RE: Remote Desktop server list reordering?

[Greg Mulholland]

and a hover house.. is that like a hover board?? cool!

Greg

From: Steven M. Caesare [scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Friday, 24 July 2009 1:24 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote Desktop server list reordering?

Wow.

Where, exactly, did you buy your house?

-sc

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Remote Desktop server list reordering?

One more rant, is there a way to turn off the 'Errors and Infos' tab?  Every 
time my house hovers over it (which is like every time I try to hit the start 
menu on the Remote Desktop), it make the error log hover over part of my remote 
session.

Highly annoying...

[cid:image001.jpg@01CA0B88.32C01F70]


From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 10:08 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote Desktop server list reordering?
RoyalTS. No way to do it with the built-in remote desktop tool as I know 
itthe reason I am testing MRemote is because I am trying to get past the 
limitations of RoyalTS
2009/7/23 Kim Longenbaugh 
mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com>>

All the MRemote stuff reminded me of one of the major annoyances with Remote 
Desktop, which is the list of servers in the left hand pane.



They remain in the order they’re added in, and to date, I’ve found no way to 
alphabetize them without deleting all of them and re-adding?  I know you can 
sort them in the right-hand pane if you click “Remote Desktops” in the left 
pane, but I want the left list sorted.



Anyone know how to accomplish that trick?



Thanks,

Kim







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RE: Remote Desktop server list reordering?

[Greg Mulholland]

does it really matter? i have heaps of servers to manage and i just use the 
quick find tool. Mind you i have broken down the servers into sites, and server 
type.

Greg

From: James Rankin [kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, 24 July 2009 1:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Remote Desktop server list reordering?

RoyalTS. No way to do it with the built-in remote desktop tool as I know 
itthe reason I am testing MRemote is because I am trying to get past the 
limitations of RoyalTS

2009/7/23 Kim Longenbaugh 
mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com>>

All the MRemote stuff reminded me of one of the major annoyances with Remote 
Desktop, which is the list of servers in the left hand pane.



They remain in the order they’re added in, and to date, I’ve found no way to 
alphabetize them without deleting all of them and re-adding?  I know you can 
sort them in the right-hand pane if you click “Remote Desktops” in the left 
pane, but I want the left list sorted.



Anyone know how to accomplish that trick?



Thanks,

Kim







--
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into the 
machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly 
to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question."

http://raythestray.blogspot.com





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RE: Mremote

[Greg Mulholland]

+ 1 mremote at work. visionapp 2009 at home. Havent actually tried citrix yet 
and havent been running visionapp long enough to test it fully.
The one thing i did like that vrd does that mremote does is RDP with NLA and TS 
Gateways.

Greg

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [luke.brumba...@butlerahs.com]
Sent: Friday, 24 July 2009 2:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mremote

We have been using visonapp (mremote merged)
What a god send, especially if you have more than one monitor.
Alphatize servers, drag to second monitor,reconnect instead of trying password 
for screensaver.


From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mremote

I've always created mstsc *.RDP files for quick access, see screenshot.
Works like a champ.  And you can set specific settings for each one...
[cid:image001.jpg@01CA0B93.04AF0F00]


From: Phillip Partipilo [mailto:p...@psnet.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Mremote
I've had mremote installed for quite a while, but ive been in the habit of 
doing Win+R mstsc for so long, I never use it.


Phillip Partipilo
Parametric Solutions Inc.
Jupiter, Florida
(561) 747-6107





From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 7:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Mremote
Afternoon all

Anyone else using MRemote (http://www.mremote.org/wiki/)? Very useful for 
consolidating window sprawl, lets me connect to RDP sessions, web interfaces, 
putty sessions, DRACs, etc. from one tabbed window. However the ICA connections 
only seem able to connect to a Citrix server desktop, anyone know how to get it 
to connect to a published application (if at all)?

I am trying to find documentation and/or websites, just thought I would throw 
it out there in case any of the gurus have a quick answer to save my tired eyes 
:-)

TIA

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machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able rightly 
to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question."

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RE: Outlook 2010 ?

[Greg Mulholland]

not only does it work with accounts in the same org but accounts in totally 
different orgs/domains as i assume Ken had setup.

Greg

From: Ken Schaefer [...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Thursday, 23 July 2009 1:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2010 ?

http://www.adopenstatic.com/cs/blogs/ken/archive/2009/07/14/24982.aspx
No need to OL2010 support

To the OP � I don�t see why it wouldt work. Just 
create another profile and put your user details in.

Cheers
Ken


From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:g...@krystaltek.com]
Sent: Thursday, 23 July 2009 12:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2010 ?

Hasnt been tested on Outlook 2010 obviously though, nor win7 for that matter if 
that matters.

Greg

From: Bob Fronk [...@btrfronk.com]
Sent: Thursday, 23 July 2009 9:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2010 ?
I cannot answer your question, however, just as an FYI... You can open multiple 
profiles by using multiple instances of Outlook 2007 with "ExtraOutlook"

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-Original Message-
From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 6:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook 2010 ?

Does anyone know if the multiple-Exchange-accounts-under-one-profile
feature of Outlook 2010 will let you add multiple accounts on the same
server or same Exchange org?

Gracias,

RS









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RE: Outlook 2010 ?

[Greg Mulholland]

Hasnt been tested on Outlook 2010 obviously though, nor win7 for that matter if 
that matters.

Greg

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Sent: Thursday, 23 July 2009 9:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook 2010 ?

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-Original Message-
From: Richard Stovall [mailto:rich...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 6:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook 2010 ?

Does anyone know if the multiple-Exchange-accounts-under-one-profile
feature of Outlook 2010 will let you add multiple accounts on the same
server or same Exchange org?

Gracias,

RS

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RE: ESXi 4.0 is free... the Client isn't!?

[Greg Mulholland]

No

The client is free. Its the host you need to license. You register for the 
license when you download the software.
You point your browser at https://esxihost and download the 
client from there.

Greg

From: Matthew W. Ross [mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Thursday, 16 July 2009 8:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: ESXi 4.0 is free... the Client isn't!?

Okay, I'm trying ESXi 4.0... and it seems to work well.

But it has me use the vSphere client... which is A) a bit slow and B) not free! 
Instead, It's a 60 day evaluation... and I don't see what happens after the end 
of that evaluation. I suspect it stops working.

So I made a quick phone call to VMWare, and asked them if there was a free 
client for ESXi (like there was for 3.5)... Nope. vSphere client is it.

So I went to VMWare's website, and couldn't find any price for vSphere client. 
I couldn't find one for the client at CDW either. There were prices for 
vSphere... but not just the client.

So am I wrong, or is this a bait and switch? Is there a cost for just the 
client? Anybody know what the retail cost is? We effectively have a zero 
budget, so paid solutions will be looked at second.

*grumble* Going to try XenServer 5.5 next... *grumble*


--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District

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RE: Enterprise password management

[Greg Mulholland]

we use http://passwordsafe.sourceforge.net/ to great effect

Greg

From: Kelsay, Mark [mark.kel...@confused.com]
Sent: Monday, 6 July 2009 6:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Enterprise password management

Our environment has grown over the past year and we have many new usernames and 
passwords to access our test and development environment.  Not a fan of people 
having them all written down on scraps of paper littered around their desks.

I am looking for an application that I can deploy that will allow specific 
users access to specific lists of usernames and passwords to get their job 
done.   Web based with a SQL backend would be best as I would not like to have 
to deploy any apps to client machines.

I found this through Google:  http://www.enterprise-password-safe.com/

It looks pretty good but want to run the idea by the list and see if anyone 
else has deployed something similar.


Thanks,

Mark



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RE: PDC Emulator help

[Greg Mulholland]

Thanks Ken i know i was vague but if i detailed the whole thing i'd be here for 
weeks.

Basically, the problem dc is not replicating to any other dc's other than in 
the same site.
However i have been able to transfer the role, but other sites in the domain 
haven't picked up the change yet.
I noticed today that the bridgehead for the site is the failed dc, so i have 
made the new one the bridgehead and hopefully this will help replication to the 
other dc's in other sites (touch wood)

The flip side to this problem is that the dc is an exchange 2k server as well 
and the guys in Tampa are reluctant to migrate the users to Melbourne, FL until 
they get their new link up in a few weeks time. But this may have to force the 
issue.

Thanks for your help.

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Friday, 15 May 2009 12:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: PDC Emulator help

You can probably fix this with less effort than what I'm detailing below 
(depending on whether the problem is with replication, what's in AD, what's in 
DNS etc). I'm not sure what you've already investigated etc, but there's no 
real information in your post to isolate the problem.

To completely nuke the issue you can:
- Verify that your new candidate DC is replicating properly with other machines 
in the environment
- Stop the problem DC from replicating to other DCs
- If required, seize the FSMO role onto the new DC (verify in AD, e.g. using 
ntdsutil, who is the PDCe role holder)
- DCpromo the problem DC out of the domain
- Force replication from the new FSMO role holder out to other DCs
- Ensure that DNS is updated correctly (service record registered to point to 
new DC)

Cheers
Ken



From: Greg Mulholland [g...@krystaltek.com]
Sent: Friday, 15 May 2009 10:04 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: PDC Emulator help

We are running a windows 2000 native domain. After some major issues with our 
PDC emulator (win2k) ie machines in other sites could not replicate with it, 
the pdc role has been transferred to another win2k dc in the same site. The 
problem now is that other dc's in other sites still think the pdc emulator is 
the old one.



Anyone have any ideas of how i can force these other dc's to sync or look at 
the right pdc.

There are 3 win2k dc's and the rest are win2k3



Greg









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PDC Emulator help

[Greg Mulholland]

We are running a windows 2000 native domain. After some major issues with our 
PDC emulator (win2k) ie machines in other sites could not replicate with it, 
the pdc role has been transferred to another win2k dc in the same site. The 
problem now is that other dc's in other sites still think the pdc emulator is 
the old one.



Anyone have any ideas of how i can force these other dc's to sync or look at 
the right pdc.

There are 3 win2k dc's and the rest are win2k3



Greg

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RE: Windows 7 RC

[Greg Mulholland]

no issue

Greg

From: Tim Vander Kooi [tvanderk...@expl.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 12 May 2009 3:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 RC

Worked just fine for me.

-Original Message-
From: Jon D [mailto:rekcahp...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 6:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 7 RC

Anyone having issues joining Windows 7 RC1 to a domain?
I heard a rumor about an issue, so I haven't tried yet. I know beta
works perfect on a domain.



Thanks,
Jon



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RE: What is Vmware thinking?

[Greg Mulholland]

Yeah.. snaphunter or even better powershell works a treat!. Svmotion would have 
been cool in the gui but you can do that with powershell as well!

-Original Message-
From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, 25 April 2009 6:43 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: What is Vmware thinking?

There was a mandated separation of companies between VMware and EMC
during the merger.  Non-compete, etc.  I believe this was in one of
the announcements at the time.

Well, vKernals looks interesting, I shall have to go look at it.
I currently use a PowerShell script to find snapshots.  If you are not
experimenting with PowerShell and you are managing ESX/Virtual Center,
you are seriously missing out.


Connect-VIServer -server  -protocol https;
$snap = Get-VM | Get-Snapshot
$snap | select VM, Created, Name, Description


Steven Peck

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Travis Robinson
 wrote:
> I've been using vKernels SearchMyVM
> (http://www.vkernel.com/products/SearchMyVM/) for finding things like this.
> It has a host of queries and it's FREE. It'll report on VMs with snapshots,
> free space on... etc.
>
> They're also very good with feedback. I suggested a query that will show
> which VMs have moved due to user interactin or DRS and they put it in the
> release that came out about 2 weeks later.
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2009 5:33 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: What is Vmware thinking?
>
>
>
> Yeah I just want a simple thing in the giu where I can search on machines
> with snapshots, or have them marked with a flag if they di have a snap-shot
> because finding the snaps isn't intuitive right now.
>
>
>
> Also S-Motion via GUI could be nice, and a way to backup the entire ESX host
> via Legato would be nice too, since EMC owns them, I would have already
> figured they gotten this hashed out... Naaa, that be too simple...
>
>
>
> Z
>
>
>
> Edward Ziots
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +
>
> ezi...@lifespan.org
>
> Phone:401-639-3505
>
> 
>
> From: RM [mailto:r...@richardmay.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 4:21 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: What is Vmware thinking?
>
>
>
> I just want thin provisioned VMDK's via vCenter, S-VMotion via vCenter, and
> the fault tolerance active/passive VM hot spare thingy.   :-)
>
>
>
> I'll let Wall Street and Main Street hash out the product strategy.
>
>
>
> RM
>
>
>
>
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>
>
> On Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:10 -0400, "Ziots, Edward" 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> http://www.vmware.com/products/vsphere/
>
>
>
> As an Avid Fan of Vmware and big user of the technology, it seems they are
> going the market, and mass confusion route to though something that is no
> further along than Vaporware. Eight different offers for ESX? Are they
> taking a licensing tip from M$ trying to generate more revenue under the
> guise of Cloud computing?
>
>
>
> Does anyone in the ESX server space see this in a different light than I am
> seeing it as first read?
>
>
>
> Z
>
>
>
>
>
> Edward Ziots
>
> Network Engineer
>
> Lifespan Organization
>
> MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +
>
> ezi...@lifespan.org
>
> Phone:401-639-3505
>
>
>
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RE: What is Vmware thinking?

[Greg Mulholland]

 whilst it is confusing initially i can see the price-point benefit they were 
going for and i think ultimately it will work. Looks like a sexy product though.

Greg

From: Phil Guevara [pguev...@mhccov.org]
Sent: Wednesday, 22 April 2009 6:31 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: What is Vmware thinking?

i wouldn't doubt it, vmware's current ceo WAS a microsoft exec


From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:ezi...@lifespan.org]
Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 1:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: What is Vmware thinking?

http://www.vmware.com/products/vsphere/

As an Avid Fan of Vmware and big user of the technology, it seems they are 
going the market, and mass confusion route to though something that is no 
further along than Vaporware. Eight different offers for ESX? Are they taking a 
licensing tip from M$ trying to generate more revenue under the guise of Cloud 
computing?

Does anyone in the ESX server space see this in a different light than I am 
seeing it as first read?

Z


Edward Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +
ezi...@lifespan.org
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RE: New machine OU placement

[Greg Mulholland]

Thanks everyone for their input. I think i have enough to look at.

Greg

From: Brian Desmond [br...@briandesmond.com]
Sent: Thursday, 16 April 2009 4:41 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: New machine OU placement

Yes I have scripts and this is pretty easy to do (done it many times), but, the 
fields you’re looking for don’t really exist.

Naming conventions are how I usually key this. If you don’t have that then this 
is a lot of work. If you want to do site based you could ping the machine and 
then map the IP to a site. That is pretty easy to do. If you want to do this 
user based, you need to be precreating the computer accounts with something 
that can do the logging for you and ideally put the accounts in the right place.

The other option is to just leave them. If you’re not getting any value from 
moving the machines then don’t bother.

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
br...@briandesmond.com

c - 312.731.3132

Active Directory, 4th Ed - http://www.briandesmond.com/ad4/
Microsoft MVP - https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile/Brian

From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:g...@krystaltek.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 6:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: New machine OU placement

Hi Guys

we have an issue where users are creating multiple vm's every day and joining 
them to the network and we end up with a number of machine accounts dumped in 
the default computers container. I would dearly like something that would 
report the machines in that container at the end of the day and possibly the 
user that created it, site it was created in or some such so we could pick them 
up and move them into the right OU.

Before i sit down to script something out has anyone had an experience in this 
respect and could recommend a solution.

Thanks

Greg









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RE: New machine OU placement

[Greg Mulholland]

I can but i dont want to do this globally and i do mean globally and i would 
still need to now where they are supposed to go if we were to move them 
manually. I guess i could force them to use the netdom command to place the 
machine in the OU of their particular section. Thanks for the info, i had 
thought of using this tool, i guess i just need to find a way to do it whatever 
fits best

Greg

From: James Rankin [kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 15 April 2009 9:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: New machine OU placement

Can't you redirect them with redircmp? If you are creating VMs, you can script 
this to run after the machine is created

2009/4/15 Greg Mulholland mailto:g...@krystaltek.com>>
Hi Guys

we have an issue where users are creating multiple vm's every day and joining 
them to the network and we end up with a number of machine accounts dumped in 
the default computers container. I would dearly like something that would 
report the machines in that container at the end of the day and possibly the 
user that created it, site it was created in or some such so we could pick them 
up and move them into the right OU.

Before i sit down to script something out has anyone had an experience in this 
respect and could recommend a solution.

Thanks

Greg










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New machine OU placement

[Greg Mulholland]

Hi Guys

we have an issue where users are creating multiple vm's every day and joining 
them to the network and we end up with a number of machine accounts dumped in 
the default computers container. I would dearly like something that would 
report the machines in that container at the end of the day and possibly the 
user that created it, site it was created in or some such so we could pick them 
up and move them into the right OU.

Before i sit down to script something out has anyone had an experience in this 
respect and could recommend a solution.

Thanks

Greg

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: VMWare install

[Greg Mulholland]

My guess is they wont give an official one. they might just specify quarter or 
month

Greg

From: Jonathan Link [jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2009 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VMWare install

C'mon!  Microsoft wouldn't miss a release date, would they?

On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 10:17 PM, Greg Mulholland 
mailto:g...@krystaltek.com>> wrote:
yeah, last i heard was late this year, but more than likely my money is on 1st 
1/4 2010.

r2 is not perfect and is not as feature rich as Vmware, but it will at least 
put them in the game a little more. a game that has years to play. To that 
effect Vmware will drop 4.0 soon this year which will raise allot of MS 
eyebrows and change the game again.

Greg

From: Ken Schaefer [...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2009 1:47 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare install


We'll know more after the MVP summit, but I thought Win2k8 R2 was due to ship 
this  year...



Cheers

Ken



From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:g...@krystaltek.com<mailto:g...@krystaltek.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2009 12:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare install



in 2012 :p



Greg



From: Ken Schaefer [...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2009 11:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare install

Windows Server 2008 R2 will do this too (for Hyper-V) due to the new shared 
cluster storage



Cheers

Ken



From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com<mailto:sj...@amico.com>]
Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2009 11:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VMWare install



We are finally getting into the 21st century!

We now have 2 HP servers running clustered VMWare, this is absolutely 
incredibly, today we did a VMotion, moving 1 Virtual server from 1 Physical to 
another, we kept pinging the moving server, we last 1 ping during the move! 
This is incredibly theology. Also to be able to create a Virtual from a 
Physical is amazing. Setting up a Windows server in less than 15min, tomorrow 
we'll virtualized a few more servers. Very happy with VMWare.






























~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: VMWare install

[Greg Mulholland]

yeah, last i heard was late this year, but more than likely my money is on 1st 
1/4 2010.

r2 is not perfect and is not as feature rich as Vmware, but it will at least 
put them in the game a little more. a game that has years to play. To that 
effect Vmware will drop 4.0 soon this year which will raise allot of MS 
eyebrows and change the game again.

Greg

From: Ken Schaefer [...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2009 1:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare install

We’ll know more after the MVP summit, but I thought Win2k8 R2 was due to ship 
this  year...

Cheers
Ken

From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:g...@krystaltek.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2009 12:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare install

in 2012 :p

Greg

From: Ken Schaefer [...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2009 11:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare install
Windows Server 2008 R2 will do this too (for Hyper-V) due to the new shared 
cluster storage

Cheers
Ken

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2009 11:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VMWare install

We are finally getting into the 21st century!
We now have 2 HP servers running clustered VMWare, this is absolutely 
incredibly, today we did a VMotion, moving 1 Virtual server from 1 Physical to 
another, we kept pinging the moving server, we last 1 ping during the move! 
This is incredibly theology. Also to be able to create a Virtual from a 
Physical is amazing. Setting up a Windows server in less than 15min, tomorrow 
we’ll virtualized a few more servers. Very happy with VMWare.


















~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: VMWare install

[Greg Mulholland]

in 2012 :p

Greg

From: Ken Schaefer [...@adopenstatic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2009 11:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare install

Windows Server 2008 R2 will do this too (for Hyper-V) due to the new shared 
cluster storage

Cheers
Ken

From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:sj...@amico.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 21 January 2009 11:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VMWare install

We are finally getting into the 21st century!
We now have 2 HP servers running clustered VMWare, this is absolutely 
incredibly, today we did a VMotion, moving 1 Virtual server from 1 Physical to 
another, we kept pinging the moving server, we last 1 ping during the move! 
This is incredibly theology. Also to be able to create a Virtual from a 
Physical is amazing. Setting up a Windows server in less than 15min, tomorrow 
we’ll virtualized a few more servers. Very happy with VMWare.








