[RBW] Re: Rust on Chain Stay
I wouldn't worry about it before your tour. But for a short-term fix I'd take a rag, wipe the area with alcohol and use clear nail polish (use a paintbrush with a long handle if it's tough to get in there). That said crank removal is pretty simple; I think you'll be fine. Just remove the crank, sand or wet/sand lightly, use touch-up paint or nail polish. Shouldn't need loc-tite but I can't see how it would hurt (as long as it's not being used to compensate for loose screws from poor adjustment). Ryan On May 24, 6:48 pm, Joe S wrote: > I've had my Atlantis about 10 months and love it. I ride it nearly > every day, usually on my 30 mile round-trip commute to and from work. > > When I first rode the bike, the low stop setting on the front > derailleur was not set correctly. It took throwing the chain off onto > the chain stay with minor jamming a few times before I realized what > was happening and the paint on the chain stay was taken off in a swath > of about 1/2 inch. I haven't done anything to it other than to keep > checking (duh!) but now after a few weeks of bad timing and riding in > rain, I can see rust on the surface. There isn't a lot of room > between the crank, chain stay and frame in this vicinity and I'm > thinking that to really get at the rust I would need to remove the > crank. I don't mind giving this a shot, but will need to get a crank > puller and since I'm planning to tour on the bike in a month, I don't > want to get in a position where I'm getting tools, doing something new > and become pressed to get everything back and road tested with a > deadline looming. What is the best way to contain the rust? Can it > be done without removing the crank (at least for now)? > > BTW, it seems to me that the high / low stop settings are very > sensitive as I had the chain and cassette replaced recently at my > LBS. I wound up throwing the chain several times on my first ride > after getting the bike back, roughing up my nice polished crank. This > time it was the high setting that I needed to adjust. It seems to be > set correctly now but is this a configuration problem--I have a Campy > triple on the front and Shimano XT long cage on the rear? I recall > reading somewhere (Sheldon Brown?) that these screws should not be > loose--they are loose but not excessively so and they seem to stay > once set correctly? Is blue lock-tite a recommended solution? > > Thanks for your advice. > > Joe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hillborne, Moustache, Technomic
One thing they did advise me was to use a really short reach stem if I was going with Tech Deluxe & Moustache, so I bought a 7cm. Hope this helps. On May 24, 9:53 pm, "Rob H." wrote: > I'm thinking about setting up the same way. I'm pretty sure we'll be > good because of the 6 degree upsloping top tube. They got the top of > that headset is pretty high. Here's a link to a photo I found: > > http://www.countrybikeshop.com/images%20%28tcbs%29/on%20floor%20full%... > > On May 23, 6:43 pm, jandrews_nyc wrote: > > > Bonjour, > > > I'm thinking of making some changes on my Sam Hillborne and I'm just > > curious if anyone has their Hillborne set up with Moustache bars on a > > technomic stem ..INSTEAD of a dirt drop. > > I've found a couple pics online that have piqued my interest and I > > want to know if this is working for anyone out there. They are linked > > below. > > I'd love to see photos of your S.H. if it is indeed set up like this. > > >http://tinyurl.com/3rncy5f > > or > > >http://tinyurl.com/4544sre (this is a bombadill) > > > thanks > > Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Hillborne, Moustache, Technomic
I'm thinking about setting up the same way. I'm pretty sure we'll be good because of the 6 degree upsloping top tube. They got the top of that headset is pretty high. Here's a link to a photo I found: http://www.countrybikeshop.com/images%20%28tcbs%29/on%20floor%20full%20%283%29.JPG On May 23, 6:43 pm, jandrews_nyc wrote: > Bonjour, > > I'm thinking of making some changes on my Sam Hillborne and I'm just > curious if anyone has their Hillborne set up with Moustache bars on a > technomic stem ..INSTEAD of a dirt drop. > I've found a couple pics online that have piqued my interest and I > want to know if this is working for anyone out there. They are linked > below. > I'd love to see photos of your S.H. if it is indeed set up like this. > > http://tinyurl.com/3rncy5f > or > > http://tinyurl.com/4544sre (this is a bombadill) > > thanks > Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Decision Potential
