Re: [newbie] Connecting to the net as root
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 21:34, Sharrea wrote: > Hi all > > Yeeha! I've finally got a satellite internet connection - one-way, still > have to upload via dialup modem. I was even lucky enough to find a driver > for linux (thanks to Bryan Christianson, developer) which was a breeze to > compile and setup. > > Just one concern, starting/stopping the device must be done as root user. > Is there any security issue with this? I don't _think_ there is but... you > know paranoia an' all... just want to make sure I'm not leaving my system > wide open for script kiddies. > > Oh, and yes, I do have a firewall start upon connection to the net (iptables > script). ;) Sygatech and GRC port scans show all intended ports in > stealth mode. > > And I don't mind if you laugh/scream/shout at me about my paranoia. Some > nice person got into my computer (when I was using M$ Windoze of course!) > and disabled Zonealarm, totally stuffed the packet-sniffer and antivirus > software, left me with an empty excel file that used to contain website > logins and passwords and installed a virus, and displayed the contents of > my hard drive in my browser window. That was two years and one month ago > which is what made me switch to linux. Hehe... had to learn the hard > way... > > Sharrea Couldn't you just create a script to do all of this for you - to "sudo" - therefore allying your fears and paranoias? Then you wouldn't have to worry about doing it manually - ya reckon? -- Tue Jul 15 21:55:00 EST 2003 21:55:00 up 1 day, 13:58, 2 users, load average: 0.35, 0.19, 0.33 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ & RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * I do not know where to find in any literature, whether ancient or modern, any adequate account of that nature with which I am acquainted. Mythology comes nearest to it of any. -- Henry David Thoreau Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ACPI on MDK 9.0
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 20:58, Asier Goikoetxea Yanci wrote: > Hi there, > > I am trying to get ACPI working on my box but I am having some troubles. On > the booting sequence, when acpi is tried to be loaded, I have this error > message: > > acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Notsuch file or directory > > I checked /proc folder and there is no even /proc/acpi folder. Any ideas why? > I am using kernel 2.4.19-16mdk. Do I need to upgrade it? I rather not to do > so but if it is needed... > > Thanks a lot, > > Asier If there is a doubt of it being on or not, do you see it running when you fire up "drakxservices" ?? Also, you can pass the param to the kernel at boot - either directly or by modifying the "append" line in your /etc/lilo.conf; but firstly, to know if it's running as a system service mate. -- Tue Jul 15 21:25:00 EST 2003 21:25:00 up 1 day, 13:28, 2 users, load average: 1.50, 0.89, 0.43 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ & RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Colvard's Logical Premises: All probabilities are 50%. Either a thing will happen or it won't. Colvard's Unconscionable Commentary: This is especially true when dealing with someone you're attracted to. Grelb's Commentary: Likelihoods, however, are 90% against you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [RS] Whois
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 21:05, Cody Harris wrote: > Didn't for me! But now it's safe to assume that you've installed it and are happily identifying every server, domain, gateway and whatnot? -- Tue Jul 15 21:30:00 EST 2003 21:30:00 up 1 day, 13:33, 2 users, load average: 1.25, 1.07, 0.63 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ & RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * QOTD: "If he learns from his mistakes, pretty soon he'll know everything." Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Kernel error
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 20:58, Peter Meyns wrote: > Hi all, > good thing this list seems to be up and running again. > I went through my KDE settings yesterday and on the module "System - Linux > Kernel" I got the following information (translated from German): > > Any ideas? > I'm using Mandrake 9.1 installed without changing the defaults, KDE version > is 3.1. Guten Tag, Peter. When you did your installation, did you install all of the kernel sources and headers? Because if not, then the error is explanatory as the KDE Control Center is looking for the sources and cannot find the necessary configuration files. If, by chance, you DO already have the kernel sources and headers installed, then there is reason for further investigation and concern. So, make sure, absolutely sure, that you have the kernel sources and headers and the likes installed - THEN try opening up the KDE Control Center again and seeing if that resolves the error, mate. -- Tue Jul 15 21:30:00 EST 2003 21:30:00 up 1 day, 13:33, 2 users, load average: 1.25, 1.07, 0.63 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |========| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ & RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * QOTD: "If he learns from his mistakes, pretty soon he'll know everything." Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] M9.1 and Mozilla 1.3
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 21:43, John Richard Smith wrote: > Thank you Stephen for your carefully worded reply. > > OK, so it's me. > > So how is it me ? > > John I reckon that your kernel is missing some modules...when was the last time you did a dependency check on yourself? (g) -- Tue Jul 15 21:05:00 EST 2003 21:05:00 up 1 day, 13:08, 2 users, load average: 0.23, 0.18, 0.10 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ & RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * "Danger, you haven't seen the last of me!" "No, but the first of you turns my stomach!" -- The Firesign Theatre's Nick Danger Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lm sensors is lying
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 18:10, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: > CPU Fan: 5720 RPM (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) > P/S Fan: 0 RPM (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) > SYS Temp: +25.5°C (limit = +45°C, hysteresis = +40°C) > CPU Temp: +41.2°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +55°C) > SBr Temp: +22.8°C (limit = +65°C, hysteresis = +60°C) > LX Dang, man...CPU temp a tad bit high...fryin'up some eggs are we? -- Tue Jul 15 18:25:00 EST 2003 18:25:01 up 1 day, 10:28, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.00 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ & RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * When the ax entered the forest, the trees said, "The handle is one of us!" -- Turkish proverb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Easiest way to upgrade XFree?
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 15:32, JoeHill wrote: > Okay, the options are compiling the latest source tarball and praying > or...? Use urpmi, or red-carpet. -- Tue Jul 15 17:20:00 EST 2003 17:20:00 up 1 day, 9:23, 2 users, load average: 0.33, 0.23, 0.13 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ & RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Windows NT encountered the following error: The operation completed successfully. -- From a Slashdot.org post Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Glib 2.2.3 cannot be found
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 12:48, Cody Harris wrote: > Curious, but why does it say: > OE has removed the following unsafe attachments in your mail: message.footer Because of toe-jam in the message.footer; it can spread bad diseases. -- Tue Jul 15 17:20:00 EST 2003 17:20:00 up 1 day, 9:23, 2 users, load average: 0.33, 0.23, 0.13 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ & RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Windows NT encountered the following error: The operation completed successfully. -- From a Slashdot.org post Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] [RS] Whois
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 12:27, Miark wrote: > urpmi.remove your CD sources. Configure a "distribution" urpmi source. > Then urpmi whois. > > Miark I thought that "whois" would have been installed by default the first time around; or is that on RH ---??? -- Tue Jul 15 17:15:01 EST 2003 17:15:01 up 1 day, 9:18, 2 users, load average: 0.03, 0.12, 0.09 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |====| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ & RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Do your otters do the shimmy? Do they like to shake their tails? Do your wombats sleep in tophats? Is your garden full of snails? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] OT: favorite spyware seeker for windows
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 16:57, Richard Urwin wrote: > On Tuesday 15 Jul 2003 3:36 am, Eric Huff wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > > > I'm trying to find out for my dad what the best (& free) spyware > > finder is > > for windows. > > > > When i google around, i get too many hits (bps, adaware, spybot, > > spywareinfo, etc). > > > > What's your favorite? I trust our list way more than a billion > > reviews on the web... > > Just to reiterate, I installed both ad-aware and spybot on my work > machines just the other day. Both look good, and there's not much to > choose between them. SpySweeper from www.webroot.com Just keep downloading the new versions - cuz they're free - it does quite a good job in conjunction with the other spyware tools...as well, check out: http://www.spyinfo.com - for further tools -- Tue Jul 15 17:15:01 EST 2003 17:15:01 up 1 day, 9:18, 2 users, load average: 0.03, 0.12, 0.09 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ & RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Do your otters do the shimmy? Do they like to shake their tails? Do your wombats sleep in tophats? Is your garden full of snails? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DbaseIV database to use in Mandrake 9.1
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 11:21, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > On Monday 14 July 2003 08:07 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > >> snip > > > The list might be up, but what happened to all the mail from Friday till > > now? Did it get "voided"? > > Stephen: > How do you answer mail that never got posted? > -- cmg I have ESP (Extra Sauce and Pickles) -- Tue Jul 15 11:55:00 EST 2003 11:55:00 up 1 day, 3:58, 2 users, load average: 0.46, 0.15, 0.17 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |========| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ & RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * In the fetid fleapit of Rincewind's brain the projectionist of memory put on reel two. Recollection began to flicker. (The Last Continent) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] test
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 10:38, Chuck Stuettgen wrote: > On Mon, 2003-07-14 at 16:52, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 07:15, Sharrea wrote: > > > > OICU! > > > > Second message that got through today...amazing... > > Yeah whats up. I have received a total of 9 messages since Friday... > > Is the Mandrake listserver down? I would assume that it's back alive now - now whether or not all the email SINCE Friday will come through is a different story. -- Tue Jul 15 10:55:01 EST 2003 10:55:01 up 1 day, 2:58, 2 users, load average: 0.23, 0.23, 0.19 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |========| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ & RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Humor in the Court: Q: Are you qualified to give a urine sample? A: Yes, I have been since early childhood. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] lm sensors is lying
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 09:55, Miark wrote: > lm80-i2c-0-2d > Adapter: SMBus Via Pro adapter at 5000 > Algorithm: Non-I2C SMBus adapter > +5V: +4.00 V (min = +4.50 V, max = +0.00 V) ALARM > VTT: +2.00 V (min = +1.71 V, max = +2.09 V) ALARM > +3.3V: +2.54 V (min = +2.97 V, max = +3.63 V) ALARM > +Vcore:+0.44 V (min = +2.52 V, max = +3.08 V) ALARM > +12V: +13.52 V (min = +10.80 V, max = +13.20 V) ALARM > -12V: -7.08 V (min = -8.56 V, max = -6.48 V) > -5V: -2.54 V (min = -3.38 V, max = -2.16 V) ALARM > fan1: 10629 RPM (min = 6000 RPM, div = 1) > fan2: 11344 RPM (min = 6000 RPM, div = 1) > temp: +127.00 °C (hot:limit = +6°C, hysteresis = +5°C) ALARM > (os: limit = +6°C, hysteresis = +5°C) ALARM > alarms: Board temperature input (LM75) ALARM > alarms: Chassis intrusion detection ALARM Firstly, I don't think your fans run at 10k+ rpm - unless it's a new fan that I ain't seen'ner'heard of yet... Secondly, are you sure you setup lm_sensors properly in the first place? It's not that it's hard, but it can be a bit confusing. You can always re-setup lm_sensors by re-running the sensors_detect script, and then following through with all the directions; I had to do this twice before it got right as I was getting basically the same BS as you just posted. Now that mine is setup properly and I know exactly how to go through with this every install, you should get something a bit more legible like the following: lm80-i2c-0-2d Adapter: SMBus Via Pro adapter at 0400 Algorithm: Non-I2C SMBus adapter +5V: +3.84 V (min = +5.53 V, max = +0.00 V) ALARM VTT: +1.43 V (min = +1.90 V, max = +1.67 V) ALARM +3.3V: +2.08 V (min = +3.13 V, max = +3.46 V) ALARM +Vcore:+1.27 V (min = +1.80 V, max = +1.99 V) ALARM +12V: +12.95 V (min = +11.37 V, max = +12.57 V) -12V: -6.21 V (min = -12.40 V, max = -11.20 V) -5V: -2.19 V (min = -5.16 V, max = -4.64 V) fan1: 10546 RPM (min = 6000 RPM, div = 1) ALARM fan2: 6818 RPM (min = 6783 RPM, div = 1) temp: -128.00 °C (hot:limit = +6°C, hysteresis = -82°C) ALARM (os: limit = -92°C, hysteresis = -31°C) ALARM alarms: Board temperature input (LM75) ALARM alarms: Chassis intrusion detection ALARM eeprom-i2c-0-50 Adapter: SMBus Via Pro adapter at 0400 Algorithm: Non-I2C SMBus adapter Memory type:SDRAM DIMM SPD Memory size (MB): 256 eeprom-i2c-0-51 Adapter: SMBus Via Pro adapter at 0400 Algorithm: Non-I2C SMBus adapter Memory type:SDRAM DIMM SPD Memory size (MB): 256 eeprom-i2c-0-52 Adapter: SMBus Via Pro adapter at 0400 Algorithm: Non-I2C SMBus adapter Memory type:SDRAM DIMM SPD Memory size (MB): 256 via686a-isa-0c00 Adapter: ISA adapter Algorithm: ISA algorithm CPU core: +1.42 V (min = +1.98 V, max = +2.49 V) ALARM +2.5V: +1.02 V (min = +2.36 V, max = +2.25 V) ALARM I/O: +3.25 V (min = +2.14 V, max = +2.86 V) ALARM +5V: +4.94 V (min = +4.92 V, max = +3.01 V) ALARM +12V: +11.74 V (min = +6.59 V, max = +10.79 V) ALARM CPU Fan: 3409 RPM (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) P/S Fan: 0 RPM (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) SYS Temp: +32.0°C (limit = +45°C, hysteresis = +40°C) CPU Temp: +30.3°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +55°C) SBr Temp: +21.4°C (limit = +65°C, hysteresis = +60°C) -- Tue Jul 15 10:25:01 EST 2003 10:25:01 up 1 day, 2:28, 2 users, load average: 0.07, 0.20, 0.24 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ & RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * All five-second grenade fuses will burn down in three seconds -- Murphy's Military Laws n118 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DbaseIV database to use in Mandrake 9.1
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 10:00, John Wilson wrote: > Klyix will do nicely. (For those living in Australia, the June edition of APC had Kylix3 for free included) > And don't mind Stephen..he's just ranting because he had to find something > else to do than read the list this weekend. I hear his lawn seriously > needed cutting. :-) It's winter. Lawn dunna need a'cuttin!! (g) ...but you're right, I did have to finish something I kept putting off...(my biz website) ...am I that predictable? -- Tue Jul 15 10:15:00 EST 2003 10:15:00 up 1 day, 2:18, 2 users, load average: 0.18, 0.29, 0.26 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |====| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ & RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Expedience is the best teacher. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] PETITION: HL for linux?