~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: VMWare alarm question - SOLVED

[Greg Mulholland]

do you still get the alert in maintenance  mode though? i thought you said you 
did before.

Greg

From: Jeff Bunting [bunting.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, 17 January 2009 1:25 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VMWare alarm question - SOLVED

To follow up, I found the Update Manager plugin and tried this out.  Update 
Manager will not work on a host in the disconnected state;  the scan and 
remediate options are grayed out.  Looks like you have to be in maintenance 
mode for that.

Jeff

On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 4:39 PM, Martin Blackstone 
mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Can you still run Update Manager against it in a disconnected state?



From: Jeff Bunting 
[mailto:bunting.j...@gmail.com<mailto:bunting.j...@gmail.com>]
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 1:35 PM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VMWare alarm question - SOLVED



I was poking around the support site and ran across a bulletin instructing you 
to disconnect the host to make a change to a configuration file on it.  
Checking VC help, it said:

Disconnecting a managed host does not remove it from the VirtualCenter 
inventory. It temporarily suspends all VirtualCenter monitoring activities. The 
managed host and its associated virtual machines remain in the VirtualCenter 
inventory.

So disconnecting the host from VC will suppress the alerts from being sent.

Jeff

On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Greg Mulholland 
mailto:g...@krystaltek.com>> wrote:
> i'd encourage you then to log it with vmware. this seems like something they 
> should fix as it will continue to drive people crazy.
>
> Greg
> 
> From: Jeff Bunting [bunting.j...@gmail.com<mailto:bunting.j...@gmail.com>]
> Sent: Saturday, 10 January 2009 7:00 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: VMWare alarm question
>
> I just tried on another host which has never been in production and
> still got an alert email when I restarted it in maintenance mode.
>
> Just found this post:
> http://communities.vmware.com/thread/119038
>
> so guess this feature doesn't work (we have v2.5 running)
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Martin Blackstone 
> mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> What if you put the host into Maintenance Mode? That should stop the alarm.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jeff Bunting 
>> [mailto:bunting.j...@gmail.com<mailto:bunting.j...@gmail.com>]
>> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:09 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: VMWare alarm question
>>
>> Hoping one of you VMWare gurus can answer this
>>
>> I'm updating the firmware on some of our ESX servers.  In virtual
>> center, there is an alarm defined at the datacenter level to email an
>> alert when a host loses connection to VC.  Is there a way to disable
>> this alarm when performing maintenance on an individual server?  The
>> host indicates the alarm is read only except at the top level, and I
>> obviously don't want to disable all of the alarms.  Creating an alarm
>> for each host just to be able to this isn't a very good solution
>> either.  Is there a better way?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jeff
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>>
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>















~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: VMWare alarm question - SOLVED

[Greg Mulholland]

Im confused so what they are saying is you should disconnect a host from VC if 
you want to perform such maintenance on it?? doesnt that go against the whole 
maintenance mode principle? and besides dont you actually WANT the alert to be 
triggered if you 'disconnect' a host, even if it happens by itself during the 
9-5, isnt that the whole idea or am i missing something?

Greg

From: Jeff Bunting [bunting.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, 10 January 2009 8:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VMWare alarm question - SOLVED

I was poking around the support site and ran across a bulletin instructing you 
to disconnect the host to make a change to a configuration file on it.  
Checking VC help, it said:

Disconnecting a managed host does not remove it from the VirtualCenter 
inventory. It temporarily suspends all VirtualCenter monitoring activities. The 
managed host and its associated virtual machines remain in the VirtualCenter 
inventory.

So disconnecting the host from VC will suppress the alerts from being sent.

Jeff

On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 3:56 PM, Greg Mulholland 
mailto:g...@krystaltek.com>> wrote:
> i'd encourage you then to log it with vmware. this seems like something they 
> should fix as it will continue to drive people crazy.
>
> Greg
> 
> From: Jeff Bunting [bunting.j...@gmail.com<mailto:bunting.j...@gmail.com>]
> Sent: Saturday, 10 January 2009 7:00 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: VMWare alarm question
>
> I just tried on another host which has never been in production and
> still got an alert email when I restarted it in maintenance mode.
>
> Just found this post:
> http://communities.vmware.com/thread/119038
>
> so guess this feature doesn't work (we have v2.5 running)
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Martin Blackstone 
> mailto:mblackst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> What if you put the host into Maintenance Mode? That should stop the alarm.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jeff Bunting 
>> [mailto:bunting.j...@gmail.com<mailto:bunting.j...@gmail.com>]
>> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:09 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: VMWare alarm question
>>
>> Hoping one of you VMWare gurus can answer this
>>
>> I'm updating the firmware on some of our ESX servers.  In virtual
>> center, there is an alarm defined at the datacenter level to email an
>> alert when a host loses connection to VC.  Is there a way to disable
>> this alarm when performing maintenance on an individual server?  The
>> host indicates the alarm is read only except at the top level, and I
>> obviously don't want to disable all of the alarms.  Creating an alarm
>> for each host just to be able to this isn't a very good solution
>> either.  Is there a better way?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jeff
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>>
>>
>> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
>> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>






~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: VMWare alarm question

[Greg Mulholland]

i'd encourage you then to log it with vmware. this seems like something they 
should fix as it will continue to drive people crazy.

Greg

From: Jeff Bunting [bunting.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, 10 January 2009 7:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VMWare alarm question

I just tried on another host which has never been in production and
still got an alert email when I restarted it in maintenance mode.

Just found this post:
http://communities.vmware.com/thread/119038

so guess this feature doesn't work (we have v2.5 running)


On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 1:03 PM, Martin Blackstone  wrote:
> What if you put the host into Maintenance Mode? That should stop the alarm.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jeff Bunting [mailto:bunting.j...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:09 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: VMWare alarm question
>
> Hoping one of you VMWare gurus can answer this
>
> I'm updating the firmware on some of our ESX servers.  In virtual
> center, there is an alarm defined at the datacenter level to email an
> alert when a host loses connection to VC.  Is there a way to disable
> this alarm when performing maintenance on an individual server?  The
> host indicates the alarm is read only except at the top level, and I
> obviously don't want to disable all of the alarms.  Creating an alarm
> for each host just to be able to this isn't a very good solution
> either.  Is there a better way?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Gone way OT: Windows 7 On TechNet Now

[Greg Mulholland]

a) explorer windows keep "forgetting" which columns they should be displaying 
for file properties   THANK YOU!!! This gives me the.. grrr

-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] 
Sent: Friday, 9 January 2009 9:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Gone way OT: Windows 7 On TechNet Now

I like Vista.

But there are some things that continue to irk me from a user perspective. 
Stuff like:
a) explorer windows keep "forgetting" which columns they should be displaying 
for file properties
b) booting is way to slow

Both of the above two appear to be "fixed" in Win 7 betas. 

There is no way I could run Vista usably on a 1.6GHz netbook, but Win 7 works 
fine. That's good IMHO

Cheers
Ken

-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Friday, 9 January 2009 9:19 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Gone way OT: Windows 7 On TechNet Now

Ok, since we are on the subject...

This has been irking me lately, I need to get it off my chest!

I have been highly skeptical of all the rave reviews of 7 so far. 

There seems to be this wonderful wave of hope around 7 in the
blogosphere, touting 7 is better than Vista.  But Vista kinda of had
terrible press, and everyone was convinced it was the next ME.  In
actually, it wasn't.  Vista is great.  It had it SP0 bumps for sure, but
Vista in general was much better that I think the press made it out to
be. 

Everyone is jumping in joy that 7 boots faster than Vista, more stable,
etc, etc.  Big Whoop.  IMO, IT BETTER be faster and more stable!  This
is not a feature, this is a EXPECTATION.  Better stability?  Again, not
a bonus feature, it's an expectation.  New versions should NEVER be
slower, especially with the crazy pace of hardware advancements.  

All in all, I think Vista's bad rep is just paving the way for good
reviews of 7.

It's like when Steve Jobs put the 'improved' Audio Jack in his slide
show for the Gen 2 iPhone.  No, Steve, you can't do that.  You &*^&cked
up with Gen1 with the audio port, and you fixed it in Gen2.  You cannot
market it as a new feature.  The fact that he had to market that and
throw it in his slid show, just goes to show that there weren't enough
other new features introduced to talk about.

I don't no much about 7, I haven't tried it, I'm sure I will download it
on Friday, and buy a copy on release.  

I just hope MS knows what they are doing forcing an OS out the door so
quickly. 


-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 2:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 On TechNet Now

Since the other beta's are out...

I really like the new task bar. I'm not sold on the new Start button.

Otherwise - it's very much like Vista sp2.

Except that it uses less memory. At idle, my Vista system uses about 850
MB.
At idle (pretty much the same startup applications), Win7 uses 500 MB.

Speed-wise - I don't detect any appreciable difference. But I've got
pretty fast machines already.

I have found a couple of pretty obvious bugs, so I don't consider it
production-ready.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP My blog:
http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php

-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 3:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Windows 7 On TechNet Now

>From what I've heard, Win7 isn't too frustrating--so I'm willing to give
it a look.

John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
318 North Clark Street
Perry, FL 32347

www.taylor.k12.fl.us

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2009 1:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Windows 7 On TechNet Now

oh dear!  Then how-ever will I frustrate myself with an unfinished beta
product!?

--
ME2


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: ESXi newbie - question about data stores

[Greg Mulholland]

Using SSH is different to having a service console. The service console is 
generally what allows those apps to work. Until the new version are rewritten 
for esxi :)

-Original Message-
From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 7 January 2009 11:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ESXi newbie - question about data stores

You can use SSH in ESXi, it's just unsupported by Vmware. 

-Original Message-
From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:53 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: ESXi newbie - question about data stores

ah, hadn't thought about that.  Think I will keep my ESX server farm.

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Damien Solodow
 wrote:
> Might not be able to do that with esxi as it doesn't have a service 
> console, so maybe no sshd
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:52 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: ESXi newbie - question about data stores
>
> http://winscp.net/eng/index.php
>
> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Bryan Garmon 
> wrote:
>> I want to copy a few iso files to the ESXi datastore - how do I 
>> access
> the
>> datastore remotely from a windows vista machine?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
>   ~
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~ 
>   ~
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~
  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: VMWare Product Confusion

[Greg Mulholland]

Yeah version 4 wont have a service console if the beat is anything to go by.

This will force you to know the rcli (a good thing) and vendors to re-write 
their software

Greg

From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:li...@levelfive.us]
Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2009 2:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

ESXi has the same feature set when licensed with VC as a full ESX box.

VMware had some interesting 'entry level' product lines not too long ago that 
included I think VCB, VC and 3 esxi licenses (for vc) for just a few thousand.

ESXi lacks a console (uses busybox)for the most part that provides some 
underlying features that you can do directly on the box. However, RCLI is a 
perl based application toolset that provides about 90% of the functions of ESX 
by calling the vmware api remotely. The RCLI is also compatible with ESX and is 
recommended to use for security so this is probably the way ESX is headed.

All the players like trilead, veeam are planning to fully support esxi by using 
the api engine and not the console calls (via ssh).

Veeam Monitor 3.0 supports ESXi, is free and includes email alerts when 
anything goes out of whack, this tool paired with ESXi is a great resource.


From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 20:32
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

"ESXi does not allow Vmotion, Centralized Mgmt of multiple servr..."
Oh it sure does!


From: gswe...@actsconsulting.net [mailto:gswe...@actsconsulting.net]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion
ESXi does not allow Vmotion, Centralized Mgmt of multiple servers, etc.  
basically it's the essentials of ESX..Just virtualization and nothing of the 
advanced feature sets that the full (Paid) versions of ESX allow.


From: Roger Wright [mailto:rwri...@evatone.com]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 6:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

Simple and concise!  Thanks...



Roger Wright
Network Administrator
Evatone, Inc.
727.572.7076  x388
_

From: Klint Price - ArizonaITPro [mailto:kpr...@arizonaitpro.com]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VMWare Product Confusion

1.x and 2.x run on top of Windows while ESXi has it's own OS, and runs 
independent of Windows.

ESXi is a stripped down version of ESX.  You will see huge increases in VM 
performance under ESXi.

Klint



Roger Wright wrote:
So what are the primary differences between v1.x , and v2.0 and ESXi?



Roger Wright
Network Administrator
Evatone, Inc.
727.572.7076  x388
_

From: gswe...@actsconsulting.net 
[mailto:gswe...@actsconsulting.net]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

We have moved all of our clients to ESXi that were using Server 1.x or 2.0 
unless there was some specific reason the Host OS had to stay online.  Not many 
cases of those though.
The only main issue was some NIC driver issues on some whitebox machines we 
have been begging to get rid of.

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

No, ESXi is free now, and I would use it in a heartbeat over server.
jlc

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rwri...@evatone.com]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 2:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VMWare Product Confusion


I'm running with several VMs under VMware Server 1.0.8, primarily because it 
was free and gave us an opportunity to move into the virtual arena.



Is VMware Server 2.0 also free to use?  If so, any reason not to move to 2.0?



Is this the highest level VMWare product which is available at no cost?





Roger Wright

Network Administrator

Evatone, Inc.

727.572.7076  x388





_
















































~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: VMWare Product Confusion

[Greg Mulholland]

Yep once you have the server running as a vmdk disk its very easy to move 
around.

-Original Message-
From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2009 11:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

Sal,

Yes the backend data files for ESX/ESXi are the same and you can SCP them to 
the new server or use Vmotion if you are licensed for that option. Much easier 
if its new hardware you are moving to, if upgrading the existing hardware it 
may take a little planning, especially if you are moving from local to SAN 
disks.

-Troy

-Original Message-
From: Salvador Manzo [mailto:ma...@usc.edu] 
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 4:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

Well, I'm asking as I'm in the position where I may need to install ESXi now to 
get some functionality in place, but not have the money for VC/ESX full until 
next fiscal year.

 

____

From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:g...@krystaltek.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 4:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

 

No. You can license it with the same functionality pretty much but as I said if 
you buy a full license then why wouldn't you use the full product.

 

To use ESX you need to install ESX. To use ESXI you need to install ESXI. They 
are two different products

 

From: Salvador Manzo [mailto:ma...@usc.edu] 
Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2009 10:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

 

Can you move from ESXi to full ESX without having to rebuild the VM host?

 

____

From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:g...@krystaltek.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 3:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

 

Those features are part of Virtual Centre. So you can use the ESXi embedded or 
installable version and purchase a foundation license file which provides a VC 
agent. Hence you can manage the host with Virtual Center etc etc. Mind you you 
cant use Vmotion unless you buy an Enterprise license and I don't know why you 
would ever do that and not use the full version anyway. 

 

Greg

 

From: gswe...@actsconsulting.net [mailto:gswe...@actsconsulting.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2009 10:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

 

ESXi does not allow Vmotion, Centralized Mgmt of multiple servers, etc.  
basically it's the essentials of ESX..Just virtualization and nothing of the 
advanced feature sets that the full (Paid) versions of ESX allow.

 

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rwri...@evatone.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 6:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

 

Simple and concise!  Thanks...

 

   

 

Roger Wright

Network Administrator

Evatone, Inc.

727.572.7076  x388

_  

 

From: Klint Price - ArizonaITPro [mailto:kpr...@arizonaitpro.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VMWare Product Confusion

 

1.x and 2.x run on top of Windows while ESXi has it's own OS, and runs 
independent of Windows.

ESXi is a stripped down version of ESX.  You will see huge increases in VM 
performance under ESXi.

Klint



Roger Wright wrote: 

So what are the primary differences between v1.x , and v2.0 and ESXi?

 

   

 

Roger Wright

Network Administrator

Evatone, Inc.

727.572.7076  x388

_  

 

From: gswe...@actsconsulting.net [mailto:gswe...@actsconsulting.net] 
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

 

We have moved all of our clients to ESXi that were using Server 1.x or 2.0 
unless there was some specific reason the Host OS had to stay online.  Not many 
cases of those though.

The only main issue was some NIC driver issues on some whitebox machines we 
have been begging to get rid of.

 

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

 

No, ESXi is free now, and I would use it in a heartbeat over server.
jlc

 

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rwri...@evatone.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 2:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VMWare Product Confusion

 

I'm running with several VMs under VMware Server 1.0.8, primarily because it 
was free and gave us an opportunity to move into the virtual arena.

 

Is VMware Server 2.0 also free to use?  If so, any reason not to move to 2.0?

 

Is this the highest level VMWare product which is available at no cost?

 

 

Roger Wright

Network Administrator

Evatone, Inc.

727.572.7076  x388

  

 

_

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 

 


~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.su

RE: VMWare Product Confusion

[Greg Mulholland]

Always a good way to do it especially if management balk at the initial cost of 
virtualisation or even technological aspects of it. ESXi can be a good foot in 
the door and then hope that you can work it to your advantage in the next few 
months and then the decision makes itself for a full blow ESX datacenter with 
DR site using SRM :)

From: Salvador Manzo [mailto:ma...@usc.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2009 11:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

Well, I'm asking as I'm in the position where I may need to install ESXi now to 
get some functionality in place, but not have the money for VC/ESX full until 
next fiscal year.

____
From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:g...@krystaltek.com]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 4:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

No. You can license it with the same functionality pretty much but as I said if 
you buy a full license then why wouldn't you use the full product.

To use ESX you need to install ESX. To use ESXI you need to install ESXI. They 
are two different products

From: Salvador Manzo [mailto:ma...@usc.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2009 10:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

Can you move from ESXi to full ESX without having to rebuild the VM host?

____
From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:g...@krystaltek.com]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 3:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

Those features are part of Virtual Centre. So you can use the ESXi embedded or 
installable version and purchase a foundation license file which provides a VC 
agent. Hence you can manage the host with Virtual Center etc etc. Mind you you 
cant use Vmotion unless you buy an Enterprise license and I don't know why you 
would ever do that and not use the full version anyway.

Greg

From: gswe...@actsconsulting.net [mailto:gswe...@actsconsulting.net]
Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2009 10:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

ESXi does not allow Vmotion, Centralized Mgmt of multiple servers, etc.  
basically it's the essentials of ESX..Just virtualization and nothing of the 
advanced feature sets that the full (Paid) versions of ESX allow.


From: Roger Wright [mailto:rwri...@evatone.com]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 6:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

Simple and concise!  Thanks...



Roger Wright
Network Administrator
Evatone, Inc.
727.572.7076  x388
_

From: Klint Price - ArizonaITPro [mailto:kpr...@arizonaitpro.com]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VMWare Product Confusion

1.x and 2.x run on top of Windows while ESXi has it's own OS, and runs 
independent of Windows.

ESXi is a stripped down version of ESX.  You will see huge increases in VM 
performance under ESXi.

Klint



Roger Wright wrote:
So what are the primary differences between v1.x , and v2.0 and ESXi?



Roger Wright
Network Administrator
Evatone, Inc.
727.572.7076  x388
_

From: gswe...@actsconsulting.net<mailto:gswe...@actsconsulting.net> 
[mailto:gswe...@actsconsulting.net]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

We have moved all of our clients to ESXi that were using Server 1.x or 2.0 
unless there was some specific reason the Host OS had to stay online.  Not many 
cases of those though.
The only main issue was some NIC driver issues on some whitebox machines we 
have been begging to get rid of.

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

No, ESXi is free now, and I would use it in a heartbeat over server.
jlc

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rwri...@evatone.com]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 2:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VMWare Product Confusion


I'm running with several VMs under VMware Server 1.0.8, primarily because it 
was free and gave us an opportunity to move into the virtual arena.



Is VMware Server 2.0 also free to use?  If so, any reason not to move to 2.0?



Is this the highest level VMWare product which is available at no cost?





Roger Wright

Network Administrator

Evatone, Inc.

727.572.7076  x388





_


























































~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: VMWare Product Confusion

[Greg Mulholland]

No. You can license it with the same functionality pretty much but as I said if 
you buy a full license then why wouldn't you use the full product.

To use ESX you need to install ESX. To use ESXI you need to install ESXI. They 
are two different products

From: Salvador Manzo [mailto:ma...@usc.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2009 10:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

Can you move from ESXi to full ESX without having to rebuild the VM host?