LOL!!! Sent from my iPhone 4 On May 24, 2011, at 5:37 PM, William wrote: > It's time for a sweet custom! > > On May 24, 3:55 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: >> FWIW, I started with a 61cm Homer and then got a 60cm Bombadil. The >> Homer fit perfectly and it's fit has been improved with a 7cm Nitto >> stem. It also runs 35 Supreme tires. The Bombadil with 50 Supremes >> proved too long and dangerously too high for standover clearance. The >> horizontal length was the killer factor and I exchanged it for a 61 >> Atlantis. >> >> My center of crank to saddle distance is 78.8cm. Can't remember my exact PBH. >> >> Rene >> >> Sent from my iPhone 4 >> >> On May 24, 2011, at 5:03 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> wrote: >>> Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure that it's not as simple as 62cm - 60cm >>> = 2cm difference in exactly what's important here, my ability to >>> comfortably straddle the top tube. There's seat tube angle, there's >>> rounding of published numbers, there's different effective top tube, >>> there's inconsistency in the available specifications. >> >>> That test provides some info, though. I did lift my Hillborne and I >>> can get it maybe 2 or 3cm off the ground (more accuracy than that is >>> not going to happen, I'm afraid). So basically it all adds up to "too >>> close to call" without some additional real world information. >> >>> First-hand experience would be great. As would any comparative >>> information from out in the field. Say, if someone said "Hey, I own >>> both! My Sam is sorta tight and my Hunqapillar is even tighter, but >>> they both work for me.". Or if someone said "No way, dude. I've got >>> both those bikes. All kinds of room on the Sam. But I had to get a 58 >>> Hunqapillar. The 62cm was Way Too Big." >> >>> Alas life is not like that so far. >> >>> We should all have such problems! :) >> >>> Yours, >>> Thomas Lynn Skean >> >>> On May 23, 6:45 pm, newenglandbike wrote: How 'bout a 60cm Bombadil?If not, and you can't find a local Hunqapillar to try, consider that 2cm is not much difference at all.But, one test would be to straddle your SH, grab the bars in one hand and the seat in the other, and lift; then have someone take a look at how high the wheels come off the ground. If you have an inch or two of clearance, the HP should work. >> Anyway good luck with the choices. >> -Matt >> On May 23, 7:28 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: >> > Hi! >> > I've an important decision to make: 62cm Hunqapillar or a (second) 60cm > Hillborne? >> > At least, I *may* have that decision to make. No amount of measuring will > actually let me *know* if I can actually straddle the Hunqapillar. I have > a nominal 90cm PBH. All the other numbers seem reasonable to me. So it is > *possible* that I *might* be comfortable on one. I don't know. >> > So... if there's a 62cm Hunqapillar owner in the Chicago area (generously > defined) who'd be willing to let me throw a leg over their Hunqapillar, I > would greatly appreciate it. I wouldn't need the wheels to roll, let > alone to actually ride it. Just to straddle it to see where the top tube > lives. >> > It'd be fantastic if it proved appropriate. But it'd still be great to > *know* if it didn't. It would eliminate any down-the-road > missed-opportunity regrets. >> > Much as I love love love my Hillborne, I do feel slightly odd about > buying two identical bikes. And I don't dismiss the allure of the Fatter > Tire and Rougher Trail and Even Heavier Load. >> > Please e-mail me offline if you're willing to let me check it out. I'll > come directly to you or meet you anywhere neutral and convenient for you. > We could arrange it with all the notice you need. Obviously, weekends or > evenings would be great but I'm willing to consider pretty much any time. > I'm hoping (but not committed to) make my choice (if I actually have one) > in July. But I'm flexible. >> > Thanks for reading, let alone considering, my request! >> > And feel free to fill this thread "online" with > opinions/insights/experiences of having two identical bikes or multiple > RBW bikes or comparisons/contrasts between Hillborne-like and > Hunqapillar-like bikes. I'm interested. >> > Yours, > Thomas Lynn Skean > P. S. Would t'were we all had such problems! >> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group >>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this
[RBW] Re: visit to the nitto factory
very cool. thanks for sharing! On May 24, 7:45 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > http://www.tokyofixedgear.com/ShopFeaturesDetail.asp?Bno=12 > > love the pictures and video. > > -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: visit to the nitto factory
