Re: Lens road map

[David J Brooks]

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:05 PM, William Robb
 wrote:
> On 02/02/2012 10:45 AM, Miserere wrote:
>>
>>
>
>> Focal lengths are approximate and garnered from reading the tea leaves
>> in the images of the roadmap shown by Photographyblog. I'm sure Pentax
>> is being vague on purpose, most likely because many of them are
>> probably not even on the drawing board. The lenses, I mean, not the
>> Pentax employees.
>
>
> From the looks of the K-01, I'm starting to wonder if the average Pentax
> employee even knows what a drawing board is.
> Given a set of pictures of a variety of objects, lets say an oven, a car, a
> piano, a television, a washing machine and a drawing board, what % would
> correctly identify the drawing board?

The guy with the dry marker.??

Dave
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Re: K-01 for video

[Mark Roberts]

Paul Stenquist  wrote:

>Does it offer significant advantages over your K-5 in that regard? Some 
>additional frame rates is all I recall, but I didn't study the specs.

Yep. 24 fps is a biggie.


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Re: Lens road map

[Paul Stenquist]

Good news then in regard to long glass. No DFAs to be seen, but I'm  not sure 
that's a designation that Pentax would use, even if a full frame camera were on 
the way.  But longer glass and a 50mm lens tend to make one think full frame.
Paul
On Feb 2, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Tim Øsleby wrote:

> Looks like it's genuine.
> http://www.pentaximaging.com/files/pdf/lens_roadmap.pdf
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Re: K-01 for video

[Paul Stenquist]

On Feb 2, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>>> Well it's been almost 10 years since I last shot video seriously (grad
>>> school) but I always preferred manual focus. Autofocus kept switching
>>> from one point to another when panning static shots - most annoying -
>>> or picking the wrong focus point on moving subjects (or requiring me
>>> to keep the moving subject in the same point within the frame). I
>>> would suspect this camera would be better for serious video shooters
>>> and worse for soccer moms.
>> 
>> It would be okay for very serious video shooters, who attach a largish 
>> $2500) HD monitor
> 
> ... or an iPad :-)
> 
>> But probably not as good as some of the Canon offerings.
> 
> More money = better quality. Same as it ever was. I expect it will be
> at least as good as, if not better than, competitively priced DSLR
> competitors.
> 
> I'm really intrigued about the possibility of getting a K-01 to do
> some video shooting.

Does it offer significant advantages over your K-5 in that regard? Some 
additional frame rates is all I recall, but I didn't study the specs.
Paul
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Re: PESO: Panache

[Walt Gilbert]

On 2/2/2012 11:24 AM, Don Guthrie wrote:
Well Walt IMHO you could post that anywhere without hesitation or 
apology and thanks for posting it here.

Thank you, Don!

I appreciate the vote of confidence! :)

-- Walt








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Hi all,

I was combing through my archives (as it were) and came across an image
and thought I should get some input on it.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6804662591/

It was shot with my K-x using the K-50/1.4 -- beyond that, I haven't the
foggiest clue as to the technical deets. My guess is that the aperture
is set at f/2 and the ISO would probably be somewhere in the
neighborhood of 1600 given the conditions (sitting in a dimly lit bar),
not using flash (I'm constitutionally incapable most times), with a
fairly slow shutter speed (1/50 or thereabouts).

In any event, I'm looking for possible submissions to the PDML annual
and wondered if anyone thought this might be a potentially worthy 
candidate.


Thanks!

-- Walt






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Re: PESO: Panache

[Walt Gilbert]

Thanks, Steven!

My biggest concern about the image was that it might be a bit cliche, so 
being odd is a definite (cliche/pun alert!) feather in my cap.


-- Walt

On 2/2/2012 12:30 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:

What an odd image!  The clarity is wonderful.  I find the rendering of
the fingers striking.

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:

Hi all,

I was combing through my archives (as it were) and came across an image and
thought I should get some input on it.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6804662591/

It was shot with my K-x using the K-50/1.4 -- beyond that, I haven't the
foggiest clue as to the technical deets. My guess is that the aperture is
set at f/2 and the ISO would probably be somewhere in the neighborhood of
1600 given the conditions (sitting in a dimly lit bar), not using flash (I'm
constitutionally incapable most times), with a fairly slow shutter speed
(1/50 or thereabouts).

In any event, I'm looking for possible submissions to the PDML annual and
wondered if anyone thought this might be a potentially worthy candidate.

Thanks!

-- Walt

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Re: Lens road map

[DagT]

Just dreaming…

Den 2. feb. 2012 kl. 19:25 skrev John Francis:

> 
> Nope - the shots of the roadmap show the 50mm lens positioned
> right at the join of the 18-50 and 50-135, at a real 50mm.
> 
> On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 06:04:57PM +0100, DagT wrote:
>> DA standard 50mm? I guess someone is confusing with equivalents. Maybe a 
>> DA*31mm 1.8? :-)
>> DA zoom Limited sounds like a contradiction in terms.
>> 
>> DagT
>> 
>> Den 2. feb. 2012 kl. 17:45 skrev Miserere:
>> 
>>> On 2 February 2012 10:35, Tim ?sleby  wrote:
 Don't know about the authentasy of this, (I'm at work and can't check it 
 out)
 http://www.photographyblog.com/news/pentax_k-mount_lens_roadmap/
 
 --
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Photographyblog is saying they saw the new Pentax lens roadmap at the
>>> K-01 unveiling in the UK. Here's what's in store (subject to change,
>>> the whims of Pentax gods, market situation, etc.):
>>> 
>>> 2012:
>>> 
>>> -  DA Standard lens (50mm)
>>> -  DA High magnification zoom lens (18-200mm)
>>> -  DA Telephoto lens (550mm)
>>> 
>>> 2013:
>>> 
>>> -  DA Ltd zoom (24-38mm)
>>> -  DA Telephoto zoom (125-375mm)
>>> -  DA Wideangle zoom (12-28mm)
>>> -  DA Zoom (18-120mm)
>>> -  DA AF RC 1.4x teleconverter
>>> 
>>> Focal lengths are approximate and garnered from reading the tea leaves
>>> in the images of the roadmap shown by Photographyblog. I'm sure Pentax
>>> is being vague on purpose, most likely because many of them are
>>> probably not even on the drawing board. The lenses, I mean, not the
>>> Pentax employees.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  ?M.
>>> 
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>>> 
>>>   http://EnticingTheLight.com
>>>   A Quest for Photographic Enlightenment

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Re: Lens road map

[Dario Bonazza]

Igor Roshchin wrote:


What does RC stand for besides "Radio Control"?


Rear Converter

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K-01 and the problem of "design"

[steve harley]

i read the press release and watch the linked video interview



alas the hype about visual aspects of the design and the reputation of the 
designer is front and center, a huge mistake in my view


the interview with Mark Newson is helpful because as he handles the camera i 
got a better impression of it; the camera looks fairly usable within the 
constraints of "no viewfinder" and "not small" — those constraints are 
challenging and i wish more had been made of them; there is more sense of the 
handling in this video:




however i was unimpressed with Newson's presentation; he didn't convince me of 
his sincerity and dedication to the project, and i heard no real purity of 
vision; i most respect designers whose foundation is philosophy and whose 
mandate is functionality, such as some architects & typographers; there's a 
thread of this purity i seek in some web design too; industrial design is 
rarely so pure, though i think Apple has achieved a remarkable standard in 
physical design; the K-01 (or as Newson says, kay-oh-one) is almost a statement 
about making statements; a neo-modernist design with some major compromises 
(rubber door?); if it shipped flat it might be an Ikea camera ...


Newson is not an in-house designer, and for this (presumably) one-off project 
he probably had Pentax marketing breathing down his neck; he's used massive, 
simple forms, which are promising — if those blocky controls are as functional 
and durable as they signal, that will be something


but these two quotes from the interview seem shallow to me, and make me 
suspicious of the whole project:


"the inspiration behind this design ... is simply the desire to want to create 
something which, as a consumer, I myself would like to own, or would like to 
purchase"


"I wanted to present an _image_ of quality, and of expertise" (emphasis mine)

in the following statement, if he had said "innovation" instead of 
"individuality", i would have been more hopeful:


"i think the consumers will be happy that we've given them a choice,
because i don't see an enormous amount of _individuality_ in the marketplace" 
(emphasis mine)


so that's my critique of the hype; i do also see some hope in the design, that 
it may put a counterpoint to the chorus of "smaller is better"



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Re: PESO: Panache

[Walt Gilbert]

On 2/2/2012 11:38 AM, Rick Womer wrote:

I really like this pic, Walt, not only for the lighting, DOF, and composition, 
but also for the contrast between the rough, weathered hands and the delicate 
feather.

Rick
  
http://photo.net/photos/RickW

Many thanks, Rick!

That contrast between the hands and the feather was what caught my eye, 
too.  The feather has some imperfections, so it wasn't really all that 
suitable as a subject in its own right. But, the contrast with the hand 
made it a more compelling image to my eye.


-- Walt




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Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2012 10:11 PM
Subject: PESO: Panache

Hi all,

I was combing through my archives (as it were) and came across an image and 
thought I should get some input on it.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6804662591/

It was shot with my K-x using the K-50/1.4 -- beyond that, I haven't the 
foggiest clue as to the technical deets. My guess is that the aperture is set 
at f/2 and the ISO would probably be somewhere in the neighborhood of 1600 
given the conditions (sitting in a dimly lit bar), not using flash (I'm 
constitutionally incapable most times), with a fairly slow shutter speed (1/50 
or thereabouts).

In any event, I'm looking for possible submissions to the PDML annual and 
wondered if anyone thought this might be a potentially worthy candidate.

