Re: Security questions: Login spoofing, X11 keylogging, and sandboxed apps
Hello, when I read posts like @Dan's, I say to myself: Don't feed the troll. Pointless. Wish you all a nice weekend, Heinz Gesendet: Donnerstag, 28. März 2024 um 23:02 Uhr Von: "Jan Stary" An: misc@openbsd.org Betreff: Re: Security questions: Login spoofing, X11 keylogging, and sandboxed apps go away On Mar 28 21:16:45, dan.peretz...@gmail.com wrote: > You didn't "Reply All", so I didn't get your reply in my inbox. (The person > you're replying to should be in the To field, and the mailing list in the > Cc field.) > > >Even on windows; this has nothing to do with intercepting ctrl-alt-del. > False. Ctrl-Alt-Delete cannot be intercepted on Windows without first > compromising the integrity of the operating system. The Windows kernel is > hardcoded to forward Ctrl-Alt-Delete to Winlogon, and Winlogon runs in a > separate Secure Desktop mode that takes over the entire screen and no other > programs can intercept keystrokes from or send keystrokes to. > https://security.stackexchange.com/a/34975 > https://learn.microsoft.com/windows/win32/winstation/desktops[https://learn.microsoft.com/windows/win32/winstation/desktops] > > >I don't believe that's true. > >"Dear X11, what is $user typing into his firefox textarea"? > I'm not an X11 expert, and I'm not sure if the example provided in the > following link is because the program and the desktop it's running under > have different UIDs (rather than locking the desktop, logging into a > different user with a new desktop session using a SAK like Ctrl-Alt-Delete, > and running it there), but I found this old blog post, by whom I believe is > the founder of Qubes OS, being cited somewhere: > https://theinvisiblethings.blogspot.com/2011/04/linux-security-circus-on-gui-isolation.html[https://theinvisiblethings.blogspot.com/2011/04/linux-security-circus-on-gui-isolation.html] > It is common knowledge that X11 is insecure by design, not (only) by the > ancient code, so even if the blog post isn't relevant anymore, it wouldn't > surprise me if such attacks could still be done. > > >>I saw that Chromium, Firefox, and Tor Browser on OpenBSD (at least when > installed from the OpenBSD package manager/ports) are sandboxed with > pledge(2) and unveil(2). > >find /usr/ports/ -name pledge\* > Already done: > https://openports.pl/search?file=unveil[https://openports.pl/search?file=unveil] > This only lists third-party packages that have an OpenBSD ports-originated > addition of pledge/unveil configuration files; packages that use > pledge/unveil without configuration files, or whose pledge/unveil > configuration files originate from the upstream distribution, are not > listed. Chromium, Ungoogled Chromium, Firefox, Firefox ESR, and Tor Browser > are sandboxed, which is excellent because Web browsing is one of the most > popular desktop activity and browsers are meant to use networking and > execute untrusted JavaScript/WebAssembly code, and parse untrusted data > like media, CSS, etc. Contrary to servers, that if they're hacked then some > business might be ruined, personal computers are used to do banking and > shopping online, chat with distant friends/family > members/doctors/lawyers/coworkers/etc., and hold our personal thoughts and > memories, so I believe that they shouldn't get compromised just because the > user entered the wrong website on a bad day, or opened the wrong video, or > the wrong file, etc. OpenBSD already has the excellent system calls > pledge(2) and unveil(2), and already uses them extensively in the base > system and for the aforementioned browsers, but what about other programs?
Re: No coloring with colorls
Hello, I use in my user .profile ~/.profile TERM=wsvt25 export PATH HOME TERM export ENV=$HOME/.kshrc export CLICOLOR=true export LSCOLORS=ExGxcxdxCxegedabagacad and in the .kshrc ~/.kshrc alias ls=/usr/local/bin/colorls For me it´s ok on the console and on X. For me it's a gimmick. Actually always try to stick to base with everything. Hope it´s on topic. Wish you all the best, Heinz Gesendet: Dienstag, 26. März 2024 um 18:50 Uhr Von: "Chris Bennett" An: "Karel Lucas" , misc@openbsd.org Betreff: Re: No coloring with colorls On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 11:40:52PM +0100, Karel Lucas wrote: > Hi all, > > LSCOLORS=exfxcxdxbxegedabagacad > I just use TERM=xterm If you use a black background (or some other dark colors), you will want to change LSCOLORS to not use a dark blue. I find that color combo unreadable. I just use alias ls='colorls -Gla'. You can either have other aliases or just type colorls with the same arguments as ls to get other options. -- Regards, Chris Bennett "Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past." George Orwell - 1984
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Re: openbsd is shockingly good
yes, it's quite nice. :) On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 5:27 PM wrote: > I have to say I am really impressed. This is how IT should be done. My > compliments to the developers. > >
Re: pf faq for openBSD 5.9
Hi, I resolved my problem with pf I search in: Index of /pub/OpenBSD/doc/history/ <https://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/doc/history/> I'm searching support for my old soekris 4501 Best regards. On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 2:07 PM Allan Streib wrote: > "Francisco Valladolid H." writes: > > > I'm searching the PF FAQ for OpenBSD 5.9 in the history docs without > > success. > > Did you try archive.org? > > > https://web.archive.org/web/20160430175649/https://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/index.html > > Allan > -- Francisco Valladolid H. -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.
Re: pf faq for openBSD 5.9
Thanks for reply. On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 1:31 PM Tom Smyth wrote: > Francisco > > Suggest you update ... there are a number options for running modern > supported openbsd on flash > I think my old soekrisk 4501 don't have support for new BSD releases. > > That aside > > You can try > man pf.conf or man pf on the router as the manpages are probably installed > thank you. > > > > > On Wednesday, 17 February 2021, Francisco Valladolid H. > wrote: > >> Hi folks >> >> I'm searching the PF FAQ for OpenBSD 5.9 in the history docs without >> success. >> I'm setting and Soekris 4501 router for a small office and the >> flashrd images support >> OpenBSD 5.9. >> >> Thank you for reading. >> >> -- >> Francisco Valladolid H. >> -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower. >> > > > -- > Kindest regards, > Tom Smyth. > -- Francisco Valladolid H. -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.
pf faq for openBSD 5.9
Hi folks I'm searching the PF FAQ for OpenBSD 5.9 in the history docs without success. I'm setting and Soekris 4501 router for a small office and the flashrd images support OpenBSD 5.9. Thank you for reading. -- Francisco Valladolid H. -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.
Buying a New Laptop
Hi, I'm thinking about getting a new laptop, and I want to get something with good OpenBSD support. I know ThinkPads have had good support historically, and I'm wondering if that holds for recent machines. In particular, I've been eyeing the L13. Does anyone have a similar machine running OpenBSD that could comment on the hardware support? Thanks, Patrick
Buying a New Laptop
Hi, I'm thinking about getting a new laptop, and I want to get something with good OpenBSD support. I know ThinkPads have had good support historically, and I'm wondering if that holds for recent machines. In particular, I've been eyeing the L13. Does anyone have a similar machine running OpenBSD that could comment on the hardware support? Thanks, Patrick
Re: How do you get different $PS1 for /bin/sh and /bin/ksh?
On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 10:26 AM Ottavio Caruso wrote: > On 18/09/2020 09:01, Tom H wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 3:16 PM Ottavio Caruso >> wrote: >>> On 17/09/2020 10:40, Tom H wrote: >>>> You've said that you're now sourcing "$HOME/.kshrc" if >>>> "SKSH_VERSION" exists. >>>> >>>> You could add the sourcing of "$HOME/.shrc" if "$SH_VERSION" >>>> exists. >>>> >>>> Or you could export ENV and use a case-esac of this kind: >>>> >>>> case "$0" in >>>> *ksh) >>>> ... >>>> PS1='\u@\h:\w\$ ' >>>> ;; >>>> *sh) >>>> ... >>>> PS1='${USER}@${HOST}:${PWD}\$ ' >>>> ;; >>>> esac >>> >>> This solves the problem. Thanks. >> >> You're welcome. >> >> But, out of curiosity, which option did you choose? TIA > > Ah sorry, I used the second option. > > I have this in .profile: > > export ENV="$HOME/.kshrc" > > and this in .kshrc: > > case "$0" in > *ksh) > PS1='\u@\h:\w\$ ' > ;; > *sh) > PS1='${USER}@${HOST}:${PWD}\$ ' > ;; > esac OK. Thanks. > On my NetBSD VM, sh and ksh are two different executables. ENV points > to ~/.shrc which then sources ./.kshrc if KSH_VERSION = true > > I have thought of replicating the same configuration over to OpenBSD > but I might be looking for trouble. I use the same dotfiles on OpenBSD and NetBSD (I therefore don't use OpenBSD's ksh backslash-escaped variables). > On a side note, there's no mention of startup files in sh(1) and I > wonder why. Because POSIX sh doesn't define startup files, only "ENV". 4.2BSD sh, on the other hand, read "$HOME/.profile" (only) in login mode, but didn't read "ENV" in interactive mode.
Re: How do you get different $PS1 for /bin/sh and /bin/ksh?
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 3:16 PM Ottavio Caruso wrote: > On 17/09/2020 10:40, Tom H wrote: >> >> You've said that you're now sourcing "$HOME/.kshrc" if >>"SKSH_VERSION" exists. >> >> You could add the sourcing of "$HOME/.shrc" if "$SH_VERSION" exists. >> >> Or you could export ENV and use a case-esac of this kind: >> >> case "$0" in >> *ksh) >> ... >> PS1='\u@\h:\w\$ ' >> ;; >> *sh) >> ... >> PS1='${USER}@${HOST}:${PWD}\$ ' >> ;; >> esac > > This solves the problem. Thanks. You're welcome. But, out of curiosity, which option did you choose? TIA
Re: How do you get different $PS1 for /bin/sh and /bin/ksh?
On Thu, Sep 17, 2020 at 9:33 AM Ottavio Caruso wrote: > On 17/09/2020 00:58, Ashlen wrote: >> On 20/09/15 05:49PM, Ottavio Caruso wrote: >>> >>> Maybe it's just because OpenBSD sh is just ksh in disguise or there >>> might be other reasons that I obviously don't know. >> >> Yep, you're right. They share the same inode. >> >> ls -li /bin/{,k}sh >> >> 77862 -r-xr-xr-x 3 root bin 613656 Sep 15 12:10 /bin/ksh >> 77862 -r-xr-xr-x 3 root bin 613656 Sep 15 12:10 /bin/sh >> >> sh(1) also attests to this. > > Thanks but I gave that for granted. My question was about not > exporting PS1 to subshells. In theory, it shouldn't be exported but > it does get exported if one uses ENV=.kshrc vs sourcing .kshrc. You've said that you're now sourcing "$HOME/.kshrc" if "SKSH_VERSION" exists. You could add the sourcing of "$HOME/.shrc" if "$SH_VERSION" exists. Or you could export ENV and use a case-esac of this kind: case "$0" in *ksh) ... PS1='\u@\h:\w\$ ' ;; *sh) ... PS1='${USER}@${HOST}:${PWD}\$ ' ;; esac
Re: sysupgrade to 6.6 failed at comp66.tgz
This topic has been beat to death. deraadt@ and other have made it clear that if you do not install all the sets, you are running an unsupported configuration. It has been stated that if people keep bitching, they're just going to merge the release sets into one set. I like the fact that there are separate sets. A number of times I've had to squeeze an install onto a <2GB disk, and it was useful being able to select only the specific sets I wanted/needed, while at the same time acknowledging that it was indeed an unsupported configuration. If people are going to try and be edgelords by refusing to install all the sets, then it's up to them to maintain and diagnose their unsupported configuration. You can't seriously be calling "-x* -game*" an unsupported configuration ? Seems to me like a sensible thing to do on any box that's going to be headless for its entire life and only ever accessed via SSH (or text console at a push). It's an unsupported configuration.