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 09:47, Miark wrote: > Incidentally, all you FPS gamers out there have -GOT- to see the Half-Life2 > trailer. You'll piss yer pants! > > Miark If I piss my pants, I don't mind much. I wear nappies just in case. -- Tue Jul 15 10:15:00 EST 2003 10:15:00 up 1 day, 2:18, 2 users, load average: 0.18, 0.29, 0.26 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ & RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Expedience is the best teacher. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DbaseIV database to use in Mandrake 9.1
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 08:44, aron smith wrote: > On Mon, 2003-07-14 at 15:02, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 07:42, JoeHill wrote: > > > On 15 Jul 2003 07:10:32 +1000 > > > Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > > > > > sucked into MySQL > > > > > > ouch! should you have your sql checked for blockages after? > > > > Hell, a "purge" dunt hurt no one! > It's up yehaa The list might be up, but what happened to all the mail from Friday till now? Did it get "voided"? -- Tue Jul 15 10:05:01 EST 2003 10:05:01 up 1 day, 2:08, 2 users, load average: 0.40, 0.36, 0.28 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ & RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * "Just out of curiosity does this actually mean something or have some of the few remaining bits of your brain just evaporated?" -- Patricia O Tuama, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] M9.1 and Mozilla 1.3
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 10:19, John Richard Smith wrote: > Is it me or has this version of mozilla got a bug in the count > mechanism > for the number of unread emails held in a folder. > > John We can look at it in two perspectives: 1.) It's you. 2.) Mozilla sucks Now, if it's 1.), then we need to explore how to resolve the issues within YOU in order to get everything sorted out nicely and have you operating at your maximum and optimal capacity. If it's 2.), then we need to convince you to use a better browser. -- Tue Jul 15 09:35:01 EST 2003 09:35:01 up 1 day, 1:38, 2 users, load average: 0.26, 0.26, 0.27 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |====| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ & RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * You're at Witt's End. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DbaseIV database to use in Mandrake 9.1
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 07:42, JoeHill wrote: > On 15 Jul 2003 07:10:32 +1000 > Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > sucked into MySQL > > ouch! should you have your sql checked for blockages after? Hell, a "purge" dunt hurt no one! -- Tue Jul 15 08:00:00 EST 2003 08:00:00 up 1 day, 3 min, 2 users, load average: 0.68, 0.49, 0.42 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |====| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ & RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Natural laws have no pity. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] test
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 07:15, Sharrea wrote: OICU! Second message that got through today...amazing... -- Tue Jul 15 07:50:00 EST 2003 07:50:00 up 23:53, 2 users, load average: 0.27, 0.29, 0.34 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ & RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * "Yo baby yo baby yo." -- Eddie Murphy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DbaseIV database to use in Mandrake 9.1
On Tue, 2003-07-15 at 06:03, Johan Scheepers wrote: > Hi > I have this dbase IV database which I use in Delphi 3. > > Can this DBF used in mdk9.1. > > Maybe how? > > Kylix3? > > I would really appreciate some pointers here please. > > Enjoy > Johan > > May this be a good day for learning Can't the database be sucked into MySQL and then used after that? -- Tue Jul 15 07:10:01 EST 2003 07:10:01 up 23:13, 2 users, load average: 0.24, 0.35, 0.36 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |========| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1+ & RH 9 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Most people need some of their problems to help take their mind off some of the others. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to get into BIOS on Compaq Deskpro [solved]
On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 16:36, JoeHill wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 22:35:57 -0700 > Eric Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > Setting the boot order isn't enough for you? > > luckily it already knew to boot from a CD...for the Win98 install. > > unfortunately (see other Compaq post), without a CD it will just NOT do > a network install, had to swap the CD eventually, install MDK, now X > won't start...lousy S3 Trio... Ahem...had to swap the CD, did ya? Wonder who told ya that from the BLOODY BEGINNING, hmmm? (g) -- Fri Jul 11 17:10:00 EST 2003 17:10:00 up 4 days, 18:42, 3 users, load average: 0.32, 0.11, 0.03 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |====| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * I woke up a feelin' mean went down to play the slot machine the wheels turned round, and the letters read "Better head back to Tennessee Jed" -- Grateful Dead Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to get into BIOS on Compaq Deskpro [solved]
On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 15:00, JoeHill wrote: > LOL, who needs more crummy Compaq crap on here anyway? > > New MDK 9.1 system booting as we speak, partitioned manually I might > add... course, my daughter could do that with an MDK install... > > I almost miss the days of fdisk. Uh, so you're saying you had to have your daughter do the installation for ya mate? (g) BTW, what was the issue, and how did you resolve it - for those of us that really want to know...??? -- Fri Jul 11 16:30:01 EST 2003 16:30:01 up 4 days, 18:02, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.06 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * The difference between a lawyer and a rooster is that the rooster gets up in the morning and clucks defiance. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] How to get into BIOS on Compaq Deskpro [solved]
On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 14:45, Frankie wrote: > Lol!!! > > Oh god, why do I talk to you... you are gonna get me in trouble again... Can't get in any deeper than y'all already jumped in the first time... > I certainly hope my reply to that question can't be deemed "unintelligable > and stupid", > not sure I can handle the critism a second time.. :-) Wait - you're almost married - living with a woman, right? You should have enough of a hide to be able to take it mate...(g) > Stephen, whatever you are smoking on the east coast of AU... can i have > some??? White Ox, mate. White Ox. > nothing good ever makes it over to WA.. :-) What, y'all ain't got White Ox over there? -- Fri Jul 11 15:45:00 EST 2003 15:45:00 up 4 days, 17:17, 3 users, load average: 0.08, 0.02, 0.01 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |====| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * "Are those cocktail-waitress fingernail marks?" I asked Colletti as he showed us these scratches on his chest. "No, those are on my back," Colletti answered. "This is where a case of cocktail shrimp fell on me. I told her to slow down a little, but you know cocktail waitresses, they seem to have a mind of their own." -- The Incredibly Monstrous, Mind-Roasting Summer of O.C. and Stiggs National Lampoon, October 1982 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Linux for the desktop
On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 15:28, Eric Huff wrote: > http://www.osafoundation.org/desktop-linux-overview.pdf > > Particular thanks go out to Waldo Bastian, Liu Bo, Jurgen Botz, Joseph Cheek, Laura > DiDio, Matthias Ettrich, Nat Friedman, Dwight G., Jody Goldberg, Joseph Hill, ... > > Is this our joe? Wouldn't reckon so, but either which, it's a wonderfully laid out document - definitely worth keeping and even printing out. -- Fri Jul 11 16:10:00 EST 2003 16:10:00 up 4 days, 17:42, 3 users, load average: 0.22, 0.21, 0.13 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * So... did you ever wonder, do garbagemen take showers before they go to work? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to get into BIOS on Compaq Deskpro
On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 04:10, JoeHill wrote: > On boot, I don't see any method for getting into the BIOS. > > I tried the usual "del", F1, ctrl-F1, etc. I just "keyboard error" and > it boots anyway. > > Anyone else have one of these, uh, fine machines? > > Hey, it was free, what can I say? Hold down the F10 button whilst booting up. -- Fri Jul 11 09:30:00 EST 2003 09:30:00 up 4 days, 11:02, 3 users, load average: 0.36, 0.35, 0.33 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |====| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Then, gently touching my face, she hesitated for a moment as her incredible eyes poured forth into mine love, joy, pain, tragedy, acceptance, and peace. "'Bye for now," she said warmly. -- Thea Alexander, "2150 A.D." Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] CD Drive REFUSES to work
On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 01:29, Michael wrote: > On Thursday 10 July 2003 07:19 am, Damian Gatabria wrote: > > just for fun, edit your lilo.conf so the "append" line > > looks like this: > > > > append="quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off ide1=nodma" > > > > > > then, in the command line, run `lilo`, and reboot. See if it > > keeps crashing. > > > > btw, i've been trying to run that command. i open up a terminal, su -, > password, then type "append="quiet devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off > ide1=nodma", then hit enter, then type "lilo", and a bunch of stuff comes up > that pretty much tells me it's rewriting all the append lines in the lilo > directory, then i reboot, and nothing in the illo directory has changed. > what am i doing wrong? You're supposed to manually edit the /etc/lilo.conf file and add the "append" line (or modify the existing one) with those params then run lilo. -- Fri Jul 11 09:25:00 EST 2003 09:25:00 up 4 days, 10:57, 3 users, load average: 0.29, 0.37, 0.34 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * BOFH excuse #364: Sand fleas eating the Internet cables Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to get into BIOS on Compaq Deskpro [solved]
On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 05:26, JoeHill wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 14:10:37 -0400 > JoeHill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > On boot, I don't see any method for getting into the BIOS. > > > > I tried the usual "del", F1, ctrl-F1, etc. I just "keyboard error" and > > it boots anyway. > > Answer: Can't be done, as suspected, Compaqs are shite. HOLD DOWN THE F10 WHILST BOOTING UP. -- Fri Jul 11 09:35:00 EST 2003 09:35:00 up 4 days, 11:07, 3 users, load average: 0.84, 0.51, 0.39 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * People who claim they don't let little things bother them have never slept in a room with a single mosquito. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Network activity indicator
On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 00:50, Burrows, Scott wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm using MDK 9.1. Love it. > > Is there any way to have a network activity indicator in the task bar at the > bottom, similar to to the two network computers that "turn on/off" when > there is network traffic on a Windoz box? > > That is one small feature about Windoz that I liked. > > Scott You should be able to find several different applets for the system tray or for the panel at http://apps.kde.com ...or any of the contrib mirrors -- Fri Jul 11 09:25:00 EST 2003 09:25:00 up 4 days, 10:57, 3 users, load average: 0.29, 0.37, 0.34 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |========| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * BOFH excuse #364: Sand fleas eating the Internet cables Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] File fragmentation?
