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Thanks Peter, I pondered on it for quite a while, but finally reasoned that there was either a misunderstanding or it was just the way Mafud is. How long have I been on the list?, Cesar Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: Peter Alling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 1:28 PM -- -- Don't ever worry about it Cesar, Mafud took offense at just -- about everything -- anyone wrote... -- -- At 03:29 PM 2/4/04, you wrote: -- Careful what you say about NYers. -- -- I recall something like this coming up once quite a few -- years ago here. It -- ended up with Mafud taking offense to something I wrote. -- Still not sure -- what it was that set him off so. -- -- NYC - born and raised, -- -- Cesar -- Panama City, Florida -- -- -- -Original Message- -- -- From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 10:20 PM -- -- -- -- Both companies are famous for NYC curtness. Don't take it as -- -- a put down, it is -- -- just their way. New Yorkers are strange people, they will -- -- call you all kinds of -- -- nasty names while giving you their right arm. The curtness -- -- probably comes from -- -- have 11 million neighbors all wanting attention at the same time. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: -- -- Last night I sent this email to both B and H and Adorama: -- -- -- snip -- -- Have to say though, I am totally unimpressed by the -- -- shortness of both of -- -- their replies, I mean they didn't even say thanks for -- -- your enquiry or -- -- whatever... -- -- -- -- I am going to ring Pentax Australia (CR Kennedy) right now -- -- to see what they -- -- have to say... -- -- -- -- tan. *who WANTS her *istD! but refuses to pay more than -- -- she has to for it!* -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- graywolf -- -- http://graywolfphoto.com -- -- -- -- You might as well accept people as they are, -- -- you are not going to be able to change them anyway. -- -- -- -- -- -- I drink to make other people interesting. -- -- George Jean Nathan --
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Pentax IS will almost certainly be the sensor-based variety. Since that's coming, I can't see them developing a whole line of lenses. Oddly enough, I bet N and C will go the same route eventually and , eventually, phase out there IS lenses. Doesn't help much if you want something now, however. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I can certainly see Pentax developing a sensor based IS system, and I suspect that the rumored new Minolta dslr will be the first to market with such a system. I just wish that pentax would release come information on their digital 'roadmap' so people like me that are on the fence would have a reason to stick with them. As for Canon and Nikon, I agree that they will eventually also go to the sensor based variety, however, I think that this will be in addition to the current lens based system otherwise they would be cutting off their film customers and I don't think that's going to happen just yet :-) Yousef --- Steve Desjardins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pentax IS will almost certainly be the sensor-based variety. Since that's coming, I can't see them developing a whole line of lenses. Oddly enough, I bet N and C will go the same route eventually and , eventually, phase out there IS lenses. Doesn't help much if you want something now, however. Steven Desjardins Department of Chemistry Washington and Lee University Lexington, VA 24450 (540) 458-8873 FAX: (540) 458-8878 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Not to mention, he also took offense at some of the stuff he wrote Norm Peter Alling wrote: Don't ever worry about it Cesar, Mafud took offense at just about everything anyone wrote...
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:- At 01:39 PM 2/5/04, you wrote: Not to mention, he also took offense at some of the stuff he wrote Norm Peter Alling wrote: Don't ever worry about it Cesar, Mafud took offense at just about everything anyone wrote... I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan
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Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 19:50:47 -0600 From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hey William, I love how this topic quickly degraded to your rant. Originally, my rant was about people buying the camera in the USA and importing it to their own country because it was considerable cheaper. *I*'m not buying one. And I have my other reasons (film vs. digital, triathlon) that we don't need to get into. I agree, if you want something, and have the cash, go for it. But I'm sorry, I think I make a decent buck but 600$cdn is not something I'd just throw away. If the diff is more like 10, 50$, maybe I'd start a rant too. I have stingy ass friends who'll go out for someone's birthday then complain about pitching in for the birthday cake you didn't tell me I had to pitch in. yeah, OK. We're also not discussing people waiting 10 years for the price to go down. I realize the beauty of depreciation. I suffer it more with my damn car. Anyway, thanks for brightening my day. daich This communication is confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you believe this message has been sent to you in error, please notify the sender by replying to this transmission and delete the message without disclosing it. Thank you. E-mail including attachments is susceptible to data corruption, interruption, unauthorized amendment, tampering and viruses, and we only send and receive e-mails on the basis that we are not liable for any such corruption, interception, amendment, tampering or viruses or any consequences thereof.