Re: heavy CPU consumption and laggy/stuttering video on thinkpad x230
*David, sorry for the repeated message. I realized that reply only went out to you alone and not the mailing list :P Here's what I have tried: setup the xorg.conf file to tell it to use the intel driver instead of modesetting #/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-intel.conf Section "Device" Identifier "inteldrm" Driver "intel" EndSection modified login.conf and increased datasize-cur for staff class from 1536M to 4096M #/etc/login.conf staff:\ :datasize-cur=4096M:\ :datasize-max=infinity:\ :maxproc-max=512:\ :maxproc-cur=256:\ :ignorenologin:\ :requirehome@:\ :tc=default: Here are the new dmesg and Xorg.0.log: dmesg http://ix.io/21Ux Xorg.0.log: http://ix.io/21Uy noticed this in the beginning of the Xorg.0.log file. [ 266.934] (WW) checkDevMem: failed to open /dev/xf86 and /dev/mem (Operation not permitted) Check that you have set 'machdep.allowaperture=1' in /etc/sysctl.conf and reboot your machine refer to xf86(4) for details [ 266.934] linear framebuffer access unavailable terminal message from mpv when viewing a live video from twitch: https://pastebin.com/iRCAmq4r it mentioned something about libEGL warning: DRI3: Screen seems not DRI3 capable and basically I'm still having the same problem as before; stuttering, audio/video stopping every few seconds. and now when i play youtube videos with mpv, some seem to cause my x to crash and takes me immediately back to the xenodm login screen for some reason. not all videos, but many do. not sure if this was the case before i made these changes or perhaps the videos i did play prior to the changes were not as high quality as the ones i picked this time around? while the system does use intel drm instead of modesetting which was selected as default, none of these really fixed the issues I'm having though. on top of that, now some of the youtube videos i'm playing via mpv seems to be crashing X and taking me back to the xenodm login screen :( On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 11:38 AM David Trudgian wrote: > On 11/15/19 9:51 AM, Michael H wrote: > > *laptop: thinkpad x230, i7 processor, 8G ram, intel hd 4000 gpu* > > *New OpenBSD user with a fresh install.* > > I have a ThinkPad T430 which I'm now typing this on. It's an i5-3320m > (vs your i7-3520m) with 12GB RAM and the same HD4000 class graphics, so > it's pretty close. > > > My user account is created from the install process and has "staff" > class - > > though i haven't increased the datasize-cur, datasize-max for staff yet. > > Additionally, apmd has been set to -A as suggested by the faq. > > Am no expert, having only installed OpenBSD for the first time recently, > but played around with the staff settings when I couldn't use a browser > or play video at all well. Started with some values in a blog post on > the net from someone setting up a laptop, and ended up with: > > :datasize-cur=8192M:\ > :datasize-max=8192M:\ > :maxproc-max=4096:\ > :maxproc-cur=1024:\ > :openfiles-max=32768:\ > :openfiles-cur=16384:\ > > I have also set the following systcl values: > > # shared memory limits (browsers, etc.) > # max shared memory pages (*4096=8GB) > kern.shminfo.shmall=20971552 > # max shared memory segment size (2GiB) > kern.shminfo.shmmax=2147483647 > # max shared memory identifiers > kern.shminfo.shmmni=1024 > # max shared memory segments per process > kern.shminfo.shmseg=1024 > > # Other > kern.maxproc=32768 > kern.maxfiles=131072 > kern.maxvnodes=262144 > kern.bufcachepercent=50 > > The large files numbers here are due to using syncthing, and (I'd guess) > probably not generally advisable. The other stuff is quite likely to be > inadvisable or just plain wrong (due to my inexperience), but it has > given me a responsive system when using Firefox / Chromium, playing > video etc. > > > *Is this an issue with the system somehow using the modesetting driver > > instead of the inteldrm* *driver*? if so, why is that and how should i > best > > remedy this problem? I thought old thinkpads are generally fully > supported > > by OpenBSD? > > Although the login.conf and sysctl settings made the most difference for > me, I do have a smoother experience using the intel driver than the > modesetting one. It's especially noticable when playing video in > Firefox, and dragging the browser window around on my XFCE desktop. The > intel driver happily plays the video smoothly as the window moves > around. The modesetting driver wouldn't do that for me. > > I have the following at /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/intel.conf > > Section "Device" > Identifier "drm" > Driver "intel" > Option "TearFree" "true" > EndSection > > Hope some of this might be useful! > > Cheers, > > Dave Trudgian > > > > > >
heavy CPU consumption and laggy/stuttering video on thinkpad x230
*laptop: thinkpad x230, i7 processor, 8G ram, intel hd 4000 gpu* *New OpenBSD user with a fresh install.* My user account is created from the install process and has "staff" class - though i haven't increased the datasize-cur, datasize-max for staff yet. Additionally, apmd has been set to -A as suggested by the faq. Basically, whenever I play a video, CPU0, CPU2(shown in top) spike up to about 30-58%. The heatsink/fan/ventilation area of the laptop gets extremely hot. Videos buffer pretty slowly, and most importantly, when I am watching a live stream via players such as mpv, it's basically unwatchable because the video stops every 3-4 seconds. *Here is a log file of messages from mpv while playing a stream: * https://pastebin.com/3VRWgv3K *Here is a log file of messages from mpv while playing a youtube video: * https://pastebin.com/mn0wEXMf *here is my dmesg:* http://ix.io/21Bg *here is my Xorg.0.log:* http://ix.io/21Bb *Here are the firmwares that have been downloaded during installation:* intel-firmware-20190918v0 microcode update binaries for Intel CPUs inteldrm-firmware-20181218 firmware binary images for inteldrm(4) driver iwn-firmware-5.11p1 firmware binary images for iwn(4) driver uvideo-firmware-1.2p3 firmware binary images for uvideo(4) driver vmm-firmware-1.11.0p2 firmware binary images for vmm(4) driver *Is this an issue with the system somehow using the modesetting driver instead of the inteldrm* *driver*? if so, why is that and how should i best remedy this problem? I thought old thinkpads are generally fully supported by OpenBSD? Anyways, if anyone could help i would really appreciate it! *and if anyone is using this exact machine (thinkpad x230), could you also recommend some of the other optimizations you have done for this machine? * thanks in advance!
Re: CUPS and AVAHI (bloatware)
I don't like the idea of splitting packages, but I get weirded out when ghostscript (which DOES have a no_x11 variant) winds up pulling in dbus. I guess there's no escaping freedesktop.org. khm
Re: New question, do I really need a AAAA record?
On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 08:18:31PM +0200, Walter Alejandro Iglesias wrote: > > Sorry, I think I didn't formulate the question well. What I meant was, > do I need also a static ipv6 to be considered by big smtp servers as a > legal sender? > No. khm
Re: gmail and hotmail blocking mail sent from my IP
You're the last person anyone wants email advice from, Rupert. khm
Re: How do you do "family remote support"?
On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 05:22:29PM -0400, Rupert Gallagher wrote: > Never heard of whatismyip.org? > Sent from ProtonMail Mobile Never heard of NAT? Sent from QMail Stationary
Re: Current FreeBSD looking to switch to OpenBSD
On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 09:20:49PM -0400, Baho Utot wrote: > > I dual boot now between Win7 and FreeBSD > > on I lapdog I have 5 os on it and use grub2 to boot them > > How is this helpful? I don't know. Some people just like talking about their computers to strangers, I guess. khm
Re: usb MIDI keyboard
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 10:04:40AM +0200, Alexandre Ratchov wrote: > > > > I've installd midish, and attempted to configure it to take my keyboard > > input send it to the synthesizer. > > > > midish config: > > > > # Device 0: Arturia MKII > > dnew 0 "rmidi/0"ro > > > > # Device 1: fluidsynth > > dnew 1 "midithru/0" wo > > > > # Connect mkii to fluidsynth > > fnew fluidsynth > > fmap {any 0} {any 1} > > > > this is correct, but you need to run the "i" command to start it > processing. Then, it's supposed to work, assuming fluidsynth is > still running. Doh. Yes, that was it! Thanks! -davidc
usb MIDI keyboard
So, I'm attempting to set up my midi controller/keyboard. Since this is not itself a synthesizer, I need to hook it up to a software synthesizer via my computer. Thus far I've failed to get it working. My keyboard appears to be detected by kernel: umidi0 at uhub3 port 2 configuration 1 interface 1 "Arturia Arturia MiniLab mkII" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 6 umidi0: (genuine USB-MIDI) umidi0: out=1, in=1 midi0 at umidi0: ugen3 at uhub3 port 2 configuration 1 "Arturia Arturia MiniLab mkII" rev 2.00/1.00 addr 6 It appears that I'm recieving MIDI commands from the keyboard: $ hexdump -e '1/1 "%02x\n"' < /dev/rmidi0 90 3c 40 80 3c 00 I Can play MIDI files through synthesizer: $ fluidsynth -vs /usr/local/share/generaluser-gs/GeneralUser_GS.sf2 $ midiplay -vf midithru/0 Downloads/MIDI_sample.mid Playing Downloads/MIDI_sample.mid (8444 bytes) ... ^C I don't even know if this makes sense, but attempting to "play" the midi device doesn't seem to do anything when I play the keyboard: $ midiplay -vf midithru/0 /dev/rmidi0 ^C I've installd midish, and attempted to configure it to take my keyboard input send it to the synthesizer. midish config: # Device 0: Arturia MKII dnew 0 "rmidi/0"ro # Device 1: fluidsynth dnew 1 "midithru/0" wo # Connect mkii to fluidsynth fnew fluidsynth fmap {any 0} {any 1} However, after starting midish and fluidsynth...: $ fluidsynth -v -s -i -g 2 /usr/local/share/generaluser-gs/GeneralUser_GS.sf2 FluidSynth version 1.1.6 Copyright (C) 2000-2012 Peter Hanappe and others. Distributed under the LGPL license. SoundFont(R) is a registered trademark of E-mu Systems, Inc. fluidsynth: prog0 0 0 fluidsynth: prog1 0 0 fluidsynth: prog2 0 0 fluidsynth: prog3 0 0 fluidsynth: prog4 0 0 fluidsynth: prog5 0 0 fluidsynth: prog6 0 0 fluidsynth: prog7 0 0 fluidsynth: prog8 0 0 fluidsynth: prog9 128 0 fluidsynth: prog10 0 0 fluidsynth: prog11 0 0 fluidsynth: prog12 0 0 fluidsynth: prog13 0 0 fluidsynth: prog14 0 0 fluidsynth: prog15 0 0 $ midish -v > +pos 0 0 0 [:00]> +ready and connecting my keyboard...no sound is produced when I press the keys. I'm sure I'm just missing something obvious, but I'm stumped. I've just very recently switched to OpenBSD from Linux, where I had it working just fine. So it seems unlikely to me that the device itself is at fault. I'm not sure how to debug this or what else to try. Any suggestions? -davidc
Re: spamd and outlook.com
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 10:40:42PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: > On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 09:21:48 -0700 > Kurt H Maier <k...@sciops.net> wrote: > > > Greylisting is a hack, an abuse of a side-effect. Most such > > approaches have deleterious side effects. This particular side > > effect is why I don't like greylisting in general, even though it's > > fairly effective. > > Do you answer your phone before looking at the number/caller? In fact, there are some numbers I will not respond to (and these do not cause my phone to ring) and the rest I just answer. Just like having a blacklist I don't accept SMTP connections from at all, and the rest get processed normally. What I don't do it set an outgoing voicemail greeting informing correspondents that my time is more valuable than theirs, and if they want to contact me I have a list of hoops through which they must jump. That would make me an asshole. > It is not a hack at all. It is. SMTP is mandated to retry as a reliability factor, in a world with bad network connections and unreliable software. It is not mandated to retry so people can play cute games with the sending unit. I personally have no burning desire to see greylisting expunged from the internet, but I also have no sympathy for people who think it's a real solution to anything. If it works for someone, good for them, but I will never be even a little surprised when it becomes a pain in someone's ass. khm
Re: spamd and outlook.com
On Fri, Apr 21, 2017 at 04:02:20PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2017-04-21, Craig Skinnerwrote: > > Hi Markus, > > > > On Fri, 21 Apr 2017 11:25:14 +0200 Markus Rosjat wrote: > >> so if you have spamd in place in greylisting mode and you have > >> customers that work with people who use Office365 as a service you > >> will get calls that emails are delayed for a freaking long time > > > > Email is not instant messaging. > > > > Customers need educated to that fact. > > How do you educate them to that when they send to their gmail account > and it shows up on their phone within seconds? > > Sometimes there are delays but there's no reason for that to be the norm. > There's no reason email can't be instant messaging. Postmasters have spent decades training users that email just sucks and is necessarily unreliable. All they did was corral users toward services where they don't have to hear the administrators whining about how hard that job is. Greylisting is a hack, an abuse of a side-effect. Most such approaches have deleterious side effects. This particular side effect is why I don't like greylisting in general, even though it's fairly effective. khm
Re: Sony Vaio VPCSA
On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 09:22:42PM -0400, Nick Holland wrote: > Why exactly a laptop which only takes one disk would ship in RAID mode, > no idea, but I've seen it a number of times. Many of the laptops in this series could take up to four custom SSDs, which would be presented as a single drive via Intel's Matrix RAID stuff. Others were capable of taking an msata drive to use as cache in front of a spinning disk drive, which also required RAID mode to be enabled. khm
Re: Looking for replacement of thinkpad x201
On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 10:26:58AM +0100, Florian Ermisch wrote: > With the x260 support for a 16gb RAM stick (now DDR4) in the single slot is > now official > but it's not clear if you can have both a 2.5" > (7mm thick) drive and a m.2/NVMe SSD. > The option of having an m.2/_SATA_ SSD sure > is gone from what I've found. My X250 shipped from Lenovo with a 16GB DIMM and I put my own m.2 ssd in. I also configured it with the cache ssd, so right now I have a 512gb 2.5" SSD for openbsd, a 512gb m.2 SSD for 9front, and a 16gb m.2 SSD with a vfat filesystem that either one can mount. If you can get over the keyboard, x250 is a very capable machine. khm
Re: thinkpad X11 wheel emulation for middle button
On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 07:01:45PM +0200, Μάνος Πιτσιδιανάκης wrote: > I want to enable wheel emulation for the middle button in my Thinkpad > (T420s) I have this in my .xsession: xinput set-prop "/dev/wsmouse" "WS Pointer Wheel Emulation" 1 xinput set-prop "/dev/wsmouse" "WS Pointer Wheel Emulation Button" 2 xinput set-prop "/dev/wsmouse" "WS Pointer Wheel Emulation Axes" 6 7 4 5 This has worked for me on several machines, including the X250 I'm using to send this message. khm
Recommendation for firewall appliance running of and OpenBSD
Hi everyone, Can somebody please recommend me a firewall appliance that can run OpenBSD and pf, and can be upgradeable to the latest version? It would be a great plus if the appliance can also be configured as part of CARP firewall group. pfSense with FreeBSD doesn't cut it :)
Re: Full disk encryption by auto install
I'm sorry but I already reached the 2014 thread of the misc archives and have not found any discussion of this. Not sure we have the same definition of "recently" in this case :) Maybe Dekker or somebody can share the thread subject and I'll go from there. Otherwise, I'm open to further advise on this matter. Thanks again. -Original Message- From: "Dekker"Sent: â10/â18/â2016 11:18 AM To: "Tito Mari Francis Escaño" Cc: "misc@openbsd.org" Subject: Re: Full disk encryption by auto install This has been discussed previously... And recently. Search the mailing lists and you will find your answers. On Oct 17, 2016, at 23:12, "Tito Mari Francis Escaño" wrote: Hello everyone,Is full disk encryption via auto install script feasible? Has anyonetried this before? Maybe somebody can share pointers on what to watchout for if it's already been done.I was wondering how the full disk encryption password can be securedduring auto install. Maybe somebody can share their practices on this.Thanks so much.
Re: relayd.conf error
On 2016-10-16 01:47, trondd wrote: This has an error: listen 127.0.0.1 port 7000 This does not: listen on 127.0.0.1 port 7003 This has an error: forward with tls to 6697 The rest of your forward to lines do not. Tim. Sorry for late response, this mail server went down for a while, anyway, thanks Tim!
relayd.conf error
Hey misc@, I'm having issues with relayd.conf. this is the error I get when I try to run relayd: # rcctl -df start relayd doing _rc_parse_conf doing _rc_quirks relayd_flags empty, using default >< doing _rc_parse_conf /var/run/rc.d/relayd doing _rc_quirks doing rc_check relayd doing rc_pre host_dns: chat.freenode.net resolves to more than 1 hosts host_dns: irc.oftc.net resolves to more than 1 hosts /etc/relayd.conf:11: syntax error /etc/relayd.conf:12: protocol irctls defined twice /etc/relayd.conf:17: syntax error /etc/relayd.conf:18: protocol irctls defined twice /etc/relayd.conf:23: syntax error /etc/relayd.conf:24: protocol irctls defined twice /etc/relayd.conf:31: syntax error no actions, nothing to do doing _rc_rm_runfile (failed) # using this config: # cat /etc/relayd.conf protocol "irctls" { tcp { nodelay, sack } } table { chat.freenode.net } table { irc.oftc.net } table{ irc.swepipe.se } table { irc.krustykrab.restaurant } relay "freenode" { listen 127.0.0.1 port 7000 protocol "irctls" forward with tls to port 6697 } relay "oftc" { listen 127.0.0.1 port 7001 protocol "irctls" forward with tls to port 6697 } relay "efnet" { listen 127.0.0.1 port 7002 protocol "irctls" forward with tls to port 6697 } relay "volatile" { listen on 127.0.0.1 port 7003 protocol "irctls" forward with tls to 6697 } # by the way, this config used to work the last time I tried it on my last server, not this though, have relayd.conf syntax change in last update?
