Re: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011

[Brian Walters]

On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 09:32 -0500, "Daniel J. Matyola"
 wrote:
> Any news on the Dec 2010 PUG?


Should be soon.  Scott has taken down the December submission form in
the last day or so  - I expect he'll be posting the December gallery
shortly.

Cheers

Brian

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> 
> Dan
> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> 
> On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 8:14 AM, eckinator  wrote:
> > Great job Brian - are images for any given month only accepted during
> > that month or is it OK to submit in advance so as to not forget?
> > Cheers
> > Ecke
> >
> > 2010/12/14 Brian Walters :
> >> G'day all
> >>
> >> Here's the short list of potential themes for the PUG in 2011.  Only
> >> January is locked in but the others will be locked in by the end of the
> >> week unless anyone feels that some are simply too
> >> easy/difficult/obscure/impenetrable:
> >>
> >> January: Patterns in Nature
> >> February: Life's Simple Pleasures
> >> March: Big Weather
> >> April: Memories of Kodachrome
> >> May: Found Objects
> >> June: Close to Home
> >> July: Strange
> >> August: Monochrome Landscapes
> >> September: Self Portrait
> >> October: Roads
> >> November: Underfoot
> >> December: The Ravages of Time
> >>
> >> The list has been compiled based on suggestions received and looking at
> >> past gallery themes.
> >>
> >> Note that if you don't want to submit a themed image in any month, you
> >> can submit a non-themed image as part of each month's 'Open Gallery'.
> >>
> >> +++
> >>
> >> As mentioned in my previous post of a few days ago, the January
> >> Submission form is now open at:
> >>
> >> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
> >>
> >> And the Submission Guidelines are here:
> >>
> >> http://pug.komkon.org/general/PUG-Guidelines.html
> >>
> >> Submissions will be accepted until 31 December, at least
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
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Re: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011

[Brian Walters]

On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 14:14 +0100, "eckinator" 
wrote:
> Great job Brian - are images for any given month only accepted during
> that month or is it OK to submit in advance so as to not forget?
> Cheers


Yes - once I amend the submission form (in a few days), all months will
be listed and you will be able to submit for any month at any time.


Cheers

Brian

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> Ecke
> 
> 2010/12/14 Brian Walters :
> > G'day all
> >
> > Here's the short list of potential themes for the PUG in 2011.  Only
> > January is locked in but the others will be locked in by the end of the
> > week unless anyone feels that some are simply too
> > easy/difficult/obscure/impenetrable:
> >
> > January: Patterns in Nature
> > February: Life's Simple Pleasures
> > March: Big Weather
> > April: Memories of Kodachrome
> > May: Found Objects
> > June: Close to Home
> > July: Strange
> > August: Monochrome Landscapes
> > September: Self Portrait
> > October: Roads
> > November: Underfoot
> > December: The Ravages of Time
> >
> > The list has been compiled based on suggestions received and looking at
> > past gallery themes.
> >
> > Note that if you don't want to submit a themed image in any month, you
> > can submit a non-themed image as part of each month's 'Open Gallery'.
> >
> > +++
> >
> > As mentioned in my previous post of a few days ago, the January
> > Submission form is now open at:
> >
> > http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
> >
> > And the Submission Guidelines are here:
> >
> > http://pug.komkon.org/general/PUG-Guidelines.html
> >
> > Submissions will be accepted until 31 December, at least
> >
>
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Re: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011

[Brian Walters]

G'day Pete

On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 20:01 +1100, "Peter McIntosh" 
wrote:

> 
> Top stuff. And it looks like I'll finally have some time to myself now
> (we've sold and move to Melbourne next weekend), so I'll be trying to
> get an entry in for each month.  Hmmm... January may be an issue (busy
> unpacking), but all other months should be do-able.  And most likely a
> new camera to boot!
> 
> Compliments of the season to you (and all other PDML-ers),
> 


Thanks - and the same to you.  I'm looking forward to your submissions.

Best of luck in the new city.  I think you'll enjoy it down there. 
Despite the so-called Sydney-Melbourne rivalry, and much as I like
Sydney, I always enjoy going to Melbourne.  Great vineyards nearby, too!


Cheers

Brian

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Re: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Any news on the Dec 2010 PUG?

Dan
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola

On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 8:14 AM, eckinator  wrote:
> Great job Brian - are images for any given month only accepted during
> that month or is it OK to submit in advance so as to not forget?
> Cheers
> Ecke
>
> 2010/12/14 Brian Walters :
>> G'day all
>>
>> Here's the short list of potential themes for the PUG in 2011.  Only
>> January is locked in but the others will be locked in by the end of the
>> week unless anyone feels that some are simply too
>> easy/difficult/obscure/impenetrable:
>>
>> January: Patterns in Nature
>> February: Life's Simple Pleasures
>> March: Big Weather
>> April: Memories of Kodachrome
>> May: Found Objects
>> June: Close to Home
>> July: Strange
>> August: Monochrome Landscapes
>> September: Self Portrait
>> October: Roads
>> November: Underfoot
>> December: The Ravages of Time
>>
>> The list has been compiled based on suggestions received and looking at
>> past gallery themes.
>>
>> Note that if you don't want to submit a themed image in any month, you
>> can submit a non-themed image as part of each month's 'Open Gallery'.
>>
>> +++
>>
>> As mentioned in my previous post of a few days ago, the January
>> Submission form is now open at:
>>
>> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>>
>> And the Submission Guidelines are here:
>>
>> http://pug.komkon.org/general/PUG-Guidelines.html
>>
>> Submissions will be accepted until 31 December, at least
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> ++
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>> Western Sydney Australia
>> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
>>
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Re: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011

[eckinator]

Great job Brian - are images for any given month only accepted during
that month or is it OK to submit in advance so as to not forget?
Cheers
Ecke

2010/12/14 Brian Walters :
> G'day all
>
> Here's the short list of potential themes for the PUG in 2011.  Only
> January is locked in but the others will be locked in by the end of the
> week unless anyone feels that some are simply too
> easy/difficult/obscure/impenetrable:
>
> January: Patterns in Nature
> February: Life's Simple Pleasures
> March: Big Weather
> April: Memories of Kodachrome
> May: Found Objects
> June: Close to Home
> July: Strange
> August: Monochrome Landscapes
> September: Self Portrait
> October: Roads
> November: Underfoot
> December: The Ravages of Time
>
> The list has been compiled based on suggestions received and looking at
> past gallery themes.
>
> Note that if you don't want to submit a themed image in any month, you
> can submit a non-themed image as part of each month's 'Open Gallery'.
>
> +++
>
> As mentioned in my previous post of a few days ago, the January
> Submission form is now open at:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>
> And the Submission Guidelines are here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/PUG-Guidelines.html
>
> Submissions will be accepted until 31 December, at least
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
>
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Re: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011

[Boris Liberman]

On 12/14/2010 2:07 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

Here's the short list of potential themes for the PUG in 2011.  Only
January is locked in but the others will be locked in by the end of the
week unless anyone feels that some are simply too
easy/difficult/obscure/impenetrable:


Great work, Brian. I hope to be able to submit to the most of the themed 
galleries.


Boris

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Re: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011

[Peter McIntosh]

On 14 December 2010 11:07, Brian Walters  wrote:
> G'day all
>
> Here's the short list of potential themes for the PUG in 2011.  Only
> January is locked in but the others will be locked in by the end of the
> week unless anyone feels that some are simply too
> easy/difficult/obscure/impenetrable:
>
> January: Patterns in Nature
> February: Life's Simple Pleasures
> March: Big Weather
> April: Memories of Kodachrome
> May: Found Objects
> June: Close to Home
> July: Strange
> August: Monochrome Landscapes
> September: Self Portrait
> October: Roads
> November: Underfoot
> December: The Ravages of Time
>
> The list has been compiled based on suggestions received and looking at
> past gallery themes.
>
> Note that if you don't want to submit a themed image in any month, you
> can submit a non-themed image as part of each month's 'Open Gallery'.
>
> +++
>
> As mentioned in my previous post of a few days ago, the January
> Submission form is now open at:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>
> And the Submission Guidelines are here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/PUG-Guidelines.html
>
> Submissions will be accepted until 31 December, at least
>
>

Hi Brian,

Top stuff. And it looks like I'll finally have some time to myself now
(we've sold and move to Melbourne next weekend), so I'll be trying to
get an entry in for each month.  Hmmm... January may be an issue (busy
unpacking), but all other months should be do-able.  And most likely a
new camera to boot!

Compliments of the season to you (and all other PDML-ers),

Pete Mac

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Re: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011

[Brian Walters]

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 20:49 -0500, "Ken Waller" 
wrote:
> Thanks Brian.
> 
> Did I miss the December PUG ?
> 


No - I think Scott's still working on it.


Cheers

Brian

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> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Brian Walters" 
> 
> Subject: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011
> 
> 
> > G'day all
> > 
> > Here's the short list of potential themes for the PUG in 2011.  Only
> > January is locked in but the others will be locked in by the end of the
> > week unless anyone feels that some are simply too
> > easy/difficult/obscure/impenetrable:
> > 
> > January: Patterns in Nature
> > February: Life's Simple Pleasures
> > March: Big Weather
> > April: Memories of Kodachrome
> > May: Found Objects
> > June: Close to Home
> > July: Strange
> > August: Monochrome Landscapes
> > September: Self Portrait
> > October: Roads
> > November: Underfoot
> > December: The Ravages of Time
> > 
> > The list has been compiled based on suggestions received and looking at
> > past gallery themes.
> > 
> > Note that if you don't want to submit a themed image in any month, you
> > can submit a non-themed image as part of each month's 'Open Gallery'.
> > 
> > +++
> > 
> > As mentioned in my previous post of a few days ago, the January
> > Submission form is now open at:
> > 
> > http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
> > 
> > And the Submission Guidelines are here:
> > 
> > http://pug.komkon.org/general/PUG-Guidelines.html
> > 
> > Submissions will be accepted until 31 December, at least
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > Brian
> > 
> > ++
> > Brian Walters
> > Western Sydney Australia
> > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> 
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Re: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011

[Ken Waller]

Thanks Brian.