Thanks!

-- Walt

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Re: Lens road map

[John Francis]

On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 12:17:15PM -0500, Igor Roshchin wrote:
> 
> Thu Feb 2 11:45:31 EST 2012
> Miserere wrote:
> 
> > 2013:
> > 
> >   -  DA AF RC 1.4x teleconverter
> 
> What does RC stand for besides "Radio Control"?

I'd bet on something like "range converter".  With in-body SR,
and zoom lenses, a teleconverter that corrected the reported
focal length as you zoomed would be really handy.

That's the offering that I find most interesting; there's not a lot
else that would tempt me (except, possibly, the long telephoto).

I'm wondering, though, if the "AF" in the name means simply that
this will work with AF lenses (which seems redundant; it already
identifies itself as part of the "DA" family), or whether this is
a product similar to the highly-regarded F 1.7x AF.



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Re: PESO: Panache

[Walt Gilbert]

On 2/2/2012 8:53 AM, David J Brooks wrote:

Love it

Dave

Thank you, Dave! :)

-- Walt



On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:

Hi all,

I was combing through my archives (as it were) and came across an image and
thought I should get some input on it.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6804662591/

It was shot with my K-x using the K-50/1.4 -- beyond that, I haven't the
foggiest clue as to the technical deets. My guess is that the aperture is
set at f/2 and the ISO would probably be somewhere in the neighborhood of
1600 given the conditions (sitting in a dimly lit bar), not using flash (I'm
constitutionally incapable most times), with a fairly slow shutter speed
(1/50 or thereabouts).

In any event, I'm looking for possible submissions to the PDML annual and
wondered if anyone thought this might be a potentially worthy candidate.

Thanks!

-- Walt

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Re: PESO: Panache

[Walt Gilbert]

Thanks again, Ann!

I see what you mean. My biggest challenge in making more changes is that 
I'm not good enough with my software to be able to consistently 
replicate the rendering. So, it's going to take some fiddling around, 
but I'll keep at it and see what I can do. At this point, I'm kind of 
inclined to leave things as they are and just let the image be a little 
smaller if it's printed in the annual rather than risk changing it too 
much from the initial rendering for the sake of scale.


I did a little reading on "The Four Feathers" last night, and it does 
sound interesting. Apparently, it's been reproduced in film and on the 
stage quite a few times -- so it must have something going for it. :)


Thanks again for the input. If I can manage to get it right, I'll upload 
a different crop and hope it comes across in print somewhere close to 
the way it comes across on my monitor.


-- Walt

On 2/2/2012 9:38 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:

Walt, as always you should consider how you view it..
I find the horizontal crop interesting - but prefer the portrait 
orientation for the same reason Larry does - what I find distracting is
just the tippy top white blobs as they draw your eye away from the 
feather.


what is intersting is that no matter how you crop it,it holds the 
viewers interest.


I didn't know about Harry (Henry Five) and the feather (but it must 
have been of note in the film as it is about bravery vs cowardice in 
battle ).


When I nit-pick anyone's photo I would never bother if it were
not something I found intesting and try to approach it from a
what would I do if I had shot this point of view. Sometimes
that's a good thing, sometimes it doesn't work because we aint on the 
same page at all.


Now go rent the original Ralph Richardson "the Four feathers" from 
Netflix and see why your photo would serve it well as a jewel box

cover :-)

ann


On 2/2/2012 03:07, Walt Gilbert wrote:

On 2/2/2012 1:45 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting Walt Gilbert :


On 2/2/2012 1:00 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



On 2/1/2012 10:44 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:
Here's a re-crop. I tried to replicate the original look as much 
as I

could using what tools I have at my disposal (GIMP and Picasa),
though I
got the shadows a bit darker in this one.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6805434841/


I think you took too much off the top. I much preferred the
composition with the feather closer to the left edge. On the left,
I'd leave just a little space past the knuckle. On the top you could
crop it square, you could crop it just below the lights at the top
(which didn't bother me, and they kind of frame the picture), and/or
you could burn in the lights a the top a bit, so make them a little
darker so they don't stand out quite so much.

Or you can just go with what looks good to you because no matter
what you do, some people will like it more, others less.



I sort of liked the original crop a little better, too -- and agree
with the lighter area at the top helping to frame the image a bit and
break up the negative space. I'll see what I can do with a square
crop, but don't know how that would look in a book if it were
actually published.




Well, if you only submit one photo it is guaranteed to be published 
:-)>


I agree with Larry that the re-crop is a bit too much. A bit off the
top (just below that light 'blob') and a tad off the right is how I
would do it. But - what works for you is the main thing.




I think I'll probably just go ahead and stick with the portrait
orientation of the first one. When I reverted back to the original RAW
image, I discovered that the reason I cropped it that way was because
there was another white blob in the upper-right corner that made it look
just a little too busy across the top. But, if I crop it square or
horizontal, there just doesn't appear to be a better option than the
vertical orientation.

But, I didn't realize I was guaranteed to have at least one photo
published. I should probably stop where I am and leave things be in that
case.

Thanks for the input!

-- Walt






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Re: K-01 for video

[Larry Colen]

On Feb 2, 2012, at 8:16 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> 
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:00 AM, William Robb wrote:
>> 
>>> On 02/02/2012 9:50 AM, David Savage wrote:
 You know those big movie cameras they use in Hollywood? They're manual 
 focus.
 
>>> Amateurs don't do video the same way pros do. Amateurs tend to do much 
>>> longer takes with more (sickeningly bad) attempts at panning or zooming to 
>>> follow a moving subject.
>>> 
>> 
>> Exactly. And amateurs don't work with professional actors whose movements 
>> are blocked out ahead of time. More importantly, if you're filming your kids 
>> soccer game, you don't get to do ten takes. One time when I worked with the 
>> director Terry Windell shooting the actor, Ed Herrmann for a Dodge 
>> television control that required Ed to hit six spots on the stage while 
>> speaking about twenty words. After 21 takes where either Ed or the camera 
>> operator failed to get it right, the usually very dignified Mr. Herrmann 
>> said something very bad about his deceased mother. Everyone stared at their 
>> shoes. 
>> Paul
>> 
> 
> Gawd. Have to read my posts before hitting send.

It'd be even worse if anyone read them after you hit send.

> That should have been "I once worked with the director Terry Windell..."   
> and it was a Dodge "television commercial."
> 

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Re: PESO The Two (just don't expect much!)

[Steven Desjardins]

Wow, you really do live in the sticks.

It is nicely done. BTW

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:41 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Nice pic. I concur on the crop.
>
> On Feb 1, 2012, at 2:46 AM, Bulent Celasun wrote:
>
>> Thank you all, friends.
>>
>> The cropping suggestions sound good, I believe.
>>
>> Don't know about sheep but our dog has "treated" the spot right after
>> my shooting!
>>
>> Bulent
>>
>> -
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/bc_the_path/
>> http://photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=2226822
>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/bulentcelasun
>>
>>
>>
>> 2012/2/1 Larry Colen :
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/31/2012 10:30 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

 Quoting Bulent Celasun :

> I was out, on snow, yesterday...
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=15075193




 Just shows that it's possible to make a good photo out of almost
 anything - if the light is right.

 I might have cropped a bit off the top and on the right.
>>>
>>>
>>> I concur.
>>>
>>> I'm trying to resist the impulse to mention sheep so I can make a "sticks
>>> with ewe" joke.
>>>
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Re: PESO: Panache

[Steven Desjardins]

What an odd image!  The clarity is wonderful.  I find the rendering of
the fingers striking.

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I was combing through my archives (as it were) and came across an image and
> thought I should get some input on it.
>
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6804662591/
>
> It was shot with my K-x using the K-50/1.4 -- beyond that, I haven't the
> foggiest clue as to the technical deets. My guess is that the aperture is
> set at f/2 and the ISO would probably be somewhere in the neighborhood of
> 1600 given the conditions (sitting in a dimly lit bar), not using flash (I'm
> constitutionally incapable most times), with a fairly slow shutter speed
> (1/50 or thereabouts).
>
> In any event, I'm looking for possible submissions to the PDML annual and
> wondered if anyone thought this might be a potentially worthy candidate.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -- Walt
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Re: K-01 Press Release and Specs

[Steven Desjardins]

The little hole is to fit an inflation nipple like for a basketball.
Add some air and it turns into a K5.

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 4:31 AM, Brian Walters wrote:
>
>> Well, the rumors were pretty much on target.
>>
>> Here's the Press Release and summary of specifications:
>>
>> http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/02/02/Pentax_K-01_announcement#press
>
> Not as good as I'd hoped, nor as bad as I'd feared.
>>
>>
>> Things of interest to me:
>>
>> No eye level viewfinder and apparently no clip on one either :-(>
>
> That is easily solved in the aftermarket.
>
>>
>> Compatible with M42 lenses (with adapter)
>>
>> Max ISO 25600
>>
>> No Sv mode
>
> No TAv mode either.
>
>>
>> At $750 body only, I'll be taking a close look when it becomes available in 
>> March but I'll really need to be convinced that the LCD screen is usable as 
>> a viewfinder in bright sunlight.
>
> One thing that really annoys me about it, is that they gratuitously rotated 
> the function buttons on the back.  I have enough trouble switching between 
> the K-5 and the K-x, now they've thrown in another randomization of the 
> buttons for no good reason.
>
> As someone who pockets both K-x and a K-5 with the DA40, I'll say that the 
> two bodies straddle the line of convenience for fitting into a cargo pocket. 
> Saving just a bit on size could make a big difference in convenience.
>
> The 27mm filter size of the new lens is a bit of a bother, if they had gone 
> with 49mm (like the DA40) it could have used the DA40 sunshade, and shared 
> filters with all the other Pentax primes.  Having the filter threads that far 
> from the edge could be a pain when using a polarizer, but then, if they were 
> larger, focusing could be a challenge too.  I wonder if the lenscap will have 
> a large flange to make it easily fit, or for that matter if I can use my film 
> cap lens caps on it.
>
> Live view on the K-05 really sucks because of the long lag when you press the 
> shutter while it shifts modes twice.  A usable live view would be the biggest 
> reason for me to get this camera.
>
> It is interesting that people are complaining about it being EVIL without the 
> shorter registration distance. Note that there is no reason why a short 
> registration distance EVIL body couldn't be released later.
>
> I wonder what the hole at 10 O'clock, above the lens and under the "P" in 
> this picture is:
> http://1.s.img-dpreview.com/files/news/4846894009/K-01_Black_3QView.jpg?v=1322
> I'll guess microphone.
>
>>
>>
>>
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>> ++
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Re: Lens road map

[John Francis]

Nope - the shots of the roadmap show the 50mm lens positioned
right at the join of the 18-50 and 50-135, at a real 50mm.