On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 02:36, Brooks Family wrote: > How does linux handle file fragmentation and, thus, defragmentation? No need. Unless you're running a news server or a file server that has thousands and thousands of very small files, and that would be using Ext3 - else, you don't worry about it. -- Fri Jul 11 09:30:00 EST 2003 09:30:00 up 4 days, 11:02, 3 users, load average: 0.36, 0.35, 0.33 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Then, gently touching my face, she hesitated for a moment as her incredible eyes poured forth into mine love, joy, pain, tragedy, acceptance, and peace. "'Bye for now," she said warmly. -- Thea Alexander, "2150 A.D." Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Install Probs on old Compaq
On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 01:32, JoeHill wrote: > On 10 Jul 2003 22:42:07 +1000 > Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > > > Have you tried slamming an IDE CDROM in it and trying the installation > > again? Surely you can afford to knick one outta one of your other > > machines for 40 minutes, ay? > > but my uptime... LOL! > > actually, I was trying to demonstrate the "miracle" of a cd-less install > to a "customer". 1.) Check the connection between the chair and the keyboard. 2.) Can you try a different NIC? -- Fri Jul 11 09:25:00 EST 2003 09:25:00 up 4 days, 10:57, 3 users, load average: 0.29, 0.37, 0.34 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * BOFH excuse #364: Sand fleas eating the Internet cables Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to install vmware 4 after kernel 2.4.21-0.18mdkupdate
On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 05:51, Lucio_Costa wrote: > Thanks for Your help Stephen; > > Like a newbie i forgot to write this important detail, > sory my mistake... > > the erro is some thing like this: > Can find /usr/src/include > maybe this is not your default directory... > > I tried set this to /usr/src/linux-2.4.21.0-18mdk, and > the erro change to: your linux directory is ok but > one of this files or directory is not present [net], > [asm] and ... Make sure you install all the kernel sources and the dev packages; then you should be able to install it without a hitch. VMWare needs to have the kernel headers and sources in order to customise itself to your machine/system. -- Fri Jul 11 09:35:00 EST 2003 09:35:00 up 4 days, 11:07, 3 users, load average: 0.84, 0.51, 0.39 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |========| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * People who claim they don't let little things bother them have never slept in a room with a single mosquito. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Network activity indicator
On Fri, 2003-07-11 at 01:40, JoeHill wrote: > On Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:50:02 -0500 > "Burrows, Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > That is one small feature about Windoz that I liked. > > > > never, ever, mention windows features you liked! ever! > > jk > > anyway, there are many many dockapps, applets, doohickeys and whatnots > to do this for you. > > Gkrellm is the most popular, and is on your CDs, but look here for many > more: > > http://www.bensinclair.com/dockapp/ Nah, use KNETMON - it rocks. -- Fri Jul 11 09:25:00 EST 2003 09:25:00 up 4 days, 10:57, 3 users, load average: 0.29, 0.37, 0.34 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * BOFH excuse #364: Sand fleas eating the Internet cables Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How to install vmware 4 after kernel 2.4.21-0.18mdkupdate
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 22:14, Lucio_Costa wrote: > Greetings All. > > I format my last one Window$ machine and installed > MDK9.1, I updated all bugfix, security updates and > normal updates. After that, I couldn't install my > MVware 4. Did you ha ve any suggestion on how to make > it. What errors are you getting - or what exactly is going on when you try to install it? -- Thu Jul 10 23:40:00 EST 2003 23:40:00 up 4 days, 1:12, 3 users, load average: 0.34, 0.51, 0.60 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Don't compare floating point numbers solely for equality. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Installing new hardware
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 15:05, Wade Waldron wrote: > I would like to install hardware while bypassing the Mandrake > configuration utility. Can someone give me an idea where to start. > Basically the hardware is installed, I just need to make the system > aware of it and set up the drivers. > > Wade Bypassing the GUI or what? Because hardware detection is going to initiate during the bootup process, it's almost impossible. Unless you want to bypass logging into the GUI so that you can tailor the configuration prior to actually starting XWindows - but you'd have to put your system into runlevel 3 so that it starts up with all the normal multiuser services and processes; then you can start the GUI as desired? -- Thu Jul 10 22:25:00 EST 2003 22:25:00 up 3 days, 23:57, 2 users, load average: 0.02, 0.09, 0.08 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Garbage In -- Gospel Out. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Shutdown not possible
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 17:44, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > When I want to leave Gnome (using Mandrake 9.1) I get the message if I want > to log out or shutdown. Doesn't matter what I select, there is neither a > shutdown nor a logout that happens. I have to do a 'shutdown -h now' from a > terminal window. Strange - what if you just type "reboot" or "poweroff" - anything happen then? -- Thu Jul 10 22:35:00 EST 2003 22:35:00 up 4 days, 7 min, 2 users, load average: 0.16, 0.10, 0.09 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |========| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * The instruments of science do not in themselves discover truth. And there are searchings that are not concluded by the coincidence of a pointer and a mark. -- Fred Saberhagen, "The Berserker Wars" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Update not possible
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 17:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > After upgrading to Mandrake 9.1 I chosed 'Update Software' and got a list of > software that I could update over the network. I selected a few ones but > during the update I got messages that some libraries are needed and can't be > found (it's a large list). I assumed that all the stuff needed for update should > be on the server. > > I tried it again a few weeks later and than I got the message that the > server has no files at all for Mandrake 9.1. > > Did you experience similar problems? Any hints? You need to update the "sources" - so in the Mandrake Control Center, go to "Software Management" => "Software Sources Manager" => "Update" - and you can update the sources; that way, when you actually try to update the system, you're getting the proper listing. You should do this every so often as the update lists change... -- Thu Jul 10 22:35:00 EST 2003 22:35:00 up 4 days, 7 min, 2 users, load average: 0.16, 0.10, 0.09 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * The instruments of science do not in themselves discover truth. And there are searchings that are not concluded by the coincidence of a pointer and a mark. -- Fred Saberhagen, "The Berserker Wars" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake Install Probs on old Compaq
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 18:05, JoeHill wrote: > Gots me here a Compaq (shudder) Pentium 200, no CD. > > So I mosey on over and get a network install disk and it works up to the > point where it detects the NIC, fine, asks for DHCP, yup, loads the LAN > info fine, ie. gateway, DNS, get's an IP, etc. > > Then when it comes to "bringing up interface", it signal 11s, "install > exited abnormally" (duh). > > the logs show the successful loading of the NIC drivers, etc., then > > "receiver lock-up bug exists -- enabling workaround." > > it goes through some checks, passes all, then says: > > "receiver lock-up workaround activated." > > then nada. > > This is with an Intel Etherexpress Pro/100b NIC. > > With the 3Com 100BaseTX (Cyclone), go through the same process, only the > kernel messages are different, it signal 11s right after: > > scatter/gather enabled. h/w ckecksums enabled > > are both NICs just no good, or is there something else I can eliminate > first? I replaced the cable, just to be sure. Have you tried slamming an IDE CDROM in it and trying the installation again? Surely you can afford to knick one outta one of your other machines for 40 minutes, ay? -- Thu Jul 10 22:40:01 EST 2003 22:40:01 up 4 days, 12 min, 2 users, load average: 0.09, 0.11, 0.09 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * "The wages of sin are death; but after they're done taking out taxes, it's just a tired feeling:" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Konqueror doesn't start
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 17:40, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > > I'm using Mandrake 9.1. When I start Konqueror I get an error message that > Konqueror crashed and was killed and I'm asked if I want to send an error > report. No, I don't want. I cancel this window and try to start Konqueror again > but it doesn't start (no message now). It worked after upgrading to 9.1. > > With Netscape I know I can delete lockfiles and things like that. But I have > no idea what I could try with Konqueror. > > Any hints? In the /tmp directory, you should have some directories like /tmp/kde-yournamehere - you can login as root, delete those directories, then logoff and login as yourself again - THEN try to fire up Konq - you SHOULD be able to; see how that goes, mate. -- Thu Jul 10 22:35:00 EST 2003 22:35:00 up 4 days, 7 min, 2 users, load average: 0.16, 0.10, 0.09 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |====| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * The instruments of science do not in themselves discover truth. And there are searchings that are not concluded by the coincidence of a pointer and a mark. -- Fred Saberhagen, "The Berserker Wars" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] PPC Install
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 15:58, Mike "yomcat" Welsh wrote: > I want to know how to partition my drive while retaining all my current data > without losing anything. Auto allocate gives me an error about no RAM disk > or something like that. I got 384MB RAM. > > About the single root partition, are you saying that I can run it off my Mac > partition somehow? > > Last time, I partitioned the drive but lost all my info. The idea is NOT to use ONE partition. One partition is for the MacOS You have actually three partitions (if not more) So you're going to need a /boot partition and at least a / partition (aside from the partition where your MacOS lives) There's information about the PPC installation on the Mandrake site, and there used to be a few PPC users in here, but they're elsewhere now, or just playing invisible... -- Thu Jul 10 22:30:00 EST 2003 22:30:00 up 4 days, 2 min, 2 users, load average: 0.02, 0.08, 0.08 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |====| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * History repeats itself -- the first time as a tragi-comedy, the second time as bedroom farce. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How cool!
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 15:33, JoeHill wrote: > On 10 Jul 2003 14:52:42 +1000 > Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > are at least 50-80 ft... > > but once you *get* the Koala, I've heard they are a hot property, > IYKWIM. They're too furry and very hard to shave. I don't like fur, and they're impatient when you start spreading on the shaving gel. -- Thu Jul 10 22:30:00 EST 2003 22:30:00 up 4 days, 2 min, 2 users, load average: 0.02, 0.08, 0.08 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |========| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * History repeats itself -- the first time as a tragi-comedy, the second time as bedroom farce. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NEW EMAIL LIST INSTRUCTIONS
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 13:30, Anne Wilson wrote: > This is a linux list. A little light banter is fine, but I'm sick and > tired of the bandwidth wasted on this. If you want to continue, > PLEASE take it elsewhere > > Anne MOTHER HAS SPOKEN. -- Thu Jul 10 14:55:00 EST 2003 14:55:00 up 3 days, 16:27, 3 users, load average: 0.03, 0.07, 0.08 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * It is far more impressive when others discover your good qualities without your help. -- Miss Manners Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Weirdness - playing a video
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 10:41, kiosk wrote: > On 28 Jun 2003 23:32:08 +1000 > Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Cheers and Beers and morphine for the pink haired queers! (g) > > Here I go hijacking a thread. This reminds me of of a man who could go on > at great leangth with a spiel which went something like this: "cheers and > queers and heating engineers and bottles of beers and crocodile tears and > all those wasted years ..." and etc etc. I wonder, are you quoting? > > Ok, google may be my friend - believe me, I intend to do some googling on > this - but I wonder what insight you may have to offer with regard to the > excellent line above. > > > Best wishes and ... > > > Janet Blankfield > > > "The ideal love affair is one conducted by post." JBS Pink Hair => FemmeFatale Never heard that particular quote; I just started doing the "Cheers'n'beers" thing a few years ago (before I moved here and had to integrate the word 'cheers' into my vernacular)...as I used to state plainly "Hey man hey..." or just "Peace and Blessings"... ...but would love to see the entire quote at length! -- Thu Jul 10 14:49:59 EST 2003 14:49:59 up 3 days, 16:22, 3 users, load average: 0.32, 0.12, 0.10 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * YOU HAVE PERHAPS HEARD THE PHRASE THAT HELL IS OTHER PEOPLE? "Yes. Yes, of course." Death nodded. IN TIME, he said, YOU WILL LEARN THAT IT IS WRONG. (Small Gods) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How cool!
