Re: PESO - Portrait of Helen

[Cotty]

On 7/6/07, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:

>P.S. - hey, Cotty.  I got Landis' email addy, too!  So there.

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Re: PESO - Portrait of Helen

[Cotty]

On 6/6/07, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed:

>http://www.alphoto.com/images/helen.jpg
>
>taken Saturday morning at GFM.

Doug, you don't know what this pic does to me ;-)

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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/06/06 Wed PM 09:55:10 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: OT - recovering files with Linux
> 
> Looked.  It's too late now, I read the rest and I'm just very, very, pissed.
> 

Vista certainly seems to have great potential for terrorism purposes.  One 
report of a "leaky" device causes worldwide revocation of that device during 
updates?  I suspect that, with artificially generated reports on about a dozen 
different video cards, you could shut down most of the USA government computer 
network, once it's on Vista.  Brilliant.

   
> >>> On 6/6/07, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  
> >>>
> >>>   
>  Neither of my computers will even run that resource hog. Guess I am 
>  lucky.
> 
>  
> >>> I'd say no sane person would run Vista anyway. A well-known computer
> >>> security expert recently did an analysis of some of the costs:
> >>> http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html



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Re: who cares about 22mp

[Sylwester Pietrzyk]

On 2007-06-07, at 04:23, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> Uh, yeah it sold for way to high a price. Good to see that Pentax
> gear is still drawing large dollars. But I don't understand what that
> has to do with a high-res MF camera
That's not good so far, at least for newcomers who are still building  
K-based system. It's Pentax to blame, because they can't provide good  
supply of desired K-accesories :-( Let's hope it changes as soon as  
they start production of DA* lenses.



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Re: PESO - Portrait of Helen

[mike wilson]

> 
> From: Doug Brewer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2007/06/07 Thu AM 03:05:22 GMT
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> Subject: Re: PESO - Portrait of Helen
> 
> 
> On Jun 6, 2007, at 10:22 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
> > Okay, if there's a lady in there, I totally missed her. Far too small
> > an image to see her. I guess Helen is that little nipple atop the
> > rock? Bigger, Doug, bigger.:-)
> 
> okay, but you'll have to wait until July.
> 
> We're leaving in the morning on a three week camping and photoing  
> trip out West, to visit Yellowstone and Glacier and the Tetons and  
> parts of Alberta, Craters of the Moon, and maybe a stop around Moab.  

AKA Largeformat Land.


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Re: PESO 2007 - 25b, 25c, 25d - GDG

[Paul Stenquist]

I like the compositions, particularly the last two. But I'm not keen  
on the high contrast and subsequent lack of shadow detail.
On Jun 7, 2007, at 1:46 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

> Three pictures from Wednesday's explorations in a new site ...
>
>http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/25b.htm
>http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/25c.htm
>http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/25d.htm
>
> Larger versions in the above pages by clicking on the images.
>
> Comments, critique, and bait always appreciated.
>
> best,
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Re: who cares about 22mp

[Collin R Brendemuehl]

High-res MF cameras aren't part of current Pentax reality.
This is.

At 10:00 PM 6/6/2007, you wrote:
>Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 22:23:53 -0400
>From: Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: who cares about 22mp
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>Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Uh, yeah it sold for way to high a price. Good to see that Pentax
>gear is still drawing large dollars. But I don't understand what that
>has to do with a high-res MF camera
>Paul


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Re: housekeeping

[Mark Roberts]

Digital Image Studio wrote:

>On 07/06/07, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> BTW, I do seem to recall reference to Photoshop temp files not being
>> deleted and accumulating on Windows systems, I think it was on
>> Photo.net.
>
>PS CS creates a temp file per session (on the nominated drive, I'm not
>sure what happens if multiple drives are nominated) which is always
>automatically deleted if the application is closed normally. If it
>crashes it can leave debris but on a well set-up system that type of
>occurrence would be rare.

I just checked my system: It's Camera Raw that creates "cache" (not 
"temp") files of about 4.3 meg each On my system they're in 
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application 
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Re: PESO 2007 - 25b, 25c, 25d - GDG

[Cassio Vogel Dorneles]

Hi.
I like all the three pictures.

I can see some details in shadows in the last two, and I think a
lighter background with more details would be distracting.

Being a little perfectionist, I would point that "halos" on the
fishies. I don't know if it's due processing or if it was there when
the picture was taken, but I think it's a little disturbing.

Great pictures, anyway.

Cassio

On 6/7/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I like the compositions, particularly the last two. But I'm not keen
> on the high contrast and subsequent lack of shadow detail.
> On Jun 7, 2007, at 1:46 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
>
> > Three pictures from Wednesday's explorations in a new site ...
> >
> >http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/25b.htm
> >http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/25c.htm
> >http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/25d.htm
> >
> > Larger versions in the above pages by clicking on the images.
> >
> > Comments, critique, and bait always appreciated.
> >
> > best,
> > Godfrey
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Re: A quick Picasa web gallery

[David J Brooks]

On 6/6/07, ann sanfedele <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David J Brooks wrote:
>
> >On 6/6/07, Mark Cassino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Nice gallery, Dave - Doug looks like you swiped his beer or something
> >>
> >>
> >
> >If it were only that.
> >
> >LOL
> >
> >Dave
> >
> >
> Dave - nice gallery!  I remember when you took the shot of "frank"
> through the screen :)
>
> lots of fun shots and some pretty stuff, too
>
> Wish I'd seen that sunset...

It was not as great as hoped, but we got some nice ones. Cotty, Me,
Cory and Bruce went up Thursday.
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GFM - Report and pics

[Cotty]

After reading the excellent reports published already, there's not much
to add really. So here's a few random thoughts, in chronological order...

I really don't like bad turbulence - on a flight. I think I'd rather
have bad turbulence of the 'I've eaten too much' kind  any day.
Fortunately everything went to plan and my trip was otherwise good. Nice
to be back in the USA where nobody gives a shit ;-)

I learned to drive when I was 15 in California at High School, so I'm
not shy of left-hookers. However, piloting a 25 foot camper in the
evening rush hour on the Beltway between the 66 and the 270 near DC was
akin to having bamboo inserted up the fingernails. Luckily I got that
hang of it and was soon cutting up all the mo-fos that had cut me up.
The maxim 'give way to larger vehicle' does actually work.

I drove to Germantown and met up with Christian. Great to see you again
mate. We popped out for dinner to the Dogfish Brewery where loud waiters
proclaimed their undying love for our occupancy of their table,
repeatedly offered deals and sweeteners, swung by constantly in case
there was anything we needed. "Hi. I'm Carl and I'll be guiding you on
your journey..."  I'm British. I'm used to being ignored in restaurants.

We had beer. Well, it was between 9 and 18 percent and was served in
brandy glasses, but they said it was beer. I found a 3.5% called
Lawnmower Light and struggled not to ask what was in it. At least I
could chug it down to combat temps in the 80s F and high humidity.
Cesar, Stehen Moore, and long-time ex-lister Tom Van Veen (tv) joined us
and so we sat and laughed at Christian's haircut all evening. I had a
good time, thanks guys.

Christian and his wife Kerry were perfect hosts for my pre-GFM sojourn,
and despite my protests gave up their bed for me. This was above and
beyond the call, but I relented and slept like a baby: I kept waking up
and was sick everywhere.

Christian was amused when I poured sugar on my Weetabix the next
morning. Dude - California in the 70s, I keep telling ya! Cesar joined
us for coffee and we sat on Christian's back porch where birds of every
kind flew in for a nibble, Christian's Darkside 500/4 at the ready. That
guy has a good eye for the birds.

Cesar thoughtfully brought some ballast for the RV: 12 bags of gear. Why
strain with indecision when there's all that room, right mate? After
saying ta ta to Christian, we hit the morning rush hour traffic on the
Beltway again. I don't think my driving had that bad an effect on Cesar.
He was very quiet for the first few minutes, until I realised I was
supposed to keep *between* the dashed white lines.

9 hours and several stops later we reached GFM about 6.30pm and met up
with the occupants of PDML West (Cory's camper). Thanks for all the help
setting up things like shore-lines etc (these campers are so big they
have to be moored). Non-lister Bruce Metcalf waltzed over from his RV
and insisted I borrow some levelling chocks for the rental RV. This
theme of helping out set the tone for the whole weekend and people would
simply come up to you and give you things. Being a Brit, I would just go
up to people and apologise.

This was Thusday, and so folk were slowly making their way up to the
mountain. Great to see old friends once again (Cory, Annsan, Nico,
Graywolf, Tom Reese, Doug, Mark, Bob, Don, Scott, Charles, Bill and
Phyllis - the list is endless), and some new ones (Scott, Dave Brooks,
Dave Savage, Mat, Mark Cassino, Ken Waller, and more - the names swarm
in my mind). Please forgive me if I have left you out, it must have been
the Lawnmower Light.

Weather was cool and rainy, with dry spots in between. (Perhaps I should
go on 'Mastermind' - specialised subject: Stating the Bleeding Obvious).
The scenery is simply breath-taking and nobody who goes there can fail
to be overwhelmed by the beauty of the place. Think then of my
anticipation as I awaited the arrival of a very dear friend who I knew
at school back in CA in the 1970s. Brian Kavanagh lives near Cincinnati
and upon hearing of my trip, had decided to drive down to meet me. He
duly turned up in his bright blue VW bug (too long a trip really for his
Triumph 900 monster although it would have only been 6 hours instead of
8...) and we hadn't met in 28 years. It was quite a moment, and we soon
discovered that we basically were carrying on where we had left off all
those years ago. To be doing this at GFM was simply the icing on the
cake. Great to see you guy, and now we'll keep the interim down to
years, not decades!