On Thu, Feb 02, 2012 at 06:04:57PM +0100, DagT wrote:
> DA standard 50mm? I guess someone is confusing with equivalents. Maybe a 
> DA*31mm 1.8? :-)
> DA zoom Limited sounds like a contradiction in terms.
> 
> DagT
> 
> Den 2. feb. 2012 kl. 17:45 skrev Miserere:
> 
> > On 2 February 2012 10:35, Tim ?sleby  wrote:
> >> Don't know about the authentasy of this, (I'm at work and can't check it 
> >> out)
> >> http://www.photographyblog.com/news/pentax_k-mount_lens_roadmap/
> >> 
> >> --
> >> MaritimTim
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Photographyblog is saying they saw the new Pentax lens roadmap at the
> > K-01 unveiling in the UK. Here's what's in store (subject to change,
> > the whims of Pentax gods, market situation, etc.):
> > 
> > 2012:
> > 
> >  -  DA Standard lens (50mm)
> >  -  DA High magnification zoom lens (18-200mm)
> >  -  DA Telephoto lens (550mm)
> > 
> > 2013:
> > 
> >  -  DA Ltd zoom (24-38mm)
> >  -  DA Telephoto zoom (125-375mm)
> >  -  DA Wideangle zoom (12-28mm)
> >  -  DA Zoom (18-120mm)
> >  -  DA AF RC 1.4x teleconverter
> > 
> > Focal lengths are approximate and garnered from reading the tea leaves
> > in the images of the roadmap shown by Photographyblog. I'm sure Pentax
> > is being vague on purpose, most likely because many of them are
> > probably not even on the drawing board. The lenses, I mean, not the
> > Pentax employees.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > 
> >   ?M.
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Re: K-01 is here...

[Mark Roberts]

Steven Desjardins  wrote:

>BTW, I can't find any info on whether this thing will AF with the old
>screw drive lenses.  Anybody?

Yup. Photos show the lens mount does have the screw-drive mechanism.

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Re: What to call the new camera

[William Robb]

On 02/02/2012 11:49 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

Keeping in mind that it was named by Japanese, the K-01 (Kay-Zero-Wun
in english) would probably be pronounced Kay-Ray-eeCHEE in Japanese.
(Rei being the japanese word for Zero and ichi being the japanese word
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Re: K-01 Press Release and Specs

[Larry Colen]

On Feb 2, 2012, at 4:31 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

> Well, the rumors were pretty much on target.
> 
> Here's the Press Release and summary of specifications:
> 
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/02/02/Pentax_K-01_announcement#press

Not as good as I'd hoped, nor as bad as I'd feared.
> 
> 
> Things of interest to me:
> 
> No eye level viewfinder and apparently no clip on one either :-(>

That is easily solved in the aftermarket.

> 
> Compatible with M42 lenses (with adapter)
> 
> Max ISO 25600
> 
> No Sv mode

No TAv mode either.

> 
> At $750 body only, I'll be taking a close look when it becomes available in 
> March but I'll really need to be convinced that the LCD screen is usable as a 
> viewfinder in bright sunlight.

One thing that really annoys me about it, is that they gratuitously rotated the 
function buttons on the back.  I have enough trouble switching between the K-5 
and the K-x, now they've thrown in another randomization of the buttons for no 
good reason.

As someone who pockets both K-x and a K-5 with the DA40, I'll say that the two 
bodies straddle the line of convenience for fitting into a cargo pocket. Saving 
just a bit on size could make a big difference in convenience.

The 27mm filter size of the new lens is a bit of a bother, if they had gone 
with 49mm (like the DA40) it could have used the DA40 sunshade, and shared 
filters with all the other Pentax primes.  Having the filter threads that far 
from the edge could be a pain when using a polarizer, but then, if they were 
larger, focusing could be a challenge too.  I wonder if the lenscap will have a 
large flange to make it easily fit, or for that matter if I can use my film cap 
lens caps on it.

Live view on the K-05 really sucks because of the long lag when you press the 
shutter while it shifts modes twice.  A usable live view would be the biggest 
reason for me to get this camera.

It is interesting that people are complaining about it being EVIL without the 
shorter registration distance. Note that there is no reason why a short 
registration distance EVIL body couldn't be released later.

I wonder what the hole at 10 O'clock, above the lens and under the "P" in this 
picture is:
http://1.s.img-dpreview.com/files/news/4846894009/K-01_Black_3QView.jpg?v=1322
I'll guess microphone.

> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
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Re: Lens road map

[Tim Øsleby]

Looks like it's genuine.
http://www.pentaximaging.com/files/pdf/lens_roadmap.pdf

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Re: K-01 is here...

[Steven Desjardins]

BTW, I can't find any info on whether this thing will AF with the old
screw drive lenses.  Anybody?

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> I could see the following strategy.  Put a really good sensor and
> electronics into a minimalist body and sell it as cheap as you can in
> a K mount body.  Don't worry about size or weather sealing or any of
> that stuff.   High IQ and low price are the only notable features.
> Maybe they were trying for this.  A clip-on EVF for extra money would
> have been a good touch and probably sold pretty well.  Olympus did
> that with some success.  As is, I'm starting to think about how much I
> could get from selling the K7.
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>>
>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:21 AM, William Robb wrote:
>>
>>> On 02/02/2012 8:57 AM, p. j. alling wrote:
 and look at what you're missing, you could have Obama as your President 
 too...

>>> Better him than Harper (BTW, we have Prime Ministers).
>>
>> How retro, it seems everything else comes with zooms.
>>
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Re: K-01 is here...

[Steven Desjardins]

I could see the following strategy.  Put a really good sensor and
electronics into a minimalist body and sell it as cheap as you can in
a K mount body.  Don't worry about size or weather sealing or any of
that stuff.   High IQ and low price are the only notable features.
Maybe they were trying for this.  A clip-on EVF for extra money would
have been a good touch and probably sold pretty well.  Olympus did
that with some success.  As is, I'm starting to think about how much I
could get from selling the K7.

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:21 AM, William Robb wrote:
>
>> On 02/02/2012 8:57 AM, p. j. alling wrote:
>>> and look at what you're missing, you could have Obama as your President 
>>> too...
>>>
>> Better him than Harper (BTW, we have Prime Ministers).
>
> How retro, it seems everything else comes with zooms.
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Re: K-01 for video

[Mark Roberts]

Paul Stenquist  wrote:

>On Feb 2, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>> Well it's been almost 10 years since I last shot video seriously (grad
>> school) but I always preferred manual focus. Autofocus kept switching
>> from one point to another when panning static shots - most annoying -
>> or picking the wrong focus point on moving subjects (or requiring me
>> to keep the moving subject in the same point within the frame). I
>> would suspect this camera would be better for serious video shooters
>> and worse for soccer moms.
>
>It would be okay for very serious video shooters, who attach a largish $2500) 
>HD monitor

... or an iPad :-)

>But probably not as good as some of the Canon offerings.

More money = better quality. Same as it ever was. I expect it will be
at least as good as, if not better than, competitively priced DSLR
competitors.

I'm really intrigued about the possibility of getting a K-01 to do
some video shooting.


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Re: What to call the new camera

[Darren Addy]

Keeping in mind that it was named by Japanese, the K-01 (Kay-Zero-Wun
in english) would probably be pronounced Kay-Ray-eeCHEE in Japanese.
(Rei being the japanese word for Zero and ichi being the japanese word
for one)

Darren Addy
Kearney, Nebraska

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> At first I was reading the name in leet, and was going to call it a Koi,  but 
> realized we should take the lead of our friends across the pond and call it 
> "The noughty one".
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Re: K-01 for video

[Paul Stenquist]

On Feb 2, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:29 AM, Darren Addy wrote:
>> 
 But it won't autofocus in video mode.
>>> 
>>> In a thread on PF somebody posted that it does, but I haven't had time
>>> to track down if they were correct or simply talking out their arse.
>>> (If they WERE talking out their arse they possess the main
>>> characteristic needed to be a contributing PDML member).
>> 
>> They may just have meant that it will autofocus initially in video mode. The 
>> K-5 does that as well. But if the subject moves, your on your own with only 
>> an lcd screen to guide you and a short throw lens barrel with which to focus.
> 
> Well it's been almost 10 years since I last shot video seriously (grad
> school) but I always preferred manual focus. Autofocus kept switching
> from one point to another when panning static shots - most annoying -
> or picking the wrong focus point on moving subjects (or requiring me
> to keep the moving subject in the same point within the frame). I
> would suspect this camera would be better for serious video shooters
> and worse for soccer moms.
> 

It would be okay for very serious video shooters, who attach a largish $2500) 
HD monitor for focusing. But probably not as good as some of the Canon 
offerings.