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Careful what you say about NYers. I recall something like this coming up once quite a few years ago here. It ended up with Mafud taking offense to something I wrote. Still not sure what it was that set him off so. NYC - born and raised, Cesar Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 10:20 PM -- -- Both companies are famous for NYC curtness. Don't take it as -- a put down, it is -- just their way. New Yorkers are strange people, they will -- call you all kinds of -- nasty names while giving you their right arm. The curtness -- probably comes from -- have 11 million neighbors all wanting attention at the same time. -- -- -- -- -- Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: -- Last night I sent this email to both B and H and Adorama: -- snip -- Have to say though, I am totally unimpressed by the -- shortness of both of -- their replies, I mean they didn't even say thanks for -- your enquiry or -- whatever... -- -- I am going to ring Pentax Australia (CR Kennedy) right now -- to see what they -- have to say... -- -- tan. *who WANTS her *istD! but refuses to pay more than -- she has to for it!* -- -- -- -- -- graywolf -- http://graywolfphoto.com -- -- You might as well accept people as they are, -- you are not going to be able to change them anyway. -- --
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I love the camera, but what puts me off is the lack of 3rd party support. it bothers me that here isn't more support for the pentax raw format...I want to be able to use tools like capture one, but they have no clear time table for pentax support. It also seems that some very desirable 3rd party glass is not available for the pentax(yet, maybe never) in a straight comparison between the 10D and the ist, I actually preferred the ist and returned the 10D to BH within their 7 day return period. However, after having the ist for a month and having endured the disappointment of finding that software and /or lenses I want are not available for the pentax, I have swung back to the canon. Plus there is the added incentive of a clear upgrade path to the 1Ds/1D MKII down the road. Having no current investment in pentax glass, it seems the choice is clear...of course YMMV Yousef --- Cesar Matamoros II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Careful what you say about NYers. I recall something like this coming up once quite a few years ago here. It ended up with Mafud taking offense to something I wrote. Still not sure what it was that set him off so. NYC - born and raised, Cesar Panama City, Florida -- -Original Message- -- From: graywolf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2004 10:20 PM -- -- Both companies are famous for NYC curtness. Don't take it as -- a put down, it is -- just their way. New Yorkers are strange people, they will -- call you all kinds of -- nasty names while giving you their right arm. The curtness -- probably comes from -- have 11 million neighbors all wanting attention at the same time. -- -- -- -- -- Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: -- Last night I sent this email to both B and H and Adorama: -- snip -- Have to say though, I am totally unimpressed by the -- shortness of both of -- their replies, I mean they didn't even say thanks for -- your enquiry or -- whatever... -- -- I am going to ring Pentax Australia (CR Kennedy) right now -- to see what they -- have to say... -- -- tan. *who WANTS her *istD! but refuses to pay more than -- she has to for it!* -- -- -- -- -- graywolf -- http://graywolfphoto.com -- -- You might as well accept people as they are, -- you are not going to be able to change them anyway. -- --
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which lenses did you want that were not available for Pentax? Christian - Original Message - From: Yousef Lasi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 5:57 PM Subject: Re: OT - NYers was - more *ist D pricing news... I love the camera, but what puts me off is the lack of 3rd party support. it bothers me that here isn't more support for the pentax raw format...I want to be able to use tools like capture one, but they have no clear time table for pentax support. It also seems that some very desirable 3rd party glass is not available for the pentax(yet, maybe never) in a straight comparison between the 10D and the ist, I actually preferred the ist and returned the 10D to BH within their 7 day return period. However, after having the ist for a month and having endured the disappointment of finding that software and /or lenses I want are not available for the pentax, I have swung back to the canon. Plus there is the added incentive of a clear upgrade path to the 1Ds/1D MKII down the road. Having no current investment in pentax glass, it seems the choice is clear...of course YMMV Yousef
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I couldn't quite see myself spending the money at this point but I did lust after the sigma EX 120-300 2.8 (NA in PK mount). I ended up getting the sigma EX 70-200 2.8(and the vendor has agreed to swap for a canon mount fortunately). I did find that quite a few of the newer lenses were not available for pentax. perhaps it's just a matter of time, but I suspect that this will remain true for a while. there is also the lack of image stabilization for pentax lenses. Even the stabilized sigmas are not available in Pentax mount. But with all that said and given the rapid drop in ist prices(can't stomach losing too much money on it), I might end up keeping it as a *very* competent PS :-) as it is a very compact package with the 50/1.8 and pass on my current PS (a sony 707) to my brother. Yousef --- Christian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: which lenses did you want that were not available for Pentax? Christian - Original Message - From: Yousef Lasi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 5:57 PM Subject: Re: OT - NYers was - more *ist D pricing news... I love the camera, but what puts me off is the lack of 3rd party support. it bothers me that here isn't more support for the pentax raw format...I want to be able to use tools like capture one, but they have no clear time table for pentax support. It also seems that some very desirable 3rd party glass is not available for the pentax(yet, maybe never) in a straight comparison between the 10D and the ist, I actually preferred the ist and returned the 10D to BH within their 7 day return period. However, after having the ist for a month and having endured the disappointment of finding that software and /or lenses I want are not available for the pentax, I have swung back to the canon. Plus there is the added incentive of a clear upgrade path to the 1Ds/1D MKII down the road. Having no current investment in pentax glass, it seems the choice is clear...of course YMMV Yousef
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I agree. I bought mine the first chance I got to lay my hands on it and I bought it at a local camera store. The difference between mail order and local price was not enough to worry about. I just did it and have enjoyed it ever since. Buying local once in a while helps keep camera stores in business. I had to mail order the battery grip because there was nobody in the whole St Louis metropolitan area that had one. I could still be waiting around to get one cheap but then I wouldn't have had one to use in the intervening time. Len * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 I was a very early adapter to the istD, buying it about 45 minutes after it became available to me. At that time, I paid about the same as what you are quoting now, and the US dealers hadn't started to discount it. Consequently, at that time it was cheaper in Canada than the USA (at least in my instance). What I don't get is why all the hand wringing over the pricing. If you want it, and can afford it, just buy the damned thing and get on with life. If you want it and can't afford it, then you have the same relationship to it that I have to a new Land Rover. OTOH, if you want it, can afford it, but refuse to buy it because you think it's going to cost less next week, then wait till next week and quit bellyaching. You know that within 6 months of a new version coming out, they will be giving them away for probably about the cost of the chip, so wait till then, and get the best deal possible. Sorry for the rant, but the whole price issue just doesn't fly with me. William Robb
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On Feb 3, 2004, at 08:56, mike wilson wrote: A friend purchased some extended warranties with some new appliances. She only bought them because they could be redeemed after five years for goods at the shop. The shop (a major retail chain) went belly up and the warranty company (basically an insurance company) said. The larger retailers here are really enjoying the concept of extended warranties. Its just another form of insurance and it seems to be quite lucrative. I bought my new computer from a large department store because they had a good interest free finance deal. The salesman applied a LOT of pressure to try and convince me to purchase an extended warranty that would add 12.5% to the price. I eventually managed to (very patiently) convince him that I didn't want the warranty and nothing he could do or say would make me take it. Even after he tried to sweeten the deal by reducing the price of the warranty by 60%. There must be a pretty good commission to be had from these things. - Dave (sorry I've gone off-topic) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
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On Feb 3, 2004, at 11:03, William Robb wrote: You must have missed the story about my coming home and finding a parcel addressed to me sitting on the street in front of my house. The lazy jerk couldn't even throw it far enough to make it across the sidewalk. g... I once had a sizeable $1600 package, clearly marked as including a lens, left at the letterbox for all the world to see - while my partner was home. The courier didn't bother to walk up the driveway and knock on the door. But at least he got out of the van :) Cheers, - Dave http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
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Extended warrantees are almost entirely profit. Especially in electronics. At 02:08 AM 2/3/04, you wrote: On Feb 3, 2004, at 08:56, mike wilson wrote: A friend purchased some extended warranties with some new appliances. She only bought them because they could be redeemed after five years for goods at the shop. The shop (a major retail chain) went belly up and the warranty company (basically an insurance company) said. The larger retailers here are really enjoying the concept of extended warranties. Its just another form of insurance and it seems to be quite lucrative. I bought my new computer from a large department store because they had a good interest free finance deal. The salesman applied a LOT of pressure to try and convince me to purchase an extended warranty that would add 12.5% to the price. I eventually managed to (very patiently) convince him that I didn't want the warranty and nothing he could do or say would make me take it. Even after he tried to sweeten the deal by reducing the price of the warranty by 60%. There must be a pretty good commission to be had from these things. - Dave (sorry I've gone off-topic) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan
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The only extended warranties I would consider would be for used vehicles and road hazard for new tires. Bill Extended warrantees are almost entirely profit. Especially in electronics.
