Re: SUSE s390 - Zebra installation problems

2002-11-12 Thread Michael.Megson
Mark,  I also thought that it was part of the distribution, it is on my
desktop but not
on the Enterprise Server 7. I have been looking for a s390x level zebra from
SuSE but as yet
been unable to find one.  Anybody any idea's ??
Mick Megson

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From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@;VM.MARIST.EDU]On Behalf Of
Post, Mark K
Sent: 12 November 2002 17:20
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SUSE s390 - Zebra installation problems


Michael,

Since zebra comes on the SuSE distribution, I'm wondering why you're trying
to build it from source?

It sounds like the version of zebra you're compiling has an out-of-date
config.guess and/or config.sub file in it.  That would be why it doesn't
understand "s390x-unknown-linux-gnu" as a valid system type.  You could try
copying those files from /usr/share/libtool into where ever you find them in
the zebra source tree.

I wasn't able to find either RTM_ADD or RTM_DELETE on my system.  I have a
bunch of RTM_somethings in /usr/src/linux/include/linux/rtnetlink.h, but not
those.

Mark Post

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Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SUSE s390 - Zebra installation problems


Hi,  I have been trying to install Zebra on a z/VM-Linux 390 virtual machine
and
have a problem with the make process.

Everything appears to go well until .
rt_socket.c: In function `kernel_rtm_ipv4':
rt_socket.c:100: `RTM_ADD' undeclared (first use in this function)
rt_socket.c:100: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
rt_socket.c:100: for each function it appears in.)
rt_socket.c:105: `RTM_DELETE' undeclared (first use in this function)
rt_socket.c: In function `kernel_add_ipv4':
rt_socket.c:183: `RTM_ADD' undeclared (first use in this function)
rt_socket.c: In function `kernel_delete_ipv4':
rt_socket.c:189: `RTM_DELETE' undeclared (first use in this function)
rt_socket.c: In function `kernel_rtm_ipv6_multipath':
rt_socket.c:317: `RTM_ADD' undeclared (first use in this function)
rt_socket.c:322: `RTM_DELETE' undeclared (first use in this function)
rt_socket.c: In function `kernel_add_ipv6':
rt_socket.c:417: `RTM_ADD' undeclared (first use in this function)
rt_socket.c: In function `kernel_delete_ipv6':
rt_socket.c:423: `RTM_DELETE' undeclared (first use in this function)
rt_socket.c: In function `kernel_delete_ipv6_old':
rt_socket.c:431: `RTM_DELETE' undeclared (first use in this function)
make[2]: *** [rt_socket.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/packages/BUILD/zebra-0.92a/zebra'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/packages/BUILD/zebra-0.92a'
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.39744 (%build)

I looked earlier in the process and found
zebra configuration
---
zebra version   : 0.92a
host operationg system  :
source code location: .
compiler: gcc
compiler flags  : -g -O2 -Wall
directory for pid files : /var/run

+ make
make  all-recursive
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/packages/BUILD/zebra-0.92a'
Making all in lib
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/packages/BUILD/zebra-0.92a/lib'
echo '' >version.c
echo 'char *host_name = "s390x-unknown-linux-gnu";' >>version.c
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DSYSCONFDIR=\"/etc/\" -I.. -I.. -I../lib-g -O2 -Wal
l -c version.c

and even earlier
+ ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc
creating cache ./config.cache
checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking for working aclocal... missing
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake... missing
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking host system type... Invalid configuration
`s390x-unknown-linux-gnu': machine `s390x-unknown' not recognized

checking for gcc... gcc
checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... yes
checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) is a cross-compiler... no
checking whether we are using GNU C... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes
checking build system type... Invalid configuration
`s390x-unknown-linux-gnu': machine `s390x-unknown' not recognized

checking for s390x-unknown-linux-gnu-ar... ar

any help would be appreciated

Mick Megson



Oracle and other matters

2002-11-12 Thread John Summerfield
Security researchers are warning of a potentially nasty buffer over-run flaw
in Oracle Database 9i
databases.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/28057.html

We do hate to rain on a high-profile corporate love-fest, but we have to point
out that in addition to the much trumpeted $100 million Billg has donated to
India's fight against HIV, he's also funding the Microsoft jihad against
Linux to the far more impressive tune of $421 million.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/28063.html


US military zeros in on Brit cracker
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/28055.html
I guess it would be a low blow to mention cricket, so I won't;-)


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glibc 2.2.5 & SuSE SLES 7

2002-11-12 Thread John Ducker
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Hi,
we have SuSE SLES 7 running on VM 4.2. We need to have the Java JDK 1.3.1
installed, which we are confident of doing, but unfortunately it needs
glibc 2.2.4 or higher which seems trickier. We were hoping that a rpm for
S390 would be available, but we can't spot one. I've looked at the
listserv for clues, and I've noticed some people compiling it from
scratch. I'd appreciate any advice on how we should proceed with this.

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Paolo Paraboschi/Italy/IBM è fuori ufficio.

2002-11-12 Thread Paolo Paraboschi
I will be out of the office starting November 13, 2002 and will not return
until November 21, 2002.

Sono ad un conference a Roma.
Ti risponderò al mio ritorno.
Saluti


linux/390 support

2002-11-12 Thread Tom Rusnak
Please forgive any ignorance in this question, yet another MVS techie
dipping a toe into the linux world.

We are looking to create a Linux/390 LPAR on an H30 and we are trying to
figure out the "support" arrangements for the base operating system.

With (MVS, OS/390, Z/OS) we ring up the IBM support center for all operating
system related problems as part of the cost of licensing the operating
system.

What is IBM's arrangement with Linux/390?   IBM (Australia) has told us that
we do not order Linux via IBM but must order through another site,
presumably Red Hat or SUSE.

If we have installation problems I assume that support is presumably given
through the vendor with whom we purchased Linux.

My concern is what happens once we have a production application running on
Linux/390 and we have an operating system failure.