OpenBSD 6.0-stable smtpd queue encryption
Hello all, I recently upgraded from 5.9-stable to 6.0, then rebuilt from source to 6.0-stable. The platform is amd64. In my smtpd.conf file, when queue encryption is enabled, messages temporarily fail with this /var/log/maillog message: Sep 4 09:16:03 host smtpd[35452]: cf54bd77d0d1a6c4 smtp event=connected address= host= Sep 4 09:16:03 host smtpd[35452]: cf54bd77d0d1a6c4 smtp event=starttls ciphers="version=TLSv1.2, cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256, bits=128" Sep 4 09:16:03 host smtpd[35452]: cf54bd77d0d1a6c4 smtp event=authentication user= result=ok Sep 4 09:16:04 host smtpd[35452]: cf54bd77d0d1a6c4 smtp event=message msgid=1f6136ab from=<> to=<> size=461 ndest=1 proto=ESMTP Sep 4 09:16:04 host smtpd[35452]: mda event=delivery evpid=1f6136ab3d1fbaa5 from=<> to=<> user= method=maildir delay=1s result=TempFail stat=Cannot get message fd Sep 4 09:16:13 host smtpd[35452]: mda event=delivery evpid=1f6136ab3d1fbaa5 from=<> to=<> user= method=maildir delay=10s result=TempFail stat=Cannot get message fd The issue occured under 6.0 release and stable. By disabling queue encryption, the messages are successfully delivered. I have also regenerated the queue encryption key but this does not change the behavior. The error is generated from mda.c but I'm not sure what causes fd == -1. Has anyone else experienced this issue? Regards, Harold Benfield
Re: OpenBSD on Mikrotik/RouterBoard hardware ?
Hi Stuart, Jakub , ... Stuart Henderson wrote : On 2016-05-21, Jakub Skrzypnikwrote: I'll be mostly interested in any efforts to keep OpenBSD on ARM based SOHO routers by MikroTik, like RB951G and its family. I don't think MikroTik have any ARM boxes. Like most of their smaller boxes (and many other small routers) the RB951G is a 32-bit MIPS74k design. Their bigger boxes (CCR) are Tilera Tile-GX designs. ARM hasn't been all that popular for router designs in general, Firebrick FB2700/FB6000 and the in-development Turris Omnia use them but I can't think of any others offhand. No ARM boxes indeed, :( . Does it really mean none of the Routerboard archs could be handled using an OpenBSD ? Maybe ( I try :) ) http://routerboard.com/RB1100AHx2 (using macppc or socppc) ? Christophe.
OpenBSD on Mikrotik/RouterBoard hardware ?
Hello all, My old companion, OpenBSD router/firewall (Intel Atom based and 5 Gigabit Intel network interfaces) died 2 weeks ago ... (Really think motherbord is dead :( ). I temporary replaced it by an unused old workstation based on AMD64x2 processor, 4GB Ram, and with a (unique) Realtek Gigabit card (I use vlan for routing). Installed it with OpenBSD 5.9 amd64, and works pretty well, but seems to be difficult for this hardware to handle load. So I try to get a better hardware. Context : Optic fiber with 200Mbits/s DL, 50Mbits/s UL came to home this week (Tuesday) replacing 2 DSL connections. (that I keep for now : network throughput is somewhat ridiculous compared to Optic fiber, but stability is really great : being an homeworker, Internet uptime is a prime goal, despite the throughput). About 20 VLAN to handle ... and for most of them, PF rules apply. Compared to delivered "router" from ISP (SFR in France, "NB6V box" for those who know this provider), this temporary "router" seems to lack of CPU/network interrupts while downloading at high speed (above 10 MBytes/s) on WAN. ping on other hosts drastically increases (+50~200ms based from 4~10 ms when link is not heavily used) while OpenBSD tries to route/firewall/nat the WAN traffic. I already used Routerboards/RouterOS for several customers : works pretty great while using high throughput Internet connections. Customer's need is achieved for all cases, but the inside RouterOS doesn't feat my needs. (IPv6 policy based routing, and IPv6 NPT for instance). About hardware : RB2011 (XXX) or RB3011 (XXX) can, I think, match my needs. About software : OpenBSD stands out for a while for being my privileged OS for a router/firewall, and clearly feats my needs while it's simple to handle some particular cases ... (compared to a Linux based router for instance). Is there any one who tried this hardware/software association (excepting the RB600A/soppc) ? If not, what's the best hardware you know to operate an OpenBSD router with high throughput networks and many (about 450~500, including bridge/tag rules) PF rules ? Best CPU, best known network driver (handling inside hardware implementations), and so on ... Thanks for reading :) . Christophe.
Re: OpenBSD 5.[8-9] and Quagga rip(ng)d ?
Hello, Jeremie Courreges-Anglas wrote : Thanks, will try this. This is the quagga configure script, right ? Yes. The patch should be applied from the ports tree: cd /usr/ports/net/quagga patch < /path/to/diff make clean repackage reinstall Just done, and just works ! Jeremie, you're impressive ! :) and one more time I'd like to thank you ! Christophe.
Re: OpenBSD 5.[8-9] and Quagga rip(ng)d ?
Hi Jeremie :) Jeremie Courreges-Anglas wrote : Try the following diff Thanks, will try this. This is the quagga configure script, right ?
OpenBSD 5.[8-9] and Quagga rip(ng)d ?
Hello there, (don't really know if it is misc@ or tech@ , sorry :) ). Upgrading and old 4.8 (quagga running) OpenBSD to 5.9 was "in fine" quite easy . copied /etc/hostname.* from old to new => OK /etc/mygate, the same. => OK /etc/pf.conf , only two rules to adapt (from about 1000) => OK. The only problem I encounter is quagga package : It was in 0.99.16 (in 4.8 release) ; migrating in 0.99.24p1 (from OpenBSD packages for 5.9). This config speaks only RIPv2 and RIPng , but with quite specific configuration about route distribution : distribute only one prefix on one interface, distribute all except this on other interface, and so on ... The need is (for instance) : In RIPv2 : "redistribute connected" (for most of all network interfaces) but on interface vlan210 and vlan211 (only these) : "no redistribute 172.18.1.0/24" "no redistribute 172.18.8.0/23" but "redistribute 172.18.0.0/16" acheived in quagga/vtysh (while using 4.8 obsd and 0.99.16 quagga) by : _ router rip version 2 timers basic 60 120 60 redistribute connected network trunk0 network vlan210 network vlan211 network vlan212 network vlan3 network vlan200 network vlan201 network vlan202 [...] network vlan255 [...] distribute-list 11 out vlan210 distribute-list 11 out vlan211 distance 10 ! access-list 11 remark Filter routing announces on only local network (for vlan21[01]) access-list 11 deny 172.18.1.0 0.0.0.255 access-list 11 deny 172.18.8.0 0.0.1.255 access-list 11 permit 172.18.0.0 0.0.255.255 access-list 11 deny any If using 5.9 obsd and 0.99.24p1 quagga absolutely nothing works about RIPv2 : quagga's ripd complains about (on all network interfaces) : RIP: can't setsockopt IP_ADD_MEMBERSHIP Can't assign requested address Tried to implement OpenBSD's ripd, but can't find a way to restrict output updates for one or seveval network interfaces (meaning "don't redistribute this prefix on this interface"). This ends with a syntax error (and while browsing man and parse.yy of ripd, seems not possible). Any clue to solve this dilemma ? RIPng : it's about the same :( . Found a way by using "route6d -O 2a01:dead:bef1::/48,vlan210,vlan211 -O 2a01:dead:bef2::/48,vlan210,vlan211" but not realy as clever as "the good old" quagga was able to do ... Thanks for reading :) Christophe.
Re: pip for python3.4
Hello. Install via packages: $ sudo pkg_add -v ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/5.7/packages/amd64/py3-pip-1.5.6.tgz Regards On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Joseph Oficre <seran...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello! > How can i install pip for 3.4 python? I want to set up virtualenv and > stuff, but in packages just 2.7 version. > I've found out that pip3 can be installed from ports, but i want easy way > solution without ports. Is it possible or ports is only way? > -- Francisco Valladolid H. -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.
Re: Default OpenBSD browser
Hi. OpenBSD don't include browser by default, but my recommendation is always Mozilla Firefox. Regards On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 7:00 AM, Mohammad BadieZadegan mbzade...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, As we know the default X Window manager for OpenBSD is fvwm http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=fvwmsektion=1 and that is very usefull for initial using of OpenBSD. But Does OpenBSD have any WEB browser(Text or vs Image) by default? If have not, What is the best and lightest browser that usefull with fvwm? Thanks. -- Francisco Valladolid H. -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.
Re: OpenBSD 58-beta
5.8 Beta? You are running ... Regards. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:28 AM, Michael McConville mmcconvi...@mykolab.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 09:18:31PM +0500, dmitry.sensei wrote: First feature :) I can't load latest OpenBSD.iso. Unending stream Process (pid 1) got signal 4 This has been happening. There was a thread about it yesterday. Theo advised everyone on tech@ to just wait a few days. -- Francisco Valladolid H. -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.
Re: pre-orders for 5.7
congrats. On Mar 12, 2015 1:59 PM, Theo de Raadt dera...@cvs.openbsd.org wrote: We have activated pre-orders for the OpenBSD 5.7 CDs. See www.openbsd.org/57.html for more details about what is coming in this release; near the top there is a link to pre-order these CDs, which are a component of funding for the developments in OpenBSD... Release date will be May 1.
New Queue system
Where can find the docs for the new queue system in OpenBSD ? I remeber the ALTQ in the OpenBSD pf faq. Best Regards. -- Francisco Valladolid H. -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.
Re: New Queue system
Thank you. There are a docs or FAQ ? On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Christopher Zimmermann chr...@openbsd.org wrote: On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 12:01:17 -0500 Francisco Valladolid H. fic...@gmail.com wrote: Where can find the docs for the new queue system in OpenBSD ? pf.conf(5) search for QUEUEING -- http://gmerlin.de OpenPGP: http://gmerlin.de/christopher.pub F190 D013 8F01 AA53 E080 3F3C F17F B0A1 D44E 4FEE -- Francisco Valladolid H. -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.
Re: New Queue system
I'm reading now. Thank you. On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Christopher Zimmermann chr...@openbsd.org wrote: On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 12:27:00 -0500 Francisco Valladolid H. fic...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you. There are a docs or FAQ ? not that I know of. That's what I do: queue dsl on pppoe0 bandwidth 223K max 223K queue voip parent dsl qlimit 5 bandwidth 110K min 110K queue lowdelay parent dsl qlimit 5 bandwidth 50K min 40K queue std parent dsl qlimit 10bandwidth 50K default queue bulk parent dsl qlimit 50bandwidth 5K -- http://gmerlin.de OpenPGP: http://gmerlin.de/christopher.pub F190 D013 8F01 AA53 E080 3F3C F17F B0A1 D44E 4FEE -- Francisco Valladolid H. -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.
Re: Why doesn't GCM HTTPS work with nginx?
