Re: What lens would you like Pentax to make?

2011-08-29 Thread Joseph McAllister
Ya know, Mark gets money from Pentax for these surveys…

Ask for your share!

On Aug 29, 2011, at 16:56 , Paul Stenquist wrote:
> On Aug 29, 2011, at 7:23 PM, steve harley wrote:
> 
>> On 2011-08-29 15:37 , DagT wrote:
>>> Still hoping for a DA*35 1.4 and DA*20 2.0 to match the DA55 1.4...
>> 
>> those would suit me too; best if they were compact too
> 
> If they're that fast, they won't be compact. It's a matter of physics.
> Paul

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Re: Irene

2011-08-29 Thread Joseph McAllister
We in Seattle and down in San Francisco will be counting on your first 
responders when the big ones hit out here. And it will come. AND, the media 
won't know about it beforehand. Well, except for the Tsunami. They'll have 6-15 
minutes to talk about that.

It's one of the reasons I choose to live in a wood frame house 68' above mean 
sea level. 170 miles from the Pacific and 250 from the nearest subduction zone. 
1000 yards from the nearest river (which is tidal where I live, near Puget 
Sound). It is less expensive than having to pay for flood and earthquake 
insurance.


On Aug 29, 2011, at 19:08 , Stan Halpin wrote:

> I keep thinking of Agnes, 1972. Not much of a storm, but it just kept pumping 
> rain into the mid-atlantic states to as far north as the southern Finger 
> Lakes. My uncle (home builder) was overwhelmed with work for the next two 
> years in Cortland NY. Extensive flood damage, entire neighborhoods wiped out. 
> Virginia, WVa, Maryland, and Pennsylvania all got it bad.
> 
> stan
> 
> On Aug 29, 2011, at 8:42 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote:
> 
>> Here on the coast just south of Boston, we did pretty well.
>> Interesting that we knew to expect more wind damage than water, being
>> on the eastern side of the storm.  But there's minimal damage to
>> property, no flooding to speak of.  Many neighboring towns are still
>> without power, and will be for days, but we only had a couple of very
>> brief interruptions yesterday.  What surprised me most is the toll
>> that the storm took in Vermont.  Major flooding, damage to homes,
>> towns, roadways, bridges...  I'm not sure anyone expected that extent
>> of destruction up there, being an inland state especially.
>> 
>> Today was as beautiful a day as we've had all summer, though.
>> 
>> :)
>> -c

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Totally off topic query

2011-08-29 Thread Boris Liberman

Hello there.

If any of you practices GTD with the help of TiddlyWiki, please contact 
me off list, 'cause I'd like to learn from you the good tricks.


Thanks.

Boris

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Pink Hot Rod

2011-08-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=main&webtag=djm1963&entry=121

Comments Welcome

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Re: PAW86 - Passing

2011-08-29 Thread Eactivist
Made me chuckle.

Marnie the akaless  :-)

In a message dated 8/28/2011 1:40:03 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
li...@thrane.name writes:
Have been preparing the apartment for sale all week  so I have to use 
another old  one...

http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
K-5,  DA14mm, 1/30s, f/7.1, ISO100.

DagT
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Re: GESO - Aerial Photography, Lake Eyre and Painted Hills

2011-08-29 Thread Eactivist
Oh, wow, those are lovely.

I like them  all (well, except for the last), but I especially like #1, #3, 
#6, #7, and #11.  (Think I counted right.)

Thanks for sharing, I love geology shots AND  well done aerial photographs. 

Marnie the akaless :-) 

In a  message dated 8/28/2011 6:50:18 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
danmaty...@gmail.com  writes:
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Brian Walters   
wrote:
> Hi all
>
> First -  thanks again to those who provided advice a month or so ago on
>  photographing from a light plane.  This flight was part of our  recent
> trip to the 'red Centre' of Australia.
>
> The flight  was in a Cessna 210, carrying 4 passengers plus the pilot.
> The lack of  wing struts on this plane was a bonus for photography.  The
> two  biggest problems were reflections in the windows, which were
> difficult  to avoid, and the mild jerkiness of the flight.  I used my
> K200D  with the 16-45 mm zoom attached.  I had other lenses available but
>  the cramped conditions made it difficult to change lenses, so I
>  eventually gave up on the idea.  As it happened, the 16-45 mm range
>  proved to be pretty much ideal.  My wife used an old Optio for the  first
> part of the flight but it wasn't up to the job so she commandeered  the
> *istDS with 50 mm f1.7 FA attached for the second half.  Both  of us shot
> in shutter priority mode with the speed set to 1/350 - 1/500  sec.
>
> I hope you enjoy this small selection:
>
>  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Lake-Eyre/index.html  


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Re: PESO: A Breeze in the Pasture

2011-08-29 Thread Walt Gilbert

Thanks, Marnie!

I was kind of disappointed to see that, too.  There wasn't much I could 
do to avoid it, as she was coming right at me and it was all I could do 
to keep her in focus.  But, I just couldn't pitch it.  I was too pleased 
with the fact that she was still in the focal plane by the time I hit 
the shutter.


She's one of those horses that are difficult to photograph because she 
likes people enough to just trot right up to strangers.  I'll get 
another shot at her one day, and hopefully will be a little quicker on 
the shutter.  :-)


-- Walt

On 8/29/2011 10:55 PM, eactiv...@aol.com wrote:

Very nice, but bothers me the foot is chopped  off at the bottom. While
Christine's petal didn't bother me, this does. Had a  teacher once who insisted
animals should not have appendages chopped off (if  shot full body),
because it would bother our eyes in a completion kind  of way. (He said it 
better,
but forget how.)

I tend to agree with him.  Other than that, I like it.

HTH, Marnie :-)

In a message dated  8/29/2011 7:12:03 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
ldott...@gmail.com writes:
Hi  all,

I saw some horses out in the pasture across the street from my home
today and figured I might as well amble over there with the camera
before I send it off to see what it's going to set me back to have the
delaminating viewfinder replaced.  Once again, it's the K 50/1.4 on the
K-x -- ISO 100, f/4,  1/1500.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6095298648/

Comments,  critiques and free Zeiss primes happily accepted.

Thanks!

-- Walt





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Re: PESO - Fishy Falls

2011-08-29 Thread Eactivist
Interesting shot, not sure I totally like it, a  bit hard to pull it all 
together visually, but quite interesting.

Marnie  the akaless :-)

In a message dated 8/29/2011 8:44:28 P.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
christ...@caguila.com writes:
On Aug 28, 2011, at 8:02 PM,  Rick Womer wrote:

> We took a trip to Toronto, via Rochester and  Niagara Falls, in May.  
Here is a fisheye view of the falls from the  Canadian side:
> 
>  http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14104715&size=lg
> 
>  K7, DA 10-17
> 
> Rick  


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Re: PESO: A Breeze in the Pasture

2011-08-29 Thread Eactivist
Very nice, but bothers me the foot is chopped  off at the bottom. While 
Christine's petal didn't bother me, this does. Had a  teacher once who insisted 
animals should not have appendages chopped off (if  shot full body), 
because it would bother our eyes in a completion kind  of way. (He said it 
better, 
but forget how.)

I tend to agree with him.  Other than that, I like it.

HTH, Marnie :-)

In a message dated  8/29/2011 7:12:03 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
ldott...@gmail.com writes:
Hi  all,

I saw some horses out in the pasture across the street from my home  
today and figured I might as well amble over there with the camera  
before I send it off to see what it's going to set me back to have the  
delaminating viewfinder replaced.  Once again, it's the K 50/1.4 on the  
K-x -- ISO 100, f/4,  1/1500.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6095298648/

Comments,  critiques and free Zeiss primes happily accepted.

Thanks!

-- Walt  


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Re: What lens would you like Pentax to make?

2011-08-29 Thread Doug Brewer

On 8/29/11 3:03 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

I just realized that it's been literally years (two or more) since I
bought a pentax lens. The fact is, I have pretty much everything I
need - the 50-135 and 60-250 are interesting, but not enough to make
my break out my credit card (the FA*80-200/2.8 works fine for me).

But one thing I *would* buy in a heartbeat would be a weather-sealed
12-24 (or wider) ultrawide.




one that would compensate for my lack of talent.