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Re: K-01 for video

[Paul Stenquist]

On Feb 2, 2012, at 12:02 PM, William Robb wrote:

> On 02/02/2012 10:41 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> 
>> 
> 
>>> I didn't think you'd blocked me.:)
>> 
>> Of coure not :-)
> 
> You probably rubberneck car crashes to.

Too. No, they're not as amusing. 

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Re: K-01 for video

[Mark Roberts]

Paul Stenquist  wrote:

>On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:29 AM, Darren Addy wrote:
>
>>> But it won't autofocus in video mode.
>> 
>> In a thread on PF somebody posted that it does, but I haven't had time
>> to track down if they were correct or simply talking out their arse.
>> (If they WERE talking out their arse they possess the main
>> characteristic needed to be a contributing PDML member).
>
>They may just have meant that it will autofocus initially in video mode. The 
>K-5 does that as well. But if the subject moves, your on your own with only an 
>lcd screen to guide you and a short throw lens barrel with which to focus.

Well it's been almost 10 years since I last shot video seriously (grad
school) but I always preferred manual focus. Autofocus kept switching
from one point to another when panning static shots - most annoying -
or picking the wrong focus point on moving subjects (or requiring me
to keep the moving subject in the same point within the frame). I
would suspect this camera would be better for serious video shooters
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Re: PESO: Panache

[Rick Womer]

I really like this pic, Walt, not only for the lighting, DOF, and composition, 
but also for the contrast between the rough, weathered hands and the delicate 
feather.

Rick
 
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Subject: PESO: Panache

Hi all,

I was combing through my archives (as it were) and came across an image and 
thought I should get some input on it.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6804662591/

It was shot with my K-x using the K-50/1.4 -- beyond that, I haven't the 
foggiest clue as to the technical deets. My guess is that the aperture is set 
at f/2 and the ISO would probably be somewhere in the neighborhood of 1600 
given the conditions (sitting in a dimly lit bar), not using flash (I'm 
constitutionally incapable most times), with a fairly slow shutter speed (1/50 
or thereabouts).

In any event, I'm looking for possible submissions to the PDML annual and 
wondered if anyone thought this might be a potentially worthy candidate.

Thanks!

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Re: K-01 is here...

[Larry Colen]

On Feb 2, 2012, at 7:21 AM, William Robb wrote:

> On 02/02/2012 8:57 AM, p. j. alling wrote:
>> and look at what you're missing, you could have Obama as your President 
>> too...
>> 
> Better him than Harper (BTW, we have Prime Ministers).

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PESO: Panache

[Don Guthrie]

Well Walt IMHO you could post that anywhere without hesitation or 
apology and thanks for posting it here.







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Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2012 21:11:04 -0600
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Hi all,

I was combing through my archives (as it were) and came across an image
and thought I should get some input on it.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6804662591/

It was shot with my K-x using the K-50/1.4 -- beyond that, I haven't the
foggiest clue as to the technical deets. My guess is that the aperture
is set at f/2 and the ISO would probably be somewhere in the
neighborhood of 1600 given the conditions (sitting in a dimly lit bar),
not using flash (I'm constitutionally incapable most times), with a
fairly slow shutter speed (1/50 or thereabouts).

In any event, I'm looking for possible submissions to the PDML annual
and wondered if anyone thought this might be a potentially worthy candidate.

Thanks!

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Re: Lens road map

[Igor Roshchin]

Thu Feb 2 11:45:31 EST 2012
Miserere wrote:

> On 2 February 2012 10:35, Tim .sleby  wrote:
> > Don't know about the authentasy of this, (I'm at work and can't check
> > it out)
> > http://www.photographyblog.com/news/pentax_k-mount_lens_roadmap/
> >
> > --
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> 
> 
> 
> Photographyblog is saying they saw the new Pentax lens roadmap at the
> K-01 unveiling in the UK. Here's what's in store (subject to change,
> the whims of Pentax gods, market situation, etc.):
> 
> 2012:
> 
>   -  DA Standard lens (50mm)
>   -  DA High magnification zoom lens (18-200mm)
>   -  DA Telephoto lens (550mm)

I wonder if it will be a mirror lens.

> 
> 2013:
> 
>   -  DA Ltd zoom (24-38mm)

That'd be indeed a very LIMITED zoom. :-)

>   -  DA Telephoto zoom (125-375mm)
Looking at K-01, I think Pentax can go more creative, and make something
like 123-369mm.

>   -  DA Wideangle zoom (12-28mm)
>   -  DA Zoom (18-120mm)
>   -  DA AF RC 1.4x teleconverter

What does RC stand for besides "Radio Control"?
Right-Coated? Red-Coated? Rear-Coated? Rarely-Coated? Really-Coated?
Or, is it related to RC Lens: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RC_Lens ?


> 
> Focal lengths are approximate and garnered from reading the tea leaves
> in the images of the roadmap shown by Photographyblog. I'm sure Pentax
> is being vague on purpose, most likely because many of them are
> probably not even on the drawing board. The lenses, I mean, not the
> Pentax employees.
> 

Surprisingly, 11-16mm f2.8, that was allegedly co-developed with 
Tokina  is not on the map.


One personal thing: I am happy to see that 77/1.8 is still on that map.
I might ultimately buy it..

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What to call the new camera

[Larry Colen]

At first I was reading the name in leet, and was going to call it a Koi,  but 
realized we should take the lead of our friends across the pond and call it 
"The noughty one".

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Re: PESO - The Gentleman

[Don Guthrie]

Yeah my wife fell in love with me when I un-snarelled her Zebco fishing 
reel.

And Frank my wife likes your picture too.




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or,, undoing a knot.:-)

Well captured Frank

Dave

On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 9:45 PM, frank theriault
 wrote:

In Canada, a gentleman always ties his lady's skates:

http://knarfinthecity.blogspot.com/2012/01/gentleman.html

Hope you enjoy. ?Comments always welcome.

cheers,
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Re: Lens road map

[William Robb]

On 02/02/2012 10:45 AM, Miserere wrote:





Focal lengths are approximate and garnered from reading the tea leaves
in the images of the roadmap shown by Photographyblog. I'm sure Pentax
is being vague on purpose, most likely because many of them are
probably not even on the drawing board. The lenses, I mean, not the
Pentax employees.


From the looks of the K-01, I'm starting to wonder if the average 
Pentax employee even knows what a drawing board is.
Given a set of pictures of a variety of objects, lets say an oven, a 
car, a piano, a television, a washing machine and a drawing board, what 
% would correctly identify the drawing board?


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Re: Lens road map

[DagT]

DA standard 50mm? I guess someone is confusing with equivalents. Maybe a 
DA*31mm 1.8? :-)
DA zoom Limited sounds like a contradiction in terms.

DagT

Den 2. feb. 2012 kl. 17:45 skrev Miserere:

> On 2 February 2012 10:35, Tim Øsleby  wrote:
>> Don't know about the authentasy of this, (I'm at work and can't check it out)
>> http://www.photographyblog.com/news/pentax_k-mount_lens_roadmap/
>> 
>> --
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> 
> 
> 
> Photographyblog is saying they saw the new Pentax lens roadmap at the
> K-01 unveiling in the UK. Here's what's in store (subject to change,
> the whims of Pentax gods, market situation, etc.):
> 
> 2012:
> 
>  -  DA Standard lens (50mm)
>  -  DA High magnification zoom lens (18-200mm)
>  -  DA Telephoto lens (550mm)
> 
> 2013:
> 
>  -  DA Ltd zoom (24-38mm)
>  -  DA Telephoto zoom (125-375mm)
>  -  DA Wideangle zoom (12-28mm)
>  -  DA Zoom (18-120mm)
>  -  DA AF RC 1.4x teleconverter
> 
> Focal lengths are approximate and garnered from reading the tea leaves
> in the images of the roadmap shown by Photographyblog. I'm sure Pentax
> is being vague on purpose, most likely because many of them are
> probably not even on the drawing board. The lenses, I mean, not the
> Pentax employees.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
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Re: K-01 for video

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On 02/02/2012 10:41 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:






I didn't think you'd blocked me.:)


Of coure not :-)


You probably rubberneck car crashes to.

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Re: K-01 is here...

[Tom C]

> I just watched a small portion of an interview of the designer of the
> K-01. He mentioned very early on that he had never designed a camera
> before. At that point, I decided that my initial suspicions had been
> confirmed and watched no further.
> If the K-01 was a wristwatch, it would be worn like a dog collar and
> wouldn't tell time.
> Anyone who thinks the Q is useless, well, at least it's small, and might
> find a niche because of that. The K-01 is not only fugly, without a
> viewfinder it is next to useless as a camera.
> Pentax may have shot themselves in the foot with the Q, but with the
> K-01 they sawed their leg off above the knee.
>

> William Robb

Unfortunately this appears to be a case of producing a large sensor
mirror-less camera for the sake of producing a large sensor
mirror-less camera. Putting a foot, any foot, down in that market
segment.

It was likely relatively quick, easy, and cost-efficient, and with
mostly the K-5's guts, will probably have similar performance
characteristics to the K-5, which is not a bad thing.

I wouldn't say it's next to useless without a viewfinder... the vast
majority of digital camera sold don't have a viewfinder and they
capture images to the satisfaction of their users. I get your point
though. Were it to have a built-in viewfinder of any kind, it would be
a camera I'd consider.

This doesn't attract precisely people like you, myself, and many
others who already have a full featured Pentax DSLR that's closely
spec'd to the K-01. It offers little to no reason buy in.