From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:g...@krystaltek.com]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 3:45 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

Those features are part of Virtual Centre. So you can use the ESXi embedded or 
installable version and purchase a foundation license file which provides a VC 
agent. Hence you can manage the host with Virtual Center etc etc. Mind you you 
cant use Vmotion unless you buy an Enterprise license and I don't know why you 
would ever do that and not use the full version anyway.

Greg

From: gswe...@actsconsulting.net [mailto:gswe...@actsconsulting.net]
Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2009 10:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

ESXi does not allow Vmotion, Centralized Mgmt of multiple servers, etc.  
basically it's the essentials of ESX..Just virtualization and nothing of the 
advanced feature sets that the full (Paid) versions of ESX allow.


From: Roger Wright [mailto:rwri...@evatone.com]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 6:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

Simple and concise!  Thanks...



Roger Wright
Network Administrator
Evatone, Inc.
727.572.7076  x388
_

From: Klint Price - ArizonaITPro [mailto:kpr...@arizonaitpro.com]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VMWare Product Confusion

1.x and 2.x run on top of Windows while ESXi has it's own OS, and runs 
independent of Windows.

ESXi is a stripped down version of ESX.  You will see huge increases in VM 
performance under ESXi.

Klint



Roger Wright wrote:
So what are the primary differences between v1.x , and v2.0 and ESXi?



Roger Wright
Network Administrator
Evatone, Inc.
727.572.7076  x388
_

From: gswe...@actsconsulting.net<mailto:gswe...@actsconsulting.net> 
[mailto:gswe...@actsconsulting.net]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

We have moved all of our clients to ESXi that were using Server 1.x or 2.0 
unless there was some specific reason the Host OS had to stay online.  Not many 
cases of those though.
The only main issue was some NIC driver issues on some whitebox machines we 
have been begging to get rid of.

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

No, ESXi is free now, and I would use it in a heartbeat over server.
jlc

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rwri...@evatone.com]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 2:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VMWare Product Confusion


I'm running with several VMs under VMware Server 1.0.8, primarily because it 
was free and gave us an opportunity to move into the virtual arena.



Is VMware Server 2.0 also free to use?  If so, any reason not to move to 2.0?



Is this the highest level VMWare product which is available at no cost?





Roger Wright

Network Administrator

Evatone, Inc.

727.572.7076  x388





_
















































~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: VMWare Product Confusion

[Greg Mulholland]

Those features are part of Virtual Centre. So you can use the ESXi embedded or 
installable version and purchase a foundation license file which provides a VC 
agent. Hence you can manage the host with Virtual Center etc etc. Mind you you 
cant use Vmotion unless you buy an Enterprise license and I don't know why you 
would ever do that and not use the full version anyway.

Greg

From: gswe...@actsconsulting.net [mailto:gswe...@actsconsulting.net]
Sent: Tuesday, 6 January 2009 10:17 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

ESXi does not allow Vmotion, Centralized Mgmt of multiple servers, etc.  
basically it's the essentials of ESX..Just virtualization and nothing of the 
advanced feature sets that the full (Paid) versions of ESX allow.


From: Roger Wright [mailto:rwri...@evatone.com]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 6:04 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

Simple and concise!  Thanks...



Roger Wright
Network Administrator
Evatone, Inc.
727.572.7076  x388
_

From: Klint Price - ArizonaITPro [mailto:kpr...@arizonaitpro.com]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VMWare Product Confusion

1.x and 2.x run on top of Windows while ESXi has it's own OS, and runs 
independent of Windows.

ESXi is a stripped down version of ESX.  You will see huge increases in VM 
performance under ESXi.

Klint



Roger Wright wrote:
So what are the primary differences between v1.x , and v2.0 and ESXi?



Roger Wright
Network Administrator
Evatone, Inc.
727.572.7076  x388
_

From: gswe...@actsconsulting.net 
[mailto:gswe...@actsconsulting.net]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

We have moved all of our clients to ESXi that were using Server 1.x or 2.0 
unless there was some specific reason the Host OS had to stay online.  Not many 
cases of those though.
The only main issue was some NIC driver issues on some whitebox machines we 
have been begging to get rid of.

From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:jcas...@activenetwerx.com]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 5:00 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare Product Confusion

No, ESXi is free now, and I would use it in a heartbeat over server.
jlc

From: Roger Wright [mailto:rwri...@evatone.com]
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 2:55 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VMWare Product Confusion


I'm running with several VMs under VMware Server 1.0.8, primarily because it 
was free and gave us an opportunity to move into the virtual arena.



Is VMware Server 2.0 also free to use?  If so, any reason not to move to 2.0?



Is this the highest level VMWare product which is available at no cost?





Roger Wright

Network Administrator

Evatone, Inc.

727.572.7076  x388





_






































~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Aaaiiiyyyeeeeee!!! OOO notices! (OT)

[Greg Mulholland]

i saw it that way as well unil i read it again. wow, spooky!

Greg

From: Kennedy, Jim [kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Wednesday, 31 December 2008 2:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Aaaiiiyyyee!!! OOO notices! (OT)

Ok, I am off to get more coffee. I saw "doesn't" instead of what you actually 
wrote.


> -Original Message-
> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 10:48 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Aaaiiiyyyee!!! OOO notices! (OT)
>
> Isn't that what I said?
>
> :-)
>
> But my biggest issue is that in our organization, that's not
> particularly useful. We need everyone to get OOFs, including people
> outside the organization. Although customizing the message sent
> internally vs. externally is nice.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:46 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Aaaiiiyyyee!!! OOO notices! (OT)
>
>
> Sure it does, that is how ours is I just retested it to be certain.
> Internals get OOF's and externals do not.
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 9:38 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Aaaiiiyyyee!!! OOO notices! (OT)
>
>
> > Exchange 2007 does support separating the handling of OOO's between
> > internal and external senders...
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

[Greg Mulholland]

you are a pita! :p

i guess what matthew says is right. if you need a cheap alternative then there 
are a few around. It will come down to specific circumstances.

Greg

From: Steve Moffat [st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin 
[ntsysad...@optimum.bm]
Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 9:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

Openfiler is a SAN...whether you like it or not...iSCSI target is a PITA

From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:g...@krystaltek.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 6:27 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?


Our storage requirements are pretty clear cut and needy so they were happy to 
pay to do it properly.



you dont need openfiler or freenas. just enable the iscsi target on most linux 
distros (fedora etc) plenty of google reading on that


Greg

From: Matthew W. Ross [mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 9:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

We use OpenFiler here, with good results.

Basically, if boils down to: If you want something you support yourself for 
cheap (This is our case), use OpenFiler or FreeNAS.

If you want something with paid support, especially for the hardware, go with a 
commercial product.

For us, the cost savings of OpenFiler iSCSI outweighed the support provided by 
the Commercial iSCSI solutions.

--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District

- Original Message -
From: Greg Mulholland
[mailto:g...@krystaltek.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2008
13:48:29 -0800
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production
environment?


> i use it for our test clusters. but i wouldnt use it in production. Steve
> and i have had this discussion and he wont convince me. NEVER!!!
>
> Greg
> 
> From: Steve Moffat [st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin
> [ntsysad...@optimum.bm]
> Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 7:52 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
> I'll second Openfiler. Been using it to run a powervault 220s for 2 years
> now with not one issue. And if you need enterprise support they have that
> too.
>
> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:37 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
> My ESX instructor learned us how to use OpenFiler, and he said many
> companies use it for production.
>
> I don’t use it here, but I was very impressed with OpenFiler.  Maybe at
> some point...
>
> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:22 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
> Planning a move to VMWare ESX, and I'm evaluatiing my SAN choices.  I have
> OpenFiler in a production environment storing some of our data. On of our
> NAS box's flaked out on me, and I repurposed a server with Openfiler to fill
> the void and try out iSCSI SAN features.  I've been extremely happy with the
> performance.  Using it to run VM's and take advantage of High Availability
> features is where I am having some pause.  Wonder if anyone here has already
> blazed this trail
>
>
> Thanks,
> Jonathan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~











~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

[Greg Mulholland]

Our storage requirements are pretty clear cut and needy so they were happy to 
pay to do it properly.



you dont need openfiler or freenas. just enable the iscsi target on most linux 
distros (fedora etc) plenty of google reading on that


Greg

From: Matthew W. Ross [mr...@ephrataschools.org]
Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 9:09 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

We use OpenFiler here, with good results.

Basically, if boils down to: If you want something you support yourself for 
cheap (This is our case), use OpenFiler or FreeNAS.

If you want something with paid support, especially for the hardware, go with a 
commercial product.

For us, the cost savings of OpenFiler iSCSI outweighed the support provided by 
the Commercial iSCSI solutions.

--Matt Ross
Ephrata School District

- Original Message -
From: Greg Mulholland
[mailto:g...@krystaltek.com]
To: NT System Admin Issues
[mailto:ntsysad...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]
Sent: Thu, 11 Dec 2008
13:48:29 -0800
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production
environment?


> i use it for our test clusters. but i wouldnt use it in production. Steve
> and i have had this discussion and he wont convince me. NEVER!!!
>
> Greg
> 
> From: Steve Moffat [st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin
> [ntsysad...@optimum.bm]
> Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 7:52 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
> I'll second Openfiler. Been using it to run a powervault 220s for 2 years
> now with not one issue. And if you need enterprise support they have that
> too.
>
> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:37 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
> My ESX instructor learned us how to use OpenFiler, and he said many
> companies use it for production.
>
> I don’t use it here, but I was very impressed with OpenFiler.  Maybe at
> some point...
>
> From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:22 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?
>
> Planning a move to VMWare ESX, and I'm evaluatiing my SAN choices.  I have
> OpenFiler in a production environment storing some of our data. On of our
> NAS box's flaked out on me, and I repurposed a server with Openfiler to fill
> the void and try out iSCSI SAN features.  I've been extremely happy with the
> performance.  Using it to run VM's and take advantage of High Availability
> features is where I am having some pause.  Wonder if anyone here has already
> blazed this trail
>
>
> Thanks,
> Jonathan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

[Greg Mulholland]

i use it for our test clusters. but i wouldnt use it in production. Steve and i 
have had this discussion and he wont convince me. NEVER!!!

Greg

From: Steve Moffat [st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin 
[ntsysad...@optimum.bm]
Sent: Friday, 12 December 2008 7:52 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

I'll second Openfiler. Been using it to run a powervault 220s for 2 years now 
with not one issue. And if you need enterprise support they have that too.

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:sam.ca...@rollouts.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

My ESX instructor learned us how to use OpenFiler, and he said many companies 
use it for production.

I don’t use it here, but I was very impressed with OpenFiler.  Maybe at some 
point...

From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 2:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Anyone else using OpenFiler in a production environment?

Planning a move to VMWare ESX, and I'm evaluatiing my SAN choices.  I have 
OpenFiler in a production environment storing some of our data. On of our NAS 
box's flaked out on me, and I repurposed a server with Openfiler to fill the 
void and try out iSCSI SAN features.  I've been extremely happy with the 
performance.  Using it to run VM's and take advantage of High Availability 
features is where I am having some pause.  Wonder if anyone here has already 
blazed this trail


Thanks,
Jonathan















~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: i also need software recommendations

[Greg Mulholland]

Thanks ED

i think ill go with the 5000va or the hp r5500. still waiting on quotes.

Greg

From: Ziots, Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 6 December 2008 2:11 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: i also need software recommendations

Greg we are using the APC PowerStructure UPS’s and Metered Whips with our 
Blades. I would figure a 5000 Model or higher should have enough juice to take 
care of the blade enclosure.

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Phone: 401-639-3505
MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +

From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 10:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: i also need software recommendations

We are looking at the HP Blade enclosure c3000, MSA2000 and some brocade 
switches. I am trying to find a suitable UPS for this gear. Looking at the 
r5500 or the r3000. Anyone used these particularly with the blade enclosures 
mentioned. I would also like a comparable price with and APC model which i can 
get from our rep. (we normally get APC)

Greg











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RE: LinkedIn?

[Greg Mulholland]

yer. actually had someone mail me with a job prospect. A recommendation helped 
it think too


Greg

From: Angus Scott-Fleming [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 21 November 2008 5:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: OT: LinkedIn?

Anyone here belong to LinkedIn?  Found it any use?

Angus


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RE: Hyper V vs VMWare ESXi

[Greg Mulholland]

That's interesting you got my mail. i never did and neither did others.

Of curse you are right. The box needs to support hardware virtualisation, i had 
forgotten that, i guess the hardware i use 'just does' so i dont think about it.

Greg

From: Jon Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 13 November 2008 10:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hyper V vs VMWare ESXi

Greg, please look at the hardware requirements of Hyper-V their are things that 
may or may not cause you issues.  One of which is you need the ability to do 
virtualization on the hardware it is not just drivers.  I only wish it was.  I 
have a Dell 2850 that will not support Hyper-V but will support ESXi and 
Virtual Server.  At the moment it is a doing Virtual Server and I will admit 
that it is a bit of a hack but still ok for the limited about of work I 
expected of it.  Hyper-V is much better and I am currently supporting 4 servers 
with 2 more in the wings waiting on the down time to move them over to our Dell 
2900.

Jon

On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 5:54 PM, Greg Mulholland <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

Firstly ESX and ESXi are two different beasts. ESX in any way shape or form is 
not free.



ESXi by itself is however. Without any added features like Virtual Center etc 
etc



Hyperv will run on just about any hardware as it uses the windows driver model 
where as ESXi will be a little more tricky, not buy much though, Carl was not 
quite right. ESXi will run fine on whiteboxes, or desktops. The only 
requirements that you will generally find is the scsi or sata controller is 
supported and the network card. I have successfully built a number using a $150 
sata controller and Intel 1gb nic's. In fact my home AMD workstation is running 
ESXi right now.



If you are looking at this from a licensing perspective (good luck) then you 
will need to evaluate whether buying a std, ent, dc version of Windows 2008 and 
the additional licenses to run Hyperv guests on that box will be something that 
floats your boat or not. You would also need to look at which version of hyperv 
you would use, full, server core or standalone. Pay some attention to how you 
will manage these virtual hosts too, hint# if you are planning server core or 
standalone then be prepared for some hoop jumping.



I have used both and an unashamedly of the Vmware religion as is my job these 
days and so am a little biased. But I have had a fair play with Hyperv in all 
its forms and it still feels betaish to me. Some of the feature set outlined 
for the next version look great but that is 2 years away. If we compare these 
two versions only then I would say they both work but I like the Vmware 
VIClient interface and management much more than the Hyperv console.



My advice, after all that would be to try them out. Presumably you are going to 
have to look after them and feel comfortable supporting them so I would start 
with building a box for yourself to test with and going through the normal 
procedures you would to get this into production. Then try the other type and 
you will get an idea of what suits your environment and your skillset.



Greg





From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:21 AM

To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Hyper V vs VMWare ESXi



Hi folks,



I know this has been discussed earlier, but it has been a few months, and 
(iirc) VMWare ESXi has come out since then. Also I think/hope some of the 
experts here have had a chance to try Hyper-V and/or ESXi a bit more, and might 
have more comments.



I am under financial restraints, and thus the full ESX version, or other paid 
products, will not be viable for me. At this point, I'm looking at virtualizing 
a few web servers, using MS Server 2003. These are front end machines that 
"hook" to a back end SQL servers. A couple of these web servers get very little 
traffic, and some will have more. I'll look into Enterprise and DataCenter 
versions because of the multiple copies on a virtual server that are allowed.



I'm planning on using the local server for disk storage, no NAS/SAN involved. I 
do have the hardware that can run the virtual software necessary (maybe need 
some more RAM).



My question. Preference? Also any new links that might compare the two? I might 
also look into Xen/Citrix free version, so if anybody has comments on that, 
please let me know.



Thanks.

Mark

















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RE: Virtual Nic's

[Greg Mulholland]

We have 6-8 nics in our boxes (either dual or quad port cards) this allows us 
redundancy on all virtual switches. In most cases


From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:16 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Virtual Nic's

We use VLAN tagging on our NIC's in ESX3.5i which is nice when you want to push 
multiple VLAN's over 1 NIC or 2 NIC's total and not have to buy a ton of NIC's 
per Virtual Server.

Z

Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Phone: 401-639-3505
MCSE, MCP+I, ME, CCA, Security +, Network +

From: Brumbaugh, Luke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Virtual Nic's

As long as you have Gb nics,   I wouldn't buy additional nics for each virtual 
server.
If you are using more bandwidth than that on a virtual, does it really need to 
be virtual or off on it's own box.


From: Steve Ens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 4:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Virtual Nic's

What is the list's opinion on using network connections in virtual machines?  
Do you put a separate NIC for each virtual machine or do you piggy back on the 
internal NIC(s)?  I bought a quad NIC for my Hyper V and just split off one for 
each machine.  But for those servers that have more than 10 machines on them, I 
guess you would have to share...





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RE: RE: Hyper V vs VMWare ESXi

[Greg Mulholland]

Be careful..

We are not talking about ESX and Hyperv here. Anyone with half a brain knows 
there is no contest between the two overall.

We are talking strictly about ESXi and HyperV

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: RE: Hyper V vs VMWare ESXi

Yup, indeed it does.

Also, there is no comparison between any version of ESX & HyPer-V

At the moment, ESX wins hands down on all fronts. MS will probably catch up in 
around 10 years.
S

-Original Message-
From: Al Lilianstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 6:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: RE: Hyper V vs VMWare ESXi

ESXi will run on white boxes and desktops. I have run it on a Dell 
Optiplex 620 and there is a whole community of folks running it on 
whiteboxes.

Google esx white box

Particularly the link - http://communities.vmware.com/thread/98225

Lots of people are running esx and ESXi on cheap hardware.

al
--
Al Lilianstrom
CD/LSC/CSI/CSG
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 12:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hyper V vs VMWare ESXi

The basic differences between the two free products - Hyper-V Server 
2008 (hereafter HVS08) vs. ESXi , are:

ESXi has specific requirements on server and storage hardware.  Those 
requirements are far more restrictive than HVS08 - for example you won't 
be able to run ESXi on a white box or desktop.   HVS08 will run on any 
hardware with driver support for Windows 2008.

HVS08 requires 64-bit and Intel-VT or AMD-V CPU support.  ESXi can run 
on older server platforms that predate those features.

ESXi allows over-subscription of memory.  That means you could run two 
VMs allocated 4 GB each on a machine with less than 8 GB.  HVS08 has 
almost as much RAM overhead as running it under Windows Server 2008 Core 
- so you would need about 9 GB to run two 4GB VMs.

Carl

From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 12:21 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Hyper V vs VMWare ESXi

Hi folks,

I know this has been discussed earlier, but it has been a few months, 
and (iirc) VMWare ESXi has come out since then. Also I think/hope some 
of the experts here have had a chance to try Hyper-V and/or ESXi a bit 
more, and might have more comments.

I am under financial restraints, and thus the full ESX version, or other 
paid products, will not be viable for me. At this point, I'm looking at 
virtualizing a few web servers, using MS Server 2003. These are front 
end machines that "hook" to a back end SQL servers. A couple of these 
web servers get very little traffic, and some will have more. I'll look 
into Enterprise and DataCenter versions because of the multiple copies 
on a virtual server that are allowed.

I'm planning on using the local server for disk storage, no NAS/SAN 
involved. I do have the hardware that can run the virtual software 
necessary (maybe need some more RAM).

My question. Preference? Also any new links that might compare the two? 
I might also look into Xen/Citrix free version, so if anybody has 
comments on that, please let me know.

Thanks.

Mark


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~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Hyper V vs VMWare ESXi

[Greg Mulholland]

Firstly ESX and ESXi are two different beasts. ESX in any way shape or form is 
not free.

ESXi by itself is however. Without any added features like Virtual Center etc 
etc

Hyperv will run on just about any hardware as it uses the windows driver model 
where as ESXi will be a little more tricky, not buy much though, Carl was not 
quite right. ESXi will run fine on whiteboxes, or desktops. The only 
requirements that you will generally find is the scsi or sata controller is 
supported and the network card. I have successfully built a number using a $150 
sata controller and Intel 1gb nic's. In fact my home AMD workstation is running 
ESXi right now.

If you are looking at this from a licensing perspective (good luck) then you 
will need to evaluate whether buying a std, ent, dc version of Windows 2008 and 
the additional licenses to run Hyperv guests on that box will be something that 
floats your boat or not. You would also need to look at which version of hyperv 
you would use, full, server core or standalone. Pay some attention to how you 
will manage these virtual hosts too, hint# if you are planning server core or 
standalone then be prepared for some hoop jumping.