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Re: PESO: Gluten Free Menu

2011-08-29 Thread Christine Aguila
Very funny, Dan!  Cheers, Christine


On Aug 29, 2011, at 4:49 PM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

> http://blogs.delphiforums.com/n/blogs/blog.aspx?nav=main&webtag=djm1963&entry=120
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> Comments Welcome
> 
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Re: PESO - Fishy Falls

2011-08-29 Thread Christine Aguila
Wow!  That's an intriguing photo, Rick.  I find the rock in shadow lower right 
of frame a bit distracting, but still--very cool concept and execution overall. 
 Cheers, Christine


On Aug 28, 2011, at 8:02 PM, Rick Womer wrote:

> We took a trip to Toronto, via Rochester and Niagara Falls, in May.  Here is 
> a fisheye view of the falls from the Canadian side:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14104715&size=lg
> 
> K7, DA 10-17
> 
> Rick
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Re: PAW86 - Passing

2011-08-29 Thread Christine Aguila
Love it!  Reminds me a little bit of my Beach Feet.  Good luck with the 
apartment sale.  Cheers, Christine


On Aug 28, 2011, at 3:39 PM, DagT wrote:

> Have been preparing the apartment for sale all week so I have to use another 
> old one...
> 
> http://www.thrane.name/Pictures/PAW/files/page7-1000-full.html
> K-5, DA14mm, 1/30s, f/7.1, ISO100.
> 
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Re: PAW--Week 34--Sunflower

2011-08-29 Thread Christine Aguila
Thanks Jack, Dave, Rick, Ann, Paul, and Marnie!

Ken:  Fair point about the top petal-bit of sloppy cropping there.  Interesting 
about the bright spot--Darrel (my husband) & I had a conversation about it, and 
Darrel thought it was interesting and added to the composition, so I went with 
it.  Husbands, go figure :-).  I might tone it down a bit.  I actually 
eliminated a bright spot lower right of frame with the exposure brush in 
Lightroom 3, and it worked really well--so well I eliminated it entirely.  It's 
a lot easier to use that feature with my new iMac and Lightroom 3--didn't work 
so well for me on my computer that just died.  As to the desaturation--well, 
it's really just a reflection of the mood I was in at the time combined with a 
fair weather loyalty to reality  :-).   Big cheers, Christine



 
On Aug 28, 2011, at 3:39 PM, Ken Waller wrote:

> Christine, several things jump out to me with your sunflower - YMMV
> 
> The mostly centered composition is ok but the proximity of the petals to the 
> top edge draws my eye away from the subject - you need more space at the top 
> above the image - it would appear more of a crafted image as opposed to a 
> snap - which this image isn't.
> 
> The bright spot at around the 7 o'clock position is unfortunate.
> 
> But mostly I don't get the desaturation of the colors.
> 
> Just my $.02 s worth.
> 
> Kenneth Waller
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Christine Aguila" 
> Subject: PAW--Week 34--Sunflower
> 
> 
>> It's amazing to think that I only have 18 weeks left!  Where did the time 
>> go?  Cheers, Christine
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Re: Irene and P.J.

2011-08-29 Thread Walt Gilbert

Ugh.  :-\

At least the forecast there looks pretty amenable.

http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/hdfForecast?query=Madison%2C+CT

They'll be covered up with electrical workers from all over the eastern 
seaboard in the next two days, I'm sure.


On 8/29/2011 10:14 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
I found a map (after that article) that showed 81 to 100% of power was 
out where he is :-(




On 8/29/2011 23:11, Walt Gilbert wrote:

Heard on the news there were about 300,000 without power in CT. I hope
the weather hasn't been too bad since she passed over.

-- Walt

On 8/29/2011 10:04 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:


I had email from him on Saturday...
then noticed he had not posted yesterday or today


(Madison, Ct is where he lives or lat least gets his mail)

http://madison-ct.patch.com/articles/how-to-report-power-outages-downed-lines-water-service-outages 




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Re: What lens would you like Pentax to make?

2011-08-29 Thread Fernando
I've been shooting with a K24/2.8 for a full year, last year. I like
the 35mm EFV, so I would like a Limited pancake DA24/4. I switched
back to the DA21 this year because I was tired of guesstimating
exposures -good exercise nonetheless.

Other than that, the usual: bring back the *200/4 macro and I'll buy
it even if I need to sell anything, and some fast glass would be nice,
some 20/2, 30/1.4, or 35/1.4 those can be big, but sharp wide open. A
mark II of the 16-50/2.8 would be nice as well.

On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 3:03 PM, Mark Roberts  wrote:
> I just realized that it's been literally years (two or more) since I
> bought a pentax lens. The fact is, I have pretty much everything I
> need - the 50-135 and 60-250 are interesting, but not enough to make
> my break out my credit card (the FA*80-200/2.8 works fine for me).
>
> But one thing I *would* buy in a heartbeat would be a weather-sealed
> 12-24 (or wider) ultrawide.
>
>
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Re: Irene and P.J.

2011-08-29 Thread Ann Sanfedele
I found a map (after that article) that showed 81 to 100% of power was 
out where he is :-(




On 8/29/2011 23:11, Walt Gilbert wrote:

Heard on the news there were about 300,000 without power in CT. I hope
the weather hasn't been too bad since she passed over.

-- Walt

On 8/29/2011 10:04 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:


I had email from him on Saturday...
then noticed he had not posted yesterday or today


(Madison, Ct is where he lives or lat least gets his mail)

http://madison-ct.patch.com/articles/how-to-report-power-outages-downed-lines-water-service-outages


ann






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Re: Irene and P.J.

2011-08-29 Thread Walt Gilbert
Heard on the news there were about 300,000 without power in CT.  I hope 
the weather hasn't been too bad since she passed over.


-- Walt

On 8/29/2011 10:04 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:


I had email from him on Saturday...
then noticed he had not posted yesterday or today


(Madison, Ct is where he lives or lat least gets his mail)

http://madison-ct.patch.com/articles/how-to-report-power-outages-downed-lines-water-service-outages 



ann




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Irene and P.J.

2011-08-29 Thread Ann Sanfedele


I had email from him on Saturday...
then noticed he had not posted yesterday or today


(Madison, Ct is where he lives or lat least gets his mail)

http://madison-ct.patch.com/articles/how-to-report-power-outages-downed-lines-water-service-outages

ann

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Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up

2011-08-29 Thread mike wilson

On 29/08/2011 22:19, Scott Loveless wrote:

On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Bob W  wrote:

From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
mike wilson



Not where I've been on holiday. Headline in the local press last week:
"Burning man seen running from scene of arson attack".


were the police in hot pusuit?


I'd be alarmed if they weren't.

The only warm scent they would be interested in would be the one coming 
from the doughnut shop.


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PESO: A Breeze in the Pasture

2011-08-29 Thread Walt Gilbert

Hi all,

I saw some horses out in the pasture across the street from my home 
today and figured I might as well amble over there with the camera 
before I send it off to see what it's going to set me back to have the 
delaminating viewfinder replaced.  Once again, it's the K 50/1.4 on the 
K-x -- ISO 100, f/4, 1/1500.


http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6095298648/

Comments, critiques and free Zeiss primes happily accepted.

Thanks!

-- Walt

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Re: Irene

2011-08-29 Thread Stan Halpin
I keep thinking of Agnes, 1972. Not much of a storm, but it just kept pumping 
rain into the mid-atlantic states to as far north as the southern Finger Lakes. 
My uncle (home builder) was overwhelmed with work for the next two years in 
Cortland NY. Extensive flood damage, entire neighborhoods wiped out. Virginia, 
WVa, Maryland, and Pennsylvania all got it bad.

stan
 
On Aug 29, 2011, at 8:42 PM, Christine Nielsen wrote:

> Here on the coast just south of Boston, we did pretty well.
> Interesting that we knew to expect more wind damage than water, being
> on the eastern side of the storm.  But there's minimal damage to
> property, no flooding to speak of.  Many neighboring towns are still
> without power, and will be for days, but we only had a couple of very
> brief interruptions yesterday.  What surprised me most is the toll
> that the storm took in Vermont.  Major flooding, damage to homes,
> towns, roadways, bridges...  I'm not sure anyone expected that extent
> of destruction up there, being an inland state especially.
> 
> Today was as beautiful a day as we've had all summer, though.
> 
> :)
> -c
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Daniel J. Matyola
>  wrote:
>> I spoke too soon yesterday.
>> 
>> Shortly after 6:00 last night, our power started going on and off
>> again, every few minutes.  Just as we were starting to prepare dinner,
>> the power went out.  The Stove wouldn't light, so we had an unplanned
>> barbecue.  It is still out at home, but we have power here in the
>> office.
>> 
>> There is still flooding in this area.  A portion of Readington Road
>> (County Route 637), which is my access to US 22, buckled because it
>> was undercut by flood waters.  One lane was open, and construction was
>> under way, and I made it into Somerville without incident or delay.
>> 
>> The Somerset County Court House is closed, as are others throughout
>> the state.  We are still is a mess, with lost of closed and flooded
>> roads.  The apartment building a few hundred yards from our office was
>> evacuated, and is still closed.
>> 
>> This storm -- and the warnings -- were never about wind velocity.  It
>> was always a question of the amount of water and the coastal and river
>> flooding.  That has proved quite damaging in New Jersey, at least.  A
>> lot of people have been evacuated and still cant return.  A
>> substantial percentage of the homes are still out of power.  Roads are
>> still closed because of flooding and flood damage.  The rivers are
>> still rising in parts of the state.
>> 
>> The warnings were appropriate.
>> 
>> Dan
>> Dan Matyola
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 8/29/2011 04:27, David Mann wrote:
 
 On Aug 29, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
 
> Well, we'll just have to disagree on this one. I believe it was indeed 
> much ado about very little.
 
 I'm not surprised it seems this way.
>>> 
>>>  From what I saw it looked like they were expecting a lot worse than what 
>>> actually happened.
>>>  With Katrina in their minds they would not have wanted to screw
>>>  this up as doing so would guarantee losing the next election.
>>> Except the our Mayor is in his last term... he isn't running again.  Of 
>>> course Chris Christy in NJ is another matter...
>>> 
> The federal government declared New York a disaster area before it was a 
> disaster area
 
> 
 I did wonder about that :)
>>> 
>>>  I wonder if it's a procedural thing as making declarations
>>> like that can free up certain sources of funding,
>>> give extra legal powers, allow civil defence /
>>> the armed forces / national guard to be mobilised, and all that sort of 
>>> thing.
 
 Cheers,
 Dave
 
 
>>> I actually didn't know it was that technically - but yes let us do remember 
>>> Katrina where the government really screwed up a lot.
>>> 
>>> OF course, I'm in NYC and having been in a situation where knowing all this 
>>> stuff ahead of time really did matter one thing now occurs to me since 
>>> there is a bit of grousing about the coverage...
>>> 
>>> Didn't really know (and still don't) that the whole world was getting
>>> um saturated with TMI about it - we who live here in the path appreciated 
>>> it  And they did it without commercials, too.
>>> 
>>> ann
>>> 
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Re: Berlin

2011-08-29 Thread Eactivist
Ditto.

Marnie the akaless :-)

In a  message dated 8/24/2011 1:23:33 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
fer.p...@gmail.com  writes:
I like both, nice work.

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 6:05 PM, SV  Hovland  wrote:
> I am back from Berlin. A lot  more difficult this year to get pictures I 
am reasonable pleased with. Here are  two.
>
>  http://album.heime.org/album/berlin/tiergarten_110819_105556.jpg
>
>
>  http://album.heime.org/album/berlin/tiergarten_110821_140322.jpg
>
>  I like the last one where adults seemingly has lost all interest in 
having fun  :-)
>
>
>
>
> Please note that there are now new  rules for access to the Reichstag 
roof.
>
>  http://reichstagberlin.com/
>  https://www.bundestag.de/htdocs_e/visits/kupp.html
>  https://www.bundestag.de/besuche/besucherdienst/index.jsp
>
> A  request has to be sent at least three working days beforehand.
>
>  Stig Vidar Hovland
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Re: PESO: Gluten Free Menu

2011-08-29 Thread Eactivist
I don't know, they'd kind of put me off  my meal -- gluten free or not.

Marnie the akaless ;-)

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Re: PESO Men working, at night

2011-08-29 Thread Eactivist
Good one.

Marnie the akaless  :-)

In a message dated 8/27/2011 11:32:58 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
l...@red4est.com writes:
On my way home last night, I liked the effect of the  lights PG&E was using 
to illuminate their  work:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6086427744/
K-5 FA77, 1/50  f/1.8 ISO 400

Most of the rest of the set is tighter in on the guys  working, with the  
A*200/2.8
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Re: PAW--Week 34--Sunflower

2011-08-29 Thread Eactivist
Very nice. I like the processing.

Marnie  the akaless

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Re: Irene

2011-08-29 Thread Christine Nielsen
Here on the coast just south of Boston, we did pretty well.
Interesting that we knew to expect more wind damage than water, being
on the eastern side of the storm.  But there's minimal damage to
property, no flooding to speak of.  Many neighboring towns are still
without power, and will be for days, but we only had a couple of very
brief interruptions yesterday.  What surprised me most is the toll
that the storm took in Vermont.  Major flooding, damage to homes,
towns, roadways, bridges...  I'm not sure anyone expected that extent
of destruction up there, being an inland state especially.

Today was as beautiful a day as we've had all summer, though.

:)
-c



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> I spoke too soon yesterday.
>
> Shortly after 6:00 last night, our power started going on and off
> again, every few minutes.  Just as we were starting to prepare dinner,
> the power went out.  The Stove wouldn't light, so we had an unplanned
> barbecue.  It is still out at home, but we have power here in the
> office.
>
> There is still flooding in this area.  A portion of Readington Road
> (County Route 637), which is my access to US 22, buckled because it
> was undercut by flood waters.  One lane was open, and construction was
> under way, and I made it into Somerville without incident or delay.
>
> The Somerset County Court House is closed, as are others throughout
> the state.  We are still is a mess, with lost of closed and flooded
> roads.  The apartment building a few hundred yards from our office was
> evacuated, and is still closed.
>
> This storm -- and the warnings -- were never about wind velocity.  It
> was always a question of the amount of water and the coastal and river
> flooding.  That has proved quite damaging in New Jersey, at least.  A
> lot of people have been evacuated and still cant return.  A
> substantial percentage of the homes are still out of power.  Roads are
> still closed because of flooding and flood damage.  The rivers are
> still rising in parts of the state.
>
> The warnings were appropriate.
>
> Dan
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>
>
> On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 8/29/2011 04:27, David Mann wrote:
>>>
>>> On Aug 29, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>>
 Well, we'll just have to disagree on this one. I believe it was indeed 
 much ado about very little.
>>>
>>> I'm not surprised it seems this way.
>>
>>  From what I saw it looked like they were expecting a lot worse than what 
>> actually happened.
>>  With Katrina in their minds they would not have wanted to screw
>>  this up as doing so would guarantee losing the next election.
>> Except the our Mayor is in his last term... he isn't running again.  Of 
>> course Chris Christy in NJ is another matter...
>>
 The federal government declared New York a disaster area before it was a 
 disaster area
>>>
>>> >
>>> I did wonder about that :)
>>
>>  I wonder if it's a procedural thing as making declarations
>> like that can free up certain sources of funding,
>> give extra legal powers, allow civil defence /
>> the armed forces / national guard to be mobilised, and all that sort of 
>> thing.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>> I actually didn't know it was that technically - but yes let us do remember 
>> Katrina where the government really screwed up a lot.
>>
>> OF course, I'm in NYC and having been in a situation where knowing all this 
>> stuff ahead of time really did matter one thing now occurs to me since there 
>> is a bit of grousing about the coverage...
>>
>> Didn't really know (and still don't) that the whole world was getting
>> um saturated with TMI about it - we who live here in the path appreciated it 
>>  And they did it without commercials, too.
>>
>> ann
>>
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Re: What lens would you like Pentax to make?

2011-08-29 Thread steve harley

On 2011-08-29 17:56 , Paul Stenquist wrote:


On Aug 29, 2011, at 7:23 PM, steve harley wrote:


On 2011-08-29 15:37 , DagT wrote:

Still hoping for a DA*35 1.4 and DA*20 2.0 to match the DA55 1.4...


those would suit me too; best if they were compact too


If they're that fast, they won't be compact. It's a matter of physics.


width matters too -- in my dream, they don't need to be pancake lenses, just no 
bigger than they need to be (i.e. whittled down for APS-C); i could do without 
autofocus too


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Re: What lens would you like Pentax to make?

2011-08-29 Thread Steven Desjardins
I don't want Pentax to make new lenses.  I just want the money to buy
some of the ones they have now.