If it had a higher resolution sensor and a viewfinder I'd be
interested. It's not pretty but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Overall an easy way for Pentax to enter the market segment, if not inspiring.

Tom C.

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Re: Lens road map

[Miserere]

On 2 February 2012 10:35, Tim Øsleby  wrote:
> Don't know about the authentasy of this, (I'm at work and can't check it out)
> http://www.photographyblog.com/news/pentax_k-mount_lens_roadmap/
>
> --
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Photographyblog is saying they saw the new Pentax lens roadmap at the
K-01 unveiling in the UK. Here's what's in store (subject to change,
the whims of Pentax gods, market situation, etc.):

2012:

  -  DA Standard lens (50mm)
  -  DA High magnification zoom lens (18-200mm)
  -  DA Telephoto lens (550mm)

2013:

  -  DA Ltd zoom (24-38mm)
  -  DA Telephoto zoom (125-375mm)
  -  DA Wideangle zoom (12-28mm)
  -  DA Zoom (18-120mm)
  -  DA AF RC 1.4x teleconverter

Focal lengths are approximate and garnered from reading the tea leaves
in the images of the roadmap shown by Photographyblog. I'm sure Pentax
is being vague on purpose, most likely because many of them are
probably not even on the drawing board. The lenses, I mean, not the
Pentax employees.

Cheers,


   —M.

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Re: K-01 for video

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On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:36 AM, William Robb wrote:

> On 02/02/2012 10:10 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> 
>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:00 AM, William Robb wrote:
>> 
>>> On 02/02/2012 9:50 AM, David Savage wrote:
 You know those big movie cameras they use in Hollywood? They're manual 
 focus.
 
>>> Amateurs don't do video the same way pros do. Amateurs tend to do much 
>>> longer takes with more (sickeningly bad) attempts at panning or zooming to 
>>> follow a moving subject.
>>> 
>> 
>> Exactly. And amateurs don't work with...
> 
> I didn't think you'd blocked me.:)

Of coure not :-)
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Re: K-01 for video

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On 02/02/2012 10:10 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:


On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:00 AM, William Robb wrote:


On 02/02/2012 9:50 AM, David Savage wrote:

You know those big movie cameras they use in Hollywood? They're manual focus.


Amateurs don't do video the same way pros do. Amateurs tend to do much longer 
takes with more (sickeningly bad) attempts at panning or zooming to follow a 
moving subject.



Exactly. And amateurs don't work with...


I didn't think you'd blocked me.:)

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Re: K-01 for video

[Ann Sanfedele]

ns I presume Ed  said something very bad about the cameraman's deceased 
mother, not his own mother :-)


(but I love it when I'm not the only one (besides Brooksie, of course) 
who makes these gaffs :-)


ann

On 2/2/2012 11:16, Paul Stenquist wrote:


On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:



On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:00 AM, William Robb wrote:


On 02/02/2012 9:50 AM, David Savage wrote:

You know those big movie cameras they use in Hollywood? They're manual focus.


Amateurs don't do video the same way pros do. Amateurs tend to do much longer 
takes with more (sickeningly bad) attempts at panning or zooming to follow a 
moving subject.



Exactly. And amateurs don't work with professional actors whose movements are 
blocked out ahead of time. More importantly, if you're filming your kids soccer 
game, you don't get to do ten takes. One time when I worked with the director 
Terry Windell shooting the actor, Ed Herrmann for a Dodge television control 
that required Ed to hit six spots on the stage while speaking about twenty 
words. After 21 takes where either Ed or the camera operator failed to get it 
right, the usually very dignified Mr. Herrmann said something very bad about 
his deceased mother. Everyone stared at their shoes.
Paul



Gawd. Have to read my posts before hitting send. That should have been "I once worked with the 
director Terry Windell..."   and it was a Dodge "television commercial."



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Re: K-01 for video

[Paul Stenquist]

On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:29 AM, Darren Addy wrote:

>> But it won't autofocus in video mode.
> 
> In a thread on PF somebody posted that it does, but I haven't had time
> to track down if they were correct or simply talking out their arse.
> (If they WERE talking out their arse they possess the main
> characteristic needed to be a contributing PDML member).

They may just have meant that it will autofocus initially in video mode. The 
K-5 does that as well. But if the subject moves, your on your own with only an 
lcd screen to guide you and a short throw lens barrel with which to focus.
Paul
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Re: K-01 Press Release and Specs

[William Robb]

On 02/02/2012 10:13 AM, P. J. Alling wrote:

Primarly it's a cost savings feature. /Good/ glass viewfinders are
expensive, even good mirror prisms are expensive. With what Pentax saved
on a veiwfinder they could afford a big time designer to give it his
signature treatment. Such as it is...


They could have saved even more and hired a 4 year old to design the 
thing. They'd have probably gotten a better design too.


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K-01 vs NEX thoughts

[Jaume Lahuerta]

- Mensaje original -

> De: Brian Walters 
> 
> At $750 body only, I'll be taking a close look when it becomes available in 
> March but I'll really need to be convinced that the LCD screen is usable as 
> a viewfinder in bright sunlight.
> 

I have had the chance to acquire a Sony NEX-3 with 18-55 at a very discounted 
price (exhibition unit) and thus to experience the mirrorless-LCD-only concept. 
My thoughts:

- Very fun as a video camera (I had a 5 y/o MiniDV that hardly used, not 
convenient). The mobile LCD helps. Great result when showed on a 37-40 inch TV, 
and this is only 720p...Little artifacts, I don't feel the need for full HD. 
The 18-55 is short compared with my videocamera zoom.
The K-01 has better video but a fixed LCD though...

- Very good as a 'social' camera, you can shoot good pictures and good video 
with the same camera, no need to carry my K20D. I would prefer a 18-70 standard 
zoom for a better coverage.
The Pentax would be similar here, buy bulkier.

- As an 'artistic' camera. OK, the sensor is a 14mpix APS-C, so it is similar 
or better than my K20D's...but I can't get used to shoot and compose only with 
LCD, and also the lack of some direct controls is hard to get used too. The 
long lenses on the NEX are highly anti-ergonomic too. So when i want to take 
the 'good' pictures, the NEX cannot substitute my K20D at all.
I had hopes in this Pentax, it seems better ergonomically, but no EVF :-(

- Use of old lenses: I have tried to use my Pentax lenses in the NEX with a 
(cheap) adapter. Well, it works specially on those lenses with aperture ring. 
But the focusing process is long and you don't have stabilization...so maybe 
useful for stills or particular uses, but not for much more (IMHO).
The K-01 should be much better using old Pentaxes...but only Pentaxes. It has 
in-body SR vs NEX in-lens.

So, for me the K-01 is not yet the camera that can do everything withouth the 
bulk of an SLR...and nor is the NEX.

Regards,

Jaume

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Re: K-01 for video

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> But it won't autofocus in video mode.

In a thread on PF somebody posted that it does, but I haven't had time
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(If they WERE talking out their arse they possess the main
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:)
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Re: K-01 for video

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On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:10 AM, Paul Stenquist wrote:

> 
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:00 AM, William Robb wrote:
> 
>> On 02/02/2012 9:50 AM, David Savage wrote:
>>> You know those big movie cameras they use in Hollywood? They're manual 
>>> focus.
>>> 
>> Amateurs don't do video the same way pros do. Amateurs tend to do much 
>> longer takes with more (sickeningly bad) attempts at panning or zooming to 
>> follow a moving subject.
>> 
> 
> Exactly. And amateurs don't work with professional actors whose movements are 
> blocked out ahead of time. More importantly, if you're filming your kids 
> soccer game, you don't get to do ten takes. One time when I worked with the 
> director Terry Windell shooting the actor, Ed Herrmann for a Dodge television 
> control that required Ed to hit six spots on the stage while speaking about 
> twenty words. After 21 takes where either Ed or the camera operator failed to 
> get it right, the usually very dignified Mr. Herrmann said something very bad 
> about his deceased mother. Everyone stared at their shoes. 
> Paul
> 

Gawd. Have to read my posts before hitting send. That should have been "I once 
worked with the director Terry Windell..."   and it was a Dodge "television 
commercial."


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Re: K-01 Press Release and Specs

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Primarly it's a cost savings feature.  /Good/ glass viewfinders are 
expensive, even good mirror prisms are expensive.   With what Pentax 
saved on a veiwfinder they could afford a big time designer to give it 
his signature treatment.  Such as it is...


On 2/2/2012 8:43 AM, Christine Nielsen wrote:

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:

Here is a telling shot form dpreview.  It really is as big as the K5
for all practical purposes.

In which case... I don't get it.   But I hope they sell lots.

Reading over my shoulder, my husband commented, "What are they calling
that?  The 'K Negative One'?"

;)
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Re: K-01 for video

[Paul Stenquist]

On Feb 2, 2012, at 11:00 AM, William Robb wrote:

> On 02/02/2012 9:50 AM, David Savage wrote:
>> You know those big movie cameras they use in Hollywood? They're manual focus.
>> 
> Amateurs don't do video the same way pros do. Amateurs tend to do much longer 
> takes with more (sickeningly bad) attempts at panning or zooming to follow a 
> moving subject.
> 

Exactly. And amateurs don't work with professional actors whose movements are 
blocked out ahead of time. More importantly, if you're filming your kids soccer 
game, you don't get to do ten takes. One time when I worked with the director 
Terry Windell shooting the actor, Ed Herrmann for a Dodge television control 
that required Ed to hit six spots on the stage while speaking about twenty 
words. After 21 takes where either Ed or the camera operator failed to get it 
right, the usually very dignified Mr. Herrmann said something very bad about 
his deceased mother. Everyone stared at their shoes. 
Paul

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Re: K-01 for video

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On Feb 2, 2012, at 10:50 AM, David Savage wrote:

> You know those big movie cameras they use in Hollywood? They're manual focus.