Did I miss the December PUG ?

Kenneth Waller
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller

- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Walters" 


Subject: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011



G'day all

Here's the short list of potential themes for the PUG in 2011.  Only
January is locked in but the others will be locked in by the end of the
week unless anyone feels that some are simply too
easy/difficult/obscure/impenetrable:

January: Patterns in Nature
February: Life's Simple Pleasures
March: Big Weather
April: Memories of Kodachrome
May: Found Objects
June: Close to Home
July: Strange
August: Monochrome Landscapes
September: Self Portrait
October: Roads
November: Underfoot
December: The Ravages of Time

The list has been compiled based on suggestions received and looking at
past gallery themes.

Note that if you don't want to submit a themed image in any month, you
can submit a non-themed image as part of each month's 'Open Gallery'.

+++

As mentioned in my previous post of a few days ago, the January
Submission form is now open at:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

And the Submission Guidelines are here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/PUG-Guidelines.html

Submissions will be accepted until 31 December, at least



Cheers

Brian

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Re: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011

[Ann Sanfedele]

Brian Walters wrote:


Hi Ann

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 19:13 -0500, "Ann Sanfedele" 
wrote:
 

Brian - Good work!  I think those are great.  
What is the deadline for January?

(forgive me if you told us already)

   



You're forgiven! It was at the bottom of my post.

31 December, nominally, but given that I'll probably be celebrating on
New Year's Eve, the form will be open until my head clears - probably a
day or two into 2011, at least. 


:-)>




Cheers

Brian

Phew!   and thanks for the forgiveness.   I SHOULD be able to find a 
pattern by then...


Amy Lowell








 


Brian Walters wrote:

   


G'day all

Here's the short list of potential themes for the PUG in 2011.  Only
January is locked in but the others will be locked in by the end of the
week unless anyone feels that some are simply too
easy/difficult/obscure/impenetrable:

January: Patterns in Nature
February: Life's Simple Pleasures
March: Big Weather
April: Memories of Kodachrome
May: Found Objects
June: Close to Home
July: Strange
August: Monochrome Landscapes
September: Self Portrait
October: Roads
November: Underfoot
December: The Ravages of Time

The list has been compiled based on suggestions received and looking at
past gallery themes.

Note that if you don't want to submit a themed image in any month, you
can submit a non-themed image as part of each month's 'Open Gallery'.

+++

As mentioned in my previous post of a few days ago, the January
Submission form is now open at:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

And the Submission Guidelines are here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/PUG-Guidelines.html

Submissions will be accepted until 31 December, at least



Cheers

Brian

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Western Sydney Australia
http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/





 




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Re: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011

[Brian Walters]

Hi Bran

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 18:40 -0600, "Bran Everseeking"
 wrote:

> This is a good list and I am going to be trying to offer something for
> each gallery this year even if i do the open one...  strange should be
> fun.
 

Looking forward to seeing them!


> 
> these will all be at http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ correct?
> 


Yes, I'll amend the form to include the full list shortly.


Cheers

Brian


> On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 11:07:29 +1100
> Brian Walters  wrote:
> 
> > January: Patterns in Nature
> > February: Life's Simple Pleasures
> > March: Big Weather
> > April: Memories of Kodachrome
> > May: Found Objects
> > June: Close to Home
> > July: Strange
> > August: Monochrome Landscapes
> > September: Self Portrait
> > October: Roads
> > November: Underfoot
> > December: The Ravages of Time
> > 
> > The list has been compiled based on suggestions received and looking
> > at past gallery themes.
> > 
> > Note that if you don't want to submit a themed image in any month, you
> > can submit a non-themed image as part of each month's 'Open Gallery'.
> 
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Re: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011

[Bran Everseeking]

On Tue, 14 Dec 2010 11:07:29 +1100
Brian Walters  wrote:

> January: Patterns in Nature
> February: Life's Simple Pleasures
> March: Big Weather
> April: Memories of Kodachrome
> May: Found Objects
> June: Close to Home
> July: Strange
> August: Monochrome Landscapes
> September: Self Portrait
> October: Roads
> November: Underfoot
> December: The Ravages of Time
> 
> The list has been compiled based on suggestions received and looking
> at past gallery themes.
> 
> Note that if you don't want to submit a themed image in any month, you
> can submit a non-themed image as part of each month's 'Open Gallery'.


This is a good list and I am going to be trying to offer something for
each gallery this year even if i do the open one...  strange should be
fun.


these will all be at http://pug.komkon.org/submit/ correct?

Bran

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Re: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011

[Brian Walters]

Hi Ann

On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 19:13 -0500, "Ann Sanfedele" 
wrote:
> Brian - Good work!  I think those are great.  
> What is the deadline for January?
> (forgive me if you told us already)
> 

You're forgiven! It was at the bottom of my post.

31 December, nominally, but given that I'll probably be celebrating on
New Year's Eve, the form will be open until my head clears - probably a
day or two into 2011, at least. 

:-)>




Cheers

Brian


> Brian Walters wrote:
> 
> >G'day all
> >
> >Here's the short list of potential themes for the PUG in 2011.  Only
> >January is locked in but the others will be locked in by the end of the
> >week unless anyone feels that some are simply too
> >easy/difficult/obscure/impenetrable:
> >
> >January: Patterns in Nature
> >February: Life's Simple Pleasures
> >March: Big Weather
> >April: Memories of Kodachrome
> >May: Found Objects
> >June: Close to Home
> >July: Strange
> >August: Monochrome Landscapes
> >September: Self Portrait
> >October: Roads
> >November: Underfoot
> >December: The Ravages of Time
> >
> >The list has been compiled based on suggestions received and looking at
> >past gallery themes.
> >
> >Note that if you don't want to submit a themed image in any month, you
> >can submit a non-themed image as part of each month's 'Open Gallery'.
> >
> >+++
> >
> >As mentioned in my previous post of a few days ago, the January
> >Submission form is now open at:
> >
> >http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
> >
> >And the Submission Guidelines are here:
> >
> >http://pug.komkon.org/general/PUG-Guidelines.html
> >
> >Submissions will be accepted until 31 December, at least
> >
> >
> >
> >Cheers
> >
> >Brian
> >
> >++
> >Brian Walters
> >Western Sydney Australia
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> >
> >
> >
> >  
> >
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Re: Pentax Users gallery (PUG) - Themes for 2011

[Ann Sanfedele]

Brian - Good work!  I think those are great.  
What is the deadline for January?

(forgive me if you told us already)

ann
annsan.smugmug.com





Brian Walters wrote:


G'day all

Here's the short list of potential themes for the PUG in 2011.  Only
January is locked in but the others will be locked in by the end of the
week unless anyone feels that some are simply too
easy/difficult/obscure/impenetrable:

January: Patterns in Nature
February: Life's Simple Pleasures
March: Big Weather
April: Memories of Kodachrome
May: Found Objects
June: Close to Home
July: Strange
August: Monochrome Landscapes
September: Self Portrait
October: Roads
November: Underfoot
December: The Ravages of Time

The list has been compiled based on suggestions received and looking at
past gallery themes.

Note that if you don't want to submit a themed image in any month, you
can submit a non-themed image as part of each month's 'Open Gallery'.

+++

As mentioned in my previous post of a few days ago, the January
Submission form is now open at:

http://pug.komkon.org/submit/

And the Submission Guidelines are here:

http://pug.komkon.org/general/PUG-Guidelines.html

Submissions will be accepted until 31 December, at least



Cheers

Brian

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Theme for January 2011

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Sounds great!

Dan
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On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 5:22 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> G'day all
>
> Just to get you all thinking, let's ease into 2011 with a theme that
> shouldn't be too taxing on the brain cells - probably a good thing
> during the holiday season...
>
> * Patterns in Nature *
>
> In response to suggestions on the list, you can submit a non-themed
> image to the 'Open Gallery' if you don't want to submit for the theme.
> Pete Loveday also raised the issue of increasing the file size limits.
> I'm looking into that but, for January, the limits are the same as for
> 2010.
>
> So..
>
> Go at it!
>
> +
>
> The submission form is at:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/submit/
>
> * This is a different address to that which Scott used.
>
> * Although, the official deadline for submission of images is 20
> December, submissions up until 31 December (at least) will be accepted.
>
> Submissions Guidelines are here:
>
> http://pug.komkon.org/general/PUG-Guidelines.html
>
> The submission form looks much the same as in previous years except that
> there is now a drop-down list next to the 'Gallery Month" item.  You
> just select the month that you're submitting for, either 'Theme' or
> 'Open Gallery'.  At present, there's just January listed but once the
> remaining 2011 themes are finalised, you will be able to submit for any
> month at any time.
>
> The form now includes a 'spam minimizer' feature where you need to enter
> a two word code into a panel before uploading - you will have used a
> similar feature on many other sites - but let me know if it (or any
> other part of the form) causes problems.
>
> ++
>
> (PS.  Scott still has the December submission form active so presumably
> you can still submit a 'Pentax Photo Gallery Reject' if you're quick!
> The December submission form is at: http://pdmlpug.org/?page_id=58)
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

[eckinator]

2010/12/7 Igor Roshchin :
>> >
>> that will give a whole new meaning to the MP spec of a sensor...
>
> Too nerdy... Even I am lost now... Are you talking about Meow Police
> censorship? ;-)

sounds even better than the MegaPussy rating I had in mind ]=)
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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

[Igor Roshchin]

Sun Dec 5 15:17:39 CST 2010
eckinator wrote:

> 2010/12/5 Igor Roshchin :
> 
> >> >> p.s. So... what month are we having the cat photos?
> >> >>
> >> > I don't remember "catastrophy", "catapults" or "catalogs" suggested
> >> > as themes for the next year..
> >>
> >> that is because this year's "cat" theme will be concatenated RAW
> >> files
> >> - PDML takes ASCII art to the next level and beyond. separate
> >> categories for PEF and DNG as well as lower and upper case ]=)
> >
> > man cat(1)
> >
> > It will be called steganocatography.
> >
> > At that point the PUssycatGallery will be watched by the
> > Cat Investigation Agency and Feline Bureau of Investigation.
> 
> that will give a whole new meaning to the MP spec of a sensor...
 