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I don't know what stores you're familiar with but from my experience some do give a commission on their extended warrantees, a quite substantial one in some cases. In others I suspect that it gets passed directly on to either department managers or store managers. At 11:59 AM 2/3/04, you wrote: They are about 90% profit for the retailer. Strangely, often there is no commission, but management really push the poor salespeople to push the damn things. Often your performance rating is tied to your sales of the things. And yes, they are insurance policies, but calling them extended warrenties in many states means they do not have to meet pesty insurance regulations, like having the funds to pay off. -- David Mann wrote: On Feb 3, 2004, at 08:56, mike wilson wrote: A friend purchased some extended warranties with some new appliances. She only bought them because they could be redeemed after five years for goods at the shop. The shop (a major retail chain) went belly up and the warranty company (basically an insurance company) said. The larger retailers here are really enjoying the concept of extended warranties. Its just another form of insurance and it seems to be quite lucrative. I bought my new computer from a large department store because they had a good interest free finance deal. The salesman applied a LOT of pressure to try and convince me to purchase an extended warranty that would add 12.5% to the price. I eventually managed to (very patiently) convince him that I didn't want the warranty and nothing he could do or say would make me take it. Even after he tried to sweeten the deal by reducing the price of the warranty by 60%. There must be a pretty good commission to be had from these things. - Dave (sorry I've gone off-topic) http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/ -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway. I drink to make other people interesting. -- George Jean Nathan
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Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2004 15:32:55 -0600 From: William Robb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: more *ist D pricing news.. I don't know where you are getting your numbers. It sounds like you are comparing prices of a lowball US dealer (BH) with a high end botique in Canada. Hi William, Got my lousy price from simonscameras.com 2100cdn+tax. (7%gst, 7.5%qst) From my short experience they have the most decent prices around Montreal. Do enlighten me where you got your *istD for so much less in Canada. If the diff is 50$, I'll definitely jump it. Thanks, Daichi This communication is confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you believe this message has been sent to you in error, please notify the sender by replying to this transmission and delete the message without disclosing it. Thank you. E-mail including attachments is susceptible to data corruption, interruption, unauthorized amendment, tampering and viruses, and we only send and receive e-mails on the basis that we are not liable for any such corruption, interception, amendment, tampering or viruses or any consequences thereof.
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On 1/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: Last night I sent this email to both B and H and Adorama: [snip] Tan, There are two things that I can add to for you. First, I have purchased from B and H in NY before, and they are a very busy place. In fact, unbelievably busy. Also, don't forget, it is staffed by New Yorkers! Now, I'm not saying that New Yorkers are rude or short or impatient, but by and large, new Yorkers are rude and short and impatient (KIDDING). There's no excuse for rudeness, but don't confuse brevity with rudeness. The email is direct and to the point, if short. It conveys the info you wanted. I bought a lens from them a few years ago - a Sigma 70-200 2.8 and had a friend who works a few blocks down the street pick it up in person. Because I ordered from the UK, I avoided sales tax, and my friend later flew over to visit and brought me the lens :-) The only addition to ordering via the internet was that they wanted a fax of my AmEx card sent through, which I did. Now, point 2: if you order your *ist D from B and H, and something is wrong with it, what are you going to do? I don't know what the consumer laws are like in Australia, but they may be similar to the UK, which differs from the USA. If a UK customer buys a UK camera from a UK store, and the thing breaks down, then the UK customer returns the camera to the store where it was purchased for repair or replacement. In fact, the contract is with the store and not the camera manufacturer. So if anything gets out of hand, we sue the store and not the manufacturer. USA customers - well, strange things happen there ;-) I understood that the contract is between the purchaser and the manufacturer, with the store as middleman. However, Paul Stenquist recently had his camera replaced (actually got a new one and waited for a reimbursement) as it was faulty out of the box, and I think he dealt directly with the store. I have known US folk buy a computer and then deal directly with the manufacturer when in dispute. I'm not altogether clear on this - I dare say some US listers will help out here. When I was shopping for a D60, I considered buying from abroad, but didn't pursue it because I felt that if there was a major problem, it would be real hassle in sorting it out. I bought from within the UK, at higher prices (although I got the VAT back, so I paid £1600 instead of £1850 - ouch). The 'Canon Warranty' ptui that comes from a camera purchased in the USA is not apparently not applicable to someone living in the UK. But in effect, the 'Canon Warranty' ptui is pretty meaningless here because as I mentioned, if a UK purchase is defective, we don't ring up Canon to complain, we ring up the shop from where it came, even a year later! Warranties allegedly exist for one year, but in fact in the UK, this is moot. Goods are sold on the baiss that they should be fit for the purpose - this means that if my £1600 camera goes kaput *even now*, some 16 months after i got it, i would still call the shop from where it came and say, 'Hey - this camera cost me sixteen hundred notes and had just expired - what you gonna do about it pal?' they are bound by law to provide goods fit for the purpose, and i don't call breaking after nearly a year and a half fit for the purpose! If they agree, then something will happen. If they don't, I can take them to the small claims court and let a judge decide. Based on previous court cases, in this instance i would have a good case. We have a Miele dishwasher that started leaking *6 years* after we bought it. After negotiating with Miele (purchased direct) they agreed that the workmanship was faulty and gave us a 50% discount on a brand new machine. Not bad, but not worth going to court over. 6 years and 300 quid. But 16 months and 1600 quid is a different kettle of fish. This is one of the reasons that UK goods can be slightly more expensive than US goods of the same kind. The point is, if you buy from an Australian dealer, even though they may be based hundreds of miles from you and might as well be New York in terms of time and distance, there are definite benefits in that they speak your language ;-) and can provide the sort of backup that you would expect based on the country you live in. You both know where you stand. This is a very effective argument in favour of buying from within Australia for you, and I would consider very carefully if it may be worth saving a few hundred and foregoing the peace-of-mind aspect. Sorry for the bandwidth (as the actress said to the bishop). Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
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On 2/2/04, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged: With the price decrease etc, even with GST and postage, I figure I should be able to pick one up from the US for around the $1700 mark Isnt duty applicable on these? DAMN RIGHT. Cheers, Cotty ___/\__ || (O) | People, Places, Pastiche ||=| www.macads.co.uk/snaps _ Free UK Mac Ads www.macads.co.uk
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Ditto, Steve! I've done a fair amount of business with both BH and Adorama. They may be terse or curt but they have always been fair and honest. I have had no problems with either of them. They are rushed for time to keep up with their business. Len --- * There's no place like 127.0.0.1 My experience with both BH and Adorama is that they have a very business is business attitude. Not much flash but the essence of quid pro quo. Also, as someone noted here, both places are owned and run by very religous Jewish folks who shut the place down tight for all observances. Not much for chit-chat but, quite frankly, the kind of people I like to do business with (as my Yankee trader background shows). Steven Desjardins _ High-speed usersbe more efficient online with the new MSN Premium Internet Software. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-uspage=byoa/premST=1
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I have always thought that bypassing the local distributor on new equipment is not the best thing to do. Pentax Canada, for example, does offer an international warranty on it's equipment, but Pentax USA, I believe, does not. Consider that if you are buying a product from a foriegn distributor, you are essentially contributing to a grey market problem, and the local Are you honestly telling me that 600$CDN = ~ 450$USD is worth a scrappy little paper saying warranty? Fortunately I've never had to deal with warranty issues for cameras but when it comes down to my audio equipment, my car etc. fighting for the damn warranty is a challenge in itself. I agree, knowing your dealer helps, but for me I go to many different camera shops and I doubt they know me by face. Just because I bought a lens from them doesn't make me any more special. For that price gap, I would go with BH. Don't get me wrong, sometimes the $$$ difference is worth it. I recently bought a new pair of bike wheels this summer, at about 1000$cdn from my local guy. I could've saved ~200$ if I had bought them from a large American store like coloradocyclist but I didn't. I've already sent back the stupid ass wheels twice for warranty. But you know what, everytime I do, I KNOW my store is behind me 100% and they try to get whats best for me. But for me 1345$USD at BH x 1.35 exchange now = 1815 local store (w/256mb card) 2099$cdn x 1.155 (tax) = 2425 that's a diff of 610$cdn. maybe less if we got the mem card at bh. for that price I could make roughly 10 round trips to NYC? (food + gas) and that's not even including the 300$US rebate. Canadian rebate? I haven't seen one... This communication is confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you believe this message has been sent to you in error, please notify the sender by replying to this transmission and delete the message without disclosing it. Thank you. E-mail including attachments is susceptible to data corruption, interruption, unauthorized amendment, tampering and viruses, and we only send and receive e-mails on the basis that we are not liable for any such corruption, interception, amendment, tampering or viruses or any consequences thereof.
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Thanks Bruce, that would be fantastic! tan. - Original Message - From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 9:12 AM Subject: Re: more *ist D pricing news... Hello Tanya, Guess I'll have to call my local shop where I got mine (less than BH at the time) and see what their pricing is like. I'll let you know what I find out. -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, January 1, 2004, 2:43:02 PM, you wrote: TMP Last night I sent this email to both B and H and Adorama: TMP My name is Tanya Mayer and I am a professional photographer located in TMP Australia (www.tanyamayer.com). TMP I am writing as I am wishing to purchase a Pentax *istD with DA 16-45mm TMP lens. TMP This morning, I was made aware of the following, just released from the TMP Pentax USA website: TMP http://www.pentaxusa.com/news/news_display.cfm?pressid=174 TMP In a nutshell, it says: TMP PENTAX U.S.A., Inc. has reduced the retail price of the*ist D TMP Digital SLR by $300. The legendary camera manufacturer also is offering TMP consumers an additional $200 cash back when combined with the purchase TMP of the PENTAX 16-45mm DA digital lens. These special savings are in TMP effect February 1, 2004 through June 30, 2004. TMP I am writing to ask when I may expect to see these prices reflected in TMP those listed on your website, and also, if I were to purchase from here TMP in Australia, would I be eligible for the US$200 cash back? TMP I really want to purchase this prior to the end of this month, so any TMP information that you could offer would be most appreciated. TMP This is what I got back from each of them... TMP Adorama - Sorry not yet maybe in a couple of weeks TMP B and H - TMP Hello, IST D DIGITAL CAMERA $1699.95 TMP $1349.95 TMP The lens is not available yet. TMP Hmmm, great customer relations eh? TMP So, it looks like I am going to have to hold out for a while longer... I TMP was thinking that some of you may be saying to yourselves girl, just go and TMP buy the bloody thing, it's only $300 etc, BUT the US$300 and the US$200 TMP rebate translate to $657 at today's exchange rate, and this could very well TMP be the difference between me being able to afford to come to GFM or not! TMP Have to say though, I am totally unimpressed by the shortness of both of TMP their replies, I mean they didn't even say thanks for your enquiry or TMP whatever... TMP I am going to ring Pentax Australia (CR Kennedy) right now to see what they TMP have to say... TMP tan. *who WANTS her *istD! but refuses to pay more than she has to for it!*
