[LegacyUG] ProMedia Manager

[Momalot66]

Has anyone had experience with the ProMedia  Manager mentioned on the 
Pictures CD?  It sounds neat, but I cannot find it  on the Legacy Homepage.  
And by 
the way, we have an update:  Legacy  Deluxe 7.0.0.89!   

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[LegacyUG] missing sources

[Dede Holden]

I need advice.

My next project is to add sources to all the people in my database who
don't have ANY source.  Yes, I confess.  In the past  I added names
and dates, but after converting to Legacy, I've tried to do a better
job of sourcing as I add.  However, I still have quite a few
(hundreds) who don't have any source.

I've looked at the Missing Sources report.  Here's my dilemma.  The
report is sorted by surname, starting with all those women who don't
have a last name.  Is there a way to sort by MRIN so that I could work
on the whole family at one time, going down the list?

Is it better to assign one of the visible tag numbers so that I can
see at a glance who needs work?

Has anyone else worked on adding missing sources?  What is the best
systematic way to accomplish this task?

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Dede Holden



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[LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record

[Ann Parsons]

I would like to print a FGR leaving off the USA and having aft changed to 
after, bef to before and especially change cir to about.

Can these changes be done? If so, would this be a specific report or would 
it be global. I do have short locations that do not have the USA. In 
customize, dates I have Circa display as abt. Using v.7.0.0.86.

Thank you,
Ann Parsons
Alamogordo, New Mexico 




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RE: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record

[ronald ferguson]

 
Ann
 
1) Go to Options>Customise>Dates on the right change the display column to what 
you wish.
 
2) in Family Group, go to Report Options>Format and check the "use short 
loaction names" box



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> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record
> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 05:31:53 -0600
>
> I would like to print a FGR leaving off the USA and having aft changed to
> after, bef to before and especially change cir to about.
>
> Can these changes be done? If so, would this be a specific report or would
> it be global. I do have short locations that do not have the USA. In
> customize, dates I have Circa display as abt. Using v.7.0.0.86.
>
> Thank you,
> Ann Parsons
> Alamogordo, New Mexico
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record

[Ann Parsons]

Ron,

Thank you for helping me. Changing to short locations is my fault, for some 
reason, sometimes things in the lower left of the screen I do not see. I 
checked the use short dates & it works perfectly.

The abt vs cir has me stumped. I had the circa changed to about and about to 
abt. I could not get, when I typed abt, to stop changing to cir on the 
report. Just now I changed about to about and circa to about and the report 
still reads cir. I have the dates for these people, for example, as about 
1815. Am I in the wrong place? I went to options, customise, prefixes in the 
typed column for about and typed about I went to the display circa and typed 
about. Then I clicked on save. I tried closing the program, when I opened 
the program it still has cir. If this person, Hugh Cochrane, is the main 
person it has about. If I move down to the son then Hugh changes to cir. I 
don't mean to be picky but the people I send this to understand about they 
do not understand cir. Perhaps I hang out with some low life but the circa 
seems about as pretentious as does the compiler information - produced by, I 
would much rather have the reports read created or compiled by.

While I am on my soap box, I have never been able to get anything I enter in 
the comments field to print. I like to have Additions and corrections 
appreciated. I have to put this in the email field to get it to print. I 
have tried to use the comments field for years and cannot seem to get it to 
show on the computer screen or print outs.

Regards,
Ann


- Original Message - 
From: "ronald ferguson" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 6:00 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record




Ann

1) Go to Options>Customise>Dates on the right change the display column to 
what you wish.

2) in Family Group, go to Report Options>Format and check the "use short 
loaction names" box



Ron Ferguson

_

*New Tutorial* Using the GIMP Mask
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
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> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record
> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 05:31:53 -0600
>
> I would like to print a FGR leaving off the USA and having aft changed to
> after, bef to before and especially change cir to about.
>
> Can these changes be done? If so, would this be a specific report or would
> it be global. I do have short locations that do not have the USA. In
> customize, dates I have Circa display as abt. Using v.7.0.0.86.
>
> Thank you,
> Ann Parsons
> Alamogordo, New Mexico
>
>
>
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Questions from a new user

[Michele Lewis]

I only put that [as an AKA] if I have a record that lists the wife as Mrs. 
Benamin Jones.  In the primary name field I will put UNKNOWN and then as an 
AKA I will put Mrs. B. Jones or Mrs. Benjamin Jones [usually you will find 
females listed as Mrs. something in obituaries.


michele

- Original Message - 
From: "JCTripp" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 2:01 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Questions from a new user



I name my unknown spouse with "Mrs. given name (w/o Benjamin Jones)" as
given name and  "Jones" as surname. I use a like method for husbands with
given name starting with Mr. Like your method Howland, my 'unknowns' 
appear

on the name list with appropriate surname of spouse. In addition, I can
search the name list by given name "Mr." or "Mrs." to see all unknowns of
same sex together. Works for me. I thank you for posting your method to 
the

list.
Regards, Jane Tripp

- Original Message - 
From: howlanddavi...@aol.com

To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Saturday, March 07, 2009 6:17 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Questions from a new user


Listers:

   I had previously sent this out off-list to Ralph but have decided to
send it to the list afterall.

In a message dated 3/5/2009 11:50:48 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
ralfs...@rochester.rr.com writes:
1. How do I add a “blank” spouse, i.e., indicate that a person has a 
spouse

when the name of the spouse is not known? When I attempt to add a spouse
without a name I get the error message "You must enter a name to save an
individual".  I know that you have received at least response to the
question above but I have a different response.  If you use "Unknown" as
the spouse and later you try to find that person, you will be looking
through a lot of "Unknowns."  I have changed all of my "Unknowns," and
Legacy accepts my method (), as follows: make the spouse's name "(spouse 
of

Charles Smith)" or whatever (would work for brother, sister, etc.).  Now
when you search under surnames, all of the unknown spouses will come up
together and you can pick out the right one easily.
   Just my thoughts.  Good luck with Legacy and keep asking questions.  I
know that I don't use anywhere near all of its capability so I read the
questions and responses and if they look like I would like to do it, then 
I

print/save the question and responses.

Howland Davis
howlanddavi...@aol.com




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[LegacyUG] bug in newest update?

[Dede Holden]

I believe there is a bug in some of the Sourcewriter templates in the
newest update.  I've already submitted a bug report, but I wanted to
save all of you the worry if this happens to you.

For some reason, when you are entering the specifics in Step 2 of the
templates, you will get a "Runtime Error '5': Invalid procedure call
or argument."  The two specific templates I've had a problem with are
the Artifacts template and the 1900 census template.  When you click
OK, Legacy closes.

I can reproduce the error, so I've submitted a bug report.  The Family
record template worked fine, so I don't think it's a problem specific
to my computer.  BTW, running Windows XP on an HP laptop.

If someone else tries this and gets a different result will you let me know?

Dede Holden



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RE: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record

[ronald ferguson]

Ann,
 
Re: Abt and Cir. The changes of both to "about" stick for me. Ubfortunately the 
Dates does not have its own Reset button, otherwise I would suggest using it! 
The Reset at the bottom will reset all your settings which is a heck of a pain.
 
Why did you close the program btw? When you make your changes have you had a 
look at Family View, if the two have been changed to "about" there then they 
should also be in your Report, can you check this please.



Ron Ferguson

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> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record
> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 06:50:56 -0600
>
> Ron,
>
> Thank you for helping me. Changing to short locations is my fault, for some
> reason, sometimes things in the lower left of the screen I do not see. I
> checked the use short dates & it works perfectly.
>
> The abt vs cir has me stumped. I had the circa changed to about and about to
> abt. I could not get, when I typed abt, to stop changing to cir on the
> report. Just now I changed about to about and circa to about and the report
> still reads cir. I have the dates for these people, for example, as about
> 1815. Am I in the wrong place? I went to options, customise, prefixes in the
> typed column for about and typed about I went to the display circa and typed
> about. Then I clicked on save. I tried closing the program, when I opened
> the program it still has cir. If this person, Hugh Cochrane, is the main
> person it has about. If I move down to the son then Hugh changes to cir. I
> don't mean to be picky but the people I send this to understand about they
> do not understand cir. Perhaps I hang out with some low life but the circa
> seems about as pretentious as does the compiler information - produced by, I
> would much rather have the reports read created or compiled by.
>
> While I am on my soap box, I have never been able to get anything I enter in
> the comments field to print. I like to have Additions and corrections
> appreciated. I have to put this in the email field to get it to print. I
> have tried to use the comments field for years and cannot seem to get it to
> show on the computer screen or print outs.
>
> Regards,
> Ann
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "ronald ferguson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 6:00 AM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record
>
>
>
>
> Ann
>
> 1) Go to Options>Customise>Dates on the right change the display column to
> what you wish.
>
> 2) in Family Group, go to Report Options>Format and check the "use short
> loaction names" box
>
>
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> _
>
> *New Tutorial* Using the GIMP Mask
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> _
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record
>> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 05:31:53 -0600
>>
>> I would like to print a FGR leaving off the USA and having aft changed to
>> after, bef to before and especially change cir to about.
>>
>> Can these changes be done? If so, would this be a specific report or would
>> it be global. I do have short locations that do not have the USA. In
>> customize, dates I have Circa display as abt. Using v.7.0.0.86.
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Ann Parsons
>> Alamogordo, New Mexico
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Create a list by source detail

[Connie Sheets]

Frances  wrote:

> > Is there any way to create a list by source detail, as
> opposed to Master source?
> For example. My master source is English Census Lancashire
> 1861. I have several records covering different streets and
> areas within Lancashire in 1861, each with its own source
> detail. I want to print out a list by source detail. Can
> this be done?