*) Is there any option for getting support from the IBM support center or
IBM Global Services?
*) Is there a 24x7 support arrangement involved?
*) What are typical costs involved with support for Linux/390?
*) What type of support does IBM provide?  Level 1 equivalent or more?
*) How many out there are running production work on Linux/390?
*) Does anyone have any experience or war stories with using linux support
particularly in Sev-1 or Sev-2 situation?

kindest regards for any responses,

Tom Rusnak
Sydney, Aus.

(This message cross posted between LINUX-390 and IBM-MAIN)



Re: Expanded Storage Question

2002-11-12 Thread Post, Mark K
Paul,

As someone else pointed out, VM still can get some additional performance
out of expanded storage.  Someone else mentioned xpram, but perhaps the best
use is Vdisk for swap.  Linux can swap all it wants to the vdisk, and VM
will see if parts of that aren't being referenced, and page it out to disk.
I'm pretty sure that if you devote part of expanded to xpram, it will all be
marked as unusable by anyone else.

Mark Post

-Original Message-
From: paultz [mailto:paultz@;ucia.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Expanded Storage Question


If I had a 'green with envy' emoticon, I'd use it here.

But since I'm stuck in the past, tell me why you don't configure a 64
bit machine running a 64 bit OS as all real storage?  I thought expanded
was to be a thing of the past?  But as I said, z boxes are just a day
dream for me.

Paul


=

We are getting a z800 with 8 gig of storage. We will have a regular
engine running VM apps that will use 1 gig central, 1 gig expanded. How
do we divide up the remaining 6 gig for the LPAR that has the IFL engine
dedicated to it? This LPAR is strictly for zVM running LINUX guests. I
tried to search the marist archives but am getting firewall proxy access
denied today. We'll be running zVM 4.3 in the IFL.



Amanda on Linux S390

2002-11-12 Thread James Johnson
Is anyone using Amanda to backup Linux dasd and would you mind sharing
your configuration files?

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Re: Expanded Storage Question

2002-11-12 Thread Robert J Brenneman
It has been said that the VM paging algorithms are tuned for 3 levels of
storage, and you will get better performance by giving VM some XSTORE to
play with. I would start with 5 gig of central and 1 gig of expanded
storage, and play with the ratio from there.

Here is a nice writeup on this:
http://www.vm.ibm.com/perf/tips/storconf.html


Linux can also use expanded storage for a very fast swap device. The xpram
driver will provide access to the xstore as if it were any other block
device. Just modprobe xpram ; mkswap /dev/slram0 ; swapon /dev/slram0 and
away you go.


Jay Brenneman





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  11/12/2002 03:49
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  Please respond to
  Linux on 390 Port





We are getting a z800 with 8 gig of storage. We will have a regular
engine running VM apps that will use 1 gig central, 1 gig expanded. How
do we divide up the remaining 6 gig for the LPAR that has the IFL engine
dedicated to it? This LPAR is strictly for zVM running LINUX guests. I
tried to search the marist archives but am getting firewall proxy access
denied today. We'll be running zVM 4.3 in the IFL.



Re: Expanded Storage Question

2002-11-12 Thread paultz
If I had a 'green with envy' emoticon, I'd use it here.

But since I'm stuck in the past, tell me why you don't configure a 64
bit machine running a 64 bit OS as all real storage?  I thought expanded
was to be a thing of the past?  But as I said, z boxes are just a day
dream for me.

Paul


=

We are getting a z800 with 8 gig of storage. We will have a regular
engine running VM apps that will use 1 gig central, 1 gig expanded. How
do we divide up the remaining 6 gig for the LPAR that has the IFL engine
dedicated to it? This LPAR is strictly for zVM running LINUX guests. I
tried to search the marist archives but am getting firewall proxy access
denied today. We'll be running zVM 4.3 in the IFL.



Re: Expanded Storage Question

2002-11-12 Thread McKown, John
I set up my z/800 z/VM LPAR to be all Central Storage, no Expanded. z/VM
supports this. The Linux/390 guests can then use this storage. Linux/390
cannot, to the best of my knowledge, use Expanded Storage at all. Since z/VM
and z/Linux are both running 64 bit, this should work well. Note that I
haven't actually installed z/VM and Linux on this system yet.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Ann Smith [mailto:annsmith@;thehartford.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 2:49 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Expanded Storage Question
>
>
> We are getting a z800 with 8 gig of storage. We will have a regular
> engine running VM apps that will use 1 gig central, 1 gig
> expanded. How
> do we divide up the remaining 6 gig for the LPAR that has the
> IFL engine
> dedicated to it? This LPAR is strictly for zVM running LINUX guests. I
> tried to search the marist archives but am getting firewall
> proxy access
> denied today. We'll be running zVM 4.3 in the IFL.
>



Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Post, Mark K
They're quite old, and hence vulnerable.  I agree that if Pat's company paid
for support after the install that DSG should be able to provide them with
updated versions.  I've probably got newer versions laying around for SuSE
7.0 myself.  I should probably go look for them.

Mark Post

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From: Adam Thornton [mailto:athornton@;sinenomine.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 5:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET


On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 02:46:42PM -0500, Abruzzese, Pat wrote:
> I running SuSE 7.0 (s390) Kernel 2.2.16 this is not from Marist. It was
> installed by Denver Solutions for me.

Unless you explicitly have no post-installation support from Denver
Solutions, you should also probably get your money's worth by asking
them about it.  Although Mark has identified the issue and where to get
the appropriate RPMs.  OpenSSH went through a spate of vulnerabilities
though, and I don't know offhand if the ones there are secure or not.
Ideally you want one of the 3.x OpenSSH versions with privilege
separation.

Adam



Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Dave O'Neill
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 05:39:20AM +0800, John Summerfield wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >  # rpm -qa '*ssh*'
> > rpm: extra arguments given for query of all packages
>
[ snip ]
>
> The oldest system I have is RHL 7.2 and it works there.

Red Hat ships with a newer version of RPM than SuSE.  Red Hat has used RPM
4.x for quite some time, while SuSE still uses RPM 3.x.  The capabilities
are a little different, but using:
   rpm -qa | grep -i ssh
should work just fine regardless of the version of RPM used.