You could try using the cipher configuration recommended by Ivan Ristić / ssllabs.com, as described here: http://blog.ivanristic.com/2013/08/configuring-apache-nginx-and-openssl-for-forward-secrecy.html Restart nginx and check what cipher is being offered. The highest cipher supported by both client and server should be negotiated. You could also try compiling nginx with a newer version of OpenSSL as static libraries (or maybe upgrade and use LibreSSL?) and retry the above procedure. And also, check the about:config page in Firefox, make sure the maximum supported TLS version is 1.2 by changing security.tls.version.max to value 3. On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Ez Egy ezegyemailcim...@gmail.com wrote: Since these two are using GCM: www.ssllabs.com: ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 www.google.com: ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 We wanted to make our webserver HTTPS connection more secure (don't look at the self-signed certificate, that doesn't count right now..) We are using an OpenBSD 5.4 64bit, and the openssl ciphers command says that it supports the ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 cipher. On client side there is Firefox 30 at least. So here is how we setup the HTTPS server: # generate self signed certificate openssl genrsa -aes256 -out /etc/ssl/private/server.key 4096 openssl req -new -key /etc/ssl/private/server.key -out /etc/ssl/private/server.csr openssl x509 -sha512 -req -days 365 -in /etc/ssl/private/server.csr -signkey /etc/ssl/private/server.key -out /etc/ssl/server.crt The config: vi /etc/nginx/nginx.conf ... ssl_protocols TLSv1.2; ssl_ciphers ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; ssl_prefer_server_ciphers on; ... But Firefox says (I translated it from my language..): A connection to the www.foo.com is interrupted and ssllabs ( https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/ ) says: Assessment failed: Failed to communicate with the secure server Question: How can we set GCM in nginx? Why couldn't a fresh Firefox connect via HTTPS to foo.com (ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384,TLSv1.2)? It can connect to www.ssllabs.com via HTTPS (ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384,TLSv1.2) so maybe it's not a client side problem.. [user@localhost ~] openssl s_client -connect www.foo.com:443 CONNECTED(0003) depth=0 C = HU, CN = www.foo.com verify error:num=18:self signed certificate verify return:1 depth=0 C = HU, CN = www.foo.com verify return:1 --- Certificate chain 0 s:/C=HU/CN=www.foo.com i:/C=HU/CN=www.foo.com --- Server certificate -BEGIN CERTIFICATE- here goes the cert.. -END CERTIFICATE- subject=/C=HU/CN=www.foo.com issuer=/C=HU/CN=www.foo.com --- No client certificate CA names sent --- SSL handshake has read 2137 bytes and written 389 bytes --- New, TLSv1/SSLv3, Cipher is ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 Server public key is 4096 bit Secure Renegotiation IS supported Compression: NONE Expansion: NONE SSL-Session: Protocol : TLSv1.2
Re: Price of Unix
Searched on Google and found this: ftp://cm.bell-labs.com/who/dmr/licenses.html On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 8:47 AM, Danny dannydeb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, (A little off-topic) I am due to give a little computer history talk at our local high school. Can anyone remember how much ATT, Berkeley, SystemV or any other UNIX flavour cost in the 70's and 80's? Thank You Danny
Re: OpenBSD 5.4 as guest under VMWare Server 2 install fails
Hello, Further to my earlier very basic erro description, I was able to colelct some more debug messages from when the Kernel panic occurs. Could you give me some pointers of how to possibly fix this or how to file a bug report. Thanks. Here is the trace output: cpu_init(d0b73880,0,30,d0a466a0,0) at cpu_init+0x51 cpu_attach(d15ce000,d14e1800,d0c3bbe4,d043f1ab,0) at cpu_attach+0x11c config_attacg(d15ce000,d0a466a0,d0c3bbe4,d08a7510,0) at config_attachg+0x1bb acpimadt_attach(d15cc200,d1655240,d0c3bc74,d043f1ab,d08972d0) at acpimadt_attach+0x1eb config_attach(d15ce040,d0a476e0,d0c3bc74,d0897f80,0) at config attach+0x1bb acpi_attach(d15ce040,d15cc200,d0c3bd74,d043f1ab,0) at acpi_attach+0x52d config_attach(d15ce040,d0a475c0,d0c3bd74,d07def50,2d) at config_attach+0x1bb biosttach)d15ce000,d15ce040,d0c3be54,d043f1ab,0) at biosattach+0x6b6 config_attach(d15ce000,d0c3be54,d0602b80,30c0) at config_attach+0x1bb mainbus_attachh(0,d15ce000,0,d0a44040,0) at mainbus_attach+0x4e config_attach(0,d0a44040,0,0,d0ab7a00) at config_attach+0x1bb config_rootfound(d0961f0c,0,0d042ff31,0) at config_rootfound+0x46 cpu_configure(d0b73880,1,1000,cff3f000,1) at cpu_configure+0x29 main(d02004f6,d02004fe,0,0,0) at main+0x3dd Here is the ps output: PID PPIDPGRPUID S FLAGS WAITCOMMAND * 0 -1 0 0 7 0x200 swapper -- nick * Nick H. wrote on Jan 26, 2014 [21:23, +0800] Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:23:03 +0800 (SGT) From: Nick H. nh.mailingl...@beo.im To: misc@openbsd.org Subject: OpenBSD 5.4 as guest under VMWare Server 2 install fails Hello, I tried installing OpenBSD 5.4 as a guest OS in a VMWare Server 2 (yes, old platform) and it fails early on during the install process. Since the VMWare console doesn't allow me to copypaste the output, I took two screenshots (as per attachment but not sure if this lost support attachments). Anyway, the final message on screen is: cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) fatal protection fault (4) in supervisor mode trap type 4 code 0 eip d04a4968 cs eflags 10202 cr2 0 cpl 0 panic: trap type 4, code=0, pc=d04a4968 I first noticed this behavior when I tried installing OpenBSD 5.3. I then tried to install OpenBSD 5.2, which worked like a charm. The dmesg of the running OpenBSD 5.2 under VMWare Server 2 follows at the end. I am wondering if you could give me pointers as to why the install fails. -- nick +++dmesg of OpenBSD 5.2 OpenBSD 5.2 (GENERIC) #278: Wed Aug 1 10:04:16 MDT 2012 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3615QM CPU @ 2.30GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2.31 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,NXE,LONG,SSE3,SSSE3,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,LAHF real mem = 536342528 (511MB) avail mem = 516718592 (492MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 07/29/08, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd780, SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xe4010 (45 entries) bios0: vendor Phoenix Technologies LTD version 6.00 date 07/29/2008 bios0: VMware, Inc. VMware Virtual Platform acpi0 at bios0: rev 2 acpi0: sleep states S0 S1 S4 S5 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP BOOT APIC MCFG SRAT acpi0: wakeup devices PCI0(S3) USB_(S1) P2P0(S3) S1F0(S3) S2F0(S3) S3F0(S3) S4F0(S3) S5F0(S3) S6F0(S3) S7F0(S3) S8F0(S3) S9F0(S3) Z00P(S3) Z00Q(S3) Z00R(S3) Z00S(S3) Z00T(S3) Z00U(S3) Z00V(S3) Z00W(S3) Z00X(S3) Z00Y(S3) Z00Z(S3) Z010(S3) Z011(S3) Z012(S3) Z013(S3) Z014(S3) Z015(S3) Z016(S3) Z017(S3) Z018(S3) Z019(S3) Z01A(S3) Z01B(S3) P2P1(S3) S1F0(S3) S2F0(S3) S3F0(S3) S4F0(S3) S5F0(S3) S6F0(S3) S7F0(S3) S8F0(S3) S9F0(S3) Z00P(S3) Z00Q(S3) Z00R(S3) Z00S(S3) Z00T(S3) Z00U(S3) Z00V(S3) Z00W(S3) Z00X(S3) Z00Y(S3) Z00Z(S3) Z010(S3) Z011(S3) Z012(S3) Z013(S3) Z014(S3) Z015(S3) Z016(S3) Z017(S3) Z018(S3) Z019(S3) Z01A(S3) Z01B(S3) P2P2(S3) S1F0(S3) S2F0(S3) S3F0(S3) S4F0(S3) S5F0(S3) S6F0(S3) S7F0(S3) S8F0(S3) S9F0(S3) Z00P(S3) Z00Q(S3) Z00R(S3) Z00S(S3) Z00T(S3) Z00U(S3) Z00V(S3) Z00W(S3) Z00X(S3) Z00Y(S3) Z00Z(S3) Z010(S3) Z011(S3) Z012(S3) Z013(S3) Z014(S3) Z015(S3) Z016(S3) Z017(S3) Z018(S3) Z019(S3) Z01A(S3) Z01B(S3) P2P3(S3) S1F0(S3) S2F0(S3) S3F0(S3) S4F0(S3) S5F0(S3) S6F0! (S3) S7F0(S3) S8F0(S3) S9F0(S3) Z00P(S3) Z00Q(S3) Z00R(S3) Z00S(S3) Z00T(S3) Z00U(S3) Z00V(S3) Z00W(S3) Z00X(S3) Z00Y(S3) Z00Z(S3) Z010(S3) Z011(S3) Z012(S3) Z013(S3) Z014(S3) Z015(S3) Z016(S3) Z017(S3) Z018(S3) Z019(S3) Z01A(S3) Z01B(S3) PE40(S3) S1F0(S3) PE50(S3) S1F0(S3) PE60(S3) S1F0(S3) PE70(S3) S1F0(S3) PE80(S3) S1F0(S3) PE90(S3) S1F0(S3) PEA0(S3) S1F0(S3) PEB0(S3) S1F0(S3) PEC0(S3) S1F0(S3) PED0(S3) S1F0(S3) PEE0(S3) S1F0(S3) PE41(S3) S1F0(S3) PE42(S3) S1F0(S3) PE43(S3) S1F0(S3) PE44(S3) S1F0(S3) PE45(S3) S1F0(S3) PE46(S3) S1F0(S3) PE47(S3) S1F0(S3) PE51(S3) S1F0(S3) PE52(S3) S1F0(S3) PE53(S3) S1F0(S3) PE54(S3) S1F0(S3) PE55(S3) S1F0(S3
OpenBSD 5.4 as guest under VMWare Server 2 install fails
Hello, I tried installing OpenBSD 5.4 as a guest OS in a VMWare Server 2 (yes, old platform) and it fails early on during the install process. Since the VMWare console doesn't allow me to copypaste the output, I took two screenshots (as per attachment but not sure if this lost support attachments). Anyway, the final message on screen is: cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) fatal protection fault (4) in supervisor mode trap type 4 code 0 eip d04a4968 cs eflags 10202 cr2 0 cpl 0 panic: trap type 4, code=0, pc=d04a4968 I first noticed this behavior when I tried installing OpenBSD 5.3. I then tried to install OpenBSD 5.2, which worked like a charm. The dmesg of the running OpenBSD 5.2 under VMWare Server 2 follows at the end. I am wondering if you could give me pointers as to why the install fails. -- nick +++dmesg of OpenBSD 5.2 OpenBSD 5.2 (GENERIC) #278: Wed Aug 1 10:04:16 MDT 2012 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3615QM CPU @ 2.30GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 2.31 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,NXE,LONG,SSE3,SSSE3,CX16,SSE4.1,SSE4.2,POPCNT,LAHF real mem = 536342528 (511MB) avail mem = 516718592 (492MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 07/29/08, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xfd780, SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xe4010 (45 entries) bios0: vendor Phoenix Technologies LTD version 6.00 date 07/29/2008 bios0: VMware, Inc. VMware Virtual Platform acpi0 at bios0: rev 2 acpi0: sleep states S0 S1 S4 S5 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP BOOT APIC MCFG SRAT acpi0: wakeup devices PCI0(S3) USB_(S1) P2P0(S3) S1F0(S3) S2F0(S3) S3F0(S3) S4F0(S3) S5F0(S3) S6F0(S3) S7F0(S3) S8F0(S3) S9F0(S3) Z00P(S3) Z00Q(S3) Z00R(S3) Z00S(S3) Z00T(S3) Z00U(S3) Z00V(S3) Z00W(S3) Z00X(S3) Z00Y(S3) Z00Z(S3) Z010(S3) Z011(S3) Z012(S3) Z013(S3) Z014(S3) Z015(S3) Z016(S3) Z017(S3) Z018(S3) Z019(S3) Z01A(S3) Z01B(S3) P2P1(S3) S1F0(S3) S2F0(S3) S3F0(S3) S4F0(S3) S5F0(S3) S6F0(S3) S7F0(S3) S8F0(S3) S9F0(S3) Z00P(S3) Z00Q(S3) Z00R(S3) Z00S(S3) Z00T(S3) Z00U(S3) Z00V(S3) Z00W(S3) Z00X(S3) Z00Y(S3) Z00Z(S3) Z010(S3) Z011(S3) Z012(S3) Z013(S3) Z014(S3) Z015(S3) Z016(S3) Z017(S3) Z018(S3) Z019(S3) Z01A(S3) Z01B(S3) P2P2(S3) S1F0(S3) S2F0(S3) S3F0(S3) S4F0(S3) S5F0(S3) S6F0(S3) S7F0(S3) S8F0(S3) S9F0(S3) Z00P(S3) Z00Q(S3) Z00R(S3) Z00S(S3) Z00T(S3) Z00U(S3) Z00V(S3) Z00W(S3) Z00X(S3) Z00Y(S3) Z00Z(S3) Z010(S3) Z011(S3) Z012(S3) Z013(S3) Z014(S3) Z015(S3) Z016(S3) Z017(S3) Z018(S3) Z019(S3) Z01A(S3) Z01B(S3) P2P3(S3) S1F0(S3) S2F0(S3) S3F0(S3) S4F0(S3) S5F0(S3) S6F0! (S3) S7F0(S3) S8F0(S3) S9F0(S3) Z00P(S3) Z00Q(S3) Z00R(S3) Z00S(S3) Z00T(S3) Z00U(S3) Z00V(S3) Z00W(S3) Z00X(S3) Z00Y(S3) Z00Z(S3) Z010(S3) Z011(S3) Z012(S3) Z013(S3) Z014(S3) Z015(S3) Z016(S3) Z017(S3) Z018(S3) Z019(S3) Z01A(S3) Z01B(S3) PE40(S3) S1F0(S3) PE50(S3) S1F0(S3) PE60(S3) S1F0(S3) PE70(S3) S1F0(S3) PE80(S3) S1F0(S3) PE90(S3) S1F0(S3) PEA0(S3) S1F0(S3) PEB0(S3) S1F0(S3) PEC0(S3) S1F0(S3) PED0(S3) S1F0(S3) PEE0(S3) S1F0(S3) PE41(S3) S1F0(S3) PE42(S3) S1F0(S3) PE43(S3) S1F0(S3) PE44(S3) S1F0(S3) PE45(S3) S1F0(S3) PE46(S3) S1F0(S3) PE47(S3) S1F0(S3) PE51(S3) S1F0(S3) PE52(S3) S1F0(S3) PE53(S3) S1F0(S3) PE54(S3) S1F0(S3) PE55(S3) S1F0(S3) PE56(S3) S1F0(S3) PE57(S3) S1F0(S3) PE61(S3) S1F0(S3) PE62(S3) S1F0(S3) PE63(S3) S1F0(S3) PE64(S3) S1F0(S3) PE65(S3) S1F0(S3) PE66(S3) S1F0(S3) PE67(S3) S1F0(S3) PE71(S3) S1F0(S3) PE72(S3) S1F0(S3) PE73(S3) S1F0(S3) PE74(S3) S1F0(S3) PE75(S3) S1F0(S3) PE76(S3) S1F0(S3) PE77(S3) S1F0(S3) PE81(S3) S1F0(S3) PE82(S3) S1F0(S3) PE83(S3) S1! F0(S3) PE84(S3) S1F0(S3) PE85(S3) S1F0(S3) PE86(S3) S1F0(S3) P! E87(S3) S1F0(S3) PE91(S3) S1F0(S3) PE92(S3) S1F0(S3) PE93(S3) S1F0(S3) PE94(S3) S1F0(S3) PE95(S3) S1F0(S3) PE96(S3) S1F0(S3) PE97(S3) S1F0(S3) PEA1(S3) S1F0(S3) PEA2(S3) S1F0(S3) PEA3(S3) S1F0(S3) PEA4(S3) S1F0(S3) PEA5(S3) S1F0(S3) PEA6(S3) S1F0(S3) PEA7(S3) S1F0(S3) PEB1(S3) S1F0(S3) PEB2(S3) S1F0(S3) PEB3(S3) S1F0(S3) PEB4(S3) S1F0(S3) PEB5(S3) S1F0(S3) PEB6(S3) S1F0(S3) PEB7(S3) S1F0(S3) SLPB(S4) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: apic clock running at 65MHz ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 1 pa 0xfec0, version 11, 24 pins acpimcfg0 at acpi0 addr 0xe000, bus 0-255 acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpicpu0 at acpi0 acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT1 not present acpibat1 at acpi0: BAT2 not present acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online acpibtn0 at acpi0: SLPB bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 0xc8000/0x1e00! 0xca000/0x1000 0xdc000/0x4000! 0xe4000/0x4000! vmt0 at mainbus0 pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82443BX AGP rev 0x01 ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel 82443BX AGP rev 0x01 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 piixpcib0 at pci0 dev 7 function 0 Intel 82371AB PIIX4 ISA rev 0x08 pciide0 at pci0 dev 7 function 1 Intel
Re: OpenBSD VPS Providers
Hi. The following list of ISP also provide OpenBSD. http://www.bsdvm.com http://www.arpnetworks.com Regards. On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 5:11 AM, Marko M. ma...@bsdserbia.org wrote: Hi, You may try: https://www.transip.eu They offer both OpenBSD and FreeBSD. I have been using their VPS with FreeBSD for a couple of years. They offer rather cheap and really good service. On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Some Developer someukdevelo...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I'm looking for a VPS provider that supports OpenBSD (preferably the latest version). I've obviously found a few but what I really want is easy to create and destroy instances in the same way you can on Digital Ocean and Linode (which I use for my Linux boxes). An API for automatic creation and destruction of virtual machines would be fantastic and if I was being really picky a European location for the servers. Does anyone have any suggestions and recommendations? I'd rather use a provider that has some positive customer reviews from this list. Some of the available options from a Google search look a bit shabby (I could be completely wrong and they are excellent companies I'm just basing it on what I can see). I'll be using this box as a VPN server. -- Francisco Valladolid H. -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.
Re: Best OpenBSD cloud hosting?