Yes, they are, and I've worked with them on television commercial shoots -- 
hundreds of times. The director of photography operates the camera, while the 
second camera pulls focus using pre-marked points on the lens barrel. Framing 
the scene is difficult enough for one person. 
> 
> :-)
> 
> DS
> 
> On 2 February 2012 23:41, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
>> But it won't autofocus in video mode. That makes it almost useless with 
>> anything other than a wide angle lens.
>> Paul
>> On Feb 2, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>> 
>>> Looks pretty good:
>>> H.264
>>> 1080p
>>> 24, 25 or 30 fps
>>> 
>>> For someone whose use includes a significant amount of video shooting
>>> the K-01 might be very attractive.
>>> 
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Re: K-01 for video

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On 02/02/2012 9:50 AM, David Savage wrote:

You know those big movie cameras they use in Hollywood? They're manual focus.

Amateurs don't do video the same way pros do. Amateurs tend to do much 
longer takes with more (sickeningly bad) attempts at panning or zooming 
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Re: K-01 for video

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On Feb 2, 2012, at 10:52 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> Paul Stenquist wrote:
> 
>> But it won't autofocus in video mode. That makes it almost useless with 
>> anything other than a wide angle lens.
> 
> Funny, I never use anything but manual focus for video. I can't
> imagine *wanting* autofocus for video.

Have you tried manually focusing on a moving subject with only an lcd screen to 
guide you? I can't do it. Perhaps I could have managed 30 years ago. Even with 
a magnifier that includes a diopter adjustment, it's very difficult.

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Re: K-01 is here...

[William Robb]

On 02/02/2012 9:53 AM, David Savage wrote:






It's payback for you picking on all the 'murricas on the PDML.

Karma's a bitch.


I was sure that Knarf was offsetting me with his sucking up all the time.

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Re: K-01 is here...

[David Savage]

On 2 February 2012 23:51, William Robb  wrote:
> On 02/02/2012 9:42 AM, p. j. alling wrote:
>>
>> Not if we'd won instead of drawn you wouldn't but heck,  you get what
>> the government you deserve.  God what did we do?
>>
> I'm wondering what we did? Canada has always tried to do the right thing, we
> don't pick on smaller countries, we help out where we can, generally we do
> our best to do nothing that anyone would find offensive.
> And we still got Harper.

It's payback for you picking on all the 'murricas on the PDML.

Karma's a bitch.

DS

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Re: K-01 for video

[Mark Roberts]

Paul Stenquist wrote:

>But it won't autofocus in video mode. That makes it almost useless with 
>anything other than a wide angle lens.

Funny, I never use anything but manual focus for video. I can't
imagine *wanting* autofocus for video.
 
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Re: K-01 is here...

[David Savage]

Having now seen the specs & body layout I doubt I'll be returning...

My next camera will most likely be the D800 whenever they bring that out.

DS

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> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 4:13 AM, David Savage  wrote:
>> This could bring me back to the Pentax fold...
>
> Damn, you're easy.
>
>>
>> On 02/02/2012, Jaume Lahuerta  wrote:
>>> ...and it is indeed ugly (IMHO):
>>>
>>> http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-01-forum/173674-k-01-leaked-photos.html
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Re: K-01 is here...

[William Robb]

On 02/02/2012 9:42 AM, p. j. alling wrote:

Not if we'd won instead of drawn you wouldn't but heck,  you get what
the government you deserve.  God what did we do?

I'm wondering what we did? Canada has always tried to do the right 
thing, we don't pick on smaller countries, we help out where we can, 
generally we do our best to do nothing that anyone would find offensive.

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Re: K-01 for video

[David Savage]

You know those big movie cameras they use in Hollywood? They're manual focus.

:-)

DS

On 2 February 2012 23:41, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> But it won't autofocus in video mode. That makes it almost useless with 
> anything other than a wide angle lens.
> Paul
> On Feb 2, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:
>
>> Looks pretty good:
>> H.264
>> 1080p
>> 24, 25 or 30 fps
>>
>> For someone whose use includes a significant amount of video shooting
>> the K-01 might be very attractive.
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Re: OT PESO - B.

[David Savage]

On 2 February 2012 04:49, Larry Colen  wrote:
>
> On Feb 1, 2012, at 8:27 AM, Bob Sullivan wrote:
>
>> Dave,
>> You've caught the moment.
>> I've noticed how the young ladies in fashionable, strapless gowns
>> spend half the wedding celebration tugging on the front of their dresses.
>
> Can't say as I blame her.  Tugging at the front of that dress crossed my mind 
> too.

She's way to young for anyone on this list.

:-)

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Re: OT PESO - B.

[David Savage]

Thanks Paul.

This was a rushed lighting set-up (I hadn't really intended to be
shooting) so I fell back on my favorite "in case of emergency" set-up.

Cheers,

Dave

On 1 February 2012 23:42, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> Alabaster. Very nice. Well lit.
> Paul
> On Feb 1, 2012, at 10:30 AM, David Savage wrote:
>
>> G'day All,
>>
>> Last one from me for a while (some of you would have already seen it):
>>
>> 
>>
>> Best viewed on black:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Enjoy.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
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Re: OT PESO - B.

[David Savage]

Well the idea was less about trying to imply a battle to keep the
dress up & more an attempt at a tense "fashion" type pose.

But either way I reckon she did a great job.

Cheers,

Dave

On 2 February 2012 00:27, Bob Sullivan  wrote:
> Dave,
> You've caught the moment.
> I've noticed how the young ladies in fashionable, strapless gowns
> spend half the wedding celebration tugging on the front of their dresses.
> Regards,  Bob S.
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:30 AM, David Savage  wrote:
>> G'day All,
>>
>> Last one from me for a while (some of you would have already seen it):
>>
>> 
>>
>> Best viewed on black:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Enjoy.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>> Dave

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Re: K-01 is here...

[p. j. alling]

Not if we'd won instead of drawn you wouldn't but heck,  you get what
the government you deserve.  God what did we do?

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 wrote:
> On 02/02/2012 8:57 AM, p. j. alling wrote:
>>
>> and look at what you're missing, you could have Obama as your President
>> too...
>>
> Better him than Harper (BTW, we have Prime Ministers).
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Re: K-01 for video

[Paul Stenquist]

But it won't autofocus in video mode. That makes it almost useless with 
anything other than a wide angle lens.
Paul
On Feb 2, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Mark Roberts wrote:

> Looks pretty good:
> H.264
> 1080p
> 24, 25 or 30 fps
> 
> For someone whose use includes a significant amount of video shooting
> the K-01 might be very attractive.
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Re: PESO: Panache

[Ann Sanfedele]

Walt, as always you should consider how you view it..
I find the horizontal crop interesting - but prefer the portrait 
orientation for the same reason Larry does - what I find distracting is
just the tippy top white blobs as they draw your eye away from the 
feather.


what is intersting is that no matter how you crop it,it holds the 
viewers interest.


I didn't know about Harry (Henry Five) and the feather (but it must have 
been of note in the film as it is about bravery vs cowardice in battle ).


When I nit-pick anyone's photo I would never bother if it were
not something I found intesting and try to approach it from a
what would I do if I had shot this point of view. Sometimes
that's a good thing, sometimes it doesn't work because we aint on the 
same page at all.


Now go rent the original Ralph Richardson "the Four feathers" from 
Netflix and see why your photo would serve it well as a jewel box

cover :-)

ann


On 2/2/2012 03:07, Walt Gilbert wrote:

On 2/2/2012 1:45 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting Walt Gilbert :


On 2/2/2012 1:00 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



On 2/1/2012 10:44 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

Here's a re-crop. I tried to replicate the original look as much as I
could using what tools I have at my disposal (GIMP and Picasa),
though I
got the shadows a bit darker in this one.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6805434841/


I think you took too much off the top. I much preferred the
composition with the feather closer to the left edge. On the left,
I'd leave just a little space past the knuckle. On the top you could
crop it square, you could crop it just below the lights at the top
(which didn't bother me, and they kind of frame the picture), and/or
you could burn in the lights a the top a bit, so make them a little
darker so they don't stand out quite so much.

Or you can just go with what looks good to you because no matter
what you do, some people will like it more, others less.



I sort of liked the original crop a little better, too -- and agree
with the lighter area at the top helping to frame the image a bit and
break up the negative space. I'll see what I can do with a square
crop, but don't know how that would look in a book if it were
actually published.




Well, if you only submit one photo it is guaranteed to be published :-)>

I agree with Larry that the re-crop is a bit too much. A bit off the
top (just below that light 'blob') and a tad off the right is how I
would do it. But - what works for you is the main thing.




I think I'll probably just go ahead and stick with the portrait
orientation of the first one. When I reverted back to the original RAW
image, I discovered that the reason I cropped it that way was because
there was another white blob in the upper-right corner that made it look
just a little too busy across the top. But, if I crop it square or
horizontal, there just doesn't appear to be a better option than the
vertical orientation.

But, I didn't realize I was guaranteed to have at least one photo
published. I should probably stop where I am and leave things be in that
case.

Thanks for the input!

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K-01 for video

[Mark Roberts]

Looks pretty good:
H.264
1080p
24, 25 or 30 fps

For someone whose use includes a significant amount of video shooting
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Lens road map

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Don't know about the authentasy of this, (I'm at work and can't check it out)
http://www.photographyblog.com/news/pentax_k-mount_lens_roadmap/

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Re: K-01 is here...