Amazing. On May 24, 2011, at 7:12 PM, Collapsing Waves wrote: > Thank you for posting this link, Seth. That was a wonderful tour of > the Nitto factory/workspace. I hope they are all well there. > > David > > On May 24, 8:45 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: >> http://www.tokyofixedgear.com/ShopFeaturesDetail.asp?Bno=12 >> >> love the pictures and video. >> >> -sv > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Re: Decision Potential
I just put a 62 Hunqa together after receiving it in Jan-it's been that kind of spring. I'm amazed at how much I enjoy the upright position afforded by the Albatross bars!!! I have a color-matched 150mm stem them had laying around and that definitely adds to the correct fit of the bike. Suddenly I'm in 5th grade again. How can that be bad? RGZ On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Zack wrote: > I think I have something to offer here. > > I measured my own PBH to 91 cm. I went to Riv, used their method, and > got 94 cm (with someone helping, using the paint stick, and really > going for it lol). > > I am 6'3 and 240 for reference. > > I rode the 62 Hunqapillar and the 64 Hillborne. > > I ended up going with the Sam. I thought that it would be more > versatile, as I do some longer rides that I would want a bike that > feels a little more lighter and spry. I thought that the Sam would be > great for that, and wouldn't buck if I decided to go camping and ride > a bit shorter distance. > > If I were to get another Riv, the Hunqa would be at the top of my > list. It was really fun to ride, and seems like it would be a beast > on fire trails, with a full load. Just a super fun bike to ride. > > I personally would not get another Sam. > > I am, however, with you on both the diagatube and the Hunqapillar > paint job. I don't like the grey/maroon combo. I also think that > getting a custom paint job with a green or blue plus the cream would > make the bike look sweet, and would lessen the weirdness of the > diagatube somehow. I think sometimes people scoff at the aesthetics, > but, let's face it, how a bike looks (particularly a riv) is part of > the greatness. Even with all that being said, I would love to have > one of the stock hunqas. It's a really sweet bike. One of those "you > have to ride it to understand" things I think. > > I would also call Riv to ask them about the fit, they would be best > suited to answer your questions I think. > > On May 24, 1:58 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean > wrote: >> Well... it's not really that simple for me. Either of these bikes will >> completely and comfortably cover the functionality I need and want. >> Increasing my capabilities is something of an unlikely project, since >> they are limited not by the bike but its engine :) I expect to do no >> riding that I wouldn't feel perfectly comfortable doing on the >> Hunqapillar or the Hillborne. If I had them both, I might prefer one >> over the other every now and then, with most ties I'd expect to go to >> the Hillborne. I've got a prejudice; if I could end up with two of one >> and one of the other, I'd choose to have two Hillbornes and a single >> Hunqapillar. >> >> To me it's more a question of: Will I appreciate the variety itself >> enough to give up near-total redundancy on the known-and-loved? I >> mean, there's always the possibility that I won't actually love the >> Hunqapillar. But I confess I've lately developed a desire to taste the >> cushy goodness and even-more-solid ride that I'd expect from a >> Hunqapillar. It's even remotely possible that I'll *prefer* it to the >> Hillborne (hard to imagine from my current perspective). >> >> As a practical matter, of course, I still will have lots of redundancy >> with the Hillborne/Hunqapillar combination. I expect to be able to >> swap cockpits without problem. Most parts and accessories will be >> swappable (perhaps with tweaking) without any compromise. Fenders and >> tires probably not. And maybe the seatpost, since there's some >> possibility I won't be able to get a 27.2 seat tube on the >> Hunqapillar. And I don't know about bottom brackets. Small >> differences, but differences nonetheless. >> >> So it's variety versus small compromise. I'm tending towards the >> Hunqapillar, I think. But I won't hesitate to get a Hillborne if the >> Hunqapillar doesn't fit. I haven't decided what I'm going to do if I >> can't find out about the Hunqapillar's fit. >> >> Yours, >> Thomas Lynn Skean >> >> On May 24, 12:02 pm, Brett Lindenbach >> wrote: >> >> >> >> > thomas, you only need to answer one question: what is it you want your new >> > bike to do? >> >> > if the answer is to duplicate what you already have, then go for it. i >> > should add that having an identical bike would allow you to go for rides >> > with your doppelgänger when he visits. or you could set up one hillborne >> > as >> > your commuter, and the other more for distance/light touring. >> >> > personally, i'd get something that increases my capabilities. i travel a >> > lot, and often wish i had my bike with me. i might consider getting a >> > lightweight riv set up to break apart for travel. or maybe a fun little >> > brommie. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googleg
