> > If you mean to have your server appear in the master list at valve:
> not
> >> > relevant
> >> >
> >> > If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly
> >> configed/connected)
> >> > your server will be added to the master list automatically.
> >> > All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to
> >> remember
> >> > why to find a computer on internet (like www, ftp, email).
> >> >
> >> > "Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the
> >> startup
> >> > line every time it is changed by the ISP"
> >> > Now I get it. ^__^
> >> > I tested it and that works indeed.
> >> >
> >> > I am so lucky that I have static IPs at my server and at home. #^_^#
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > - Original Message -
> >> > From: "Jose Pacheco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > To: 
> >> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:43 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > No, the +ip 123.123.123.123 command in the start u is correct, but
> >> > > the
> >> > > domain would be if you want your server to appeare in the server
> >> > > list,
> >> so
> >> > > the domain would be setup to the computer/server that is hosting
> the
> >> srcds
> >> > > box. Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in
> >> the
> >> > > startup line every time it is changed by the ISP. Some like to make
> >> life
> >> > > easy some are masaquist, right? Or you can purchase a static ip if
> >> your
> >> > > ISP
> >> > > doesnt provide it free of charge.
> >> > >
> >> > > - Original Message -
> >> > > From: "Sailor Mercury-sama (NL)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > > To: 
> >> > > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:21 AM
> >> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >> > >
> >> > >
>

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread gerald

well you would LOOSe that bet;)  Port Forwarding is Setup Properly It is NOT
a PF issue THNX for you comment tho!!
- Original Message -
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set up properly. If
port forwarding is done right the game server will work, people will be able
to connect and it will eventually show up in the master server list. I do
not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine.

The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably starting
the server from the steam menu. You never see a command line from there.
It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it makes it very
hard to help someone out.

My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't have one. It's a
pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I just wish I could
get more bandwidth in this hick town.


From: "Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT
To: 
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

"if you want your server to appeare in the server list"
If you mean to have your server appear in the master list at valve: not
relevant

If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly configed/connected)
your server will be added to the master list automatically.
All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to remember
why to find a computer on internet (like www, ftp, email).

"Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the
startup
line every time it is changed by the ISP"
Now I get it. ^__^
I tested it and that works indeed.

I am so lucky that I have static IPs at my server and at home. #^_^#


- Original Message -
From: "Jose Pacheco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..


> No, the +ip 123.123.123.123 command in the start u is correct, but the
> domain would be if you want your server to appeare in the server list,
> so
> the domain would be setup to the computer/server that is hosting the
> srcds
> box. Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the
> startup line every time it is changed by the ISP. Some like to make life
> easy some are masaquist, right? Or you can purchase a static ip if your
> ISP
> doesnt provide it free of charge.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Sailor Mercury-sama (NL)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
>
>> @gerald
>> In the startup string add:
>> +ip 
>>
>> for example: +ip 123.123.123.123
>>
>> That should do it.
>>
>>
>> @jose
>> . really, how is a domainname going to tell an application that
>> wants
>> an
>> *IP* which IP it should use?
>> You need to use an IP address for this and not a domainname.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Jose Pacheco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>>
>>
>>> Hey dude it's really easy, you can simply get a free domain like
>>> www.no-ip.com or http://freedns.afraid.org  i believe is one, there
>>> are
>>> more
>>> but you can Google that. And Srcds does work off a domain instead of
>>> ip
>>> as
>>> well. So that would be your best solution right now.
>>>
>>> Hope this info helped out
>>>
>>> The Sourcekillaz Team
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "gerald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:03 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>>>
>>>
>>>> YES I have Heard of Google but I was Directed here if you DONT wanna
>>>> Answer
>>>> my Question thean DONT!!
>>>>
>>>> My Problem is NOT Port Forwarding I have that covered. the problem is
>>>> that
>>>> Stem is using My Internal IP I need STEAM or HL to use my EXTERNAL
>>>> IP!!
>>>>
>>>> READ THE POST SHEESH!!
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Robert Whelan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:36 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Heard of google dood, sheesh?
>>&

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread gerald

SORRY but I am VERY Familiar with Port Forwarding it is setup Properly it is
NOT an issue with port forwarding


- Original Message -
From: "Whisper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..



--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Hence the reason he was sent to the STEAM Forums

Do not pass go

Do not collect $200

On 10/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set up properly.
If port forwarding is done right the game server will work, people will
be
able to connect and it will eventually show up in the master server list.
I
do not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine.

The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably
starting the server from the steam menu. You never see a command line
from
there. It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it makes
it
very hard to help someone out.