Saturday saw us hiking up GFM, huffing and puffing in Mark's dust as he
rocketed up the mountain with a respectable crowd in tow. Kudos to Cory
for keeping up with the Mountain Goat On Crack. Cory later kissed the
car park tarmac on his return. You laugh, but he likes a Frenchy I
gather. Rick and Mat made MacRae before Brian, Scotty and me, and that
was far enough. It's quite a climb, and the sight of Scotty taking a
break between sweaty inclines with 

Re: GFM Photo

[David J Brooks]

Maybe someone kept him up all night.:-)

Good shot Cory. The 50-200 seems to handle a tele very well. I'll have
to try my 1.4

Dave

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> Looks like he's pissed!
>
> Kenneth Waller
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "cbwaters" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Subject: GFM Photo
>
>
> > Here's a bird shot from Sunday morning in the rain.  It's a little noisy
> > now.. must be something I did in Elements.  It's the first shot I've run
> > through since I upgraded today to 5.0.  K10 with the 1.7AF + DA50-200.
> > http://cwaters.smugmug.com/gallery/2964247#160280825-L-LB
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Re: PESO - Portrait of Helen

[David J Brooks]

On 6/7/07, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 7/6/07, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >P.S. - hey, Cotty.  I got Landis' email addy, too!  So there.
>
> Brian will be jealous!

i have it to.:-)

Dave
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Re: GFM - Report and pics

[David J Brooks]

On 6/7/07, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> After reading the excellent reports published already, there's not much
> to add really. So here's a few random thoughts, in chronological order...
My son wants to come along, and that
> would be fine, as he's 13, and so am I :-)
>
> Sorry! Pictures!
>
> 

"Dave Brooks shoots invisible camera". I don't want to commit my self
to a brand until i know who is buying Pentax, Hoya, Ford Prefect,
Chrysler, or General Mills & Capt Crunch.

Dave
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Re: PESO - Portrait of Helen

[Cotty]

On 7/6/07, David J Brooks, discombobulated, unleashed:

>i have it to.:-)

I've got Helen's :-P

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GFM 2007: My Gallery

[Mark Roberts]

Didn't get to shoot as much as I would have liked, due to official 
responsibilities, but I'll be making more photo-specific trips there in 
the coming year due to a project listguy Doug and I are undertaking.

But here are some snaps I threw together with Web Album Generator:
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Re: GFM - Report and pics

[pnstenquist]

Nice pics and report. Thanks for sharing them.
Paul
 -- Original message --
From: Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> After reading the excellent reports published already, there's not much
> to add really. So here's a few random thoughts, in chronological order...
> 
> I really don't like bad turbulence - on a flight. I think I'd rather
> have bad turbulence of the 'I've eaten too much' kind  any day.
> Fortunately everything went to plan and my trip was otherwise good. Nice
> to be back in the USA where nobody gives a shit ;-)
> 
> I learned to drive when I was 15 in California at High School, so I'm
> not shy of left-hookers. However, piloting a 25 foot camper in the
> evening rush hour on the Beltway between the 66 and the 270 near DC was
> akin to having bamboo inserted up the fingernails. Luckily I got that
> hang of it and was soon cutting up all the mo-fos that had cut me up.
> The maxim 'give way to larger vehicle' does actually work.
> 
> I drove to Germantown and met up with Christian. Great to see you again
> mate. We popped out for dinner to the Dogfish Brewery where loud waiters
> proclaimed their undying love for our occupancy of their table,
> repeatedly offered deals and sweeteners, swung by constantly in case
> there was anything we needed. "Hi. I'm Carl and I'll be guiding you on
> your journey..."  I'm British. I'm used to being ignored in restaurants.
> 
> We had beer. Well, it was between 9 and 18 percent and was served in
> brandy glasses, but they said it was beer. I found a 3.5% called
> Lawnmower Light and struggled not to ask what was in it. At least I
> could chug it down to combat temps in the 80s F and high humidity.
> Cesar, Stehen Moore, and long-time ex-lister Tom Van Veen (tv) joined us
> and so we sat and laughed at Christian's haircut all evening. I had a
> good time, thanks guys.
> 
> Christian and his wife Kerry were perfect hosts for my pre-GFM sojourn,
> and despite my protests gave up their bed for me. This was above and
> beyond the call, but I relented and slept like a baby: I kept waking up
> and was sick everywhere.
> 
> Christian was amused when I poured sugar on my Weetabix the next
> morning. Dude - California in the 70s, I keep telling ya! Cesar joined
> us for coffee and we sat on Christian's back porch where birds of every
> kind flew in for a nibble, Christian's Darkside 500/4 at the ready. That
> guy has a good eye for the birds.
> 
> Cesar thoughtfully brought some ballast for the RV: 12 bags of gear. Why
> strain with indecision when there's all that room, right mate? After
> saying ta ta to Christian, we hit the morning rush hour traffic on the
> Beltway again. I don't think my driving had that bad an effect on Cesar.
> He was very quiet for the first few minutes, until I realised I was
> supposed to keep *between* the dashed white lines.
> 
> 9 hours and several stops later we reached GFM about 6.30pm and met up
> with the occupants of PDML West (Cory's camper). Thanks for all the help
> setting up things like shore-lines etc (these campers are so big they
> have to be moored). Non-lister Bruce Metcalf waltzed over from his RV
> and insisted I borrow some levelling chocks for the rental RV. This
> theme of helping out set the tone for the whole weekend and people would
> simply come up to you and give you things. Being a Brit, I would just go
> up to people and apologise.
> 
> This was Thusday, and so folk were slowly making their way up to the
> mountain. Great to see old friends once again (Cory, Annsan, Nico,
> Graywolf, Tom Reese, Doug, Mark, Bob, Don, Scott, Charles, Bill and
> Phyllis - the list is endless), and some new ones (Scott, Dave Brooks,
> Dave Savage, Mat, Mark Cassino, Ken Waller, and more - the names swarm
> in my mind). Please forgive me if I have left you out, it must have been
> the Lawnmower Light.
> 
> Weather was cool and rainy, with dry spots in between. (Perhaps I should
> go on 'Mastermind' - specialised subject: Stating the Bleeding Obvious).
> The scenery is simply breath-taking and nobody who goes there can fail
> to be overwhelmed by the beauty of the place. Think then of my
> anticipation as I awaited the arrival of a very dear friend who I knew
> at school back in CA in the 1970s. Brian Kavanagh lives near Cincinnati
> and upon hearing of my trip, had decided to drive down to meet me. He
> duly turned up in his bright blue VW bug (too long a trip really for his
> Triumph 900 monster although it would have only been 6 hours instead of
> 8...) and we hadn't met in 28 years. It was quite a moment, and we soon
> discovered that we basically were carrying on where we had left off all
> those years ago. To be doing this at GFM was simply the icing on the
> cake. Great to see you guy, and now we'll keep the interim down to
> years, not decades!
> 
> Saturday saw us hiking up GFM, huffing and puffing in Mark's dust as he
> rocketed up the mountain with a respectable crowd in tow. Kudos to Cory
> for ke

Re: GFM 2007: My Gallery

[pnstenquist]

Some nice ones. I especially like the sun shining through the fog.
Paul
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From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Didn't get to shoot as much as I would have liked, due to official 
> responsibilities, but I'll be making more photo-specific trips there in 
> the coming year due to a project listguy Doug and I are undertaking.
> 
> But here are some snaps I threw together with Web Album Generator:
> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfm2007/
> 
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Re: housekeeping

[Digital Image Studio]

On 07/06/07, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I just checked my system: It's Camera Raw that creates "cache" (not
> "temp") files of about 4.3 meg each On my system they're in
> C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application
> Data\Adobe\CameraRaw\Cache and I haven't found any way to change the
> location yet.

Interesting, I'm still running ACR2.4 and all I can see there is the
conversion "Database" file.

> Not a big deal except that I have my computer set up to use the C drive
> for the operating system *only*. These cache files just increase the
> size of my system back-up and, of course, the time required to make the
> back-up.

I have a similar problem though it's Picasa and Google Earth that
pollute my system drive with huge cache/database files. The Google sub
alone in my user profile is 1.65GB so incremental back-ups are
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Re: housekeeping

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Roberts"
Subject: Re: housekeeping



> I just checked my system: It's Camera Raw that creates "cache" (not
> "temp") files of about 4.3 meg each On my system they're in
> C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application
> Data\Adobe\CameraRaw\Cache and I haven't found any way to change the
> location yet.
>
>

Open Bridge: Edit/Camera RAW Preferences. You will find a control there to 
let you limit the size of the cache (It appears to be 1gb by default), and 
you can also select the location of the cache there.

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Re: GFM 2007: My Gallery

[David J Brooks]

Some great shots Mark. I like the sunset tree and Doug, in that order.:-)

Dave

On 6/7/07, Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Didn't get to shoot as much as I would have liked, due to official
> responsibilities, but I'll be making more photo-specific trips there in
> the coming year due to a project listguy Doug and I are undertaking.
>
> But here are some snaps I threw together with Web Album Generator:
> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfm2007/
>
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Re: A Flower Picture

[David J Brooks]

Nice Bill.

Good background

Dave

On 6/6/07, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well done.
>
> Kenneth Waller
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: PESO: A Flower Picture
>
>
> >I shot this in my back yard last evening with the K10, A100mm/2.8 Macro and
> > the FGZ-540 flash.
> >
> > http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/columbine1.html
> >
> >
> > Enjoy
> >
> > William Robb
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Re: Teo

[David J Brooks]

Good shot Wendy. Good to see someone was working whist we played on a
mountain..:-)

Dave

On 6/6/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "wendy beard"
> Subject: PESO: Teo
>
>
> > aka "another dog pic"
> >
> > This past weekend while everybody was whooping it up at GFM, I was at
> > the AAC Regional agility championships just outside London, Ontario.
> > I was entred as a competitor and pleased to say both dogs qualified to
> > go on to the Nationals. I took along the K10D and FA300/4.5
> > Hardly had time to take any pictures, think I managed 10 all weekend.
> > This is one of them. Teo, a Belgian Groenendael (Belgian Sheepdog to
> > you people in the USofA)
> > http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/80001413
> >
> > I think I like this lens.
>
> Well done. Our agility enthusiasts have decided to not put a trial on this
> year. Bunch of high maintanance sissys that they are.
> I did some nice stuff last year with the FA*300/4.5 at the trial. I'll have
> to seek out some trials this year, just as a change from the bloody beauty
> pageants.
> Bella loves agility, I suspect it's a Belgian thing. Most all the ones I
> have met have enjoyed it.
>
> William Robb
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Re: PESO - Portrait of Helen

[P. J. Alling]

Fills you with a vague sense of disappointment

Cotty wrote:
> On 6/6/07, Doug Brewer, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>   
>> http://www.alphoto.com/images/helen.jpg
>>
>> taken Saturday morning at GFM.
>> 
>
> Doug, you don't know what this pic does to me ;-)
>
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Re: PESO - Portrait of Helen

[P. J. Alling]

I don't think Brian has any reason to be jealous, e-mail?  Feh.  She
probably has an extra e-mail to give out to guys she might want to talk
to but might want to ignore.  Now a phone number, if she wants to hear
his voice again, (and is willing to risk getting a stalker), that should
make Brian jealous.  Wait a minuet who's  Brian anyway???