Try Search > Detailed Search with the Primary Condition set as Individual, 
Source-Citation, contains, and enter the name of street or area.  Then Create 
List > Print.  You will have to search and print a separate list for each 
street name/area, but at least you should be able to pull out the data.

While I am more of a splitter and my work is almost 100% USA, (for this very 
reason; I have a master source for each township or enumeration district in 
each census year), I did have a roughly equivalent situation that this 
procedure was able to pull up for me.  Let us know if it works for you.

Connie


  




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Re: [LegacyUG] Create a list by source detail - addendum

[Connie Sheets]

Actually, now that I think about it longer, you may want to set the Primary 
Condition as Individual - Master Source - contains Lancashire 1861, then add a 
second condition as I described. 


--- On Sun, 3/8/09, Connie Sheets  wrote:

> Frances  wrote:
> 
> > > Is there any way to create a list by source
> detail, as
> > opposed to Master source?
> > For example. My master source is English Census
> Lancashire
> > 1861. I have several records covering different
> streets and
> > areas within Lancashire in 1861, each with its own
> source
> > detail. I want to print out a list by source detail.
> Can
> > this be done?
> 
> 
> Try Search > Detailed Search with the Primary Condition
> set as Individual, Source-Citation, contains, and enter the
> name of street or area.  Then Create List > Print.  You
> will have to search and print a separate list for each
> street name/area, but at least you should be able to pull
> out the data.
> 
> While I am more of a splitter and my work is almost 100%
> USA, (for this very reason; I have a master source for each
> township or enumeration district in each census year), I did
> have a roughly equivalent situation that this procedure was
> able to pull up for me.  Let us know if it works for you.
> 
> Connie



  




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Re: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record

[Ann Parsons]

Ron,

I closed the program as I had read on the LUG that sometimes a person having 
problems were advised to try that. In the family view for Hugh & Eliz they 
have always had about. It is when I do a FGR for their children that the 
about changes to cir.

In the family view for Hugh Cochrane his birth is about 1815. In the 
reports, family group report he is about, his wife Eliza has about, his 
children are about. I do not have parents for him or his wife.

In the family view for his son John Cochrane, I have dates for him, his wife 
& children. In the reports, family group report John's parents, Hugh & Eliza 
now have cir.

I tried deleting the birth data for Hugh & Eliz and saving, then re-entering 
the about 1815 and about 1820 respectively. Still cir in the FGR for his son 
John.

I looked at the FGR preview for some of their other children, Hugh & Eliza 
have cir.

Before I would do the reset which is a pain I would just as soon take a dose 
of salts. Perhaps I should just send a disclaimer along with the report that 
the program I use will not print about for parents.

Ann






- Original Message - 
From: "ronald ferguson" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 7:37 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record



Ann,

Re: Abt and Cir. The changes of both to "about" stick for me. Ubfortunately 
the Dates does not have its own Reset button, otherwise I would suggest 
using it! The Reset at the bottom will reset all your settings which is a 
heck of a pain.

Why did you close the program btw? When you make your changes have you had a 
look at Family View, if the two have been changed to "about" there then they 
should also be in your Report, can you check this please.



Ron Ferguson

_

*New Tutorial* Using the GIMP Mask
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
_









> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record
> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 06:50:56 -0600
>
> Ron,
>
> Thank you for helping me. Changing to short locations is my fault, for 
> some
> reason, sometimes things in the lower left of the screen I do not see. I
> checked the use short dates & it works perfectly.
>
> The abt vs cir has me stumped. I had the circa changed to about and about 
> to
> abt. I could not get, when I typed abt, to stop changing to cir on the
> report. Just now I changed about to about and circa to about and the 
> report
> still reads cir. I have the dates for these people, for example, as about
> 1815. Am I in the wrong place? I went to options, customise, prefixes in 
> the
> typed column for about and typed about I went to the display circa and 
> typed
> about. Then I clicked on save. I tried closing the program, when I opened
> the program it still has cir. If this person, Hugh Cochrane, is the main
> person it has about. If I move down to the son then Hugh changes to cir. I
> don't mean to be picky but the people I send this to understand about they
> do not understand cir. Perhaps I hang out with some low life but the circa
> seems about as pretentious as does the compiler information - produced by, 
> I
> would much rather have the reports read created or compiled by.
>
> While I am on my soap box, I have never been able to get anything I enter 
> in
> the comments field to print. I like to have Additions and corrections
> appreciated. I have to put this in the email field to get it to print. I
> have tried to use the comments field for years and cannot seem to get it 
> to
> show on the computer screen or print outs.
>
> Regards,
> Ann
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "ronald ferguson"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 6:00 AM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record
>
>
>
>
> Ann
>
> 1) Go to Options>Customise>Dates on the right change the display column to
> what you wish.
>
> 2) in Family Group, go to Report Options>Format and check the "use short
> loaction names" box
>
>
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> _
>
> *New Tutorial* Using the GIMP Mask
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> _
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyFamilyTree.com
>> Subject: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record
>> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 05:31:53 -0600
>>
>> I would like to print a FGR leaving off the USA and having aft changed to
>> after, bef to before and especially change cir to abo

Re: [LegacyUG] bug in newest update?

[Connie Sheets]

Dede,

Confirming the problem (which I've never seen before the 7.0.0.89 update; I 
have used the templates you mention with previous version 7 builds).  For the 
1900 census, I was able to enter data in several fields on Step 2, but it 
popped up when I started to type in the URL field.  On the Artifacts template 
it popped up with the first letter I typed in the first field.  I too am 
running XP on an HP Laptop, for what that may be worth.

GI'm beginning to get impatient with Legacy.  I've used, and loved, 
Legacy for years, since at least version 3, but my sources MUST work right.  
The subsequent citation issue STILL has not been addressed.  That RootsMagic4 
beta is starting to look better and better...

Connie


--- On Sun, 3/8/09, Dede Holden  wrote:

> > I believe there is a bug in some of the Sourcewriter
> templates in the
> newest update.  I've already submitted a bug report,
> but I wanted to
> save all of you the worry if this happens to you.
> 
> For some reason, when you are entering the specifics in
> Step 2 of the
> templates, you will get a "Runtime Error '5':
> Invalid procedure call
> or argument."  The two specific templates I've had
> a problem with are
> the Artifacts template and the 1900 census template.  When
> you click
> OK, Legacy closes.
> 
> I can reproduce the error, so I've submitted a bug
> report.  The Family
> record template worked fine, so I don't think it's
> a problem specific
> to my computer.  BTW, running Windows XP on an HP laptop.



  




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Re: [LegacyUG] bug in newest update?

[circe]

Very strange. I don't use the SourceWriter template, but tried to reproduce the 
bug by
entering sources for the U.S. 1900 census and Artifacts. Worked fine - got to 
Step 3 with
no problems.

I'm running Win XP on a clone.

Helen



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Re: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record

[Ann Parsons]

Ron,

I have to be away from the internet for awhile. I swear to buy a toothpick 
one must make a 200 mile round trip. I should be back late this afternoon.

It is very kind of you to help me with this problem, I appreciate it.

Ann
Alamogordo, New Mexico


- Original Message - 
From: "Ann Parsons" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record


> Ron,
>
> I closed the program as I had read on the LUG that sometimes a person 
> having problems were advised to try that. In the family view for Hugh & 
> Eliz they have always had about. It is when I do a FGR for their children 
> that the about changes to cir.
>
> In the family view for Hugh Cochrane his birth is about 1815. In the 
> reports, family group report he is about, his wife Eliza has about, his 
> children are about. I do not have parents for him or his wife.
>
> In the family view for his son John Cochrane, I have dates for him, his 
> wife & children. In the reports, family group report John's parents, Hugh 
> & Eliza now have cir.
>
> I tried deleting the birth data for Hugh & Eliz and saving, then 
> re-entering the about 1815 and about 1820 respectively. Still cir in the 
> FGR for his son John.
>
> I looked at the FGR preview for some of their other children, Hugh & Eliza 
> have cir.
>
> Before I would do the reset which is a pain I would just as soon take a 
> dose of salts. Perhaps I should just send a disclaimer along with the 
> report that the program I use will not print about for parents.
>
> Ann
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "ronald ferguson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 7:37 AM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record
>
>
>
> Ann,
>
> Re: Abt and Cir. The changes of both to "about" stick for me. 
> Ubfortunately the Dates does not have its own Reset button, otherwise I 
> would suggest using it! The Reset at the bottom will reset all your 
> settings which is a heck of a pain.
>
> Why did you close the program btw? When you make your changes have you had 
> a look at Family View, if the two have been changed to "about" there then 
> they should also be in your Report, can you check this please.
>
>
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> _
>
> *New Tutorial* Using the GIMP Mask
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> _
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> > From: aparsons2...@msn.com
> > To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record
> > Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 06:50:56 -0600
> >
> > Ron,
> >
> > Thank you for helping me. Changing to short locations is my fault, for 
> > some
> > reason, sometimes things in the lower left of the screen I do not see. I
> > checked the use short dates & it works perfectly.
> >
> > The abt vs cir has me stumped. I had the circa changed to about and 
> > about to
> > abt. I could not get, when I typed abt, to stop changing to cir on the
> > report. Just now I changed about to about and circa to about and the 
> > report
> > still reads cir. I have the dates for these people, for example, as 
> > about
> > 1815. Am I in the wrong place? I went to options, customise, prefixes in 
> > the
> > typed column for about and typed about I went to the display circa and 
> > typed
> > about. Then I clicked on save. I tried closing the program, when I 
> > opened
> > the program it still has cir. If this person, Hugh Cochrane, is the main
> > person it has about. If I move down to the son then Hugh changes to cir. 
> > I
> > don't mean to be picky but the people I send this to understand about 
> > they
> > do not understand cir. Perhaps I hang out with some low life but the 
> > circa
> > seems about as pretentious as does the compiler information - produced 
> > by, I
> > would much rather have the reports read created or compiled by.
> >
> > While I am on my soap box, I have never been able to get anything I 
> > enter in
> > the comments field to print. I like to have Additions and corrections
> > appreciated. I have to put this in the email field to get it to print. I
> > have tried to use the comments field for years and cannot seem to get it 
> > to
> > show on the computer screen or print outs.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Ann
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "ronald ferguson"
> > To:
> > Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 6:00 AM
> > Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ann
> >
> > 1) Go to Options>Customise>Dates on the right change the display column 
> > to
> > what you wish.
> >
> > 2) in Family Group, go to Report Options>Format and check the "use short
> > loaction names" box
> >
> >
> >
> > Ron Ferguson
> >
> > 

Re: [LegacyUG] bug in newest update?