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Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Adam Thornton
On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 02:46:42PM -0500, Abruzzese, Pat wrote:
> I running SuSE 7.0 (s390) Kernel 2.2.16 this is not from Marist. It was
> installed by Denver Solutions for me.

Unless you explicitly have no post-installation support from Denver
Solutions, you should also probably get your money's worth by asking
them about it.  Although Mark has identified the issue and where to get
the appropriate RPMs.  OpenSSH went through a spate of vulnerabilities
though, and I don't know offhand if the ones there are secure or not.
Ideally you want one of the 3.x OpenSSH versions with privilege
separation.

Adam



Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread John Summerfield
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> >> try this
> >> rpm -qa | grep ssh
>
> >or in one command,
> >rpm -qa '*ssh*'
>
>  # rpm -qa '*ssh*'
> rpm: extra arguments given for query of all packages

Odd. I see you quoted it too.
[summer@orange summer]$ rpm -qa '*ssh*'
openssh-server-3.4p1-2
openssh-clients-3.4p1-2
openssh-askpass-gnome-3.4p1-2
kdessh-3.0.3-3
openssh-3.4p1-2
openssh-askpass-3.4p1-2
[summer@orange summer]$

The oldest system I have is RHL 7.2 and it works there.


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Re: Expanded Storage Question

2002-11-12 Thread Post, Mark K
Ann,

You're going to want to configure some of that for expanded as well.  Just
how to split it up, I really couldn't say.  I'm sure (hey Barton!) someone
on the list would be better qualified than I.

M.  z800's.  M.

Mark Post

-Original Message-
From: Ann Smith [mailto:annsmith@;thehartford.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Expanded Storage Question


We are getting a z800 with 8 gig of storage. We will have a regular
engine running VM apps that will use 1 gig central, 1 gig expanded. How
do we divide up the remaining 6 gig for the LPAR that has the IFL engine
dedicated to it? This LPAR is strictly for zVM running LINUX guests. I
tried to search the marist archives but am getting firewall proxy access
denied today. We'll be running zVM 4.3 in the IFL.



Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Mark . Pace
>> try this
>> rpm -qa | grep ssh

>or in one command,
>rpm -qa '*ssh*'

 # rpm -qa '*ssh*'
rpm: extra arguments given for query of all packages



Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread John Summerfield
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Abruzzese, Pat wrote:

> My Unix group will be installing an application under the VM Linux. They
> want to access Linux using SSH instead of TELNET. Where can I get SSH for
> Linux.

openssh is on your Linux CD.


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Re: Backups of Linux volume

2002-11-12 Thread John Summerfield
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Alan Cox wrote:

> On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 18:22, Gowans, Chuck wrote:s.
> > The IPLs fail at assorted points in the boot process.  We are thinking that
> > we now may have to shut down the guests in order to get reliable backups.
> >
>
> That sounds a lot more drastic a failure than I would expect if the dump
> is being done cleanly. The way I dump my live file systems is a little
> zany but it works for me
>
> I hot add a mirror volume to the raid
> I want for a rebuild to finish
> I hot remove it
>
> at that point its close enough that the ext3 journalling log replay
> should fix it up, and if not fsck will have almost no work to do. I
> guess the right approach if you run LVM would be to make a snapshot and
> back up the snapshot.
>
> I don't thinkwhat you are doing is impossible, and its a rather
> important item to get right for a 24x7 OS. In the x86 world drbd seems
> to be the popular approach (basically raid over network)

I would expect _some_ problems because you're backing up a filesystem that's
mounted rw. I would expect the filesystem to be marked dirty and so need some
fscking on boot.

Apparently you _can_ do a coherent backup on Linux if you're using LVM.



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Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread John Summerfield
On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Mark D Pace wrote:

> >I look around for it and can't find it. Which directory would it be
> located.
> >This is not a Marist file system.
> >P. Abruzzese
>
> try this
> rpm -qa | grep ssh

or in one command,
rpm -qa '*ssh*'


> This will tell you if an ssh package has been installed.

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Re: CPU Arch Security

2002-11-12 Thread Scott Courtney
On Tuesday 12 November 2002 11:58 am, Gregg C Levine wrote:
> Actually that was my reaction. The demonstration packet that they sent
> me, was the thing that did it. The terms, "kludge", and "clumsy", and a
> few others that were not polite, crossed my mined, at the time. And you
> are right about what Intel thought it was. They made up a chip for the
> 8086 hardware grouping that included a firmware kernel of the product.
> Funny, they also did the same for a different OS for the 8086. Both part
> numbers are long since retired, or even discontinued.

Oooh! Ooooh! Mister Kotter! I remember those!

The 80130 was a chip that contained an iRMX86 kernel in ROM plus some timer
and I/O support glue. The 80150 contained the core of CPM/86 in the ROM but
was otherwise the same as the 80130. They came in 40-pin DIPs if I recall.
I've still got the databooks around here somewhere, probably.

RMX was actually a pretty decent o.s., when used for its intended purposes.
The 80130 and 80150 never took off in the marketplace, largely because their
mask-programmed ROMs were obsolete too quickly and because EPROMs dropped in
price very rapidly at the same time. Also, both of these chips were quirky
from a hardware design standpoint; I forget the details, but I remember them
being difficult to design-in for one reason or another.

The summer I worked for Intel, I did a lot of sysgens of RMX86 for our big,
powerful servers. You know, those fully-loaded "minicomputer" chassis with
a whopping 768K of RAM and over 5 megabytes of hard disk on line.

And I've just realized how far this poor thread has drifted off-topic. I'm
willing to drop it if you are. :-)

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Expanded Storage Question

2002-11-12 Thread Ann Smith
We are getting a z800 with 8 gig of storage. We will have a regular
engine running VM apps that will use 1 gig central, 1 gig expanded. How
do we divide up the remaining 6 gig for the LPAR that has the IFL engine
dedicated to it? This LPAR is strictly for zVM running LINUX guests. I
tried to search the marist archives but am getting firewall proxy access
denied today. We'll be running zVM 4.3 in the IFL.