Cotty wrote:
> On 7/6/07, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>   
>> P.S. - hey, Cotty.  I got Landis' email addy, too!  So there.
>> 
>
> Brian will be jealous!
>
>
>
>   


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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

[P. J. Alling]

Back when the US was prosecuting Microsoft for monopolistic practices US 
Gov. requirements were that contractors, suppliers and agencies were to 
use some flavor of Unix.  Unfortunately after that episode was finished 
all was forgiven.  On top of that I'd bet just about every country in 
the world is using Windows, and 90% of all commercial enterprises world 
wide as well.  Microsoft created the original hooks used by most spywear 
for similar purposes (and now gives away band aids to while not really 
fixing the problems).  They are truly an evil organization. Microsoft 
proves that over and over again. Unfortunately being evil by itself 
isn't against the law. 

mike wilson wrote:
>> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 2007/06/06 Wed PM 09:55:10 GMT
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>> Subject: Re: OT - recovering files with Linux
>>
>> Looked.  It's too late now, I read the rest and I'm just very, very, pissed.
>>
>> 
>
> Vista certainly seems to have great potential for terrorism purposes.  One 
> report of a "leaky" device causes worldwide revocation of that device during 
> updates?  I suspect that, with artificially generated reports on about a 
> dozen different video cards, you could shut down most of the USA government 
> computer network, once it's on Vista.  Brilliant.
>
>
>   
> On 6/6/07, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  
>
>   
>   
>> Neither of my computers will even run that resource hog. Guess I am 
>> lucky.
>>
>> 
>> 
> I'd say no sane person would run Vista anyway. A well-known computer
> security expert recently did an analysis of some of the costs:
> http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html
>   
>
>
>
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Re: Teo

[wendy beard]

On 6/6/07, Kenneth Waller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The dog appears under exposed on my calibrated monitor.
> I'd probably crop out the white post @ the top.
>
> The FA 300mm f4.5 is one of my most used lenses.
>
> Kenneth Waller
>
> > http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/80001413
> >

Looking back on the few I took, they all look a bit muddy. My monitor
at home must be overly bright, will have to dig out the spyder and
re-calibrate.

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Re: PESO - Portrait of Helen

[David J Brooks]

On 6/7/07, P. J. Alling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't think Brian has any reason to be jealous, e-mail?  Feh.  She
> probably has an extra e-mail to give out to guys she might want to talk
> to but might want to ignore.  Now a phone number, if she wants to hear
> his voice again, (and is willing to risk getting a stalker), that should
> make Brian jealous.  Wait a minuet who's  Brian anyway???

Rewesse Bwian.

Dave
>
> Cotty wrote:
> > On 7/6/07, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:
> >
> >
> >> P.S. - hey, Cotty.  I got Landis' email addy, too!  So there.
> >>
> >
> > Brian will be jealous!
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Re: PESO: Teo

[wendy beard]

On 6/6/07, Christian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/80001413
>
> Beautiful.  Great action.  Kinda funny how the dog isn't looking where
> it is going...
>
It is really. It's looking where it's going next. The handler is on
the side the dog is turning towards.
This is another dog at the same jump, again turning towards the handler
http://www.pbase.com/wendybeard/image/80001061

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Re: PESO: A Flower Picture

[AlunFoto]

lovely shot, Bill. With imperfections and all. :-)

Jostein


2007/6/7, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I shot this in my back yard last evening with the K10, A100mm/2.8 Macro and
> the FGZ-540 flash.
>
> http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/columbine1.html
>
>
> Enjoy
>
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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

[Scott Loveless]

Doesn't matter to me anymore.  Files are recovered, Ubuntu is installed, I can 
print over the network, and Lightzone can open PEFs from the K10.  Life is good 
without Billy and the gang.

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From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Back when the US was prosecuting Microsoft for monopolistic practices US 
> Gov. requirements were that contractors, suppliers and agencies were to 
> use some flavor of Unix.  Unfortunately after that episode was finished 
> all was forgiven.  On top of that I'd bet just about every country in 
> the world is using Windows, and 90% of all commercial enterprises world 
> wide as well.  Microsoft created the original hooks used by most spywear 
> for similar purposes (and now gives away band aids to while not really 
> fixing the problems).  They are truly an evil organization. Microsoft 
> proves that over and over again. Unfortunately being evil by itself 
> isn't against the law. 
> 
> mike wilson wrote:
> >> From: "P. J. Alling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Date: 2007/06/06 Wed PM 09:55:10 GMT
> >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
> >> Subject: Re: OT - recovering files with Linux
> >>
> >> Looked.  It's too late now, I read the rest and I'm just very, very, 
> >> pissed.
> >>
> >> 
> >
> > Vista certainly seems to have great potential for terrorism purposes.  One 
> report of a "leaky" device causes worldwide revocation of that device during 
> updates?  I suspect that, with artificially generated reports on about a 
> dozen 
> different video cards, you could shut down most of the USA government 
> computer 
> network, once it's on Vista.  Brilliant.
> >
> >
> >   
> > On 6/6/07, graywolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >   
> >   
> >> Neither of my computers will even run that resource hog. Guess I am 
> lucky.
> >>
> >> 
> >> 
> > I'd say no sane person would run Vista anyway. A well-known computer
> > security expert recently did an analysis of some of the costs:
> > http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html
> >   
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> > Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email
> > Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam
> >
> >
> >   
> 
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RE: PESO: A Flower Picture

[Tom C]

That's pretty!  We have a yellow Columbine that started blooming profusely 
after you left. Fifteen or more blooms on it, all open at the same time, 
right next to a deep royal purple Clematis.

Must try to take some macro shots this weekend.


Tom C.


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>To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>Subject: PESO: A Flower Picture
>Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2007 19:07:17 -0600
>
>I shot this in my back yard last evening with the K10, A100mm/2.8 Macro and
>the FGZ-540 flash.
>
>http://users.accesscomm.ca/wrobb/pictures/peso/columbine1.html
>
>
>Enjoy
>
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Re: PESO 2007 - 25b, 25c, 25d - GDG

[AlunFoto]

The halo is diffusion caused by the water.

I like #2 best, but I think the contrast is too hard in all of them.
Looks like you've used contrast settings to subdue reflections in the
water surface.

Jostein


2007/6/7, Cassio Vogel Dorneles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Hi.
> I like all the three pictures.
>
> I can see some details in shadows in the last two, and I think a
> lighter background with more details would be distracting.
>
> Being a little perfectionist, I would point that "halos" on the
> fishies. I don't know if it's due processing or if it was there when
> the picture was taken, but I think it's a little disturbing.
>
> Great pictures, anyway.
>
> Cassio
>
> On 6/7/07, Paul Stenquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I like the compositions, particularly the last two. But I'm not keen
> > on the high contrast and subsequent lack of shadow detail.
> > On Jun 7, 2007, at 1:46 AM, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:
> >
> > > Three pictures from Wednesday's explorations in a new site ...
> > >
> > >http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/25b.htm
> > >http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/25c.htm
> > >http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/25d.htm
> > >
> > > Larger versions in the above pages by clicking on the images.
> > >
> > > Comments, critique, and bait always appreciated.
> > >
> > > best,
> > > Godfrey
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Re: GFM - Report and pics