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Beto b...@compumundohypermegared.org wrote: Hi, arpnetworks is other option. arpnetwork is simple VM, no cloud. I think no support for OpenBSD cloud at this time Regards 2013/10/8 openda...@hushmail.com Hi, Can anyone recommend a decent OpenBSD cloud hosting provider? Digital Ocean looks nice but they don't yet offer OpenBSD ( https://digitalocean.uservoice.com/forums/136585-digital-ocean/suggestions/3232571-support-bsd-os- ). There's ARP Networks and TransIP but they don't offer clouds. Thanks. O.D. -- Francisco Valladolid H. -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.
Re: Best OpenBSD cloud hosting?
I've got a few OpenBSD boxes running at TransIP, very satisfied about it. QEMU/KVM based, and they recently added a new feature, 'private networks' between two or more VPS's. It might not explicitly have the label 'cloud' attached to it, but still very nice; and quite cheap as well. On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 8:45 PM, Antoine Jacoutot ajacou...@bsdfrog.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 02:31:02PM -0400, Jiri B wrote: What about Joyent? They ported KVM from Linux to Solaris and they run it under zones. I would trust more Solaris based solution they some hackish Linux setups where every VM runs under root :) I personally use SmartOS and while it is an awesome system, OpenBSD does not always behave perfectly well under Solaris KVM. I've had several vdisk related issues. In my experience, Linux KVM is a better container for our OS. -- Antoine
Re: Network appliance recomendation.
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 2:51 AM, Maurice Janssen maur...@z74.net wrote: On 08/09/13 17:05, Francisco Valladolid H. wrote: Hi folks. Currently I have a Wireless network serving in my town using a small form factor (mini-itx) PC with OpenBSD for pf,squid, and dns cache. I need recommendations for a network appliance in rack mode with flash storage and five rj45 ports. Can anyone recommended a solution for my needs ? Axiomtek NA-320R might be an alternative. Rack mount, 6 gbit ports, CF-storage and Atom 1.6 GHz CPU. Thank you Maurice, excellente recomendation. Maurice -- Francisco Valladolid H. -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.
Re: Network appliance recomendation.
On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 5:15 PM, Paul de Weerd we...@weirdnet.nl wrote: On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 08:09:02PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: | These can be hard to get via the usual axiomtek reseller channels, but these are | the same thing with a different front plate: | | https://shop.bytemine.net/startseitenprodukte/bytemine-openbsd-appliance-6a16e.html | https://shop.bytemine.net/startseitenprodukte/bytemine-appliance-6a16er.html I have the 6a16e (i.e. the non-rackmountable version) and have been very happy with it. Highly recommmend it! Thank you Paul. This model is very expensive plus the shipping and import duties to Mexico.. Regards Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd -- [++-]+++.+++[---].+++[+ +++-].++[-]+.--.[-] http://www.weirdnet.nl/ -- Francisco Valladolid H. -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.
Network appliance recomendation.
Hi folks. Currently I have a Wireless network serving in my town using a small form factor (mini-itx) PC with OpenBSD for pf,squid, and dns cache. I need recommendations for a network appliance in rack mode with flash storage and five rj45 ports. Can anyone recommended a solution for my needs ? I'm disappointing using other network solutions with proprietary brands in the market. Best Regards. P.S sorry for my bad english. -- Francisco Valladolid H. -- http://blog.bsdguy.org - Jesus Christ follower.
Re: Network appliance recomendation.
I think mini-ITX boards are ok, but I need a integrated solutions. Soekris is fine but lack of characteristics. 1gb rj45 port, etc. it http://www.calyptix.com/portfolio/ae1200/ look fine. Regards. On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Mikkel C. Simonsen m...@post5.tele.dk wrote: Francisco Valladolid H. wrote: I need recommendations for a network appliance in rack mode with flash storage and five rj45 ports. RJ45 ports? 100Mbit? Gigabit? Can anyone recommended a solution for my needs ? If 100Mbit is fine, go with a Mini-ITX board and a 4-port Ethernet card in the PCI slot. Best regards, Mikkel C. Simonsen -- Francisco Valladolid H. -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.
Re: Network appliance recomendation.
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Hermes Ojeda Ruiz hermes@gmail.com wrote: I've used the Soekris brand. http://soekris.com/, but they are a little expensive. (In México taxes are a big problem). Yes, taxes and import duties are a pain. I have a pair of Soekris 4501 running OpenBSD 4.6 yet! In two months I'll test ALIX appliances: http://pcengines.ch/alix.htm I don't found rack cases for this cards. They are cheaper, but I don't know about their performance. The throughput in this nic is low ~ 50mbps I'm watching http://www.liantec.com/product/emboard/EMB-5842 look fine and have a high throughput. On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Francisco Valladolid H. fic...@gmail.comwrote: Hi folks. Currently I have a Wireless network serving in my town using a small form factor (mini-itx) PC with OpenBSD for pf,squid, and dns cache. I need recommendations for a network appliance in rack mode with flash storage and five rj45 ports. Can anyone recommended a solution for my needs ? I'm disappointing using other network solutions with proprietary brands in the market. Best Regards. P.S sorry for my bad english. -- Francisco Valladolid H. -- http://blog.bsdguy.org - Jesus Christ follower. -- Hermes Ojeda Ruiz LogicalBricks Solutions http://logicalbricks.com -- Francisco Valladolid H. -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.
Re: Network appliance recomendation.
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 8:25 PM, William Ahern will...@25thandclement.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 06:50:19PM -0500, Francisco Valladolid H. wrote: On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Hermes Ojeda Ruiz hermes@gmail.com wrote: I've used the Soekris brand. http://soekris.com/, but they are a little expensive. (In M?xico taxes are a big problem). Yes, taxes and import duties are a pain. I have a pair of Soekris 4501 running OpenBSD 4.6 yet! In two months I'll test ALIX appliances: http://pcengines.ch/alix.htm I don't found rack cases for this cards. Try netgate.com. They resell and repackage from various vendors, including PC Engines. They sell ALIX boards in 1U cases. Good choice.! I need to upgrade my ALIX board 'cause it's too slow for IPSec, even with the VPN card. fine. Intel just came out with new Atom chips with ECC support. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813182782 Thank you for the link. It might be easier and cheaper to just toss that into a 1U case. -- Francisco Valladolid H. -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.
Re: who is using obsd
On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 5:36 PM, Alvaro Mantilla Gimenez alv...@alvaromantilla.com wrote: 2013/5/13 Chris Cappuccio ch...@nmedia.net Salim Shaw [salims...@vfemail.net] wrote: OpenBSD is a server/router/network service OS, it's not designed for desktops. OpenBSD is the pre-eminent platform for Firewalling, IPsec, IPv6. Trying to shove OpenBSD onto the desktop is the ultimate case of square peg/round hole. Salim, that's quite strange. OpenBSD has worked on my Sun 4/110 desktop since 1995. And more recently, I've been using it on i386 and later even amd64 machines, as a desktop environment! It could just be some kind of hallucination. You know, I had this one dream of being tied up and injected with sodium pentothal... +1 You can use OpenBSD in desktop environment, sure, common tasks as; sending emails, document processing, games, browse internet, etc. OpenBSD sometime lacks of resources for run natively flash plugins, java efficiently and support for read/write NTFS filesystem from Windows; but, if you not need it, OpenBSD do a good job. Regards. -- Francisco Valladolid H. -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.
obsd 4.3 NFS mount hangs server, umount -f fails
What can be done when the NFS mount is hanged ?
Re: Absolute OpenBSD 2nd Edition pre-orders are up.
Just order today! Best regards. On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 10:46 PM, Pablo Velasco Fernández warlock...@gmail.com wrote: I ordered mine yesterday too. :D On Mar 17, 2013 8:38 AM, Brandon Tanner thelette...@gmail.com wrote: I got mine ordered today, when do you think it will ship from NoStarch Press? On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Michael W. Lucas mwlu...@blackhelicopters.org wrote: On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:59:28PM -0600, Austin Hook wrote: Pre-orders for the 2nd Edition of Michael Lucas' Absolute OpenBSD are now up on the main order website. Expected to arrive about the same time we start shipping pre-orders for OpenBSD 5.3. Pre-orders for the latter will show up pretty soon as well. No special early discount, but the difference does go to support the project. Or, if you need to pinch those pennies (before they are discontinued), take the early order path suggested by Michael's website, rather than through the big online monopoly. He gets a bit more that way. You thought you knew all there is to learn in an introductory book to OpenBSD? You might be surprised. A reference when you need it, and worth a skim even just to see how OpenBSD has evolved over the last 10 years, if you have the original volume. http://www.openbsd.org/books.html#B10 And follow the links. Excellent, Austin! Glad you got them. Linked from the book page. And thanks for the plug. Before anyone asks: I don't really care where you buy it. ==ml -- Michael W. Lucas - mwlu...@michaelwlucas.com, Twitter @mwlauthor http://www.MichaelWLucas.com/, http://blather.MichaelWLucas.com/ Latest book: Absolute OpenBSD 2/e - http://www.nostarch.com/openbsd2e coupon code ILUVMICHAEL gets you 30% off helps me. -- Francisco Valladolid H. -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.
Re: Terminal emulators can't read .profile
Hi On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 11:40 PM, Sachidananda Urs sac@gmail.comwrote: On 12/10/2012 04:32 PM, Feng Zhou wrote: Hi, I was trying out st and urxvt as a replacement for xterm, and it turned out that all the settings I put in ~/.profile are not recognised when I use either st or urxvt. Is this a bug or an expected behaviour that I need to do something about to use other terminals? The shell was not changed, it was the default ksh. At first I thought it was a problem of st, but it happened to urxvt too. So I thought it's best to ask here. Any help is much appreciated. You maybe need run $ urxvt -ls or put URxvt*loginShell: true in .Xdefaults file. Regards. Try putting them in .kshrc, this the file that is read by terminal emulators. -- Francisco Valladolid H. -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.
Re: Unified BSD?
- Then came the Unix wars, where ATT sued BSDI (a commercial variant that no longer exists) over perceived copyright infringement. The free BSDs weren't really directly involved, but the suit would have been just as relevant, and people were worried. This was the time that Linux was in the ascendancy. Users had the choice of a free GPL system or one which might land them in trouble. Most chose the safe option. I know the view from Germany as to why Linux was taken up so readily, most people read about it later, repeat relayed wisdom, but I was here know: ( BTW though I'm British but in Germany, Germany is far more signifcant in this regard than eg UK of GB, eg Linux mag. has 3 times the circulation in Germany as UK, whenever I'm in UK I never see Linux mags in book shops etc ( of course no BSD) just MS, whereas here in Munich there's some choice of Linux mags, even in food supermarket (Tengelmann) I recall. Most newbies were clueless or didnt give a toss about FSF v BSD licensing then (or now), or some firm called ATT across the pond breathing hot air. (Only us BSD people cared, not many of us). Old Unix hands like me were earning good money fully employed doing consultancy, (plenty of work then). Although I thought I maybe should help spread BSD, considered knocking out batches of 30/40+ floppies per mail order, it was Very unattractive, labour intensive formatting, dd'ing, checking for media errors, at a very low pay rate compare with mich higher paid more interesting consultancy. Plus also if one did that under German tax law (I checked with my Steuer Berater = accountant I recall) it would be subject to Gewerbe Steuer, not just for the trivial amount earned on floppies shipped, but could imperil imposing the extra tax on the Whole of consultancy income, Very Expensive mistake to risk that. So I didn't others didnt; most other consultant friends here were also happy earning at commercial rates, didn't want to touch floppy reproduction. BUT ... meanwhile there was a whole new load of students on low or no income, no tax issues to worry about, young student mode enthusiasm time to evangalise their new free software ... Linux ... so one saw adverts for stack of floppies in eg CT Magazine (http://www.heise.de/ct/ others. then CDs came on the scene, even easier for the students to push out again I wondered whether I should push out some BSD CDs, again colleagues were too busy to reduce their consultancy income by doing grunt disk jockey work producing mailing CDROMs at cheap prices. Again I was scared of German Gewerbe Steuer ... So I decided to just do software bundling (safe consultancy work) let a commercial firm do manufacture, bulk distrib, German language correspondence, German gewerbe Steuer issues etc - Ughh) So I mastered a combination Live + Install FreeBSD CDROM years before freebsd.org did theirs, approached german Linux Mag Heise (I think) (English language, German based) BSD Mag (whatever, the one from Rosa Riebl) to see if anyone would bundle it stuck to front page of magazines (to really shift a lot have BSD make a big impact in the OS scene. I didnt get anywhere with that, but I got further with Dr Dobbs USA mag, negotiations were going OK, then they decided it would be too expensive to glue a CD on each cover, they just wanted to feature my CD in their library of CDs for sale ... at which point I lost interest cos: - It would fail to impact the market if not sent in bulk 1 per mag. (I'd have accepted very low payment for that, as it would have helped push BSD significantly) - If not on Mag. cover just in library for sale per individual order, I was scared of low sales, not worth the bother to polish the master maintain it maybe through new releases for low income. Actually, I still see a market opportunity for someone: For BSD (or Linux) shipped on memory sticks. But I wont touch that, especially not in Germany with this tax system, having to deal with thousands of customers at low profit per unit, plus a lot of german correspondence (German grammar not nice IMO) ... but its still a market BSD or Linux students could exploit (if not already ... I havent read CT mag ads. lately to know if it's being done). Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. Not: HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable.
Re: Unified BSD?
Hi, Reference: From: Johnny Billquist b...@update.uu.se Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:34:56 +0100 Message-id: 50a23e70.8010...@update.uu.se Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2012-11-13 11:45, Ignatios Souvatzis wrote: On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:08:08AM +0100, Joost van de Griek wrote: On 12 Nov 2012, at 21:37 , Robin Björklin robin.bjork...@gmail.com wrote: Am I bat crap crazy for thinking it could be good to merge the four largest BSD variants out there, take the best bits and pieces out of each and create a Unified BSD? You'd end up creating a fifth. At least a sixth, IIRC. You left out MirBSD from your distribution list. Also, you could argue that Minix, with its NetBSD compatibility, is a seventh and MacOS-X, with its partially (Free-/Net-)BSD compatible userland, an eighth. And what about 2BSD, BSD 3 and BSD 4 with all their releases? (And I assume that there was probably something that in retrospect would have been called 1BSD as well...) Johnny No they were sequential from same team, not later parallel forks. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text with . Send plain text. Not: HTML, multipart/alternative, base64, quoted-printable.
Re: How to delete this partial package?