On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:
> On 8/29/2011 7:01 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>
>> On Aug 29, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:
>>
>>> On 8/29/2011 2:03 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

 I just realized that it's been literally years (two or more) since I
 bought a pentax lens. The fact is, I have pretty much everything I
 need - the 50-135 and 60-250 are interesting, but not enough to make
 my break out my credit card (the FA*80-200/2.8 works fine for me).

 But one thing I *would* buy in a heartbeat would be a weather-sealed
 12-24 (or wider) ultrawide.


>>> I'd like to see them introduce a new line of manual focus primes with an
>>> emphasis on quality optics and affordability.  Of course, they're in it to
>>> make money, so that scotches the whole plan.
>>>
>>> -- Walt
>>>
>> You can get them from Zeiss, but hurry. They're being discontinued.
>> Paul
>
> Thanks, Paul.  Though, based on what I've seen, Carl Zeiss and I have
> /completely/ different concepts of affordability.
>
> -- Walt
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Re: What lens would you like Pentax to make?

2011-08-29 Thread Walt Gilbert

On 8/29/2011 7:01 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

On Aug 29, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:


On 8/29/2011 2:03 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

I just realized that it's been literally years (two or more) since I
bought a pentax lens. The fact is, I have pretty much everything I
need - the 50-135 and 60-250 are interesting, but not enough to make
my break out my credit card (the FA*80-200/2.8 works fine for me).

But one thing I *would* buy in a heartbeat would be a weather-sealed
12-24 (or wider) ultrawide.



I'd like to see them introduce a new line of manual focus primes with an 
emphasis on quality optics and affordability.  Of course, they're in it to make 
money, so that scotches the whole plan.

-- Walt


You can get them from Zeiss, but hurry. They're being discontinued.
Paul
Thanks, Paul.  Though, based on what I've seen, Carl Zeiss and I have 
/completely/ different concepts of affordability.


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Re: What lens would you like Pentax to make?

2011-08-29 Thread Philip Northeast

On 30/08/11 5:03 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

I just realized that it's been literally years (two or more) since I
bought a pentax lens. The fact is, I have pretty much everything I
need - the 50-135 and 60-250 are interesting, but not enough to make
my break out my credit card (the FA*80-200/2.8 works fine for me).

But one thing I *would* buy in a heartbeat would be a weather-sealed
12-24 (or wider) ultrawide.





I have the 50-135 and love it.

What I would like is a 130-400 zoom weather sealed and with fast auto 
focus motor and wide maximum aperture.


but then could I justify the expense?

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Re: What lens would you like Pentax to make?

2011-08-29 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Aug 29, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

> On 8/29/2011 2:03 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>> I just realized that it's been literally years (two or more) since I
>> bought a pentax lens. The fact is, I have pretty much everything I
>> need - the 50-135 and 60-250 are interesting, but not enough to make
>> my break out my credit card (the FA*80-200/2.8 works fine for me).
>> 
>> But one thing I *would* buy in a heartbeat would be a weather-sealed
>> 12-24 (or wider) ultrawide.
>> 
>> 
> I'd like to see them introduce a new line of manual focus primes with an 
> emphasis on quality optics and affordability.  Of course, they're in it to 
> make money, so that scotches the whole plan.
> 
> -- Walt
> 
You can get them from Zeiss, but hurry. They're being discontinued.
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Re: What lens would you like Pentax to make?

2011-08-29 Thread Paul Stenquist

On Aug 29, 2011, at 7:23 PM, steve harley wrote:

> On 2011-08-29 15:37 , DagT wrote:
>> Still hoping for a DA*35 1.4 and DA*20 2.0 to match the DA55 1.4...
> 
> those would suit me too; best if they were compact too

If they're that fast, they won't be compact. It's a matter of physics.
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Cicada

2011-08-29 Thread David Parsons
I fished a cicada out of my pool today.

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Re: What lens would you like Pentax to make?

2011-08-29 Thread steve harley

On 2011-08-29 15:37 , DagT wrote:

Still hoping for a DA*35 1.4 and DA*20 2.0 to match the DA55 1.4...


those would suit me too; best if they were compact too

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Re: Pentax Character?

2011-08-29 Thread Larry Colen

On Aug 29, 2011, at 12:38 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

> I would have thought the other way, i.e., the clipped highlights were
> indicative of a smaller dynamic range.  I think the Pentax shots are
> much better.

Yes, smaller pixels have less dynamic range, just as using higher ISO on larger 
sensors.

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Re: PESO: Gluten Free Menu

2011-08-29 Thread Ann Sanfedele

LOL!

ann

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Re: OT - Industrial Revolutions

2011-08-29 Thread Cotty
On 29/8/11, Anthony Farr, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Perhaps Cotty knows about it, this was commissioned by IIRC his old
>employer, Channel Four in the UK.

I'm afraid I don't mate. I never worked for C4 - in any case Channel 4
in the UK is just a publisher broadcaster - the vast majority of its
output is made by independent production companies.

Excellent video though - seen it before.

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PESO: Gluten Free Menu

2011-08-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
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Re: What lens would you like Pentax to make?

2011-08-29 Thread DagT

Den 29. aug. 2011 kl. 21.03 skrev Mark Roberts:

> I just realized that it's been literally years (two or more) since I
> bought a pentax lens. The fact is, I have pretty much everything I
> need - the 50-135 and 60-250 are interesting, but not enough to make
> my break out my credit card (the FA*80-200/2.8 works fine for me).
> 
> But one thing I *would* buy in a heartbeat would be a weather-sealed
> 12-24 (or wider) ultrawide.


Still hoping for a DA*35 1.4 and DA*20 2.0 to match the DA55 1.4...

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Re: What lens would you like Pentax to make?

2011-08-29 Thread Walt Gilbert

On 8/29/2011 2:03 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

I just realized that it's been literally years (two or more) since I
bought a pentax lens. The fact is, I have pretty much everything I
need - the 50-135 and 60-250 are interesting, but not enough to make
my break out my credit card (the FA*80-200/2.8 works fine for me).

But one thing I *would* buy in a heartbeat would be a weather-sealed
12-24 (or wider) ultrawide.


I'd like to see them introduce a new line of manual focus primes with an 
emphasis on quality optics and affordability.  Of course, they're in it 
to make money, so that scotches the whole plan.


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Re: What lens would you like Pentax to make?

2011-08-29 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 03:03:50PM -0400, Mark Roberts wrote:
> I just realized that it's been literally years (two or more) since I
> bought a pentax lens. The fact is, I have pretty much everything I
> need - the 50-135 and 60-250 are interesting, but not enough to make
> my break out my credit card (the FA*80-200/2.8 works fine for me).
> 
> But one thing I *would* buy in a heartbeat would be a weather-sealed
> 12-24 (or wider) ultrawide.

I took the other route - I've now got both the DA* lenses named above.

I use the long range more than the low end, so the 16-50 is usually as
wide as I need to go. But I occasionally still want a bit more at the
long end, so what *I* want to see is the TCs that briefly showed up on
the road map.


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Re: What lens would you like Pentax to make?

2011-08-29 Thread Ken Waller
I've used my FA 600 in some pretty rotten weather for long periods of time 
in some cases - snow, sleet, rain, below freezing and all I've ever done was 
to protect it by draping a travel towel (not a terry cloth but a highly 
absorbtive material sold for hikers/campers) over it and covering the front 
end with a ball cap. It never missed a beat in all the years I've had it. 
With care, weather sealing has not been an issue for any of my lenses over 
the 40+ years I've shot Pentax. Wouldn't stop me from buying a lens with it 
but I wouldn't pay much extra for it if I had to. I try to treat all my geat 
as the delicate instruments they are.


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Subject: Re: What lens would you like Pentax to make?



I'd like every lens to be weather sealed.

I often find myself needing about a 30-80 f/2.8, but I'd love to have 
24-105/2.8


I'd like a 30/1.4 (a fast standard)

I'd also like an 85/1.4.


On Aug 29, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:


I just realized that it's been literally years (two or more) since I
bought a pentax lens. The fact is, I have pretty much everything I
need - the 50-135 and 60-250 are interesting, but not enough to make
my break out my credit card (the FA*80-200/2.8 works fine for me).

But one thing I *would* buy in a heartbeat would be a weather-sealed
12-24 (or wider) ultrawide.


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Re: What lens would you like Pentax to make?