Too nerdy... Even I am lost now... Are you talking about Meow Police
censorship? 
;-)

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

[David J Brooks]

On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Peter Loveday  wrote:
> I'd really like to see the limits increased a bit on the PUG.  256K? 720
> pixels?  Welcome to 1998 :)

1998, I'm, still trying to claw my way out of 1968.

Dave
>
> - Peter
>
> -Original Message- From: Brian Walters
> Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 10:09 AM
> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
> Subject: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011
>
> G'day all
>
> As you may be aware, Scott has decided to step down as PUGmeister and
> I've agreed to try to fill his shoes.  May be a forlorn task, but we'll
> see...
>
> Just to clarify what the PUG is all about for those new to the list:
>
> The PUG is this list's monthly themed photo gallery - it has nothing to
> do with the 'Pentax Photo Gallery' run by Pentax USA.  Basically, list
> members submit an image based on the monthly theme, the images are
> compiled into a gallery and each month the gallery is uploaded for the
> enjoyment of all.  The galleries are archived permanently and you can go
> back as far as 1998 to enjoy the images submitted in the past.
>
> The PUG is hosted on the Komkon server, facilitated by PDMLer Igor
> Roshchin, for which we are extremely grateful.
>
> There probably wont be too many obvious changes to the way the PUG
> operates.  Igor has installed the scripting software for the Submission
> Form on Komkon, so there will be a new location for that form but, like
> Scott, I'll be compiling the galleries using JAlbum, so they will look
> much the same as in the past.
>
> I'll post further details and themes for 2011 in a few days.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

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On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 00:33:25 -0500
"P. J. Alling"  wrote:

> I never submitted because I figured they'd all be rejected.  It takes
> a certain kind of mind to appreciate my lack of vision.
!MARK!

not only that I think i want that on my tomb pebble

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Yes, I think that we should have a section for "Open Gallery" or
non-theme images in every monthly gallery, as we did some time ago.
That may encourage more people to contribute.

Speaking of which, any news on the December PUG?

As an exercise, I went back and downloaded all my PUG entries, over
the past 11 years --  122 in total -- to my photo.met gallery.  Some I
had forgotten about, some I coulde no longer locate on my computer.
It was an interesting exercise.

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On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:33 AM, P. J. Alling
 wrote:
> On 12/5/2010 5:32 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:
>>
>> On 6 December 2010 09:16, Brian Walters  wrote:
>>
>>> So, any interest in including 'Open Galleries'? Feedback would be
>>> appreciated
>>
>> Yep, it's difficult to find a Pentax Photo Gellery Reject if you've
>> never sunmitted ;-)
>>
> I never submitted because I figured they'd all be rejected.  It takes a
> certain kind of mind to appreciate my lack of vision.
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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

[P. J. Alling]

On 12/5/2010 5:32 PM, Rob Studdert wrote:

On 6 December 2010 09:16, Brian Walters  wrote:


So, any interest in including 'Open Galleries'? Feedback would be
appreciated

Yep, it's difficult to find a Pentax Photo Gellery Reject if you've
never sunmitted ;-)

I never submitted because I figured they'd all be rejected.  It takes a 
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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

[Paul Sorenson]

JAlbum/Chameleon lets you create multiple album folders.  You can either 
put submissions in separate theme/non-theme folders on an index page - 
like this...


http://jalbum.net/browse/user/album/835317/

Or you can put the themed album on the main index page along with the 
icon for the non-themed sub-album.  Either way you need to go back to 
the main index page to navigate to the sub-albums.


You can also designate an image to show as a thumbnail for any given 
folder instead of the generic "folder" image.


-p

On 12/5/2010 12:49 PM, P. J. Alling wrote:
In the past IIRC the past  part of gallery was set aside for non 
themed submissions.


I don't think that Scott stopped accepting those submissions but I 
don't think that JAlbum supports a way to segregate a second sub-album 
on the same page.


I guess I have two questions, are we now not going to accept 
non-themed submissions or are we just going to continue on as before 
with the themed and non themed photos mixed together?  Not that I 
remember the last time a non-themed photo was submitted mind you, and 
I phrased that as one question didn't I.  Oh well...


On 12/4/2010 6:39 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

As you may be aware, Scott has decided to step down as PUGmeister and
I've agreed to try to fill his shoes.  May be a forlorn task, but we'll
see...

Just to clarify what the PUG is all about for those new to the list:

The PUG is this list's monthly themed photo gallery - it has nothing to
do with the 'Pentax Photo Gallery' run by Pentax USA.  Basically, list
members submit an image based on the monthly theme, the images are
compiled into a gallery and each month the gallery is uploaded for the
enjoyment of all.  The galleries are archived permanently and you can go
back as far as 1998 to enjoy the images submitted in the past.

The PUG is hosted on the Komkon server, facilitated by PDMLer Igor
Roshchin, for which we are extremely grateful.

There probably wont be too many obvious changes to the way the PUG
operates.  Igor has installed the scripting software for the Submission
Form on Komkon, so there will be a new location for that form but, like
Scott, I'll be compiling the galleries using JAlbum, so they will look
much the same as in the past.

I'll post further details and themes for 2011 in a few days.



Cheers

Brian

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

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2010/12/6 Daniel J. Matyola :
>
> Hey, I'm just trying to get everyone to submit [...]

just as I said...

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

[Peter Loveday]

I'd really like to see the limits increased a bit on the PUG.  256K? 720 
pixels?  Welcome to 1998 :)


- Peter

-Original Message- 
From: Brian Walters

Sent: Sunday, December 05, 2010 10:09 AM
To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
Subject: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

G'day all

As you may be aware, Scott has decided to step down as PUGmeister and
I've agreed to try to fill his shoes.  May be a forlorn task, but we'll
see...

Just to clarify what the PUG is all about for those new to the list:

The PUG is this list's monthly themed photo gallery - it has nothing to
do with the 'Pentax Photo Gallery' run by Pentax USA.  Basically, list
members submit an image based on the monthly theme, the images are
compiled into a gallery and each month the gallery is uploaded for the
enjoyment of all.  The galleries are archived permanently and you can go
back as far as 1998 to enjoy the images submitted in the past.

The PUG is hosted on the Komkon server, facilitated by PDMLer Igor
Roshchin, for which we are extremely grateful.

There probably wont be too many obvious changes to the way the PUG
operates.  Igor has installed the scripting software for the Submission
Form on Komkon, so there will be a new location for that form but, like
Scott, I'll be compiling the galleries using JAlbum, so they will look
much the same as in the past.

I'll post further details and themes for 2011 in a few days.



Cheers

Brian

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Hey, I'm just trying to get everyone to submit to the PUG!

Dan
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On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 6:45 PM, eckinator  wrote:
> 2010/12/5 Daniel J. Matyola :
>>
>> Well, if one has never submitted to PPG, then one has never had an
>> image accepted, which is pretty much the same as having them all
>> rejected, so, anything is eligible!
>
> wow... talk about incomplete deduction... sounds like military logic,
> Lt. Dan ]=P
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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

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2010/12/5 Daniel J. Matyola :
>
> Well, if one has never submitted to PPG, then one has never had an
> image accepted, which is pretty much the same as having them all
> rejected, so, anything is eligible!

wow... talk about incomplete deduction... sounds like military logic,
Lt. Dan ]=P

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

[Daniel J. Matyola]

Well, if one has never submitted to PPG, then one has never had an
image accepted, which is pretty much the same as having them all
rejected, so, anything is eligible!

Dan
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On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Rob Studdert  wrote:
> On 6 December 2010 09:16, Brian Walters  wrote:
>
>> So, any interest in including 'Open Galleries'? Feedback would be
>> appreciated
>
> Yep, it's difficult to find a Pentax Photo Gellery Reject if you've
> never sunmitted ;-)
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On 6 December 2010 09:16, Brian Walters  wrote:

> So, any interest in including 'Open Galleries'? Feedback would be
> appreciated

Yep, it's difficult to find a Pentax Photo Gellery Reject if you've
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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

[Brian Walters]

Just another thought

We could include an 'Open Gallery' as one of the monthly themes


Cheers

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On Mon, 06 Dec 2010 09:16 +1100, "Brian Walters"
 wrote:
> On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 13:49 -0500, "P. J. Alling"
>  wrote:
> > In the past IIRC the past  part of gallery was set aside for non themed 
> > submissions.
> > 
> > I don't think that Scott stopped accepting those submissions but I don't 
> > think that JAlbum supports a way to segregate a second sub-album on the 
> > same page.
> > 
> > I guess I have two questions, are we now not going to accept non-themed 
> > submissions or are we just going to continue on as before with the 
> > themed and non themed photos mixed together?  Not that I remember the 
> > last time a non-themed photo was submitted mind you, and I phrased that 
> > as one question didn't I.  Oh well...
> 
> 
> The 'Open Gallery' component of the PUG seems to have declined since
> about 2006.  I had assumed that this was because of the increased
> popularity of PESO/PAWs and that there were very few "open gallery"
> submissions.
> 
> There's no real reason why they couldn't be re-instituted if members
> want that feature.  I think JAlbum could be set up to do it using
> sub-folders as part of the gallery compilation process but, even if not,
> it wouldn't be difficult to separate the themed and non-themed sections
> by editing the index file manually.
> 
> So, any interest in including 'Open Galleries'? Feedback would be
> appreciated
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Brian
> 
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> 
> 
> 
> > 
> > On 12/4/2010 6:39 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
> > > G'day all
> > >
> > > As you may be aware, Scott has decided to step down as PUGmeister and
> > > I've agreed to try to fill his shoes.  May be a forlorn task, but we'll
> > > see...
> > >
> > > Just to clarify what the PUG is all about for those new to the list:
> > >
> > > The PUG is this list's monthly themed photo gallery - it has nothing to
> > > do with the 'Pentax Photo Gallery' run by Pentax USA.  Basically, list
> > > members submit an image based on the monthly theme, the images are
> > > compiled into a gallery and each month the gallery is uploaded for the
> > > enjoyment of all.  The galleries are archived permanently and you can go
> > > back as far as 1998 to enjoy the images submitted in the past.
> > >
> > > The PUG is hosted on the Komkon server, facilitated by PDMLer Igor
> > > Roshchin, for which we are extremely grateful.
> > >
> > > There probably wont be too many obvious changes to the way the PUG
> > > operates.  Igor has installed the scripting software for the Submission
> > > Form on Komkon, so there will be a new location for that form but, like
> > > Scott, I'll be compiling the galleries using JAlbum, so they will look
> > > much the same as in the past.
> > >
> > > I'll post further details and themes for 2011 in a few days.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > > ++
> > > Brian Walters
> > > Western Sydney Australia
> > > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> > >
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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

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On Sun, 05 Dec 2010 13:49 -0500, "P. J. Alling"
 wrote:
> In the past IIRC the past  part of gallery was set aside for non themed 
> submissions.
> 
> I don't think that Scott stopped accepting those submissions but I don't 
> think that JAlbum supports a way to segregate a second sub-album on the 
> same page.
> 
> I guess I have two questions, are we now not going to accept non-themed 
> submissions or are we just going to continue on as before with the 
> themed and non themed photos mixed together?  Not that I remember the 
> last time a non-themed photo was submitted mind you, and I phrased that 
> as one question didn't I.  Oh well...