Hi. you have to update your -current version of OpenBSD also. both kernel and system base. Regards. On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Philip Guenther guent...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Salil Wadnerkar rohsh...@gmail.com wrote: When I try to delete this partial package, I get these errors: ... File /usr/local/share/locale/en@quot/LC_MESSAGES/pkg.c8llMmPSGl does not exist Read failed: Input/output error at /usr/libdata/perl5/OpenBSD/md5.pm line 59 I checked the source code. It is some coe that adds a file into some data structure (most probably, it is finding out which files to delete) and it fails to do so because the file is no longer there. How do I get rid of this partial package? The error message Input/output error indicates that the error is for some other file which does exist but for which the kernel is reporting an I/O error. That suggests that you have some sort of disk problem. Has the kernel reported anything to dmesg? If dmesg doesn't show anything, then I would fsck all your filesystems and, if that doesn't find anything, do a read check by dd'ing the raw partitions to /dev/null and see what that turns up. Philip Guenther -- Francisco Valladolid H. -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.
Re: How to delete this partial package?
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 11:14 PM, Salil Wadnerkar rohsh...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Francisco, I am going to test my disk using Philip's suggestion. But, I am not sure I am following you. Are you suggesting me to update my current because this problem was found and fixed lately or you are just suggesting so because it's a good practice to keep our copy updated? I think, maybe the -current are outdated, OpenBSD use libraries from base for pkg_* Maybe there are a disk I/O problems, you can check this also. Regards. Thanks Salil On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Francisco Valladolid H. fic...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. you have to update your -current version of OpenBSD also. both kernel and system base. Regards. On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 10:31 PM, Philip Guenther guent...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:44 PM, Salil Wadnerkar rohsh...@gmail.com wrote: When I try to delete this partial package, I get these errors: ... File /usr/local/share/locale/en@quot/LC_MESSAGES/pkg.c8llMmPSGl does not exist Read failed: Input/output error at /usr/libdata/perl5/OpenBSD/md5.pm line 59 I checked the source code. It is some coe that adds a file into some data structure (most probably, it is finding out which files to delete) and it fails to do so because the file is no longer there. How do I get rid of this partial package? The error message Input/output error indicates that the error is for some other file which does exist but for which the kernel is reporting an I/O error. That suggests that you have some sort of disk problem. Has the kernel reported anything to dmesg? If dmesg doesn't show anything, then I would fsck all your filesystems and, if that doesn't find anything, do a read check by dd'ing the raw partitions to /dev/null and see what that turns up. Philip Guenther -- Francisco Valladolid H. -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower. -- Francisco Valladolid H. -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.
Excelente curso de Gestión al Cambio y Manejo de Conflictos
Si no puede visualizar correctamente este correo, le pedimos que lo arrastre a su Bandeja de Entrada Apreciable Ejecutivo: TIEM de México Empresa Líder en Capacitación y Actualización de Capital Humano Ponemos a su disposición este excelente curso denominado: Gestión al Cambio y Manejo de Conflictos Ciudad de México, el día 31 de Octubre de 2012 Inscríbase 5 días antes de la fecha del Curso y obtenga un descuento del 15% con Inversión Inmediata O bien, por cada dos participantes inscritos en tarifa de Inversión normal, el tercero es completamente gratis No deje pasar esta oportunidad y desarrolle al máximo las capacidades de todo su capital humano en beneficio de su empresa, negocio o dependencia. Entendemos la gestión de cambio organizacional como el proceso deliberadamente diseñado que mitigue los efectos no deseados de este mismo cambio y potencie las posibilidades de crear futuro en la organización, su gente y contexto. Así mismo, debemos comprender que los conflictos se originan en las diferencias entre las personas: diferencias de valores, de ideas, de intereses, de personalidad. Estas diferencias no son el problema, el verdadero problema es que el conflicto entre dos personas rompa el vínculo que los une, y rompa la capacidad de estar conectados. Un buen líder de proyecto debe saber que aunque dos personas no se gusten, se les debe ayudar a encontrar un vínculo en común, un objetivo compartido dentro del proyecto. Objetivo General del Curso: Al término del taller, el participante reconocerá los elementos clave para la aceptación del cambio como parte del día a día. Identificará las principales causas del conflicto así como las técnicas adecuadas para el manejo del mismo, reconociendo a la asertividad y la escucha activa y empática como herramientas útiles en el ámbito laboral. Dirigido a: Directores, gerentes, ejecutivos, empresarios, profesionales, jefes de área o departamento, supervisores, consultores, líderes de proyecto, vendedores profesionales y en general a todas aquellas personas que deseen conocer y mejorar sus habilidades, estilo y métodos de negociación y comunicación efectiva. Para mayor información, favor de responder este correo con los siguientes datos: Empresa: Nombre: Ciudad: Teléfono: O si lo prefiere comuníquese a los teléfonos: Del DF al 5611-0969 con 10 líneas Interior del País Lada sin Costo 01 800 900 TIEM (8436) Aceptamos todas las TDC y Débito. **Promoción: 3 meses sin Intereses pagando con American Express **Aplica solo con Inversión Normal ®Todos los Derechos Reservados ©2011 TIEM Talento e Innovación Empresarial de México Este Mensaje le ha sido enviado como usuario de TIEM de México o bien un usuario le refirió para recibir este boletín. Como usuario de TIEM de México, en este acto autoriza de manera expresa que TIEM de México le puede contactar vía correo electrónico u otros medios. Si usted ha recibido este mensaje por error, haga caso omiso de él y reporte su cuenta respondiendo este correo con el subject BAJABD Unsubscribe to this mailing list, reply a blank message with the subject UNSUBSCRIBE BAJABD Tenga en cuenta que la gestión de nuestras bases de datos es de suma importancia y no es intención de la empresa la inconformidad del receptor. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 1.jpg]
El curso que nadie se debe perder Ortografía y Redacción para Ejecutivos Cierre de Reservaciones
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Re: Favorite IDE for C programming on OpenBSD
Hi, VIM is the reply.! Regards. On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Giovanni Bechis giova...@bigio.snb.it wrote: Joel Rees j...@alpsgiken.gr.jp wrote: Anyone tried Kylix under Linux emulation? ;- I tried an old version and it worked, if I remember correctly it was OpenBSD 3.8. Cheers Giovanni -- Francisco Valladolid H. -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.
Nueva fecha para el curso de El Arte de Saber Servir al Cliente
Apreciable Ejecutivo: TIEM de México Empresa Líder en Capacitación y Actualización de Capital Humano Debido a la gran demanda abrimos una nueva fecha para el curso de: El Arte de Saber Servir al Cliente Está Programado para el: 02 de Octubre en la Ciudad de México Inscríbase 5 días antes de la fecha del Curso y obtenga un descuento del 15% con Inversión Inmediata Además por cada dos participantes inscritos en tarifa de Inversión normal, el tercero es completamente gratis No deje pasar esta oportunidad e Invierta en su Desarrollo Personal y Profesional Una de las grandes preocupaciones de las empresas, es Contactar, Atender, Vender y Retener a más clientes; para lo cual invierten cantidades muy significativas en instalaciones, capacitación y tecnología actualizada. Lo que no es suficiente, porque existen otros factores importantes: Imagen Personal e Imagen Institucional, (formas y métodos de atención, cultura de servicio, así como imagen de la empresa o marca). Todos la construimos o destruimos. Beneficios de este Curso: Conocerán objetivamente los beneficios de la comunicación persuasiva. Cómo entender a los clientes o usuarios de los servicios empatía- Cómo y porque ofrecer servicios de calidad. Cómo ser un hábil negociador. Cómo entender las preocupaciones de los clientes Y/O contentarlos. Cómo ir más allá del servicio al cliente. Del Costo, Vs. Beneficio Que gano y que puedo perder Objetivo Principal: Sensibilizar a los participantes, sobre la importancia y conveniencia de otorgar servicios y atención de alta calidad a los clientes Y/O usuarios de los servicios de su empresa o dependencia, mediante acciones concretas de apoyo y ayuda en sus requerimientos, Mejorando y reforzando sus habilidades de comunicación, persuasión y de Servicio. Para mayor información, favor de responder este correo con los siguientes datos: Empresa: Nombre: Ciudad: Teléfono: O si lo prefiere comuníquese a los teléfonos: Del DF al 5611-0969 con 10 líneas Interior del País Lada sin Costo 01 800 900 TIEM (8436) Aceptamos todas las TDC y Débito. **Promoción: 3 meses sin Intereses pagando con American Express **Aplica solo con Inversión Normal ®Todos los Derechos Reservados ©2011 TIEM Talento e Innovación Empresarial de México Este Mensaje le ha sido enviado como usuario de TIEM de México o bien un usuario le refirió para recibir este boletín. Como usuario de TIEM de México, en este acto autoriza de manera expresa que TIEM de México le puede contactar vía correo electrónico u otros medios. Si usted ha recibido este mensaje por error, haga caso omiso de él y reporte su cuenta respondiendo este correo con el subject BAJABD Unsubscribe to this mailing list, reply a blank message with the subject UNSUBSCRIBE BAJABD Tenga en cuenta que la gestión de nuestras bases de datos es de suma importancia y no es intención de la empresa la inconformidad del receptor.
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Re: Learning C Programming
Hi. IMHO, Practical C Programming is a good book also. (http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9781565923065.do) Regards. On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:59 PM, cody chandler cody.a.chand...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Amit Kulkarni amitk...@gmail.com wrote: Talk about learning C Programming and the KR book being a good one. Is this the book? http://www.amazon.com/C-Programming-Language-2nd-Edition/dp/0131103628 yes it is, and i am surprised it is ~ $50. it is such a small book. Thanks to all! -- Francisco Valladolid H. -- http://blog.bsdguy.net - Jesus Christ follower.
Re: the aucat recording studio - stereo panning
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:05:36AM +0100, Alexandre H wrote: You'll face other problems preventing you from doing everything with aucat. First, there's no reverb, which is necessary to create the spacial feel, volume changes are too abrupt (cause small clicks) and not real-time. Implementing pan, effects and smooth parameter changes would bloat aucat/sndiod. IMO the way to go is to handle processing in small programs (with a simple record-process-play loop) and keep sndiod only for routing the signal to the hardware or other programs. Currently that's the way I handle some effects, I write small programs that apply effects on the record stream to send the result in real-time on the play stream. Then I use -mmon to record the result in a file. Not very flexible, but good enough to test the concept. If I understand what you are doing, perhaps you have another way. Noatun doesn't make the deal ? afaics noatun can't apply effects in real-time and is not very lightweight. When I wrote it can apply effects in real-time I meant this : I play an audio file. While it plays it I can do the following : I go to the menu Settings and select Effects. I add the effect Arts::Synth_FREEVERB for example. I hear the audio changing immediatly as expected. If I change the value of a parameter the audio change immediatly as expected. I can change the position of the playing-cursor without audible delay. It's interactive and the audible audio quality doesn't change (assuming the activity of other parts of the system doesn't change sufficiently). AFAICS the effect is applied online. Noatun and Kaffeine can do this real-time. Sure, this interactive mode has some drawbacks and adding the audio output recording in a new file will slowdown more or less the whole process and perhaps decrease the audible audio quality (and if too many process eat the CPU the real-time will end). At least for this last reason it's certainly better to use batch mode (1 process offline) with a command (sox for example) launched from a CLI. The interactive mode has an obvious advantage : instead of launching many times the same command with differents values in order to find the best values, it's certainly easier to use a player with this real-time capability. This interactive mode is useful not only for listening music or playing with effects but also for discovering, experimenting and testing filters (and GUI isn't mandatory, it can be done in console mode with a keyboard only). This is why I proposed Noatun (it should exists ligtherweight player with this capability). I would like to go further on this point, I will stay brief : An audio editor can use this 2 modes. The user searchs the best values in interactive mode (without recording) and when he pushs the Save button, the editor launch in background something like sox with this values, wich converts the input file and give the output file (batch mode). The editor has the advantages of this 2 modes without their drawbacks. If someone want to develop a new audio filtering editor he can implement this principle on any player with this real-time capability instead of developing a new one from scratch. Noatun seems to be a good candidat. The player with the UI is already done and it works well, so less work to do.
Re: the aucat recording studio - stereo panning
You'll face other problems preventing you from doing everything with aucat. First, there's no reverb, which is necessary to create the spacial feel, volume changes are too abrupt (cause small clicks) and not real-time. Implementing pan, effects and smooth parameter changes would bloat aucat/sndiod. IMO the way to go is to handle processing in small programs (with a simple record-process-play loop) and keep sndiod only for routing the signal to the hardware or other programs. Currently that's the way I handle some effects, I write small programs that apply effects on the record stream to send the result in real-time on the play stream. Then I use -mmon to record the result in a file. Not very flexible, but good enough to test the concept. If I understand what you are doing, perhaps you have another way. Noatun doesn't make the deal ? You play audio file with it and add the filter Arts::Synth_FREEVERB. It has the essential control knobs for reverb. Kaffeine has other filters for audio. Noatun Kaffeine work well with filters, parameters can be adjusted in real-time. And it should be possible to record the audio output in a file. And perhaps you will want to write new filters for them ;).
Re: OpenBSD/amd64 runs on computers equipped with AMD Athlon64
On 12 Dec 2011, at 12:50, Tekk wrote: No, amd64 will only run on 64 bit x86 processors, so any 64 bit intel or amd will work(amd made the architecture, so it's called amd64 or x86_64.) No 32 bit processor will be able to run it For completeness, non-Itanium 64-bit Intel processors. Michael
Re: how to find dependencies when building a new kernel
On 29 Nov 2011, at 04:05, T. Valent wrote: This is what I do: edit /usr/src/sys/conf/GENERIC I'm fine with this so far. I have to admit I've never needed to build my own OpenBSD kernel, so things might be a bit different from NetBSD and FreeBSD. However, unless you are a kernel maintainer, why are you editing GENERIC instead of copying it to, say, MYKERNEL, and mucking about with that? Michael
Re: Firewall rules to block unwanted protocolls on given ports
On 19 Mar 2011, at 09:05, johhny_at_poland77 wrote: Does somebody has an idea, that what kind of iptables/pf rule must i use to achieve this?: i only want to allow these connections [on the output chain]: on port 53 output only allow udp - dns TCP also needs to be allowed for DNS (to allow for large DNSSEC packets). Michael
Predictable network interface numbering
This one's got me stumped for a few days now... How is it possible to control the network interface numbering assignment order? Here's my specific case: the box has 2 on-board Ethernet interfaces and a 3rd one on a PCI-Express card. They come up as: re0: PCI-Express card re1: on-board interface #1 re2: on-board interface #2 A recent event had disabled the PCI card, and the remaining network interfaces ended up being reassigned (upon the next reboot, of course) as: re0: on-board interface #1 re1: on-board interface #2 Could this have been prevented by forcing network interface assignment to on-board interface _first_, then the PCI card? Or is there a way to bind network interface assignment to the adapter's MAC address as numbering hint? -- JHT
equivalent of Linux mount -o bind
So I'm curious if there's something in OpenBSD that's similar to the mount -o bind /dir1 /dir2 to make dir1 appear where dir2 is. I seem to recall a mount_nullfs but don't see it in the latest OpenBSD. Please note that I'm not trying to start a flame war, so there's no need to make Linux comments. BTW, the vnconfig manpage should probably indicate that the image need not be a file, you can use a slice/partition too.