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I'm not too phased by that actually Dave. I was hoping to have it a fortnight before my shoot - but I am sure that I would be fine. I have only had the Oly now for 5 weeks, and I have already shot 6 weddings, 5 portrait sittings and 2 commercial sittings with it. Add to this, the shots of my kids, practice shots etc, and I have already clocked up over 3000 frames. I shot a wedding with the Oly exactly 8 days after I received it and this was a camera that was built by a completely different manufacturer than anything I had ever used before! It took me about 2-3 days to get used to the AF, but the controls were pretty intuitive. Judging by what I have seen of the *istD - I don't think that the switch will seem any more dramatic than with the Oly, the controls etc are place pretty similarly from what i can tell, and the use of my old familiar lenses and flash guns will be a god-send. Of course, if I would never even attempt a professional gig with it if I wasn't completely comfortable with it in my hand, and I can pretty much tell after a few days if this would be the case or not. Doesn't matter now though, as it seems I am going to have to do even more research before I purchase one, and it looks like anything reflecting the price drops are going to be a long time coming anyways... Many thanks for your concern though! tan. - Original Message - From: David Miers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 9:23 AM Subject: RE: more *ist D pricing news... Tanya Just a thought here to help you be patient. I remember you saying you wanted it for a wedding I believe you mentioned in the end of Feb. Really and truly it would be a bit soon to try a professional shoot with a type and style of equipment you are not used to wouldn't it? You'd only have like a couple of weeks max to experiment before the real thing! Dave -Original Message- From: Tanya Mayer Photography [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2004 5:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: more *ist D pricing news... Last night I sent this email to both B and H and Adorama: My name is Tanya Mayer and I am a professional photographer located in Australia (www.tanyamayer.com). I am writing as I am wishing to purchase a Pentax *istD with DA 16-45mm lens. This morning, I was made aware of the following, just released from the Pentax USA website: http://www.pentaxusa.com/news/news_display.cfm?pressid=174 In a nutshell, it says: PENTAX U.S.A., Inc. has reduced the retail price of the*ist D Digital SLR by $300. The legendary camera manufacturer also is offering consumers an additional $200 cash back when combined with the purchase of the PENTAX 16-45mm DA digital lens. These special savings are in effect February 1, 2004 through June 30, 2004. I am writing to ask when I may expect to see these prices reflected in those listed on your website, and also, if I were to purchase from here in Australia, would I be eligible for the US$200 cash back? I really want to purchase this prior to the end of this month, so any information that you could offer would be most appreciated. This is what I got back from each of them... Adorama - Sorry not yet maybe in a couple of weeks B and H - Hello, IST D DIGITAL CAMERA $1699.95 $1349.95 The lens is not available yet. Hmmm, great customer relations eh? So, it looks like I am going to have to hold out for a while longer... I was thinking that some of you may be saying to yourselves girl, just go and buy the bloody thing, it's only $300 etc, BUT the US$300 and the US$200 rebate translate to $657 at today's exchange rate, and this could very well be the difference between me being able to afford to come to GFM or not! Have to say though, I am totally unimpressed by the shortness of both of their replies, I mean they didn't even say thanks for your enquiry or whatever... I am going to ring Pentax Australia (CR Kennedy) right now to see what they have to say... tan. *who WANTS her *istD! but refuses to pay more than she has to for it!*
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Hi, The UK's are based on one, the Sale of Goods Act 1898 (I think) that states that all goods must be of merchantable quality and fit for purpose. There are many descendants of this law. It is heavily biased towards the consumer, I suspect to protect the upper and middle classes of the time from the hordes of rogue traders they had to deal with. you haven't been paying attention have you, Mike! Still, what can we expect from a Celt? g In one of his 'What the Victorians Did For Us' programmes Adam Hart-Davies talked about this. The shopkeepers of the time were making biscuits and so on from the sweepings, rat fur and mouse crap on their shopfloors and selling them cheap to the workers. These wholesome practices also gave rise to branding, giving consumers some way to recognise quality (!). -- Cheers, Bob
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At 04:27 PM 02/02/2004, wendy beard wrote: You've forgotten to factor in the Tax you get clobbered for when the camera comes over the border and the shipping cost. So really, that camera from BH ~could~ cost (1815 x 1.15) + (40 x 1.35) = 2141 Well, I didn't *forget* so much as omit. I have some American friends who come to Canada so I just get them to bring in stuff for me. I think I pay enough income tax as is. Sigh... the disadvantage of living of Canada... and this damn cold... I thought I was going to die last week. (Did your 10 round trips to NYC cover the cost of you taking the day off work to do it as well? What's that, another $400 ;-) ) no. but at this rate, I'll be laid off anyway so I say its negligible haha. deechee This communication is confidential and intended solely for the addressee(s). Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you believe this message has been sent to you in error, please notify the sender by replying to this transmission and delete the message without disclosing it. Thank you. E-mail including attachments is susceptible to data corruption, interruption, unauthorized amendment, tampering and viruses, and we only send and receive e-mails on the basis that we are not liable for any such corruption, interception, amendment, tampering or viruses or any consequences thereof.