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Cotty wrote:
> After reading the excellent reports published already, there's not much
> to add really. So here's a few random thoughts, in chronological order...
> 
> I really don't like bad turbulence - on a flight. I think I'd rather
> have bad turbulence of the 'I've eaten too much' kind  any day.
> Fortunately everything went to plan and my trip was otherwise good. Nice
> to be back in the USA where nobody gives a shit ;-)
> 
> I learned to drive when I was 15 in California at High School, so I'm
> not shy of left-hookers. However, piloting a 25 foot camper in the
> evening rush hour on the Beltway between the 66 and the 270 near DC was
> akin to having bamboo inserted up the fingernails. Luckily I got that
> hang of it and was soon cutting up all the mo-fos that had cut me up.
> The maxim 'give way to larger vehicle' does actually work.
> 
> I drove to Germantown and met up with Christian. Great to see you again
> mate. We popped out for dinner to the Dogfish Brewery where loud waiters
> proclaimed their undying love for our occupancy of their table,
> repeatedly offered deals and sweeteners, swung by constantly in case
> there was anything we needed. "Hi. I'm Carl and I'll be guiding you on
> your journey..."  I'm British. I'm used to being ignored in restaurants.
> 
> We had beer. Well, it was between 9 and 18 percent and was served in
> brandy glasses, but they said it was beer. I found a 3.5% called
> Lawnmower Light and struggled not to ask what was in it. At least I
> could chug it down to combat temps in the 80s F and high humidity.
> Cesar, Stehen Moore, and long-time ex-lister Tom Van Veen (tv) joined us
> and so we sat and laughed at Christian's haircut all evening. I had a
> good time, thanks guys.
> 
> Christian and his wife Kerry were perfect hosts for my pre-GFM sojourn,
> and despite my protests gave up their bed for me. This was above and
> beyond the call, but I relented and slept like a baby: I kept waking up
> and was sick everywhere.
> 
> Christian was amused when I poured sugar on my Weetabix the next
> morning. Dude - California in the 70s, I keep telling ya! Cesar joined
> us for coffee and we sat on Christian's back porch where birds of every
> kind flew in for a nibble, Christian's Darkside 500/4 at the ready. That
> guy has a good eye for the birds.
> 
> Cesar thoughtfully brought some ballast for the RV: 12 bags of gear. Why
> strain with indecision when there's all that room, right mate? After
> saying ta ta to Christian, we hit the morning rush hour traffic on the
> Beltway again. I don't think my driving had that bad an effect on Cesar.
> He was very quiet for the first few minutes, until I realised I was
> supposed to keep *between* the dashed white lines.
> 
> 9 hours and several stops later we reached GFM about 6.30pm and met up
> with the occupants of PDML West (Cory's camper). Thanks for all the help
> setting up things like shore-lines etc (these campers are so big they
> have to be moored). Non-lister Bruce Metcalf waltzed over from his RV
> and insisted I borrow some levelling chocks for the rental RV. This
> theme of helping out set the tone for the whole weekend and people would
> simply come up to you and give you things. Being a Brit, I would just go
> up to people and apologise.
> 
> This was Thusday, and so folk were slowly making their way up to the
> mountain. Great to see old friends once again (Cory, Annsan, Nico,
> Graywolf, Tom Reese, Doug, Mark, Bob, Don, Scott, Charles, Bill and
> Phyllis - the list is endless), and some new ones (Scott, Dave Brooks,
> Dave Savage, Mat, Mark Cassino, Ken Waller, and more - the names swarm
> in my mind). Please forgive me if I have left you out, it must have been
> the Lawnmower Light.
> 
> Weather was cool and rainy, with dry spots in between. (Perhaps I should
> go on 'Mastermind' - specialised subject: Stating the Bleeding Obvious).
> The scenery is simply breath-taking and nobody who goes there can fail
> to be overwhelmed by the beauty of the place. Think then of my
> anticipation as I awaited the arrival of a very dear friend who I knew
> at school back in CA in the 1970s. Brian Kavanagh lives near Cincinnati
> and upon hearing of my trip, had decided to drive down to meet me. He
> duly turned up in his bright blue VW bug (too long a trip really for his
> Triumph 900 monster although it would have only been 6 hours instead of
> 8...) and we hadn't met in 28 years. It was quite a moment, and we soon
> discovered that we basically were carrying on where we had left off all
> those years ago. To be doing this at GFM was simply the icing on the
> cake. Great to see you guy, and now we'll keep the interim down to
> years, not decades!
> 
> Saturday saw us hiking up GFM, huffing and puffing in Mark's dust as he
> rocketed up the mountain with a respectable crowd in t

RE: GFM 2007: My Gallery

[Tom C]

Nice job.  Especially on the pasture shot and the Calloway Peak vista.


Tom C.



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>Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 09:21:54 -0400 (EDT)
>
>Didn't get to shoot as much as I would have liked, due to official
>responsibilities, but I'll be making more photo-specific trips there in
>the coming year due to a project listguy Doug and I are undertaking.
>
>But here are some snaps I threw together with Web Album Generator:
>http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfm2007/
>
>
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Re: housekeeping

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Jun 7, 2007, at 6:54 AM, Digital Image Studio wrote:

>> Not a big deal except that I have my computer set up to use the C  
>> drive
>> for the operating system *only*. These cache files just increase the
>> size of my system back-up and, of course, the time required to  
>> make the
>> back-up.
>
> I have a similar problem though it's Picasa and Google Earth that
> pollute my system drive with huge cache/database files. The Google sub
> alone in my user profile is 1.65GB so incremental back-ups are
> impractical and there is no way to redirect the files. :-(

I tell the Apple Backup application to exclude the subdirectories  
that cache and temp files are stored in. There should be a way to do  
that with any useful backup utility.

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RE: GFM - Report and pics

[Tom C]

Nice collection of shots both scenic and people. Kinda plasticky though. ;-)

Tom C.

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Re: 22 MPix digital MF under 10000$

[Tom C]

>From: "Digital Image Studio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
>Subject: Re: 22 MPix digital MF under 1$
>Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 10:33:56 +1000
>
>On 07/06/07, William Robb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Can you just imagine the noise and abuse that would generate from all 
>the
> > people who have invested heavily in one size smaller format lenses?
>
>Yes, it would be slightly amusing.
>
>--
>Rob Studdert

Just slightly.

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Re: PESO - Walnut Creek

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 6/6/2007 2:14:35 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 6/6/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED],  discombobulated, unleashed:

>Anyway, this is where I   live...
>
>http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/wc.htm
>
>Comments   welcome.

Nice shot Marnie. Love the composition.

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Thanks,  Cotty!

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Re: PESO - The Wave (Revisited)

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In a message dated 6/6/2007 2:56:48 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Marnie,

The problem is  that the advancing wave of houses is
the subject, but they don't stand out in  the photo. 
Especially in #3, they lose to the mountains and
dramatic  sky.

Nice pix, but they aren't doing the job you want them
to,  IMHO.

Rick

==
Well, actually, I meant the advancing fog  wave. :-) Which is a bit visible 
behind the houses. I think it works well  enough, Rick, and I have other shots 
of other things.

Thanks for  looking.

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OT: Great Mountain Moonrise

[Daniel J. Matyola]

>From the Astronomy Picture of the Day website, a great example of
multiple exposure techniques:

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap070607.html

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Re: GFM - Report and pics

[Brendan MacRae]

Great story and great pix, Cotty.

Thanks.

-Brendan
--- Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> After reading the excellent reports published
> already, there's not much
> to add really. So here's a few random thoughts, in
> chronological order...
> 
> I really don't like bad turbulence - on a flight. I
> think I'd rather
> have bad turbulence of the 'I've eaten too much'
> kind  any day.
> Fortunately everything went to plan and my trip was
> otherwise good. Nice
> to be back in the USA where nobody gives a shit ;-)
> 
> I learned to drive when I was 15 in California at
> High School, so I'm
> not shy of left-hookers. However, piloting a 25 foot
> camper in the
> evening rush hour on the Beltway between the 66 and
> the 270 near DC was
> akin to having bamboo inserted up the fingernails.
> Luckily I got that
> hang of it and was soon cutting up all the mo-fos
> that had cut me up.
> The maxim 'give way to larger vehicle' does actually
> work.
> 
> I drove to Germantown and met up with Christian.
> Great to see you again
> mate. We popped out for dinner to the Dogfish
> Brewery where loud waiters
> proclaimed their undying love for our occupancy of
> their table,
> repeatedly offered deals and sweeteners, swung by
> constantly in case
> there was anything we needed. "Hi. I'm Carl and I'll
> be guiding you on
> your journey..."  I'm British. I'm used to being
> ignored in restaurants.
> 
> We had beer. Well, it was between 9 and 18 percent
> and was served in
> brandy glasses, but they said it was beer. I found a
> 3.5% called
> Lawnmower Light and struggled not to ask what was in
> it. At least I
> could chug it down to combat temps in the 80s F and
> high humidity.
> Cesar, Stehen Moore, and long-time ex-lister Tom Van
> Veen (tv) joined us
> and so we sat and laughed at Christian's haircut all
> evening. I had a
> good time, thanks guys.
> 
> Christian and his wife Kerry were perfect hosts for
> my pre-GFM sojourn,
> and despite my protests gave up their bed for me.
> This was above and
> beyond the call, but I relented and slept like a
> baby: I kept waking up
> and was sick everywhere.
> 
> Christian was amused when I poured sugar on my
> Weetabix the next
> morning. Dude - California in the 70s, I keep
> telling ya! Cesar joined
> us for coffee and we sat on Christian's back porch
> where birds of every
> kind flew in for a nibble, Christian's Darkside
> 500/4 at the ready. That
> guy has a good eye for the birds.
> 
> Cesar thoughtfully brought some ballast for the RV:
> 12 bags of gear. Why
> strain with indecision when there's all that room,
> right mate? After
> saying ta ta to Christian, we hit the morning rush
> hour traffic on the
> Beltway again. I don't think my driving had that bad
> an effect on Cesar.
> He was very quiet for the first few minutes, until I
> realised I was
> supposed to keep *between* the dashed white lines.
> 
> 9 hours and several stops later we reached GFM about
> 6.30pm and met up
> with the occupants of PDML West (Cory's camper).
> Thanks for all the help
> setting up things like shore-lines etc (these
> campers are so big they
> have to be moored). Non-lister Bruce Metcalf waltzed
> over from his RV
> and insisted I borrow some levelling chocks for the
> rental RV. This
> theme of helping out set the tone for the whole
> weekend and people would
> simply come up to you and give you things. Being a
> Brit, I would just go
> up to people and apologise.
> 
> This was Thusday, and so folk were slowly making
> their way up to the
> mountain. Great to see old friends once again (Cory,
> Annsan, Nico,
> Graywolf, Tom Reese, Doug, Mark, Bob, Don, Scott,
> Charles, Bill and
> Phyllis - the list is endless), and some new ones
> (Scott, Dave Brooks,
> Dave Savage, Mat, Mark Cassino, Ken Waller, and more
> - the names swarm
> in my mind). Please forgive me if I have left you
> out, it must have been
> the Lawnmower Light.
> 
> Weather was cool and rainy, with dry spots in
> between. (Perhaps I should
> go on 'Mastermind' - specialised subject: Stating
> the Bleeding Obvious).
> The scenery is simply breath-taking and nobody who
> goes there can fail
> to be overwhelmed by the beauty of the place. Think
> then of my
> anticipation as I awaited the arrival of a very dear
> friend who I knew
> at school back in CA in the 1970s. Brian Kavanagh
> lives near Cincinnati
> and upon hearing of my trip, had decided to drive
> down to meet me. He
> duly turned up in his bright blue VW bug (too long a
> trip really for his
> Triumph 900 monster although it would have only been
> 6 hours instead of
> 8...) and we hadn't met in 28 years. It was quite a
> moment, and we soon
> discovered that we basically were carrying on where
> we had left off all
> those years ago. To be doing this at GFM was simply
> the icing on the
> cake. Great to see you guy, and now we'll keep the
> interim down to
> years, not decades!
> 
> Saturday saw us hiking up GFM, huffing and puffing
> in Mark's dust as he
> rocke

Re: housekeeping

[Mark Roberts]

William Robb wrote:

>From: "Mark Roberts"
>
>> I just checked my system: It's Camera Raw that creates "cache" (not
>> "temp") files of about 4.3 meg each On my system they're in
>> C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application
>> Data\Adobe\CameraRaw\Cache and I haven't found any way to change the
>> location yet.
>
>Open Bridge: Edit/Camera RAW Preferences. You will find a control there 
to 
>let you limit the size of the cache (It appears to be 1gb by default), 
and 
>you can also select the location of the cache there.