2011-08-29 Thread Mark Roberts
Paul Stenquist wrote:

>I have the DA 12-24, so a weather-sealed version wouldn't move me to spend.

I also have the 12-24 and it's a great lens. But after my trip to
Ireland I'd spring for a weather-sealed version in a flash ;-)
 
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Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up

2011-08-29 Thread Scott Loveless
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Bob W  wrote:
>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
>> mike wilson
>> >
>> Not where I've been on holiday. Headline in the local press last week:
>> "Burning man seen running from scene of arson attack".
>>
> were the police in hot pusuit?
>
I'd be alarmed if they weren't.

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Re: What lens would you like Pentax to make?

2011-08-29 Thread Paul Stenquist
I have the DA 12-24, so a weather-sealed version wouldn't move me to spend. But 
I would like to see some long glass, perhaps a DA* 400/4 or 500/5.6. Of course 
I couldn't afford a 2K or 3K price tag, but I could at least drool. A DA* 
400/5.6 at $1000 or so would probably move me to action.

Paul


On Aug 29, 2011, at 3:03 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> I just realized that it's been literally years (two or more) since I
> bought a pentax lens. The fact is, I have pretty much everything I
> need - the 50-135 and 60-250 are interesting, but not enough to make
> my break out my credit card (the FA*80-200/2.8 works fine for me).
> 
> But one thing I *would* buy in a heartbeat would be a weather-sealed
> 12-24 (or wider) ultrawide.
> 
> 
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Re: Pentax Character?

2011-08-29 Thread Eactivist
Using a Canon, I think this has nothing to with  Canon. It is poor 
photographers who don't spot meter people's faces. And, yes,  don't shoot 
manually.

Marnie the akaless {shrug}

In a message  dated 8/29/2011 12:38:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
drd1...@gmail.com  writes:
> What I've noticed among friends shooting Canon is that when they  take 
photos of people, the highlights on the skin look almost washed out, if not  
blown out.  But, I think that could just be a metering, and processing  
choice.  I usually work hard to keep detail in the highlights, and usually  
shoot 
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Re: Pentax Character?

2011-08-29 Thread Steven Desjardins
I would have thought the other way, i.e., the clipped highlights were
indicative of a smaller dynamic range.  I think the Pentax shots are
much better.

On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
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> On Aug 29, 2011, at 6:04 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
>
>> As opposed to "characters", which refer to you folks.
>>
>> I look at the mu43 website and there is a definite difference in the
>> overall character of the images.  The PDML photos seem to have a much
>> subtler range of tones whereas many of the mu43 shot seem harsher,
>> especially with regard to blown highlights.  It is the dynamic range
>> of the bodies, firmware choices,  or simply preferences in post
>> processing?  I've never really looked at Canikon sites so I really
>> have no other APS-C  standard of comparison
>
> What you're describing sounds like when we use our cameras at higher ISO, 
> reducing the dynamic range.  Which would make sense, because with smaller 
> sensors, and smaller pixels, you get less dynamic range.  When they start 
> producing mu4/3 with rear illuminated sensors, they won't get the dynamic 
> range of the K-5, but they might start getting something close to the K-7.
>
> What I've noticed among friends shooting Canon is that when they take photos 
> of people, the highlights on the skin look almost washed out, if not blown 
> out.  But, I think that could just be a metering, and processing choice.  I 
> usually work hard to keep detail in the highlights, and usually shoot in 
> manual exposure.
>
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Re: What lens would you like Pentax to make?

2011-08-29 Thread Larry Colen
I'd like every lens to be weather sealed.

I often find myself needing about a 30-80 f/2.8, but I'd love to have 24-105/2.8

I'd like a 30/1.4 (a fast standard)

I'd also like an 85/1.4.


On Aug 29, 2011, at 12:03 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> I just realized that it's been literally years (two or more) since I
> bought a pentax lens. The fact is, I have pretty much everything I
> need - the 50-135 and 60-250 are interesting, but not enough to make
> my break out my credit card (the FA*80-200/2.8 works fine for me).
> 
> But one thing I *would* buy in a heartbeat would be a weather-sealed
> 12-24 (or wider) ultrawide.
> 
> 
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Re: Irene

2011-08-29 Thread Bob Sullivan
Local reports put some Illinois National Guard units heading east to
assist with Irene.
Regards,  Bob S.

On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 11:04 AM, John Sessoms  wrote:
>> On Aug 29, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>
>>> Well, we'll just have to disagree on this one. I believe it was
>>> indeed much ado about very little.
>>
>> I'm not surprised it seems this way.  From what I saw it looked like
>> they were expecting a lot worse than what actually happened.  With
>> Katrina in their minds they would not have wanted to screw this up as
>> doing so would guarantee losing the next election.
>>
>>> The federal government declared New York a disaster area before it
>>> was a disaster area
>>
>> I did wonder about that   I wonder if it's a procedural thing as
>> making declarations like that can free up certain sources of funding,
>> give extra legal powers, allow civil defence / the armed forces /
>> national guard to be mobilised, and all that sort of thing.
>
> It's mainly about making recovery/reconstruction money (government
> guaranteed low interest rate loans [1]) available thru FEMA.
>
> It's very seldom a natural disaster is serious enough to require Federal
> troops. For hurricanes, that's mainly Coast Guard, who would be doing what
> they do anyway, and don't have to wait for disaster declarations. A lot of
> times the scope of what's declared a disaster in the wake of a hurricane is
> based on what the Coast Guard can observe from their rescue helicopters.
>
> Going back to Hurricane Floyd in 1999, North Carolina got some assistance
> from active US Army CH-47 helicopter units, but those units were from Ft.
> Bragg in North Carolina and were actually ordered to render assistance
> before the disaster declaration was made. The actual "boots on the ground"
> were all NC National Guard - plus an additional CH-47 unit loaned by
> Georgia's Governor.
>
> The governor of any affected state doesn't need Federal permission or
> disaster declaration before using the state's National Guard for disaster
> relief. The National Guard is a local resource that can be employed much
> more quickly than Federal troops could be.
>
> There are also pre-existing regional compacts between some states to share
> National Guard resources, such as that CH-47 unit Georgia loaned to North
> Carolina in 1999. North Carolina National Guard doesn't have any heavy lift
> helicopter resources of our own.
>
> But what we do have is an aerial fire retardant dispersal system that fits
> the Air Guard's C-130s that gets used from here to California every year.
>
>
>
> [1] Not, however, interest rates as low as the Wall Street Banks got!
>
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What lens would you like Pentax to make?

2011-08-29 Thread Mark Roberts
I just realized that it's been literally years (two or more) since I
bought a pentax lens. The fact is, I have pretty much everything I
need - the 50-135 and 60-250 are interesting, but not enough to make
my break out my credit card (the FA*80-200/2.8 works fine for me).

But one thing I *would* buy in a heartbeat would be a weather-sealed
12-24 (or wider) ultrawide.

 
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Re: OT: Daffynitions

2011-08-29 Thread Eactivist
Yup!

Marnie the akaless :-)  Mine  are laugh lines.

In a message dated 8/29/2011 8:01:42 A.M. Pacific  Daylight Time, 
danmaty...@gmail.com writes:
WRINKLES:
Something other  people have,
Similar to my character lines.
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Re: Irene

2011-08-29 Thread Eactivist
Don't think so. I sort of remembering him saying  #7 was good. That is why 
there wasn't an #8.

Or he got involved with her  before there could be an #8. ;-)

Marnie

In a message dated  8/28/2011 8:35:56 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, 
rf.sulli...@gmail.com  writes:
Stan,
Perhaps she was #7.  Didn't they all break flash heads  or memory cards?
Regards,  Bob S.  


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Re: Irene

2011-08-29 Thread Eactivist
Paul just doesn't like Bloomberg, that is all it  is. Politics. ;-) to Paul.

I think the hype was good, it could have been  worse and they couldn't 
predict, when the hype started, that it would DEFINITELY  drop down to a 1. 
Past 
experience said it was likely, but there was no way to  know for sure. (And 
I've seen photos of the lower part of Manhatten flooded.  Maybe it is only 
a few blocks or so, don't know, but it did happen.)

Also  Irene's path covered more coast line and more people than most 
hurricanes do. A  lot more.

I am glad you are okay and that it WASN'T worse.