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- Original Message - From: Daichi Saeki (QA/EMC) Subject: Re: more *ist D pricing news... Are you honestly telling me that 600$CDN = ~ 450$USD is worth a scrappy little paper saying warranty? Fortunately I've never had to deal with warranty issues for cameras but when it comes down to my audio equipment, my car etc. fighting for the damn warranty is a challenge in itself. I agree, knowing your dealer helps, but for me I go to many different camera shops and I doubt they know me by face. Just because I bought a lens from them doesn't make me any more special. For that price gap, I would go with BH. I don't know where you are getting your numbers. It sounds like you are comparing prices of a lowball US dealer (BH) with a high end botique in Canada. When I bought my istD, the difference in price from USA at BH) and Canada (Don's Photo) was about 50 bucks in favour of buying Canadian. I got a better price, don't have to deal with customs or those whores at UPS, and I have a Canadian warranty. YMMV. William Robb
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On 2 Feb 2004 at 12:18, Daichi Saeki (QA/EMC) wrote: Are you honestly telling me that 600$CDN = ~ 450$USD is worth a scrappy little paper saying warranty? Fortunately I've never had to deal with warranty issues for cameras but when it comes down to my audio equipment, my car etc. fighting for the damn warranty is a challenge in itself. We are talking of a digital camera here, problems will and do occur far more often than with film cameras. It's for the purpose of local warranty support that I chose to make my *ist D purchase local, a thing that I rarely do if purchasing lenses or other photographic peripherals. Mine will be going back under warranty when I get the opportunity as it has developed problems. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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Bill - how do you really feel about UPS? Norm William Robb wrote: snip or those whores at UPS, and I have a Canadian warranty.
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On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Rob Studdert wrote: On 2 Feb 2004 at 12:18, Daichi Saeki (QA/EMC) wrote: Are you honestly telling me that 600$CDN = ~ 450$USD is worth a scrappy little paper saying warranty? Fortunately I've never had to deal with warranty issues for cameras but when it comes down to my audio equipment, my car etc. fighting for the damn warranty is a challenge in itself. We are talking of a digital camera here, problems will and do occur far more often than with film cameras. It's for the purpose of local warranty support that I chose to make my *ist D purchase local, a thing that I rarely do if purchasing lenses or other photographic peripherals. My *ist D went back after two days due to some dead pixels. I would also recommend purchasing locally so that you can test for dead pixels and return it if necessary. I was an early adopter so I didn't spend much more for the privledge of purchasing locally. Right now the store that I bought from (http://www.kcamera.com) is advertising the camera for $150 more than BH or Adorama. alex
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- Original Message - From: Norm Baugher Subject: Re: more *ist D pricing news... Bill - how do you really feel about UPS? You must have missed the story about my coming home and finding a parcel addressed to me sitting on the street in front of my house. The lazy jerk couldn't even throw it far enough to make it across the sidewalk. William Robb
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I was quoted 1333 USD for a new PZ1p a couple or three years ago and bought one brand new from BH for 479 USD. Huge difference in money mileage. Regards, Robert
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Hello Tanya, Just talked to them. They have bodies in stock, but their pricing has only dropped $100.00. They used to be below retail, now they are basically at retail with the price drop. So a body is $1390. The lens isn't in stock yet. So if price is the top priority, my guess is that Adorama is going to be the lowest reputable price. If you want to buy one for $1390, that I can check out before shipping it on, let me know. -- Best regards, Bruce Friday, January 2, 2004, 12:26:07 PM, you wrote: TMP Thanks Bruce, that would be fantastic! TMP tan. TMP - Original Message - TMP From: Bruce Dayton [EMAIL PROTECTED] TMP To: Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] TMP Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 9:12 AM TMP Subject: Re: more *ist D pricing news... Hello Tanya, Guess I'll have to call my local shop where I got mine (less than BH at the time) and see what their pricing is like. I'll let you know what I find out. -- Best regards, Bruce Thursday, January 1, 2004, 2:43:02 PM, you wrote: TMP Last night I sent this email to both B and H and Adorama: TMP My name is Tanya Mayer and I am a professional photographer located TMP in TMP Australia (www.tanyamayer.com). TMP I am writing as I am wishing to purchase a Pentax *istD with DA TMP 16-45mm TMP lens. TMP This morning, I was made aware of the following, just released from TMP the TMP Pentax USA website: TMP http://www.pentaxusa.com/news/news_display.cfm?pressid=174 TMP In a nutshell, it says: TMP PENTAX U.S.A., Inc. has reduced the retail price of the*ist D TMP Digital SLR by $300. The legendary camera manufacturer also is TMP offering TMP consumers an additional $200 cash back when combined with the TMP purchase TMP of the PENTAX 16-45mm DA digital lens. These special savings are in TMP effect February 1, 2004 through June 30, 2004. TMP I am writing to ask when I may expect to see these prices reflected TMP in TMP those listed on your website, and also, if I were to purchase from TMP here TMP in Australia, would I be eligible for the US$200 cash back? TMP I really want to purchase this prior to the end of this month, so any TMP information that you could offer would be most appreciated. TMP This is what I got back from each of them... TMP Adorama - Sorry not yet maybe in a couple of weeks TMP B and H - TMP Hello, IST D DIGITAL CAMERA $1699.95 TMP $1349.95 TMP The lens is not available yet. TMP Hmmm, great customer relations eh? TMP So, it looks like I am going to have to hold out for a while TMP longer... I TMP was thinking that some of you may be saying to yourselves girl, just TMP go and TMP buy the bloody thing, it's only $300 etc, BUT the US$300 and the TMP US$200 TMP rebate translate to $657 at today's exchange rate, and this could TMP very well TMP be the difference between me being able to afford to come to GFM or TMP not! TMP Have to say though, I am totally unimpressed by the shortness of both TMP of TMP their replies, I mean they didn't even say thanks for your enquiry TMP or TMP whatever... TMP I am going to ring Pentax Australia (CR Kennedy) right now to see TMP what they TMP have to say... TMP tan. *who WANTS her *istD! but refuses to pay more than she has to TMP for it!*