[Evert van Dijken]

did you try to enter an url as well? Because that's where I got the error 5.
I get an error 5 in step 2 as well by entering a generic source.
Testers have confirmed this bug and it's entered in the bug-tracker.
Evert

2009/3/8  :
> Very strange. I don't use the SourceWriter template, but tried to reproduce 
> the bug by
> entering sources for the U.S. 1900 census and Artifacts. Worked fine - got to 
> Step 3 with
> no problems.
>
> I'm running Win XP on a clone.
>
> Helen
>
>
>
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RE: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record

[ronald ferguson]

Ann,
 
Let me get this right, Are you saying that in the Family View where you have a 
"Cir" this has now been changed to "About", but in the Family Group Report it 
is still showing as "About"?
 
If so try using 1) The reset button for the Family Group Report and if that 
fails then 2) delete the Family Group Report .usr file.



Ron Ferguson

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> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record
> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 08:10:16 -0600
>
> Ron,
>
> I closed the program as I had read on the LUG that sometimes a person having
> problems were advised to try that. In the family view for Hugh & Eliz they
> have always had about. It is when I do a FGR for their children that the
> about changes to cir.
>
> In the family view for Hugh Cochrane his birth is about 1815. In the
> reports, family group report he is about, his wife Eliza has about, his
> children are about. I do not have parents for him or his wife.
>
> In the family view for his son John Cochrane, I have dates for him, his wife
> & children. In the reports, family group report John's parents, Hugh & Eliza
> now have cir.
>
> I tried deleting the birth data for Hugh & Eliz and saving, then re-entering
> the about 1815 and about 1820 respectively. Still cir in the FGR for his son
> John.
>
> I looked at the FGR preview for some of their other children, Hugh & Eliza
> have cir.
>
> Before I would do the reset which is a pain I would just as soon take a dose
> of salts. Perhaps I should just send a disclaimer along with the report that
> the program I use will not print about for parents.
>
> Ann
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "ronald ferguson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 7:37 AM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record
>
>
>
> Ann,
>
> Re: Abt and Cir. The changes of both to "about" stick for me. Ubfortunately
> the Dates does not have its own Reset button, otherwise I would suggest
> using it! The Reset at the bottom will reset all your settings which is a
> heck of a pain.
>
> Why did you close the program btw? When you make your changes have you had a
> look at Family View, if the two have been changed to "about" there then they
> should also be in your Report, can you check this please.
>
>
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> _
>
> *New Tutorial* Using the GIMP Mask
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> _
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record
>> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 06:50:56 -0600
>>
>> Ron,
>>
>> Thank you for helping me. Changing to short locations is my fault, for
>> some
>> reason, sometimes things in the lower left of the screen I do not see. I
>> checked the use short dates & it works perfectly.
>>
>> The abt vs cir has me stumped. I had the circa changed to about and about
>> to
>> abt. I could not get, when I typed abt, to stop changing to cir on the
>> report. Just now I changed about to about and circa to about and the
>> report
>> still reads cir. I have the dates for these people, for example, as about
>> 1815. Am I in the wrong place? I went to options, customise, prefixes in
>> the
>> typed column for about and typed about I went to the display circa and
>> typed
>> about. Then I clicked on save. I tried closing the program, when I opened
>> the program it still has cir. If this person, Hugh Cochrane, is the main
>> person it has about. If I move down to the son then Hugh changes to cir. I
>> don't mean to be picky but the people I send this to understand about they
>> do not understand cir. Perhaps I hang out with some low life but the circa
>> seems about as pretentious as does the compiler information - produced by,
>> I
>> would much rather have the reports read created or compiled by.
>>
>> While I am on my soap box, I have never been able to get anything I enter
>> in
>> the comments field to print. I like to have Additions and corrections
>> appreciated. I have to put this in the email field to get it to print. I
>> have tried to use the comments field for years and cannot seem to get it
>> to
>> show on the computer screen or print outs.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ann
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "ronald ferguson"
>> To:

Re: [LegacyUG] bug in newest update?

[circe]

You didn't say in which line to enter the URL so I entered one in every line. 
Still worked
fine.

If you want to write to me personally with a blow-by-blow, line-by-line 
description of
what you did to get the error, I'll try it again. So far though, everything 
works fine.

Helen




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Re: [LegacyUG] bug in newest update?

[Evert van Dijken]

No need to try it again or confirm the bug, because it's allready
entered in the bug-tracker.
Evert

2009/3/8  :
> You didn't say in which line to enter the URL so I entered one in every line. 
> Still worked
> fine.
>
> If you want to write to me personally with a blow-by-blow, line-by-line 
> description of
> what you did to get the error, I'll try it again. So far though, everything 
> works fine.
>
> Helen
>
>
>
>
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[LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy

[Ward Walker]

Connie,

Have you ever seen any feedback from Millennia that they acknowledge any of 
the 'subsequent citation' bugs that we reported a few months ago (and 
thoroughly discussed on this list)? I haven't. No direct reponse to logging 
the bugs, and no e-mails from Support on this list about any of our 
discussions, as we sometimes see about other issues. I wonder how far down 
the queue these bugs are, compared to other issues.


Has anyone ever received an acknowledgement that a new bug report was 
received successfully and entered into the bug tracking system?


Would we have been wiser to e-mail our complaints to Support rather than to 
enter the bug reports using the Legacy Home tab?


I'm copying Support on this e-mail, in hopes of receiving a statement of 
policy on bug acknowledgements and priority tracking.


  Ward

- Original Message - 
From: "Connie Sheets" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] bug in newest update?




Dede,

Confirming the problem (which I've never seen before the 7.0.0.89 update; 
I have used the templates you mention with previous version 7 builds). 
For the 1900 census, I was able to enter data in several fields on Step 2, 
but it popped up when I started to type in the URL field.  On the 
Artifacts template it popped up with the first letter I typed in the first 
field.  I too am running XP on an HP Laptop, for what that may be worth.


GI'm beginning to get impatient with Legacy.  I've used, and 
loved, Legacy for years, since at least version 3, but my sources MUST 
work right.  The subsequent citation issue STILL has not been addressed. 
That RootsMagic4 beta is starting to look better and better...


Connie
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Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I have never seen this report, and I would ike to use it myself. Where is it 
found? I have found that sometimes (not always) I create the search list and 
choose the 1 of 3 columns I desire; then go to my report. It might carry 
through.
Rich in LA CA

--- On Sun, 3/8/09, Dede Holden  wrote:

> From: Dede Holden 
> Subject: [LegacyUG] missing sources
> To: "Legacy User Group" 
> Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 4:14 AM
> I need advice.
> 
> My next project is to add sources to all the people in my
> database who
> don't have ANY source.  Yes, I confess.  In the past  I
> added names
> and dates, but after converting to Legacy, I've tried
> to do a better
> job of sourcing as I add.  However, I still have quite a
> few
> (hundreds) who don't have any source.
> 
> I've looked at the Missing Sources report.  Here's
> my dilemma.  The
> report is sorted by surname, starting with all those women
> who don't
> have a last name.  Is there a way to sort by MRIN so that I
> could work
> on the whole family at one time, going down the list?
> 
> Is it better to assign one of the visible tag numbers so
> that I can
> see at a glance who needs work?
> 
> Has anyone else worked on adding missing sources?  What is
> the best
> systematic way to accomplish this task?
> 
> Thanks in advance for any advice.
> 
> Dede Holden
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Create a list by source detail

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Is this what you are looking for? Go to "Master Source List"; "Print". Choose 
"Only tagged sources", "Master sources and all citations to each one." "Include 
specific Events", "Include citation detail". 
Rich in LA CA

--- On Sat, 3/7/09, Frances  wrote:

> From: Frances 
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Create a list by source detail
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Saturday, March 7, 2009, 7:23 PM
> Is there any way to create a list by source detail, as
> opposed to Master source?
> For example. My master source is English Census Lancashire
> 1861. I have several records covering different streets and
> areas withing Lancashire in 1861, each with its own source
> detail. I want to print out a list by source detail. Can
> this be done?
> Regards
> Frances
> 
> 
> 
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RE: [LegacyUG] missing sources

[ronald ferguson]

Rich,
 
New to V7 were many new searches including Search>Find>Missing Sources


Ron Ferguson

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> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 09:47:40 -0700
> From: fourpa...@verizon.net
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>
>
> I have never seen this report, and I would ike to use it myself. Where is it 
> found? I have found that sometimes (not always) I create the search list and 
> choose the 1 of 3 columns I desire; then go to my report. It might carry 
> through.
> Rich in LA CA
>
> --- On Sun, 3/8/09, Dede Holden wrote:
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RE: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy

[M. Brenzel]

I submitted a bug through the Bug Submission Form and received a reply from
Brian after he confirmed that there was an issue.  Once it was confirmed, it
was entered into their problem tracking system.