Re: SSH instead of TELNET - In regards to S/390 ----> Linux

2002-11-12 Thread Guillermo Freige
There is a partially working port in SG24-5944 Redbook, "Open Source Software
for z/OS and OS/390 UNIX". I think the code isn't included in the tar file
because of copyright problems, but the OpenSSH and OpenSSL chapter describes all
the modifications to the code to obtain a working SSH. It only works for V1
protocol, and only for SSH and SCP of text files, because of limitations of the
SSH protocol and the ASCII/EBCDIC conversions.



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> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:27 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: SSH instead of TELNET - In regards to S/390 > Linux
>
>
> I have SSH installed on Linux, but have the opposite problem in that I need
> an open ssh putty-like shell to connect to it from OS/390 so that I can do
> secure logon from an automation product.
>
> Has anyone done this?
>


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Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Post, Mark K
Pat,

Perhaps it wasn't installed.  If you're running the original SuSE
distribution, you need to go to ftp://ftp.suse.de/pub/suse/s390/7.0/sec1 and
download the RPMs there.  You should probably install mod_ssl.rpm,
openssh.rpm and openssl.rpm.  It wouldn't hurt to install the others as
well.  The versions there are old, so you might want to be adventurous and
get the source RPMs from ftp://ftp.suse.de/pub/suse/s390/7.0/zq1 and use the
.spec files in them to use as models for building current versions.  (I know
that sounds like a lot of work, and it is.  But, that's what running an old
distribution will cause. :(  )

If you're running the later SuSE distribution, or Red Hat, the needed RPMs
will be amongst the other RPMs for installation.  (CD 1 for SuSE.)

Mark Post

-Original Message-
From: Abruzzese, Pat [mailto:Pabruzzese@;Thomcomp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:39 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET


Mark,

I look around for it and can't find it. Which directory would it be located.
This is not a Marist file system.

vr,

P. Abruzzese

> -Original Message-
> From: Post, Mark K [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:54 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET
>
> Pat,
>
> It should have come on your distribution, unless you're using one of the
> Marist file systems (which I don't currently recommend).
>
> Mark Post
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Abruzzese, Pat [mailto:Pabruzzese@;Thomcomp.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:29 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Use SSH instead of TELNET
>
>
> My Unix group will be installing an application under the VM Linux. They
> want to access Linux using SSH instead of TELNET. Where can I get SSH for
> Linux.
>
> vr,
>
> P. Abruzzese



Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Abruzzese, Pat
Mark,

I running SuSE 7.0 (s390) Kernel 2.2.16 this is not from Marist. It was
installed by Denver Solutions for me.

vr,

P. Abruzzese

> -Original Message-
> From: Post, Mark K [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:54 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET
>
> Pat,
>
> It should have come on your distribution, unless you're using one of the
> Marist file systems (which I don't currently recommend).
>
> Mark Post
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Abruzzese, Pat [mailto:Pabruzzese@;Thomcomp.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:29 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Use SSH instead of TELNET
>
>
> My Unix group will be installing an application under the VM Linux. They
> want to access Linux using SSH instead of TELNET. Where can I get SSH for
> Linux.
>
> vr,
>
> P. Abruzzese



Re: SSH instead of TELNET - In regards to S/390 ----> Linux

2002-11-12 Thread Dave Jones
There is an Open SSH implementation at:
http://s390.nichols.de/ssh/index.html

That might be of some use.

Dave Jones
Sine Nomine Associates
Houston, TX
- Original Message -
From: "Gregg C Levine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: SSH instead of TELNET - In regards to S/390 > Linux


Hello from Gregg C Levine
Not me. But I believe that the source code is, ah, freely available for
SSH, so theoretically it could be built on OS/390, via the usual sets of
tools there. Also someone might have constructed a port for OS/390,
already.
---
Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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> -Original Message-
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@;VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of
> James Melin
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:27 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [LINUX-390] SSH instead of TELNET - In regards to S/390 >
Linux
>
> I have SSH installed on Linux, but have the opposite problem in that I
need
> an open ssh putty-like shell to connect to it from OS/390 so that I
can do
> secure logon from an automation product.
>
> Has anyone done this?



Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Mark D Pace
>I look around for it and can't find it. Which directory would it be
located.
>This is not a Marist file system.
>P. Abruzzese

try this
rpm -qa | grep ssh

This will tell you if an ssh package has been installed.




Mark D Pace
Senior Systems Engineer
Mainline Information Systems
1700 Summit Lake Drive
Tallahassee, FL. 32317
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Office: 850.219.5184
Fax: 850.219.5050
http://www.mainline.com



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Pat"  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Mark,

I look around for it and can't find it. Which directory would it be
located.
This is not a Marist file system.

vr,

P. Abruzzese

> -Original Message-
> From: Post, Mark K [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:54 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET
>
> Pat,
>
> It should have come on your distribution, unless you're using one of the
> Marist file systems (which I don't currently recommend).
>
> Mark Post
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Abruzzese, Pat [mailto:Pabruzzese@;Thomcomp.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:29 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Use SSH instead of TELNET
>
>
> My Unix group will be installing an application under the VM Linux. They
> want to access Linux using SSH instead of TELNET. Where can I get SSH for
> Linux.
>
> vr,
>
> P. Abruzzese



Re: Backups of Linux volume

2002-11-12 Thread Loren Charnley, Jr.
Chuck,

Although I only have two LINUX guests under zVM 3.1, I have an exec that
runs the backups using DDR.  I have the operator shutdown each instance
while they run the backup and at the end the EXEC will ask whether to
IPL(boot) or not.  I successfully recovered both LINUX quests when I went
through a DR in September.