I have used both and an unashamedly of the Vmware religion as is my job these 
days and so am a little biased. But I have had a fair play with Hyperv in all 
its forms and it still feels betaish to me. Some of the feature set outlined 
for the next version look great but that is 2 years away. If we compare these 
two versions only then I would say they both work but I like the Vmware 
VIClient interface and management much more than the Hyperv console.

My advice, after all that would be to try them out. Presumably you are going to 
have to look after them and feel comfortable supporting them so I would start 
with building a box for yourself to test with and going through the normal 
procedures you would to get this into production. Then try the other type and 
you will get an idea of what suits your environment and your skillset.

Greg


From: Reimer, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 4:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Hyper V vs VMWare ESXi

Hi folks,

I know this has been discussed earlier, but it has been a few months, and 
(iirc) VMWare ESXi has come out since then. Also I think/hope some of the 
experts here have had a chance to try Hyper-V and/or ESXi a bit more, and might 
have more comments.

I am under financial restraints, and thus the full ESX version, or other paid 
products, will not be viable for me. At this point, I'm looking at virtualizing 
a few web servers, using MS Server 2003. These are front end machines that 
"hook" to a back end SQL servers. A couple of these web servers get very little 
traffic, and some will have more. I'll look into Enterprise and DataCenter 
versions because of the multiple copies on a virtual server that are allowed.

I'm planning on using the local server for disk storage, no NAS/SAN involved. I 
do have the hardware that can run the virtual software necessary (maybe need 
some more RAM).

My question. Preference? Also any new links that might compare the two? I might 
also look into Xen/Citrix free version, so if anybody has comments on that, 
please let me know.

Thanks.

Mark






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~   ~

RE: webiste to create zip file

[Greg Mulholland]

Yeah I thought as much.. thanks

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 1:54 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: webiste to create zip file

Uggg.
OK, there is a 7z SDK available. You may have to get creative and build your
own.
http://www.7-zip.org/sdk.html


-Original Message-
From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 6:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: webiste to create zip file

Political reasons. Not much choice

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 12:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: webiste to create zip file

Concur.

-Original Message-
From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 2:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: webiste to create zip file

Then I would stick to ZIP. Why burden clients with stuff like this?

-- 
Mike Gill


-Original Message-
From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: webiste to create zip file

No its because I am talking about clients who we deal with who don't have
control over their machines or soe. But yes I'd say they may well be :)



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~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: webiste to create zip file

[Greg Mulholland]

Political reasons. Not much choice

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 12:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: webiste to create zip file

Concur.

-Original Message-
From: Mike Gill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 2:41 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: webiste to create zip file

Then I would stick to ZIP. Why burden clients with stuff like this?

-- 
Mike Gill


-Original Message-
From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 2:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: webiste to create zip file

No its because I am talking about clients who we deal with who don't have
control over their machines or soe. But yes I'd say they may well be :)



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RE: webiste to create zip file

[Greg Mulholland]

No its because I am talking about clients who we deal with who don't have 
control over their machines or soe. But yes I'd say they may well be :)

-Original Message-
From: Durf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 9:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: webiste to create zip file

Is this just because users are too dumb to run 7zip locally...?

I don't have anything helpful to contribute...just mind boggled.

--Durf

On 11/6/08, Greg Mulholland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Guys
>
> Sort of a weird request but
>
> I'm looking for a website that will allow users to upload a file and
> download the archived zip file. With one catch, not a .zip but a .7z
> extension.
>
> We use 7z but some of our clients cant install the software on their
> machines and im looking for a way to get around it. If anyone knows of any
> sites like that I'd be grateful. I've found a few that only give you a .zip
>
> Thanks
>
> Greg
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~


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webiste to create zip file

[Greg Mulholland]

Hi Guys

Sort of a weird request but

I'm looking for a website that will allow users to upload a file and download 
the archived zip file. With one catch, not a .zip but a .7z extension.

We use 7z but some of our clients cant install the software on their machines 
and im looking for a way to get around it. If anyone knows of any sites like 
that I'd be grateful. I've found a few that only give you a .zip

Thanks

Greg

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?

[Greg Mulholland]

Hardware spending is not so much of an issue. We are fortunate that HP owes us 
some money and is giving us hardware instead. So we are basically going from a 
dell dc to a hp dc. New c class blade chassis with 5 blades + esx ent license 
for each, new fc san, fully racked and ups'ed. So other hardware purchases are 
small. The biggest issue is IT resourcing. We have been trying to hire a new 
2nd level for a month or two now and head office won't have a bar of it.

Greg

From: Don Guyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 1:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?

We're going through next year's budget right now and it's being slashed like a 
victim from Nightmare on Elm St.

:)

Don Guyer
Systems Engineer
Information Services Department
Prudential Fox Roach/ Trident
431 W. Lancaster Avenue
Devon, PA 19333
Ph: (610) 993-3299
Fax: (610) 650-5306
www.prufoxroach.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: So... how is the recession affecting your buying decisions?

You're all the admins who actually buy the stuff that people like Sunbelt (and 
many, many others make).  How are you seeing the recession impact your buying 
decisions?

Are you being told to hold off until "later"?  Is it business as usual?  Or is 
it a bloodletting?   Are you still buying cheap stuff but not buying expensive 
stuff?   Etc., etc.

Maybe I'm opening the Pandora's Box here, but I think we need to all look at 
the situation realistically.

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RE: VMware ESXi 3.5 On Dell 2550

[Greg Mulholland]

Am I missing something here. Its not so much that you cant install esx, its 
that rhel wont see any storage right? 

If you had hcl issues ESX would complain about not being able to finish its 
install. Fwiw I have 3 2550's in my test esx lab and they work fine. 

So if you open the vi client does the vmfs volume for your local storage show 
up under the configuration/storage area? How big is it?

-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Zachary - Lists [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 11:51 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMware ESXi 3.5 On Dell 2550

Okay, maybe perc4 is as far back as it goes.

Check the esxi hcl

-Original Message-
From: Robert Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 08:14
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMware ESXi 3.5 On Dell 2550

The install doesn't complete. Only gets as far as partitioning the
disks. When
it can find any, the installation aborts.

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Sent: Wednesday October 2008 12:10
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Bayesian Filter detected spam - RE:
VMware ESXi 3.5 On Dell 2550

When the install completes do you have available storage? 

Im surprised you get through the installation but then get a message
like
that. IIRC all PERC controllers are listed in the HCL. 





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RE: Basic Drive Partition Question

[Greg Mulholland]

No way in hell would I put mbs in your bracket!! :p

You did ask for it!

From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 8:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Basic Drive Partition Question

Before Mulholland chips in...Not as old as me!!

:)

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 6:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Basic Drive Partition Question

I said "USED TO BE". I'm old. :)

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
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From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 5:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Basic Drive Partition Question

Interesting, I see your point.  Still though, the head would be jumping 
around a lot less.  Wouldn't that contribute to some gains?


From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Basic Drive Partition Question
>From a friend of mine at Fujitsu.

There is no longer any point to short stroking a drive. Modern Drives have 
recording density zones that basically change with the distance from center. I 
am not sure there's been a non-zoned drive made in about a decade...:)

S

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 5:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Basic Drive Partition Question

Not funny at all, actually; it used to be quite common to avoid "full stroke" 
access. You never wanted a disk to use more than 20% of its stroke time in 
order to maximize performance. I saw this in mainframes, in large database 
rollouts, in large Exchange rollouts, etc.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
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Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange

From: Steve Moffat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Basic Drive Partition Question

Lol...that's too funny!!!

From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 5:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Basic Drive Partition Question

I say yes.   What if you create a partition on the faster, outer edge of the 
drive platters, and put your most accessed system files there, or the whole OS? 
 And less accessed files toward the inside of the drive.




From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 2:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Basic Drive Partition Question
Performance no, perhaps even a small hit to performance. But you can keep the 
data on another partition to keep it from filling and crashing the whole OS if 
it were just all on one partition.


From: Bill Lambert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 3:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Basic Drive Partition Question

We've been arguing here...and I can't find anything definitive on Google...

Is there any gain in performance if you have a single (NTFS) drive in two 
partitions?  One partition for the OS and the other for everything else?

I say no but it wouldn't be the first time I've been wrong.

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RE: VMware Server 2.0

[Greg Mulholland]

I think it is. Been using it since the day it came out for client test kits. 
Works a treat.

Greg

From: Joe Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 25 October 2008 6:06 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: VMware Server 2.0

I was just wondering if VMware Server has gotten any better since it came out 
of beta.  I stopped using the beta due to some performance issues that I 
attributed to all the debug code that was in there. I've stuck with 1.x 
versions until now because the were more "lightweight", but am considering 
updating it.

Thanks in advance.
-Joe

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RE: Stopping users emailing out internal docs

[Greg Mulholland]

yep
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/ie6/downloads/addon/rm.mspx



From: Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 22 October 2008 7:35 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Stopping users emailing out internal docs

Office 2003 works with Windows Rights Management (as does IE6 with some add-on 
component you need to install).

Cheers
Ken

> -Original Message-
> From: Oliver Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, 22 October 2008 7:03 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Stopping users emailing out internal docs
>
> Thanks for all the info chaps.
>
> I think that with some changes to the email policies and a bit of
> reporting, as well as some time spent looking at WRM (they are currently
> running Office 2003 so won't be any use till they upgrade) then I think
> we will easily satisfy the requirements of local law.
>
> I feel a blog post coming on.
>
> Olly
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 22 October 2008 01:52
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Stopping users emailing out internal docs
>
> Windows Rights Management can stop people printing things.
>
> Copying stuff to USB keys is pointless - the documents are encrypted. If
> you don't have access to the RM server, you can't decrypt the document.
> Same with forwarding the document somewhere else.
>
> You can stop Alt+Print Screen as well.
>
> You can't stop *analogue* attacks (which is why it's called "Digital"
> rights management). If someone brings in a camera and takes a photo of
> the screen, then there's not much you can do about that. But analogue
> attacks are much slower to execute than digital attacks.
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 22 October 2008 11:16 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Stopping users emailing out internal docs
> >
> >
> > It also won't stop printing it and faxing it or putting the paper in
> their
> > pocket. Or   and emailing the jpg. Or a hundred
> other ways
> > we could all dream up.
> >
> > The OP needs to make enough effort to satisfy the law in his country
> so that a
> > good faith effort can be shown from what I read in his original post.
> If this
> > gets him there only the lawyers can say.
> >
> > 
> > From: Sherry Abercrombie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 4:33 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Stopping users emailing out internal docs
> >
> > Policies to prevent the unauthorized use of usb ports.  There's good
> software
> > that will do this, and will apply even on machines (laptops) that are
> off the
> > network.
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 21, 2008 at 3:28 PM, NTSysAdmin
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Would that stop them dragging & dropping onto a usb stick?
> >
> >
> >
> > S
> >
> >
> >
> > From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 5:11 PM
> >
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Stopping users emailing out internal docs
> >
> >
> >
> > Good job guys, Information Rights Management, that's it...
> >
> > http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/help/HA101029181033.aspx
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Oliver Marshall
> >
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] om>]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 12:19 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Stopping users emailing out internal docs
> >
> >
> >
> > And thats still part of Office Server isn't it ?
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Kennedy, Jim
> >
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >]
> > Sent: 21 October 2008 20:15
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Stopping users emailing out internal docs
> >
> >
> >
> > Microsoft's Rights Management can do much of what you seek. Although
> it isn't
> > perfect and can be beat it should get you to be able to say you tried
> really
> > hard to the lawyers.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Oliver Marshall
> >
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] om>]
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 2:59 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Stopping users emailing out internal docs
> >
> >
> >
> > Remember remember.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: 21 October 2008 19:43
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Stopping users emailing out internal docs
> >
> >
> >
> > I seem to think InfoPath or Groove or some other MS tool can do this
> kind of
> > job - you can select an e-mail and effectively make it
> "unforwardable", it was
> > pretty slick...now if I could only remember what product it was...
> >
> > David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
> > NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
> > (Desk) 971.222.1025 // (Cell) 503.267.9764
> >
> > From: Oliver Marshall
> >
> [mailto

RE: Server naming - virtual vs physical

[Greg Mulholland]

same here

From: Steven M. Caesare [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 14 October 2008 10:15 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server naming - virtual vs physical

No. Server name is based on unit/function. We didn’t differentiate HP’s from 
Dell’s, so we don’t differentiate physical from virtual.

-sc

From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 11:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Server naming - virtual vs physical

Those of you with a good mix of virtual servers in your environment – do you 
differentiate the virtual servers from the physical ones on the server name? If 
so, how? If not, why not?
David Lum // SYSTEMS ENGINEER
NORTHWEST EVALUATION ASSOCIATION
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RE: Stupid DNS question...

[Greg Mulholland]

yeah i was thinking of the wrong thing. i'm sure ive done similar to this once 
with a script file or host file like of some sort. i just cant remeber the 
exact details.

From: Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 10 October 2008 3:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Stupid DNS question...

Um - that just sets the user's proxy server configuration. The problem here is 
DNS resolution...

Either the proxy server needs to use different DNS servers, or where the 
internal DNS record resolves to (DCs) needs to host a proxy server.

Cheers
Ken

> -Original Message-
> From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 10 October 2008 3:28 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Stupid DNS question...
>
> Thats the way i took it. actually a wpad script could probably do this in ISA
> or a simple proxy.pac if you had some other flavour. You'd have to test and
> might need some stuffing around to get it working.
>
> Greg
> 
> From: Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 10 October 2008 3:22 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Stupid DNS question...
>
> I got the impression that the boss wanted internal users that type in
> http://company.com to be taken to their externally hosted website, just like
> if they typed that into a browser when outside the company network.
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, 10 October 2008 3:10 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Stupid DNS question...
> >
> > I thought the OP was asking about INTERNALLY. I don't think that ISA is a
> > solution there
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
> > My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
> > Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 12:07 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Stupid DNS question...
> >
> > Well, Microsoft does make something called ISA Server :-)
> >
> > But there are some much lighter-weight options.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Ken
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, 10 October 2008 2:54 PM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Stupid DNS question...
> > >
> > > Well, tru dat.
> > >
> > > I was thinking of specifically MSFT software. So shoot me. :-)
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
> > > My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
> > > Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 11:11 PM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Stupid DNS question...
> > >
> > > You could put a proxy on your DCs - no need for IIS specifically.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Ken
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, 10 October 2008 2:07 PM
> > > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > > Subject: RE: Stupid DNS question...
> > > >
> > > > Can't be done without installing IIS (or a really smart traffic shaper).
> > > >
> > > > What you would do on your DC's is everything that comes in port 80 for
> > > > "example.com" you would redirect to "www.example.com".
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
> > > > My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
> > > > Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 7:46 PM
> > > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > > Subject: Re: Stupid DNS question...
> > > >
> > > > BTW - I'm fine if the answer is "can't be done without installing IIS"
> > > > - 'cause then I can tell them it's not worth it for security reasons,
> > > > and be done with it.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Michael B. Smith
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Do you have IIS installed on your domain controllers?
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
>
>
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>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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RE: Stupid DNS question...

[Greg Mulholland]

Thats the way i took it. actually a wpad script could probably do this in ISA 
or a simple proxy.pac if you had some other flavour. You'd have to test and 
might need some stuffing around to get it working.

Greg

From: Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 10 October 2008 3:22 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Stupid DNS question...

I got the impression that the boss wanted internal users that type in 
http://company.com to be taken to their externally hosted website, just like if 
they typed that into a browser when outside the company network.

Cheers
Ken

> -Original Message-
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 10 October 2008 3:10 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Stupid DNS question...
>
> I thought the OP was asking about INTERNALLY. I don't think that ISA is a
> solution there
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
> My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
> Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 12:07 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Stupid DNS question...
>
> Well, Microsoft does make something called ISA Server :-)
>
> But there are some much lighter-weight options.
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, 10 October 2008 2:54 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Stupid DNS question...
> >
> > Well, tru dat.
> >
> > I was thinking of specifically MSFT software. So shoot me. :-)
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
> > My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
> > Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 11:11 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Stupid DNS question...
> >
> > You could put a proxy on your DCs - no need for IIS specifically.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Ken
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, 10 October 2008 2:07 PM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: RE: Stupid DNS question...
> > >
> > > Can't be done without installing IIS (or a really smart traffic shaper).
> > >
> > > What you would do on your DC's is everything that comes in port 80 for
> > > "example.com" you would redirect to "www.example.com".
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
> > > My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
> > > Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 7:46 PM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: Re: Stupid DNS question...
> > >
> > > BTW - I'm fine if the answer is "can't be done without installing IIS"
> > > - 'cause then I can tell them it's not worth it for security reasons,
> > > and be done with it.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Michael B. Smith
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Do you have IIS installed on your domain controllers?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,


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RE: Stupid DNS question...

[Greg Mulholland]

and on a DC too.. starting to sound like an sbs setup :)

*duck*

From: Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 10 October 2008 3:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Stupid DNS question...

I thought the OP was asking about INTERNALLY. I don't think that ISA is a
solution there

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange


-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 12:07 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Stupid DNS question...

Well, Microsoft does make something called ISA Server :-)

But there are some much lighter-weight options.

Cheers
Ken

> -Original Message-
> From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 10 October 2008 2:54 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Stupid DNS question...
>
> Well, tru dat.
>
> I was thinking of specifically MSFT software. So shoot me. :-)
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
> My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
> Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 11:11 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Stupid DNS question...
>
> You could put a proxy on your DCs - no need for IIS specifically.
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, 10 October 2008 2:07 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Stupid DNS question...
> >
> > Can't be done without installing IIS (or a really smart traffic shaper).
> >
> > What you would do on your DC's is everything that comes in port 80 for
> > "example.com" you would redirect to "www.example.com".
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
> > My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
> > Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 7:46 PM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Re: Stupid DNS question...
> >
> > BTW - I'm fine if the answer is "can't be done without installing IIS"
> > - 'cause then I can tell them it's not worth it for security reasons,
> > and be done with it.
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 4:18 PM, Michael B. Smith
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Do you have IIS installed on your domain controllers?
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
> > > My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
> > > Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 7:05 PM
> > > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > > Subject: Stupid DNS question...
> > >
> > > My DNS skills are weak...
> > >
> > > We run a split brain DNS - ISP takes care of external, we do internal.
> > >
> > > Internally, www points to external web site, but president of company
> > > wants bare URL (http://mycompany.com) also to resolve to external.
> > >
> > > I tried adding a blank record to internal DNS pointing to external web
> > > site, but that seems not to be working.
> > >
> > > How can I implement this?
> > >
> > > Kurt


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RE: hyperv server

[Greg Mulholland]

what version of hyperv. i am asking specifically about the latest standalone 
hypervisor install, not windows 2008.


From: John Hornbuckle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 10 October 2008 12:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: hyperv server

I'm able to manage Hyper-V from my Vista machine. I don't recall having had to 
jump through any big hoops to get it to work...





John Hornbuckle
MIS Department
Taylor County School District
www.taylor.k12.fl.us



-Original Message-----
From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 9:08 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: hyperv server

OK so im giving in to the dark side and setting up a hyperv server (the 
standalone thing they brought out last week or so)

Has anyone had a play with this and been able to get a vista client to manage 
it. Im trying to manage it with my laptop (server and client in workgroup)

I know the ridiculous amount of steps you had to go throuoght to enable remote 
management with hyperv installed on server core but this is a different kettle 
of fish all toghether. The same procedurs dont work simply because those parts 
of the OS are not present in the standalone hyperv.

The error i get is 'cant connect to remote host, make sure the vmm service is 
running or something to that effect. Ive spent days searching the net for any 
info but havent found any. I am going to attempt to rebuild the hyperv and see 
if that magically fixes anything.

 It seems that MS are forcing you into domain membership with your  host and 
management pc's and if that is there strategy, good luck is all i can say, 
equivalent products in the market dont seem to have such limitations. They need 
to fix hyperv in the future if they want to compete. I laughed when i read a 
blog the other day about 'hyper, the windows you know and love' yeah the one 
that is harder to manager, takes longer to install/deploy/configure than others 
i.e ESX. I thought it was extermely funny that when i had finished the setup 
part of the hyperv server it said preapring dektop for 2 minutes and all i got 
was a dos window :). but i am giving it a go.