Mary

-Original Message-
From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf
Of Ward Walker
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 12:45 PM
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Cc: supp...@legacyfamilytree.com
Subject: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy

Connie,

Have you ever seen any feedback from Millennia that they acknowledge any of 
the 'subsequent citation' bugs that we reported a few months ago (and 
thoroughly discussed on this list)? I haven't. No direct reponse to logging 
the bugs, and no e-mails from Support on this list about any of our 
discussions, as we sometimes see about other issues. I wonder how far down 
the queue these bugs are, compared to other issues.

Has anyone ever received an acknowledgement that a new bug report was 
received successfully and entered into the bug tracking system?

Would we have been wiser to e-mail our complaints to Support rather than to 
enter the bug reports using the Legacy Home tab?

I'm copying Support on this e-mail, in hopes of receiving a statement of 
policy on bug acknowledgements and priority tracking.

   Ward

- Original Message - 
From: "Connie Sheets" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] bug in newest update?


>
> Dede,
>
> Confirming the problem (which I've never seen before the 7.0.0.89 update; 
> I have used the templates you mention with previous version 7 builds). 
> For the 1900 census, I was able to enter data in several fields on Step 2,

> but it popped up when I started to type in the URL field.  On the 
> Artifacts template it popped up with the first letter I typed in the first

> field.  I too am running XP on an HP Laptop, for what that may be worth.
>
> GI'm beginning to get impatient with Legacy.  I've used, and 
> loved, Legacy for years, since at least version 3, but my sources MUST 
> work right.  The subsequent citation issue STILL has not been addressed. 
> That RootsMagic4 beta is starting to look better and better...
>
> Connie
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Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources

[CE WOOD]

Missing Sources is one of the tabs in Search.

Carolyn
  - Original Message - 
  From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES 
  To: 
LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 
  Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 9:47 AM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources



  I have never seen this report, and I would ike to use it myself. Where is it 
found? I have found that sometimes (not always) I create the search list and 
choose the 1 of 3 columns I desire; then go to my report. It might carry 
through.
  Rich in LA CA

  --- On Sun, 3/8/09, Dede Holden 
mailto:deanbuc...@gmail.com>> wrote:

  > From: Dede Holden mailto:deanbuc...@gmail.com>>
  > Subject: [LegacyUG] missing sources
  > To: "Legacy User Group" 
mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com>>
  > Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 4:14 AM
  > I need advice.
  > 
  > My next project is to add sources to all the people in my
  > database who
  > don't have ANY source.  Yes, I confess.  In the past  I
  > added names
  > and dates, but after converting to Legacy, I've tried
  > to do a better
  > job of sourcing as I add.  However, I still have quite a
  > few
  > (hundreds) who don't have any source.
  > 
  > I've looked at the Missing Sources report.  Here's
  > my dilemma.  The
  > report is sorted by surname, starting with all those women
  > who don't
  > have a last name.  Is there a way to sort by MRIN so that I
  > could work
  > on the whole family at one time, going down the list?
  > 
  > Is it better to assign one of the visible tag numbers so
  > that I can
  > see at a glance who needs work?
  > 
  > Has anyone else worked on adding missing sources?  What is
  > the best
  > systematic way to accomplish this task?
  > 
  > Thanks in advance for any advice.
  > 
  > Dede Holden
  > 
  > 
  > 
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  >
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Re: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy

[Connie Sheets]

Ward,

I had some correspondence with Customer Service a couple of months ago, but I 
believe it was specific to the full citations, rather than subsequent 
citations, always printing on FGS, Individual Reports, etc.  (I wasn't sure at 
the time exactly which problem was being discussed).  I was asked to send them 
copies of some .usr files, which I did.  That's the last I've heard.

By coincidence, I was reading through some old unread LUG posts yesterday, and 
came across the following:


--- On Tue, 1/6/09, Brian/Support  wrote:

> Lew,
> 
> When I tested this and reported the problem with merging
> basic sources into sourcewriter sources I found that the
> detail entries from the old style source were lost.
> 
> The Basic source details were not copied to the
> sourcewriter template fields. Initially when you look at the
> source in the source list the old details are shown but if
> you click on edit details you will find that those entries
> are missing from the sourcewriter details screen. If you
> then save instead of cancel the only entries that will
> remain are those hard coded into the template (such as the
> microfilm series number for census records).
> 
> The programmer elected to prevent merging of old and new
> style sources in response to that problem report.
> 
> Brian
> Customer Support

This is probably a related, if not the same basic problem, as we have 
discussed, but in another context.  That is, not only were details lost when 
merging old Basic sources into Sourcewriter, but details are lost when printing 
Subsequent Citations, especially if an override has been used. 

I will try to re-submit my issues this week, as clearly as I can, with 
references to the examples given by several of us on this list, (this time I 
will track more carefully what I send and when I send it).  

Sure would be nice if Legacy had a system for telling the submitter they have 
received, confirmed, and are prioritizing the problem.  (Though it seems to me 
having SourceWriter work properly would be high on Legacy's the priority list, 
especially given the competition they are about to encounter).

Ward Walker wrote:

> Connie,
> 
> Have you ever seen any feedback from Millennia that they
> acknowledge any of the 'subsequent citation' bugs
> that we reported a few months ago (and thoroughly discussed
> on this list)? I haven't. No direct reponse to logging
> the bugs, and no e-mails from Support on this list about any
> of our discussions, as we sometimes see about other issues.
> I wonder how far down the queue these bugs are, compared to
> other issues.
> 
> Has anyone ever received an acknowledgement that a new bug
> report was received successfully and entered into the bug
> tracking system?
> 
> Would we have been wiser to e-mail our complaints to
> Support rather than to enter the bug reports using the
> Legacy Home tab?
> 
> I'm copying Support on this e-mail, in hopes of
> receiving a statement of policy on bug acknowledgements and
> priority tracking.
> 
>   Ward
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Re: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Yes I have recieved them more than once. You may have missed this detail, that 
I remember. The first person to report the problem will recieve a 'thank you' 
for pointing it out, within the week, and when 'fixed' and added to next 
update, will generate a subsequent 'thank you' and note that it is in the next 
queue. But not the second or rest. The next step is not consistent, but I have 
seem a message to 'us all' that it has been queued, and is set in upcoming 
update. 
Rich in LA CA


--- On Sun, 3/8/09, Ward Walker  wrote:

> From: Ward Walker 
> Subject: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Cc: supp...@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 9:45 AM
> Connie,
> 
> Have you ever seen any feedback from Millennia that they
> acknowledge any of the 'subsequent citation' bugs
> that we reported a few months ago (and thoroughly discussed
> on this list)? I haven't. No direct reponse to logging
> the bugs, and no e-mails from Support on this list about any
> of our discussions, as we sometimes see about other issues.
> I wonder how far down the queue these bugs are, compared to
> other issues.
> 
> Has anyone ever received an acknowledgement that a new bug
> report was received successfully and entered into the bug
> tracking system?
> 
> Would we have been wiser to e-mail our complaints to
> Support rather than to enter the bug reports using the
> Legacy Home tab?
> 
> I'm copying Support on this e-mail, in hopes of
> receiving a statement of policy on bug acknowledgements and
> priority tracking.
> 
>   Ward
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Connie
> Sheets" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 10:21 AM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] bug in newest update?
> 
> 
> > 
> > Dede,
> > 
> > Confirming the problem (which I've never seen
> before the 7.0.0.89 update; I have used the templates you
> mention with previous version 7 builds). For the 1900
> census, I was able to enter data in several fields on Step
> 2, but it popped up when I started to type in the URL field.
>  On the Artifacts template it popped up with the first
> letter I typed in the first field.  I too am running XP on
> an HP Laptop, for what that may be worth.
> > 
> > GI'm beginning to get impatient with
> Legacy.  I've used, and loved, Legacy for years, since
> at least version 3, but my sources MUST work right.  The
> subsequent citation issue STILL has not been addressed. That
> RootsMagic4 beta is starting to look better and better...
> > 
> > Connie
> ... 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

We are still finding new stuff.
Rich in LA CA


--- On Sun, 3/8/09, CE WOOD  wrote:

> From: CE WOOD 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 10:20 AM
> Missing Sources is one of the tabs in Search.
> 
> Carolyn
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: RICHARD
> SCHULTHIES 
>   To:
> LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> 
>   Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 9:47 AM
>   Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources
> 
> 
> 
>   I have never seen this report, and I would ike to use it
> myself. Where is it found? I have found that sometimes (not
> always) I create the search list and choose the 1 of 3
> columns I desire; then go to my report. It might carry
> through.
>   Rich in LA CA
> 
>   --- On Sun, 3/8/09, Dede Holden
> mailto:deanbuc...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> 
>   > From: Dede Holden
> mailto:deanbuc...@gmail.com>>
>   > Subject: [LegacyUG] missing sources
>   > To: "Legacy User Group"
> mailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com>>
>   > Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 4:14 AM
>   > I need advice.
>   > 
>   > My next project is to add sources to all the people
> in my
>   > database who
>   > don't have ANY source.  Yes, I confess.  In the
> past  I
>   > added names
>   > and dates, but after converting to Legacy, I've
> tried
>   > to do a better
>   > job of sourcing as I add.  However, I still have
> quite a
>   > few
>   > (hundreds) who don't have any source.
>   > 
>   > I've looked at the Missing Sources report. 
> Here's
>   > my dilemma.  The
>   > report is sorted by surname, starting with all those
> women
>   > who don't
>   > have a last name.  Is there a way to sort by MRIN so
> that I
>   > could work
>   > on the whole family at one time, going down the
> list?
>   > 
>   > Is it better to assign one of the visible tag
> numbers so
>   > that I can
>   > see at a glance who needs work?
>   > 
>   > Has anyone else worked on adding missing sources? 
> What is
>   > the best
>   > systematic way to accomplish this task?
>   > 
>   > Thanks in advance for any advice.
>   > 
>   > Dede Holden
>   > 
>   > 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy

[Steve Voght]

That said, I've reported several bugs via the "Report a Bug"
interface, and never received a single acknowledgment or message that
anyone has even read them, let alone added them to the queue. Perhaps
that's because they were already reported, but since they're still
present in the latest build (and seemingly easy to fix since most of
them deal with typos or formatting issues), what am I to make of the
customer support response?