My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't have one. It's
a pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I just wish I
could get more bandwidth in this hick town.
>
> From: "Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
> "if you want your server to appeare in the server list"
> If you mean to have your server appear in the master list at valve: not
> relevant
>
> If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly
configed/connected)
> your server will be added to the master list automatically.
> All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to
remember
> why to find a computer on internet (like www, ftp, email).
>
> "Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the
startup
> line every time it is changed by the ISP"
> Now I get it. ^__^
> I tested it and that works indeed.
>
> I am so lucky that I have static IPs at my server and at home. #^_^#
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jose Pacheco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
>
> > No, the +ip 123.123.123.123 command in the start u is correct, but
> > the
> > domain would be if you want your server to appeare in the server
> > list,
so
> > the domain would be setup to the computer/server that is hosting the
srcds
> > box. Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in
the
> > startup line every time it is changed by the ISP. Some like to make
life
> > easy some are masaquist, right? Or you can purchase a static ip if
your
> > ISP
> > doesnt provide it free of charge.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Sailor Mercury-sama (NL)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:21 AM
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >
> >
> >> @gerald
> >> In the startup string add:
> >> +ip 
> >>
> >> for example: +ip 123.123.123.123
> >>
> >> That should do it.
> >>
> >>
> >> @jose
> >> . really, how is a domainname going to tell an application that
wants
> >> an
> >> *IP* which IP it should use?
> >> You need to use an IP address for this and not a domainname.
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Jose Pacheco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:56 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hey dude it's really easy, you can simply get a free domain like
> >>> www.no-ip.com or http://freedns.afraid.org  i believe is one, there
are
> >>> more
> >>> but you can Google that. And Srcds does work off a domain instead
> >>> of
ip
> >>> as
> >>> well. So that would be your best solution right now.
> >>>
> >>> Hope this info helped out
> >>>
> >>> The Sourcekillaz Team
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: "gerald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> To: 
> >>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:03 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> YES I have Heard of Google but I was Directed here if you DONT
wanna
> >>>> Answer
> >>>> my Question thean DONT!!
> >

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread Whisper
--
[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
Hence the reason he was sent to the STEAM Forums

Do not pass go

Do not collect $200

On 10/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set up properly.
> If port forwarding is done right the game server will work, people will be
> able to connect and it will eventually show up in the master server list. I
> do not have my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine.
>
> The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably
> starting the server from the steam menu. You never see a command line from
> there. It's nice that you can start a server multiple ways but it makes it
> very hard to help someone out.
>
> My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't have one. It's
> a pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I just wish I
> could get more bandwidth in this hick town.
> >
> > From: "Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT
> > To: 
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >
> > "if you want your server to appeare in the server list"
> > If you mean to have your server appear in the master list at valve: not
> > relevant
> >
> > If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly
> configed/connected)
> > your server will be added to the master list automatically.
> > All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to
> remember
> > why to find a computer on internet (like www, ftp, email).
> >
> > "Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the
> startup
> > line every time it is changed by the ISP"
> > Now I get it. ^__^
> > I tested it and that works indeed.
> >
> > I am so lucky that I have static IPs at my server and at home. #^_^#
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Jose Pacheco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:43 PM
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >
> >
> > > No, the +ip 123.123.123.123 command in the start u is correct, but the
> > > domain would be if you want your server to appeare in the server list,
> so
> > > the domain would be setup to the computer/server that is hosting the
> srcds
> > > box. Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in
> the
> > > startup line every time it is changed by the ISP. Some like to make
> life
> > > easy some are masaquist, right? Or you can purchase a static ip if
> your
> > > ISP
> > > doesnt provide it free of charge.
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Sailor Mercury-sama (NL)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: 
> > > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:21 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> > >
> > >
> > >> @gerald
> > >> In the startup string add:
> > >> +ip 
> > >>
> > >> for example: +ip 123.123.123.123
> > >>
> > >> That should do it.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> @jose
> > >> . really, how is a domainname going to tell an application that
> wants
> > >> an
> > >> *IP* which IP it should use?
> > >> You need to use an IP address for this and not a domainname.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> - Original Message -
> > >> From: "Jose Pacheco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> To: 
> > >> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:56 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Hey dude it's really easy, you can simply get a free domain like
> > >>> www.no-ip.com or http://freedns.afraid.org  i believe is one, there
> are
> > >>> more
> > >>> but you can Google that. And Srcds does work off a domain instead of
> ip
> > >>> as
> > >>> well. So that would be your best solution right now.
> > >>>
> > >>> Hope this info helped out
> > >>>
> > >>> The Sourcekillaz Team
> > >>> - Original Message -
> > >>> From: "gerald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>> To: 
> > >>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:03 PM
> > >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> > >>>
> > >>>
> >  YES I have Heard of Google but I was Directed here if you DONT
> wanna
> >  Answer
> >  my Question thean DONT!!
> > 
> >  My Problem is NOT Port Forwarding I have that covered. the problem
> is
> >  that
> >  Stem is using My Internal IP I need STEAM or HL to use my EXTERNAL
> IP!!
> > 
> >  READ THE POST SHEESH!!
> >  - Original Message -
> >  From: "Robert Whelan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  To: 
> >  Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:36 PM
> >  Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> > 
> > 
> > > Heard of google dood, sheesh?
> > >
> > > anyways..
> > >
> > > http://hlds101.com/hlds101/networking.htm
> > >
> > > --- Father dougal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >> --
> > >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> > >> what do u mean by u cant host half life? do u get some sort of
> error
> > >> ? im
> > >> behind a router and i can run both a server