Re: OpenBSD 4.8's bsd.mp doesn't detect 4GB Memory
On 2010/12/14 at 00:53, Nick Jones n...@dischord.org wrote: On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 at 22:55:59 +0800, Denise H. G. wrote: FWIW, I'm running -current with BIGMEM enabled on my X200 and it's running fine. I've attached the output of dmesg and pcidump -v for reference. Kernel is generic otherwise, just renamed. Great! Did you recompile your kernel? Or just modified your kernel by using config(8) ? I am rather new to OpenBSD... You need to amend: /usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/amd64/machdep.c And change the relevant line (1183 in the -current source I checked out yesterday) so that it says: int bigmem = 1; Then recompile your kernel as per the FAQ, reboot, and cross your fingers. Report your success (or failure) here. Thanks for your reply! But the point is that I haven't yet built a custom kernel ever I only build custom kernels on FreeBSD... it seems custom kernels are not popular in OpenBSD world... Anyway thanks again! -- If reproducibility may be a problem conduct the test only once.
Re: OpenBSD 4.8's bsd.mp doesn't detect 4GB Memory
On 2010/12/14 at 02:45, Jeff Ross jr...@openvistas.net wrote: On 12/13/10 09:52, Nick Jones wrote: On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 at 22:55:59 +0800, Denise H. G. wrote: FWIW, I'm running -current with BIGMEM enabled on my X200 and it's running fine. I've attached the output of dmesg and pcidump -v for reference. Kernel is generic otherwise, just renamed. Great! Did you recompile your kernel? Or just modified your kernel by using config(8) ? I am rather new to OpenBSD... You need to amend: /usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/amd64/machdep.c And change the relevant line (1183 in the -current source I checked out yesterday) so that it says: int bigmem = 1; Then recompile your kernel as per the FAQ, reboot, and cross your fingers. Report your success (or failure) here. Be aware that you are treading on unproven and unsupported ground, and the devs are not interested in hearing about bigmem related problems. Here is a PR I submitted not to long ago that was immediately closed because it was based on a bigmem kernel: http://cvs.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-wrapper?full=yesnumbers=6453 Thanks. I've switched to FreeBSD for my desktop with 4G memory... I am considering giving it a try on my laptop with less memory... At the bottom of this lengthy bug report is the response of the dev who closed it. Jeff Ross -- If reproducibility may be a problem conduct the test only once.
Re: OpenBSD 4.8's bsd.mp doesn't detect 4GB Memory
On 2010/12/14 at 20:32, Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Denise H. G. darc...@gmail.com wrote: On 2010/12/14 at 02:45, Jeff Ross jr...@openvistas.net wrote: On 12/13/10 09:52, Nick Jones wrote: On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 at 22:55:59 +0800, Denise H. G. wrote: FWIW, I'm running -current with BIGMEM enabled on my X200 and it's running fine. I've attached the output of dmesg and pcidump -v for reference. Kernel is generic otherwise, just renamed. Great! Did you recompile your kernel? Or just modified your kernel by using config(8) ? I am rather new to OpenBSD... You need to amend: /usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/amd64/machdep.c And change the relevant line (1183 in the -current source I checked out yesterday) so that it says: int bigmem = 1; Then recompile your kernel as per the FAQ, reboot, and cross your fingers. Report your success (or failure) here. Be aware that you are treading on unproven and unsupported ground, and the devs are not interested in hearing about bigmem related problems. Here is a PR I submitted not to long ago that was immediately closed because it was based on a bigmem kernel: http://cvs.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/query-pr-wrapper?full=yesnumbers=6453 Thanks. I've switched to FreeBSD for my desktop with 4G memory... Unnecessary fear : $ sysctl kern.version kern.version=OpenBSD 4.8-current (GENERIC.MP) #547: Tue Dec 7 23:16:34 MST 2010 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP $ load averages: 0.76, 1.14, 1.06 hostname 13:27:52 49 processes: 1 running, 45 idle, 1 zombie, 2 on processor CPU0 states: 2.0% user, 0.0% nice, 1.6% system, 0.0% interrupt, 96.4% idle CPU1 states: 3.8% user, 0.0% nice, 1.2% system, 0.0% interrupt, 95.0% idle Memory: Real: 321M/610M act/tot Free: 2651M Swap: 0K/8189M used/tot $ dmesg | grep mem RTC BIOS diagnostic error 11memory_size real mem = 3487125504 (3325MB) avail mem = 3420016640 (3261MB) spdmem0 at iic0 addr 0x50: 2GB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-10600 spdmem1 at iic0 addr 0x52: 2GB DDR3 SDRAM PC3-10600 kqemu: kqemu version 0x00010300 loaded, max locked mem=1702696kB $ My computer is more then 90% of time idle (regarding CPU) and my memory (even with bufcachepercent=40) is all the time more then 400MB free even that I'm using a LOT of apps at same time including two or three VM's in Qemu. Thanks! Then I have to learn now how to build a custom kernel on OpenBSD, which is the first time for me:) $ vmstat 1 10 procsmemory pagediskstraps cpu r b wavm fre flt re pi po fr sr sd0 cd0 int sys cs us sy id 1 0 0 329432 2714044 762 0 0 0 0 0 6 0 47 14706 775 8 3 89 1 0 0 329544 2713900 67 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 35 3206 455 3 0 97 1 0 0 329544 2713900 23 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 10 2412 319 0 0 100 1 0 0 329544 2713900 33 0 0 0 0 0 0 03 2386 305 0 0 100 1 0 0 329464 2713980 527 0 0 0 0 0 0 04 2568 313 6 0 94 2 0 0 329464 2713980 58 0 0 0 0 0 0 03 2562 327 1 0 99 0 0 0 329464 2713980 23 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 47 2907 404 1 0 99 1 0 0 329452 2713992 30 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 58 4672 451 2 0 98 1 0 0 329636 2713808 1021 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 69 7632 465 5 4 91 1 0 0 329644 2713800 523 0 0 0 0 0 0 03 2504 308 5 0 95 $ -- If reproducibility may be a problem conduct the test only once.
Re: OpenBSD 4.8's bsd.mp doesn't detect 4GB Memory
On 2010/12/13 at 21:26, Nick Jones n...@dischord.org wrote: On Sun, 12 Dec 2010 at 20:29:58 +0800, Denise H. G. wrote: On 2010/12/12 at 19:51, Martin Schrvder mar...@oneiros.de wrote: 2010/12/12 Predrag Punosevac punoseva...@gmail.com: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=127593716916639w=1 http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=127601395920661w=1 http://quigon.bsws.de/papers/2010/bsdcan-openbsdupdate/mgp2.html FWIW, I'm running -current with BIGMEM enabled on my X200 and it's running fine. I've attached the output of dmesg and pcidump -v for reference. Kernel is generic otherwise, just renamed. Great! Did you recompile your kernel? Or just modified your kernel by using config(8) ? I am rather new to OpenBSD... -- The chief cause of problems is solutions.
Re: OpenBSD 4.8's bsd.mp doesn't detect 4GB Memory
On 2010/12/12 at 19:51, Martin Schrvder mar...@oneiros.de wrote: 2010/12/12 Predrag Punosevac punoseva...@gmail.com: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=127593716916639w=1 http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=127601395920661w=1 http://quigon.bsws.de/papers/2010/bsdcan-openbsdupdate/mgp2.html Best Martin Well... any way thanks! I think that explans everything. Thanks! haha. -- Sale promotions don't.
OpenBSD 4.8's bsd.mp doesn't detect 4GB Memory
Hi guys. Recently I installed OpenBSD 4.8 and found out that it can't detect 4GB memory on my amd64 box. From the output of dmesg I can see it detects all the memory hardware (4x1G memory bars). Yet it can only use about 3.5G of them, like an i386 kernel does. I've googled the issue and some say one has to 'config' the default kernel (i.e., bsd.mp). But I am not very sure that I know how to do that... My question is: Is there anything I can do to make bsd.mp detect all the 4G memory on my amd64? There must be some way... I think. Many Thanks! -- When you are right be logical, when you are wrong be-fuddle.
Re: Advice on learning C as first language
On 24 Nov 2010, at 11:14, Bahador NazariFard wrote: I agree with Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us He told Learning C is easy; learning to using C right is the hard part. Read more code to learn from the experts. I think if you are sharp u can learn C during one week. But using C is not so easy. You should be able to think as a programmer. I think all parts of a program is important. you should pay attention to design, algorithm, debug, data structure, architecture and also libraries. you can not be a programmer by learning syntax of every computer language. I think programming is an art And there is only one way to learn an art, practice makes perfect. you can learn programming by reading and writing real projects codes. And I'll add (I'm not a computer scientist!) that one should thoroughly understand functional programming before even thinking about object-oriented programming. Michael
Re: Enough is enough!
Pitty their isn't a $5 fee for whining. I'm sure imposing something like that would generate alot of revenue for Theo and the rest of the development team. On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 4:18 AM, bsdmas...@hushmail.com wrote: FTP server down, amd64 snapshot packages way out of sync with latest libc bump... What the hell! If you guys don't get your sh*t together, I'm done. Yeah, you read that right. If this whole situation is not cleared in the next 24 hours, I'm switching to ArchLinux (www.archlinux.org). You've been warned.
Re: Short thank you and gratitude note for constant OpenBSD improvements/evolutions!
+1 Very well put Daniel On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Daniel Ouellet dan...@presscom.net wrote: Hi, Many things got me to want to write a quick thank you note to the devs for a long time and as many things goes, times fly and sadly I keep putting it off. But, I guess some of the very disgraceful emails one misc@ lately including some totally off topics f*cked up one about OpenBSD being no free, or to expensive just show how totally disconnected to this community way to many lsers are on misc@ these days urge me to take the time and do it! So, this is just a simple and quick note to thanks ALL the ***developers***!!! for a great OS and constantly improvements done each day with the inclusion/improvement/addition and development of BSD license applications included in base, as well as REMOVAL/CLEANUP of really bulky/old one. No one SADLY really thank you for your TIME YOU so gracefully give to the project and that we get the advantage and benefit to be able to use and sadly looks like you are most of the time on the bad disgraceful receiving end! YOU give us YOUR time, YOUR brain, YOUR ideas and WE get the benefit of YOUR HARD WORK as well that YOU so willingly share so OPENLY with ALL the community. Just as an example, (I only pick the latest one, so forgive me for it) but yet still an other HUGE chunk of code was removed in the last few days *grof stuff and that's not the only one so don't take it as ONLY that please. But just that is yet one HUGE chunk of cleaned up code and it's amazing to see and follow source-chan...@cvs.openbsd.org and constantly see not only new great things constantly added, but a FANATIC attention to getting things secure, clean and correct each day as well as REMOVAL as well of old stuff including and not limited to old GPL stuff that clearly show YOUR total dedication to your beliefs! I don't want to take more of YOUR time as there is WAY to much to be thankful for and the list is WAY to long to put here! Even if I could, I would for sure forget some or someone and that's the last thing I really want to do is forget even a single developer effort and time gratfully givin to the community like YOU do each and every day! THANK YOU GUYS!! There is no words to really express the satisfaction and gratitude for the best OS ever made and second to none! I am sure you had built a thick skins over the years from comments on misc@, but just know that NOT all users on misc@ are total loosers! There is more then you might know that very much appreciate your work and gifts! Sadly it's the quiet one that really appreciate it I suppose! Best regards to your all and long live OpenBSD! Daniel PS: All others misc@ followers, don't forget 4.8 will be officially release on November 1, so go get your CD and show your support as well!
Re: 4.8 arrival!
bsdmaster, IMO you should buy the cd's or wait patiently for them to be released to the mirrors. If you rely on OpenBSD enough to ask someone to take their time to create ISO's and upload them you rely on it enough to buy it!!! On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 9:58 PM, bsdmas...@hushmail.com wrote: Hello, Would you please consider uploading an iso image of your OpenBSD 4.8 to some public tracker such as thepiratebay.org? If you are unfamiliar with the process of making an iso-image out of a CD, or if you need help with the generation and upload of the torrent file, I may be of some help. Just ask. Thanks alot, this will be of great use for poor folks like me who cannot afford the expensive license fees. Yes, I said it, 50CDN$ is very expensive. Maybe the OpenBSD Company could setup something like MSDNAA, for stuents to get access to the software for free? Anyway, I'm getting off topic. PS: please people, stop bottom-posting. It forces me to scroll down to read the latest message, and I don't like that. Show some common sense! On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 11:14:24 -0400 SJP Lists sjp.li...@flashbsd.net wrote: On 27 October 2010 10:14, Rod Whitworth glis...@witworx.com wrote: On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 17:36:00 -0500, Neal Hogan wrote: Chicago . . . THANKS! And all the way through customs to Sydney Australia. WOW! Me too. And more nice shirts and a 2.5 CD for old times sake and to get my hands on my favorite stickers! Shane
Re: -current is not really -current
With your recent posts, I highly doubt you'll be getting an @openbsd.orge-mail address anytime soon. On Thu, Oct 28, 2010 at 12:59 AM, bsdmas...@hushmail.com wrote: Hello, I have been conducting a series of tests and I can say that there is a problem with the build service for the -current snapshots. Here is my findings: 1 Get the code from CVS 2 Build it 3 Get the snapshot 4 Compare it's not the same. I think of course this problem could be solved easily, so I search the mailing-list and I find that the snapshots are make manually by one person. I must say this person is a very courageous, but his wasting is time and the quality of the project (and also as a consequence, my time is wasted too). I suggest people always use the code that already exist to automate their task. For example, we could use the openSUSE build-service. Notice how their name also includes the word 'open', so it's very nice. I know how to use it very well, and I think I can be of some help with that process. Please contact me about this matter, I will reply directly to you with my desired username for my @openbsd.org email address, please don't just go creating it all for me without contacting me first to get my opinion because sometimes email addresses can be ugly and I don't like that. You're welcome.