Something needs to be done to improve this side of the Legacy
interface -- either acknowledgment of *ALL* bug reports, or a public
list of known bugs to reduce redundant reports. The current system
leaves us frustrated and ends up with far too many rambling and often
fruitless threads on LUG.

-Steve

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 11:59 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
 wrote:
>
> Yes I have recieved them more than once. You may have missed this detail, 
> that I remember. The first person to report the problem will recieve a 'thank 
> you' for pointing it out, within the week, and when 'fixed' and added to next 
> update, will generate a subsequent 'thank you' and note that it is in the 
> next queue. But not the second or rest. The next step is not consistent, but 
> I have seem a message to 'us all' that it has been queued, and is set in 
> upcoming update.
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Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources

[Dede Holden]

So, back to my original question --

Is there a way to sort the Missing Sources report by MRIN?

That would help to work on one family at a time.

Thanks,
Dede

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 2:05 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
 wrote:
>
> We are still finding new stuff.

>> Missing Sources is one of the tabs in Search.
>>
>> Carolyn

>>
>>   I have never seen this report, and I would ike to use it
>> myself. Where is it found? I have found that sometimes (not
>> always) I create the search list and choose the 1 of 3
>> columns I desire; then go to my report. It might carry
>> through.
>>   Rich in LA CA



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Re: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy

[Pauline B. Cramer]

Steve Voght wrote:
"Something needs to be done to improve this side of the Legacy interface 
-- either acknowledgment of *ALL* bug reports, or a publiclist of known 
bugs to reduce redundant reports. The current system leaves us 
frustrated and ends up with far too many rambling and oftenfruitless 
threads on LUG."


I agree completely with what Steve said.



Steve Voght wrote:

That said, I've reported several bugs via the "Report a Bug"
interface, and never received a single acknowledgment or message that
anyone has even read them, let alone added them to the queue. Perhaps
that's because they were already reported, but since they're still
present in the latest build (and seemingly easy to fix since most of
them deal with typos or formatting issues), what am I to make of the
customer support response?

Something needs to be done to improve this side of the Legacy
interface -- either acknowledgment of *ALL* bug reports, or a public
list of known bugs to reduce redundant reports. The current system
leaves us frustrated and ends up with far too many rambling and often
fruitless threads on LUG.

-Steve

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 11:59 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
 wrote:
  

Yes I have recieved them more than once. You may have missed this detail, that 
I remember. The first person to report the problem will recieve a 'thank you' 
for pointing it out, within the week, and when 'fixed' and added to next 
update, will generate a subsequent 'thank you' and note that it is in the next 
queue. But not the second or rest. The next step is not consistent, but I have 
seem a message to 'us all' that it has been queued, and is set in upcoming 
update.
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Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources

[CE WOOD]

Your Search List is a Name List like the Index.  As in the Index, Click the #, 
Given or Last button at the top of the window, or click in the text box to the 
right of each button.

Carolyn

- Original Message - 
  From: Dede Holden 
  To: 
LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 
  Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 1:59 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources


  So, back to my original question --

  Is there a way to sort the Missing Sources report by MRIN?

  That would help to work on one family at a time.

  Thanks,
  Dede

  On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 2:05 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
  mailto:fourpa...@verizon.net>> wrote:
  >
  > We are still finding new stuff.

  >> Missing Sources is one of the tabs in Search.
  >>
  >> Carolyn

  >>
  >> I have never seen this report, and I would ike to use it
  >> myself. Where is it found? I have found that sometimes (not
  >> always) I create the search list and choose the 1 of 3
  >> columns I desire; then go to my report. It might carry
  >> through.
  >> Rich in LA CA



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[LegacyUG] New family search.org

[Ed maurer]

To Legacy and the List:
I have asked when legacy was going to be useable with the New.family search and 
I still do not get a answer as to the date.  I have a lot of work to do so I am 
starting to use another program
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Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources

[Dede Holden]

I'm going to guess that what I want is not available.  I want to sort
by MRIN, not RIN.  I have husbands and wives that are not even close
to each other in the RIN numbers, but the MRIN would put them
together.  The number option button sorts by RIN.

I guess I'll have to come up with Plan B for a systematic way to work
through those with no sources.

Thanks anyway,
Dede

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:29 PM, CE WOOD  wrote:
> Your Search List is a Name List like the Index.  As in the Index, Click the
> #, Given or Last button at the top of the window, or click in the text box
> to the right of each button.
>
> Carolyn
>
> - Original Message -
>
> From: Dede Holden
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 1:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources
> So, back to my original question --
>
> Is there a way to sort the Missing Sources report by MRIN?
>
> That would help to work on one family at a time.
>
> Thanks,
> Dede
>
> On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 2:05 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
>  wrote:
>>
>> We are still finding new stuff.
>
>>> Missing Sources is one of the tabs in Search.
>>>
>>> Carolyn
>
>>>
>>> I have never seen this report, and I would ike to use it
>>> myself. Where is it found? I have found that sometimes (not
>>> always) I create the search list and choose the 1 of 3
>>> columns I desire; then go to my report. It might carry
>>> through.
>>> Rich in LA CA



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Re: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record

[Ann Parsons]

Hello Ron,

Back from my trek to the nearest town. In the family view for Hugh it has 
about for him & his wife Eliza, also if one does previews their family group 
record. Thenwhen one goes to their son John and previews his family 
group record, John's parents (Hugh & Eliza) have now changed to cir.

Before writing this I looked at several other families that have a parent 
with an about birth year. These parents have about on their child's family 
group record.

Of the ones I looked at it is just this one family. I tried deleting Hugh & 
Eliza's birth year, and entering it again. Still cir. on their son's family 
group record.

Ann


- Original Message - 
From: "ronald ferguson" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 9:11 AM
Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record



Ann,

Let me get this right, Are you saying that in the Family View where you have 
a "Cir" this has now been changed to "About", but in the Family Group Report 
it is still showing as "About"?

If so try using 1) The reset button for the Family Group Report and if that 
fails then 2) delete the Family Group Report .usr file.



Ron Ferguson

_

*New Tutorial* Using the GIMP Mask
http://www.fergys.co.uk/
View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
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For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
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_









> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record
> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 08:10:16 -0600
>
> Ron,
>
> I closed the program as I had read on the LUG that sometimes a person 
> having
> problems were advised to try that. In the family view for Hugh & Eliz they
> have always had about. It is when I do a FGR for their children that the
> about changes to cir.
>
> In the family view for Hugh Cochrane his birth is about 1815. In the
> reports, family group report he is about, his wife Eliza has about, his
> children are about. I do not have parents for him or his wife.
>
> In the family view for his son John Cochrane, I have dates for him, his 
> wife
> & children. In the reports, family group report John's parents, Hugh & 
> Eliza
> now have cir.
>
> I tried deleting the birth data for Hugh & Eliz and saving, then 
> re-entering
> the about 1815 and about 1820 respectively. Still cir in the FGR for his 
> son
> John.
>
> I looked at the FGR preview for some of their other children, Hugh & Eliza
> have cir.
>
> Before I would do the reset which is a pain I would just as soon take a 
> dose
> of salts. Perhaps I should just send a disclaimer along with the report 
> that
> the program I use will not print about for parents.
>
> Ann
>
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "ronald ferguson"
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 7:37 AM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record
>
>
>
> Ann,
>
> Re: Abt and Cir. The changes of both to "about" stick for me. 
> Ubfortunately
> the Dates does not have its own Reset button, otherwise I would suggest
> using it! The Reset at the bottom will reset all your settings which is a
> heck of a pain.
>
> Why did you close the program btw? When you make your changes have you had 
> a
> look at Family View, if the two have been changed to "about" there then 
> they
> should also be in your Report, can you check this please.
>
>
>
> Ron Ferguson
>
> _
>
> *New Tutorial* Using the GIMP Mask
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/
> View the Grimshaw Family Tree at:
> http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/
> For The Fergusons of N.W. England See:
> http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/fergys/
> _
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record
>> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 06:50:56 -0600
>>
>> Ron,
>>
>> Thank you for helping me. Changing to short locations is my fault, for
>> some
>> reason, sometimes things in the lower left of the screen I do not see. I
>> checked the use short dates & it works perfectly.
>>
>> The abt vs cir has me stumped. I had the circa changed to about and about
>> to
>> abt. I could not get, when I typed abt, to stop changing to cir on the
>> report. Just now I changed about to about and circa to about and the
>> report
>> still reads cir. I have the dates for these people, for example, as about
>> 1815. Am I in the wrong place? I went to options, customise, prefixes in
>> the
>> typed column for about and typed about I went to the display circa and
>> typed
>> about. Then I clicked on save. I tried closing the program, when I opened
>> the program it still has cir. If this person, Hugh Cochrane, is the main
>> person it has

Re: [LegacyUG] New family search.org

[Mike Fry]

Ed maurer wrote:

To Legacy and the List:
I have asked when legacy was going to be useable with the New.family 
search and I still do not get a answer as to the date.  I have a lot of 
work to do so I am starting to use another program


Impatient! Wait until the LDS have decided what they're going to do 
before asking the users (Millennia) to comply.