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I purchased from both BH and Adorama. Painful experience, as the overseas transaction shocked them (not a standard shipment to Colorado Aarg! Panic! What are we going to do???) ;-) All e-mail correspondence very short. Sometimes I had to break it up into parts, so the laconic answers covered all my questions. (if you ask How much is it, how much for shipment to Oz, do you have it in stock and how quickly can you send it - it short-circuits their brains and systems. I'll bet a lot of money on that they will miss at least one) When I called for price, quite often the operator put me on hold. I suspect that they dealt with several clients simultaneously. While I am not a person who likes to engage in a lengthy conversations with 'strangers' and I am strongly against thank-you-for-your-business-please-call-again-we-love-your-money-how-much-more-can-I-suck-up-to-you-SIR?, I thought that the calls to US were too business like. No attempt to ask is there anything else. It almost felt like I was bothering them. If it wasn't for me quickly asking another question, before they finished providing me with the answer for the previous one, I would have to call 7 times, instead of just once. Oh well, such is life in the Big Apple. ;-D (*)o(*) Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Are you honestly telling me that 600$CDN = ~ 450$USD is worth a scrappy little paper saying warranty? We have (officially) purchased thousands of dollars of Pentax equipment from the US, as it worked out cheaper than buing in Australia. We saved at least 40% on photo gear and about 50% on films. All shipments (even though some were late) got here safe and sound. Very well packed and processed without delays. Australian customs will charge the privilege fee and the GST and once you've paid that (we did over the phone by credit card) you get your gear. If you know your docket number, you can even call them in advance. They were quite efficient in all instances. If you think I am crazy wanting to pay GST - consider that - we pay 10% tax, then we can claim it on our tax retur as a business expense and get 20-40% back. Ha! CR Kennedy were unmoved by the fact that we could get it elsewhere for about half price. They considered dropping the price of Z-1p by $50 to have our business. We got 4-5 bodies, a few lenses, 500ftz flashes and other stuff. Nothing required any warranty repairs. One camera (after a few hundred rolls of film) had to have a winder mechanism part replaced, but it wouldn't be a warranty repair anyway. Warranty does not really stop me from buying overseas. When we got 2 Z-1p's, and we saved over a $1000 on the deal, even if something had to be repaired and it cost $500, you would still be ahead! (*)o(*) Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 3 Feb 2004 at 14:53, mapson wrote: While I am not a person who likes to engage in a lengthy conversations with 'strangers' and I am strongly against thank-you-for-your-business-please-call-again-we-love-your-money-how-much-more-c an-I-suck-up-to-you-SIR?, I thought that the calls to US were too business like. No attempt to ask is there anything else. It almost felt like I was bothering them. If it wasn't for me quickly asking another question, before they finished providing me with the answer for the previous one, I would have to call 7 times, instead of just once. Oh well, such is life in the Big Apple. ;-D The guys at Adorama and BH are generally quite friendly and helpful when dealing over-the-counter. If you really get a raw deal at BH just email Henry Posner direct. Cheers, Rob Studdert HURSTVILLE AUSTRALIA Tel +61-2-9554-4110 UTC(GMT) +10 Hours [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://members.ozemail.com.au/~distudio/publications/ Pentax user since 1986, PDMLer since 1998
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UPS sucks in Canada tooh Norm William Robb wrote: - Original Message - From: Norm Baugher Subject: Re: more *ist D pricing news... Bill - how do you really feel about UPS? You must have missed the story about my coming home and finding a parcel addressed to me sitting on the street in front of my house. The lazy jerk couldn't even throw it far enough to make it across the sidewalk. William Robb
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- Original Message - From: Norm Baugher Subject: Re: more *ist D pricing news... UPS sucks in Canada tooh You are a master of understatement William Robb
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Greetings Tanya and all Banana Bendersfrom a Crow Eaterwho lives in the Convict State.Tanya CR Kennedy's have guaranteed(on their website) to match any internet quote.here or in the U.S.etc.on the *istD and the Sigma SD 9-10.All you have to do is send an attachment of the e.g.BH quote and they will ,after conversion GST and PH is added deliver it to your door with an Australian Warranty.In other words the same as you would pay if bought o'seas.Hope this expedites your digital purchase. Regards Chris Kennedy(no relation).
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No kidding Chris! Any internet quote? How did you find this out? Regards, Ryan in Brissie - Original Message - From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 10:35 AM Subject: *ist D Pricing News Greetings Tanya and all Banana Bendersfrom a Crow Eaterwho lives in the Convict State.Tanya CR Kennedy's have guaranteed(on their website) to match any internet quote.here or in the U.S.etc.on the *istD and the Sigma SD 9-10.All you have to do is send an attachment of the e.g.BH quote and they will ,after conversion GST and PH is added deliver it to your door with an Australian Warranty.In other words the same as you would pay if bought o'seas.Hope this expedites your digital purchase. Regards Chris Kennedy(no relation).
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Both companies are famous for NYC curtness. Don't take it as a put down, it is just their way. New Yorkers are strange people, they will call you all kinds of nasty names while giving you their right arm. The curtness probably comes from have 11 million neighbors all wanting attention at the same time. -- Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: Last night I sent this email to both B and H and Adorama: My name is Tanya Mayer and I am a professional photographer located in Australia (www.tanyamayer.com). I am writing as I am wishing to purchase a Pentax *istD with DA 16-45mm lens. This morning, I was made aware of the following, just released from the Pentax USA website: http://www.pentaxusa.com/news/news_display.cfm?pressid=174 In a nutshell, it says: PENTAX U.S.A., Inc. has reduced the retail price of the*ist D Digital SLR by $300. The legendary camera manufacturer also is offering consumers an additional $200 cash back when combined with the purchase of the PENTAX 16-45mm DA digital lens. These special savings are in effect February 1, 2004 through June 30, 2004. I am writing to ask when I may expect to see these prices reflected in those listed on your website, and also, if I were to purchase from here in Australia, would I be eligible for the US$200 cash back? I really want to purchase this prior to the end of this month, so any information that you could offer would be most appreciated. This is what I got back from each of them... Adorama - Sorry not yet maybe in a couple of weeks B and H - Hello, IST D DIGITAL CAMERA $1699.95 $1349.95 The lens is not available yet. Hmmm, great customer relations eh? So, it looks like I am going to have to hold out for a while longer... I was thinking that some of you may be saying to yourselves girl, just go and buy the bloody thing, it's only $300 etc, BUT the US$300 and the US$200 rebate translate to $657 at today's exchange rate, and this could very well be the difference between me being able to afford to come to GFM or not! Have to say though, I am totally unimpressed by the shortness of both of their replies, I mean they didn't even say thanks for your enquiry or whatever... I am going to ring Pentax Australia (CR Kennedy) right now to see what they have to say... tan. *who WANTS her *istD! but refuses to pay more than she has to for it!* -- graywolf http://graywolfphoto.com You might as well accept people as they are, you are not going to be able to change them anyway.