Thanks Bill!
(I hadn't thought of checking in *Bridge* for that.)


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Re: GFM 2007: My Gallery

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In a message dated 6/7/2007 6:31:04 A.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Didn't get to shoot as much as I  would have liked, due to official 
responsibilities, but I'll be making more  photo-specific trips there in 
the coming year due to a project listguy Doug  and I are undertaking.

But here are some snaps I threw together with Web  Album  Generator:
http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfm2007/

==
Nice  gallery. :-) And no one could pay me enough to do that.

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Re: GFM - Report and pics

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In a message dated 6/7/2007 5:02:20 A.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Sorry!  Pictures!



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==
Good report. Nice  gallery with some great people shots. Thanks for sharing.

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Night-Shining Clouds Sighted over Europe

[Tom C]

>From: SpaceWeather.com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Night-Shining Clouds Sighted over Europe>Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 
>11:59:30 -0500
>
>Space Weather News for June 7, 2007
>http://spaceweather.com
>
>NIGHT-SHINING CLOUDS: Last night a vivid display of electric-blue 
>noctilucent clouds (NLCs) appeared over parts of northern Europe, signaling 
>the start of the 2007 NLC season.  Noctilucent or "night-shining" clouds 
>were first reported in the 19th century after the eruption of super-volcano 
>Krakatoa.  In those days, NLCs were confined mainly to high latitudes, but 
>they have intensified and spread with sightings in recent years as far 
>south as Utah and Colorado. The origin of these clouds is a mystery; they 
>may be a side-effect of global warming. A NASA spacecraft named AIM is in 
>orbit now to investigate.
>
>The peak observing season for NLCs is late spring and early summer. For the 
>next two months, northern sky watchers should be alert for silvery tendrils 
>spreading across the western sky after sunset.  High-latitudes (Canada, 
>northern Europe, Alaska) are favored, but NLCs are capable of descending 
>unknown distances south, so it pays to be alert no matter where you live. 
>Visit spaceweather.com for pictures and observing tips.
>
>BONUS BANG:  Sunspot 960 remains big and active this week.  Today's edition 
>of http://spaceweather.com features a movie of the sunspot erupting.  It's 
>a must-see.
>
>If a friend sent you this alert and you would like to subscribe, click 
>here: http://spaceweather.com/services/
>

One of the best photos from the spaceweather site.

http://spaceweather.com/nlcs/images2006/july/Urwin2.jpg

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Re: GFM - Report and pics

[ann sanfedele]

Much enjoyed your report - pics and text - so I've left it all in this 
reply as I never delete send messages
and I'll be able to read it again later :)  bookmarked the pics.

It was great to see ya and meet your old school chum I wonder what 
there is about Ohio -
two of my high school buds (one of whom I acted with back in the 50's, 
too) are both in Cleveland.
Go figure.  

ann


Cotty wrote:

>After reading the excellent reports published already, there's not much
>to add really. So here's a few random thoughts, in chronological order...
>
>I really don't like bad turbulence - on a flight. I think I'd rather
>have bad turbulence of the 'I've eaten too much' kind  any day.
>Fortunately everything went to plan and my trip was otherwise good. Nice
>to be back in the USA where nobody gives a shit ;-)
>
>I learned to drive when I was 15 in California at High School, so I'm
>not shy of left-hookers. However, piloting a 25 foot camper in the
>evening rush hour on the Beltway between the 66 and the 270 near DC was
>akin to having bamboo inserted up the fingernails. Luckily I got that
>hang of it and was soon cutting up all the mo-fos that had cut me up.
>The maxim 'give way to larger vehicle' does actually work.
>
>I drove to Germantown and met up with Christian. Great to see you again
>mate. We popped out for dinner to the Dogfish Brewery where loud waiters
>proclaimed their undying love for our occupancy of their table,
>repeatedly offered deals and sweeteners, swung by constantly in case
>there was anything we needed. "Hi. I'm Carl and I'll be guiding you on
>your journey..."  I'm British. I'm used to being ignored in restaurants.
>
>We had beer. Well, it was between 9 and 18 percent and was served in
>brandy glasses, but they said it was beer. I found a 3.5% called
>Lawnmower Light and struggled not to ask what was in it. At least I
>could chug it down to combat temps in the 80s F and high humidity.
>Cesar, Stehen Moore, and long-time ex-lister Tom Van Veen (tv) joined us
>and so we sat and laughed at Christian's haircut all evening. I had a
>good time, thanks guys.
>
>Christian and his wife Kerry were perfect hosts for my pre-GFM sojourn,
>and despite my protests gave up their bed for me. This was above and
>beyond the call, but I relented and slept like a baby: I kept waking up
>and was sick everywhere.
>
>Christian was amused when I poured sugar on my Weetabix the next
>morning. Dude - California in the 70s, I keep telling ya! Cesar joined
>us for coffee and we sat on Christian's back porch where birds of every
>kind flew in for a nibble, Christian's Darkside 500/4 at the ready. That
>guy has a good eye for the birds.
>
>Cesar thoughtfully brought some ballast for the RV: 12 bags of gear. Why
>strain with indecision when there's all that room, right mate? After
>saying ta ta to Christian, we hit the morning rush hour traffic on the
>Beltway again. I don't think my driving had that bad an effect on Cesar.
>He was very quiet for the first few minutes, until I realised I was
>supposed to keep *between* the dashed white lines.
>
>9 hours and several stops later we reached GFM about 6.30pm and met up
>with the occupants of PDML West (Cory's camper). Thanks for all the help
>setting up things like shore-lines etc (these campers are so big they
>have to be moored). Non-lister Bruce Metcalf waltzed over from his RV
>and insisted I borrow some levelling chocks for the rental RV. This
>theme of helping out set the tone for the whole weekend and people would
>simply come up to you and give you things. Being a Brit, I would just go
>up to people and apologise.
>
>This was Thusday, and so folk were slowly making their way up to the
>mountain. Great to see old friends once again (Cory, Annsan, Nico,
>Graywolf, Tom Reese, Doug, Mark, Bob, Don, Scott, Charles, Bill and
>Phyllis - the list is endless), and some new ones (Scott, Dave Brooks,
>Dave Savage, Mat, Mark Cassino, Ken Waller, and more - the names swarm
>in my mind). Please forgive me if I have left you out, it must have been
>the Lawnmower Light.
>
>Weather was cool and rainy, with dry spots in between. (Perhaps I should
>go on 'Mastermind' - specialised subject: Stating the Bleeding Obvious).
>The scenery is simply breath-taking and nobody who goes there can fail
>to be overwhelmed by the beauty of the place. Think then of my
>anticipation as I awaited the arrival of a very dear friend who I knew
>at school back in CA in the 1970s. Brian Kavanagh lives near Cincinnati
>and upon hearing of my trip, had decided to drive down to meet me. He
>duly turned up in his bright blue VW bug (too long a trip really for his
>Triumph 900 monster although it would have only been 6 hours instead of
>8...) and we hadn't met in 28 years. It was quite a moment, and we soon
>discovered that we basically were carrying on where we had left off all
>those years ago. To be doing this at GFM was simply the icing on the
>cake. Great to see you guy, and now we'll keep the interim dow

Re: PESO - Windy

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 6/6/2007 12:54:13 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
> Okay, another quick one. Maybe this could be  more  saturated, but the dry 
> grass really does get light, light in the sun.  I  probably won't use this 
unless 
> I don't have enough  images.
> 
> They were  probably too far away, but I sort of  like the layers in this  
one.
> 
>  http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/wind.htm

yeah... I like the  composition in this one.  The layers work and the 
windmills are obvious  on the horizon, yet subtle.

God, wind farms are such a blight on the  landscape.  There is a serious 
proposal to put something like 400 of  them 10 miles off Bethany/Rehobath 
beaches in Delaware.  yuck.
--  

Christian

==
Thanks, Christian.

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Re: housekeeping

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Roberts"
Subject: Re: housekeeping


> 
> Thanks Bill!
> (I hadn't thought of checking in *Bridge* for that.)
> 

Glad I can still be of some use from time to time

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PESO - Two Cities

[Eactivist]

Last night I went up to a hill again. This  time I found one with a great 
view, more than 180 degrees. 

I am thinking  this has potential (for my project) if I can get the B&W 
conversion right.  The clouds also look crooked, although the horizon is not, 
so I 
am thinking of  cutting them out and pasting them back in.

It was late, sun was near to  going down. Do you think it has  potential?

http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/cities.htm

Comments  welcome.

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Re: GFM 2007: My Gallery

[Cotty]

On 7/6/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Didn't get to shoot as much as I would have liked, due to official 
>responsibilities, but I'll be making more photo-specific trips there in 
>the coming year due to a project listguy Doug and I are undertaking.
>
>But here are some snaps I threw together with Web Album Generator:
>http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfm2007/


Fabulous gallery Mark - I wondered if you were shooting me as I was
shooting you - now I know.

BTW, what's the lens you used in the first two, the ultra wide - is it
the 17/4 ?
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Re: OT - recovering files with Linux

[graywolf]

Little imagination? I thing Mr Gates has the same imagination as The Brain, 
"Tomorrow, I am taking over the universe". But even then he is not as strange 
as Mr "I take open source operating systems, clean them up a bit and sue anyone 
who copies it" Jobs.