Greg
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RE: hyperv server

[Greg Mulholland]

Yep.. even on servcer core you shouldnt have to do what you have to do to get 
it working, i would have hoped.

From: Steve Ens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 10 October 2008 12:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: hyperv server

Hey Greg
Sorry I can't help out with the bare metal hyper V...however I've run it 
sucessfully in the core and even easier with the full Windows install.
Steve

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 8:08 PM, Greg Mulholland <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
OK so im giving in to the dark side and setting up a hyperv server (the 
standalone thing they brought out last week or so)

Has anyone had a play with this and been able to get a vista client to manage 
it. Im trying to manage it with my laptop (server and client in workgroup)

I know the ridiculous amount of steps you had to go throuoght to enable remote 
management with hyperv installed on server core but this is a different kettle 
of fish all toghether. The same procedurs dont work simply because those parts 
of the OS are not present in the standalone hyperv.

The error i get is 'cant connect to remote host, make sure the vmm service is 
running or something to that effect. Ive spent days searching the net for any 
info but havent found any. I am going to attempt to rebuild the hyperv and see 
if that magically fixes anything.

 It seems that MS are forcing you into domain membership with your  host and 
management pc's and if that is there strategy, good luck is all i can say, 
equivalent products in the market dont seem to have such limitations. They need 
to fix hyperv in the future if they want to compete. I laughed when i read a 
blog the other day about 'hyper, the windows you know and love' yeah the one 
that is harder to manager, takes longer to install/deploy/configure than others 
i.e ESX. I thought it was extermely funny that when i had finished the setup 
part of the hyperv server it said preapring dektop for 2 minutes and all i got 
was a dos window :). but i am giving it a go.

Greg
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~







~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: hyperv server

[Greg Mulholland]

Both in a workgroup.

initialiy it didnt becausse the server has an admin account and my vista 
machine doesnt. After adding a local user (mirroring my vista user) to the hv 
server still no joy.

From: Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 10 October 2008 2:01 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: hyperv server

Are they in a workgroup? Or a Domain?

If using a workgroup - does it work if you have the same username/password on 
both machines?

Cheers
Ken

> -Original Message-
> From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 10 October 2008 12:15 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: hyperv server
>
> I'm able to manage Hyper-V from my Vista machine. I don't recall having had to
> jump through any big hoops to get it to work...
>
>
>
>
>
> John Hornbuckle
> MIS Department
> Taylor County School District
> www.taylor.k12.fl.us
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 9:08 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: hyperv server
>
> OK so im giving in to the dark side and setting up a hyperv server (the
> standalone thing they brought out last week or so)
>
> Has anyone had a play with this and been able to get a vista client to manage
> it. Im trying to manage it with my laptop (server and client in workgroup)
>
> I know the ridiculous amount of steps you had to go throuoght to enable remote
> management with hyperv installed on server core but this is a different kettle
> of fish all toghether. The same procedurs dont work simply because those parts
> of the OS are not present in the standalone hyperv.
>
> The error i get is 'cant connect to remote host, make sure the vmm service is
> running or something to that effect. Ive spent days searching the net for any
> info but havent found any. I am going to attempt to rebuild the hyperv and see
> if that magically fixes anything.
>
>  It seems that MS are forcing you into domain membership with your  host and
> management pc's and if that is there strategy, good luck is all i can say,
> equivalent products in the market dont seem to have such limitations. They
> need to fix hyperv in the future if they want to compete. I laughed when i
> read a blog the other day about 'hyper, the windows you know and love' yeah
> the one that is harder to manager, takes longer to install/deploy/configure
> than others i.e ESX. I thought it was extermely funny that when i had finished
> the setup part of the hyperv server it said preapring dektop for 2 minutes and
> all i got was a dos window :). but i am giving it a go.
>
> Greg
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Stupid DNS question...

[Greg Mulholland]

Sounds like a bad practise to allow internal web requests to be forwarded out 
to the net unless you have a good reason to do so.


From: Kurt Buff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 10 October 2008 10:44 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Stupid DNS question...

It resolves to the IP address of my main DC - the FSMO role holder.

On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 4:33 PM, Ken Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What does ping mycompany.com resolve to?
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, 10 October 2008 10:05 AM
>> To: NT System Admin Issues
>> Subject: Stupid DNS question...
>>
>> My DNS skills are weak...
>>
>> We run a split brain DNS - ISP takes care of external, we do internal.
>>
>> Internally, www points to external web site, but president of company
>> wants bare URL (http://mycompany.com) also to resolve to external.
>>
>> I tried adding a blank record to internal DNS pointing to external web
>> site, but that seems not to be working.
>>
>> How can I implement this?
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

hyperv server

[Greg Mulholland]

OK so im giving in to the dark side and setting up a hyperv server (the 
standalone thing they brought out last week or so)

Has anyone had a play with this and been able to get a vista client to manage 
it. Im trying to manage it with my laptop (server and client in workgroup)

I know the ridiculous amount of steps you had to go throuoght to enable remote 
management with hyperv installed on server core but this is a different kettle 
of fish all toghether. The same procedurs dont work simply because those parts 
of the OS are not present in the standalone hyperv.

The error i get is 'cant connect to remote host, make sure the vmm service is 
running or something to that effect. Ive spent days searching the net for any 
info but havent found any. I am going to attempt to rebuild the hyperv and see 
if that magically fixes anything.

 It seems that MS are forcing you into domain membership with your  host and 
management pc's and if that is there strategy, good luck is all i can say, 
equivalent products in the market dont seem to have such limitations. They need 
to fix hyperv in the future if they want to compete. I laughed when i read a 
blog the other day about 'hyper, the windows you know and love' yeah the one 
that is harder to manager, takes longer to install/deploy/configure than others 
i.e ESX. I thought it was extermely funny that when i had finished the setup 
part of the hyperv server it said preapring dektop for 2 minutes and all i got 
was a dos window :). but i am giving it a go.

Greg
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Good text editor

[Greg Mulholland]

I use ultraedit and notepad++


From: Jim Dandy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 7 October 2008 11:02 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Good text editor

UltraEdit?

> -Original Message-
> From: IS Technical [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 10:26 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Good text editor
>
> #What's the best text editor out there for writing code and scripts
and such?
> I'd like to find
> #one that does line numbering obviously, and does some formatting to
keep
> things neat.
> #Like color coding expressions, functions, etc.  I'm trying to learn
> JavaScript, and using
> #Notepad and Dreamweaver are proving difficult.
>
> JEdit.
>
>
>
> Regards,
> Charles
>
> ---
>Charles Figueiredo PhD
>Integrated Solutions - Enhancing Small Business Systems
> ---
>
>
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Virtual Center query

[Greg Mulholland]

What versions are you running..

I have seen this when the host agent dies. I think it was a 3.02 box from memory

i think i had to kill the vpxa service and restart it from within the host 
(using ssh). I think there was a kb article about it, but i cant remember where 
right now

I'd be interested to know if the host is part of a cluster and if so removing 
it and re-adding it helped. also you can edit the xml file and turn up VC 
logging to give you more info, but i dont have that handy at the moment. I 
documented it for work but im not there right now

Greg

From: James Rankin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 3 October 2008 7:39 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Virtual Center query

Does anybody have any idea why sometimes some of my ESX servers show as not 
responding in VirtualCenter, and the guests running on it show as disconnected? 
The guests themselves are still up and running fine, but they won't respond to 
VirtualCenter commands (all the options are greyed out). The only way to get 
around this seems to be shut down all the guests on the affected server, and 
then restart the ESX server - not really an option when my Exchange, Excalibur 
and SQL servers are running on this particular ESX box. If ESX was Windows, I 
guess I'd be looking for a failed service or something, but being a bit of a 
Unix/ESX amateur I'm not sure where to start troubleshooting

TIA,



JRR





~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: SysInternals Updates

[Greg Mulholland]

Well everyone knows that African swallows are non migratory! ahh never get sick 
of a good python reference.

g


From: wjh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 2 October 2008 12:06 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SysInternals Updates

what do you mean?  African or European swallow?

WJH

Kurt Buff wrote:

Cool.

So, what is the airspeed of an unladen swallow?

Heh.

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Michael B. Smith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Oops. sorry.

I'm under pressure to finish this @#$)([EMAIL PROTECTED] book. Any posting that 
I can
respond to gives me a little break. :-)

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:44 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SysInternals Updates

That was somewhat, sort of, in the nature of a joke, but I'm glad to
hear it nonetheless.

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Michael B. Smith
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


it uses webdav. nothing to do with your browser. Everything to do with
whether "web client" is an available and running service on your computer.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 9:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: SysInternals Updates

Does it work with Firefox?

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 5:41 PM, Sam Cayze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


You experts might all know this, but the following is VERY HANDY:

Sysinternals Live

Sysinternals Live is a service that enables you to execute Sysinternals
tools directly from the Web without hunting for and manually downloading
them. Simply enter a tool's Sysinternals Live path into Windows Explorer
or a command prompt as http://live.sysinternals.com/ or
\\live.sysinternals.com\tools\.

You can view the entire Sysinternals Live tools directory in a browser
at http://live.sysinternals.com.


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~ 

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~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ 

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~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ 

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~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ 

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~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
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~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Standalone Hyper-V vs. 2008 Hyper-V

[Greg Mulholland]

I'd agree with that.

Greg

From: Carl Houseman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 17 September 2008 1:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Standalone Hyper-V vs. 2008 Hyper-V

Thanks Greg.  According to what Ken said, a single W2K8 license includes two 
product keys, one for the Hyper-V host and another to run as a VM guest.  So 
the whole licensing sidebar (choosing to use one's W2K8 license for the host or 
the guest) was a non-issue, as well as not relevant to answering the question I 
posted – why would one, on a functionality level, choose a Windows 2008 Hyper-V 
host over a standalone Hyper-V host.

As far as clustering support and HA features, if I'm not mistaken you're 
talking about Windows 2008 Enterprise features, not in play for a 2008 Standard 
license.

As for a 4 physical processor limit, assuming you're talking sockets and not 
cores, that's up to 16 cores, plenty for most, at least this year.

Regarding the lost 512MB of RAM for running Windows 2008 as the host, I'd 
rather not waste it if there's not a good reason.  Someone might run 2 or 3 VMs 
on a box with only 4GB (not all of those VMs server 2008 of course), so a loss 
of 512MB could be meaningful.  A little less meaningful in my case (6GB soon to 
be 8GB, and just one quad-core) but I'd rather have that 512MB allocated to the 
VM's rather than running a host server for no good reason.

So, what I get from all the discussion, I haven't heard any reason to prefer 
Windows 2008 as the Hyper-V host server in a non-Enterprise situation.  I 
thought there could be management reasons, but it seems that equivalent 
management is possible without buying something.  Thanks everyone for your 
input.

Carl

From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Standalone Hyper-V vs. 2008 Hyper-V

I'll jump in in here where Ken left off.

The great benefit as i see it of using the Standalone HyperV model is that you 
dont have to introduce win2k8 servers into your network if you are not ready to 
for whatever reason. In fact you could go totally license free presuming that 
you were using open sauce software as guest VM's. There will be some benefit on 
the hardware resource side but bugger all if you choose to install the Hyperv 
as part of a server core installation. But the additional 512mb you may gain 
might be enough for 'a' guest.. hardly worth the trouble, that and they have 
said that the performance characteristics between them will be identical.

The drawback i see of the standalone hyperv is that you lose any clustering 
support and therefore what they call High Availability features obviously 
because you lose the benefits of the parent OS. It is also limited to 4 
physical processors and 32GB RAM.

Ken sort of did touch on these features but i guess you rubbed him the wrong 
way and he balked.

So if i understand your question you want to make sure that when you buy your 
single 2k8 std license that it is utilised for something individual or 
important like a stand alone file server for instance and not a HyperV host?? 
If that is the case and you cant/wont buy more licenses the yes i would agree, 
but the point Ken was trying to make im sure, is that only you will be able to 
make that judgement. Hopefully i have provided some detail for you from what i 
know so far. If you still need more you are going to have to dig yourself and 
perhaps wait until it is released and there is better supporting documentation.

HTH

Greg


From: Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 16 September 2008 10:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Standalone Hyper-V vs. 2008 Hyper-V


From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 16 September 2008 9:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Standalone Hyper-V vs. 2008 Hyper-V

But what is the advantage to spending the resources (RAM, disk) on even a 2008 
Server Core config to run the Hyper-V host, when my other choice is to save 
those resources for the actual VMs and use the standalone Hyper-V server 
instead?

What feature in Hyper-V host services under 2008 makes it advantageous to use 
that instead of standalone Hyper-V server, for the functional requirement I've 
outlined?

Answer the question or say "I don't know".

This wasn’t your original question. Please take your attitude somewhere else

For reference, your original question was:

Why would I NOT prefer to use standalone Hyper-V for all virtualized servers 
including 2008?

And the answer to that is “it depends”. You go figure it out for yourself.








~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Standalone Hyper-V vs. 2008 Hyper-V

[Greg Mulholland]

I'll jump in in here where Ken left off.

The great benefit as i see it of using the Standalone HyperV model is that you 
dont have to introduce win2k8 servers into your network if you are not ready to 
for whatever reason. In fact you could go totally license free presuming that 
you were using open sauce software as guest VM's. There will be some benefit on 
the hardware resource side but bugger all if you choose to install the Hyperv 
as part of a server core installation. But the additional 512mb you may gain 
might be enough for 'a' guest.. hardly worth the trouble, that and they have 
said that the performance characteristics between them will be identical.

The drawback i see of the standalone hyperv is that you lose any clustering 
support and therefore what they call High Availability features obviously 
because you lose the benefits of the parent OS. It is also limited to 4 
physical processors and 32GB RAM.

Ken sort of did touch on these features but i guess you rubbed him the wrong 
way and he balked.

So if i understand your question you want to make sure that when you buy your 
single 2k8 std license that it is utilised for something individual or 
important like a stand alone file server for instance and not a HyperV host?? 
If that is the case and you cant/wont buy more licenses the yes i would agree, 
but the point Ken was trying to make im sure, is that only you will be able to 
make that judgement. Hopefully i have provided some detail for you from what i 
know so far. If you still need more you are going to have to dig yourself and 
perhaps wait until it is released and there is better supporting documentation.

HTH

Greg


From: Ken Schaefer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 16 September 2008 10:10 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Standalone Hyper-V vs. 2008 Hyper-V



From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 16 September 2008 9:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Standalone Hyper-V vs. 2008 Hyper-V

But what is the advantage to spending the resources (RAM, disk) on even a 2008 
Server Core config to run the Hyper-V host, when my other choice is to save 
those resources for the actual VMs and use the standalone Hyper-V server 
instead?

What feature in Hyper-V host services under 2008 makes it advantageous to use 
that instead of standalone Hyper-V server, for the functional requirement I've 
outlined?

Answer the question or say "I don't know".

This wasn’t your original question. Please take your attitude somewhere else

For reference, your original question was:

Why would I NOT prefer to use standalone Hyper-V for all virtualized servers 
including 2008?

And the answer to that is “it depends”. You go figure it out for yourself.






~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Standalone Hyper-V vs. 2008 Hyper-V

[Greg Mulholland]

watch it buddy!! :p



From: Steve Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 16 September 2008 10:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Standalone Hyper-V vs. 2008 Hyper-V

So Carl's not allowed to ask more than one question per post.

I think your attitude is the bad attitude. They must be giving MVP status to 
anyone in OZ nowadays...

From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 9:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Standalone Hyper-V vs. 2008 Hyper-V



From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 16 September 2008 9:55 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Standalone Hyper-V vs. 2008 Hyper-V

But what is the advantage to spending the resources (RAM, disk) on even a 2008 
Server Core config to run the Hyper-V host, when my other choice is to save 
those resources for the actual VMs and use the standalone Hyper-V server 
instead?

What feature in Hyper-V host services under 2008 makes it advantageous to use 
that instead of standalone Hyper-V server, for the functional requirement I've 
outlined?

Answer the question or say "I don't know".

This wasn’t your original question. Please take your attitude somewhere else

For reference, your original question was:

Why would I NOT prefer to use standalone Hyper-V for all virtualized servers 
including 2008?

And the answer to that is “it depends”. You go figure it out for yourself.












~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.

[Greg Mulholland]

Not in 3.5 i don't think. It is a per VM setting, from memory

Greg


From: Tim Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 15 August 2008 1:10 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.

Well, yeah. I guess I got in a hurry and forgot to say that. Isn't it
the default to sync time with the host on ESX?

> -Original Message-
> From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 4:28 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.
>
> Only if yours guests are synchronising time with your esx hosts. not
> sure why you would want to do that?
>
> 
> From: Tim Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 15 August 2008 12:58 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.
>
> If you are running a DC virtualized, setting the clock back could have
> an impact.
>
> ...Tim
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:16 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.
> >
> > Dang... vmware makes one little small mistake and the world
unleashes
> > an arse kicking on them.
> >
> > MS makes many big mistakes all the time and we don't even flinch?
> Maybe
> > vmware should drop the ball daily and we would be happier?
> >
> > Man, that's life! Software has bugs, all I know is my history w/ esx
> > has always been extremely positive, and even this bug was trivial!
> Set
> > clock back, turn on vm's, set clock forward, **NO** harm done.
> >
> > Wow...
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:16 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.
> >
> > Hopefully they unbugged it with the new update accordingly, so you
> > don't
> > reapply faulty SP...
> >
> > Z
> >
> > Edward E. Ziots
> > Network Engineer
> > Lifespan Organization
> > MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
> > Phone: 401-639-3505
> > -Original Message-
> > From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:55 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.
> >
> > http://www.vmware.com/download/vi/
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
> >
> > ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> > ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.

[Greg Mulholland]

Only if yours guests are synchronising time with your esx hosts. not sure why 
you would want to do that?


From: Tim Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 15 August 2008 12:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.

If you are running a DC virtualized, setting the clock back could have
an impact.

...Tim

> -Original Message-
> From: Joseph L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:16 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.
>
> Dang... vmware makes one little small mistake and the world unleashes
> an arse kicking on them.
>
> MS makes many big mistakes all the time and we don't even flinch?
Maybe
> vmware should drop the ball daily and we would be happier?
>
> Man, that's life! Software has bugs, all I know is my history w/ esx
> has always been extremely positive, and even this bug was trivial! Set
> clock back, turn on vm's, set clock forward, **NO** harm done.
>
> Wow...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 7:16 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.
>
> Hopefully they unbugged it with the new update accordingly, so you
> don't
> reapply faulty SP...
>
> Z
>
> Edward E. Ziots
> Network Engineer
> Lifespan Organization
> MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA
> Phone: 401-639-3505
> -Original Message-
> From: N Parr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:55 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Looks like Vmware Update 2 is available again.
>
> http://www.vmware.com/download/vi/
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~
>
> ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
> ~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: Major Vmware Bug Hits Today, BE advised.

[Greg Mulholland]

Are you managing them via VC? If you point a client at the server itself does 
it ask to download the update, and it still doesnt install the updater? then im 
stumped without looking any deeper.
Greg

From: Joseph L. Casale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2008 1:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Major Vmware Bug Hits Today, BE advised.

Oh yeah, vm’s wont start w/o the date set back :)
It’s the fact that the installer never installed Infrastructure Update.
jlc

From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Major Vmware Bug Hits Today, BE advised.

That's strange. stupid question, are you sure its a U2 host?


From: Joseph L. Casale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2008 10:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Major Vmware Bug Hits Today, BE advised.
That’s the thing, the vi client from the http server on the 3.5i server did not 
install Infrastructure Update…
Not sure how to get that now that all 3.5i stuff is pulled from the vmware 
website.
Oh well…
jlc

From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 6:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Major Vmware Bug Hits Today, BE advised.

We do have VC but i havent got around to installing UM just yet. Only just 
recently gone to 3.5 and this is our first esxi box, all others are 3.5 update 1

The way i did it was to run the Vmware Infrastructure Update program. It found 
the available update and i ran it from there with no hassles.

Read the ESXi setup guide (either installable or embedded depending on which 
one you have) The details of how to use IU is in there

http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1006670

Cheers

Greg



From: Joseph L. Casale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2008 10:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Major Vmware Bug Hits Today, BE advised.
Greg what did you do to update it? Do you have a Virt Center license and use UM?
The RCLI command that is supposed to work hasn’t for me?

jlc

From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 4:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Major Vmware Bug Hits Today, BE advised.