[p. j. alling]

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 4:13 AM, David Savage  wrote:
> This could bring me back to the Pentax fold...

Damn, you're easy.

>
> On 02/02/2012, Jaume Lahuerta  wrote:
>> ...and it is indeed ugly (IMHO):
>>
>> http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-01-forum/173674-k-01-leaked-photos.html
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Re: K-01 is here...

[William Robb]

On 02/02/2012 8:57 AM, p. j. alling wrote:

and look at what you're missing, you could have Obama as your President too...


Better him than Harper (BTW, we have Prime Ministers).

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Re: K-01 Press Release and Specs

[William Robb]

On 02/02/2012 8:45 AM, p. j. alling wrote:

I expect it will look quite dated in a very short period
of time.


I give it until Feb 8th.

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Re: K-01 is here...

[Steven Desjardins]

 At your lowest point at the beginning of WWII, we sent you Spam.
That's hard to beat.

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:02 AM, p. j. alling
 wrote:
> Well, I used to write poetry in that style  mostly because it was annoying.
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
>> Hey, Mr. alling, when did you go all ee cummings on us?  (;-)>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:55 AM, p. j. alling  
>> wrote:
>>> It's a slightly modified K-5 without a viewfinder.  So now we know
>>> what a good optical viewfinder w/reflex mirror assembly costs, about
>>> $700.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Brian Walters  
>>> wrote:
 Quoting Larry Colen :

> Who cares if the K01 looks like carp?
>
> Where I think it will really shine is in making use of M42 lenses.  The
> electronic display will compensate for the dark image when it's stopped
> down.  If it has a good zoom for manual focus, you'll be able to manually
> focus them better than you ever have.
>
> It has the potential to totally kick ass for astrophotography and
> microphotography.  If Ritax puts a decent tethering mode on it, it could
> work well for studio work too.




 I was unimpressed by the first photos but it's growing on me.  If the specs
 are what I'm hoping, it may be my next camera.

 Ritax?  This being a Pentax list I think Pentoh is more appropriate




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Re: K-01 is here...

[p. j. alling]

Well, I used to write poetry in that style  mostly because it was annoying.

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:57 AM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> Hey, Mr. alling, when did you go all ee cummings on us?  (;-)>
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:55 AM, p. j. alling  
> wrote:
>> It's a slightly modified K-5 without a viewfinder.  So now we know
>> what a good optical viewfinder w/reflex mirror assembly costs, about
>> $700.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Brian Walters  
>> wrote:
>>> Quoting Larry Colen :
>>>
 Who cares if the K01 looks like carp?

 Where I think it will really shine is in making use of M42 lenses.  The
 electronic display will compensate for the dark image when it's stopped
 down.  If it has a good zoom for manual focus, you'll be able to manually
 focus them better than you ever have.

 It has the potential to totally kick ass for astrophotography and
 microphotography.  If Ritax puts a decent tethering mode on it, it could
 work well for studio work too.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was unimpressed by the first photos but it's growing on me.  If the specs
>>> are what I'm hoping, it may be my next camera.
>>>
>>> Ritax?  This being a Pentax list I think Pentoh is more appropriate
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> ++
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Re: K-01 is here...

[p. j. alling]

and look at what you're missing, you could have Obama as your President too...

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:53 PM, William Robb
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> On 01/02/2012 6:43 PM, Steven Desjardins wrote:
>>
>> Between the US and the UK, we've fought almost everyone at least once,
>> including each other.
>
>
> Yeah, and we whipped your asses, chased you home and burned down your White
> House.
> HAR!!
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Re: K-01 is here...

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Hey, Mr. alling, when did you go all ee cummings on us?  (;-)>

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 9:55 AM, p. j. alling  wrote:
> It's a slightly modified K-5 without a viewfinder.  So now we know
> what a good optical viewfinder w/reflex mirror assembly costs, about
> $700.
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Brian Walters  
> wrote:
>> Quoting Larry Colen :
>>
>>> Who cares if the K01 looks like carp?
>>>
>>> Where I think it will really shine is in making use of M42 lenses.  The
>>> electronic display will compensate for the dark image when it's stopped
>>> down.  If it has a good zoom for manual focus, you'll be able to manually
>>> focus them better than you ever have.
>>>
>>> It has the potential to totally kick ass for astrophotography and
>>> microphotography.  If Ritax puts a decent tethering mode on it, it could
>>> work well for studio work too.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I was unimpressed by the first photos but it's growing on me.  If the specs
>> are what I'm hoping, it may be my next camera.
>>
>> Ritax?  This being a Pentax list I think Pentoh is more appropriate
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
>> Brian
>>
>> ++
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Re: K-01 is here...

[p. j. alling]

It's a slightly modified K-5 without a viewfinder.  So now we know
what a good optical viewfinder w/reflex mirror assembly costs, about
$700.

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:18 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> Quoting Larry Colen :
>
>> Who cares if the K01 looks like carp?
>>
>> Where I think it will really shine is in making use of M42 lenses.  The
>> electronic display will compensate for the dark image when it's stopped
>> down.  If it has a good zoom for manual focus, you'll be able to manually
>> focus them better than you ever have.
>>
>> It has the potential to totally kick ass for astrophotography and
>> microphotography.  If Ritax puts a decent tethering mode on it, it could
>> work well for studio work too.
>
>
>
>
> I was unimpressed by the first photos but it's growing on me.  If the specs
> are what I'm hoping, it may be my next camera.
>
> Ritax?  This being a Pentax list I think Pentoh is more appropriate
>
>
>
>
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>
> Brian
>
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Re: PESO: Panache

[David J Brooks]

Love it

Dave

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Walt Gilbert  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I was combing through my archives (as it were) and came across an image and
> thought I should get some input on it.
>
> http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6804662591/
>
> It was shot with my K-x using the K-50/1.4 -- beyond that, I haven't the
> foggiest clue as to the technical deets. My guess is that the aperture is
> set at f/2 and the ISO would probably be somewhere in the neighborhood of
> 1600 given the conditions (sitting in a dimly lit bar), not using flash (I'm
> constitutionally incapable most times), with a fairly slow shutter speed
> (1/50 or thereabouts).
>
> In any event, I'm looking for possible submissions to the PDML annual and
> wondered if anyone thought this might be a potentially worthy candidate.
>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: Snowy Owl on Day 4: Out of the car and into the ditch

[David J Brooks]

Well done set.

Dave

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> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pixelsmithy/sets/72157629136465149/
> They seem to follow a routine. A few more "action" shots in this batch.
>
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Re: Beer

[David J Brooks]

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:15 PM, John Sessoms  wrote:
> From: Bill Owens
>
>> http://www.hlntv.com/video/2012/01/30/sexual-chocolate-beer?hpt=hp_bn13
>>
>> Bill
>
>
> I am so happy to see good news coming out of North Carolina for a change.

What do you mean.? I have not been to GFM for 4 years now. :-)

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Re: OT PESO - Light Play

[David J Brooks]

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 7:46 PM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> At least you had the courage to try, Mr. Brooks. Savage's light play work 
> gives us all something to aspire to.
> Paul

Plus, i have to stay up ~well~ past my bed time to do this.:-)

Dave
> On Feb 1, 2012, at 5:59 PM, David J Brooks wrote:
>
>> Ok, ok, i need to practice some more.:-)
>>
>> Great shot love the sky
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 6:35 PM, David Savage  wrote:
>>> G'day All,
>>>
>>> Dave showed his, it's only fair I show mine.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> Enjoy.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
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Re: K-01 is here...

[William Robb]

On 02/02/2012 1:20 AM, Bob W wrote:


imo it's very rare that a so-called designer ever produces anything other
than hideous crap. There are few exceptions - the Porsche-designed Contax
RTS being what. What they do is not design, but styling. Since form follows
function it requires a real designer to design the camera in the first
place, based around fit, usability and so on. If they do the job right the
camera comes out beautiful and doesn't need a stylist. Bringing in a stylist
smacks of desperation and a camera designed by marketers, not by camera
makers.



I just watched a small portion of an interview of the designer of the 
K-01. He mentioned very early on that he had never designed a camera 
before. At that point, I decided that my initial suspicions had been 
confirmed and watched no further.
If the K-01 was a wristwatch, it would be worn like a dog collar and 
wouldn't tell time.
Anyone who thinks the Q is useless, well, at least it's small, and might 
find a niche because of that. The K-01 is not only fugly, without a 
viewfinder it is next to useless as a camera.
Pentax may have shot themselves in the foot with the Q, but with the 
K-01 they sawed their leg off above the knee.


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Re: K-01 Press Release and Specs

[p. j. alling]

I haven't read all of the specifications yet, so I don't know if
there's a significant improvement in any way, such as a new sensor,
but it looks more like a fashion forward statement rather than a
useful tool.  I expect it will look quite dated in a very short period
of time.  I guess that's part of the point...

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> Well, the rumors were pretty much on target.
>
> Here's the Press Release and summary of specifications:
>
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/02/02/Pentax_K-01_announcement#press
>
>
> Things of interest to me:
>
> No eye level viewfinder and apparently no clip on one either :-(>
>
> Compatible with M42 lenses (with adapter)
>
> Max ISO 25600
>
> No Sv mode
>
> At $750 body only, I'll be taking a close look when it becomes available in
> March but I'll really need to be convinced that the LCD screen is usable as
> a viewfinder in bright sunlight.
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
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Re: Back to Verona

[Rick Womer]

Nope.  Gotta get back to Italy with my wife one of these days...

(slow reply because of deluge at work)

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Subject: RE: Back to Verona

Thanks Rick.  Did you get to Verona on your trip?