The 'Open Gallery' component of the PUG seems to have declined since
about 2006.  I had assumed that this was because of the increased
popularity of PESO/PAWs and that there were very few "open gallery"
submissions.

There's no real reason why they couldn't be re-instituted if members
want that feature.  I think JAlbum could be set up to do it using
sub-folders as part of the gallery compilation process but, even if not,
it wouldn't be difficult to separate the themed and non-themed sections
by editing the index file manually.

So, any interest in including 'Open Galleries'? Feedback would be
appreciated



Cheers

Brian

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> 
> On 12/4/2010 6:39 PM, Brian Walters wrote:
> > G'day all
> >
> > As you may be aware, Scott has decided to step down as PUGmeister and
> > I've agreed to try to fill his shoes.  May be a forlorn task, but we'll
> > see...
> >
> > Just to clarify what the PUG is all about for those new to the list:
> >
> > The PUG is this list's monthly themed photo gallery - it has nothing to
> > do with the 'Pentax Photo Gallery' run by Pentax USA.  Basically, list
> > members submit an image based on the monthly theme, the images are
> > compiled into a gallery and each month the gallery is uploaded for the
> > enjoyment of all.  The galleries are archived permanently and you can go
> > back as far as 1998 to enjoy the images submitted in the past.
> >
> > The PUG is hosted on the Komkon server, facilitated by PDMLer Igor
> > Roshchin, for which we are extremely grateful.
> >
> > There probably wont be too many obvious changes to the way the PUG
> > operates.  Igor has installed the scripting software for the Submission
> > Form on Komkon, so there will be a new location for that form but, like
> > Scott, I'll be compiling the galleries using JAlbum, so they will look
> > much the same as in the past.
> >
> > I'll post further details and themes for 2011 in a few days.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > ++
> > Brian Walters
> > Western Sydney Australia
> > http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> >
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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

[eckinator]

2010/12/5 Igor Roshchin :
>
>> >> p.s. So... what month are we having the cat photos?
>> >>
>> > I don't remember "catastrophy", "catapults" or "catalogs" suggested
>> > as themes for the next year..
>>
>> that is because this year's "cat" theme will be concatenated RAW files
>> - PDML takes ASCII art to the next level and beyond. separate
>> categories for PEF and DNG as well as lower and upper case ]=)
>
> man cat(1)
>
> It will be called steganocatography.
>
> At that point the PUssycatGallery will be watched by the
> Cat Investigation Agency and Feline Bureau of Investigation.

that will give a whole new meaning to the MP spec of a sensor...

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

[Ken Waller]

My thanks in advance for taking this over Brian.

Kenneth Waller
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- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Walters" 

Subject: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011



G'day all

As you may be aware, Scott has decided to step down as PUGmeister and
I've agreed to try to fill his shoes.  May be a forlorn task, but we'll
see...

Just to clarify what the PUG is all about for those new to the list:

The PUG is this list's monthly themed photo gallery - it has nothing to
do with the 'Pentax Photo Gallery' run by Pentax USA.  Basically, list
members submit an image based on the monthly theme, the images are
compiled into a gallery and each month the gallery is uploaded for the
enjoyment of all.  The galleries are archived permanently and you can go
back as far as 1998 to enjoy the images submitted in the past.  


The PUG is hosted on the Komkon server, facilitated by PDMLer Igor
Roshchin, for which we are extremely grateful.

There probably wont be too many obvious changes to the way the PUG
operates.  Igor has installed the scripting software for the Submission
Form on Komkon, so there will be a new location for that form but, like
Scott, I'll be compiling the galleries using JAlbum, so they will look
much the same as in the past.

I'll post further details and themes for 2011 in a few days.



Cheers

Brian

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

[P. J. Alling]

In the past IIRC the past  part of gallery was set aside for non themed 
submissions.


I don't think that Scott stopped accepting those submissions but I don't 
think that JAlbum supports a way to segregate a second sub-album on the 
same page.


I guess I have two questions, are we now not going to accept non-themed 
submissions or are we just going to continue on as before with the 
themed and non themed photos mixed together?  Not that I remember the 
last time a non-themed photo was submitted mind you, and I phrased that 
as one question didn't I.  Oh well...


On 12/4/2010 6:39 PM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

As you may be aware, Scott has decided to step down as PUGmeister and
I've agreed to try to fill his shoes.  May be a forlorn task, but we'll
see...

Just to clarify what the PUG is all about for those new to the list:

The PUG is this list's monthly themed photo gallery - it has nothing to
do with the 'Pentax Photo Gallery' run by Pentax USA.  Basically, list
members submit an image based on the monthly theme, the images are
compiled into a gallery and each month the gallery is uploaded for the
enjoyment of all.  The galleries are archived permanently and you can go
back as far as 1998 to enjoy the images submitted in the past.

The PUG is hosted on the Komkon server, facilitated by PDMLer Igor
Roshchin, for which we are extremely grateful.

There probably wont be too many obvious changes to the way the PUG
operates.  Igor has installed the scripting software for the Submission
Form on Komkon, so there will be a new location for that form but, like
Scott, I'll be compiling the galleries using JAlbum, so they will look
much the same as in the past.

I'll post further details and themes for 2011 in a few days.



Cheers

Brian

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

[Igor Roshchin]

Sun Dec 5 07:38:47 CST 2010
eckinator wrote:

> 2010/12/5 Igor Roshchin :
> >
> >>
> >> p.s. So... what month are we having the cat photos?
> >>
> > I don't remember "catastrophy", "catapults" or "catalogs" suggested
> > as themes for the next year..
> 
> that is because this year's "cat" theme will be concatenated RAW files
> - PDML takes ASCII art to the next level and beyond. separate
> categories for PEF and DNG as well as lower and upper case ]=)

man cat(1)

It will be called steganocatography.

At that point the PUssycatGallery will be watched by the
Cat Investigation Agency and Feline Bureau of Investigation.

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

[eckinator]

2010/12/5 Igor Roshchin :
>
>>
>> p.s. So... what month are we having the cat photos?
>>
> I don't remember "catastrophy", "catapults" or "catalogs" suggested
> as themes for the next year..

that is because this year's "cat" theme will be concatenated RAW files
- PDML takes ASCII art to the next level and beyond. separate
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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

[David J Brooks]

Thanks for stepping up and carrying the PUG on your back.

Dave

On Sat, Dec 4, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Brian Walters  wrote:
> G'day all
>
> As you may be aware, Scott has decided to step down as PUGmeister and
> I've agreed to try to fill his shoes.  May be a forlorn task, but we'll
> see...
>
> Just to clarify what the PUG is all about for those new to the list:
>
> The PUG is this list's monthly themed photo gallery - it has nothing to
> do with the 'Pentax Photo Gallery' run by Pentax USA.  Basically, list
> members submit an image based on the monthly theme, the images are
> compiled into a gallery and each month the gallery is uploaded for the
> enjoyment of all.  The galleries are archived permanently and you can go
> back as far as 1998 to enjoy the images submitted in the past.
>
> The PUG is hosted on the Komkon server, facilitated by PDMLer Igor
> Roshchin, for which we are extremely grateful.
>
> There probably wont be too many obvious changes to the way the PUG
> operates.  Igor has installed the scripting software for the Submission
> Form on Komkon, so there will be a new location for that form but, like
> Scott, I'll be compiling the galleries using JAlbum, so they will look
> much the same as in the past.
>
> I'll post further details and themes for 2011 in a few days.
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> Brian
>
> ++
> Brian Walters
> Western Sydney Australia
> http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
>
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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

[Boris Liberman]

On 12/5/2010 1:39 AM, Brian Walters wrote:

G'day all

As you may be aware, Scott has decided to step down as PUGmeister and
I've agreed to try to fill his shoes.  May be a forlorn task, but we'll
see...


Let me point out that I have a hunch, just a hunch, Brian that you'll do 
great.


I hope to be able to participate in the project in more orderly manner.

Boris

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

[Christine Aguila]

You'll be great, Brian.  Looking forward to the 2011 PUG.  And thanks for 
all your hard work, Scott.  Very much appreciated.  Cheers, Christine




- Original Message - 
From: "Brian Walters" 

To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
Sent: Saturday, December 04, 2010 5:39 PM
Subject: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011



G'day all

As you may be aware, Scott has decided to step down as PUGmeister and
I've agreed to try to fill his shoes.  May be a forlorn task, but we'll
see...

Just to clarify what the PUG is all about for those new to the list:

The PUG is this list's monthly themed photo gallery - it has nothing to
do with the 'Pentax Photo Gallery' run by Pentax USA.  Basically, list
members submit an image based on the monthly theme, the images are
compiled into a gallery and each month the gallery is uploaded for the
enjoyment of all.  The galleries are archived permanently and you can go
back as far as 1998 to enjoy the images submitted in the past.

The PUG is hosted on the Komkon server, facilitated by PDMLer Igor
Roshchin, for which we are extremely grateful.