I applied the update yesterday on esxi and all is well again

I can understand the timebomb code, most places will do it to stop propagation 
of leaked code but to not remove it when it goes live is a cardinal sin and a 
major balls up on their part in my book.
 How fortunate we were to not have all our hosts up to date yet!

Greg

From: Ziots, Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2008 1:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Major Vmware Bug Hits Today, BE advised.

The funny part this guy was an EX Microsoft Higher Up, and he is already making 
the wrong impression with the Virtual world at Vmware.

And trust me folks, the fix is not pretty, we are applying it now, and its 
quite funky,

Z



VMware has announced the availability of a patch to fix the date bug that was 
reported earlier yesterday. They have also released a 
letter<http://blogs.vmware.com/console/2008/08/letter-from-vmw.html> from their 
CEO, Paul Maritz, explaining the problem and apologizing for it. From VMware 
support:

Dear VMware Customer,

The express patches are now available for download that will resolve the 
ESX/ESXi 3.5 Update 2 issue which causes the product license to expire as of 
August 12, 2008. Please go to http://www.vmware.com/go/esxexpresspatches for 
more information.

Thank You,
The VMware ESX Product Team

The express patch page displays the following information, be sure and 
carefully read through the KB articles that apply to either ESX or ESXi before 
download the new versions. The ESXi patch is about 204MB in size and the ESX 
patch is 104MB. The patches do not require a reboot of the ESX host but it must 
be in maintenance mode and all virtual machines shut down or moved to other 
hosts before it can be applied. The suggested steps for applying the patch as 
posted by one user in the Vmtn forums are:

1) Turn off the ntp client on ESX 3.5 u2 server that you are going to VMotion 
VM’s too
2) Make sure VM’s tools do not have time “checked” Time synchronization between 
the virtual machine and ESX server operation system
3) Change the date on ESX server that you are going to vmotion your VMs to
4) vmotion the VM’s to the ESX server with the date changed
5) Apply the patch to the ESX 3.5 u2 server that the VMs have been moved off of
6_ Vmotion the VM’s back to the patched ESX 3.5 u2 server
7) Patch and change the date back on the other ESX 3.5 u2 server.

Express Patch Download
Special Notice: Please Read

An issue has been uncovered with ESX/ESXi 3.5 Update 2 that causes the product 
l

RE: Major Vmware Bug Hits Today, BE advised.

[Greg Mulholland]

That's strange. stupid question, are you sure its a U2 host?


From: Joseph L. Casale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2008 10:30 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Major Vmware Bug Hits Today, BE advised.

That’s the thing, the vi client from the http server on the 3.5i server did not 
install Infrastructure Update…
Not sure how to get that now that all 3.5i stuff is pulled from the vmware 
website.
Oh well…
jlc

From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 6:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Major Vmware Bug Hits Today, BE advised.

We do have VC but i havent got around to installing UM just yet. Only just 
recently gone to 3.5 and this is our first esxi box, all others are 3.5 update 1

The way i did it was to run the Vmware Infrastructure Update program. It found 
the available update and i ran it from there with no hassles.

Read the ESXi setup guide (either installable or embedded depending on which 
one you have) The details of how to use IU is in there

http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1006670

Cheers

Greg



From: Joseph L. Casale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2008 10:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Major Vmware Bug Hits Today, BE advised.
Greg what did you do to update it? Do you have a Virt Center license and use UM?
The RCLI command that is supposed to work hasn’t for me?

jlc

From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 4:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Major Vmware Bug Hits Today, BE advised.

I applied the update yesterday on esxi and all is well again

I can understand the timebomb code, most places will do it to stop propagation 
of leaked code but to not remove it when it goes live is a cardinal sin and a 
major balls up on their part in my book.
 How fortunate we were to not have all our hosts up to date yet!

Greg

From: Ziots, Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2008 1:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Major Vmware Bug Hits Today, BE advised.

The funny part this guy was an EX Microsoft Higher Up, and he is already making 
the wrong impression with the Virtual world at Vmware.

And trust me folks, the fix is not pretty, we are applying it now, and its 
quite funky,

Z



VMware has announced the availability of a patch to fix the date bug that was 
reported earlier yesterday. They have also released a 
letter<http://blogs.vmware.com/console/2008/08/letter-from-vmw.html> from their 
CEO, Paul Maritz, explaining the problem and apologizing for it. From VMware 
support:

Dear VMware Customer,

The express patches are now available for download that will resolve the 
ESX/ESXi 3.5 Update 2 issue which causes the product license to expire as of 
August 12, 2008. Please go to http://www.vmware.com/go/esxexpresspatches for 
more information.

Thank You,
The VMware ESX Product Team

The express patch page displays the following information, be sure and 
carefully read through the KB articles that apply to either ESX or ESXi before 
download the new versions. The ESXi patch is about 204MB in size and the ESX 
patch is 104MB. The patches do not require a reboot of the ESX host but it must 
be in maintenance mode and all virtual machines shut down or moved to other 
hosts before it can be applied. The suggested steps for applying the patch as 
posted by one user in the Vmtn forums are:

1) Turn off the ntp client on ESX 3.5 u2 server that you are going to VMotion 
VM’s too
2) Make sure VM’s tools do not have time “checked” Time synchronization between 
the virtual machine and ESX server operation system
3) Change the date on ESX server that you are going to vmotion your VMs to
4) vmotion the VM’s to the ESX server with the date changed
5) Apply the patch to the ESX 3.5 u2 server that the VMs have been moved off of
6_ Vmotion the VM’s back to the patched ESX 3.5 u2 server
7) Patch and change the date back on the other ESX 3.5 u2 server.

Express Patch Download
Special Notice: Please Read

An issue has been uncovered with ESX/ESXi 3.5 Update 2 that causes the product 
license to expire on August 12, 2008.

Follow the steps below to correct this issue:

1. Read the following Knowledge Base articles first:
* Fix of virtual machine power on failure issue, refer to KB 
1006716<http://kb.vmware.com/kb/1006716>
* For VI 3.5, refer to KB 1006721<http://kb.vmware.com/kb/1006721> for 
deployment consideration and instruction
* For VI3.5i, refer to KB 1006670<http://kb.vmware.com/kb/1006670> for 
deployment consideration and instruction
2. Download and apply the express patch according to the product(s) you have:
* VMware ESXi 3.5 Update 2 Express 
Patch<http://www.vmware.com/go/esxiu2patch081208>
* VMware ESX 3.5 Update 2 Express 
Patc

RE: Major Vmware Bug Hits Today, BE advised.

[Greg Mulholland]

We do have VC but i havent got around to installing UM just yet. Only just 
recently gone to 3.5 and this is our first esxi box, all others are 3.5 update 1

The way i did it was to run the Vmware Infrastructure Update program. It found 
the available update and i ran it from there with no hassles.

Read the ESXi setup guide (either installable or embedded depending on which 
one you have) The details of how to use IU is in there

http://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=1006670

Cheers

Greg



From: Joseph L. Casale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2008 10:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Major Vmware Bug Hits Today, BE advised.

Greg what did you do to update it? Do you have a Virt Center license and use UM?
The RCLI command that is supposed to work hasn’t for me?

jlc

From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 4:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Major Vmware Bug Hits Today, BE advised.

I applied the update yesterday on esxi and all is well again

I can understand the timebomb code, most places will do it to stop propagation 
of leaked code but to not remove it when it goes live is a cardinal sin and a 
major balls up on their part in my book.
 How fortunate we were to not have all our hosts up to date yet!

Greg

From: Ziots, Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2008 1:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Major Vmware Bug Hits Today, BE advised.

The funny part this guy was an EX Microsoft Higher Up, and he is already making 
the wrong impression with the Virtual world at Vmware.

And trust me folks, the fix is not pretty, we are applying it now, and its 
quite funky,

Z



VMware has announced the availability of a patch to fix the date bug that was 
reported earlier yesterday. They have also released a 
letter<http://blogs.vmware.com/console/2008/08/letter-from-vmw.html> from their 
CEO, Paul Maritz, explaining the problem and apologizing for it. From VMware 
support:

Dear VMware Customer,

The express patches are now available for download that will resolve the 
ESX/ESXi 3.5 Update 2 issue which causes the product license to expire as of 
August 12, 2008. Please go to http://www.vmware.com/go/esxexpresspatches for 
more information.

Thank You,
The VMware ESX Product Team

The express patch page displays the following information, be sure and 
carefully read through the KB articles that apply to either ESX or ESXi before 
download the new versions. The ESXi patch is about 204MB in size and the ESX 
patch is 104MB. The patches do not require a reboot of the ESX host but it must 
be in maintenance mode and all virtual machines shut down or moved to other 
hosts before it can be applied. The suggested steps for applying the patch as 
posted by one user in the Vmtn forums are:

1) Turn off the ntp client on ESX 3.5 u2 server that you are going to VMotion 
VM’s too
2) Make sure VM’s tools do not have time “checked” Time synchronization between 
the virtual machine and ESX server operation system
3) Change the date on ESX server that you are going to vmotion your VMs to
4) vmotion the VM’s to the ESX server with the date changed
5) Apply the patch to the ESX 3.5 u2 server that the VMs have been moved off of
6_ Vmotion the VM’s back to the patched ESX 3.5 u2 server
7) Patch and change the date back on the other ESX 3.5 u2 server.

Express Patch Download
Special Notice: Please Read

An issue has been uncovered with ESX/ESXi 3.5 Update 2 that causes the product 
license to expire on August 12, 2008.

Follow the steps below to correct this issue:

1. Read the following Knowledge Base articles first:
* Fix of virtual machine power on failure issue, refer to KB 
1006716<http://kb.vmware.com/kb/1006716>
* For VI 3.5, refer to KB 1006721<http://kb.vmware.com/kb/1006721> for 
deployment consideration and instruction
* For VI3.5i, refer to KB 1006670<http://kb.vmware.com/kb/1006670> for 
deployment consideration and instruction
2. Download and apply the express patch according to the product(s) you have:
* VMware ESXi 3.5 Update 2 Express 
Patch<http://www.vmware.com/go/esxiu2patch081208>
* VMware ESX 3.5 Update 2 Express 
Patch<http://www.vmware.com/go/esxu2patch081208>

The full product downloads are still currently unavailable and are expected to 
be re-released as a new build number shortly.

Earlier VMware also released this update that provides some more information on 
the issue and answers to frequently asked questions.

Dear VMware Customers,

Please find the latest update about the product expiration issue. We are 
staging the express patches and expect it to complete in an hour. When the 
staging is done, we will send out a communication with more details.

Please see FAQ 1) for details about these express patches. In FAQ 2), we 
describe what 

RE: Major Vmware Bug Hits Today, BE advised.

[Greg Mulholland]

I applied the update yesterday on esxi and all is well again

I can understand the timebomb code, most places will do it to stop propagation 
of leaked code but to not remove it when it goes live is a cardinal sin and a 
major balls up on their part in my book.
 How fortunate we were to not have all our hosts up to date yet!

Greg

From: Ziots, Edward [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2008 1:48 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Major Vmware Bug Hits Today, BE advised.


The funny part this guy was an EX Microsoft Higher Up, and he is already making 
the wrong impression with the Virtual world at Vmware.

And trust me folks, the fix is not pretty, we are applying it now, and its 
quite funky,

Z



VMware has announced the availability of a patch to fix the date bug that was 
reported earlier yesterday. They have also released a 
letter from their 
CEO, Paul Maritz, explaining the problem and apologizing for it. From VMware 
support:

Dear VMware Customer,

The express patches are now available for download that will resolve the 
ESX/ESXi 3.5 Update 2 issue which causes the product license to expire as of 
August 12, 2008. Please go to http://www.vmware.com/go/esxexpresspatches for 
more information.

Thank You,
The VMware ESX Product Team

The express patch page displays the following information, be sure and 
carefully read through the KB articles that apply to either ESX or ESXi before 
download the new versions. The ESXi patch is about 204MB in size and the ESX 
patch is 104MB. The patches do not require a reboot of the ESX host but it must 
be in maintenance mode and all virtual machines shut down or moved to other 
hosts before it can be applied. The suggested steps for applying the patch as 
posted by one user in the Vmtn forums are:

1) Turn off the ntp client on ESX 3.5 u2 server that you are going to VMotion 
VM’s too
2) Make sure VM’s tools do not have time “checked” Time synchronization between 
the virtual machine and ESX server operation system
3) Change the date on ESX server that you are going to vmotion your VMs to
4) vmotion the VM’s to the ESX server with the date changed
5) Apply the patch to the ESX 3.5 u2 server that the VMs have been moved off of
6_ Vmotion the VM’s back to the patched ESX 3.5 u2 server
7) Patch and change the date back on the other ESX 3.5 u2 server.

Express Patch Download
Special Notice: Please Read

An issue has been uncovered with ESX/ESXi 3.5 Update 2 that causes the product 
license to expire on August 12, 2008.

Follow the steps below to correct this issue:

1. Read the following Knowledge Base articles first:
* Fix of virtual machine power on failure issue, refer to KB 
1006716
* For VI 3.5, refer to KB 1006721 for 
deployment consideration and instruction
* For VI3.5i, refer to KB 1006670 for 
deployment consideration and instruction
2. Download and apply the express patch according to the product(s) you have:
* VMware ESXi 3.5 Update 2 Express 
Patch
* VMware ESX 3.5 Update 2 Express 
Patch

The full product downloads are still currently unavailable and are expected to 
be re-released as a new build number shortly.

Earlier VMware also released this update that provides some more information on 
the issue and answers to frequently asked questions.

Dear VMware Customers,

Please find the latest update about the product expiration issue. We are 
staging the express patches and expect it to complete in an hour. When the 
staging is done, we will send out a communication with more details.

Please see FAQ 1) for details about these express patches. In FAQ 2), we 
describe what upgrade media and update patch bundles to be release later are 
for. These are the updates since our last communication.

Complete information on the ESX/ESXi 3.5 Update 2 issue follows:
*Problem:*
An issue has been discovered by many VMware customers and partners with 
ESX/ESXi 3.5 Update 2 where Virtual Machines fail to power on or VMotion 
successfully. This problem began to occur on August 12, 2008 for customers that 
had upgraded to ESX 3.5 Update 2. The problem is caused by a build timeout that 
was mistakenly left enabled for the release build.
The following message is displayed in the vmware.log file for the virtual 
machine:
This product has expired. Be sure that your host machine’s date and time are 
set correctly.
There is a more recent version available at the VMware web site: 
http://www.vmware.com/info?id=4.
—–
Module License Power on failed.
*Affected Products:*
•- VMware ESX 3.5 Update 2 & ESXi 3.5 Update 2.
* - The problem will be seen ifESX350-200806201-UG is applied to a system.
* - No other VMware products are affected.
*What has been done?*
* - VMware removed the ESX 3.5 Up

RE: ESX Update 2 heads up

[Greg Mulholland]

and you know i will never forget that!! :)


From: Mark Boersma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 12 August 2008 4:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ESX Update 2 heads up

Yeah, funny.
I had been looking but hadn't come across the issue until I got your
email.  Next time you're in Grand Rapids MI I owe you a beer Greg.

Mark
-
Two rules to success in life:
1. Never tell people everything you know.

-Original Message-----
From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 2:45 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ESX Update 2 heads up

rofl!!!


From: Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 12 August 2008 4:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: ESX Update 2 heads up

It seems that VMware's reaction was to pull 3.5 Update 2.

When you go to http://www.vmware.com/download/vi/ it is "temporarily
unavailable".

Greg Mulholland wrote:
> That was my reaction.

--

Phil Brutsche
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

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RE: ESX Update 2 heads up

[Greg Mulholland]

rofl!!!


From: Phil Brutsche [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 12 August 2008 4:26 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: ESX Update 2 heads up

It seems that VMware's reaction was to pull 3.5 Update 2.

When you go to http://www.vmware.com/download/vi/ it is "temporarily
unavailable".

Greg Mulholland wrote:
> That was my reaction.

--

Phil Brutsche
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

RE: ESX Update 2 heads up

[Greg Mulholland]

That was my reaction. Although there were a few expletives that went with it, 
but then i do that anyway :)


From: Mark Boersma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 12 August 2008 3:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ESX Update 2 heads up

Needless to say I’m a bit grumpy about it.

Mark
-
Two rules to success in life:
1. Never tell people everything you know.

From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2008 1:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: ESX Update 2 heads up

Hi Guys

Just a heads up for the ESX admins. I just ran into this one Update 2 (ESX, 
ESXi). We created a new SQL VM this morning and couldn't power it on. We 
shutdown all guests and rebooted the box and still the same behaviour. It sent 
me looking in log files and google and i wound up with a licensing bug which 
stops you powering on any machine once the date has reached 12th august. We had 
to disable ntp and set the date back and all is fine.

Details here
http://lraikhman.blogsite.org/

Hope there is a patch soon, shame that it happened tho. They seem to be ramming 
updates down our throats these days.

Cheers

Greg











~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~ <http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Business/VIPRE-Enterprise/>  ~

ESX Update 2 heads up

[Greg Mulholland]

Hi Guys

Just a heads up for the ESX admins. I just ran into this one Update 2 (ESX, 
ESXi). We created a new SQL VM this morning and couldn't power it on. We 
shutdown all guests and rebooted the box and still the same behaviour. It sent 
me looking in log files and google and i wound up with a licensing bug which 
stops you powering on any machine once the date has reached 12th august. We had 
to disable ntp and set the date back and all is fine.

Details here
http://lraikhman.blogsite.org/

Hope there is a patch soon, shame that it happened tho. They seem to be ramming 
updates down our throats these days.

Cheers

Greg

~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~   ~

RE: VMWare and Exchange

[Greg Mulholland]

Both!


From: Fogarty, Richard R Mr CTR USA USASOC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 10:36 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare and Exchange

Front end, back end?

-Original Message-
From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 8:58 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare and Exchange

Two exchange boxes both virtualised. FC SAN. no issues.

Looking at a upgrading other sites as well in the same frame


From: Fogarty, Richard R Mr CTR USA USASOC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 10:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare and Exchange

I've worked with the VMWare engineer.  His statement was pretty much what I
expected - he stated that the capacity planner usually is pretty much dead
on for most people.  Those numbers indicated no issues that we didn't
expect.  We analyzed the numbers of the IOPs and determined that a Fiber
Channel environment would be better (as space wasn't really an issue for us)
and decided upon that instead of ISCSI.

I think the only issue that I can recall with MS clusters in a vmware
environment was that iSCSI was not supported.  That was one of the other
reasons we went with FC.

Still looking for stress testing our environment to get a more accurate
picture

-Original Message-
From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 7:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VMWare and Exchange

Multiple sites.  Largest site runs 4,000 mailboxes (users + resource)
active/active/passive cluster, Hitachi SAN

The SAN is shared across multiple resources through fiber switches.  A
load in one environment (SQL, FPS, etc) can have a significantly
negative effect elsewhere.  Not virtualized performance is barely
acceptable and our SQL clusters (databases in the hundreds of GB and
TB range) have to really watch disk IO as well.  Mailbox size not
really regulated by fiat.

That's why I have the caveats about your environment being key.
Checking your performance numbers in consideration with the VMware is
crucial.  Your size though should really get you a VMware engineer to
personally chat with.  We're being pushed in this direction as well
but we would be switching back ends.  Until I actually see what that
will be I will remain somewhat cynical.  :)

I remember some reading some issues with running Microsoft clusters in
virtualized environments but cannot find the references and it was a
year or two ago I researched it so it may have changed since then.

Steven

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Fogarty, Richard R Mr CTR USA USASOC
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Care to share the size of your environment?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 5:28 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: VMWare and Exchange
>
> We have a test environment with Exchange clusters and it is very
> sensitive and stops occasionally and is small (100 test users).   I
> doubt our production environment would survive virtualization with the
> number of users we have.
>
> Search for 'VMware Dell Exchange white paper" and you will find the
> white paper with information on Exchange 2003.  VMware itself claims
> to be running all their Exchange servers in a VMware environment (big
> shock I know) and they are more then happy to provide access to
> reps/engineers to talk about it pretty much anytime.
>
> I myself am not comfortable with the concept of running an Exchange
> mailbox server on VMware due to disk i/o concerns in my environment
> but yours may be different.  Things I have heard about Exchange 2007
> will cause me to research that as a separate issue because the IO load
> is supposed to have been significantly reduced so the impact will
> probably be less.
>
> Any MS support concerns are a separate issue and for the most part can
> be dealt with if you are of sufficiently sized support contract.
>
> Virtualization depends on your environment.  There are to many test
> environments alone out there proving it will work, it depends on will
> it work in your environments supporting your users and their
> expectations.
>
> Steven Peck
>
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Fogarty Richard MR - CONTR - Team
> EITC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Has anyone virtualized their whole Exchange environment?  Any issues?
>>
>> Has anyone had issue particularly with a backend box being virtualized?
>> What about if it is clustered with MS Clustering services.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick Fogarty
>> Team EITC, Senior Systems Engineer
>> Planning & Systems Engineering Coordinator
>> US Army Special Operations Command

RE: Vmware ESXi question

[Greg Mulholland]

Foundation shouldn't be that much. I think you are thinking of Standard. The 
only benefit Std over Fnd is HA which we aren't doing on our non-prod 
environment.