--
Regards,
Mike Fry
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Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources

[JCTripp]

Dede,

I don't have the Missing Sources search in ver 6, so I am just imagining 
here, but could you tag those individuals from your search results and then 
use the Index view to customize columns to show minimal info but include 
tag # you selected from the Missing search and spouse MRIN, and parent's 
MRIN etc.
If you don't get too greedy, you can narrow column widths to see all in one 
screen width. Of course, you'll have to use page down. When you find an 
individual with both tag & MRIN number, select Family View, add your 
sources, and untag that individual.
Please note that I am replying with this convoluted work around because 
although I have tagged individuals, I haven't read about or tagged 
marriages.
Seems you should be able to tag all marriages with any individual that has 
the tag # given by your initial Missing sources search and use that list.
Regards, Jane Tripp

- Original Message - 
From: Dede Holden
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources


I'm going to guess that what I want is not available.  I want to sort by 
MRIN, not RIN.  I have husbands and wives that are not even close
to each other in the RIN numbers, but the MRIN would put them together. 
The number option button sorts by RIN.

I guess I'll have to come up with Plan B for a systematic way to work 
through those with no sources.

Thanks anyway,
Dede





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[LegacyUG] RE: ProMedia Manager

[Mark Lang]

Momalot66,

Both ProMedia Manager Suite and Photo Collector were both rebadged under the
single title of Heritage Collector Suite which I have extensively documented
in Section 9 of my book The Legacy Family available from the Legacy Family
Tree Store. More info is available at http://tinyurl.com/d47ow2


Kind Regards,
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> Behalf Of momalo...@aol.com
> Sent: Sunday, 8 March 2009 9:21 PM
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> Subject: [LegacyUG] ProMedia Manager
> 
> Has anyone had experience with the ProMedia  Manager mentioned on the
> Pictures CD?  It sounds neat, but I cannot find it  on the Legacy
> Homepage.  And by
> the way, we have an update:  Legacy  Deluxe 7.0.0.89!






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Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources

[CE WOOD]

True, but going to the Family View of one spouse shows you the other.

Carolyn
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dede Holden 
  To: 
LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
 
  Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 2:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources


  I'm going to guess that what I want is not available.  I want to sort
  by MRIN, not RIN.  I have husbands and wives that are not even close
  to each other in the RIN numbers, but the MRIN would put them
  together.  The number option button sorts by RIN.

  I guess I'll have to come up with Plan B for a systematic way to work
  through those with no sources.

  Thanks anyway,
  Dede

  On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 4:29 PM, CE WOOD 
mailto:wood...@msn.com>> wrote:
  > Your Search List is a Name List like the Index. As in the Index, Click the
  > #, Given or Last button at the top of the window, or click in the text box
  > to the right of each button.
  >
  > Carolyn
  >
  > - Original Message -
  >
  > From: Dede Holden
  > To: 
LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  > Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 1:59 PM
  > Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources
  > So, back to my original question --
  >
  > Is there a way to sort the Missing Sources report by MRIN?
  >
  > That would help to work on one family at a time.
  >
  > Thanks,
  > Dede
  >
  > On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 2:05 PM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
  > mailto:fourpa...@verizon.net>> wrote:
  >>
  >> We are still finding new stuff.
  >
  >>> Missing Sources is one of the tabs in Search.
  >>>
  >>> Carolyn
  >
  >>>
  >>> I have never seen this report, and I would ike to use it
  >>> myself. Where is it found? I have found that sometimes (not
  >>> always) I create the search list and choose the 1 of 3
  >>> columns I desire; then go to my report. It might carry
  >>> through.
  >>> Rich in LA CA



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RE: [LegacyUG] New family search.org

[Dave Johnson]

I attended a genealogy conference yesterday in Bountiful, Utah.  While
there, I spoke with Geoff Rasmussen and the staff about this issue.  They
reported that they expect to be fully certified with new.familysearch.com
within the next month.

 

We'll see, but that is the latest news I've heard.

 

Dave

 

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Subject: [LegacyUG] New family search.org

 

To Legacy and the List:

I have asked when legacy was going to be useable with the New.family search
and I still do not get a answer as to the date.  I have a lot of work to do
so I am starting to use another program

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RE: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record

[ronald ferguson]

Ann,
 
Hoped you enjoyed your trip,
 
I take you are referring to the two boxes below either the husband or wife, 
where it gives the parents' names eg. Edward Rogers (Abt 1843 - Cir 1890). If 
so, I believe that to be fixed, and if so I would not wish for it to be 
changed. I suspect that it is the same string as used in webpages, and it would 
be too large for the page/boxes used in the Pedigree pages. It may also cause 
problems elsewhere.
 
If that is not where the problem is please come back to me.


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> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record
> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 16:05:14 -0600
>
> Hello Ron,
>
> Back from my trek to the nearest town. In the family view for Hugh it has
> about for him & his wife Eliza, also if one does previews their family group
> record. Thenwhen one goes to their son John and previews his family
> group record, John's parents (Hugh & Eliza) have now changed to cir.
>
> Before writing this I looked at several other families that have a parent
> with an about birth year. These parents have about on their child's family
> group record.
>
> Of the ones I looked at it is just this one family. I tried deleting Hugh &
> Eliza's birth year, and entering it again. Still cir. on their son's family
> group record.
>
> Ann
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "ronald ferguson" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 9:11 AM
> Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record
>
>
>
> Ann,
>
> Let me get this right, Are you saying that in the Family View where you have
> a "Cir" this has now been changed to "About", but in the Family Group Report
> it is still showing as "About"?
>
> If so try using 1) The reset button for the Family Group Report and if that
> fails then 2) delete the Family Group Report .usr file.
>
>
>
> Ron Ferguson
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
>> From: aparsons2...@msn.com
>> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
>> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record
>> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 08:10:16 -0600
>>
>> Ron,
>>
>> I closed the program as I had read on the LUG that sometimes a person
>> having
>> problems were advised to try that. In the family view for Hugh & Eliz they
>> have always had about. It is when I do a FGR for their children that the
>> about changes to cir.
>>
>> In the family view for Hugh Cochrane his birth is about 1815. In the
>> reports, family group report he is about, his wife Eliza has about, his
>> children are about. I do not have parents for him or his wife.
>>
>> In the family view for his son John Cochrane, I have dates for him, his
>> wife
>> & children. In the reports, family group report John's parents, Hugh &
>> Eliza
>> now have cir.
>>
>> I tried deleting the birth data for Hugh & Eliz and saving, then
>> re-entering
>> the about 1815 and about 1820 respectively. Still cir in the FGR for his
>> son
>> John.
>>
>> I looked at the FGR preview for some of their other children, Hugh & Eliza
>> have cir.
>>
>> Before I would do the reset which is a pain I would just as soon take a
>> dose
>> of salts. Perhaps I should just send a disclaimer along with the report
>> that
>> the program I use will not print about for parents.
>>
>> Ann
>>
>>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Obituaries, Newspapers, File ID

[David E. Damouth]

At 01:34 PM 3/7/2009, Frances wrote:
>I am trying to  reduce my paper files. I was thinking about tossing out those 
>things that I have transcribed e.g. Obituaries, newspaper articles and census 
>recordings. ie those things that are easily accessible these days (but not 
>birth, marriage and death certs). Any thoughts on this.

I see no reason to save *any* paper documents, unless you are the custodian of 
a one-of-a-kind public archive.  On the rare occasions when you need the paper 
in the future, you can print another copy. (Those few contemporary documents 
needed for legal purposes are an exception, of course).

Transcriptions are fine for me *if* the actual form of the original doesn't 
convey any information.  Transcriptions are important because they are computer 
searchable.  

But in many cases, the form matters too - handwriting where the transcription 
accuracy is uncertain,  signatures vs a witnessed "X", marginal notations in a 
different handwriting, etc.  For such documents, I scan the original in grey 
scale (and color if appropriate) at sufficient resolution to encode all the 
visible information, and then save the scanned image as well as the 
transcription.   The transcription should contain a reference to the scanned 
image.  Computer hard disks now have so much capacity and are so cheap that 
there's no longer any reason to compromise on resolution.  (a one terrabyte 
hard drive is now under $100.  That's a million megabytes!)  For this reason, 
it's also easy and cheap to keep multiple copies of everything on multiple 
disks, removing any concern about losing the data when disks fail.  Archival 
copies on DVD's provide yet another redundant level of safety.

Another factor is that for the old, faded, documents we often see, a good  
grey-scale scanned image can be enhanced to be far more readable than the 
original.  In such cases, I save the  raw scanned image as well as the enhanced 
image, because I might someday want to use a different type of enhancement.  

For my own purposes, copies of documents that are available from a large 
commercial database such as ancestry.com need not be saved locally.   These 
databases are reliably backed up, and sufficiently valuable so that in the 
unlikely event that ancestry.com abruptly went bankrupt and shut down its 
websites, some other company would arrange to rescue the data. 

Electronic images or transcriptions of documents stored only on small private 
websites can *not* be assumed to be permanently available.  These sites can 
disappear overnight and never be seen again.  I will keep local copies of such 
documents in my own computer files.


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Re: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy

[Jackie King]

Steve -

Just curious but are there any genealogy companies that have a public 
"bug" list? I know a couple that have lists like this or blogs. I guess 
I have just never seen a public bug list.