Loren Charnley, Jr.
Tech Support Administrator
Family Dollar Stores, Inc.
Phone:  (704) 847-6961 Ext. 2000

> -Original Message-
> From: Gowans, Chuck [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:22 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Backups of Linux volume
>
> One of the selling points I've been using to promote Linux here is the
> fact
> that it appears to be the first truly cost effective means of transporting
> Unix/Linux mid-range systems - affordably - to our hot site.  You know the
> drill. the Linux file systems reside on 390 DASD, the same DASD we
> subscribe to at hot site...  the hardware is the same so we can run
> our
> guests under VM there also, no need to buy duplicate hardware etc.,
> etc,.
>
> Our approach has been that I can use our OS/390 LPAR to touch the z/VM
> DASD
> volumes (temporarily) and get full volume dumps using ADRDSSU.  The full
> volumes would contain Linux mini disks for one or more of the Linux
> guests.
> The production OS/390 LPAR can then handle the processing of the tapes for
> hot site just like all other OS/390 disaster recovery backups we take -
> i.e.
> they fall into a designated tape rotation to our offsite tape vault, and
> subsequently can be pulled for transport to hot site.  Once at hot site,
> we
> should be able to restore these full volume dumps and would have all of
> our
> mini disks back and can then fire up z/VM and the Linux guests.  We are
> using the same process to backup the z/VM system volumes.
>
> We are not having good luck getting the Linux systems to boot when we have
> tested the restore process here.  We (thought we) understood the need to
> have the Linux guest quiesced so we could get a clean dump - and as such
> issued a 'sync' command hoping all of the buffers would be written to disk
> form the affected guest(s).  What (we think) is apparently happening is
> that
> some level of VM caching is still keeping all of the data from getting
> written when we expect it, or - even though it's late at night - there is
> still some activity going on in the Linux OS that's corrupting the
> backups.
> The IPLs fail at assorted points in the boot process.  We are thinking
> that
> we now may have to shut down the guests in order to get reliable backups.
>
> My questions relating to this are:
>
> Does this seem like a feasible approach?
> Is anyone out there backing up a large number of guests in this, or a
> similar manner?  If so, how are you doing it?
> Is there a better way to temporarily quiesce a 390-Linux system to get
> good
> copies of the mini disk volumes?
>
> We would like the Linux guests to be available as close to possible to
> 7x24x365 - meaning we would like to avoid a large "backup window" type
> outage; and we are thinking about buying the "point-in-time" backup
> capability for our DASD subsystems to reduce this window.  The process
> would
> be similar to what I described above except the backups would take seconds
> per volume - which would mean the Linux guests could resume work after the
> "Snap" occurred - and the "snapped" copies could be dumped to tape as the
> tape drives became available.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
> Chuck Gowans
> USDA - Nat'l IT Center - Kansas City
>
>
> 
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Re: Backups of Linux volume

2002-11-12 Thread Alan Altmark
On Tuesday, 11/12/2002 at 12:22 CST, "Gowans, Chuck"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[snip]
> We are not having good luck getting the Linux systems to boot when we
have
> tested the restore process here.  We (thought we) understood the need to
> have the Linux guest quiesced so we could get a clean dump - and as such
> issued a 'sync' command hoping all of the buffers would be written to
disk
> form the affected guest(s).  What (we think) is apparently happening is
that
> some level of VM caching is still keeping all of the data from getting
> written when we expect it, or - even though it's late at night - there
is
> still some activity going on in the Linux OS that's corrupting the
backups.
> The IPLs fail at assorted points in the boot process.  We are thinking
that
> we now may have to shut down the guests in order to get reliable
backups.

The VM minidisk cache is probably getting in your way.  Look at the CP SET
MDCACHE command for ways to flush (or turn off) the cache after you have
quieced Linux.  You can do it on a volume or minidisk basis, depending on
how you do your backups.

Where 7x24x365 is required, you should already have load
balancers/sprayers, etc. in place.  Make sure your web/app server
"clusters" have minidisks on different volumes so you can take down one
server at a time, yet still maintain the service.

Alan Altmark
Sr. Software Engineer
IBM z/VM Development



Re: SSH instead of TELNET - In regards to S/390 ----> Linux

2002-11-12 Thread Rick Troth
> I have SSH installed on Linux, but have the opposite problem
> in that I need an open ssh putty-like shell to connect to it
> from OS/390 so that I can do secure logon from an automation product.

SSH was ported to OMVS ... I thought.
Can't seem to find it on the "Tools and Toys" page.   :-(

 http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/unix/bpxa1ty2.html



Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Abruzzese, Pat
Mark,

I look around for it and can't find it. Which directory would it be located.
This is not a Marist file system.

vr,

P. Abruzzese

> -Original Message-
> From: Post, Mark K [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:54 AM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET
>
> Pat,
>
> It should have come on your distribution, unless you're using one of the
> Marist file systems (which I don't currently recommend).
>
> Mark Post
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Abruzzese, Pat [mailto:Pabruzzese@;Thomcomp.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:29 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Use SSH instead of TELNET
>
>
> My Unix group will be installing an application under the VM Linux. They
> want to access Linux using SSH instead of TELNET. Where can I get SSH for
> Linux.
>
> vr,
>
> P. Abruzzese



Re: SSH instead of TELNET - In regards to S/390 ----> Linux

2002-11-12 Thread Post, Mark K
James,

There's a port of OpenSSH to OS/390's UNIX System Services environment.
That doesn't sound like what you're after, though.  (Or does it?)  IBM's
SG24-5944 Redbook, "Open Source Software for z/OS and OS/390 UNIX" is the
place to look, if it is what you want.

Mark Post

-Original Message-
From: James Melin [mailto:Jim.Melin@;co.hennepin.mn.us]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: SSH instead of TELNET - In regards to S/390 > Linux


I have SSH installed on Linux, but have the opposite problem in that I need
an open ssh putty-like shell to connect to it from OS/390 so that I can do
secure logon from an automation product.

Has anyone done this?



Re: SSH instead of TELNET - In regards to S/390 ----> Linux

2002-11-12 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello from Gregg C Levine
Not me. But I believe that the source code is, ah, freely available for
SSH, so theoretically it could be built on OS/390, via the usual sets of
tools there. Also someone might have constructed a port for OS/390,
already. 
---
Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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"Use the Force, Luke."  Obi-Wan Kenobi
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> -Original Message-
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@;VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of
> James Melin
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:27 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [LINUX-390] SSH instead of TELNET - In regards to S/390 >
Linux
> 
> I have SSH installed on Linux, but have the opposite problem in that I
need
> an open ssh putty-like shell to connect to it from OS/390 so that I
can do
> secure logon from an automation product.
> 
> Has anyone done this?