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P. J. Alling wrote:
> It's actually worse than that.  It's as if J.D. Rockefeller managed to 
> get control of both the Energy and Transportation industries at the same 
> time.  His descendants would be king in all but name today, unless they 
> decided to abolish the federal government and take the titles for 
> themselves.  This is purely evil much the way all bureaucrats become 
> evil when small minds with little imagination gain too much power.
> 
> graywolf wrote:
>> I only skimmed the article. Seems like we are seeing Billy Boys usual screw 
>> the consumer, woo big business attitude taken to extremes. He may have shot 
>> himself in the foot this time. But you and never underestimate the consumers 
>> lack of awareness...
>>
>> I really need to go back to Linux or some form of Unix.
>>
>>   
> 
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Re: Let me brag a bit --OT

[graywolf]

Well, maybe I should give that a try and find out...

OK printing 11 copies of a page, one side only, and timing from when the first 
one hit the tray to the last one hitting the tray (10 copies with nothing else 
being done) was just under 20 second which is 30+ pages per minute. So they 
were not lying. Start up from sleep was about 15 seconds, or about 1/2 minute 
for 11 copies from the time I hit "OK". Definitely faster than the old 
printer... 

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David Mann wrote:
> On Jun 7, 2007, at 3:44 AM, graywolf wrote:
> 
>> The thing is rated at 30 pages a minute. You will have noted that  
>> it only printed 10 pages a minute above. Three reasons for that: 1.  
>> duplex is a lot slower than one sided as the paper path for  
>> printing the second side is a lot longer than it is straight from  
>> the tray. 2. The printer slows down after a couple of minutes,  
>> apparently to keep the heat levels down. 3. They lie!
> 
> IIRC the ppm ratings refer to multiple copies of the same page, so  
> the print engine only needs to render it once.
> 
> Last year we got a cheap Brother HL-2020 which, surprisingly, will  
> quite happily work through a JetDirect box on the network.  I was  
> also surprised at its speed but it does leave a bit of a curl in the  
> paper.  We only have manual duplex though (and only from the Windows  
> machine).
> 
> - Dave
> 
> 

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Re: PESO - Two Cities

[ann sanfedele]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Last night I went up to a hill again. This  time I found one with a great 
>view, more than 180 degrees. 
>
>I am thinking  this has potential (for my project) if I can get the B&W 
>conversion right.  The clouds also look crooked, although the horizon is not, 
>so I 
>am thinking of  cutting them out and pasting them back in.
>
>It was late, sun was near to  going down. Do you think it has  potential?
>
>http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/cities.htm
>
>Comments  welcome.
>
>Marnie aka Doe  
>
>  
>
=

I like your Walnut Creek much better  but the two buildings are so 
ugly that it might do for the "visual pollution" PUG
gallery :) :)

What project is it?  I think overall, though, the image is kinda too 
flat  

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Re: PESO 2007 - 25b, 25c, 25d - GDG

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 6/6/2007 10:53:57 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Three pictures from  Wednesday's explorations in a new site ...

http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/25b.htm
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/25c.htm
http://homepage.mac.com/ramarren/photo/PAW7/25d.htm

Larger versions in  the above pages by clicking on the images.

Comments, critique, and bait  always appreciated.

best,
Godfrey

=
I really like  the first one, although it is hard to tell the fish is a fish. 
The second is  rather nice, but maybe just okay, however, the third looks 
ordinary. On the  whole I like them, but maybe they are too dark or something.

Mixed  reactions here, sorry I can't be clearer.

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Re: housekeeping

[Tom C]

A related question.  How can one regenerate the thumbnails displayed in 
Bridge?  I'm on CS2.

It seems (not sure) that several times when I've opened Bridge and looked at 
a folder that was still being copied to, from the camera CF, that it loses 
it's mind and does not generate all the thumbnails.

I've looked in the menus and Help but have not come across an answer.

Tom C.


>From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 12:07:41 -0600
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Mark Roberts"
>Subject: Re: housekeeping
>
>
> >
> > Thanks Bill!
> > (I hadn't thought of checking in *Bridge* for that.)
> >
>
>Glad I can still be of some use from time to time
>
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Re: PESO - Portrait of Helen

[graywolf]

Isn't that sweet! 

She just sent me an email a couple of days ago.

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> On 6/7/07, Cotty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 7/6/07, Scott Loveless, discombobulated, unleashed:
>>
>>> P.S. - hey, Cotty.  I got Landis' email addy, too!  So there.
>> Brian will be jealous!
> 
> i have it to.:-)
> 
> Dave
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Re: GFM 2007: My Gallery

[Mark Roberts]

Cotty wrote:

>On 7/6/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>Didn't get to shoot as much as I would have liked, due to official 
>>responsibilities, but I'll be making more photo-specific trips there in 
>>the coming year due to a project listguy Doug and I are undertaking.
>>
>>But here are some snaps I threw together with Web Album Generator:
>>http://www.robertstech.com/temp/gfm2007/
>
>Fabulous gallery Mark - I wondered if you were shooting me as I 
>was shooting you - now I know.

Thanks. Funny about the "you shooting me while I was shooting you" 
shot. I notice both our Image-Stabilization/Shake-Reduction systems 
worked well!

>BTW, what's the lens you used in the first two, the ultra wide - is it
>the 17/4 ?

Nope. It's the new 10-17 fisheye zoom. Really fun and much more useful 
than I expected.  In places like those mountains you can hide the 
fisheye distortion pretty well.

I found myself using the 43mm Limited much more than I have before - I 
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Re: PESO - Two Cities

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 6/7/2007 11:56:32 A.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I like your Walnut Creek  much better  but the two buildings are so 
ugly that it might do for  the "visual pollution" PUG
gallery :) :)

What project is it?  I  think overall, though, the image is kinda too 
flat   

ann

==
I know it's too flat, that is the part I am  working on. And, yeah, I am 
looking for ugly. :-) Intersection of Manmade and  Nature in Contra Costa 
County 
(and surrounds). Taking a photography class and we  have to have a "project" 
and the show is in a little over a week. The thing is,  I don't want many of my 
pics to actually be PRETTY. Which makes it a tad  difficult. :-) A few pretty, 
okay. Dramatic, ironic, documentary, etc., but not  necessarily pretty.

I am shooting for about 10-12 pictures. Some will be  two to three in a frame.

Thanks for looking, Marnie aka Doe  :-)

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PESO: Open Space

[Eactivist]

I like this in color too. Wish Lightroom would  get here for my B&W 
conversions, but have to pick out some shots to show  tonight at class.

Again from the top of the hill. I think this shows  nicely how houses here 
can be built right up to an open space boundary. Except,  from high up you 
mainly see the planted trees on streets, rather than the  houses. Though a few 
do 
show. 

I do not actually know what that open  space is, think it is too far from 
Buchanan Airport and Concord Naval Weapons  Station to be either. Still working 
on a B&W conversion and color  version.

http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/openspace.htm

Comments  welcome.

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Re: PESO - Two Cities

[Jack Davis]

Ugly buildings and sun angle haze (suggesting air pollution) may fit
well in your project.
I do think that you may not be able to completely overcome the time of
day haze and its detail cloaking effect.

Jack
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> 
> Last night I went up to a hill again. This  time I found one with a
> great 
> view, more than 180 degrees. 
> 
> I am thinking  this has potential (for my project) if I can get the
> B&W 
> conversion right.  The clouds also look crooked, although the horizon
> is not, so I 
> am thinking of  cutting them out and pasting them back in.
> 
> It was late, sun was near to  going down. Do you think it has 
> potential?
> 
> http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/cities.htm
> 
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> 
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PESO unrelated to that place in North Carolina

[Mark Roberts]

Organizing my photos from GFM I found a shot on the memory card that I 
took about a week earlier when I was in Columbus, Ohio for the 
Photoshop seminar:
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PS CS1 Photomerge

[David J Brooks]

I tried a 3 shot pano last night, on the Mac, and used the auto stitch
in CS. The three photos were all shot in M mode and the exposures look
the same across the board, except when i stitch, i get 2 distinct
lines at about 40 degrees or so coming from the top middle and out to
the far sides of the photo.

Are there a mass of things that need to be set up here, or is auto
merge not a great thing to use.

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Re: PESO - Two Cities

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 6/7/2007 12:07:15 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ugly buildings and sun  angle haze (suggesting air pollution) may fit
well in your project.
I do  think that you may not be able to completely overcome the time of
day haze  and its detail cloaking effect.

Jack

===
Okay, thanks,  Jack. I keep wondering if it's really necessary. Why not flat, 
why not haze? I  mean, well, if not pretty why not not pretty, why not close 
to how it looked?  But maybe that is just me. I think it needs more contrast, 
somehow,  though.

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RE: PESO unrelated to that place in North Carolina

[Tom C]

Good graphic shot, geometry,and composition.


Tom C.


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>Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 15:09:13 -0400 (EDT)
>
>Organizing my photos from GFM I found a shot on the memory card that I
>took about a week earlier when I was in Columbus, Ohio for the
>Photoshop seminar:
>http://www.robertstech.com/temp/temp.htm
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Re: GFM - Report and pics

[Kenneth Waller]

Enjoyed your ramblings and the photos. Good to meet you also.