We do however want to manage it with VC as we do with all our hosts, hence we 
need to pay for that.


From: Sam Cayze [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 4:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vmware ESXi question

Yeah, ESXi should be about $70 usd with Dell on the 2950's.  But the foundation 
virtual center licseanse, which you will want, is about 3K.  You don't 'have' 
to have it, but managing a virtual infrasture, even with one ESX box, is much 
nicer with Virtual Center.

____
From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:47 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vmware ESXi question

OK i think i see what's going on here.

ESXi in both flavour (installable or embedded is indeed free) the issue we had 
was to be able to manage it with Virtual Center which is our choice requires a 
Virtual Center Agent. ESXi doesnt not come licensed with a VC Agent. Hence you 
still need to buy either Foundation $995, Standard $2995, Enterprise $5750 
software. We were being quoted for the Standard license on top which is where 
the extra 3k came from on the quote. The standard license is what we have been 
buying of later, so i guess he figured that would be ok this time.

So i think it is going to be at least a foundation license for this one just so 
we can use it with Virtual Center.

You know i have to hand it to these Vmware guys. Every feature from the ground 
up requires a different license and additional software to work with the other. 
The prime example being you can buy an Enterprise license but to drive any of 
it you need to cough up for Virtual Center! :)

ahh well.

Greg


____
From: Greg Mulholland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 1:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vmware ESXi question

So the installable version is free, but the embedded isn't? i am getting this 
right ?


From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 12:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vmware ESXi question

No. You did. :)


From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 7:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vmware ESXi question

The installable version is free right now.  OP is asking about the embedded 
version.   Are you suggesting that Dell, HP, IBM, etc. will stop charging for 
the embedded version?


From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vmware ESXi question

ESXi will be free in a few weeks so anything more than $0 is too much.

From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 7:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vmware ESXi question

Sorry no

server is 11k and esxi is 3k on its own if we go the embedded option.

I am not willing to pay 3k when i can download it for fre!!


From: Joseph L. Casale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vmware ESXi question
Wow, 3k for the server *and* esxi I hope? Who cares about it being embedded? My 
esxi runs on two small 36 gig sas mirrored drives, and the rest of the space 
holds iso’s :)
jlc

From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 6:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Vmware ESXi question

Hi all

Got a quick question for the ESX folk among us. We are looking at adding some 
more no -prod vm hosts and i am in the process of quoting for Dell 2950's  and 
have been to-ing and fro-ing about ESXi installable or embedded.

Our Dell rep is quoting us 3k AUS for the ESXi embedded portion. Does that 
sound right, did they only make the installable version free? It seems to me 
like he hasn't caught with the news!!

I would like to go for the embedded version however i am not convinced it is 
worth it for 3k a pop!! anyone have anymore info or able to do a quick check 
with their Dell or HP rep?

Cheers

Greg






























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RE: Vmware ESXi question

[Greg Mulholland]

OK i think i see what's going on here.

ESXi in both flavour (installable or embedded is indeed free) the issue we had 
was to be able to manage it with Virtual Center which is our choice requires a 
Virtual Center Agent. ESXi doesnt not come licensed with a VC Agent. Hence you 
still need to buy either Foundation $995, Standard $2995, Enterprise $5750 
software. We were being quoted for the Standard license on top which is where 
the extra 3k came from on the quote. The standard license is what we have been 
buying of later, so i guess he figured that would be ok this time.

So i think it is going to be at least a foundation license for this one just so 
we can use it with Virtual Center.

You know i have to hand it to these Vmware guys. Every feature from the ground 
up requires a different license and additional software to work with the other. 
The prime example being you can buy an Enterprise license but to drive any of 
it you need to cough up for Virtual Center! :)

ahh well.

Greg



From: Greg Mulholland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 1:48 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vmware ESXi question

So the installable version is free, but the embedded isn't? i am getting this 
right ?


From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 12:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vmware ESXi question

No. You did. :)


From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 7:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vmware ESXi question

The installable version is free right now.  OP is asking about the embedded 
version.   Are you suggesting that Dell, HP, IBM, etc. will stop charging for 
the embedded version?


From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vmware ESXi question

ESXi will be free in a few weeks so anything more than $0 is too much.

From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 7:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vmware ESXi question

Sorry no

server is 11k and esxi is 3k on its own if we go the embedded option.

I am not willing to pay 3k when i can download it for fre!!


From: Joseph L. Casale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vmware ESXi question
Wow, 3k for the server *and* esxi I hope? Who cares about it being embedded? My 
esxi runs on two small 36 gig sas mirrored drives, and the rest of the space 
holds iso’s :)
jlc

From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 6:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Vmware ESXi question

Hi all

Got a quick question for the ESX folk among us. We are looking at adding some 
more no -prod vm hosts and i am in the process of quoting for Dell 2950's  and 
have been to-ing and fro-ing about ESXi installable or embedded.

Our Dell rep is quoting us 3k AUS for the ESXi embedded portion. Does that 
sound right, did they only make the installable version free? It seems to me 
like he hasn't caught with the news!!

I would like to go for the embedded version however i am not convinced it is 
worth it for 3k a pop!! anyone have anymore info or able to do a quick check 
with their Dell or HP rep?

Cheers

Greg






























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RE: Vmware ESXi question

[Greg Mulholland]

So the installable version is free, but the embedded isn't? i am getting this 
right ?


From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 12:52 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vmware ESXi question

No. You did. :)


From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 7:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vmware ESXi question

The installable version is free right now.  OP is asking about the embedded 
version.   Are you suggesting that Dell, HP, IBM, etc. will stop charging for 
the embedded version?


From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 10:14 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vmware ESXi question

ESXi will be free in a few weeks so anything more than $0 is too much.

From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 7:07 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vmware ESXi question

Sorry no

server is 11k and esxi is 3k on its own if we go the embedded option.

I am not willing to pay 3k when i can download it for fre!!


From: Joseph L. Casale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vmware ESXi question
Wow, 3k for the server *and* esxi I hope? Who cares about it being embedded? My 
esxi runs on two small 36 gig sas mirrored drives, and the rest of the space 
holds iso’s :)
jlc

From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 6:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Vmware ESXi question

Hi all

Got a quick question for the ESX folk among us. We are looking at adding some 
more no -prod vm hosts and i am in the process of quoting for Dell 2950's  and 
have been to-ing and fro-ing about ESXi installable or embedded.

Our Dell rep is quoting us 3k AUS for the ESXi embedded portion. Does that 
sound right, did they only make the installable version free? It seems to me 
like he hasn't caught with the news!!

I would like to go for the embedded version however i am not convinced it is 
worth it for 3k a pop!! anyone have anymore info or able to do a quick check 
with their Dell or HP rep?

Cheers

Greg


























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RE: Vmware ESXi question

[Greg Mulholland]

Sorry no

server is 11k and esxi is 3k on its own if we go the embedded option.

I am not willing to pay 3k when i can download it for fre!!


From: Joseph L. Casale [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 11:22 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Vmware ESXi question

Wow, 3k for the server *and* esxi I hope? Who cares about it being embedded? My 
esxi runs on two small 36 gig sas mirrored drives, and the rest of the space 
holds iso’s :)
jlc

From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 6:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Vmware ESXi question

Hi all

Got a quick question for the ESX folk among us. We are looking at adding some 
more no -prod vm hosts and i am in the process of quoting for Dell 2950's  and 
have been to-ing and fro-ing about ESXi installable or embedded.

Our Dell rep is quoting us 3k AUS for the ESXi embedded portion. Does that 
sound right, did they only make the installable version free? It seems to me 
like he hasn't caught with the news!!

I would like to go for the embedded version however i am not convinced it is 
worth it for 3k a pop!! anyone have anymore info or able to do a quick check 
with their Dell or HP rep?

Cheers

Greg










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RE: VMWare and Exchange

[Greg Mulholland]

Two exchange boxes both virtualised. FC SAN. no issues.

Looking at a upgrading other sites as well in the same frame


From: Fogarty, Richard R Mr CTR USA USASOC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 1 August 2008 10:38 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare and Exchange

I've worked with the VMWare engineer.  His statement was pretty much what I
expected - he stated that the capacity planner usually is pretty much dead
on for most people.  Those numbers indicated no issues that we didn't
expect.  We analyzed the numbers of the IOPs and determined that a Fiber
Channel environment would be better (as space wasn't really an issue for us)
and decided upon that instead of ISCSI.

I think the only issue that I can recall with MS clusters in a vmware
environment was that iSCSI was not supported.  That was one of the other
reasons we went with FC.

Still looking for stress testing our environment to get a more accurate
picture

-Original Message-
From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 7:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VMWare and Exchange

Multiple sites.  Largest site runs 4,000 mailboxes (users + resource)
active/active/passive cluster, Hitachi SAN

The SAN is shared across multiple resources through fiber switches.  A
load in one environment (SQL, FPS, etc) can have a significantly
negative effect elsewhere.  Not virtualized performance is barely
acceptable and our SQL clusters (databases in the hundreds of GB and
TB range) have to really watch disk IO as well.  Mailbox size not
really regulated by fiat.

That's why I have the caveats about your environment being key.
Checking your performance numbers in consideration with the VMware is
crucial.  Your size though should really get you a VMware engineer to
personally chat with.  We're being pushed in this direction as well
but we would be switching back ends.  Until I actually see what that
will be I will remain somewhat cynical.  :)

I remember some reading some issues with running Microsoft clusters in
virtualized environments but cannot find the references and it was a
year or two ago I researched it so it may have changed since then.

Steven

On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Fogarty, Richard R Mr CTR USA USASOC
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Care to share the size of your environment?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Steven Peck [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 5:28 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: VMWare and Exchange
>
> We have a test environment with Exchange clusters and it is very
> sensitive and stops occasionally and is small (100 test users).   I
> doubt our production environment would survive virtualization with the
> number of users we have.
>
> Search for 'VMware Dell Exchange white paper" and you will find the
> white paper with information on Exchange 2003.  VMware itself claims
> to be running all their Exchange servers in a VMware environment (big
> shock I know) and they are more then happy to provide access to
> reps/engineers to talk about it pretty much anytime.
>
> I myself am not comfortable with the concept of running an Exchange
> mailbox server on VMware due to disk i/o concerns in my environment
> but yours may be different.  Things I have heard about Exchange 2007
> will cause me to research that as a separate issue because the IO load
> is supposed to have been significantly reduced so the impact will
> probably be less.
>
> Any MS support concerns are a separate issue and for the most part can
> be dealt with if you are of sufficiently sized support contract.
>
> Virtualization depends on your environment.  There are to many test
> environments alone out there proving it will work, it depends on will
> it work in your environments supporting your users and their
> expectations.
>
> Steven Peck
>
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:15 PM, Fogarty Richard MR - CONTR - Team
> EITC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Has anyone virtualized their whole Exchange environment?  Any issues?
>>
>> Has anyone had issue particularly with a backend box being virtualized?
>> What about if it is clustered with MS Clustering services.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick Fogarty
>> Team EITC, Senior Systems Engineer
>> Planning & Systems Engineering Coordinator
>> US Army Special Operations Command
>> (910) 396-0501
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>
>>
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Vmware ESXi question

[Greg Mulholland]

Hi all

Got a quick question for the ESX folk among us. We are looking at adding some 
more no -prod vm hosts and i am in the process of quoting for Dell 2950's  and 
have been to-ing and fro-ing about ESXi installable or embedded.

Our Dell rep is quoting us 3k AUS for the ESXi embedded portion. Does that 
sound right, did they only make the installable version free? It seems to me 
like he hasn't caught with the news!!

I would like to go for the embedded version however i am not convinced it is 
worth it for 3k a pop!! anyone have anymore info or able to do a quick check 
with their Dell or HP rep?

Cheers

Greg

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RE: San Recommendations

[Greg Mulholland]

No we didn't really have a choice. HP was the only option due to special 
circumstances!!


From: Sean Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 11 July 2008 9:20 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: San Recommendations

Greg,

Just curious, did you look at the NS Series from EMC for your iSCSI needs?

- Sean


On 7/10/08, Greg Mulholland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
We actually decided on a HP MSA 2000i. simply for our ISCSI setup. Looking at 
20tb initially and adding another shelve later down the track, if we even need 
it.

We will deal with our FC setup when our cx300 runs out of warranty..

anyone have any experience with the 2000i?

Greg

____
From: Greg Mulholland [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
Sent: Thursday, 10 July 2008 12:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: San Recommendations

Thanks Martin

I am waiting confirmation from Dell that we can use our existing shelves and 
disks but i think that is true as we have been told it is a more cost effective 
solution as far as being able to upgrade.. Obviously this leaves HP out of the 
question.

FC is working well for us and whilst i do love the idea of cheap sata disks for 
our non prod and low end storage requirements i am not sure that SATA will 
provide the iops, throughput maybe, to sustain our database servers and mail 
servers.

Thanks for your info.

Greg


From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
Sent: Thursday, 10 July 2008 12:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: San Recommendations

Greg, will the new SAN allow you to reuse your existing shelves or disks?
I'm not sure if you were alluding to that or not, but obviously if you can,
that would be a huge advantage.
Also, FC rocks, but don't think that ISCSI can't handle your enterprise
applications. Especially with 10GB Ethernet out there.
SATA is also starting to gain a foothold there as well. I'm still not 100%
sold on the later, but its moving up. It also makes for great archival
storage.



-Original Message-
From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: San Recommendations

Guys

We are in the process of updating our aging and nearly out of warranty Dell
CX300 SAN. We were looking at the CX3-20 as we currently use FC disks. The
CX3-20 would allow us to use FC and Sata with ISCI shelves. The SATA/ISCSI
will be handy for our non production and non critical requirements. We have
now started to look at HP because they are trying to appease us and i would
like to know if anyone has any recommendations on HP san models. This office
has about 250-300 users with a pro/non prod requirement for potentially
100tb or near of space.

We would also like to preferably keep our FC available for the exchange, sql
and oracle use that is our core business. Fwiw the majority of our servers
are broken into vmware ESX hosts (prod and non prod)

Be interested to hear anyone's thoughts.

Greg

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RE: San Recommendations

[Greg Mulholland]

We actually decided on a HP MSA 2000i. simply for our ISCSI setup. Looking at 
20tb initially and adding another shelve later down the track, if we even need 
it.

We will deal with our FC setup when our cx300 runs out of warranty..

anyone have any experience with the 2000i?

Greg


From: Greg Mulholland [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 10 July 2008 12:34 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: San Recommendations

Thanks Martin

I am waiting confirmation from Dell that we can use our existing shelves and 
disks but i think that is true as we have been told it is a more cost effective 
solution as far as being able to upgrade.. Obviously this leaves HP out of the 
question.

FC is working well for us and whilst i do love the idea of cheap sata disks for 
our non prod and low end storage requirements i am not sure that SATA will 
provide the iops, throughput maybe, to sustain our database servers and mail 
servers.

Thanks for your info.

Greg


From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 10 July 2008 12:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: San Recommendations

Greg, will the new SAN allow you to reuse your existing shelves or disks?
I'm not sure if you were alluding to that or not, but obviously if you can,
that would be a huge advantage.
Also, FC rocks, but don't think that ISCSI can't handle your enterprise
applications. Especially with 10GB Ethernet out there.
SATA is also starting to gain a foothold there as well. I'm still not 100%
sold on the later, but its moving up. It also makes for great archival
storage.



-Original Message-
From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: San Recommendations

Guys

We are in the process of updating our aging and nearly out of warranty Dell
CX300 SAN. We were looking at the CX3-20 as we currently use FC disks. The
CX3-20 would allow us to use FC and Sata with ISCI shelves. The SATA/ISCSI
will be handy for our non production and non critical requirements. We have
now started to look at HP because they are trying to appease us and i would
like to know if anyone has any recommendations on HP san models. This office
has about 250-300 users with a pro/non prod requirement for potentially
100tb or near of space.

We would also like to preferably keep our FC available for the exchange, sql
and oracle use that is our core business. Fwiw the majority of our servers
are broken into vmware ESX hosts (prod and non prod)

Be interested to hear anyone's thoughts.

Greg

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RE: San Recommendations

[Greg Mulholland]

Thanks Martin

I am waiting confirmation from Dell that we can use our existing shelves and 
disks but i think that is true as we have been told it is a more cost effective 
solution as far as being able to upgrade.. Obviously this leaves HP out of the 
question.

FC is working well for us and whilst i do love the idea of cheap sata disks for 
our non prod and low end storage requirements i am not sure that SATA will 
provide the iops, throughput maybe, to sustain our database servers and mail 
servers.

Thanks for your info.

Greg


From: Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 10 July 2008 12:32 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: San Recommendations

Greg, will the new SAN allow you to reuse your existing shelves or disks?
I'm not sure if you were alluding to that or not, but obviously if you can,
that would be a huge advantage.
Also, FC rocks, but don't think that ISCSI can't handle your enterprise
applications. Especially with 10GB Ethernet out there.
SATA is also starting to gain a foothold there as well. I'm still not 100%
sold on the later, but its moving up. It also makes for great archival
storage.



-Original Message-
From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 7:17 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: San Recommendations

Guys

We are in the process of updating our aging and nearly out of warranty Dell
CX300 SAN. We were looking at the CX3-20 as we currently use FC disks. The
CX3-20 would allow us to use FC and Sata with ISCI shelves. The SATA/ISCSI
will be handy for our non production and non critical requirements. We have
now started to look at HP because they are trying to appease us and i would
like to know if anyone has any recommendations on HP san models. This office
has about 250-300 users with a pro/non prod requirement for potentially
100tb or near of space.

We would also like to preferably keep our FC available for the exchange, sql
and oracle use that is our core business. Fwiw the majority of our servers
are broken into vmware ESX hosts (prod and non prod)

Be interested to hear anyone's thoughts.

Greg

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San Recommendations

[Greg Mulholland]

Guys

We are in the process of updating our aging and nearly out of warranty Dell 
CX300 SAN. We were looking at the CX3-20 as we currently use FC disks. The 
CX3-20 would allow us to use FC and Sata with ISCI shelves. The SATA/ISCSI will 
be handy for our non production and non critical requirements. We have now 
started to look at HP because they are trying to appease us and i would like to 
know if anyone has any recommendations on HP san models. This office has about 
250-300 users with a pro/non prod requirement for potentially 100tb or near of 
space.

We would also like to preferably keep our FC available for the exchange, sql 
and oracle use that is our core business. Fwiw the majority of our servers are 
broken into vmware ESX hosts (prod and non prod)

Be interested to hear anyone's thoughts.

Greg

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RE: Hyper V and VMWare Comparison

[Greg Mulholland]

Besides.. esx is $1000 for the foundation version. I'd spend the extra $100!


-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 5:56 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hyper V and VMWare Comparison

Only 50 active guests, and max 128GB host RAM supported. We haven't benchmarked 
disk I/O performance with Xen, but I've heard it's not great.