Marnie  the akaless

In a message dated 8/28/2011 7:49:09 P.M. Pacific Daylight  Time, 
ann...@nyc.rr.com writes:
There was coverage in our area for hours and  hours without breaks for
commercials!  It was the media acting  responsibly - I forgive them some
redundancy

ann  


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Re: NorCal PDML Meet

2011-08-29 Thread John Francis
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 12:05:57AM -0700, Larry Colen wrote:
> 
> On Aug 28, 2011, at 9:58 PM, John Francis wrote:
> > 
> > But here's one I rather like (probably because it's a shot I though
> > of first, and worked hard to find the right vantage point):
> > 
> >http://www.jfwaf.com/temp/Sonoma.jpg
> 
> Great shot.  I can't see the markings clearly but are they the Angels?

No - they're a smaller (private) outfit:  The Patriot Jet Team


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Re: PESO - Fishy Falls

2011-08-29 Thread Rick Womer
Ken, Bob, John, Dave, Dan,

Thanks very much!  

Rick

http://photo.net/photos/RickW


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> captures the feeling of being at
> the falls.  Thanks for sharing.
> 
> Dan
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> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Rick Womer 
> wrote:
> > We took a trip to Toronto, via Rochester and Niagara
> Falls, in May.  Here is a fisheye view of the falls from
> the Canadian side:
> >
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14104715&size=lg
> >
> > K7, DA 10-17
> >
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Re: OT - Industrial Revolutions

2011-08-29 Thread Walt Gilbert

That was fascinating.  Thanks for sharing!

-- Walt

On 8/29/2011 8:18 AM, Anthony Farr wrote:

As soon as I saw this video I knew I had to pass it on to PDML:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShbC5yVqOdI

It ticks three boxes that are near and dear to at least a few pdmlers.
  Bicycling is featured against a stunning backdrop of industrial
decay, and it's a beautifully bit of cinematography, or videography as
the case may be.  The description calls it a film, but it has the
narrow DOF of DSLR or big chip video. The color is rich and soft like
video but there's no info on the production company's website.  35mm
film or bigger would give this look, but I doubt there's an economic
case for such an expensive production when television is the output
medium.

Perhaps Cotty knows about it, this was commissioned by IIRC his old
employer, Channel Four in the UK.

regards, Anthony

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 to those who lack in mind and sight"
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Re: Pentax Character?

2011-08-29 Thread Larry Colen

On Aug 29, 2011, at 6:04 AM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

> As opposed to "characters", which refer to you folks.
> 
> I look at the mu43 website and there is a definite difference in the
> overall character of the images.  The PDML photos seem to have a much
> subtler range of tones whereas many of the mu43 shot seem harsher,
> especially with regard to blown highlights.  It is the dynamic range
> of the bodies, firmware choices,  or simply preferences in post
> processing?  I've never really looked at Canikon sites so I really
> have no other APS-C  standard of comparison

What you're describing sounds like when we use our cameras at higher ISO, 
reducing the dynamic range.  Which would make sense, because with smaller 
sensors, and smaller pixels, you get less dynamic range.  When they start 
producing mu4/3 with rear illuminated sensors, they won't get the dynamic range 
of the K-5, but they might start getting something close to the K-7.

What I've noticed among friends shooting Canon is that when they take photos of 
people, the highlights on the skin look almost washed out, if not blown out.  
But, I think that could just be a metering, and processing choice.  I usually 
work hard to keep detail in the highlights, and usually shoot in manual 
exposure. 

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RE: OT - Industrial Revolutions

2011-08-29 Thread John Sessoms

From: Anthony Farr

As soon as I saw this video I knew I had to pass it on to PDML:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShbC5yVqOdI


Thank you for that. It really was an interesting little "film".

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Re: Irene

2011-08-29 Thread John Sessoms

On Aug 29, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:


Well, we'll just have to disagree on this one. I believe it was
indeed much ado about very little.


I'm not surprised it seems this way.  From what I saw it looked like
they were expecting a lot worse than what actually happened.  With
Katrina in their minds they would not have wanted to screw this up as
doing so would guarantee losing the next election.


The federal government declared New York a disaster area before it
was a disaster area


I did wonder about that   I wonder if it's a procedural thing as
making declarations like that can free up certain sources of funding,
give extra legal powers, allow civil defence / the armed forces /
national guard to be mobilised, and all that sort of thing.


It's mainly about making recovery/reconstruction money (government 
guaranteed low interest rate loans [1]) available thru FEMA.


It's very seldom a natural disaster is serious enough to require Federal 
troops. For hurricanes, that's mainly Coast Guard, who would be doing 
what they do anyway, and don't have to wait for disaster declarations. A 
lot of times the scope of what's declared a disaster in the wake of a 
hurricane is based on what the Coast Guard can observe from their rescue 
helicopters.


Going back to Hurricane Floyd in 1999, North Carolina got some 
assistance from active US Army CH-47 helicopter units, but those units 
were from Ft. Bragg in North Carolina and were actually ordered to 
render assistance before the disaster declaration was made. The actual 
"boots on the ground" were all NC National Guard - plus an additional 
CH-47 unit loaned by Georgia's Governor.


The governor of any affected state doesn't need Federal permission or 
disaster declaration before using the state's National Guard for 
disaster relief. The National Guard is a local resource that can be 
employed much more quickly than Federal troops could be.


There are also pre-existing regional compacts between some states to 
share National Guard resources, such as that CH-47 unit Georgia loaned 
to North Carolina in 1999. North Carolina National Guard doesn't have 
any heavy lift helicopter resources of our own.


But what we do have is an aerial fire retardant dispersal system that 
fits the Air Guard's C-130s that gets used from here to California every 
year.




[1] Not, however, interest rates as low as the Wall Street Banks got!


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RE: OT - You can't make this stuff up

2011-08-29 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> mike wilson
> >>
> >> http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Thief-Jacks-Car-With-Kids-
> Poodle-Drops-Them-All-Off-at-Home-127999188.html
> >
> > There seems to be a rash of totally inept criminals lately. They pop
> > up on the morning news here at least once a week. Where the heck are
> > today's Lex Luthors?
> >
> Not where I've been on holiday. Headline in the local press last week:
> "Burning man seen running from scene of arson attack".
> 

were the police in hot pusuit?

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Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up

2011-08-29 Thread mike wilson

On 18/08/2011 20:48, Godfrey DiGiorgi wrote:

On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 5:55 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:


http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Thief-Jacks-Car-With-Kids-Poodle-Drops-Them-All-Off-at-Home-127999188.html


There seems to be a rash of totally inept criminals lately. They pop
up on the morning news here at least once a week. Where the heck are
today's Lex Luthors?

Not where I've been on holiday. Headline in the local press last week: 
"Burning man seen running from scene of arson attack".


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OT: Irene

2011-08-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
http://news.yahoo.com/photos/irene-cleanup-could-take-days-along-east-coast-1314579675-slideshow/man-walks-top-wall-next-flooded-highway-brunswick-photo-221720096.html#crsl=%252Fphotos%252Firene-cleanup-could-take-days-along-east-coast-1314579675-slideshow%252Fnorth-carolinas-coastline-recovers-hurricane-20110828-184108-856.html
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OT: Daffynitions

2011-08-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
These should be in the dictionary:

ADULT:
A person who has stopped growing at both ends
and is now growing in the middle.
BEAUTY PARLOR:
A place where women curl up and dye.
CHICKENS:
The only animals you eat before they are born and after they are dead.
COMMITTEE:
A body that keeps minutes and wastes hours.
DUST:
Mud with the juice squeezed out.
EGOTIST:
Someone who is usually me-deep in conversation.
HANDKERCHIEF:
Cold Storage.
INFLATION:
Cutting money in half without damaging the paper.
MOSQUITO:
An insect that makes you like flies better.
RAISIN:
A grape with a sunburn.
SECRET:
Something you tell to one person at a time.
SKELETON:
A bunch of bones with the person scraped off.
TOOTHACHE:
The pain that drives you to extraction.
TOMORROW:
One of the greatest labor saving devices of today.
YAWN:
An honest opinion openly expressed.
WRINKLES:
Something other people have,
Similar to my character lines.
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Re: PESO - Fishy Falls

2011-08-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is a wonderful image that really captures the feeling of being at
the falls.  Thanks for sharing.

Dan
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> We took a trip to Toronto, via Rochester and Niagara Falls, in May.  Here is 
> a fisheye view of the falls from the Canadian side:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14104715&size=lg
>
> K7, DA 10-17
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Re: Irene

2011-08-29 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I spoke too soon yesterday.