Adaptec Serial ATA RAID 21610SA
Hi misc, I'm looking for some feedback from people who might have tried using an Adaptec Serial ATA RAID 21610SA on OpenBSD. I completely understand why Theo and the rest of the developers don't include the driver in the GENERIC kernel since they were never given the documentation from Adaptec needed to create the best driver possible. My file server currently runs FreeBSD 8.1 and has the adaptec card in it, thus far it's ran quite well but I would love to have that system running OpenBSD if I can. So I'm hoping someone on misc has experience with this card and might be able to offer some insight as to what I can expect in comparison to how it runs on FBSD... I also wanted to take this time to thank all of the other developers for the upcoming release. Shawn
Re: Adaptec Serial ATA RAID 21610SA
Thanks for your updates to the story Nick. As I said at this time I can't replace the card but I will certainly do so as soon as I'm able. I appreciate your feedback. Shawn On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Nick Holland n...@holland-consulting.netwrote: On 10/22/10 11:56, Tomas Bodzar wrote: It's not only problem with license, but with quality of Adaptec as a whole http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=125783114503531w=2 . But maybe it changed as there is not Adaptec anymore. And don't forget this follow up: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-miscm=126775051500581w=2 As you people keep bringing Adaptec cards, I'm gonna update my story... If you haven't read the above chapters in the story, you might. I swear in it a few times. I don't usually do that. It's worth the read just for that. :) ok, when we last saw this story, Adaptec was working on new firmware which really would fix the problem. Not too long after I wrote the second chapter in this saga, I got word from my ever-patient support guy that they got a new firmware for me, and if this doesn't do it, they are sending me new controllers (LSI), which they have switched to for all new machines they send out (forcing a rev of their application). The new firmware is installed, and finally..things are working. For a while. A couple months ago, one of the boxes hangs and quits working, somewhat like the very very first problem, but to be honest, that isn't my first guess. I reboot the box, and call the service vendor and they look and sure enough, a couple hours later I get a call from the guy who has patiently worked with me on this stuff and he said, It did it again. I can't believe this, but sure enough, the system logs show the controller tripping up and killing the system. again. So, they tell me, That does it, you are getting the upgrade kit. They send me out the deluxe edition, complete with new disks, array pre-created and preloaded with the new OS, as the old array won't be readable on the new array controller. The kit is actually pretty decent, they have obviously spent a bit of time planning on having people field-upgrade these what were supposed to be sealed boxes, and changing cards in computers, of course, hasn't been an issue for me...well, ever. It's something of a pain, though, as we basically have to rebuild the box from scratch, and reconfigure it as the old system was (and hope we got everything right the first time...which we did by the time the third box was upgraded). While we are upgrading the first one, though, another one died on us...leading us to think we've got an uptime-related issue. So at this point, I've got three of the boxes upgraded with new firmware (and a new version of the OS to go along with it). The fourth box, I offered to test the NEXT new Craptec firmware on. Curiously, the version number on the new firmware is SMALLER than the last This is it version. Yes, you could feel my support contact rolling his eyes when he told me that. Do note that every step of the way, they are sending me new FIRMWARE, not new OS drivers. They are having trouble working around the bugs in the hardware. THE CARD IS CRAP. THEY KNOW IT. Tell me again how wonderfully it is working on your FreeBSD system. No, better idea, don't. Save your breath. All I will believe at this point is you haven't seen a problem...yet. Maybe this card doesn't suck as bad as the ones we got in these four machines. Maybe it just sucks differently. Nick. On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 6:44 PM, S H shbulkm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi misc, I'm looking for some feedback from people who might have tried using an Adaptec Serial ATA RAID 21610SA on OpenBSD. B I completely understand why Theo and the rest of the developers don't include the driver in the GENERIC kernel since they were never given the documentation from Adaptec needed to create the best driver possible. My file server currently runs FreeBSD 8.1 and has the adaptec card in it, thus far it's ran quite well but I would love to have that system running OpenBSD if I can. B So I'm hoping someone on misc has experience with this card and might be able to offer some insight as to what I can expect in comparison to how it runs on FBSD... I also wanted to take this time to thank all of the other developers for the upcoming release. Shawn
Re: Perfect daemon for a torrentbox
I've used btpd, which is excellent IMO. The only thing you'll find is you can't make it fake ratio/speed and such as I have heard you can do with rtorrent. A simple script and I was able to just drop .torrent files into a directory on my desktop machine and using a cron job the .torrent files would be copied over and started automatically in btpd. The blacklists you could maybe do using PF? As for encryption, I cannot say as I've never tried that. Good luck with your project! On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 9:32 PM, Paolo Aglialoro paol...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, this week I got my hands over a working 200MHz i386 thin client Neoware ca5, see: http://www.jonshouse.co.uk/neoware_ca5.cgi This machine had got a 32MB WinCE rom disk over a 44pin IDE bus which I promptly removed ;))) and a RAM expansion slot which immediately got 256MB as a whoopping present :))) I'm right now waiting from ebay a compact flash to 44pin IDE adapter, so that I can stick in 16GB storage :))) So, this is the perfect torrentbox (and also angbandbox!): 15W max operating, fanless, kinda fire and forget :))) As soon as the card arrives the box will get a luxurious -current install :))) On CLI I've always used rtorrent as a nice, powerful torrent client. But this box is meant to run totally headless. Which means I'll access to it only through ssh. As far as I know, pls correct me if I'm wrong, rtorrent is not meant to be run as a daemon, even though somebody on linux already tried to overcome this: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=53395 or http://flipsidereality.com/blog/linux/rtorrent-with-wtorrent-on-debian-etch-complete-howto/but these look like dirty hacks. I'd therefore like to know which program I could run as a torrent daemon with the following requisites: 1. accessible/browsable through CLI/ssh every time I connect (http could be a plus, also to upload .torrent files) 2. supporting level1 IP blacklists 3. supporting protocol encryption Any good hints for the clue bucket? Thanks in advance
Re: ABOUT PEOPLE WITH WHOM MATRIMONY IS PROHIBITED
And the relevance of this to the OpenBSD community is? On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:22 AM, Sam Singh samsingh...@absamail.co.za wrote: 1 : If a man commits adultery with a woman, then it is not permissible for him to marry her mother or her daughters. 2 : If a woman out of sexual passion and with evil intent commits sexual intercourse with a man, then it is not permissible for the mother or daughters of that woman to merry that man. In the same way, the man who committed sexual intercourse with a woman, because prohibited for her mother and daughters. Download the attached article to read. The original file name is PROHIBITED_MATRIMONY.rar and compressed by WinRAR no virus found. Use WinRAR to decompress the file. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/ms-tnef which had a name of winmail.dat]
Re: Why I left OpenBSD
Dexter, I'm still relatively new to OpenBSD and the community, however a few days ago you had asked about why large memory support still wasn't enabled by default. Asking if the developers needed hardware, funding or what not to get it working properly. If you were in fact a developer as your latest rant states and large memory was such a concern for you, it would stand to reason that you would be well aware of why it hasn't made it into the default install. Also, a developer likely wouldn't piss and moan about it on the mailing lists, rather they would just start working to rectify the situation. Your obviously full of shit IMO, FreeBSD 7.2 came out quite some time ago. If you havent been using OpenBSD since your change than why did you inquire about large memory support three days ago? On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 4:45 AM, Dexter Tomisson dexterto...@gmail.com wrote: Man, it's not me. Just wanted to share that with you all. On 10 June 2010 11:40, Dunceor dunc...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Dexter Tomisson dexterto...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.trollaxor.com/2010/06/why-i-left-openbsd.html Ok why write a long text and the only reason you have is that you are unhappy with driver support and with Theo? I was looking for some more indepth discussion on why you choose not to use OpenBSD anymore but it was just another worthless post. This feels more like the usual troll post of people that got hurt while dealing with Theo. Like somebody said, is this the year of trolls?
Re: No ACPI battery/ac status readings on a ASUS UL30A laptop.
2010/4/29 Torbjxrn H. Orskaug torbjorn.orsk...@gmail.com: 2010/4/29 Peter Hessler phess...@theapt.org: what happens if you remove and reinsert the power cord, does it do the same thing? Yep. Just a quick update on this. I recompiled my kernel with ACPI_DEBUG enabled and I can see that after physically removing and reinserting the battery, the _STA method returns 0x1f and everything works as expected. I guess I'm just stuck with a broken BIOS/AML and I'll make a habit of removing and reinserting the battery of this laptop if I really need battery charge status.
No ACPI battery/ac status readings on a ASUS UL30A laptop.
Hi misc! I just got one of these babies as a present and put OpenBSD on it right away. Everything seems to be running smoothly, with the single exception of battery and ac status readings in apm(8): Battery state: absent, 0% remaining, unknown life estimate A/C adapter state: not known Performance adjustment mode: auto (1300 MHz) If however, I remove and reattach the battery, it's status is there in all it's glory. I've poked around in acpibat.c and acpiac.c but my experience with ACPI is pretty limited and I can't really make much sense of it (yet). Has anyone else experienced this problem? Are there any obvious things I can try to get things working? I'm currently building a kernel with ACPI_DEBUG defined to see if I can get some more information on what's going on. dmesg: OpenBSD 4.7-current (GENERIC.MP) #557: Tue Apr 27 00:36:31 MDT 2010 dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP cpu0: Genuine Intel(R) CPU U7300 @ 1.30GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.34 GHz cpu0: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,XSAVE real mem = 3184717824 (3037MB) avail mem = 3089928192 (2946MB) mainbus0 at root bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 12/28/09, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf0010, SMBIOS rev. 2.5 @ 0xfcce0 (41 entries) bios0: vendor American Megatrends Inc. version 212 date 12/28/2009 bios0: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. UL30A acpi0 at bios0: rev 2 acpi0: tables DSDT FACP APIC MCFG SLIC ECDT DBGP BOOT OEMB HPET GSCI SSDT acpi0: wakeup devices USB0(S3) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) USB5(S3) EUSB(S3) USB3(S3) USB4(S3) USB6(S3) USBE(S3) HDAC(S3) P0P1(S3) P0P3(S3) P0P5(S3) P0P6(S3) P0P7(S4) LAN_(S4) GLAN(S4) P0P8(S3) SLPB(S4) acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor) cpu0: apic clock running at 205MHz cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor) cpu1: Genuine Intel(R) CPU U7300 @ 1.30GHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 1.34 GHz cpu1: FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,SSSE3,CX16,xTPR,PDCM,SSE4.1,XSAVE ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 2 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0) acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 2 (P0P2) acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 3 (P0P7) acpiec0 at acpi0 acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, C1, PSS acpicpu1 at acpi0: C3, C1, PSS acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature 100 degC acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit in unknown state acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 not present acpibtn0 at acpi0: SLPB acpibtn1 at acpi0: LID_ acpivideo0 at acpi0: VGA_ acpivout0 at acpivideo0: CRTD acpivout1 at acpivideo0: LCDD acpivout2 at acpivideo0: HDMI bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0xfe00! cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1339 MHz: speeds: 1300, 800 MHz pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios) pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel GM45 Host rev 0x07 vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel GM45 Video rev 0x07 wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation) wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation) intagp0 at vga1 agp0 at intagp0: aperture at 0xd000, size 0x1000 inteldrm0 at vga1: apic 2 int 16 (irq 10) drm0 at inteldrm0 Intel GM45 Video rev 0x07 at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured uhci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 2 int 16 (irq 10) uhci1 at pci0 dev 26 function 1 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 2 int 21 (irq 7) uhci2 at pci0 dev 26 function 2 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 2 int 19 (irq 3) ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 7 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 2 int 18 (irq 6) usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0 uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801I HD Audio rev 0x03: apic 2 int 22 (irq 4) azalia0: codecs: Realtek ALC269, Intel/0x2802, using Realtek ALC269 audio0 at azalia0 ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801I PCIE rev 0x03 pci1 at ppb0 bus 1 ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 82801I PCIE rev 0x03 pci2 at ppb1 bus 2 athn0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Atheros AR9285 rev 0x01: apic 2 int 17 (irq 5), address 1c:4b:d6:ba:b3:4b athn0: AR9285 rev 2 (1T1R), ROM rev 13 ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 5 Intel 82801I PCIE rev 0x03: apic 2 int 17 (irq 5) pci3 at ppb2 bus 3 alc0 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 Attansic Technology L2C rev 0xc0: apic 2 int 17 (irq 5), address 48:5b:39:3f:2b:f0 atphy0 at alc0 phy 0: F1 10/100/1000 PHY, rev. 11 uhci3 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 2 int 23 (irq 10) uhci4 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 2 int 19 (irq 3) uhci5 at pci0 dev 29 function 2 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 2 int 18 (irq 6) ehci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 7 Intel 82801I USB rev 0x03: apic 2 int 23 (irq 10) usb1 at ehci1: USB revision 2.0 uhub1 at usb1 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1 ppb3 at pci0 dev 30 function 0 Intel 82801BAM
Re: OpenBGPD Multicast SAFI Support?
On 24 Feb 2010, at 17:24, Claudio Jeker wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 04:19:33PM -0500, Michael H Lambert wrote: If I'm reading the manpages and latest CVS correctly, OpenBGPD does not yet support SAFI_MULTICAST for either IPv4 or IPv6, although some of the hooks appear to be present. Does anyone have a good feel for how much effort would be required to add this functionality (or just where changes need to be made)? It looks to be the big sticking point in moving from quagga to OpenBGPD. Why are you using MBGP? Your the first requesting this. Multicast routing is totaly different from unicast routing. It will need fairly massive changes. I should add that we are just interested in MBGP when running as a route server. Michael
OpenBGPD Multicast SAFI Support?
If I'm reading the manpages and latest CVS correctly, OpenBGPD does not yet support SAFI_MULTICAST for either IPv4 or IPv6, although some of the hooks appear to be present. Does anyone have a good feel for how much effort would be required to add this functionality (or just where changes need to be made)? It looks to be the big sticking point in moving from quagga to OpenBGPD. Thanks, Michael
Re: OpenBGPD Multicast SAFI Support?
On 24 Feb 2010, at 17:24, Claudio Jeker wrote: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 04:19:33PM -0500, Michael H Lambert wrote: If I'm reading the manpages and latest CVS correctly, OpenBGPD does not yet support SAFI_MULTICAST for either IPv4 or IPv6, although some of the hooks appear to be present. Does anyone have a good feel for how much effort would be required to add this functionality (or just where changes need to be made)? It looks to be the big sticking point in moving from quagga to OpenBGPD. Why are you using MBGP? Your the first requesting this. Multicast routing is totaly different from unicast routing. It will need fairly massive changes. I'll agree that multicast FORWARDING is totally different from unicast forwarding. However, I'm talking BGP and not PIM. I think that populating the RIBs is sufficient from a BGP perspective. Michael
Re: Changing the NIC on installed system?
Roger Schreiter ro...@planinternet.de writes: Hello, I did not yet understand very well, how the NIC drivers are selected. Is it done while installing OpenBSD or is it done at boot? In the latter case, I assume, I can replace a PCI network interface without changing any driver settings. NIC drivers are all in a GENERIC kernel, I think. So, if you are running a GENERIC, you don't have to change many driver settings. If the logical interface name will be different, I maybe will have to rename hostname.vge0 to hostname.XX0 or similar. true. Or are there much more changes necessary, when replacing a MikroTik NIC by an Intel one? System in OpenBSD-4.5 If you write your interface name at somewhere else, you have to change them accordingly, I guess. Regards, Roger. regards. -- tamgya |aT| GmAiL |DoT| cOm