Re: Backups of Linux volume

2002-11-12 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 18:22, Gowans, Chuck wrote:s.
> The IPLs fail at assorted points in the boot process.  We are thinking that
> we now may have to shut down the guests in order to get reliable backups.
>

That sounds a lot more drastic a failure than I would expect if the dump
is being done cleanly. The way I dump my live file systems is a little
zany but it works for me

I hot add a mirror volume to the raid
I want for a rebuild to finish
I hot remove it

at that point its close enough that the ext3 journalling log replay
should fix it up, and if not fsck will have almost no work to do. I
guess the right approach if you run LVM would be to make a snapshot and
back up the snapshot.

I don't thinkwhat you are doing is impossible, and its a rather
important item to get right for a 24x7 OS. In the x86 world drbd seems
to be the popular approach (basically raid over network)


Alan



SSH instead of TELNET - In regards to S/390 ----> Linux

2002-11-12 Thread James Melin
I have SSH installed on Linux, but have the opposite problem in that I need
an open ssh putty-like shell to connect to it from OS/390 so that I can do
secure logon from an automation product.

Has anyone done this?



Backups of Linux volume

2002-11-12 Thread Gowans, Chuck
One of the selling points I've been using to promote Linux here is the fact
that it appears to be the first truly cost effective means of transporting
Unix/Linux mid-range systems - affordably - to our hot site.  You know the
drill. the Linux file systems reside on 390 DASD, the same DASD we
subscribe to at hot site...  the hardware is the same so we can run our
guests under VM there also, no need to buy duplicate hardware etc.,
etc,.

Our approach has been that I can use our OS/390 LPAR to touch the z/VM DASD
volumes (temporarily) and get full volume dumps using ADRDSSU.  The full
volumes would contain Linux mini disks for one or more of the Linux guests.
The production OS/390 LPAR can then handle the processing of the tapes for
hot site just like all other OS/390 disaster recovery backups we take - i.e.
they fall into a designated tape rotation to our offsite tape vault, and
subsequently can be pulled for transport to hot site.  Once at hot site, we
should be able to restore these full volume dumps and would have all of our
mini disks back and can then fire up z/VM and the Linux guests.  We are
using the same process to backup the z/VM system volumes.

We are not having good luck getting the Linux systems to boot when we have
tested the restore process here.  We (thought we) understood the need to
have the Linux guest quiesced so we could get a clean dump - and as such
issued a 'sync' command hoping all of the buffers would be written to disk
form the affected guest(s).  What (we think) is apparently happening is that
some level of VM caching is still keeping all of the data from getting
written when we expect it, or - even though it's late at night - there is
still some activity going on in the Linux OS that's corrupting the backups.
The IPLs fail at assorted points in the boot process.  We are thinking that
we now may have to shut down the guests in order to get reliable backups.

My questions relating to this are:

Does this seem like a feasible approach?
Is anyone out there backing up a large number of guests in this, or a
similar manner?  If so, how are you doing it?
Is there a better way to temporarily quiesce a 390-Linux system to get good
copies of the mini disk volumes?

We would like the Linux guests to be available as close to possible to
7x24x365 - meaning we would like to avoid a large "backup window" type
outage; and we are thinking about buying the "point-in-time" backup
capability for our DASD subsystems to reduce this window.  The process would
be similar to what I described above except the backups would take seconds
per volume - which would mean the Linux guests could resume work after the
"Snap" occurred - and the "snapped" copies could be dumped to tape as the
tape drives became available.

Any help would be appreciated.

Chuck Gowans
USDA - Nat'l IT Center - Kansas City



Re: CPU Arch Security [was: Re: Probably the first published shell code]

2002-11-12 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello from Gregg C Levine
Sorry typo in my comment there. The word should be "mind". Not the one I
chose instead. My mind is locked on a currently running process. A
slowly running one in fact.
---
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> -Original Message-
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@;VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Gregg C Levine
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:59 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] CPU Arch Security [was: Re: Probably the
first
> published shell code]
> 
> Hello from Gregg C Levine
> Actually that was my reaction. The demonstration packet that they sent
> me, was the thing that did it. The terms, "kludge", and "clumsy", and
a
> few others that were not polite, crossed my mined, at the time. And
you
> are right about what Intel thought it was. They made up a chip for the
> 8086 hardware grouping that included a firmware kernel of the product.
> Funny, they also did the same for a different OS for the 8086. Both
part
> numbers are long since retired, or even discontinued.
> ---
> Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> "The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
> "Use the Force, Luke."  Obi-Wan Kenobi
> (This company dedicates this E-Mail to General Obi-Wan Kenobi )
> (This company dedicates this E-Mail to Master Yoda )
> 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@;VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf
> Of
> > Scott Courtney
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:05 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] CPU Arch Security [was: Re: Probably the
> first
> > published shell code]
> >
> > On Monday 11 November 2002 05:34 pm, Gregg C Levine wrote:
> > > However, I did look at the
> > > product, for Windows. And I wasn't thrilled by it.
> >
> > iRMX for Windows? UGH!!! My mind quails at the mere thought.
> >
> > (For those unfamiliar, iRMX was/is a realtime operating system
created
> by Intel
> > and primarily used in hard- and soft-realtime embedded
applications.)
> >
> > --
> >
>

> -
> > Scott D. Courtney, Senior Engineer Sine Nomine
> Associates
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.sinenomine.net/



Re: CPU Arch Security [was: Re: Probably the first published shell code]

2002-11-12 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello from Gregg C Levine
Actually that was my reaction. The demonstration packet that they sent
me, was the thing that did it. The terms, "kludge", and "clumsy", and a
few others that were not polite, crossed my mined, at the time. And you
are right about what Intel thought it was. They made up a chip for the
8086 hardware grouping that included a firmware kernel of the product.
Funny, they also did the same for a different OS for the 8086. Both part
numbers are long since retired, or even discontinued.
---
Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED]