There probably wont be too many obvious changes to the way the PUG
operates.  Igor has installed the scripting software for the Submission
Form on Komkon, so there will be a new location for that form but, like
Scott, I'll be compiling the galleries using JAlbum, so they will look
much the same as in the past.

I'll post further details and themes for 2011 in a few days.



Cheers

Brian

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

[Bran Everseeking]

On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 18:53:16 -0500
Ann Sanfedele  wrote:

> ann the traditionalist
> 
> p.s. So... what month are we having the cat photos?

Every month. just need to stretch on the themes a bit.

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

[Ann Sanfedele]

Brian Walters wrote:


On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 18:53 -0500, "Ann Sanfedele" 
wrote:
 


Congrats and condolences :-)

seriously, _ I'm sure you'll do a terrific job  - though why anyone 
would want to do it is way beyond me... I'm awfully glad
someone did!  


ann the traditionalist

p.s. So... what month are we having the cat photos?

   





I think cat photos can be interpreted to fit any theme


Cheers

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lol - well yes that is true

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

[Igor Roshchin]

On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 18:53 -0500, "Ann Sanfedele" 
wrote:
> 
> ann the traditionalist
> 
> p.s. So... what month are we having the cat photos?
> 

I don't remember "catastrophy", "catapults" or "catalogs" suggested
as themes for the next year..

:-)

Igor


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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

[Brian Walters]

On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 18:53 -0500, "Ann Sanfedele" 
wrote:
> Congrats and condolences :-)
> 
> seriously, _ I'm sure you'll do a terrific job  - though why anyone 
> would want to do it is way beyond me... I'm awfully glad
> someone did!  
> 
> ann the traditionalist
> 
> p.s. So... what month are we having the cat photos?
> 



I think cat photos can be interpreted to fit any theme


Cheers

Brian

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> 
> Brian Walters wrote:
> 
> >G'day all
> >
> >As you may be aware, Scott has decided to step down as PUGmeister and
> >I've agreed to try to fill his shoes.  May be a forlorn task, but we'll
> >see...
> >
> >Just to clarify what the PUG is all about for those new to the list:
> >
> >The PUG is this list's monthly themed photo gallery - it has nothing to
> >do with the 'Pentax Photo Gallery' run by Pentax USA.  Basically, list
> >members submit an image based on the monthly theme, the images are
> >compiled into a gallery and each month the gallery is uploaded for the
> >enjoyment of all.  The galleries are archived permanently and you can go
> >back as far as 1998 to enjoy the images submitted in the past.  
> >
> >The PUG is hosted on the Komkon server, facilitated by PDMLer Igor
> >Roshchin, for which we are extremely grateful.
> >
> >There probably wont be too many obvious changes to the way the PUG
> >operates.  Igor has installed the scripting software for the Submission
> >Form on Komkon, so there will be a new location for that form but, like
> >Scott, I'll be compiling the galleries using JAlbum, so they will look
> >much the same as in the past.
> >
> >I'll post further details and themes for 2011 in a few days.
> >
> >
> >
> >Cheers
> >
> >Brian
> >
> >++
> >Brian Walters
> >Western Sydney Australia
> >http://lyons-ryan.org/southernlight/
> >
> >  
> >
> 
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Re: Pentax Users Gallery (the PUG) - Changes for 2011

[Ann Sanfedele]

Congrats and condolences :-)

seriously, _ I'm sure you'll do a terrific job  - though why anyone 
would want to do it is way beyond me... I'm awfully glad
someone did!  


ann the traditionalist

p.s. So... what month are we having the cat photos?



Brian Walters wrote:


G'day all

As you may be aware, Scott has decided to step down as PUGmeister and
I've agreed to try to fill his shoes.  May be a forlorn task, but we'll
see...

Just to clarify what the PUG is all about for those new to the list:

The PUG is this list's monthly themed photo gallery - it has nothing to
do with the 'Pentax Photo Gallery' run by Pentax USA.  Basically, list
members submit an image based on the monthly theme, the images are
compiled into a gallery and each month the gallery is uploaded for the
enjoyment of all.  The galleries are archived permanently and you can go
back as far as 1998 to enjoy the images submitted in the past.  


The PUG is hosted on the Komkon server, facilitated by PDMLer Igor
Roshchin, for which we are extremely grateful.

There probably wont be too many obvious changes to the way the PUG
operates.  Igor has installed the scripting software for the Submission
Form on Komkon, so there will be a new location for that form but, like
Scott, I'll be compiling the galleries using JAlbum, so they will look
much the same as in the past.

I'll post further details and themes for 2011 in a few days.



Cheers

Brian

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

[P. J. Alling]

John Sessoms wrote:

From: Matthew Miller

On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 08:17:27PM -0400, Graydon wrote:

> > Here they are, what do you think ? Thanks Joe
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296930
> Really splendid photo but it's violent (at least implicatively) so 
the

> PUG won't generally take it.


Took me a while to figure out where the implicit violence was in the 
banjo
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From: Matthew Miller

On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 08:17:27PM -0400, Graydon wrote:

> > Here they are, what do you think ? Thanks Joe
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296930

> Really splendid photo but it's violent (at least implicatively) so the
> PUG won't generally take it.


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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

[Jack Davis]

What Mark said. I continuously experience that same helpless "if only" feeling 
of wanting to pass along a clue that might even have a positive application 
throughout their photo life.
Voting, for me, is never boring because however tender the experience, I can 
always relate.

Jack 

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> From: Mark Roberts 
> Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery
> To: "Pentax-Discuss Mail List" 
> Date: Saturday, June 6, 2009, 2:58 PM
> Ken Waller wrote:
> 
> >I try to make a daily visit to the Gallery & rate
> images & I have to say 
> >that I find myself rejecting most of what is presented.
> If I go thru 20 
> >images, on a good night there might be 4 or 5 that I
> will give the thumbs up 
> >to.
> 
> I find my acceptance rate varies between 5% and 10%.
> But I do find it's great visual exercise to go through
> judging these
> photos and thinking about what should be done better.
> 
> I often wish I could send the photographer a message like,
> "You're
> *so* close to something really good! Just crop... or use a
> curves
> adjustment... or go back in better light.." etc. Of course,
> it's
> totally impractical for them to accept comments - I can
> just imagine
> the kind of flame wars that would erupt. But I often feel
> the
> overpowering desire to offer encouragement for a promising
> effort
> rather than just clicking "no".
> 
> And I think everyone should spend 5 minutes browsing
> through the
> recently accepted images before uploading their own. That's
> a dose of
> reality!
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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

[Ken Waller]

Kenneth Waller
http://www.tinyurl.com/272u2f

- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Roberts" 


Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery



Ken Waller wrote:


I try to make a daily visit to the Gallery & rate images & I have to say
that I find myself rejecting most of what is presented. If I go thru 20
images, on a good night there might be 4 or 5 that I will give the thumbs 
up

to.


I find my acceptance rate varies between 5% and 10%.
But I do find it's great visual exercise to go through judging these
photos and thinking about what should be done better.


Same here.



I often wish I could send the photographer a message like, "You're
*so* close to something really good! Just crop... or use a curves
adjustment... or go back in better light.." etc.


Again, same here.


Of course, it's
totally impractical for them to accept comments - I can just imagine
the kind of flame wars that would erupt. But I often feel the
overpowering desire to offer encouragement for a promising effort
rather than just clicking "no".

And I think everyone should spend 5 minutes browsing through the
recently accepted images before uploading their own. That's a dose of
reality!


Agreed!



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Ken Waller wrote:

>I try to make a daily visit to the Gallery & rate images & I have to say 
>that I find myself rejecting most of what is presented. If I go thru 20 
>images, on a good night there might be 4 or 5 that I will give the thumbs up 
>to.

I find my acceptance rate varies between 5% and 10%.
But I do find it's great visual exercise to go through judging these
photos and thinking about what should be done better.

I often wish I could send the photographer a message like, "You're
*so* close to something really good! Just crop... or use a curves
adjustment... or go back in better light.." etc. Of course, it's
totally impractical for them to accept comments - I can just imagine
the kind of flame wars that would erupt. But I often feel the
overpowering desire to offer encouragement for a promising effort
rather than just clicking "no".

And I think everyone should spend 5 minutes browsing through the
recently accepted images before uploading their own. That's a dose of
reality!


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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

[Ken Waller]

I try to make a daily visit to the Gallery & rate images & I have to say 
that I find myself rejecting most of what is presented. If I go thru 20 
images, on a good night there might be 4 or 5 that I will give the thumbs up 
to.


A lot of same ole same ole & family portraits, and Cats !

Kenneth Waller
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From: "Igor Roshchin" 

Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery




I agree with John about posting to the Pentax Photo Gallery
(note that it is not a "Pentax USER Gallery" aka PUG!)

I might be overly cynical, - but with the huge number of shots in the
gallery, the likelyhood of some random visitor seeing your shot is
rather small (unless your photos are the "featured" ones, - like those
of Paul S.). Only those who went via direct link to the page with
your shots will make it there. But then, - it is not much different
from your own website gallery.
Hence, the main motivation to get your shots accepted is to get
the warm fuzzy feeling from that fact itself.

To rephrase an old joke:
What is common between posting your pictures to Pentax Photo Gallery and
peeing dark pants?
Nobody notices it but gives a warm feeling.

(I don't mean to offend the feelings of anybody who has their photos
in the gallery, I'm just being facetious.)

I would also agree with what John said about the first 2 photos.
As for the 3rd photo, on the initial viewing, I missed that sign
on the photo.  Indeed, it makes the situation rather ironical.

Cheers,

Igor

272yb at comcast.net 272yb at comcast.net wrote:

John, OUCH, but thank you, I guess part of it is my fault because I 
photographed the 11x14 prints outside with a K20D rather than scanning 
the negs.I was in a hurry..As far as the fireman in the burning car 
photo, what was more important to me was the intense flames and the no 
parking fire zone sign. That is what made the photo and that is why it 
was published in a few newspapers. Without the sign in the picture, it is 
just another car fire photo. The person who owned the car went into the 
movie house and left the car where it should not have been parked..Joe



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On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 11:35:55PM +, 272yb at comcast.net wrote:

I just had three more not accepted. I give up.
Here they are, what do you think ? Thanks Joe


I think it's pretty much pointless to submit to the gallery
now - your shots get rejected by people who obviously have
a very different opinion of what makes a good image.