[RBW] Re: visit to the nitto factory
Thank you for posting this link, Seth. That was a wonderful tour of the Nitto factory/workspace. I hope they are all well there. David On May 24, 8:45 pm, Seth Vidal wrote: > http://www.tokyofixedgear.com/ShopFeaturesDetail.asp?Bno=12 > > love the pictures and video. > > -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Rust on Chain Stay
I've had my Atlantis about 10 months and love it. I ride it nearly every day, usually on my 30 mile round-trip commute to and from work. When I first rode the bike, the low stop setting on the front derailleur was not set correctly. It took throwing the chain off onto the chain stay with minor jamming a few times before I realized what was happening and the paint on the chain stay was taken off in a swath of about 1/2 inch. I haven't done anything to it other than to keep checking (duh!) but now after a few weeks of bad timing and riding in rain, I can see rust on the surface. There isn't a lot of room between the crank, chain stay and frame in this vicinity and I'm thinking that to really get at the rust I would need to remove the crank. I don't mind giving this a shot, but will need to get a crank puller and since I'm planning to tour on the bike in a month, I don't want to get in a position where I'm getting tools, doing something new and become pressed to get everything back and road tested with a deadline looming. What is the best way to contain the rust? Can it be done without removing the crank (at least for now)? BTW, it seems to me that the high / low stop settings are very sensitive as I had the chain and cassette replaced recently at my LBS. I wound up throwing the chain several times on my first ride after getting the bike back, roughing up my nice polished crank. This time it was the high setting that I needed to adjust. It seems to be set correctly now but is this a configuration problem--I have a Campy triple on the front and Shimano XT long cage on the rear? I recall reading somewhere (Sheldon Brown?) that these screws should not be loose--they are loose but not excessively so and they seem to stay once set correctly? Is blue lock-tite a recommended solution? Thanks for your advice. Joe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: New Brooks Saddles and Carradice Bag For Sale
Note: The bag has just been sold. If you want both saddles, I'm willing to sell for 170; otherwise it's 90 for each one, with free shipping in the USA. On May 24, 11:52 am, velovixen wrote: > I bought one saddle for a project I never did, and took the other as > part of a trade. And I received the bag as a gift. > > The saddles are both Brooks B-17s. They're both black, with steel > rivets, and come new in their boxes. One is a standard B17 (men's) > and the other is a B-17 Narrow. I ride Brooks saddles on my bike and > have spares. So I don't anticipate needing either of these for a long > time. > > The Super C Rack Trunk is made from black waxed canvas, like other > Carradice bags. Its capacity is thirteen liters, which is larger than > most other bags of its type. I use Carradice saddlebags, but I don't > use rack trunks, which is why I'm selling this one. > > I'm asking 90 dollars for any of these items. Shipping is free to a > USA address; if you want anything sent outside the US, let me know and > I'll check on shipping costs. > > If you want two of these items, I'm asking 175. Or, if you want all > three, you can have them for 250 dollars. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Decision Potential
i still contend that the bike you choose needs to have a purpose. perhaps variety* is* that purpose. the hunq (i would go for the bomba) would give you a very different ride. i don't quite see the logic in getting a second hillborne just to have another hillborne. if cockpit swapping is trivial for you, then you already have a lot of untapped variety. an alternative would be to simply save your money and just *love your current bike all the more.* maybe buy it a nice beautiful bag. btw, i also wasn't a fan of the grid grey but then i came around, and now i love it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Decision Potential