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 10:30, Aron Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 12:22, JoeHill wrote: > > On 09 Jul 2003 12:15:22 -0700 > > Aron Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> uttered: > > > > > Don't beleve it Koalas live in trees > > > > What, you can't climb trees? > Ain't worth the trouble. Even a small gum tree ain't worth the climb - too much work, too much trouble. Older gums are even worse. Now if the damn koalas turned around and started to like pine trees, that would be a different story. Small gums, especially around the rocky areas, are at least 50-80 ft... -- Thu Jul 10 14:49:59 EST 2003 14:49:59 up 3 days, 16:22, 3 users, load average: 0.32, 0.12, 0.10 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |====| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * YOU HAVE PERHAPS HEARD THE PHRASE THAT HELL IS OTHER PEOPLE? "Yes. Yes, of course." Death nodded. IN TIME, he said, YOU WILL LEARN THAT IT IS WRONG. (Small Gods) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] In-Wall home networking question
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 03:33, Paul Rodriguez wrote: > 2 White Steel boxes w/access panel (one for routers, etc. and a little > one for excess cable) > 1 24-port ethernet/phone panel > 1 4-port Internet Gateway > 3 8-port Ethernet Switches > and 1 little shelf for my cable/dsl modem > > I can also add on a surge protector and UPS. Having a 24 port hub is all you really need. Having the "Internet Gateway" and all the rest of that crap is unnecessary because you can share the internet connection from one machine to the rest. It sounds like a bit of overkill. But, by all means, having a 24 port 10/100 switching hub would be great for your network. The machine that actually connects to the "outside world" would only require that you have IPTABLES or IPCHAINS setup; probably a proxy for safe measures, and definitely a firewall. -- Thu Jul 10 08:10:01 EST 2003 08:10:01 up 3 days, 9:42, 3 users, load average: 0.32, 0.19, 0.12 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |========| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * genius, n.: Person clever enough to be born in the right place at the right time of the right sex and to follow up this advantage by saying all the right things to all the right people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] NEW EMAIL LIST INSTRUCTIONS
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 08:26, Frankie wrote: > lol > The "aussies" (your place of birth notwithstanding Stephen) are the cause of > this whole thing > since I posted what was sposed to be a semi humourous reply to your gun > comment... > I have been on this list for several years now > and this is the first flame war I have started > hopefully my last in retrospect.. > rgds > Franki Yeah, but I shoulda known not to play it out in the first place... -- Thu Jul 10 09:05:00 EST 2003 09:05:00 up 3 days, 10:37, 3 users, load average: 0.04, 0.03, 0.00 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |========| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * All the passions make us commit faults; love makes us commit the most ridiculous ones. -- La Rochefoucauld Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] 3 C's
On Thu, 2003-07-10 at 08:22, FemmeFatale wrote: > some of us find it fun to reinstall ya know...we learn that way too :D > > /me runs away vry fast! > - > FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Ah, Femme - but you're most likely an adherent to the 3B's! * Beating * Biting * Bitching -- Thu Jul 10 08:55:01 EST 2003 08:55:01 up 3 days, 10:27, 3 users, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.01 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * When a Banker jumps out of a window, jump after him--that's where the money is. -- Robespierre Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sylpheed and GPG
On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 21:10, Peter Meyns wrote: > Hi all, > > I installed sylpheed 0.9.2 from an RPM package on Mandrake 9.1. Now I want > it to use GPG, but I don't find where to implement it. The FAQ only offers > a way to implement GPG during compilation, but not how to do it with an > existing installation. > > BTW, where would sylpheed - or any other program at that - store its system > files (I haven't changed any defaults yet)? > > TIA Application specific files should be: binaries: /usr/bin defaults: /usr/share/sylpheedX user specific: ~/home/yournamehere/.sylpheed -- Thu Jul 10 08:00:00 EST 2003 08:00:00 up 3 days, 9:32, 2 users, load average: 0.31, 0.15, 0.10 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |========| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * I'm also against BODY-SURFING!! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] NEW EMAIL LIST INSTRUCTIONS
On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 20:56, Frankie wrote: > Stephen > Honest people are not permitted to own guns.. Well, you CAN own a gun if you register and pass the certs and all - but mostly people don't bother. Almost seems as though it's too much work to own a gun and keep it locked up and whatnot...(still pisses me off that I can't have a wrist-rocket like I did in Kentucky, tho) > The crims didn't have to hand in their guns and stuff cos they were not > registed in the first place.. Yeah, well, that's everywhere. > ahhh. I sometimes think you yanks are the only democracy that has some > semblance of "freedom" left, the rest of us are free to the extent that we > don't step out of the boundary's of the thousands of laws created by the > pollies in the hopes that some of them may be popular. Dunno - I feel hellu safer here than I ever did back in the US...and I reckon that in a four year span, I'da been picked up or arrested at least twice by now...and ain't even come close to that here. > anyway, that was all OT, so I will finish by saying that page was very cool. Ta. -- Thu Jul 10 07:25:00 EST 2003 07:25:00 up 3 days, 8:57, 3 users, load average: 0.04, 0.17, 0.11 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * "All bastards are bastards, but some bastards is *bastards*." (The Last Continent) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Need Drivers!
On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 09:28, Wade Waldron wrote: > I am trying to find a driver for a Microsoft MN-110 USB Ethernet > Adapter. I am not really sure where to look. Can anyone offer any > suggestions? Do drivers exist for this product (since it is Microsoft > after all). Is there a suitable substitute for a driver? > > Wade Are you sure the system hasn't already picked it up, but just not utilising it yet? Otherwise, GOOGLE can be your friend...along with heaps of linux driver sites... -- Wed Jul 9 10:05:00 EST 2003 10:05:00 up 2 days, 11:37, 2 users, load average: 0.20, 0.07, 0.08 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * And the crowd was stilled. One elderly man, wondering at the sudden silence, turned to the Child and asked him to repeat what he had said. Wide-eyed, the Child raised his voice and said once again, "Why, the Emperor has no clothes! He is naked!" - "The Emperor's New Clothes" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NEW EMAIL LIST INSTRUCTIONS
On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 09:20, JoeHill wrote: > Damn, I gotta subscribe to a lot more lists now, except of course the > "expert" and "hacker" lists, which do NOT apply to me, thank god. > > Thanks for making the lists more inclusive to people like me! (YOU were specifically in mind) ;) -- Wed Jul 9 09:50:01 EST 2003 09:50:01 up 2 days, 11:22, 2 users, load average: 0.10, 0.12, 0.15 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |====| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * The more general the title of a course, the less you will learn from it. -- Rominger's Rules for Students n1 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NEW EMAIL LIST INSTRUCTIONS
On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 08:41, N/A wrote: > I'M A COMPLETE IDIOT - SHOOT ME Heheheehewe're not allowed to have guns in Australia. > alright... uh... now i need to uninstall Outlook... can someone help me? FORMAT C: > Wait, what's RTF? HTML? anyone? RICH TEXT FORMAT; HYPERTEXT MARKUP LANGUAGE > ::sigh:: CASUAL INTAKE AND OUTPUT OF BREATH > oh well, I guess no one is going to help me because I didn't sign up right > and now I have to go reinstall my operating system... I wonder if that has > something to do with doctors I made my own "Home Lobotomy Kit" - worked like a charm. Ditto with the "Home Eletroshock Therapy Kit" - but did leave nasty scars on my temples. > Alright, I'm done. That was hilarious (the website, not my poor humor). I think that "poor humour" is a prerequisite for running linux in the first place. Those that have "poor humour" come to know linux, then they have either "sicker, more twisted, more cynical humour", or it's completely removed (See the RedHat User List for examples of that). -- Wed Jul 9 09:20:00 EST 2003 09:20:00 up 2 days, 10:52, 2 users, load average: 0.02, 0.10, 0.41 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Expert, n.: Someone who comes from out of town and shows slides. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NEW EMAIL LIST INSTRUCTIONS
On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 08:17, Dennis Myers wrote: > On Tuesday 08 July 2003 04:55 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > What - am I a serious person, or what? > > (Been meaning to get this up for a while, but forgot) > > > > http://thor.prohosting.com/~kilgoret/mandrake/ > > > > Cheers! > Dang, I fell outa my chair ROTFL! (Hope no one tries to sue me over this blatant stab...) (Not that you can get blood from a stone, mind you) -- Wed Jul 9 08:55:01 EST 2003 08:55:01 up 2 days, 10:27, 2 users, load average: 1.00, 1.08, 0.96 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |========| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Why be difficult when, with a bit of effort, you could be impossible? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] NEW EMAIL LIST INSTRUCTIONS
On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 08:47, H.J.Bathoorn wrote: > On Tuesday 08 July 2003 23:55, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > What - am I a serious person, or what? > > (Been meaning to get this up for a while, but forgot) > > > > http://thor.prohosting.com/~kilgoret/mandrake/ > > > > Cheers! > > Terrific Every now and then you show a touch of genius;o) > > You just made my day, especially the 404:o) > > Good Luck, > HarM Tanx mon...must be the lack of caffeine...(g) -- Wed Jul 9 09:15:01 EST 2003 09:15:01 up 2 days, 10:47, 2 users, load average: 0.13, 0.23, 0.57 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |========| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * "Jesus saves...but Gretzky gets the rebound!" -- Daniel Hinojosa ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How cool!