That said:


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296930


On my (admittedly uncalibrated) monitor, the wall to the
right of the banjo is a distracting burned-out area, as
is part of the page of the music.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296946


Here I'd be happier to see the entire chair in the
reflection, rather than having the top (?bottom?) cut off.


http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296949


The main figure - the firefighter - is almost lost against
the dark part of the background; a different angle would
be better, silhouetting the figure against the blaze.



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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

[Igor Roshchin]

I agree with John about posting to the Pentax Photo Gallery
(note that it is not a "Pentax USER Gallery" aka PUG!)

I might be overly cynical, - but with the huge number of shots in the
gallery, the likelyhood of some random visitor seeing your shot is
rather small (unless your photos are the "featured" ones, - like those
of Paul S.). Only those who went via direct link to the page with
your shots will make it there. But then, - it is not much different
from your own website gallery.
Hence, the main motivation to get your shots accepted is to get
the warm fuzzy feeling from that fact itself.

To rephrase an old joke:
What is common between posting your pictures to Pentax Photo Gallery and
peeing dark pants?
Nobody notices it but gives a warm feeling.

(I don't mean to offend the feelings of anybody who has their photos 
in the gallery, I'm just being facetious.)

I would also agree with what John said about the first 2 photos.
As for the 3rd photo, on the initial viewing, I missed that sign 
on the photo.  Indeed, it makes the situation rather ironical.

Cheers,

Igor

272yb at comcast.net 272yb at comcast.net wrote:

> John, OUCH, but thank you, I guess part of it is my fault because I 
> photographed the 11x14 prints outside with a K20D rather than scanning the 
> negs.I was in a hurry..As far as the fireman in the burning car photo, what 
> was more important to me was the intense flames and the no parking fire zone 
> sign. That is what made the photo and that is why it was published in a few 
> newspapers. Without the sign in the picture, it is just another car fire 
> photo. The person who owned the car went into the movie house and left the 
> car where it should not have been parked..Joe


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On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 11:35:55PM +, 272yb at comcast.net wrote:
> I just had three more not accepted. I give up.
> Here they are, what do you think ? Thanks Joe

I think it's pretty much pointless to submit to the gallery
now - your shots get rejected by people who obviously have
a very different opinion of what makes a good image.

That said:

> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296930

On my (admittedly uncalibrated) monitor, the wall to the
right of the banjo is a distracting burned-out area, as
is part of the page of the music.

> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296946

Here I'd be happier to see the entire chair in the
reflection, rather than having the top (?bottom?) cut off.

> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296949

The main figure - the firefighter - is almost lost against
the dark part of the background; a different angle would
be better, silhouetting the figure against the blaze.


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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

[272yb]

I am glad I did not call it that !!

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On 6/6/09, William Robb  wrote:
>
>  - Original Message - From: "Scott Loveless"
>  Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery
>
> >
> > Can we please not refer to the Pentax Photo Gallery as the PUG?  While
> > most of us know the difference, there may be a newcomer who doesn't.
> >
> >
>
>  Absolutely
>  Refering to that upstart newbie gallery as the PUG is totally unacceptable.

Amen, Brother Bill.

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

[Scott Loveless]

On 6/6/09, William Robb  wrote:
>
>  - Original Message - From: "Scott Loveless"
>  Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery
>
> >
> > Can we please not refer to the Pentax Photo Gallery as the PUG?  While
> > most of us know the difference, there may be a newcomer who doesn't.
> >
> >
>
>  Absolutely
>  Refering to that upstart newbie gallery as the PUG is totally unacceptable.

Amen, Brother Bill.

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

[William Robb]

- Original Message - 
From: "Scott Loveless"

Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery





Can we please not refer to the Pentax Photo Gallery as the PUG?  While
most of us know the difference, there may be a newcomer who doesn't.



Absolutely
Refering to that upstart newbie gallery as the PUG is totally unacceptable.

William Robb

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

[Scott Loveless]

On 6/5/09, Graydon  wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 11:35:55PM +, 27...@comcast.net scripsit:
>
> > I just had three more not accepted. I give up.
>  > Here they are, what do you think ? Thanks Joe
>  >
>  > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296930
>
>
> Really splendid photo but it's violent (at least implicatively) so the
>  PUG won't generally take it.

Can we please not refer to the Pentax Photo Gallery as the PUG?  While
most of us know the difference, there may be a newcomer who doesn't.

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

[Graydon]

On Sat, Jun 06, 2009 at 01:19:01AM -0400, Matthew Miller scripsit:
> On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 08:17:27PM -0400, Graydon wrote:
> > > Here they are, what do you think ? Thanks Joe
> > > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296930
> > Really splendid photo but it's violent (at least implicatively) so the
> > PUG won't generally take it.
> 
> Took me a while to figure out where the implicit violence was in the banjo
> scene. :)

It's a _banjo_.  Of course there's going to be violence. :)

And yah, responded to those in browser order, not listed order, so that
response goes with the burning car.

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

[Bong Manayon]

These are great--I especially like Reflection.

I had a string of accepted photos the previous month then an equal
number of rejected photos this month; the ones accepted were color
touristy type photos while the recent rejects had a collection of
black and whites (which included the Stripes photo which I PESOd
earlier).

Sigh...

On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 7:35 AM, <27...@comcast.net> wrote:
> I just had three more not accepted. I give up.
> Here they are, what do you think ? Thanks Joe
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296930
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296946
>
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296949
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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

[Matthew Miller]

On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 08:17:27PM -0400, Graydon wrote:
> > Here they are, what do you think ? Thanks Joe
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296930
> Really splendid photo but it's violent (at least implicatively) so the
> PUG won't generally take it.

Took me a while to figure out where the implicit violence was in the banjo
scene. :)


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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

[Graydon]

On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 08:17:27PM -0400, Graydon scripsit:
> On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 11:35:55PM +, 27...@comcast.net scripsit:
> > I just had three more not accepted. I give up.
> > Here they are, what do you think ? Thanks Joe
> > 
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296930
> 
> Really splendid photo but it's violent (at least implicatively) so the
> PUG won't generally take it.
> 
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296946
> 
> Crop is too tight; the top of the chair goes away in the reflection and
> the image loses its unities.
> 
> > http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296949
> 
> Same, I think, but with the page corner.  It's also, however well
> executed, kinda bland.  And a banjo.

And of firefighter and the banjo are in reverse order because I didn't
check the IDs; sorry!

-- Graydon

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

[272yb]

John, OUCH, but thank you, I guess part of it is my fault because I 
photographed the 11x14 prints outside with a K20D rather than scanning the 
negs.I was in a hurry..As far as the fireman in the burning car photo, what was 
more important to me was the intense flames and the no parking fire zone sign. 
That is what made the photo and that is why it was published in a few 
newspapers. Without the sign in the picture, it is just another car fire photo. 
The person who owned the car went into the movie house and left the car where 
it should not have been parked..Joe


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On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 11:35:55PM +, 27...@comcast.net wrote:
> I just had three more not accepted. I give up.
> Here they are, what do you think ? Thanks Joe

I think it's pretty much pointless to submit to the gallery
now - your shots get rejected by people who obviously have
a very different opinion of what makes a good image.

That said:

> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296930

On my (admittedly uncalibrated) monitor, the wall to the
right of the banjo is a distracting burned-out area, as
is part of the page of the music.

> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296946

Here I'd be happier to see the entire chair in the
reflection, rather than having the top (?bottom?) cut off.

> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296949

The main figure - the firefighter - is almost lost against
the dark part of the background; a different angle would
be better, silhouetting the figure against the blaze.




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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

[Graydon]

On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 11:35:55PM +, 27...@comcast.net scripsit:
> I just had three more not accepted. I give up.
> Here they are, what do you think ? Thanks Joe
> 
> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296930

Really splendid photo but it's violent (at least implicatively) so the
PUG won't generally take it.

> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296946

Crop is too tight; the top of the chair goes away in the reflection and
the image loses its unities.

> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296949

Same, I think, but with the page corner.  It's also, however well
executed, kinda bland.  And a banjo.

-- Graydon

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

[John Francis]

On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 11:35:55PM +, 27...@comcast.net wrote:
> I just had three more not accepted. I give up.
> Here they are, what do you think ? Thanks Joe

I think it's pretty much pointless to submit to the gallery
now - your shots get rejected by people who obviously have
a very different opinion of what makes a good image.

That said:

> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296930

On my (admittedly uncalibrated) monitor, the wall to the
right of the banjo is a distracting burned-out area, as
is part of the page of the music.

> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296946

Here I'd be happier to see the entire chair in the
reflection, rather than having the top (?bottom?) cut off.

> http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=9296949

The main figure - the firefighter - is almost lost against
the dark part of the background; a different angle would
be better, silhouetting the figure against the blaze.




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Re: RE railroads - was Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional

[Eactivist]

>Its mine too.
What say all those who were born on Sept 28 take out a 135 and shoot a 
train/RR shot on
said day and post there results.Yes no???

>Dave

Weird. My birthday is the 29th. Unfortunately there are few trains around 
here.

Marnie aka Doe :-) Which is besides the point because I don't have a 135, 
although I do have a zoom in that range.

Re: RE railroads - was Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme:

[brooksdj]

> Dave wrote:
> 
> > > you go "training", you use nothing but a 135mm and take nothing but
> > > details... How about Sunday 28 Sept? (My birthday by the way...)
> > 
> > Its mine too.
> > What say all those who were born on Sept 28 take out a 135 and shoot a
> > train/RR shot on said day and post there results.Yes no???
> 
> Am I allowed to join in?  Mine's the 27th.

You can use a 105,Dave.lol

Dave
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> - Dave
> 
> http://www.digistar.com/~dmann/
> 
> 

Re: RE railroads - was Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme:

[David Mann]

Dave wrote:

> > you go "training", you use nothing but a 135mm and take nothing but
> > details... How about Sunday 28 Sept? (My birthday by the way...)
> 
> Its mine too.
> What say all those who were born on Sept 28 take out a 135 and shoot a
> train/RR shot on said day and post there results.Yes no???