Kenneth Waller

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Subject: GFM - Report and pics


> After reading the excellent reports published already, there's not much
> to add really. So here's a few random thoughts, in chronological order...
> 
> I really don't like bad turbulence - on a flight. I think I'd rather
> have bad turbulence of the 'I've eaten too much' kind  any day.
> Fortunately everything went to plan and my trip was otherwise good. Nice
> to be back in the USA where nobody gives a shit ;-)
> 
> I learned to drive when I was 15 in California at High School, so I'm
> not shy of left-hookers. However, piloting a 25 foot camper in the
> evening rush hour on the Beltway between the 66 and the 270 near DC was
> akin to having bamboo inserted up the fingernails. Luckily I got that
> hang of it and was soon cutting up all the mo-fos that had cut me up.
> The maxim 'give way to larger vehicle' does actually work.
> 
> I drove to Germantown and met up with Christian. Great to see you again
> mate. We popped out for dinner to the Dogfish Brewery where loud waiters
> proclaimed their undying love for our occupancy of their table,
> repeatedly offered deals and sweeteners, swung by constantly in case
> there was anything we needed. "Hi. I'm Carl and I'll be guiding you on
> your journey..."  I'm British. I'm used to being ignored in restaurants.
> 
> We had beer. Well, it was between 9 and 18 percent and was served in
> brandy glasses, but they said it was beer. I found a 3.5% called
> Lawnmower Light and struggled not to ask what was in it. At least I
> could chug it down to combat temps in the 80s F and high humidity.
> Cesar, Stehen Moore, and long-time ex-lister Tom Van Veen (tv) joined us
> and so we sat and laughed at Christian's haircut all evening. I had a
> good time, thanks guys.
> 
> Christian and his wife Kerry were perfect hosts for my pre-GFM sojourn,
> and despite my protests gave up their bed for me. This was above and
> beyond the call, but I relented and slept like a baby: I kept waking up
> and was sick everywhere.
> 
> Christian was amused when I poured sugar on my Weetabix the next
> morning. Dude - California in the 70s, I keep telling ya! Cesar joined
> us for coffee and we sat on Christian's back porch where birds of every
> kind flew in for a nibble, Christian's Darkside 500/4 at the ready. That
> guy has a good eye for the birds.
> 
> Cesar thoughtfully brought some ballast for the RV: 12 bags of gear. Why
> strain with indecision when there's all that room, right mate? After
> saying ta ta to Christian, we hit the morning rush hour traffic on the
> Beltway again. I don't think my driving had that bad an effect on Cesar.
> He was very quiet for the first few minutes, until I realised I was
> supposed to keep *between* the dashed white lines.
> 
> 9 hours and several stops later we reached GFM about 6.30pm and met up
> with the occupants of PDML West (Cory's camper). Thanks for all the help
> setting up things like shore-lines etc (these campers are so big they
> have to be moored). Non-lister Bruce Metcalf waltzed over from his RV
> and insisted I borrow some levelling chocks for the rental RV. This
> theme of helping out set the tone for the whole weekend and people would
> simply come up to you and give you things. Being a Brit, I would just go
> up to people and apologise.
> 
> This was Thusday, and so folk were slowly making their way up to the
> mountain. Great to see old friends once again (Cory, Annsan, Nico,
> Graywolf, Tom Reese, Doug, Mark, Bob, Don, Scott, Charles, Bill and
> Phyllis - the list is endless), and some new ones (Scott, Dave Brooks,
> Dave Savage, Mat, Mark Cassino, Ken Waller, and more - the names swarm
> in my mind). Please forgive me if I have left you out, it must have been
> the Lawnmower Light.
> 
> Weather was cool and rainy, with dry spots in between. (Perhaps I should
> go on 'Mastermind' - specialised subject: Stating the Bleeding Obvious).
> The scenery is simply breath-taking and nobody who goes there can fail
> to be overwhelmed by the beauty of the place. Think then of my
> anticipation as I awaited the arrival of a very dear friend who I knew
> at school back in CA in the 1970s. Brian Kavanagh lives near Cincinnati
> and upon hearing of my trip, had decided to drive down to meet me. He
> duly turned up in his bright blue VW bug (too long a trip really for his
> Triumph 900 monster although it would have only been 6 hours instead of
> 8...) and we hadn't met in 28 years. It was quite a moment, and we soon
> discovered that we basically were carrying on where we had left off all
> those years ago. To be doing this at GFM was simply the icing on the
> cake. Great to see you guy, and now we'll keep the interim down to
> years, not decades!
> 
> Saturday saw us hiking up GFM, huffing and puffing in Mark's dust as he
> rocketed up the mountain with a respectable 

Re: PESO: Open Space

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Jun 7, 2007, at 11:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I like this in color too. Wish Lightroom would  get here for my B&W
> conversions, but have to pick out some shots to show  tonight at  
> class.

Why don't you just go to the Adobe website, download the Lightroom  
free trial and then register it when your box copy arrives? It is  
exactly the same. You'd have it in ten minutes.

> http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/openspace.htm

This is nice but a little static for my taste.

Godfrey

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Re: PESO unrelated to that place in North Carolina

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Beautiful tones and composition in that one, Mark!

Godfrey

On Jun 7, 2007, at 12:09 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> Organizing my photos from GFM I found a shot on the memory card that I
> took about a week earlier when I was in Columbus, Ohio for the
> Photoshop seminar:
> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/temp.htm


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Re: PS CS1 Photomerge

[Mark Roberts]

David J Brooks wrote:

>I tried a 3 shot pano last night, on the Mac, and used the auto stitch
>in CS. The three photos were all shot in M mode and the exposures look
>the same across the board, except when i stitch, i get 2 distinct
>lines at about 40 degrees or so coming from the top middle and out to
>the far sides of the photo.
>
>Are there a mass of things that need to be set up here, or is auto
>merge not a great thing to use.

Photo Merge in CS2 sucks. Photo Merge in CS was even worse.

Try:
PanoStitcher http://www.pixtra.com/index.htm - $29.95
Panorama Maker http://arcsoft.com/product_tracker.asp?softwareid=7 - 
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Re: housekeeping

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Set Bridge to use a distributed cache.

Quit Bridge, go to the directory you want to have it reprocess,  
delete the two files it makes ...
Adobe Bridge Cache.bc
Adobe Bridge Cache.bct
... then restart Bridge. It will reprocess the folder in its entirety.

Otherwise, when you have the Folders panel frontmost in the sidebar,  
there is a menu at the top with a Refresh command. This sometimes  
works. ;-)

G


On Jun 7, 2007, at 11:55 AM, Tom C wrote:

> A related question.  How can one regenerate the thumbnails  
> displayed in
> Bridge?  I'm on CS2.
>
> It seems (not sure) that several times when I've opened Bridge and  
> looked at
> a folder that was still being copied to, from the camera CF, that  
> it loses
> it's mind and does not generate all the thumbnails.
>
> I've looked in the menus and Help but have not come across an answer.


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Re: GFM 2007: My Gallery

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

On Jun 7, 2007, at 11:58 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> ... I found myself using the 43mm Limited much more than I have  
> before - I
> think it was my most used lens of the weekend. The more I use it the
> more I like it.

My DA21 and FA43 are the two lenses that are getting the most use  
with the K10D in the past two months...

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Re: GFM 2007: My Gallery

[Cotty]

On 7/6/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>I notice both our Image-Stabilization/Shake-Reduction systems 
>worked well!


yeah but you were walking in faith and I wasn't  ;-))



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Re: GFM 2007: My Gallery

[Cotty]

On 7/6/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>Nope. It's the new 10-17 fisheye zoom. Really fun and much more useful 
>than I expected.  In places like those mountains you can hide the 
>fisheye distortion pretty well.

Wow - nice lens. Remember I sold Albano Garcia's 17/4 for him, musty be
6 or 7 years ago? He sent it to me and I eBayed it, sending him cahs to
Argentina hidden in a mutli-layered envelope full of prints to get past
corrupt postal workers.

I played with it before eBay and it was the one lens I could get excited
about. It rocked.

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Re: GFM 2007: My Gallery

[Mark Roberts]

Cotty wrote:

>On 7/6/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
>>I notice both our Image-Stabilization/Shake-Reduction systems 
>>worked well!
>
>yeah but you were walking in faith and I wasn't  ;-))

No more than with predictive AF and autoexposure.
Extensive tells me they work and the indicator in the viewfinder tells 
me when we're go.


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Re: PESO: Open Space

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 6/7/2007 12:48:43 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Why don't you just go to the  Adobe website, download the Lightroom  
free trial and then register it  when your box copy arrives? It is  
exactly the same. You'd have it in  ten minutes.

>  http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/openspace.htm

This is nice  but a little static for my taste.

Godfrey
===
Huh. That's  an idea. Thanks, Godfrey.

Point taken -- hard not to do long distance  shots static, such is life.

Marnie aka Doe :-)  Oops, maybe I can't,  I already did the trial  thing.

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Re: PESO unrelated to that place in North Carolina

[Cotty]

On 7/6/07, Mark Roberts, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Organizing my photos from GFM I found a shot on the memory card that I 
>took about a week earlier when I was in Columbus, Ohio for the 
>Photoshop seminar:
>http://www.robertstech.com/temp/temp.htm

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Re: PS CS1 Photomerge

[Mark Roberts]

Kenneth Waller wrote:

>Dave I use Panoramamaker & can recommend it.

Oh yeah. That's the one I use as well. :)
My 22 x 36 GFM print was done with Panorama Maker 3.




>From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>Subject: Re: PS CS1 Photomerge
>
>
>> David J Brooks wrote:
>> 
>>>I tried a 3 shot pano last night, on the Mac, and used the auto stitch
>>>in CS. The three photos were all shot in M mode and the exposures look
>>>the same across the board, except when i stitch, i get 2 distinct
>>>lines at about 40 degrees or so coming from the top middle and out to
>>>the far sides of the photo.
>>>
>>>Are there a mass of things that need to be set up here, or is auto
>>>merge not a great thing to use.
>> 
>> Photo Merge in CS2 sucks. Photo Merge in CS was even worse.
>> 
>> Try:
>> PanoStitcher http://www.pixtra.com/index.htm - $29.95
>> Panorama Maker http://arcsoft.com/product_tracker.asp?softwareid=7 - 
>> $39.95
>> 
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Re: PESO unrelated to that place in North Carolina

[Mark Roberts]

Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

>On Jun 7, 2007, at 12:09 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>
>> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/temp.htm
>
>Beautiful tones and composition in that one, Mark!

Thanks! A bit of Photoshopping involved: Perspective correction and the 
usual levels/curves/etc. to get the tonality roughly where I wanted it. 

Then I made a duplicate layer, applied "Find Edges", inverted the 
result and faded its opacity down to 16%. I've used this technique with 
much higher opacity for extreme effects, but I like the fairly subtle 
"zip" it adds to this image at a low opacity setting.