On Tue, 2003-07-08 at 09:25, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > On Monday 07 July 2003 03:30 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > > >>> snip > > > > IN REALITY; doesn't your ISP give you space to use along with your > > normal account...?? Y'all ain't got Thacker & Grigsby there, do ya? > > Stephen: > Thacker Is that the one of Thacker, Packer and McKinney fame? Dunno - but the family I was married into (Stewarts) were related to the Thackers AND the Grigsby's - of Knott County, KY; Thacker and Grigsby run the county's Telco (and some) - was just wondering if they expanded their horizon beyond Knott County yet...as I do know they've got cable and ADSL... > Incidentally, I thought Australians used dogs for blankets, as in Three Dog > Night. Dog we got is way to small to use as a blanket - a pillow, maybe, or a blanket for a very very small human - without arms'n'legs - or torso... > As for sheep: "Ahh, ***, where the men are men, and the sheep are > nervous", where *** is from the set [Australia, Scotland, Montana]. Aussies generally say that the NZ'ers are the ones that make the sheep nervous...over here, well, it's probably 'roos and koalas... -- Wed Jul 9 07:20:00 EST 2003 07:20:00 up 2 days, 8:52, 2 users, load average: 0.09, 0.26, 0.32 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * A great many people think they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices. -- William James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mozilla disappears when trying to Print
On Tue, 2003-07-08 at 23:34, Bob Read wrote: > More data: I've found that the print problem is only with > email. Web pages print ok, and Everything prints ok for > other users on the same box. (Puzzler ! ) > Bob So have you determined as to if Moz is actually crashing/dumping when this happens, or actually DOES disappear? -- Wed Jul 9 07:55:00 EST 2003 07:55:00 up 2 days, 9:27, 2 users, load average: 0.40, 0.40, 0.37 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Gay shlafen: Yiddish for "go to sleep". Now doesn't "gay shlafen" have a softer, more soothing sound than the harsh, staccato "go to sleep"? Listen to the difference: "Go to sleep, you little wretch!" ... "Gay shlafen, darling." Obvious, isn't it? Clearly the best thing you can do for you children is to start speaking Yiddish right now and never speak another word of English as long as you live. This will, of course, entail teaching Yiddish to all your friends, business associates, the people at the supermarket, and so on, but that's just the point. It has to start with committed individuals and then grow Some minor adjustments will have to be made, of course: those signs written in what look like Yiddish letters won't be funny when everything is written in Yiddish. And we'll have to start driving on the left side of the road so we won't be reading the street signs backwards. But is that too high a price to pay for world peace? I think not, my friend, I think not. -- Arthur Naiman, "Every Goy's Guide to Yiddish" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] NEW EMAIL LIST INSTRUCTIONS
What - am I a serious person, or what? (Been meaning to get this up for a while, but forgot) http://thor.prohosting.com/~kilgoret/mandrake/ Cheers! -- Wed Jul 9 07:50:01 EST 2003 07:50:01 up 2 days, 9:22, 2 users, load average: 0.19, 0.29, 0.35 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * There are only two kinds of men -- the dead and the deadly. -- Helen Rowland Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] rar files
On Wed, 2003-07-09 at 02:33, Curt Tresenriter wrote: > I decided I want to play with Deb, but need to deal with a rar file to > get started. > Do I need to buy rar or is there another way to decompress the file? > Looked like mc would do it but when I try to open the file an error > tells me it can't find /user/share/mc/extfs/unrar: line 27: rar: command > not found. > > In case it matters the extfs throws me too - I'm using Reiser fs > Curt You don't need to buy rar. Just download it and install it. Case closed. -- Wed Jul 9 07:55:00 EST 2003 07:55:00 up 2 days, 9:27, 2 users, load average: 0.40, 0.40, 0.37 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |========| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Gay shlafen: Yiddish for "go to sleep". Now doesn't "gay shlafen" have a softer, more soothing sound than the harsh, staccato "go to sleep"? Listen to the difference: "Go to sleep, you little wretch!" ... "Gay shlafen, darling." Obvious, isn't it? Clearly the best thing you can do for you children is to start speaking Yiddish right now and never speak another word of English as long as you live. This will, of course, entail teaching Yiddish to all your friends, business associates, the people at the supermarket, and so on, but that's just the point. It has to start with committed individuals and then grow Some minor adjustments will have to be made, of course: those signs written in what look like Yiddish letters won't be funny when everything is written in Yiddish. And we'll have to start driving on the left side of the road so we won't be reading the street signs backwards. But is that too high a price to pay for world peace? I think not, my friend, I think not. -- Arthur Naiman, "Every Goy's Guide to Yiddish" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie]
On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 01:08, Chris Miller wrote: > subscribe newbie cigarette roll -- Wed Jul 9 07:15:00 EST 2003 07:15:00 up 2 days, 8:47, 2 users, load average: 0.17, 0.33, 0.34 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * You're dead, Jim. -- McCoy, "The Tholian Web", stardate unknown Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How cool!
On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 15:11, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Monday 07 July 2003 12:35 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > > Can you say "SLACKER" - Hmmm? (g) > > If you had seen how much grass I cut today (and no, its not "harvest" time! > ), you sure wouldn't say that... :-) When I lived in Hindman, I let a mate keep goats on the property. This resolved two issues - 1.) Where he could keep his goats, and 2.) How to keep the grass on the sides of the holler manageable. Cost to me: ZERO ...and guess how much it cost me to plow my 5 acres of bottom in the holler? ZERO. Gave a mate a complete system and secured my plowing for two years (any time I wanted it done). ...and guess how much it cost to clear off all the poplars, walnuts, pines, birches, oaks and a few cherry trees? ZERO. The mill came and cut'em up, and I got half the profits. HA (grin) Now I didn't mind getting out once in a while with a scythe to get some exercise, but that was by choice, mate. Either to stretch a few muscles or to clear a bad hangover. Meanwhile, back on the topic of pictures and websites - why not get something free like the MSN community and post yer piccies up there Ron? -- Mon Jul 7 21:50:00 EST 2003 21:50:00 up 23:22, 3 users, load average: 0.90, 0.60, 0.44 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |========| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * "That's where I saw the Leprchaun. He tells me to burn things!" --Ralph Wiggum This Little Wiggy (Episode 5F13) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How cool!
On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 14:29, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Sunday 06 July 2003 04:47 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 01:07, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > > > Or got to Cyberguys and grab that same kinda kit for about $14.95. Thats > > > what I did, its sitting in my desktop case right now. Pics for anyone who > > > wants any! :-) > > > > What - ya ain't got a site to stick'em up at mate? > > Nah, never got around to it - always been on my list of things "to do". :-) Can you say "SLACKER" - Hmmm? (g) -- Mon Jul 7 14:35:01 EST 2003 14:35:01 up 16:07, 3 users, load average: 0.80, 0.35, 0.20 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Dentist, n.: A Prestidigitator who, putting metal in one's mouth, pulls coins out of one's pockets. -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How cool!
On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 01:07, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > Or got to Cyberguys and grab that same kinda kit for about $14.95. Thats what > I did, its sitting in my desktop case right now. Pics for anyone who wants > any! :-) What - ya ain't got a site to stick'em up at mate? -- Mon Jul 7 06:45:01 EST 2003 06:45:01 up 8:17, 2 users, load average: 1.00, 1.04, 1.03 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Old age is the harbor of all ills. -- Bion Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How cool!
On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 00:56, Lanman wrote: > They get winter down there? Next thing you'll be telling us is that they have giant > mice with large tails, hopping around on 2 legs! > > Grin! Grin! > > Lanman (g)then I won't tell ya dot mon! -- Mon Jul 7 06:45:01 EST 2003 06:45:01 up 8:17, 2 users, load average: 1.00, 1.04, 1.03 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Old age is the harbor of all ills. -- Bion Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How cool!
On Mon, 2003-07-07 at 00:20, ed tharp wrote: > I reeally like the duct-tape mod, I just sent the URL to MaximumPC > for their contest,,, good luck > http://www.maximumpc.com/features/feature_2003-06-25.html Hehehehe...yeah - with all the completely and totally awesome case mods out there, I'm sure mine will get at least a laugh - I still laugh at it...and duct tape RULES! (If you can't fix it with duct tape and bailing wire, it can't be fixed!) > and a life?? I will stand up and loudly proclaim, Stephen, you, and > everyone that has taken the time to download a picture of ANY case mod, > (much less those that you can read the writing on the chips) has NO > life, needs to find one right away. > In fact, it is on my list of things to do, and moving up in importance. My wife sits over at her computer and tells me the same thing. She's trying to prioritise "having a life" as well...(same with having sex)...it's somewhere on the list... The kids think I'm nuts. Drilling holes in metal, building an air compressor (industrial strength) just to blow dust out of machines and spray paint casings, ripping apart hard drives and making 5v helicopters (gee, that's one I need to take pictures of!), ripping apart old systems and scavenging all the nuts, bolts, risers, power supplies, fans... (More fun than watching cricket) -- Mon Jul 7 00:30:01 EST 2003 00:30:01 up 2:02, 2 users, load average: 1.17, 1.13, 1.09 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * NT (as in Windows NT) is short for "Not Trustworthy". Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] How cool!
On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 23:58, Lanman wrote: > Stephen; Correct me if I'm wrong, but are those "Wallabee's" you've got on in the > picture? Grin! Grin! On a different note, I'm trying to understand why you'd have a > fan blowing cool air onto a Thermaltake Volcano7 that's trying to blow air OUT of > the box, mate? Aren't you forcing air back and forth towards each other? Wouldn't it > be better to reverse the external fan so that it helps the Volcano expel warm air to > the outside of the box? > > And what's this about not having a life? You've got us, mate! LOL! > > Seriously, though,nice shoes! > > Lanman Ok - wallabies live near rocky places - they're smaller version of the kangaroo - here, on the flood plain below the 400+ metre escarpment, we'd have "regular" kangaroos - if it weren't for civilisation... Anyways, the Thermaltake forces air down from the fan THROUGH the block - the fan on the outside of the case is forcing air DOWN THROUGH to the Thermaltake...the fan next to the Thermaltake is sucking air OUT of the case...the fan near the lower front of the case is blowing air towards the front of the case - to cause the flow of air to not "deaden" below the hard drives. The PSU fan is also sucking air out of the case. I've got another 120mm fan - same as the one already mounted outside of the case - that I'm going to mount so that it would be forcing air into the lower front section, with a PVC elbow that's cut and modded to then force the air UP at the HD's, and have an 80mm fan mounted in the top plate of the case to suck exhaust out and up. I've created a 'filter' from a postoffice CD envelope with a piece of foam in it that sits over the 120mm fan - to limit dust going into the case - and have another for the next fan. With the current fan/filter setup, there really wasn't much dust in the case - mostly in the PSU because it's, well, cluttered, and doesn't have very good airflow. My next PSU is going to have the ducted fan that sits above the actual PSU - sucking the dust/hot air out (as hot air rises, ay?). If I had the cash, I'd try to do a watercooling setup - but that's like $300 - and well, I got kids...so I can't justify it to the wife. This fan, the Thermaltake Volcano 7, I justified because the guy at the fair wanted $45, and I pulled out $35 and said "Hey man, this is all I got" and well, he took it...(I'm sure he still made money on it...) - and it's a much better fan than the one that came from Intel with the Celery, er, Celeron... My goal is to have the CPU live at 20C - and since this is just a cheapo case that I can hack/whack to death (and I've got heaps of case parts laying around) I'm trying to come up with "forced air cooling" techniques for doing so...I'm also trying to build a "forced air box" that would have four 120mm fans forcing air through a 2.5cm tube directly onto the CPU block assembly, and another 2.5cm tube blasting directly onto the hard drives...(might even remove the HD's from the system and put them into another box and cool them seperately...) Fun fun fun... -- Mon Jul 7 00:15:01 EST 2003 00:15:01 up 1:47, 2 users, load average: 1.48, 1.28, 1.13 ----- |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Things past redress and now with me past care. -- William Shakespeare, "Richard II" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] teste
On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 22:58, Charles A Edwards wrote: > On 06 Jul 2003 16:56:47 +1000 > Stephen Kuhn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ah, yer right. We need to have Sho Kushugi in there somewhere... > > > He was Ninja > Toshiro Mifune was THE samurai Damn - I completely forgot about HIM - and damn, he was awesome - that stone face...those sideburns (not joking - he looked staunch and strong as an ox, mate) -- Sun Jul 6 23:45:01 EST 2003 23:45:01 up 1:17, 2 users, load average: 1.35, 1.22, 0.82 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Forrest Gump: "Now you wouldn't believe me if I told you, but I could run like the wind blows. From that day on, if I was ever going somewhere, I was running!!" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] How cool!