Am I allowed to join in?  Mine's the 27th.

Cheers,

- Dave

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Re: RE railroads - was Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional

[brooksdj]

Stan scribed: I would suggest as an exercise that 
the next 
time
> you go "training", you use nothing but a 135mm and take nothing but
> details... How about Sunday 28 Sept? (My birthday by the way...)
> 
> on 9/12/03 10:53 AM, Paul Delcour at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Its mine too.
What say all those who were born on Sept 28 take out a 135 and shoot a train/RR shot on
said day and post there results.Yes no???

Dave

Re: RE railroads - was Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional

[Anders Hultman]

Stan Halpin:

Hi Anders! I think I would half agree with Paul about your train photos. He
says too touristic. For me that would mean that you are using cliche
composition. I think the issue is rather that you are being a recorder of
events rather than an artist.
I haven't thought so much about my goal with these pictures, but when 
you say it, it may be that my aim is to record and document rather 
than being overly artistic. Or touristic, for that matter.

In the case of the pictures from the abandoned railroad cars and 
tracks in the industrial park, the aim definitely was to document how 
the site once looked like; it is now torn down.

For the excursion pictures, the aim is not that clear cut, but since 
these excursions are more or less one-off events, one of the most 
important reasons for taking pictures at all is to "save" what I 
experience during the ride. And it's quite hard to both photographing 
artistically and participarting in the excursion at the same time. I 
have thought of going to some railway on any ordinary day and then 
I'd have more room to concentrate on the images.

"Touristic" to me means the classic "this is me in front of X, this 
is me in front of Y" pictures, and those I want to avoid :-)

I would suggest as an exercise that the next time
you go "training", you use nothing but a 135mm and take nothing but
details... How about Sunday 28 Sept? (My birthday by the way...)
Now, that would really be a challenge! I happen to have a 135 prime, 
but I very seldom use that, or the 135 position on my 28-200 zoom for 
that matter. I tend to use 28-50-200 most of the time. Maybe I should 
do some dedicated 135 mm exercises, just to get a feel for it.

anders
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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

[Eactivist]

>I think such a loosely organized critique circle might be fun to start up 
again
though.  Anyone interested?

>cheers,
frank

Sure. But one little hitch. I organize a critique sort of board in another 
realm, another genre -- one that gives out assignments. And believe me the 
little hitch isn't that little, getting people to follow through. I keep telling 
people I am not their Mom and hate nagging, but push come to shove I just about 
always have to do follow-up letters nagging them to complete their reviews. 
(Well, 90-99% of the time, some just do it.) (We are talking reviews of hobbyist 
computer games here, BTW.)

Maybe just encouraging people to do some comments is better. Like, say, you 
do some comments, I do some, others do some, and just put at the end of our 
posts a general call for more comments. Hey, I did some, you do some too!

I find just picking out 5-8-10 is best. Hard to do them all.

And sometimes I hesitate because I am not an experienced photographer and my 
comments tend to be more toward color balance and composition, and sort of 
arty, but no technical stuff. And probably uninformed.

But I figure people like feedback, even if brief or not what they 
particularly wanted to hear about their stuff.

I have noticed, since I've been on the list, that people usually, actually 
get more comments when they post a URL to their latest stuff than when they 
submit things to the PUG. Comments on submissions to the PUG are hit and miss. 
Maybe 30 people submitted, but only 8-10 got comments ;-). But posting URLs, just 
about everyone gets a comment or two.

Anyway, if you want to organize something feel free, frank, but I recommend 
not volunteering for something that may become more of a headache than you 
think.

Maybe just a general call for more PUG comments at the end of one's post of 
comments would be best.

Marnie aka Doe ;-)

Re: Pentax Users Gallery

[frank theriault]

Hi,

Well, some months I critique my faves, once in a while I do them all - it depends on my
time and inclination.  I don't think I've done it in a few months, mostly because my
monitor only does b&w, I'm too cheap to buy a new one, and I feel uncomfortable
commenting on colour pics if I can't see the colours! 

A few years ago, Chris Brogden, late of this list, organized a little critque group.
Each month, all those who were part of the group were "assigned" a number of photos,
and critiqued them on-list.  It went on for maybe 6 months, and kind of devolved.
People didn't "complete their assignments", and I think it just became too much for
Chris.  All photos were open to criticism unless a specific "no comments please" was on
the photo.

It was fun, but I have to admit, it was hard to comment of photos that I really didn't
like.  I'd always try to find something positive to say to temper my criticism, but
that's not always easy.

I think such a loosely organized critique circle might be fun to start up again
though.  Anyone interested?

cheers,
frank

Boris Liberman wrote:

> Hi!
>
> Just by the way, getting a critique on one photographs should help
> them to extract more from their equipment and learn/advance a
> technique they are using.
>
> So, at least by the above reason we might need to increase PUG
> critique volume .
>

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Re: Pentax Users Gallery

[Ann Sanfedele]

Lon Williamson wrote:

> 
>
> But the PUG shots let us see a different side of each other:
> The camera-eye side.  And that is very nifty.  I agree with
> AnnaSan that PUG comments should be a bigger part of the PDML.

OOOPS!  Yikes!
Nope not moi, I didn't say that
I quoted Dan who said .

> >>Actually, there is very little comment on the PUG sumissions any more,
> >>compared to what occured some time ago.  I think that more comments from more
> >>PDMLers would be beneficial to all concerned..

THen I, annsan, replied:

> > We don't really know there are not a lot of comments -- remember people can
> > comment directly to the photographers individually.  I think, on the whole, that
> > is  a much better idea.
> >
> > annsan
> >

I am and was more  in favor of keeping _critiques_ off-list except for the
concept of faves or that tech stuff that sometimes in interesting.   I think the idea
of mention favorites and why the speak to you is fine, but correct and critique in
private.

What I Had gone on about recently was merely suggesting that no oneshould submit
a photo to the PUG that they are not pleased with themselves..

PDML is fine for showing stuff to each other one is not happy with and asking for
help,
but keep that separate from our gallery.

Ugh - now I'm getting into this and don't have much time to elaborate

annsan (who likes to stay in lower case :)  )

Re: Pentax Users Gallery

[Boris Liberman]

Hi!

Just by the way, getting a critique on one photographs should help
them to extract more from their equipment and learn/advance a
technique they are using.

So, at least by the above reason we might need to increase PUG
critique volume .

Boris

===8<==Original message text===
LW> I've gotten into commenting on the PUG here on PDML in the
LW> last few months.  Let's face it, the _vast_ majority of PDML
LW> posts are technoweenie posts, and I'm as guilty as anyone.

LW> But the PUG shots let us see a different side of each other:
LW> The camera-eye side.  And that is very nifty.  I agree with
LW> AnnaSan that PUG comments should be a bigger part of the PDML.

LW> Ann Sanfedele wrote:
>> "Daniel J. Matyola" wrote:
>>>
>>>Actually, there is very little comment on the PUG sumissions any more,
>>>compared to what occured some time ago.  I think that more comments from more
>>>PDMLers would be beneficial to all concerned, even if the comments got a bit
>>>"nasty" at times.  We're all adults, capable of submitting photos to a
>>>"professional" themed gallery, and we can take criticism that is base on
>>>photographic ideas and values.
>> 
>> 
>> We don't really know there are not a lot of comments -- remember people can
>> comment directly to the photographers individually.  I think, on the whole, that
>> is
>> a much better idea.
>> 
>> annsan
>> 
>> 


===8<===End of original message text===

Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional

[Anders Hultman]

Paul Delcour:

I'd love to have railroad as a theme being a mad train lover myself, though,
whenever I take pictures of trains myself I am never happy with the result.
Somnehow I do not seem to have the feel for how to put them in the frame
properly. O well, I'll just enjoy the real thing.
What makes you unhappy with the results?

I find that railroads are a bit tricky to take pictures of, since 
both cars and tracks are so very, very big. You can't back off to get 
a bigger picture since then you'll get unwanted objects in the 
foreground, often hiding the main thing, and if you use wide angle 
the perspective gets distorded and straight lines get inclined in a 
bad way.

Here are some of my railroad pictures, feel free to comment. (The 
captions are in Swedish, but they mostly tell the names of places, 
and you'll get the picture anyway :-)

Steam engine excursion on a Stockholm commuter railway.
  http://anders.hultman.nu/album/al/alok-saltsj-1999
Steam engine excursion on another Stockholm commuter railway.
  http://anders.hultman.nu/album/al/alok-nyn-2001
On picture 25 and 26 I drive the steam engine myself! Unfortunately 
the film wind lever on my newly bought used ProgramA jammed, so they 
are double exposed, and looks quite strange, but nevertheless...

A mile long museum track, all what's left of the railways on Gotland island.
  http://anders.hultman.nu/album/al/dalhem-2002
Sweden's longest museum railway, a 20 mile/33 km narrow gauge track.
  http://anders.hultman.nu/album/al/lennakatten-2002
Steam engine excursion on a cargo track in Stockholm.
  http://anders.hultman.nu/album/al/alok-vartan-2002
Abandoned railroad cars and tracks in a Stockholm industrial park.
  http://anders.hultman.nu/album/al/liljeholmen-1996
Delivery of a newly built subway car from the factory.
  http://anders.hultman.nu/album/al/C20-lil
Building of a new tramline in Stockholm's southern suburbs.
Delivery of a newly built subway car from the factory.
  http://anders.hultman.nu/album/al/C20-gup
anders
-
http://anders.hultman.nu/

Re: Pentax Users Gallery

[Steve Desjardins]

"Let's face it, the _vast_ majority of PDML
posts are technoweenie posts, and I'm as guilty as anyone."

Technoweenie?  I resent the accuracy of that remark.

Steve (sulking)

Re: Pentax Users Gallery

[Ann Sanfedele]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > Fra: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>  > Think about what the word "professional" means to you.
>  > Then try to capture it in a single frame.
>  > Good luck.
>  > I am really looking forward to seeing this gallery.
>
> So do I :-)
>
> Maybe we'll even have some non-technical discussions...