Shortly after 6:00 last night, our power started going on and off
again, every few minutes.  Just as we were starting to prepare dinner,
the power went out.  The Stove wouldn't light, so we had an unplanned
barbecue.  It is still out at home, but we have power here in the
office.

There is still flooding in this area.  A portion of Readington Road
(County Route 637), which is my access to US 22, buckled because it
was undercut by flood waters.  One lane was open, and construction was
under way, and I made it into Somerville without incident or delay.

The Somerset County Court House is closed, as are others throughout
the state.  We are still is a mess, with lost of closed and flooded
roads.  The apartment building a few hundred yards from our office was
evacuated, and is still closed.

This storm -- and the warnings -- were never about wind velocity.  It
was always a question of the amount of water and the coastal and river
flooding.  That has proved quite damaging in New Jersey, at least.  A
lot of people have been evacuated and still cant return.  A
substantial percentage of the homes are still out of power.  Roads are
still closed because of flooding and flood damage.  The rivers are
still rising in parts of the state.

The warnings were appropriate.

Dan
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On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:
>
>
> On 8/29/2011 04:27, David Mann wrote:
>>
>> On Aug 29, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>
>>> Well, we'll just have to disagree on this one. I believe it was indeed much 
>>> ado about very little.
>>
>> I'm not surprised it seems this way.
>
>  From what I saw it looked like they were expecting a lot worse than what 
> actually happened.
>  With Katrina in their minds they would not have wanted to screw
>  this up as doing so would guarantee losing the next election.
> Except the our Mayor is in his last term... he isn't running again.  Of 
> course Chris Christy in NJ is another matter...
>
>>> The federal government declared New York a disaster area before it was a 
>>> disaster area
>>
>> >
>> I did wonder about that :)
>
>  I wonder if it's a procedural thing as making declarations
> like that can free up certain sources of funding,
> give extra legal powers, allow civil defence /
> the armed forces / national guard to be mobilised, and all that sort of thing.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
>>
>>
> I actually didn't know it was that technically - but yes let us do remember 
> Katrina where the government really screwed up a lot.
>
> OF course, I'm in NYC and having been in a situation where knowing all this 
> stuff ahead of time really did matter one thing now occurs to me since there 
> is a bit of grousing about the coverage...
>
> Didn't really know (and still don't) that the whole world was getting
> um saturated with TMI about it - we who live here in the path appreciated it  
> And they did it without commercials, too.
>
> ann
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Re: Irene

2011-08-29 Thread Stan Halpin

> On Aug 29, 2011, at 9:19 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
> 
>>> On Aug 29, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>> Well, we'll just have to disagree on this one. I believe it was indeed much 
>>> ado about very little.
>> 
> 
> OF course, I'm in NYC and having been in a situation where knowing all this 
> stuff ahead of time really did matter one thing now occurs to me since there 
> is a bit of grousing about the coverage...
> 
> Didn't really know (and still don't) that the whole world was getting
> um saturated with TMI about it - we who live here in the path appreciated it  
> And they did it without commercials, too.
> 
> ann
> 

During the 25+ years I lived in Kansas City, we had numerous occasions when 
tornado watches and warnings were posted. KCMO is a very large metro area, and 
it is not unusual for one part to be threatened while another is totally clear. 
And of course all threats do not translate into actual events. During every 
such weather event, Katie (Ch 5) and Brian (Ch 7) and the others would take 
over their respective airwaves and provide endless commentary on the radar 
images and on-the-spot reporters and storm chasers. During and after every 
event there would be an outcry from those who didn't like to have their soap 
opera or sports event interrupted, or who just didn't want to hear Katie go on 
and on about hook echos. Katie's response: "if I can save one person's life by 
convincing them to stay home and under cover, this is all worth it." 

It is well-established that it is better to take people out of danger via bus 
before a flood than by helicopter from rooftops during a flood. It is better to 
pre-position sandbags where flooding is likely than to be making phone calls 
trying to coordinate acquisition of the bags and sand and volunteers to fill 
them while standing ankle deep in rising water. There will be fewer casualties 
and fewer fatalities (e.g., in Joplin) if people take cover because of 
broadcast warnings. So sometimes the predicted high winds during the storm turn 
out to be less an issue than the record-breaking floods that follow; that 
doesn't mean that it wasn't a good idea to have been prepared.

My own closest encounter with a tornado was a few years ago. I had been out 
running errands; the look of the clouds and the "severe storm" and tornado 
warnings on the radio and the sirens going off got my attention. When I got 
home, I turned on the TV. About 10 minutes later Katie was zooming in on a 
section of the radar; "This is what a tornado looks like. It is moving along 
this line. It will hit Parkville in 5 minutes. If you are in Parkville 
listening to me now, then stop listening and get into sheltar. Now!" That 
included us, and we went to the basement. As it turned out. the tornado was on 
a straight line towards our house. But when it reached the Missouri river about 
2 miles southwest of us, it executed a 90° turn to the east, followed the river 
for a mile, did another 90° turn and proceeded on its way to the northwest. So 
our time in the basement was an unnecessary precaution, but I did not regret 
listening to the warnings about what might happen, and I was grateful for the 
people who provided the warnings.

stan
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RE: OT - Industrial Revolutions

2011-08-29 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Anthony Farr

> As soon as I saw this video I knew I had to pass it on to PDML:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShbC5yVqOdI
> 
> It ticks three boxes that are near and dear to at least a few pdmlers.
>  Bicycling is featured against a stunning backdrop of industrial
> decay, and it's a beautifully bit of cinematography, or videography as
> the case may be.  The description calls it a film, but it has the
> narrow DOF of DSLR or big chip video. The color is rich and soft like
> video but there's no info on the production company's website.  35mm
> film or bigger would give this look, but I doubt there's an economic
> case for such an expensive production when television is the output
> medium.
> 

It's a very enjoyable piece of film (or whatever). I don't know about the
technicalities, but a lot of the cyclist's stuff is shot for advertising,
which is where the high production values may come from .

B

> Perhaps Cotty knows about it, this was commissioned by IIRC his old
> employer, Channel Four in the UK.
> 
> regards, Anthony
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OT - Industrial Revolutions

2011-08-29 Thread Anthony Farr
As soon as I saw this video I knew I had to pass it on to PDML:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShbC5yVqOdI

It ticks three boxes that are near and dear to at least a few pdmlers.
 Bicycling is featured against a stunning backdrop of industrial
decay, and it's a beautifully bit of cinematography, or videography as
the case may be.  The description calls it a film, but it has the
narrow DOF of DSLR or big chip video. The color is rich and soft like
video but there's no info on the production company's website.  35mm
film or bigger would give this look, but I doubt there's an economic
case for such an expensive production when television is the output
medium.

Perhaps Cotty knows about it, this was commissioned by IIRC his old
employer, Channel Four in the UK.

regards, Anthony

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    to those who lack in mind and sight"
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Re: Irene

2011-08-29 Thread Ann Sanfedele



On 8/29/2011 04:27, David Mann wrote:

On Aug 29, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:


Well, we'll just have to disagree on this one. I believe it was indeed much ado 
about very little.


I'm not surprised it seems this way.


 From what I saw it looked like they were expecting a lot worse than 
what actually happened.

 With Katrina in their minds they would not have wanted to screw
 this up as doing so would guarantee losing the next election.
Except the our Mayor is in his last term... he isn't running again.  Of 
course Chris Christy in NJ is another matter...



The federal government declared New York a disaster area before it was a 
disaster area

>
I did wonder about that :)


 I wonder if it's a procedural thing as making declarations
like that can free up certain sources of funding,
give extra legal powers, allow civil defence /
the armed forces / national guard to be mobilised, and all that sort of 
thing.


Cheers,
Dave


I actually didn't know it was that technically - but yes let us do 
remember Katrina where the government really screwed up a lot.


OF course, I'm in NYC and having been in a situation where knowing all 
this stuff ahead of time really did matter one thing now occurs to me 
since there is a bit of grousing about the coverage...


Didn't really know (and still don't) that the whole world was getting
um saturated with TMI about it - we who live here in the path 
appreciated it  And they did it without commercials, too.


ann



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Re: Max pixel dimensions (was RE: September PUG - Just a bit of Prodding....