Just had to share these stats with y'all; purchased a new CPU fan today - a Thermaltake Volcano 7 - so that coupled with the 120mm fan I mounted just above where the CPU sits - blowing directly down onto the CPU assembly (I cut a hole in the case side and mounted the fan outside of the case - it's an industrial 400 cubic metres per hour model) gives me the following nice stats: - CPU Fan: 3154 RPM (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2) SYS Temp: +30.5°C (limit = +45°C, hysteresis = +40°C) CPU Temp: +29.2°C (limit = +60°C, hysteresis = +55°C) SBr Temp: +20.7°C (limit = +65°C, hysteresis = +60°C) hddtemp /dev/hda: ST340016A: 29°C hddtemp /dev/hdb: ST340824A: 32°C - Pictures of the case/mod will be posted after I'm done getting the images down to a manageable size...in a few hours I reckon...(g) http://thor.prohosting.com/~kilgoret/casemod/ Who says I don't have a life? -- Sun Jul 6 22:50:00 EST 2003 22:50:00 up 22 min, 2 users, load average: 1.72, 0.61, 0.32 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Never mind the bullet with your name on it, try to avoid the shrapnel addressed to occupant -- Murphy's New Military Laws n4 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] teste
On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 11:00, Carroll Grigsby wrote: > On Saturday 05 July 2003 08:23 pm, Aron Smith wrote: > > On Sat, 2003-07-05 at 16:11, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > > On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 08:54, Josenildo Marques wrote: > > > > Steven Spielberg is using Linux. > > > > > > ...but what's he run on his laptop? > > > > A Drunken Irishman and now for a wee drop. > > Isn't the expression "drunken Irishman" redundant? > -- cmg Yeah - like 'whinging pom', 'arrogant yank', 'confused woman', 'expensive Ferrari'...(g) -- Sun Jul 6 16:50:01 EST 2003 16:50:01 up 53 min, 2 users, load average: 0.90, 0.77, 0.43 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * (over phone) Scully: ... the very idea of intelligent alien life is not only astronomically improbable, but at its most basic level, downright anti-Darwinian. Mulder: Scully, what are you wearing? "The X-Files: War of the Coprophages" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samba Print problem
On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 10:56, Chuck Stuettgen wrote: > Samba has a default setting of a maximum 1000 print jobs per queue. > You can see this by running the following command: > > testparm /etc/samba/smb.conf. > > > You can override default setting by adding Max Print Jobs = xx to your smb.conf > file which I have done but the queue still will not hold more than 1000 print jobs. > > > > Until I can figure out how to get the queue to hold more than 1000 print jobs, I > have created 5 additional hold queues all servicing the same printer and we have > modified the script that creates the print jobs to the spread the jobs among all the > queues. ...but that's like a bandage... I'm trying to read up on some Samba print things at the moment so that I get a better understanding of how Samba deals with issues like this one discussed - but in the meantime, have you posted this to the Samba list for John Terpstra to check out? Might be something they've either found a way to patch, or something that might be taken care of in Samba v3... -- Sun Jul 6 16:40:00 EST 2003 16:40:00 up 43 min, 2 users, load average: 0.09, 0.18, 0.14 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |========| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * The rule on staying alive as a program manager is to give 'em a number or give 'em a date, but never give 'em both at once. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: hitch hikers guide... WAS: Re: [newbie] Window$ free -follow-up
On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 12:00, The Other wrote: > 07/05/03 > > Hello Stephen, > > I don't know. When I get the drive back so I can reinstall > Bamboo, I'll be looking for the Linux version of Hack, or NetHack > if it was officially called that. > > Do you think playing Hack was ever intelligent? Addictive yes, > but intelligent? ;) > > The Other Point is - it makes you THINK - not just react. -- Sun Jul 6 16:50:01 EST 2003 16:50:01 up 53 min, 2 users, load average: 0.90, 0.77, 0.43 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |========| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * (over phone) Scully: ... the very idea of intelligent alien life is not only astronomically improbable, but at its most basic level, downright anti-Darwinian. Mulder: Scully, what are you wearing? "The X-Files: War of the Coprophages" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] teste
On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 14:04, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Saturday 05 July 2003 07:49 pm, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > > > > But are YOU, Kaj, going to make a movie with it? > > > > > > If I could Stephen, it would be the old, classical western with > > > the good guys (white hats) against the bad guys (M$-hats) and > > > the final shoot-out at the GPL-Corall. > > > > > > Kaj Haulrich. > > > > Gosh - that just brought a tear to my eye(sniff) > > What? No Samuri? Ah, yer right. We need to have Sho Kushugi in there somewhere... -- Sun Jul 6 16:55:01 EST 2003 16:55:01 up 58 min, 2 users, load average: 0.15, 0.36, 0.33 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Bognor has always meant to me the quintessential English seaside experience (before all this global warming stuff): driving in the rain to get there, walking around in the rain looking for something to do when you're there, and driving home in the rain again... (alt.fan.pratchett) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: hitch hikers guide... WAS: Re: [newbie] Window$ free -follow-up
On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 08:15, bascule wrote: > and for those who never played: > http://www.douglasadams.com/creations/infocomjava.html > > bascule This kinda stuff is going to begin a time wasting revolution; goodbye to 3D accelerated games and FPS's - we're digressing to simpler, more intelligent times...(or one would hope). -- Sun Jul 6 09:05:00 EST 2003 09:05:00 up 3 days, 22:25, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.04, 0.06 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Humorix Holiday Gift Idea #3 iTux Penguin Computer Price: $999.95 for base model Producer: Orange Computer, Co.; 1-800-GET-ITUX Based on the Slashdot comments, response to the Apple iMac from the Linux community was lukewarm at best. Orange Computer, Co., has picked up where Apple left behind and produced the iTux computer specifically for Linux users who want to "Think a lot different". The self-contained iTux computer system is built in the shape of Tux the Penguin. Its 15 inch monitor (17 inch available next year) is located at Tux's large belly. The penguin's two feet make up the split ergonomic keyboard (without those annoying Windows keys, of course). A 36X CD-ROM drive fits into Tux's mouth. Tux's left eye is actually the reboot button (can be reconfigured for other purposes since it is rarely used) and his right eye is the power button. The iTux case opens up from the back, allowing easy access for screwdriver-wielding nerds into Tux's guts. The US$995.95 model contains an Alpha CPU and all the usual stuff found in a Linux-class machine. More expensive models, to be debuted next year, will feature dual or quad Alpha CPUs and a larger size. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] teste
On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 08:54, Josenildo Marques wrote: > Steven Spielberg is using Linux. ...but what's he run on his laptop? -- Sun Jul 6 09:10:00 EST 2003 09:10:00 up 3 days, 22:30, 2 users, load average: 0.19, 0.26, 0.16 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Mary Tyler Moore's SEVENTH HUSBAND is wearing my DACRON TANK TOP in a cheap hotel in HONOLULU! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] startup help
On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 06:15, T C wrote: > I had an unexpected problem occur today. When attempting to bootup the > boot process will make it to "Starting system logger" and stops, it > does not progress beyond this point. I'm pretty new at this and looking > at the boot logs hasn't revealed anything to my inexperienced eye. > What's going on here? What should I be looking at or for to help me > solve this problem? > Thank you for your assistance. > > Terry What happens if you let it sit there for a while - does it start up then? Meanwhile, if all else, you can boot off the install CD, hit F1 and then try a "linux rescue" - not necessarily to do any repairs, but to see if you can properly mount the root filesystem - and if so, then reboot and see what happens again during a normal bootup. -- Sun Jul 6 09:00:00 EST 2003 09:00:00 up 3 days, 22:20, 2 users, load average: 0.10, 0.14, 0.10 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |====| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * A healthy male adult bore consumes each year one and a half times his own weight in other people's patience. -- John Updike Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Samba Print problem
On Sun, 2003-07-06 at 04:10, Chuck Stuettgen wrote: > Anyone know how to increase the maximum number of print jobs under > LPRNG and Samba to something above 1000? > > We need to be able to spool 6000 print jobs to a queue that is in a > HOLDALL status. When the spool gets to 1000 it starts discarding the > printjobs. > > I have increased both the "Max Print Jobs" and "Total Print Jobs" > parameters in the smb.conf to ridiculously high numbers and restarted > samba and the testparm command shows the new settings, but the jobs > are still being discarded... Any print job is going to be temporarily held in the /var directory - first, how much space is on /var ? Another thing to think about is what "backend" is it using - CUPS? LPRNG? - you might need to address the backend driver for that. So, between the actual printer memory, space on /var and the backend driver, you should be able to get the printer to spool as much as you want... -- Sun Jul 6 08:55:00 EST 2003 08:55:00 up 3 days, 22:15, 2 users, load average: 0.37, 0.24, 0.12 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |====| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * optimist, n.: A proponent of the belief that black is white. A pessimist asked God for relief. "Ah, you wish me to restore your hope and cheerfulness," said God. "No," replied the petitioner, "I wish you to create something that would justify them." "The world is all created," said God, "but you have overlooked something -- the mortality of the optimist." -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] fix sis900 networkcard to 10 mbit
On Sat, 2003-07-05 at 23:36, Rob van Dam wrote:
> I have a network over a 10 mbit network cable (4 wires). My sis900 only
> works when I switch of autodetect and fix the card to 10 mbit.
>
> Does anyone know how to do this?
You should be able to do it with using the utility "ethtool" - or by
changing the options for the card's module in the /etc/modules.conf
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Re: [newbie] New hard drive
On Sat, 2003-07-05 at 11:18, Jon wrote: > HI, > > One of my hard drives is starting to bite the dust and I'll be replacing with > a newer hard drive. Since the old drive consists of both linux and windows > partitions and I want to copy the data across to the new hard drive (which is > bigger) how do you do it? Also what's the correct sequence in formatting the > hard drive? If this is covered in a FAQ somewhere then please just point me > in the appropriate direction. Thanks. > > Jon. There are several strategies that you can follow - but I'd need to clarify what you mean by "copy the data over" - what, just /home directories? And how do you plan on laying out the data on the disk in the first place? Just checking mate. -- Sat Jul 5 14:15:00 EST 2003 14:15:00 up 3 days, 3:35, 2 users, load average: 0.22, 0.27, 0.26 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |========| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * What they say: What they mean: New Different colors from previous version. All New Not compatible with previous version. Exclusive Nobody else has documentation. Unmatched Almost as good as the competition. Design Simplicity The company wouldn't give us any money. Fool-proof OperationAll parameters are hard-coded. Advanced Design Nobody really understands it. Here At LastDidn't get it done on time. Field TestedWe don't have any simulators. Years of DevelopmentFinally got one to work. Unprecedented Performance Nothing ever ran this slow before. Revolutionary Disk drives go 'round and 'round. Futuristic Only runs on a next generation supercomputer. No Maintenance Impossible to fix. Performance Proven Worked through Beta test. Meets Tough Quality Standards It compiles without errors. Satisfaction Guaranteed We'll send you another pack if it fails. Stock Item We shipped it before and can do it again. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Sound problem on new Dell 4600
On Sat, 2003-07-05 at 05:53, Paul wrote: > Just checked the BIOS, to be sure of being sure. The internal sound is > indeed ON. (Making things even more obscure...) > > Hmmm... If things don't get better soon, I am going to rip the SB64 out > of the old PC and stick that in this machine. I know that one always > worked. > > Thanks for the help! > > Paul Is it safe to assume that y'all have checked all mixer settings - kmix, alsamixergui, aumix - all that jazz? And run /usr/sbin/sndconfig ?? ...just checking... -- Sat Jul 5 11:30:00 EST 2003 11:30:00 up 3 days, 50 min, 2 users, load average: 0.48, 0.49, 0.44 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |========| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * "Unibus timeout fatal trap program lost sorry" - An error message printed by DEC's RSTS operating system for the PDP-11 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Window$ free -follow -up
On Sat, 2003-07-05 at 03:53, Ronald J. Hall wrote: > On Friday 04 July 2003 12:11 pm, FemmeFatale wrote: > > > Hm... solitaire... my g/f plays that...but i don't ever play those silly > > little games. Why is it a g/f will play it but not you? :D > > > > Have fun > > - > > FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt > > So...Femme...what *games* do you play? > > Master and Servant -- Sat Jul 5 11:10:00 EST 2003 11:10:00 up 3 days, 30 min, 2 users, load average: 0.24, 0.30, 0.34 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |========| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * When a Banker jumps out of a window, jump after him--that's where the money is. -- Robespierre Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Window$ free -follow -up
On Sat, 2003-07-05 at 02:11, FemmeFatale wrote: > I envy you. :) > > Hm... solitaire... my g/f plays that...but i don't ever play those silly > little games. Why is it a g/f will play it but not you? :D > > Have fun > - > FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt Ever since I started setting up/selling computers to the public, I've found that you have to entice the customer specifically by gender. Not a joke, no humour about it. It's a reality. To fire up interest in a man, show them "shoot'em up" games, racing games, sometimes technical stuff, and definitely pr0n. To fire up interest in a woman, show them chat facilities, something to write on (a word processor), email and card games - specifically solitaire type games. Unless someone has a purely technical bend, or specifically want to purchase a computer for a particular reason, those two strategies are what catches each gender. BTW, back in 1992 I taught a class for teachers - about computers and using computers. I started the first week of the class by making people play Solitaire, Minesweeper and "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy". Nothing technical. Just how to use the mouse and the keyboard, open the application, close the application. No big words, no technical jargon. I had quite a bit more success with my class than did three other teachers - my class scored the highest, and became fairly knowledgeable and proficient on using computers. I didn't tell the other three teachers my secret. -- Sat Jul 5 11:05:00 EST 2003 11:05:00 up 3 days, 25 min, 2 users, load average: 0.51, 0.37, 0.37 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * There is no TRUTH. There is no REALITY. There is no CONSISTENCY. There are no ABSOLUTE STATEMENTS. I'm very probably wrong. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [newbie] Hit counter for a web page.