> DagT

Oh-oh...

annsan

Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional

[Eactivist]

P.S. Your best choice for automatic field fill in, is probably creating some 
drop down lists. You cam do this in the form wizard. 

Marnie aka Doe  And "linking" your tables, as others have mentioned.

Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional

[Alin Flaider]

  Actually I met several picturesque coach drivers. They certainly
  displayed a conductor's sobriety. Anyone around? ;o)

  Servus,Alin
  
Chris wrote:

CS> Bus or Tram (at least in Europe) :-)

>> "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >Musical type conductor? If so, where.
>>
>> And if *not* a musical type conductor, what type???
>> (I've never met a professional electrical conductor!)

CS> Chris "ding, ding all aboard".

Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional

[Paul Delcour]

I'd love to have railroad as a theme being a mad train lover myself, though,
whenever I take pictures of trains myself I am never happy with the result.
Somnehow I do not seem to have the feel for how to put them in the frame
properly. O well, I'll just enjoy the real thing.

:-)

Paul Delcour

Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional

[Paul Delcour]

You'be amazed at much electricity I conduct when conducting...

:-)

Paul Delcour

> From: Mark Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 09:52:49 -0400
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional
> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 09:54:14 -0400
> 
> "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> Musical type conductor? If so, where.
> 
> And if *not* a musical type conductor, what type???
> (I've never met a professional electrical conductor!)
> 
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Paul Delcour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:18 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional
>> 
>> 
>> If people look at me and say, but you're a professional conductor, they
>> mean that word implies I know it all, or at least a lot. I don't of
>> course. The word just means I conduct for a living, no matter how good
>> ar bad: that has nothing to do with it. Amateurs can be better at things
>> than many a pro. However, the experience and routine of a pro nearly
>> always outdo the amateur.
>> 
>> :-)
>> 
>> Paul Delcour
>> 
>>> From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:44:58 -0600
>>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery
>>> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 00:45:18 -0400
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Charlton Vaughan"
>>> Subject: Pentax Users Gallery
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I'm new to the group and have a question.  I noticed in the gallery
>>>> this coming month's gallery theme is "Professional".  What is the
>>>> criteria for Professional?  Is this in regards to professional
>>>> photography, photographs of a profession or speaks of a profession or
>> 
>>>> what?  Please give me a hint, thanks.
>>> 
>>> Think about what the word "professional" means to you.
>>> Then try to capture it in a single frame.
>>> Good luck.
>>> I am really looking forward to seeing this gallery.
>>> 
>>> William (blame this one on me) Robb
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Mark Roberts
> Photography and writing
> www.robertstech.com
> 

Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional

[Paul Delcour]

Hilversum and surrounding areas, Netherlands.

:-)

Paul

> From: "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 08:06:34 -0400
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional
> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 08:06:53 -0400
> 
> Musical type conductor? If so, where.
> 
> Bill
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Delcour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:18 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional
> 
> 
> If people look at me and say, but you're a professional conductor, they
> mean that word implies I know it all, or at least a lot. I don't of
> course. The word just means I conduct for a living, no matter how good
> ar bad: that has nothing to do with it. Amateurs can be better at things
> than many a pro. However, the experience and routine of a pro nearly
> always outdo the amateur.
> 
> :-)
> 
> Paul Delcour
> 
>> From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:44:58 -0600
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery
>> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 00:45:18 -0400
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Charlton Vaughan"
>> Subject: Pentax Users Gallery
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm new to the group and have a question.  I noticed in the gallery
>>> this coming month's gallery theme is "Professional".  What is the
>>> criteria for Professional?  Is this in regards to professional
>>> photography, photographs of a profession or speaks of a profession or
> 
>>> what?  Please give me a hint, thanks.
>> 
>> Think about what the word "professional" means to you.
>> Then try to capture it in a single frame.
>> Good luck.
>> I am really looking forward to seeing this gallery.
>> 
>> William (blame this one on me) Robb
>> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional

[Chris Stoddart]

Bus or Tram (at least in Europe) :-)

> "Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Musical type conductor? If so, where.
>
> And if *not* a musical type conductor, what type???
> (I've never met a professional electrical conductor!)

Chris "ding, ding all aboard".

RE: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional

[Bill Owens]

Railroad

Bill

-Original Message-
From: Mark Roberts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 9:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional


"Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Musical type conductor? If so, where.

And if *not* a musical type conductor, what type???
(I've never met a professional electrical conductor!)


>-Original Message-
>From: Paul Delcour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:18 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional
>
>
>If people look at me and say, but you're a professional conductor, they
>mean that word implies I know it all, or at least a lot. I don't of
>course. The word just means I conduct for a living, no matter how good
>ar bad: that has nothing to do with it. Amateurs can be better at things
>than many a pro. However, the experience and routine of a pro nearly
>always outdo the amateur.
>
>:-)
>
>Paul Delcour
>
>> From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:44:58 -0600
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery
>> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 00:45:18 -0400
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Charlton Vaughan"
>> Subject: Pentax Users Gallery
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm new to the group and have a question.  I noticed in the gallery 
>>> this coming month's gallery theme is "Professional".  What is the 
>>> criteria for Professional?  Is this in regards to professional 
>>> photography, photographs of a profession or speaks of a profession or
>
>>> what?  Please give me a hint, thanks.
>> 
>> Think about what the word "professional" means to you.
>> Then try to capture it in a single frame.
>> Good luck.
>> I am really looking forward to seeing this gallery.
>> 
>> William (blame this one on me) Robb
>> 
>
>

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional

[Mark Roberts]

"Bill Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Musical type conductor? If so, where.

And if *not* a musical type conductor, what type???
(I've never met a professional electrical conductor!)


>-Original Message-
>From: Paul Delcour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:18 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional
>
>
>If people look at me and say, but you're a professional conductor, they
>mean that word implies I know it all, or at least a lot. I don't of
>course. The word just means I conduct for a living, no matter how good
>ar bad: that has nothing to do with it. Amateurs can be better at things
>than many a pro. However, the experience and routine of a pro nearly
>always outdo the amateur.
>
>:-)
>
>Paul Delcour
>
>> From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:44:58 -0600
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery
>> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 00:45:18 -0400
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Charlton Vaughan"
>> Subject: Pentax Users Gallery
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm new to the group and have a question.  I noticed in the gallery 
>>> this coming month's gallery theme is "Professional".  What is the 
>>> criteria for Professional?  Is this in regards to professional 
>>> photography, photographs of a profession or speaks of a profession or
>
>>> what?  Please give me a hint, thanks.
>> 
>> Think about what the word "professional" means to you.
>> Then try to capture it in a single frame.
>> Good luck.
>> I am really looking forward to seeing this gallery.
>> 
>> William (blame this one on me) Robb
>> 
>
>

-- 
Mark Roberts
Photography and writing
www.robertstech.com

RE: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional

[Bill Owens]

Musical type conductor? If so, where.

Bill

-Original Message-
From: Paul Delcour [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 7:18 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional


If people look at me and say, but you're a professional conductor, they
mean that word implies I know it all, or at least a lot. I don't of
course. The word just means I conduct for a living, no matter how good
ar bad: that has nothing to do with it. Amateurs can be better at things
than many a pro. However, the experience and routine of a pro nearly
always outdo the amateur.

:-)

Paul Delcour

> From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:44:58 -0600
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery
> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 00:45:18 -0400
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Charlton Vaughan"
> Subject: Pentax Users Gallery
> 
> 
>> 
>> I'm new to the group and have a question.  I noticed in the gallery 
>> this coming month's gallery theme is "Professional".  What is the 
>> criteria for Professional?  Is this in regards to professional 
>> photography, photographs of a profession or speaks of a profession or

>> what?  Please give me a hint, thanks.
> 
> Think about what the word "professional" means to you.
> Then try to capture it in a single frame.
> Good luck.
> I am really looking forward to seeing this gallery.
> 
> William (blame this one on me) Robb
> 

Re: Pentax Users Gallery - theme: professional

[Paul Delcour]

If people look at me and say, but you're a professional conductor, they mean
that word implies I know it all, or at least a lot. I don't of course. The
word just means I conduct for a living, no matter how good ar bad: that has
nothing to do with it. Amateurs can be better at things than many a pro.
However, the experience and routine of a pro nearly always outdo the
amateur.

:-)

Paul Delcour

> From: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:44:58 -0600
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Pentax Users Gallery
> Resent-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Resent-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 00:45:18 -0400
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Charlton Vaughan"
> Subject: Pentax Users Gallery
> 
> 
>> 
>> I'm new to the group and have a question.  I noticed in the gallery this
>> coming month's gallery theme is "Professional".  What is the criteria for
>> Professional?  Is this in regards to professional photography, photographs
>> of a profession or speaks of a profession or what?  Please give me a hint,
>> thanks.
> 
> Think about what the word "professional" means to you.
> Then try to capture it in a single frame.
> Good luck.
> I am really looking forward to seeing this gallery.
> 
> William (blame this one on me) Robb
> 

Re: Pentax Users Gallery

[dagt]

> Fra: "William Robb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Charlton Vaughan"
> >
> > I'm new to the group and have a question.  I noticed in the gallery this
> > coming month's gallery theme is "Professional".  What is the criteria for
> > Professional?  Is this in regards to professional photography, photographs
> > of a profession or speaks of a profession or what?  Please give me a hint,
> > thanks.

> Think about what the word "professional" means to you.
> Then try to capture it in a single frame.
> Good luck.
> I am really looking forward to seeing this gallery.

So do I :-)

Maybe we'll even have some non-technical discussions...

DagT

Re: Pentax Users Gallery

[Cotty]

On 11/9/03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] disgorged:

>I'm new to the group and have a question.  I noticed in the gallery this 
>coming month's gallery theme is "Professional".  What is the criteria for 
>Professional?  Is this in regards to professional photography, photographs 
>of a profession or speaks of a profession or what?  Please give me a hint, 
>thanks.
>
>Charlton

Over to you, Bill...


Cheers,
  Cotty


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