"The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
"Use the Force, Luke."  Obi-Wan Kenobi
(This company dedicates this E-Mail to General Obi-Wan Kenobi )
(This company dedicates this E-Mail to Master Yoda )



> -Original Message-
> From: Linux on 390 Port [mailto:LINUX-390@;VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of
> Scott Courtney
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:05 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [LINUX-390] CPU Arch Security [was: Re: Probably the
first
> published shell code]
> 
> On Monday 11 November 2002 05:34 pm, Gregg C Levine wrote:
> > However, I did look at the
> > product, for Windows. And I wasn't thrilled by it.
> 
> iRMX for Windows? UGH!!! My mind quails at the mere thought.
> 
> (For those unfamiliar, iRMX was/is a realtime operating system created
by Intel
> and primarily used in hard- and soft-realtime embedded applications.)
> 
> --
>

-
> Scott D. Courtney, Senior Engineer Sine Nomine
Associates
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.sinenomine.net/



Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Post, Mark K
Pat,

It should have come on your distribution, unless you're using one of the
Marist file systems (which I don't currently recommend).

Mark Post

-Original Message-
From: Abruzzese, Pat [mailto:Pabruzzese@;Thomcomp.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Use SSH instead of TELNET


My Unix group will be installing an application under the VM Linux. They
want to access Linux using SSH instead of TELNET. Where can I get SSH for
Linux.

vr,

P. Abruzzese



Re: CPU Arch Security [was: Re: Probably the first published shell code]

2002-11-12 Thread Scott Courtney
On Monday 11 November 2002 05:34 pm, Gregg C Levine wrote:
> However, I did look at the
> product, for Windows. And I wasn't thrilled by it.

iRMX for Windows? UGH!!! My mind quails at the mere thought.

(For those unfamiliar, iRMX was/is a realtime operating system created by Intel
and primarily used in hard- and soft-realtime embedded applications.)

--
-
Scott D. Courtney, Senior Engineer Sine Nomine Associates
[EMAIL PROTECTED]   http://www.sinenomine.net/



Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Mark D Pace
AFAIK all vanilla installs of Linux for s390 have ssh installed and ready
for use.



Mark D Pace
Senior Systems Engineer
Mainline Information Systems
1700 Summit Lake Drive
Tallahassee, FL. 32317
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Office: 850.219.5184
Fax: 850.219.5050
http://www.mainline.com



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Pat"  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Use SSH instead of TELNET
Sent by: Linux
on 390 Port
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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11/12/2002
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Please respond
to Linux on 390
Port






My Unix group will be installing an application under the VM Linux. They
want to access Linux using SSH instead of TELNET. Where can I get SSH for
Linux.

vr,

P. Abruzzese



Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread David Andrews
On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 11:28, Abruzzese, Pat wrote:
> Where can I get SSH for Linux.

http://www.openssh.com/ worked for me on the original SLES for S/390.

--
David Andrews
A. Duda and Sons, Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Michael Martin
www.openssh.com


On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 10:28, Abruzzese, Pat wrote:
> My Unix group will be installing an application under the VM Linux. They
> want to access Linux using SSH instead of TELNET. Where can I get SSH for
> Linux.
>
> vr,
>
> P. Abruzzese
--
-
Michael Martin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(713) 918-2631




Use SSH instead of TELNET

2002-11-12 Thread Abruzzese, Pat
My Unix group will be installing an application under the VM Linux. They
want to access Linux using SSH instead of TELNET. Where can I get SSH for
Linux.

vr,

P. Abruzzese



Re: SUSE s390 - Zebra installation problems

2002-11-12 Thread Post, Mark K
Michael,

Since zebra comes on the SuSE distribution, I'm wondering why you're trying
to build it from source?

It sounds like the version of zebra you're compiling has an out-of-date
config.guess and/or config.sub file in it.  That would be why it doesn't
understand "s390x-unknown-linux-gnu" as a valid system type.  You could try
copying those files from /usr/share/libtool into where ever you find them in
the zebra source tree.

I wasn't able to find either RTM_ADD or RTM_DELETE on my system.  I have a
bunch of RTM_somethings in /usr/src/linux/include/linux/rtnetlink.h, but not
those.

Mark Post

-Original Message-
From: Michael.Megson [mailto:megson@;attglobal.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 8:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SUSE s390 - Zebra installation problems


Hi,  I have been trying to install Zebra on a z/VM-Linux 390 virtual machine
and
have a problem with the make process.

Everything appears to go well until .
rt_socket.c: In function `kernel_rtm_ipv4':
rt_socket.c:100: `RTM_ADD' undeclared (first use in this function)
rt_socket.c:100: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
rt_socket.c:100: for each function it appears in.)
rt_socket.c:105: `RTM_DELETE' undeclared (first use in this function)
rt_socket.c: In function `kernel_add_ipv4':
rt_socket.c:183: `RTM_ADD' undeclared (first use in this function)
rt_socket.c: In function `kernel_delete_ipv4':
rt_socket.c:189: `RTM_DELETE' undeclared (first use in this function)
rt_socket.c: In function `kernel_rtm_ipv6_multipath':
rt_socket.c:317: `RTM_ADD' undeclared (first use in this function)
rt_socket.c:322: `RTM_DELETE' undeclared (first use in this function)
rt_socket.c: In function `kernel_add_ipv6':
rt_socket.c:417: `RTM_ADD' undeclared (first use in this function)
rt_socket.c: In function `kernel_delete_ipv6':
rt_socket.c:423: `RTM_DELETE' undeclared (first use in this function)
rt_socket.c: In function `kernel_delete_ipv6_old':
rt_socket.c:431: `RTM_DELETE' undeclared (first use in this function)
make[2]: *** [rt_socket.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/packages/BUILD/zebra-0.92a/zebra'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/packages/BUILD/zebra-0.92a'
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.39744 (%build)

I looked earlier in the process and found
zebra configuration
---
zebra version   : 0.92a
host operationg system  :
source code location: .
compiler: gcc
compiler flags  : -g -O2 -Wall
directory for pid files : /var/run