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Re: PS CS1 Photomerge

[Kenneth Waller]

Dave I use Panoramamaker & can recommend it.
Very easy to use with excellent results, for me.

Kenneth Waller

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From: "Mark Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Subject: Re: PS CS1 Photomerge


> David J Brooks wrote:
> 
>>I tried a 3 shot pano last night, on the Mac, and used the auto stitch
>>in CS. The three photos were all shot in M mode and the exposures look
>>the same across the board, except when i stitch, i get 2 distinct
>>lines at about 40 degrees or so coming from the top middle and out to
>>the far sides of the photo.
>>
>>Are there a mass of things that need to be set up here, or is auto
>>merge not a great thing to use.
> 
> Photo Merge in CS2 sucks. Photo Merge in CS was even worse.
> 
> Try:
> PanoStitcher http://www.pixtra.com/index.htm - $29.95
> Panorama Maker http://arcsoft.com/product_tracker.asp?softwareid=7 - 
> $39.95
> 
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Re: housekeeping

[Tom C]

Thanks.  I couldn't get the Refresh command to do anything at all.

I selected the Purge Central Cache command, and it decided it needed to 
automatically regenerate the thumbnails.


Tom C.


>From: Godfrey DiGiorgi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List 
>Subject: Re: housekeeping
>Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2007 12:46:02 -0700
>
>Set Bridge to use a distributed cache.
>
>Quit Bridge, go to the directory you want to have it reprocess,
>delete the two files it makes ...
>Adobe Bridge Cache.bc
>Adobe Bridge Cache.bct
>... then restart Bridge. It will reprocess the folder in its entirety.
>
>Otherwise, when you have the Folders panel frontmost in the sidebar,
>there is a menu at the top with a Refresh command. This sometimes
>works. ;-)
>
>G
>
>
>On Jun 7, 2007, at 11:55 AM, Tom C wrote:
>
> > A related question.  How can one regenerate the thumbnails
> > displayed in
> > Bridge?  I'm on CS2.
> >
> > It seems (not sure) that several times when I've opened Bridge and
> > looked at
> > a folder that was still being copied to, from the camera CF, that
> > it loses
> > it's mind and does not generate all the thumbnails.
> >
> > I've looked in the menus and Help but have not come across an answer.
>
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PESO - Spring Marsh

[Tom C]

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6060740



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PESO - Bottles of Yesteryear

[Tom C]

http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6060712&size=lg


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Re: PS CS1 Photomerge

[Toine]

CS3 photomerge should work fine. I use panoramafactory and ptgui.
Panoramafactory is very easy to use and includes tools for finetuning
the result. If you want total control you need ptgui.


On 6/7/07, David J Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I tried a 3 shot pano last night, on the Mac, and used the auto stitch
> in CS. The three photos were all shot in M mode and the exposures look
> the same across the board, except when i stitch, i get 2 distinct
> lines at about 40 degrees or so coming from the top middle and out to
> the far sides of the photo.
>
> Are there a mass of things that need to be set up here, or is auto
> merge not a great thing to use.
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Re: PESO unrelated to that place in North Carolina

[Kenneth Waller]

I like it.

The side lighting really adds to an already good capture.

Kenneth Waller

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> Organizing my photos from GFM I found a shot on the memory card that I 
> took about a week earlier when I was in Columbus, Ohio for the 
> Photoshop seminar:
> http://www.robertstech.com/temp/temp.htm


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Re: PESO - Bottles of Yesteryear

[pnstenquist]

Excellent. A great concept, well executed. 
Paul
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PESO: Another Tree On The Hill

[Eactivist]

Still not quite what I want, but getting  closer.

http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/atron.htm

That's  it for today, and probably the next few days. Thanks for bearing  
with.

Comments welcome.

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Re: Another Tree On The Hill

[Kenneth Waller]

Well done.

A very minor nit is the proximity of the LH tree branch to the LH edge. Give 
it some more room if you can.

Kenneth Waller

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Subject: PESO: Another Tree On The Hill


> Still not quite what I want, but getting  closer.
>
> http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/atron.htm
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> Comments welcome.
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Re: PESO - Spring Marsh

[Kenneth Waller]

A different take on a common subject. I especially like the new green growth 
with the old green.

A second image I see in this one is obtained by totally cropping out the 
reeds in the lower RH corner - a very minimalist image.

Kenneth Waller

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Subject: PESO - Spring Marsh


> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6060740
>
>
>
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Re: PESO: Open Space

[Jack Davis]

Yes, I expect that a color version would tend to de-homogenize the
trees and result in a bit more interest.

Jack
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> I like this in color too. Wish Lightroom would  get here for my B&W 
> conversions, but have to pick out some shots to show  tonight at
> class.
> 
> Again from the top of the hill. I think this shows  nicely how houses
> here 
> can be built right up to an open space boundary. Except,  from high
> up you 
> mainly see the planted trees on streets, rather than the  houses.
> Though a few do 
> show. 
> 
> I do not actually know what that open  space is, think it is too far
> from 
> Buchanan Airport and Concord Naval Weapons  Station to be either.
> Still working 
> on a B&W conversion and color  version.
> 
> http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/openspace.htm
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> Comments  welcome.
> 
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Re: PESO: Open Space

[Mark Roberts]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I like this in color too. Wish Lightroom would  get here for my 
>B&W conversions

Have you tried the BW-Plus plug-in for Photoshop? It's free and very 
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Re: PESO - Two Cities

[Eactivist]

Anyone would looked at this before, and has the  time, might look at it 
again. 

Still working on it, has some  oversharpened bits, but see if you like this  
better...

http://members.aol.com/eactivist/PAWS/pages/cities.htm

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Re: PESO: Open Space

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 6/7/2007 2:12:32 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yes, I expect that a color version  would tend to de-homogenize the
trees and result in a bit more  interest.

Jack


Problem is getting it contrasty  enough without being too. Still working on 
it. Also a bit easier to see the  houses in the color version.

Thanks for looking, Marnie aka Doe  

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Re: PESO: Another Tree On The Hill

[Jack Davis]

Like it, largely due to the composition.

Jack
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> 
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> with.
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> 
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Re: PESO - Bottles of Yesteryear

[Kenneth Waller]

Good eye Tom - well seen & captured.
Really conveys old.

Kenneth Waller

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Subject: PESO - Bottles of Yesteryear


> http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=6060712&size=lg
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Re: PESO - Two Cities

[Jack Davis]

That's actually what I meant. Certainly, use the haze to make your
point. I gather you also feel as I do that even if you wanted to, the
haze may be difficult to overcome and in addition, I see no reason for
you to fight it.

Jack
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> In a message dated 6/7/2007 12:07:15 P.M.  Pacific Daylight Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Ugly buildings and sun  angle haze (suggesting air pollution) may fit
> well in your project.
> I do  think that you may not be able to completely overcome the time
> of
> day haze  and its detail cloaking effect.
> 
> Jack
> 
> ===
> Okay, thanks,  Jack. I keep wondering if it's really necessary. Why
> not flat, 
> why not haze? I  mean, well, if not pretty why not not pretty, why
> not close 
> to how it looked?  But maybe that is just me. I think it needs more
> contrast, 
> somehow,  though.
> 
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Re: Another Tree On The Hill

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 6/7/2007 2:09:46 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well done.

A very minor  nit is the proximity of the LH tree branch to the LH edge. Give 
it some more  room if you can.

Kenneth Waller
===


Okay, I  cropped it so I could. Thanks, Ken.

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Re: PESO - Two Cities

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 6/7/2007 2:23:24 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
That's actually what I meant.  Certainly, use the haze to make your
point. I gather you also feel as I do  that even if you wanted to, the
haze may be difficult to overcome and in  addition, I see no reason for
you to fight  it.

Jack

==
Aha, well emphasized it. New version up.  Thanks also Another Tree on The 
Hill.

Saving bandwidth.

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Re: PESO: Open Space

[Eactivist]

In a message dated 6/7/2007 2:19:22 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Have you tried the BW-Plus plug-in  for Photoshop? It's free and very  
useful.
http://www.cybia.co.uk/bwplus.htm

==
Thanks, I  have CS (1) and that is for 2 or 3, otherwise I would. I've tried. 
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Computer help!

[npx]

My computer is fracked up again, though this time I've been able to at least 
recover my data with relative ease.

I really need help: my computer won't boot.

It's a Dell Precision 650 (I think) dual-Xeon workstation, running Windows 
Vista Ultimate for about a week now.  It's a few years old, but it's more 
powerful than anything new I've tried lately.  I bought it used from my old 
boss last December.  It never had problems while I was using it at work for two 
years, nor after I brought it home, until I started playing games on it 
(specifically GTA San Andreas and Star Wars Battlefront II).  A little over two 
weeks ago, my hard drive became inaccessible and I didn't have the original 
Windows XP disk, so I had to scrap everything and buy a new OS and hard drive.  
Vista has been a dream until two days ago.

At the point in the boot cycle where the BIOS is done and Windows is supposed 
to start, nothing happens.  The screen is blank and a cursor smugly blinks away 
in the upper left corner.  I've tried using the restore options on the Windows 
Vista disk, but to no avail (it says there's nothing wrong with my install of 
Vista, and restoring the system to a previous date doesn't fix anything 
either).  I used an old Norton SystemWorks disk to run their equivalent of Disk 
Check, where it found some sort of "security descriptors" problem and fixed it, 
but the system still won't boot.  I'm beginning to think this is a hardware 
issue unrelated to the hard drive, but I don't know how to find and solve the 
problem.

Also, since this is a used computer, I don't know how to get access to Dell's 
BIOS drivers and related software in case there are updates and whatnot.

If anyone has any ideas on things I can try or where I might find drivers and 
such, please let me know.  I'm getting desperate here: I just want a stable 
computer!

Oh, please don't throw some "Switch to Mac/Linux/abacus" balloney at me.  Aside 
from the fact that I can't afford anything new, I actually like Windows and 
don't think the OS is the issue here.

Thanks,
John

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OT How to make a Triumph

[mike wilson]

For all the cyclemotorists amongst us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKEuzxC4eGc

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