Jackie

Steve Voght wrote:

That said, I've reported several bugs via the "Report a Bug"
interface, and never received a single acknowledgment or message that
anyone has even read them, let alone added them to the queue. Perhaps
that's because they were already reported, but since they're still
present in the latest build (and seemingly easy to fix since most of
them deal with typos or formatting issues), what am I to make of the
customer support response?

Something needs to be done to improve this side of the Legacy
interface -- either acknowledgment of *ALL* bug reports, or a public
list of known bugs to reduce redundant reports. The current system
leaves us frustrated and ends up with far too many rambling and often
fruitless threads on LUG.

-Steve

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 11:59 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
 wrote:
  

Yes I have recieved them more than once. You may have missed this detail, that 
I remember. The first person to report the problem will recieve a 'thank you' 
for pointing it out, within the week, and when 'fixed' and added to next 
update, will generate a subsequent 'thank you' and note that it is in the next 
queue. But not the second or rest. The next step is not consistent, but I have 
seem a message to 'us all' that it has been queued, and is set in upcoming 
update.
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RE: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy

[ronald ferguson]

Jackie,
 
I do not know of any company who is willing to tell their competitors 
where/what their problems are.
 
In the context of software I only know of Open Source which allows this. Legacy 
is better than most as it at least allows open discussion on this list.



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> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 20:01:03 -0500
> From: jkin...@gmail.com
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy
>
> Steve -
>
> Just curious but are there any genealogy companies that have a public
> "bug" list? I know a couple that have lists like this or blogs. I guess
> I have just never seen a public bug list.
>
> Jackie
>
> Steve Voght wrote:
>> That said, I've reported several bugs via the "Report a Bug"
>> interface, and never received a single acknowledgment or message that
>> anyone has even read them, let alone added them to the queue. Perhaps
>> that's because they were already reported, but since they're still
>> present in the latest build (and seemingly easy to fix since most of
>> them deal with typos or formatting issues), what am I to make of the
>> customer support response?
>>
>> Something needs to be done to improve this side of the Legacy
>> interface -- either acknowledgment of *ALL* bug reports, or a public
>> list of known bugs to reduce redundant reports. The current system
>> leaves us frustrated and ends up with far too many rambling and often
>> fruitless threads on LUG.
>>
>> -Steve
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 11:59 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yes I have recieved them more than once. You may have missed this detail, 
>>> that I remember. The first person to report the problem will recieve a 
>>> 'thank you' for pointing it out, within the week, and when 'fixed' and 
>>> added to next update, will generate a subsequent 'thank you' and note that 
>>> it is in the next queue. But not the second or rest. The next step is not 
>>> consistent, but I have seem a message to 'us all' that it has been queued, 
>>> and is set in upcoming update.
>>> Rich in LA CA
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Re: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy

[Steve Voght]

Adobe is actually fairly good about posting what they call the "known
limitations" of their software, and as Ron mentions virtually all
open-source projects have outstanding trackers and databases with test
methodology to confirm fixes. Obviously if one commercial company is
listing their bugs and the others aren't, it might turn off some users
to purchasing that software, but consider the poor reviews we
occasionally see for software that doesn't mention that some of its
features are buggy, or simply "aren't ready yet". All software has
bugs, but acknowledging them and making it clear that they're being
worked on would actually encourage me to consider a program over some
competitor's software where everyone is just griping in the forums
about how buggy it is, with no cohesive response from the company.
Some acknowledgment about bugs and truth about where things stand
(e.g. the fate of the Source Conversion Tool) would go a long way to
alleviate current user concerns and encourage new customers to
purchase the software.

-Steve

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 6:18 PM, ronald ferguson  wrote:
>
> Jackie,
>
> I do not know of any company who is willing to tell their competitors 
> where/what their problems are.
>
> In the context of software I only know of Open Source which allows this. 
> Legacy is better than most as it at least allows open discussion on this list.
>
>
>
> Ron Ferguson



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Re: [LegacyUG] New family search.org

[Carl Queen]

If you go to the New family search web site you will get an explanation as
to what is going on. First it is only going to be available to LDS church
members. Later it will be released to the rest of the world as I take it
from what I have heard and seen in press release.

Carl

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Ed maurer  wrote:

>  To Legacy and the List:
> I have asked when legacy was going to be useable with the New.family search
> and I still do not get a answer as to the date.  I have a lot of work to do
> so I am starting to use another program
> Ed in Mountlake Terrace
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Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources

[Judy Wardlaw]

Dede
If you Search for individuals without a source under missing sources.
Tag these with an unused tag.
Go to File Export> Legacy file (make sure you keep same RINs) Give this a 
name.
When you open this new file Click on Marriage List (if it is on your 
toolbar) or View> Marriage List.

Then click on MRIN at top and it will sort in numerical order.
Judy

Dede wrote


I've looked at the Missing Sources report.  Here's my dilemma.  The
report is sorted by surname, starting with all those women who don't
have a last name.  Is there a way to sort by MRIN so that I could work
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Re: [LegacyUG] New family search.org

[Ed maurer]

Dave:
Thanks, We here in the state of Washington are using New.family search
Ed
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dave Johnson 
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com 
  Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 4:02 PM
  Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] New family search.org


  I attended a genealogy conference yesterday in Bountiful, Utah.  While there, 
I spoke with Geoff Rasmussen and the staff about this issue.  They reported 
that they expect to be fully certified with new.familysearch.com within the 
next month.

   

  We'll see, but that is the latest news I've heard.

   

  Dave

   

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Of Ed maurer
  Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 3:48 PM
  To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
  Subject: [LegacyUG] New family search.org

   

  To Legacy and the List:

  I have asked when legacy was going to be useable with the New.family search 
and I still do not get a answer as to the date.  I have a lot of work to do so 
I am starting to use another program

  Ed in Mountlake Terrace

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[LegacyUG] How do I source a "Family Tree" found on Ancestry.com

[v pedersen]

I found what Ancestry.com calls a "Family Tree" on their website.  It isn't 
really a family tree but a short list of related people.  


I looked in the archives and see that many people suggest putting Ancestry.com 
as a repository and the collections found on Ancestry (such as WWI Draft 
Registrations, etc) as the source.  

But what about something less straight forward, like the "family tree" I found 
on Ancestry?  

How would I source this?  No author is listed, nor contact information, it is 
simply a short list of related people under the title  "Smith Family Tree".  


In the "Add a New Source", Source Writer's family tree and family group sheet 
options do not offer me a choice of medium other than "Online Images" and 
"Privately Held".  Since the list is not really what would be considered an 
online image (such as a census page image would be) and the list is not 
privately held, how would I source this list of related persons that Ancestry 
calls a "family tree"?  

Any ideas?  


Vicki








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Re: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I may have said it wrong. I didn't mention the auto-reply that says thank you, 
and we are looking at it. Because in the past, I saved all of my postings 
to/from techincal, and found that all were eventually fixed, or commented on at 
least in the negative. The best filing, one that chered me up, was a big change 
in L5, which from my reccomendation was added in verbatum a year or so later. 
About others of my real old ones, I was contacted in the last week, for 
clarifications. Does not mean a positive final answer, but they stated that 
they were reorganizing and revamping the monitoring sytem. What that MEANS is 
anyone's guess. But since last year, when fix dates were offered, and then 
unable to be met, and the tar and feathering they got because of it, means they 
are not going to estimate any more.
Rich in LA CA


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> From: Steve Voght 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 12:11 PM
> That said, I've reported several bugs via the
> "Report a Bug"
> interface, and never received a single acknowledgment or
> message that
> anyone has even read them, let alone added them to the
> queue. Perhaps
> that's because they were already reported, but since
> they're still
> present in the latest build (and seemingly easy to fix
> since most of
> them deal with typos or formatting issues), what am I to
> make of the
> customer support response?
> 
> Something needs to be done to improve this side of the
> Legacy
> interface -- either acknowledgment of *ALL* bug reports, or
> a public
> list of known bugs to reduce redundant reports. The current
> system
> leaves us frustrated and ends up with far too many rambling
> and often
> fruitless threads on LUG.
> 
> -Steve
> 
> On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 11:59 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
>  wrote:
> >
> > Yes I have recieved them more than once. You may have
> missed this detail, that I remember. The first person to
> report the problem will recieve a 'thank you' for
> pointing it out, within the week, and when 'fixed'
> and added to next update, will generate a subsequent
> 'thank you' and note that it is in the next queue.
> But not the second or rest. The next step is not consistent,
> but I have seem a message to 'us all' that it has
> been queued, and is set in upcoming update.
> > Rich in LA CA
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

I haven't tried it, but have you considered setting up a User ID system. You 
could use Jnsn001-Jnsn999, Smth001... Then they will sort in the  individual 
index, and reports can only UID, or mixed with RIN. Good luck, 
Rich in LA CA


--- On Sun, 3/8/09, JCTripp  wrote:

> From: JCTripp 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 3:46 PM
> Dede,
> 
> I don't have the Missing Sources search in ver 6, so I
> am just imagining 
> here, but could you tag those individuals from your search
> results and then 
> use the Index view to customize columns to show minimal
> info but include 
> tag # you selected from the Missing search and spouse MRIN,
> and parent's 
> MRIN etc.
> If you don't get too greedy, you can narrow column
> widths to see all in one 
> screen width. Of course, you'll have to use page down.
> When you find an 
> individual with both tag & MRIN number, select Family
> View, add your 
> sources, and untag that individual.
> Please note that I am replying with this convoluted work
> around because 
> although I have tagged individuals, I haven't read
> about or tagged 
> marriages.
> Seems you should be able to tag all marriages with any
> individual that has 
> the tag # given by your initial Missing sources search and
> use that list.
> Regards, Jane Tripp
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: Dede Holden
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2009 4:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources
> 
> 
> I'm going to guess that what I want is not available. 
> I want to sort by 
> MRIN, not RIN.  I have husbands and wives that are not even
> close
> to each other in the RIN numbers, but the MRIN would put
> them together. 
> The number option button sorts by RIN.
> 
> I guess I'll have to come up with Plan B for a
> systematic way to work 
> through those with no sources.
> 
> Thanks anyway,
> Dede
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