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Actually - think about the time, place, and circumstances. 1. Most places here in the States don't fully staff on weekends. Particularly Sundays. Particularly Super Bowl Sunday. If retail, the sales people are there, but not necessarily the big guys. Sunday-Monday in Oz is only Saturday-Sunday in the Big Apple. Both BH and Adorama observe the Jewish Sabbath (Saturday on the common calendar), that is the only reason you got an answer on Sunday at all. 2. The East Coast has been getting hammered with snow, ice, and cold. 3. Pentax announced this on Friday. Do you suppose they gave advance notice of the pricing shift to area reps? Do you suppose the reps had a chance to discuss the implications with all of their major accounts? 4. See note 1 above. Do you think the sales reps were working this weekend? See note 2. I think you should be quite pleased that you received any answer at all! Really remarkable under the circumstances. Patience is a virtue... Stan graywolf wrote: Both companies are famous for NYC curtness. Don't take it as a put down, it is just their way. New Yorkers are strange people, they will call you all kinds of nasty names while giving you their right arm. The curtness probably comes from have 11 million neighbors all wanting attention at the same time. -- Tanya Mayer Photography wrote: Last night I sent this email to both B and H and Adorama: My name is Tanya Mayer and I am a professional photographer located in Australia (www.tanyamayer.com). I am writing as I am wishing to purchase a Pentax *istD with DA 16-45mm lens. This morning, I was made aware of the following, just released from the Pentax USA website: http://www.pentaxusa.com/news/news_display.cfm?pressid=174 In a nutshell, it says: PENTAX U.S.A., Inc. has reduced the retail price of the*ist D Digital SLR by $300. The legendary camera manufacturer also is offering consumers an additional $200 cash back when combined with the purchase of the PENTAX 16-45mm DA digital lens. These special savings are in effect February 1, 2004 through June 30, 2004. I am writing to ask when I may expect to see these prices reflected in those listed on your website, and also, if I were to purchase from here in Australia, would I be eligible for the US$200 cash back? I really want to purchase this prior to the end of this month, so any information that you could offer would be most appreciated. This is what I got back from each of them... Adorama - Sorry not yet maybe in a couple of weeks B and H - Hello, IST D DIGITAL CAMERA $1699.95 $1349.95 The lens is not available yet. Hmmm, great customer relations eh? So, it looks like I am going to have to hold out for a while longer... I was thinking that some of you may be saying to yourselves girl, just go and buy the bloody thing, it's only $300 etc, BUT the US$300 and the US$200 rebate translate to $657 at today's exchange rate, and this could very well be the difference between me being able to afford to come to GFM or not! Have to say though, I am totally unimpressed by the shortness of both of their replies, I mean they didn't even say thanks for your enquiry or whatever... I am going to ring Pentax Australia (CR Kennedy) right now to see what they have to say... tan. *who WANTS her *istD! but refuses to pay more than she has to for it!*
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Thanks Chris, I have already approached them about it, I've known about this for some time now (thanks for taking the time to offer the info though!). Ryan - it is on their website, but it isn't exactly true. I sent them that site that was advertising it for US$1100 a few weeks back and the best offer they could give me, although cheaper than anyone else in Aus., was still just over $2k. With the price decrease etc, even with GST and postage, I figure I should be able to pick one up from the US for around the $1700 mark (and if I do it cleverly enough, I should be able to avoid the GST too), and I am waiting for CR Kennedy to respond to my observations of this in an email that I sent them yesterday. Rob (Studdert) recently enabled himself this way (via CR Kennedy) and paid alot more for his than what they offered me only a few days later, so with the now official price drop, I am hoping that they have some better news for me today... I am currently planning the purchase from the US with the assistance of another PDML'er, but warranty is a big concern so I won't be going ahead with it until I know for sure that it will be Australian based. I will let you all know how it pans out...! tan. - Original Message - From: Ryan Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 1:17 PM Subject: Re: *ist D Pricing News No kidding Chris! Any internet quote? How did you find this out? Regards, Ryan in Brissie - Original Message - From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 10:35 AM Subject: *ist D Pricing News Greetings Tanya and all Banana Bendersfrom a Crow Eaterwho lives in the Convict State.Tanya CR Kennedy's have guaranteed(on their website) to match any internet quote.here or in the U.S.etc.on the *istD and the Sigma SD 9-10.All you have to do is send an attachment of the e.g.BH quote and they will ,after conversion GST and PH is added deliver it to your door with an Australian Warranty.In other words the same as you would pay if bought o'seas.Hope this expedites your digital purchase. Regards Chris Kennedy(no relation).
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This one time, at band camp, Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the price decrease etc, even with GST and postage, I figure I should be able to pick one up from the US for around the $1700 mark Isnt duty applicable on these? Kind regards Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia
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I'm guessing it probably is a bit of a gamble. Some vendors do help you though.. I just spent about AUD300 on a Singh Ray filter and they were nice enough to declare it '$0/commercial sample' on the little green label. Doubt BH would be as matesy though.. Cheers, Ryan - Original Message - From: Kevin Waterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 02, 2004 3:44 PM Subject: Re: *ist D Pricing News With the price decrease etc, even with GST and postage, I figure I should be able to pick one up from the US for around the $1700 mark Isnt duty applicable on these? Kind regards Kevin
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At 04:44 PM 2/02/2004 +1100, you wrote: This one time, at band camp, Tanya Mayer Photography [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With the price decrease etc, even with GST and postage, I figure I should be able to pick one up from the US for around the $1700 mark Isnt duty applicable on these? NO It used to be a case of (I think) 22% sales tax and 32% duty. Now it is just 10% GST, but it includes the PH - 10% on the total amount that you paid. Kind regards Kevin -- __ (_ \ _) ) | / / _ ) / _ | / ___) / _ ) | | ( (/ / ( ( | |( (___ ( (/ / |_| \) \_||_| \) \) Kevin Waterson Port Macquarie, Australia (*)o(*) Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