On Sat, 2003-07-05 at 00:25, Frankie wrote: > Thanks Sharrea, > > much appreciated > > When I wrote it, I couldn't believe someone hadn't already done it like > that.. > I'm in the middle of writting more webmaster scripts like that, wasn't > prepared for them to be so popular. > > anyway, thanks.. :-) > > rgds > > Franki Just goes to show ya that Aussies are good for something, ya reckon? -- Sat Jul 5 10:50:00 EST 2003 10:50:00 up 3 days, 10 min, 2 users, load average: 0.87, 0.63, 0.38 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |====| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * The Second Law of Thermodynamics: If you think things are in a mess now, just wait! -- Jim Warner Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Password Protection?
On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 23:36, Cody Harris wrote: > >Why in the world would you want that? If a user is logged in, he or she > >has authenticated. Add the user to a group and be done with it! > > But can a user belong to more then one group? Yes. -- Sat Jul 5 10:50:00 EST 2003 10:50:00 up 3 days, 10 min, 2 users, load average: 0.87, 0.63, 0.38 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * The Second Law of Thermodynamics: If you think things are in a mess now, just wait! -- Jim Warner Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Password Protection?
On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 23:16, Cody Harris wrote: > At 11:14 PM 7/4/2003 +1000, you wrote: > >On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 22:47, Cody Harris wrote: > > > At 12:54 PM 7/4/2003 +1000, you wrote: > > > >On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 11:57, Cody Harris wrote: > > > > > Is there a way to impose a type of password protection onto folders? > > > > > > > > > > -Cody Harris > > > > > > > >Yes. > > > > > > How? > > > >One way is by creating specific GROUPS with specific access rights to > >specific folders - and actually, using something like Webmin and KUser > >are great for this... > > But that's not "Please enter a password to gain access" You need to more fully describe the situation in which this is used. -- Fri Jul 4 23:30:00 EST 2003 23:30:00 up 2 days, 12:50, 2 users, load average: 0.08, 0.04, 0.01 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * October 12, the Discovery. It was wonderful to find America, but it would have been more wonderful to miss it. -- Mark Twain, "Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Password Protection?
On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 22:47, Cody Harris wrote: > At 12:54 PM 7/4/2003 +1000, you wrote: > >On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 11:57, Cody Harris wrote: > > > Is there a way to impose a type of password protection onto folders? > > > > > > -Cody Harris > > > >Yes. > > How? One way is by creating specific GROUPS with specific access rights to specific folders - and actually, using something like Webmin and KUser are great for this... -- Fri Jul 4 23:10:01 EST 2003 23:10:01 up 2 days, 12:30, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.06, 0.03 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |========| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * Never say no -- Murphy's Laws on Sex n45 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Mandrake juice, anyone?
On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 16:31, Eric Huff wrote: > > > > the latest idesk is really nice too, gonna try it out today... > > > > > > Tell me how it goes. So far i have been using rox. > > > > idesk should be better, less interference with Pek, I can still use my > > wallpaper script instead of that clunky pinboard... > > I never noticed before that nautilus takes over your desktop! (their example icon > fires up nautilus). > > Actually, it happens in pekwm, too. It is nice being able to drag files to the > desktop, though. > Don't like to keep them there, but when i'm just messin around, it's handy to stick > 'em there... > > eric If you're hell-bound and determined to have a desktop that you can drag icons to and from, try ROX's desktop along with ROX-Filer - you might find that it's easier overall on resources, and definitely faster in response. -- Fri Jul 4 16:45:00 EST 2003 16:45:00 up 2 days, 6:05, 3 users, load average: 0.18, 0.18, 0.22 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * "It's a god-eat-god world." (Small Gods) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSl up but
On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 12:42, Aron Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 18:36, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 10:58, Aron Smith wrote: > > > DSL line up working and configured Mandrake does it again > > > Please note new email address. > > > thats the good news > > > bought a netgear RP614 Firewall router cannot get it to play nice with > > > my DSL modem(ZyXEL 600) any Ideas gang? > > > > Is the DSL modem "stand alone" ? > yes it is is shorewall sufficient to protect your system? Roger that mate. -- Fri Jul 4 13:10:00 EST 2003 13:10:00 up 2 days, 2:30, 3 users, load average: 0.41, 0.29, 0.28 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GIT d-- s:- a+ C UL P+ L+++ E W++ N++ o-- K--- w--- O++ M+ V PS+++ PE Y++ PGP- t+++ 5+++ X+++ R+ tv b+++ DI+++ D++ G++ e+ h r+++ y+++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- Be a better psychiatrist and the world will beat a psychopath to your door. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Hit counter for a web page.
On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 12:06, Dennis Myers wrote: > Does anyone know of a site or book that I can get to build a hit counter on my > web page? I have been using a commercial counter that was free if I allowed > their small add but now they are going to full charge and I can not afford > that for our small business. So I want to build a hit counter and have it on > my server in I am guessing the cgi.bin. Any suggestions or point me in the > right directions? I have googled all over the place, and no luck. TIA Shouldn't be too hard to hunt up CGI/PERL scripts to do exactly that - last year I found hundreds of different CGI scripts and perl scripts to fit the bill - biggest problem was trying to figure out which one I wanted... -- Fri Jul 4 12:55:00 EST 2003 12:55:00 up 2 days, 2:15, 3 users, load average: 0.28, 0.26, 0.26 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GIT d-- s:- a+ C UL P+ L+++ E W++ N++ o-- K--- w--- O++ M+ V PS+++ PE Y++ PGP- t+++ 5+++ X+++ R+ tv b+++ DI+++ D++ G++ e+ h r+++ y+++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- I'm frequently appalled by the low regard you Earthmen have for life. -- Spock, "The Galileo Seven", stardate 2822.3 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Password Protection?
On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 11:57, Cody Harris wrote: > Is there a way to impose a type of password protection onto folders? > > -Cody Harris Yes. -- Fri Jul 4 12:50:00 EST 2003 12:50:00 up 2 days, 2:10, 3 users, load average: 0.28, 0.28, 0.27 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GIT d-- s:- a+ C UL P+ L+++ E W++ N++ o-- K--- w--- O++ M+ V PS+++ PE Y++ PGP- t+++ 5+++ X+++ R+ tv b+++ DI+++ D++ G++ e+ h r+++ y+++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- How beautiful are thy feet with shoes, O prince's daughter! the joints of thy thighs are like jewels, the work of the hands of a cunning workman. Thy navel is like a round goblet, which wanteth not liquor: thy belly is like an heap of wheat set about with lillies. Thy two breasts are like two young roses that are twins. [Song of Solomon 7:1-3 (KJV)] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] DSl up but
On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 10:58, Aron Smith wrote:
> DSL line up working and configured Mandrake does it again
> Please note new email address.
> thats the good news
> bought a netgear RP614 Firewall router cannot get it to play nice with
> my DSL modem(ZyXEL 600) any Ideas gang?
Is the DSL modem "stand alone" ?
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Re: [newbie] Weird XWC Problem
On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 11:20, FemmeFatale wrote:
> At 10:53 AM 7/4/2003 +1200, you wrote:
> >Yeah, it is buggy but on my home system, it just works. And Krusader is
> >Klunky =) by comparison IMHO. I prefer XWC and this is the only system
> >that it falls over on. I wish XWC was still being maintained, hell of a FM.
> >
> >Cheers
> >
> >Jason
>
> ya totally agree there. try another FM?? I dunno what else to suggest...
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> >-
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> FemmeFatale, aka The Skirt
Use something that works. ROX-Filer, Gnome-Commander, GMC, Konqueror.
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Re: [newbie] Printing man pages
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 11:37, L.V.Gandhi wrote: > On Tuesday 01 Jul 2003 5:35 am, Stephen Kuhn wrote: > > | col -b > lilo_manpage.ps > for > [EMAIL PROTECTED] lvgandhi]$ man col| col -b > col_manpage.ps > [EMAIL PROTECTED] lvgandhi]$ ls -l col_manpage.ps > -rw-r--r--1 lvgandhi lvgandhi 2568 Jul 2 07:05 col_manpage.ps > but kghostview couldn't open it. Maybe it's because you need a space in between "col" and the "|" ? So: man col | col -b > col_manpage.ps ?? -- Fri Jul 4 11:00:01 EST 2003 11:00:01 up 2 days, 20 min, 2 users, load average: 0.44, 0.28, 0.21 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |====| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GIT d-- s:- a+ C UL P+ L+++ E W++ N++ o-- K--- w--- O++ M+ V PS+++ PE Y++ PGP- t+++ 5+++ X+++ R+ tv b+++ DI+++ D++ G++ e+ h r+++ y+++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- I wouldn't marry her with a ten foot pole. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Free of OE!