Cheers
Ken

> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Burkett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 5:41 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Hyper V and VMWare Comparison
>
> Might also want to take a look at Citrix XenServer. Citrix licensed the
> opensource Xen hypervisor, and have released as a commercial product with
> proper management console, virtual machine moving (ala vMotion) and so on.
> Aggressively priced at around $900 per server, they're trying to push in on
> the other two, placing themselves in between the other two in terms of
> features:
>
> http://www.citrix.com/English/ps2/products/product.asp?contentID=683148
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 01 July 2008 07:03
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: Hyper V and VMWare Comparison
>
> Hi Ken,
> We just want to compared what can each VM solution do and what they cannot do.
> Basically it is like a feature to feature comparison.
> MS and VMWare will have their own marketing team to bash the other party up
> and we would like to have a more independent and fair comparison.
> Thanks.
> Best Regards,
> WY
>
>
> - Original Message 
> From: Ken Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: NT System Admin Issues 
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 12:32:58
> Subject: RE: Hyper V and VMWare Comparison
>
> I have a fairly detailed comparison, but it's our internal IP. Do you have
> specific areas that you want compared?
>
> Cheers
> Ken
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 8:32 AM
> > To: NT System Admin Issues
> > Subject: Hyper V and VMWare Comparison
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > With Hyper V now officially shipping from MS. Does anyone know of any
> website
> > that does a detailed comparison between Hyper V and VMWare ESX?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> >
> > Wei Yu
>
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RE: Hyper V and VMWare Comparison

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http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&q=compare+hyperv+to+esx&btnG=Search&meta=



From: Active Elk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 4:03 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hyper V and VMWare Comparison

Hi Ken,
We just want to compared what can each VM solution do and what they cannot do. 
Basically it is like a feature to feature comparison.
MS and VMWare will have their own marketing team to bash the other party up and 
we would like to have a more independent and fair comparison.
Thanks.
Best Regards,
WY


- Original Message 
From: Ken Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: NT System Admin Issues 
Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 12:32:58
Subject: RE: Hyper V and VMWare Comparison

I have a fairly detailed comparison, but it's our internal IP. Do you have 
specific areas that you want compared?

Cheers
Ken

> -Original Message-
> From: Active Elk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 8:32 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Hyper V and VMWare Comparison
>
> Hi,
>
> With Hyper V now officially shipping from MS. Does anyone know of any website
> that does a detailed comparison between Hyper V and VMWare ESX?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Wei Yu


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RE: VMWare / Virtualization

[Greg Mulholland]

I'd agree with most here

There may be some special cases that do not warrant virtualisation as people 
have mentioned, fortunately our network has a limited amount of them.

We have successfully virtualised multiples of Exchange 2k7, SQL, all dc's, and 
a host of other stuff. 40 or so in total.

Our hosts are 2x quad cores with 16gb ram at present. There has been no need to 
upgrade memory at this point but we keep a fair bit of head room for host 
failover.

I love the DR scenarios it allows me with consummate ease and also the 
provisioning of new servers takes bugger all time now. Unfortunately we are 
limited to our real failover without vmotion as yet but you cant win them all.

Greg

From: Fogarty, Richard R Mr CTR USA USASOC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, 25 June 2008 10:12 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: VMWare / Virtualization

Excellent points.  I had forgotten about our RAS box and I didn't know about
the Oracle issue - I'll have to dig into that one.  E2k7 - that shouldn't be
an issue as we have an Enterprise agreement and moving it to a physical box
for support shouldn't be an issue.

-Original Message-
From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 5:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: VMWare / Virtualization

Anything that requires specialized ISA/PCI/PCI-X/PCI-E hardware - fax
cards, crypto cards, etc - absolutely cannot be virtualized.

Anything that's timing sensitive - VoIP, software that needs to
communicate over serial or parallel - might or might not work. VoIP in
particular is discouraged for production but is passable for testing
purposes.

Anything else is fair game, but be aware that not all applications are
supported in a virtualized environment. E2k7 is one of them (but I'm
sure Hyper-V will be officially supported - gee, imagine that), Oracle
is another. That's not to say it won't work, it's just that if:
a) they find out it's virtualized
b) trace a problem you're having to the fact that it's virtualized
the support people will say "we can't help you".

Fogarty Richard MR - CONTR - Team EITC wrote:
> When virtualizing a datacenter is there a stand fast rule on what one
> can/cannot virtualize?

--

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RE: 10 most annoying programs on the Internet

[Greg Mulholland]

They will in hindsight!! :)

-Original Message-
From: Chris Blair [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 3 June 2008 4:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 10 most annoying programs on the Internet

Oh boy! We are "Migrating" to Notes next month from Exchange 2003. I
prefer to call it a downgrade, but management doesn't see the humor in
that statement.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2008 1:16 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: 10 most annoying programs on the Internet

On Sun, Jun 1, 2008 at 6:09 PM, Greg Mulholland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Yeah i 'wowed' at that too.. life would be worth living without
Outlook.

  As a stand-alone email client, Outlook has some issues, some of
which can be quite maddening.

  But as Mr. Schaefer points out, Outlook is far from the worst
offender.  Notes has held a top spot in the Bad User Interface
Hall-Of-Shame for at least a decade now, and it never seems to get any
better.  Only different.

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RE: 10 most annoying programs on the Internet

[Greg Mulholland]

Yeah i 'wowed' at that too.. life would be worth living without Outlook. Ok i 
exaggerate a bit!

-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, 1 June 2008 9:05 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: 10 most annoying programs on the Internet

Obviously that guy has never used Notes for mail, otherwise Outlook wouldn't be 
there!

Cheers
Ken

> -Original Message-
> From: Sam Cayze [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, 31 May 2008 5:41 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: 10 most annoying programs on the Internet
>
> Add to the list any site that makes you click 'Next' ten times to read
> a
> damn article.
>
> I'd have to agree with all of them except Outlook/Exchange.  Wow, can't
> believe that was on the list.
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 2:32 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: OT: 10 most annoying programs on the Internet
>
> I'm sure there are many more that could make the list:
>
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/64ynuo


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RE: ASA VPN device

[Greg Mulholland]

You know you are :p

-Original Message-
From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 29 May 2008 2:40 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ASA VPN device

Actually, if you upgrade to Windows Server 2008 you don't have to be
hobbled by open source code. MS fully backs its SSTP solution which
performs better and is arguably more secure than OpenVPN.

And, since SSTP isn't supported by ISA, you can't claim that I'm an ISA
ho'

:)

HTH,
Tom

-Original Message-
From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 4:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ASA VPN device

Its not part of the GUI, but a quick search of the dd-wrt wiki provides:

http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/VPNC



-Original Message-
From: Andy Ognenoff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 2:24 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ASA VPN device

Well there we go...so the cheap solution isn't viable, right?

 - Andy O.

>-Original Message-
>From: Phil Brutsche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 4:21 PM
>To: NT System Admin Issues
>Subject: Re: ASA VPN device
>
>Absolutely not.
>
>An OpenVPN client needs to talk to an OpenVPN server, and the only
>OpenVPN server implementation is native to Linux/*BSD, with a Windows
>port available.


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RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1

[Greg Mulholland]

Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder. What's good for the goose is not good 
for the gander and such...

We use it, we love it, do you run your workstations on a 'cut down' linux 
kernel as well?

G

-Original Message-
From: Clayton Doige [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 27 May 2008 5:35 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1

I am not sure if ISA is the firewall of choice for a pure Microsoft
environment Tom. There are plenty of other boxes I would trust more, maybe I
am being old skool and need edukatin, but it's still a software firewall.
Don't get me wrong, I use the product, but that's to secure things like
Windows Mobile etc, and even then I plop in the DMZ behind another hardware
box.

-Original Message-
From: Thomas W Shinder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 May 2008 20:22
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1

I don't think that's fair.

If you have an all UNIX or Linx environment, there are plenty of good
firewalls out there.

ISA is the firewall of choice only when you're running mostly Windows
clients and servers. If you're running mostly *IX clients and servers,
you might be happy with another firewall.

HTH,
Tom

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 10:50 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: ISA Server 2006 SP1

If it's not ISA, it's crap!


-Original Message-
From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 8:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: FW: ISA Server 2006 SP1

>From another list

http://blogs.technet.com/isablog/archive/2008/05/23/isa-server-2006-serv
ice-
pack-1-features.aspx




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FW: ISA Server 2006 SP1

[Greg Mulholland]

>From another list

http://blogs.technet.com/isablog/archive/2008/05/23/isa-server-2006-service-pack-1-features.aspx




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RE: Terminal Server Cals issue

[Greg Mulholland]

Funny thing is our citrix server is win2k but our licensing server is 2k3. So 
they should be able to access the right permanent cal then i would have thought.

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 23 May 2008 6:56 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Terminal Server Cals issue

On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 4:56 AM, Jon Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am not a TS person but can you even use Windows 2000 licenses on a Windows
> 2003 server?

  Nope.  CALs are good for older versions of Server, but not newer
versions.  For example, a 2003 TSCAL can be used to gain access to a
2000 Server, but not a 2008 Server.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2008/en/us/licensing-faq.aspx

-- Ben

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RE: Terminal Server Cals issue

[Greg Mulholland]

Well that's my thinking now.. originally we had a 2k licensing server and had 
enterprise agreement cals. We upgraded the licensing server (rebuilt-new box) 
to win2k3. This article (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/837211/)  seems to 
suggest that there is an issue there however it's a pre sp1 hotfix and we are 
at sp2.

>From the way that I figure if anyone with an existing license is fine but new 
>connections would get a win2k3 temp license and not a 2k license. So what we 
>would need to do it install 2k3 cals as part of our ent agreement. Trying to 
>find some lit to support this theory though.

From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 22 May 2008 6:57 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Terminal Server Cals issue

I am not a TS person but can you even use Windows 2000 licenses on a Windows 
2003 server?

Jon
On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 1:56 AM, Greg Mulholland <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
We have a win2k3 r2 TS Server/licensing server. If I look at that, all I see is 
that it has issued temp licenses and not used any of the 100 device cals. 
Consequently we have a user who is reporting that he gets a "your temp license 
will expire in 4 days".

As far as I can gather this is correct as from my understating the first 
connection gets a grace period cal for 90 days. This would seem right cos his 
temp license has 4 days until the expiration and has been valid form 3 months 
ago (minus 4 days).

The things that's getting me is that we have 34 temp licenses been issued and 
none of Windows 2000 Server - TS Per Device CAL of which we have 100 provided 
by our ent agreement Volume license are in use or being issued.


The following article (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=822134)  is 
interesting but im yet to make much sense of it or confirm what is happening. 
Very interestingly if I go into TS configuration\Server Settings \ Licensing 
mode it is set for Remote Desktop fro Administration which to me doesn't seem 
right, I would have thought it should say either per device or per user.

One more thing I would through into the mix is that our previous license server 
was win2k, however this is a new box.

Lastly if I start an app via nfuse/citrix and then go and check the licensing 
server there seems to be no license issued to me.

I'm not much on TS and Citrix yet so any pointers would be appreciated.

Thanks

G

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Terminal Server Cals issue

[Greg Mulholland]

We have a win2k3 r2 TS Server/licensing server. If I look at that, all I see is 
that it has issued temp licenses and not used any of the 100 device cals. 
Consequently we have a user who is reporting that he gets a "your temp license 
will expire in 4 days".

As far as I can gather this is correct as from my understating the first 
connection gets a grace period cal for 90 days. This would seem right cos his 
temp license has 4 days until the expiration and has been valid form 3 months 
ago (minus 4 days).

The things that's getting me is that we have 34 temp licenses been issued and 
none of Windows 2000 Server - TS Per Device CAL of which we have 100 provided 
by our ent agreement Volume license are in use or being issued.


The following article (http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=822134)  is 
interesting but im yet to make much sense of it or confirm what is happening. 
Very interestingly if I go into TS configuration\Server Settings \ Licensing 
mode it is set for Remote Desktop fro Administration which to me doesn't seem 
right, I would have thought it should say either per device or per user.

One more thing I would through into the mix is that our previous license server 
was win2k, however this is a new box.

Lastly if I start an app via nfuse/citrix and then go and check the licensing 
server there seems to be no license issued to me.

I'm not much on TS and Citrix yet so any pointers would be appreciated.

Thanks

G

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RE: First look at 2008

[Greg Mulholland]

If you are looking at windows server 2008 in any case then I'd look at the new 
TS features like remote app.

Greg

From: Gavin Wilby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, 11 May 2008 2:37 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: First look at 2008

OK,

I have a site in Ireland that have ti access 3 apps from a server on the Isle 
of Man, they currently do this via a TS2003 server, but they get the entire 
desktop to use - its confusing for them and irritating to support.

I want to simply deliver these 3 apps to the users desktop - what to use 2008 
TS or Citrix?
On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 2:17 AM, Webster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





From: Gavin Wilby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Subject: Re: First look at 2008



For me the killer in 2008 is the application delivery  over TS Web.



Easy to configure and works really well.



Who needs Citrix anyhow?

Those of us who don't want the limitations of TS 2008.

http://www.citrix.com/site/resources/dynamic/salesdocs/Citrix_PresentationServer45_TerminalServices2003_2008FeatureAnalysis.pdf

BTW, that document is a collaboration between the Citrix and MS Terminal 
Service teams so it is just not Citrix marketing hype.

Webster



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RE: Changing the logon screen saver

[Greg Mulholland]

What he said... I'd use reg2adm


-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 10 May 2008 7:36 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Changing the logon screen saver

You will likely need to create a custom .adm file to import your
registry changes into Group Policy.  REG2ADM.EXE will help you do
this.

File deployments of .scr files, etc, will need to be done with custom
.msi packages or perhaps computer startup scripts.

Actually, it may be easier to just deploy everything via a custom. msi
package in one shot.



On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Bill Lambert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks, Greg.  I'm trying to change the login screen saver (as opposed to
> the regular one that comes up after users are logged in) to a custom one.
>   I had seen that KB and actually used it to configure one PC as a test
> which worked fine.  Now I would like to deploy those setting throughout the
> domain via GP and I've been unable to figure out how to do that.
>
>
>
> Bill Lambert
>
> Concuity
>
> 847-941-9206
>
>
>
> From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 4:13 PM
>
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Changing the logon screen saver
>
>
>
> Background screen or screensaver?
>
>
>
> Cant remember the background screen key off the top of my head but you can
> do it.. as for screensaver try this http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314493
>
>
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> From: Bill Lambert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Saturday, 10 May 2008 6:54 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Changing the logon screen saver
>
>
>
> Hello all...
>
>
>
> I have a custom screen saver deployed by Group Policy that works fine when
> users are logged in.  Is there a way using group policy to change to the
> custom screen saver when users are logged out?
>
>
>
> The environment is W3K3 AD, XP clients.
>
>
>
> Thanks for any help/advice.
>
>
>
>
>
> Bill Lambert
>
> Windows System Administrator
>
> Concuity
>
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RE: Changing the logon screen saver

[Greg Mulholland]

Background screen or screensaver?

Cant remember the background screen key off the top of my head but you can do 
it.. as for screensaver try this http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314493

Greg

From: Bill Lambert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 10 May 2008 6:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Changing the logon screen saver

Hello all...

I have a custom screen saver deployed by Group Policy that works fine when 
users are logged in.  Is there a way using group policy to change to the custom 
screen saver when users are logged out?

The environment is W3K3 AD, XP clients.

Thanks for any help/advice.


Bill Lambert
Windows System Administrator
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Vista Ent Virtual Licensing

[Greg Mulholland]

Does anybody know what the deal is with the vista licensing.

We have allot of QA and Dev guys who we are looking at upgrading to Vista Ent 
as part of our Enterprise Agreement. These guys all use a number of VM's on 
their machine for testing purposes. I understand that we are allowed to run up 
to 4 vista vm's on each of their desktops as part of this however there is one 
major flaw. After testing the activation of one of these vm's it does in fact 
decrement our licence counter. Meaning that once we have activated the number 
of licenses we have available to us then bam.. no more licenses. Also im trying 
to work out how this structure works with the portability of the vm's.

Anyone have any dealings with this I'd be interested to hear or any more up to 
date information.

Cheers

Greg

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RE: Trusted Intranet Sites

[Greg Mulholland]

You can. As ken suggested predefine all the security zone settings for IE in 
gpo.

-Original Message-
From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, 6 May 2008 10:34 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Trusted Intranet Sites

You can do this with the Microsoft supplied GPOs (use the Site To Zone 
assignment option)

Do not edit the Default Domain Policy - create a new Domain policy for your 
business, and put all your domain-wide policies in there. Why? Then you know 
exactly what came "in the box" from Microsoft and what you've changed 
subsequently. It will help with maintenance and troubleshooting.

I would always use a GPO over a batch file/logon script *if* they do the same 
thing. It's really easy to model the net effect of GPOs on users and computers 
using  RSOP/GPMC. It's virtually impossible to model the effect of batch 
scripts unless you have a unit test harness...

Cheers
Ken


> -Original Message-
> From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, 6 May 2008 4:52 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Trusted Intranet Sites
>
> You could use an adm if you wanted to, it all depends on how you want
> to run things.  I went the lazy route and just added a bat file into
> the user login script in a GP (under User Config - Admin Templates -
> System - Logon - Run these programs at user logon).
>
> It checks a couple settings and then applies a couple registry settings
> so stuff matches. Things like registry adds to HKCU are super fast and
> the user doesn't even notice.
>
> -tm
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Phil Hershey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 11:37 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Trusted Intranet Sites
>
> Troy,
>
> How would I actually go about applying the registry hack with a policy?
> I'd need to use the Inetesc.adm file, wouldn't I?
>
> - Philip
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> -Original Message-
> From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 11:28 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: RE: Trusted Intranet Sites
>
> Phil,
>
> If you wanted to add rather than replace, this is merely a registry
> setting.  Adding all of monacocoach.com to your local intranet would
> look like: (excuse silly outlook wrapping)
>
> reg add
> "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet
> Settings\ZoneMap\Domains\monacocoach.com" /v "*" /t REG_DWORD /d
> 0001 /f
>
> So you could take that string and easily apply that in a policy without
> replacing existing settings.
>
> -troy
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Phil Hershey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 11:08 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: GPO: Trusted Intranet Sites
>
> I need to add an internal site to every user's Local Intranet sites.
> Is
> there a simple way to do that with a GPO or even the Default Domain
> GPO,
> since it applied to everyone?
>
> Phil Hershey


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RE: Salary Advice

[Greg Mulholland]

LOL -- you have to explain in-jokes...
 related article: http://news.hereisthecity.com/news/business_news/7806.cntns

Besides aren't you supposed to be in hospital??


From: Steve Moffat [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NTSysAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 2 May 2008 8:47 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Salary Advice


OGC

:)

From: Greg Mulholland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 7:15 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Salary Advice

Thanks .. i am really looking forward to it.. large dell shop and get some real 
hand on exp with ESX and just about everything else ive been doing for the last 
few years just on a larger scale. Plus there are some nice carrots for the next 
year, OCS, OPSmgr, Win2k8 etc.. oh and they money is a bonus :)



From: James Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 2 May 2008 7:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Salary Advice
Well, good luck at the new gig dude.
- Original Message -
From: Greg Mulholland<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: NT System Admin Issues<mailto:ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 5:49 PM
Subject: RE: Salary Advice

The salary game is always a funny question to me. What some people would value 
as 100k others would value at 70k so you sometimes cant compare salaries. My 
theory is if i really think i am worth 150k and it wont be a pain to move then 
i will chase that money. However if i think i know i can get more somewhere 
else but life and work circumstances mean moving is not advisable or possible 
then i will be happy with what i get.

To me the place i work is just as important as what i do and the money i get 
paid.. Incidentally today is my last day at my current job.. :)


From: Kevin Lundy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 2 May 2008 2:42 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Salary Advice
I'm in the Tampa area and if I had an opening, I'd hire someone with the skills 
you describe for about 80k.  You said medical industry but I didn't see any 
mention of regulatory compliance.  If you are responsible for that, maybe 
another 10k.
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Christos Ruci <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>> wrote:



Good Afternoon,

I need some advice on what you all think the relevant salary is for my current 
position.



Currently I am the MIS (IT) Manager for  a medical company with the following 
responsibilities.



-9 offices

-200 employees

-2 technicians underneath

-no network administrator

-normal network management (Exchange,IIS, ISA, FTPS, Fax Server….etc)

-in-house Web Application development/testing/hosting

-Open 24 hours

-Also manage the record management department (I created an in-house system to 
make all items electronic….member files, applications..etc)



My salary is in review and I know they will be asking me what I think a fair 
salary is due to the upcoming changes that are to occur and the additional 
projects I am to complete.



--I am heading a company move to another city and need do the wiring, design of 
the IT room, design of all the seating, moving of numbers, ordering of 
T1's/PRI's…etc



--I am switching the company over to a VOIP system rather than a normal analog 
system.



--I am also in the  process of implementing a cyber center where we will be 
hosting all of our server with a DS3 connection back to corporate. (Due to 
being in Florida we needed something more secure for hurricane season)



--I am also implementing redundant vendors for voice and data.



Of course there is more but that is the jist of it.



I should also include that I have been with the company for 3 years and 5 years 
prior experience. I have a BA in CIS and pursuing my MBA as well.




























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