I am around the same size as you and have been looking longingly at Hunqas. According to the Riv site: 5-9" to 5-11: 54cm Long-legged 5-10" to 6-1: 58cm Long legged 6ft to 6-4.4: 62cm Just wondering - why are you thinking 62 vs 58? If you want it do be maximally different than the Sam, you might want to put big tires on it and then, according to the site: 62cm Hunqa: 91.5-100cm PBH (Saddle hight 82-90cm, standover on biggest tire is 91.5cm) Now I like big bikes, but having a standover taller than my PBH is stretching it, so to speak! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Decision Potential
Hey, that's great. To hear the 62 Hunqapillar described as significantly smaller than the 64cm Hillborne is encouraging indeed. Thanks! Trust me... If there were a 60cm Hunqapillar, it'd be the front runner. Alas, the 58 is too small. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On May 24, 7:30 pm, Zack wrote: > Tom- > > I am 6'3" and would say that I have a relatively short inseam. I have > a very long torso. > > I would say that the 62 Hunqa felt significantly smaller than the 64 > Sam did. It didn't, however, feel tiny. > > Also, your comment about fendering both bikes pushes me even more > firmly in the direction of picking up the Hunq - either the 62 or, > gasp, the 60. Then you could still run big boy tires, even with the > fenders. Just seems like you could do so much more with the combo of > the Sam and the Hunqa. > > On May 24, 6:33 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean > wrote: > > > > > Interesting, indeed. > > > I have not measured my PBH myself. The nice folks at The Country Bike > > Shop in Celina, OH, did. (Can't say enough nice things about the > > Dennings and The Country Bike Shop. Nice people and a wonderful > > place.) I suspect theirs is comaprable to an RBW measurement. It felt > > like it to me! > > > I'm 6' (probably plus a smidge) and 245. I'd say I have slightly- > > longer-than-average legs. So the Country Bike Shop 90 PBH sounds right > > to me. To me, your 6'4" - 94cm combination seems roughly consistent > > with my 90 PBH measurement. > > > Did your "clearance" of the top tubes of the 64cm Hillborne and the > > 62cm Hunqapillar seem very similar? > > > Yours, > > Thomas Lynn Skean > > Enjoying the problem. > > > On May 24, 3:25 pm, Zack wrote: > > > > I think I have something to offer here. > > > > I measured my own PBH to 91 cm. I went to Riv, used their method, and > > > got 94 cm (with someone helping, using the paint stick, and really > > > going for it lol). > > > > I am 6'3 and 240 for reference. > > > > I rode the 62 Hunqapillar and the 64 Hillborne. > > > > I ended up going with the Sam. I thought that it would be more > > > versatile, as I do some longer rides that I would want a bike that > > > feels a little more lighter and spry. I thought that the Sam would be > > > great for that, and wouldn't buck if I decided to go camping and ride > > > a bit shorter distance. > > > > If I were to get another Riv, the Hunqa would be at the top of my > > > list. It was really fun to ride, and seems like it would be a beast > > > on fire trails, with a full load. Just a super fun bike to ride. > > > > I personally would not get another Sam. > > > > I am, however, with you on both the diagatube and the Hunqapillar > > > paint job. I don't like the grey/maroon combo. I also think that > > > getting a custom paint job with a green or blue plus the cream would > > > make the bike look sweet, and would lessen the weirdness of the > > > diagatube somehow. I think sometimes people scoff at the aesthetics, > > > but, let's face it, how a bike looks (particularly a riv) is part of > > > the greatness. Even with all that being said, I would love to have > > > one of the stock hunqas. It's a really sweet bike. One of those "you > > > have to ride it to understand" things I think. > > > > I would also call Riv to ask them about the fit, they would be best > > > suited to answer your questions I think. > > > > On May 24, 1:58 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean > > > wrote: > > > > > Well... it's not really that simple for me. Either of these bikes will > > > > completely and comfortably cover the functionality I need and want. > > > > Increasing my capabilities is something of an unlikely project, since > > > > they are limited not by the bike but its engine :) I expect to do no > > > > riding that I wouldn't feel perfectly comfortable doing on the > > > > Hunqapillar or the Hillborne. If I had them both, I might prefer one > > > > over the other every now and then, with most ties I'd expect to go to > > > > the Hillborne. I've got a prejudice; if I could end up with two of one > > > > and one of the other, I'd choose to have two Hillbornes and a single > > > > Hunqapillar. > > > > > To me it's more a question of: Will I