John Coyle
Brisbane, Australia




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I like this a lot.  The lighting is dramatic, and the blurred figure of the 
pedestrian
adds scale and interest.

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Subject: Back to Verona

Is what we must do - did not have enough time in that very pretty and 
interesting city.
Here is another high ASA shot taken in Verona's famous Piazza Bra:

http://www.members.iinet.net.au/~jco...@iinet.net.au/Verona1.html

Pentax *istD, 3200 ASA;  Pentax DA 16-45 at 16mm: 1/10 @ f4 Comments, plaudits 
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brickbats equally welcome.

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Re: K-01 Press Release and Specs

[Christine Nielsen]

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 7:55 AM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> Here is a telling shot form dpreview.  It really is as big as the K5
> for all practical purposes.

In which case... I don't get it.   But I hope they sell lots.

Reading over my shoulder, my husband commented, "What are they calling
that?  The 'K Negative One'?"

;)
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Re: K-01 is here...

[Doug Franklin]

On 2012-02-02 7:10, Mark Roberts wrote:


Have you read "The Design of Everyday Things" by Donald Norman? A
classic in the field and it says pretty much what you just did.
http://www.powells.com/biblio/7-9780385267748-4


Excellent book, and the place where I discovered that "affordance" is a 
word, and a darned useful one. :-)


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Re: K-01 Press Release and Specs

[Steven Desjardins]

Here is a telling shot form dpreview.  It really is as big as the K5
for all practical purposes.

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 7:44 AM, Steven Desjardins  wrote:
> It won't be great in bright light since none of them are.  You'll need
> to get one of those Delkin hoods.  I have one on my E-P2 and it helps
> a lot.
>
> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Brian Walters  
> wrote:
>> Well, the rumors were pretty much on target.
>>
>> Here's the Press Release and summary of specifications:
>>
>> http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/02/02/Pentax_K-01_announcement#press
>>
>>
>> Things of interest to me:
>>
>> No eye level viewfinder and apparently no clip on one either :-(>
>>
>> Compatible with M42 lenses (with adapter)
>>
>> Max ISO 25600
>>
>> No Sv mode
>>
>> At $750 body only, I'll be taking a close look when it becomes available in
>> March but I'll really need to be convinced that the LCD screen is usable as
>> a viewfinder in bright sunlight.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>>
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>>
>> ++
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Re: K-01 Press Release and Specs

[Steven Desjardins]

It won't be great in bright light since none of them are.  You'll need
to get one of those Delkin hoods.  I have one on my E-P2 and it helps
a lot.

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> Well, the rumors were pretty much on target.
>
> Here's the Press Release and summary of specifications:
>
> http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/02/02/Pentax_K-01_announcement#press
>
>
> Things of interest to me:
>
> No eye level viewfinder and apparently no clip on one either :-(>
>
> Compatible with M42 lenses (with adapter)
>
> Max ISO 25600
>
> No Sv mode
>
> At $750 body only, I'll be taking a close look when it becomes available in
> March but I'll really need to be convinced that the LCD screen is usable as
> a viewfinder in bright sunlight.
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
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Re: pentaxforums on the K-01 tomorrow morning

[Steven Desjardins]

There it is.  K5 sensor, no EVF, $750 body only.  $899 including the
40 might be the best deal.  It would definitively look better in all
black, and I assume the yellow one is aimed at some market I'm unaware
of.  No that exciting , but it's very possible that the IQ is
excellent and it's quiet, in which case it will have it's uses.

On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:26 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> For them's that interested
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>>
>> We are proud to be the first Pentax fan site to bring you the full official 
>> specifications of the new Pentax K-01 K-mount mirrorless camera!  In the 
>> post, we also offer exclusive commentary about the new camera, as well as 
>> pricing information, availability, and photos!
>>
>> http://www.pentaxforums.com/news/pentax-k-01-officially-announced.html
>>
>> Do you want to see a pre-release review of the K-01?  If so, please express 
>> your interest by posting in this thread, and we will see what can be done!
>>
>> http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-01-forum/173727-want-see-k-01-review-early.html
>>
>> Finally, we want to hear what you think about the new K-01!  We've therefore 
>> added a dedicated forum for the purpose:
>> http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-01-forum/
>>
>> We hope you enjoy reading about the new camera, and are looking forward to 
>> hearing from you!
>>
>> NOTE: official information about the K-01 will be posted at EXACTLY 7:00am 
>> EST today, February 2nd.  Prior to then you will see a countdown timer to 
>> the official release.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> The PentaxForums.com Staff
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K-01 Press Release and Specs

[Brian Walters]

Well, the rumors were pretty much on target.

Here's the Press Release and summary of specifications:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/02/02/Pentax_K-01_announcement#press


Things of interest to me:

No eye level viewfinder and apparently no clip on one either :-(>

Compatible with M42 lenses (with adapter)

Max ISO 25600

No Sv mode

At $750 body only, I'll be taking a close look when it becomes  
available in March but I'll really need to be convinced that the LCD  
screen is usable as a viewfinder in bright sunlight.




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Re: K-01 is here...

[Mark Roberts]

Bob W wrote:

>> >...and it is indeed ugly (IMHO):
>> 
>> I'm definitely what you would call "function-oriented": If a camera
>> works well I don't concern myself with its looks much. But it does
>> occur to me that it has to be frustrating to hire a big-name designer
>> (and presumably pay his big-name fees) only to end up something that
>> ugly as the end result.
>
>imo it's very rare that a so-called designer ever produces anything other
>than hideous crap. There are few exceptions - the Porsche-designed Contax
>RTS being what. What they do is not design, but styling. Since form follows
>function it requires a real designer to design the camera in the first
>place, based around fit, usability and so on. If they do the job right the
>camera comes out beautiful and doesn't need a stylist. Bringing in a stylist
>smacks of desperation and a camera designed by marketers, not by camera
>makers.

Have you read "The Design of Everyday Things" by Donald Norman? A
classic in the field and it says pretty much what you just did.
http://www.powells.com/biblio/7-9780385267748-4
 
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Re: K-01 is here...

[Peter Jordan]

It solves my problem. I was looking for an APS-C carry around with a decent 
lens.

I like the look gf the Sony NEX-7 but the standard zoom isn't brilliant and the 
Zeiss 24mm lens would be pricey. The Fujis looked OK but there are some 
concerns about the user interface for the X100.

Putting a 21mm limited on the front of this will give me a nice walk around 
street camera.

It would also be interesting to stick the Bigma 50 - 500 on the back for a 
really balanced look ;-) 

Peter

On 2 Feb 2012, at 08:23, Cotty wrote:

> On 1/2/12, Walt Gilbert, discombobulated, unleashed:
> 
>> I would happily carry it right out in
>> the open for all to see.
> 
> Mark.
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Re: K-01 is here...

[David Savage]

This could bring me back to the Pentax fold...

On 02/02/2012, Jaume Lahuerta  wrote:
> ...and it is indeed ugly (IMHO):
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> http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-k-01-forum/173674-k-01-leaked-photos.html
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Re: K-01 is here...

[Cotty]

On 1/2/12, Walt Gilbert, discombobulated, unleashed:

> I would happily carry it right out in
>the open for all to see.

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Re: K-01 is here...

[Cotty]

On 1/2/12, Larry Colen, discombobulated, unleashed:

>
>Or, if you're a cheap bastard (I'm looking at you Cotty):
>http://lifehacker.com/5780891/make-a-diy-dslr-video-viewfinder-on-the-cheap

Well, I'd save even more money by not using hair ties.

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RE: Venice 2011

[John Coyle]

Thanks Darren - and I thought of offering you my *ist-D, but there are a couple 
of things
it won't do any more - none critical, of course.

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Very cool, John!
Neat to see that kind of high ISO performance out of a 10 year old DSLR!
(Just procured an *ist D for myself, thanks to PDMLer Tim Bray).

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Re: PESO: Panache

[Walt Gilbert]

On 2/2/2012 1:45 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

Quoting Walt Gilbert :


On 2/2/2012 1:00 AM, Larry Colen wrote:



On 2/1/2012 10:44 PM, Walt Gilbert wrote:

Here's a re-crop. I tried to replicate the original look as much as I
could using what tools I have at my disposal (GIMP and Picasa), 
though I

got the shadows a bit darker in this one.

http://www.flickriver.com/photos/walt_gilbert/6805434841/


I think you took too much off the top.  I much preferred the 
composition with the feather closer to the left edge. On the left, 
I'd leave just a little space past the knuckle. On the top you could 
crop it square, you could crop it just below the lights at the top 
(which didn't bother me, and they kind of frame the picture), and/or 
you could burn in the lights a the top a bit, so make them a little 
darker so they don't stand out quite so much.


Or you can just go with what looks good to you because no matter 
what you do, some people will like it more, others less.



I sort of liked the original crop a little better, too -- and agree 
with the lighter area at the top helping to frame the image a bit and 
break up the negative space.  I'll see what I can do with a square 
crop, but don't know how that would look in a book if it were 
actually published.




Well, if you only submit one photo it is guaranteed to be published  :-)>

I agree with Larry that the re-crop is a bit too much.  A bit off the 
top (just below that light 'blob') and a tad off the right is how I 
would do it.  But - what works for you is the main thing.




I think I'll probably just go ahead and stick with the portrait 
orientation of the first one. When I reverted back to the original RAW 
image, I discovered that the reason I cropped it that way was because 
there was another white blob in the upper-right corner that made it look 
just a little too busy across the top.  But, if I crop it square or 
horizontal, there just doesn't appear to be a better option than the 
vertical orientation.


But, I didn't realize I was guaranteed to have at least one photo 
published.  I should probably stop where I am and leave things be in 
that case.


Thanks for the input!

-- Walt

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