Re: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..

2006-10-06 Thread mjjordan
I would bet that this guy does not have port forwarding set up properly. If 
port forwarding is done right the game server will work, people will be able to 
connect and it will eventually show up in the master server list. I do not have 
my server bound to the external IP and it works just fine.

The reason he has no clue about the command line is he is probably starting the 
server from the steam menu. You never see a command line from there. It's nice 
that you can start a server multiple ways but it makes it very hard to help 
someone out.

My IPS charges 20 bucks a month for a static IP so I don't have one. It's a 
pain when the IP changes BUT my server works just fine. I just wish I could get 
more bandwidth in this hick town.
>
> From: "Sailor Mercury-sama \(NL\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2006/10/06 Fri AM 10:28:20 CDT
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
> "if you want your server to appeare in the server list"
> If you mean to have your server appear in the master list at valve: not
> relevant
>
> If you start a game server on steam (and it's properly configed/connected)
> your server will be added to the master list automatically.
> All a domainname does is to provide people on internet an easy to remember
> why to find a computer on internet (like www, ftp, email).
>
> "Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the startup
> line every time it is changed by the ISP"
> Now I get it. ^__^
> I tested it and that works indeed.
>
> I am so lucky that I have static IPs at my server and at home. #^_^#
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jose Pacheco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
>
>
> > No, the +ip 123.123.123.123 command in the start u is correct, but the
> > domain would be if you want your server to appeare in the server list, so
> > the domain would be setup to the computer/server that is hosting the srcds
> > box. Otherwise you would have to change your plublic ip manually in the
> > startup line every time it is changed by the ISP. Some like to make life
> > easy some are masaquist, right? Or you can purchase a static ip if your
> > ISP
> > doesnt provide it free of charge.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Sailor Mercury-sama (NL)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 6:21 AM
> > Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >
> >
> >> @gerald
> >> In the startup string add:
> >> +ip 
> >>
> >> for example: +ip 123.123.123.123
> >>
> >> That should do it.
> >>
> >>
> >> @jose
> >> . really, how is a domainname going to tell an application that wants
> >> an
> >> *IP* which IP it should use?
> >> You need to use an IP address for this and not a domainname.
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Jose Pacheco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:56 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hey dude it's really easy, you can simply get a free domain like
> >>> www.no-ip.com or http://freedns.afraid.org  i believe is one, there are
> >>> more
> >>> but you can Google that. And Srcds does work off a domain instead of ip
> >>> as
> >>> well. So that would be your best solution right now.
> >>>
> >>> Hope this info helped out
> >>>
> >>> The Sourcekillaz Team
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: "gerald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>> To: 
> >>> Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:03 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> >>>
> >>>
>  YES I have Heard of Google but I was Directed here if you DONT wanna
>  Answer
>  my Question thean DONT!!
> 
>  My Problem is NOT Port Forwarding I have that covered. the problem is
>  that
>  Stem is using My Internal IP I need STEAM or HL to use my EXTERNAL IP!!
> 
>  READ THE POST SHEESH!!
>  - Original Message -
>  From: "Robert Whelan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: 
>  Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 8:36 PM
>  Subject: Re: [hlds] Unable to HOSt because..
> 
> 
> > Heard of google dood, sheesh?
> >
> > anyways..
> >
> > http://hlds101.com/hlds101/networking.htm
> >
> > --- Father dougal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> --
> >> [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >> what do u mean by u cant host half life? do u get some sort of error
> >> ? im
> >> behind a router and i can run both a server and steam and connect. if
> >> others
> >> want to connect u have to forward the ports on the router
> >>
> >> On 06/10/06, gerald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
> >> > --
> >> > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ]
> >> > Hi, I was sent here by the STEAM tech support as they couldnt
> >> answer my
> >> > question so they said to post here.
> >> >
> >>