At least Millenium tries. I still have not got my answer from MS about changes 
in Windows 95. (I know).
Rich in LA CA

--- On Sun, 3/8/09, Jackie King  wrote:

> From: Jackie King 
> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy
> To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
> Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 6:01 PM
> Steve -
> 
> Just curious but are there any genealogy companies that
> have a public "bug" list? I know a couple that
> have lists like this or blogs. I guess I have just never
> seen a public bug list.
> 
> Jackie
> 
> Steve Voght wrote:
> > That said, I've reported several bugs via the
> "Report a Bug"
> > interface, and never received a single acknowledgment
> or message that
> > anyone has even read them, let alone added them to the
> queue. Perhaps
> > that's because they were already reported, but
> since they're still
> > present in the latest build (and seemingly easy to fix
> since most of
> > them deal with typos or formatting issues), what am I
> to make of the
> > customer support response?
> > 
> > Something needs to be done to improve this side of the
> Legacy
> > interface -- either acknowledgment of *ALL* bug
> reports, or a public
> > list of known bugs to reduce redundant reports. The
> current system
> > leaves us frustrated and ends up with far too many
> rambling and often
> > fruitless threads on LUG.
> > 
> > -Steve
> > 
> > On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 11:59 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
> >  wrote:
> >   
> >> Yes I have recieved them more than once. You may
> have missed this detail, that I remember. The first person
> to report the problem will recieve a 'thank you' for
> pointing it out, within the week, and when 'fixed'
> and added to next update, will generate a subsequent
> 'thank you' and note that it is in the next queue.
> But not the second or rest. The next step is not consistent,
> but I have seem a message to 'us all' that it has
> been queued, and is set in upcoming update.
> >> Rich in LA CA
> >> 
> > 
> >   
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] How do I source a "Family Tree" found on Ancestry.com

[JLB]

I don't use the Source Writer myself.  It's just another thing to get in 
sync with.  Right now, it's easier not to.  If there's any kind of 
notation at all on the tree that you found, I'd put that in.  I have 
some similar 'unknowns' and I put them under a general category.  For 
instance, Ancestry World Tree Project: unknown.  If there's no 
information given, what can you say?

-
JL
JLog - simple computer technology for genealogists
http://www.jgen.ws/jlog


v pedersen wrote:
I found what Ancestry.com calls a "Family Tree" on their website.  It 
isn't really a family tree but a short list of related people. 



I looked in the archives and see that many people suggest putting 
Ancestry.com as a repository and the collections found on Ancestry 
(such as WWI Draft Registrations, etc) as the source. 

But what about something less straight forward, like the "family tree" 
I found on Ancestry? 

How would I source this?  No author is listed, nor contact 
information, it is simply a short list of related people under the 
title  "Smith Family Tree". 



In the "Add a New Source", Source Writer's family tree and family 
group sheet options do not offer me a choice of medium other than 
"Online Images" and "Privately Held".  Since the list is not really 
what would be considered an online image (such as a census page image 
would be) and the list is not privately held, how would I source this 
list of related persons that Ancestry calls a "family tree"? 

Any ideas? 



Vicki


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Re: [LegacyUG] Create a list by source detail - addendum

[Frances]

Thank you Connie, your second suggestion worked.
regards
Frances

- Original Message - 
From: "Connie Sheets" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 3:04 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Create a list by source detail - addendum




Actually, now that I think about it longer, you may want to set the 
Primary Condition as Individual - Master Source - contains Lancashire 
1861, then add a second condition as I described.



--- On Sun, 3/8/09, Connie Sheets  wrote:


Frances  wrote:

> > Is there any way to create a list by source
detail, as
> opposed to Master source?
> For example. My master source is English Census
Lancashire
> 1861. I have several records covering different
streets and
> areas within Lancashire in 1861, each with its own
source
> detail. I want to print out a list by source detail.
Can
> this be done?


Try Search > Detailed Search with the Primary Condition
set as Individual, Source-Citation, contains, and enter the
name of street or area.  Then Create List > Print.  You
will have to search and print a separate list for each
street name/area, but at least you should be able to pull
out the data.

While I am more of a splitter and my work is almost 100%
USA, (for this very reason; I have a master source for each
township or enumeration district in each census year), I did
have a roughly equivalent situation that this procedure was
able to pull up for me.  Let us know if it works for you.

Connie









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Re: [LegacyUG] How do I source a "Family Tree" found on Ancestry.com

[RICHARD SCHULTHIES]

Since I use Ancestry.com as the repository of the record creator, and in the 
Source fields use both names, I would list it as an authorless document, the 
same way I treat Newspaper clippings with no date or paper name. But of the 
about 20 I had at one time, I mhave located 18 of them.
Rich in LA CA


--- On Sun, 3/8/09, v pedersen  wrote:

> From: v pedersen 
> Subject: [LegacyUG] How do I source a "Family Tree" found on Ancestry.com
> To: "Legacy Email List" 
> Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 10:14 PM
> I found what Ancestry.com calls a "Family Tree" on
> their website.  It isn't really a family tree but a
> short list of related people.  
> 
> 
> I looked in the archives and see that many people suggest
> putting Ancestry.com as a repository and the collections
> found on Ancestry (such as WWI Draft Registrations, etc) as
> the source.  
> 
> But what about something less straight forward, like the
> "family tree" I found on Ancestry?  
> 
> How would I source this?  No author is listed, nor contact
> information, it is simply a short list of related people
> under the title  "Smith Family Tree".  
> 
> 
> In the "Add a New Source", Source Writer's
> family tree and family group sheet options do not offer me a
> choice of medium other than "Online Images" and
> "Privately Held".  Since the list is not really
> what would be considered an online image (such as a census
> page image would be) and the list is not privately held, how
> would I source this list of related persons that Ancestry
> calls a "family tree"?  
> 
> Any ideas?  
> 
> 
> Vicki
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy

[Jackie King]

Actually one of the reasons I chose to move to Legacy when it became 
obvious that the program I had formerly used was no longer going to be 
supported by the company that bought it,  was the responsiveness I did 
see from Legacy.


Very few of the other programs that are out there actually have staffers 
answering their lists. More are trying it now, but I don't think they 
have been nearly as successful as the interaction I have seen here, even 
with the delays we saw in bringing out Legacy 7.


In a perfect world, yes, we would all get individual answers and know 
exactly in which order bugs and fixes are being worked on. It's not a 
perfect world.


And Richard - your response gives me hope. I still have a couple of 
comments about DOS that M$ must be working on. (I so miss DOS - LOL)


Jackie

RICHARD SCHULTHIES wrote:

At least Millenium tries. I still have not got my answer from MS about changes 
in Windows 95. (I know).
Rich in LA CA

--- On Sun, 3/8/09, Jackie King  wrote:

  

From: Jackie King 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Sunday, March 8, 2009, 6:01 PM
Steve -

Just curious but are there any genealogy companies that
have a public "bug" list? I know a couple that
have lists like this or blogs. I guess I have just never
seen a public bug list.

Jackie

Steve Voght wrote:


That said, I've reported several bugs via the
  

"Report a Bug"


interface, and never received a single acknowledgment
  

or message that


anyone has even read them, let alone added them to the
  

queue. Perhaps


that's because they were already reported, but
  

since they're still


present in the latest build (and seemingly easy to fix
  

since most of


them deal with typos or formatting issues), what am I
  

to make of the


customer support response?

Something needs to be done to improve this side of the
  

Legacy


interface -- either acknowledgment of *ALL* bug
  

reports, or a public


list of known bugs to reduce redundant reports. The
  

current system


leaves us frustrated and ends up with far too many
  

rambling and often


fruitless threads on LUG.

-Steve

On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 11:59 AM, RICHARD SCHULTHIES
 wrote:
  
  

Yes I have recieved them more than once. You may


have missed this detail, that I remember. The first person
to report the problem will recieve a 'thank you' for
pointing it out, within the week, and when 'fixed'
and added to next update, will generate a subsequent
'thank you' and note that it is in the next queue.
But not the second or rest. The next step is not consistent,
but I have seem a message to 'us all' that it has
been queued, and is set in upcoming update.


Rich in LA CA


  
  


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Re: [LegacyUG] Create a list by source detail

[Frances]

Thanks Richard...I think Connie's suggestion worked fine.
Cheers
Frances
- Original Message - 
From: "RICHARD SCHULTHIES" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 6:09 AM
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Create a list by source detail




Is this what you are looking for? Go to "Master Source List"; "Print". 
Choose "Only tagged sources", "Master sources and all citations to each 
one." "Include specific Events", "Include citation detail".

Rich in LA CA

--- On Sat, 3/7/09, Frances  wrote:


From: Frances 
Subject: [LegacyUG] Create a list by source detail
To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com
Date: Saturday, March 7, 2009, 7:23 PM
Is there any way to create a list by source detail, as
opposed to Master source?
For example. My master source is English Census Lancashire
1861. I have several records covering different streets and
areas withing Lancashire in 1861, each with its own source
detail. I want to print out a list by source detail. Can
this be done?
Regards
Frances




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