+ make
make  all-recursive
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/packages/BUILD/zebra-0.92a'
Making all in lib
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/packages/BUILD/zebra-0.92a/lib'
echo '' >version.c
echo 'char *host_name = "s390x-unknown-linux-gnu";' >>version.c
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DSYSCONFDIR=\"/etc/\" -I.. -I.. -I../lib-g -O2 -Wal
l -c version.c

and even earlier
+ ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc
creating cache ./config.cache
checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking for working aclocal... missing
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake... missing
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking host system type... Invalid configuration
`s390x-unknown-linux-gnu': machine `s390x-unknown' not recognized

checking for gcc... gcc
checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... yes
checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) is a cross-compiler... no
checking whether we are using GNU C... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes
checking build system type... Invalid configuration
`s390x-unknown-linux-gnu': machine `s390x-unknown' not recognized

checking for s390x-unknown-linux-gnu-ar... ar

any help would be appreciated

Mick Megson



Re: Anyone running a 2.5 kernel?

2002-11-12 Thread Don Mulvey
Hi Mark,

No development system here.  I am running Linux in a VM to work on volume
mgt code. I need to verify evms user interface tools with device mapper on
various platforms and was looking for any gotchas before proceeding on 390.

-Don


-Original Message-
Date:Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:34:10 -0500
From:"Post, Mark K" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Anyone running a 2.5 kernel?

Don,

The only warning I can think of is that you're going to be running a
"development" kernel.  Unless you're planning on being part of the
development process, providing feedback to the kernel developers, etc., you
don't want to do that.  If that _is_ your intent, then go for it.

Mark Post



Re: CPU Arch Security [was: Re: Probably the first published shell code]

2002-11-12 Thread Lloyd Fuller
On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:38:13 -0600, Linas Vepstas wrote:

>On Tue, Nov 12, 2002 at 02:00:14AM +0100, Ulrich Weigand was heard to remark:
>> Linas Vepstas wrote:
>>
>Ugh. Well, that could stop the show.  But since the instruction causing
>this would be a problem state instruction, maybe there are fewer wacky
>situations to deal with.  Clearly, a store can be re-executed without
>harm, even if its been partly executed before.  The problem would be
>with any instructions that had side effects, that would not do the same
>thing the second time around, as it did the first time.  I don't know
>what these would be.
>
Actually on 390, a storage instruction MAY not necessarily be able to
be re-executed without problem.  You need to specify what store you
are talking about.  A register to storage or storage to register
instruction CAN be re-executed without problem.  However, 390 has
storage to storage instructions, and those instructions can overlap
and DO overlap.  And those MAY have problems if interrupted in the
middle.  In fact, if you look in the Principle of Operations book for
MVCL, you will find an elaborate explanation of the oops that you can
get if you are overlaping a MVCL, and the instruction is interrupted
(which can happen easily with an MVCL on a multi-processing system).
So imagine what could happen with such an instruction when you went
over a page boundary, the new page had different protection, and you
tried to restart the instruction.

Lloyd



Re: SUSE s390 - Zebra installation problems

2002-11-12 Thread Michael.Megson
Hi,  I have been trying to install Zebra on a z/VM-Linux 390 virtual machine
and
have a problem with the make process.

Everything appears to go well until .
rt_socket.c: In function `kernel_rtm_ipv4':
rt_socket.c:100: `RTM_ADD' undeclared (first use in this function)
rt_socket.c:100: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
rt_socket.c:100: for each function it appears in.)
rt_socket.c:105: `RTM_DELETE' undeclared (first use in this function)
rt_socket.c: In function `kernel_add_ipv4':
rt_socket.c:183: `RTM_ADD' undeclared (first use in this function)
rt_socket.c: In function `kernel_delete_ipv4':
rt_socket.c:189: `RTM_DELETE' undeclared (first use in this function)
rt_socket.c: In function `kernel_rtm_ipv6_multipath':
rt_socket.c:317: `RTM_ADD' undeclared (first use in this function)
rt_socket.c:322: `RTM_DELETE' undeclared (first use in this function)
rt_socket.c: In function `kernel_add_ipv6':
rt_socket.c:417: `RTM_ADD' undeclared (first use in this function)
rt_socket.c: In function `kernel_delete_ipv6':
rt_socket.c:423: `RTM_DELETE' undeclared (first use in this function)
rt_socket.c: In function `kernel_delete_ipv6_old':
rt_socket.c:431: `RTM_DELETE' undeclared (first use in this function)
make[2]: *** [rt_socket.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/packages/BUILD/zebra-0.92a/zebra'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/packages/BUILD/zebra-0.92a'
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.39744 (%build)

I looked earlier in the process and found
zebra configuration
---
zebra version   : 0.92a
host operationg system  :
source code location: .
compiler: gcc
compiler flags  : -g -O2 -Wall
directory for pid files : /var/run

+ make
make  all-recursive
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/packages/BUILD/zebra-0.92a'
Making all in lib
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/packages/BUILD/zebra-0.92a/lib'
echo '' >version.c
echo 'char *host_name = "s390x-unknown-linux-gnu";' >>version.c
gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DSYSCONFDIR=\"/etc/\" -I.. -I.. -I../lib-g -O2 -Wal
l -c version.c

and even earlier
+ ./configure --prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc
creating cache ./config.cache
checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes
checking for working aclocal... missing
checking for working autoconf... found
checking for working automake... missing
checking for working autoheader... found
checking for working makeinfo... found
checking host system type... Invalid configuration
`s390x-unknown-linux-gnu': machine `s390x-unknown' not recognized

checking for gcc... gcc
checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) works... yes
checking whether the C compiler (gcc  ) is a cross-compiler... no
checking whether we are using GNU C... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... (cached) yes
checking build system type... Invalid configuration
`s390x-unknown-linux-gnu': machine `s390x-unknown' not recognized

checking for s390x-unknown-linux-gnu-ar... ar

any help would be appreciated

Mick Megson