2011-08-29 Thread Steven Desjardins
"rounding error
 I thought rounding error was how you got aspherical lenses."

www.instantrimshot.com


>> rounding error
>
> I thought rounding error was how you got aspherical lenses.

On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
> On Aug 28, 2011, at 12:30 PM, Bob W wrote:
>
>>> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
>>> Larry Colen
>>
>>
 yes. If it was up to me I'd replace all the primes with more easily
 divisible numbers. It would save us all a lot of trouble.
>>>
>>> Now that you mention it, I realize why one of my lenses is 31mm, that
>>> doesn't however explain 77 rather than 79mm, or 50 rather than 51.
>>>
>>
>> rounding error
>
> I thought rounding error was how you got aspherical lenses.
>>
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Re: Boys are always boys...

2011-08-29 Thread Steven Desjardins
That took me a second.  A great catch.

On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Roman Melihhov  wrote:
> http://roman.blakout.net/?blog=20110828163601
> ^^^ look at this last photo. At this very delicate age boys are still boys...
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Pentax Character?

2011-08-29 Thread Steven Desjardins
As opposed to "characters", which refer to you folks.

I look at the mu43 website and there is a definite difference in the
overall character of the images.  The PDML photos seem to have a much
subtler range of tones whereas many of the mu43 shot seem harsher,
especially with regard to blown highlights.  It is the dynamic range
of the bodies, firmware choices,  or simply preferences in post
processing?  I've never really looked at Canikon sites so I really
have no other APS-C  standard of comparison

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Re: PESO - Rest Stop

2011-08-29 Thread Steven Desjardins
Excellent.  Composition and colors really work well.

On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14096172&size=lg
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Re: PESO - Fishy Falls

2011-08-29 Thread David J Brooks
Good one.

Dave

On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 9:02 PM, Rick Womer  wrote:
> We took a trip to Toronto, via Rochester and Niagara Falls, in May.  Here is 
> a fisheye view of the falls from the Canadian side:
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14104715&size=lg
>
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Re: Irene

2011-08-29 Thread Matthew Hunt
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 10:47 PM, Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

> Right now Irene is causing major, major flooding all over New England...
> much ado about very little? much ado about less than it might have been
> but this was a long way from "very little"

Specifically, ABC News is reporting direct losses of $7B - $13B.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/hurricanes/cleaning-irene-billion-damage/story?id=14399562

Prior to the hurricane, weather.com posted a list of the costliest US
hurricanes, and a blog I read made it actually mean something by
adjusting the values for inflation:

http://www.env-econ.net/2011/07/hey-weathercom-it-isnt-hard-to-adjust-for-inflation.html

The range of $7B - $13B puts Irene somewhere between the 13th and 6th
costliest hurricane, in real terms, in US history. It could have been
a lot worse, but it's not nothing.

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Re: Irene

2011-08-29 Thread Bong Manayon
On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 4:29 PM, Bob W  wrote:
>
> that's because the Northern Phillipines aren't one of the world's major
> financial centres. The size of the storm isn't what was important to the
> press, the politicians and the emergency services - it's the scale of the
> potential impact that matters. It's basic risk management.
>

Precisely.

Pacific storms gets attention when its on its way to Taiwan or Hong
Kong after its been through with the Philippines.  Which makes the
media/government overreaction expected if you live in New York.

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Re: GESO - Aerial Photography, Lake Eyre and Painted Hills

2011-08-29 Thread Chris Mitchell
>
> I hope you enjoy this small selection:
>
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Lake-Eyre/index.html
>
Superb Brian. And congrats to Margaret for my favourite:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Lake-Eyre/slides/IMGPDS-0604aj.html

The rest are pretty good too - and I love the landing shadow one.

Cheers, Chris

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Re: Irene

2011-08-29 Thread David Mann
On Aug 29, 2011, at 3:28 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> I think the news stations were so into their "disaster coverage," they went 
> out of their way to find the singular toppled tree or flooded street.

That's pretty much how all news stations operate.  They did it here last 
September.  The local news channels each sent one of their anchormen to 
broadcast the evening bulletins from in front of the only visibly badly damaged 
building in town.

I guess it'd make for pretty boring news if they sent a crew out to our place 
to see how easy we've had it.

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RE: Irene

2011-08-29 Thread Bob W
> Typhoon Nanmadol just skirted Northern Philippines as a cat-3 (killed
> 8) while Irene (also a cat-3) was going through the East Coast; it
> just took a breather (which means it could intensify) and is now on
> its way to Taiwan. CNN never said anything about it while BBC would
> mention it about a third of the time but in the same breath as Irene
> and Libya.
> 

that's because the Northern Phillipines aren't one of the world's major
financial centres. The size of the storm isn't what was important to the
press, the politicians and the emergency services - it's the scale of the
potential impact that matters. It's basic risk management.

B

> But hey--we're used to it!  I mean the typhoons, not necessarily the
> lack of media or even government attention.  But that may just be the
> point that it is so routine that it does get as much fuss as say the
> East Coast which just had an earthquake and a hurricane go through it.
>  My living memory has been peppered with category 3-5 typhoons EVERY
> year and my choice of residence and lifestyle revolves around them so
> I do not necessarily worry as much as others would but I appreciate
> being "over-warned" and "over-prepared".
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Re: Irene

2011-08-29 Thread David Mann
On Aug 29, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> Well, we'll just have to disagree on this one. I believe it was indeed much 
> ado about very little.

I'm not surprised it seems this way.  From what I saw it looked like they were 
expecting a lot worse than what actually happened.  With Katrina in their minds 
they would not have wanted to screw this up as doing so would guarantee losing 
the next election.

> The federal government declared New York a disaster area before it was a 
> disaster area


I did wonder about that :)  I wonder if it's a procedural thing as making 
declarations like that can free up certain sources of funding, give extra legal 
powers, allow civil defence / the armed forces / national guard to be 
mobilised, and all that sort of thing.

Cheers,
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RE: PESO - Fishy Falls

2011-08-29 Thread Bob W
> From: pdml-boun...@pdml.net [mailto:pdml-boun...@pdml.net] On Behalf Of
> Rick Womer
> 
> We took a trip to Toronto, via Rochester and Niagara Falls, in May.
> Here is a fisheye view of the falls from the Canadian side:
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=14104715&size=lg
> 

great shot!


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Re: GESO - Aerial Photography, Lake Eyre and Painted Hills

2011-08-29 Thread David Mann
On Aug 29, 2011, at 12:37 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

> I hope you enjoy this small selection:
> 
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1370864/Lake-Eyre/index.html

I certainly did enjoy it, such great photos of amazing scenery.  Love the 
Painted Hills especially.

Cheers,
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Re: NorCal PDML Meet

2011-08-29 Thread Eactivist
John, I could give you a ride, if you're still  in Walnut Creek. I am now 
in Concord. Our destination may not be that close to  public transit.

Not that we've settled on a destination yet.  ;-)

Okay, we've got a good-to-go from:  Larry, John Francis, John  Celio, 
Bruce, Godfrey and me.

Raises the question if Sasha, Marco, and  Pat are still around on list 
and/or would like to go. 

What, I  personally, would like to do is:  hold off on the destination 
question for  about two weeks, and that still gives us plenty of time to plan.  
Post a  NorCal meet announcement again in about a week and see if anyone 
else responds,  and start putting together a list of email addresses (including 
old ones). Then  take the discussion off list to brainstorm destinations.

Well, something  like that. Something like that time frame. We don't have 
to rush on planning  where... yet.

Anyway, it's a go for Oct. 29th. Great! MARK YOUR  CALENDARS. We're on!

Think of possible destinations and if I've forgotten  anyone that we might 
contact, please email me  privately.

Marnie   And I'll get to hold a K-5.  Heh.


In  a message dated 8/28/2011 8:18:09 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
n...@neovenator.com writes:
I'm free on that day and would love to meet up  with everyone. If we could 
pick a place that's not too far from public  transit, though, that'd be 
great. All I've got is my bicycle.

John  


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Re: NorCal PDML Meet

2011-08-29 Thread Larry Colen

On Aug 28, 2011, at 9:58 PM, John Francis wrote:
> 
> But here's one I rather like (probably because it's a shot I though
> of first, and worked hard to find the right vantage point):
> 
>http://www.jfwaf.com/temp/Sonoma.jpg

Great shot.  I can't see the markings clearly but are they the Angels?

> 
> I'll put a gallery up in the next day or so.

I'm looking forward to it.

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