On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 06:29, Todd Slater wrote: > Maybe you're not as lucky as me, my wife and I have sex almost every > night. On Monday we almost have sex, on Tuesday we almost have sex . . . > > (yes, with each other :)) > > Todd That, Todd, is an absolute classic. I just about pissed myself reading that. How true, how true! -- Fri Jul 4 09:50:00 EST 2003 09:50:00 up 1 day, 23:10, 2 users, load average: 0.27, 0.27, 0.21 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GIT d-- s:- a+ C UL P+ L+++ E W++ N++ o-- K--- w--- O++ M+ V PS+++ PE Y++ PGP- t+++ 5+++ X+++ R+ tv b+++ DI+++ D++ G++ e+ h r+++ y+++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- Weiler's Law: Nothing is impossible for the man who doesn't have to do it himself. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Configuring SENDMAIL
On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 06:37, Todd Slater wrote: > Can't answer your question, but I've a need to perhaps scan email > passing through postfix. How hard was it to set up ClamAV to scan email? > > Todd Didn't take but about 10 minutes - and that was with reading the installation documentation; was easy as pie. Rather surprised. On top of that, I installed "Privoxy", too - yet another 10 minutes AT MOST. ...and to think that I spend about 10 hours configuring an M$ proxy server about two years ago...damn...this was a no-brainer. Ditto with portsentry...how much easier can it get? -- Fri Jul 4 09:50:00 EST 2003 09:50:00 up 1 day, 23:10, 2 users, load average: 0.27, 0.27, 0.21 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |====| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GIT d-- s:- a+ C UL P+ L+++ E W++ N++ o-- K--- w--- O++ M+ V PS+++ PE Y++ PGP- t+++ 5+++ X+++ R+ tv b+++ DI+++ D++ G++ e+ h r+++ y+++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- Weiler's Law: Nothing is impossible for the man who doesn't have to do it himself. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Weird XWC Problem
On Fri, 2003-07-04 at 07:48, Jason Greenwood wrote: > Hi All, > > Got a strange one for you. This has happened on 2 separate installs > (9.1) on the same laptop (an Asus L2400D). I installed XWC (File Manager > similar to WinExplorer), and it works for users just fine at first. > After using it for a day or so, it stops being able to start. Now when a > user tries to start it, it just sends the hard drive into overdrive but > never actually starts the program. I have tried to uninstall/reinstall > it to no avail. I sometimes have to killX just to get my system back > again. Sometimes after the hard drives screams for a few minutes, it > just goes back to normal without ever starting XWC. If I start it from a > console, there are no error messages but it still never starts and never > gives me a prompt back. I can't find a config file to delete or anything > either. If I start it as root from a console, it runs fine. It is sooo > weird. This just happened on fresh install of 9.1 as well. > > Any ideas appreciated, > > Regards, > > Jason Is anything showing up in the logfiles - or are there core dumps laying around? -- Fri Jul 4 09:55:01 EST 2003 09:55:01 up 1 day, 23:15, 2 users, load average: 0.96, 0.55, 0.32 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |====| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GIT d-- s:- a+ C UL P+ L+++ E W++ N++ o-- K--- w--- O++ M+ V PS+++ PE Y++ PGP- t+++ 5+++ X+++ R+ tv b+++ DI+++ D++ G++ e+ h r+++ y+++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- "Right, you bastards, you're... you're geography" (Guards! Guards!) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Canon Cameras. . .
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 23:27, Frank Roberts - SOTL wrote: > The simplicity of linux was unbelievable compared to MS. > > Incredible > > Frank If one perceives that linux is hard, then it's hard. If one perceives that Windows is "the best" - then they're mistaken. -- Fri Jul 4 00:05:01 EST 2003 00:05:01 up 1 day, 13:25, 2 users, load average: 0.29, 0.42, 0.42 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |====| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GIT d-- s:- a+ C UL P+ L+++ E W++ N++ o-- K--- w--- O++ M+ V PS+++ PE Y++ PGP- t+++ 5+++ X+++ R+ tv b+++ DI+++ D++ G++ e+ h r+++ y+++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- Roland was a warrior, from the land of the midnight sun, With a Thompson gun for hire, fighting to be done. The deal was made in Denmark, on a dark and stormy day, So he set out for Biafra, to join the bloody fray. Through sixty-six and seven, they fought the Congo war, With their fingers on their triggers, knee deep in gore. Days and nights they battled, the Bantu to their knees, They killed to earn their living, and to help out the Congolese. Roland the Thompson gunner... His comrades fought beside him, Van Owen and the rest, But of all the Thompson gunners, Roland was the best. So the C.I.A decided, they wanted Roland dead, That son-of-a-bitch Van Owen, blew off Roland's head. Roland the headless Thompson gunner... Roland searched the continent, for the man who'd done him in. He found him in Mombasa, in a bar room drinking gin, Roland aimed his Thompson gun, he didn't say a word, But he blew Van Owen's body from there to Johannesburg. The eternal Thompson gunner, still wandering through the night, Now it's ten years later, but he stills keeps up the fight. In Ireland, in Lebanon, in Palestine, in Berkeley, Patty Hearst... heard the burst... of Roland's Thompson gun, and bought it. -- Warren Zevon, "Roland the Headless Thompson Gunner" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] URL: HP Delivers Affordable, Reliable Microtower PC to Small- andMedium-sized Businesses
Didn't someone just make a mention of selling Mandrake prepackaged on a commercial workstation? Well, guess what? HP is doing it! http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2003/030702a.html -- Thu Jul 3 17:35:01 EST 2003 17:35:01 up 1 day, 6:55, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.03, 0.00 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GIT d-- s:- a+ C UL P+ L+++ E W++ N++ o-- K--- w--- O++ M+ V PS+++ PE Y++ PGP- t+++ 5+++ X+++ R+ tv b+++ DI+++ D++ G++ e+ h r+++ y+++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- What fools these morals be! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] RE: [newbie] Interview: Gaël Duvalon finances
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 16:28, Frankie wrote: > thats fantastic.. I hope they do alot of business.. > And i hope the mandrake machines are much cheaper. > > now if Dell and all the other biggies would sit up and take notice. linux > may well make a desktop dent. > rgds > Franki Part of that would entail "getting in good" with the hardware manufacturers - that's where Microsoft has made the inroads. It might be done with smaller, more flexible "start ups", but the big dogs - Dell, HP and the lot - are all butt-buddies with M$ and it would take more than a gigantic crowbar to get'em apart. (Sorry for the colourful metaphor) Projects like "The Microsoft Refund" help to make inroads in this arena...and hopefully, with more momentum, the day will come to pass where the computer systems are sold specifically with OS options. (No, I ain't been smokin' nuthin'...) -- Thu Jul 3 17:20:00 EST 2003 17:20:00 up 1 day, 6:40, 1 user, load average: 0.07, 0.03, 0.01 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GIT d-- s:- a+ C UL P+ L+++ E W++ N++ o-- K--- w--- O++ M+ V PS+++ PE Y++ PGP- t+++ 5+++ X+++ R+ tv b+++ DI+++ D++ G++ e+ h r+++ y+++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- QWERT (kwirt) n. [MW < OW qwertyuiop, a thirteenth] 1. a unit of weight equal to 13 poiuyt avoirdupois (or 1.69 kiloliks), commonly used in structural engineering 2. [Colloq.] one thirteenth the load that a fully grown sligo can carry. 3. [Anat.] a painful irritation of the dermis in the region of the anus 4. [Slang] person who excites in others the symptoms of a qwert. -- Webster's Middle World Dictionary, 4th ed. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] I'm being DoSed!
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 10:20, Cody Harris wrote: > I want to deny 128.175.241.43 from being connected to my, how do i do it!? > I'm being Dosed! 100 or more connecvtions at once! HELP! > > -Cody Harris Use Ethereal to find out what ports it's trying to flood out, then close the ports. So I take it you haven't installed portsentry and all that jazz yet? (If you can't find portsentry on the web, I have it stashed at: http://thor.prohosting.com/~kilgoret/files/ ...just in case, mate...) -- Thu Jul 3 12:40:00 EST 2003 12:40:00 up 1 day, 2:00, 2 users, load average: 0.05, 0.11, 0.09 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |====| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GIT d-- s:- a+ C UL P+ L+++ E W++ N++ o-- K--- w--- O++ M+ V PS+++ PE Y++ PGP- t+++ 5+++ X+++ R+ tv b+++ DI+++ D++ G++ e+ h r+++ y+++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- The justifications for drug testing are part of the presently fashionable debate concerning restoring America's "competitiveness." Drugs, it has been revealed, are responsible for rampant absenteeism, reduced output, and poor quality work. But is drug testing in fact rationally related to the resurrection of competitiveness? Will charging the atmosphere of the workplace with the fear of excretory betrayal honestly spur productivity? Much noise has been made about rehabilitating the worker using drugs, but to date the vast majority of programs end with the simple firing or the not hiring of the abuser. This practice may exacerbate, not alleviate, the nation's productivity problem. If economic rehabilitation is the ultimate goal of drug testing, then criteria abandoning the rehabilitation of the drug-using worker is the purest of hypocrisy and the worst of rationalization. -- The concluding paragraph of "Constitutional Law: The Fourth Amendment and Drug Testing in the Workplace," Tim Moore, Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy, vol. 10, No. 3 (Summer 1987), pp. 762-768. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] ARTICLE: Update about MandrakeSoft status 2003-07-01
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 00:50, Miark wrote: > They believe they can get out of the hole before year-end. That's excellent! > > Miark (..and to think that all my life I've been trying to get INTO a hole...) -- Thu Jul 3 10:05:00 EST 2003 10:05:00 up 23:25, 2 users, load average: 0.01, 0.11, 0.08 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GIT d-- s:- a+ C UL P+ L+++ E W++ N++ o-- K--- w--- O++ M+ V PS+++ PE Y++ PGP- t+++ 5+++ X+++ R+ tv b+++ DI+++ D++ G++ e+ h r+++ y+++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- The Magic of Windows: Turns a 486 back into a PC/XT. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[newbie] Re: Canon Cameras. . .
On Thu, 2003-07-03 at 03:52, Frank Roberts - SOTL wrote: > Following this I was unable to find any program among my list of 28 Multimedia > Graphics programs I have installed. > I have a few more installed than in a standard installation. You really don't need anything more than to mount the camera - just as if it were a hard drive. You should be able to run "kdf" and in the list of mountable devices, the camera should show up; right-click on it and you should be able to mount it. Once you've mounted it, you can copy the images where you so desire; then you can delete the images, or use the camera to format the memory again. Simple as that. -- Thu Jul 3 09:20:00 EST 2003 09:20:00 up 22:40, 2 users, load average: 0.13, 0.10, 0.03 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | || | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GIT d-- s:- a+ C UL P+ L+++ E W++ N++ o-- K--- w--- O++ M+ V PS+++ PE Y++ PGP- t+++ 5+++ X+++ R+ tv b+++ DI+++ D++ G++ e+ h r+++ y+++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- The Item of equipment that usually wont start or jams when you need it the most is the pump -- Murphy's Bush Fire Brigade Laws n21 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [newbie] Free of OE! - with IMAP
On Wed, 2003-07-02 at 21:21, Frank Bax wrote: > There exists a rather simple method to convert between *any* two email > clients that support IMAP. Simply setup an IMAP server, move all your mail > folders to the server using your old client program, then copy them all > back with the new client. > > Frank That is definitely one of the best ways of preserving email format and data - provided, of course, that you have an IMAP server, or the ability to set one up. In the past, when I've had customers that have had damaged OE or Outlook mail boxes that contain viruses/bugs and it hoses up their entire system, I've copied the data to the IMAP server, deleted the problematic email(s) and/or bugs, uninstalled their old email client, deleted the stored mail, reinstalled their email client software, then copied all their data back down into their client. Magic! One customer had taken their box to three different shops around town and everyone said "Has to be completely blown out and you'll loose all your email" - and this person had some sensitive stuff to their research (they're a writer) - I was the "last stop". Took 45 minutes, saved every damn piece of mail and got rid of the nasties. ...sorry, I was rambling... -- Wed Jul 2 22:50:00 EST 2003 22:50:00 up 12:10, 2 users, load average: 0.17, 0.33, 0.23 - |____ |kuhn media australia| | /-oo /| |'-. |http://kma.0catch.com | | .\__/ || | | |========| | _ / `._ \|_|_.-' |stephen kuhn| | | / \__.`=._) (_ | email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | - linux user #:267497 linux machine #:194239 * MDK 9.1 & RH 7.3 Mandrake Linux Kernel 2.4.21-11mdk Cooker for i586 - * This message was composed on a 100% Microsoft free computer * -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GIT d-- s:- a+ C UL P+ L+++ E W++ N++ o-- K--- w--- O++ M+ V PS+++ PE Y++ PGP- t+++ 5+++ X+++ R+ tv b+++ DI+++ D++ G++ e+ h r+++ y+++ --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- Yo-yo operating system = WinNT: it goes up..., it goes down..., it goes... -- From a Slashdot.org post Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