appreciate the variety itself > > > > enough to give up near-total redundancy on the known-and-loved? I > > > > mean, there's always the possibility that I won't actually love the > > > > Hunqapillar. But I confess I've lately developed a desire to taste the > > > > cushy goodness and even-more-solid ride that I'd expect from a > > > > Hunqapillar. It's even remotely possible that I'll *prefer* it to the > > > > Hillborne (hard to imagine from my current perspective). > > > > > As a practical matter, of course, I still will have lots of redundancy > > > > with the Hillborne/Hunqapillar combination. I expect to be able to > > > > swap cockpits without problem. Most parts and accessories will be > > > > swappable (perhaps with tweaking) without any compromise. Fenders and > > > > tires probably not. And
[RBW] 59 cm Riv custom (Curt Goodrich)
I have a 59 cm custom for (tearful) sale. For medical reasons, my rides are very short these days, and it doesn't look like I'll be doing much touring--which is what this bike is set up for--anytime in the foreseeable future. Anyhow, asking $1990, packing and shipping extra. (Or pick it up if you live in the California Bay Area.) The custom was built in 2005 by Curt Goodrich, painted maroon (Imron 143) by Joe Bell. It's in pretty good condition--some beausage--a few scratches and one small dent in the drive side seat stay (thanks DHL!). Has a triple up front and 8-speed cassette in the back, with very low gears. Dia-Compe centerpull brakes with brazed-on studs and KoolStop pads. Extras include Ortlieb bags, a Tubus Duo rack with taillight, Berthoud stainless steel fenders and a Berthoud handle bar bag with its supporting rack. This is a complete touring bike, and if it fits you, you are ready to go! Or you could strip off the touring gear, and have a really great bike for day rides. Email me for complete specs and pictures. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS Atlantis, Phil Wood, Son hub, Nitto seat post...all kinds of new stuff
Wow, I could really wish this Atlantis frame weren't for sale . . . so tempting . . . so beautiful. -- Forrest On May 24, 4:53 pm, Andrew wrote: > Shifters are sold > > On May 23, 1:04 pm, Andrew wrote: > > > > > > > > > Selling off my project, please check the manufacturer websites for > > more info. Shipping is not included in the prices: > > > 1. Atlantis 58cm Frame and Fork and Ultegra Headset. Its a Toyo built > > one, can't get these anymore. Totally brand new. Still has the > > seatpost insert. Has one of the nicest paintjobs I have seen on an > > Atlantis. $1700 > > >http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0050.jpghttp://i19.p... > > > 2. Phil Wood Rear 135mm touring cassette hub. Brand new. 135mm spacing > > and 36 holes. Best touring hub there is. $295 > > >http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0042.jpghttp://i19.p... > > > 3. Dynamo 700c Wheelset. Brand new. Shimano Dynamo lx front hub, lx > > rear hub. 36h front and rear with Mavic A319. $250 for both. > > >http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0045.jpghttp://i19.p... > > > 4. Son Delux Dynamo hub. 36h silver polished. Brand new. These work > > with 700c and a led light. $235 > > >http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0035.jpghttp://i19.p... > > > 5. Son Edelux dynamo headlight. Beautiful light, the best. $165 > > >http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0038.jpghttp://i19.p... > > > 6. Nitto Jaguar Seatpost. Prettiest and strongest seatpost made by > > Nitto. 27.2mm width, 44 rails (standard not track) and 250mm length. > > Brand new. Check out that wrapping. $125 > > >http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0029.jpghttp://i19.p... > > > 7. Sugino Alpina 172.5 Triple. 48-36-24. High polish sleeker version > > of the XD with a wider range. Had to special order these, not sure if > > you can get them anywhere. Brand New. 10 speed compatible. $175 > > >http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0017-1.jpghttp://i19... > > > 8. Panaracer 35mm tourguard, set of 2. Brand new. $45 > > >http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0039.jpghttp://i19.p... > > > 9. Shimano Barend shifters for 8 speed. Brand new $65 > > >http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0019-2.jpghttp://i19... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] FS: Rivendell Road 63.5cm
Hi Everyone, I still have my Riv frame for sale: Here are links to the spec sheet and pic after it was repainted 2 years ago: http://thesaltycyclist.blogspot.com/2009/07/rivendell-road-spec-sheet.html http://thesaltycyclist.blogspot.com/2009/05/blog-post.html The fork steer tube was replaced with a threadless steer tube when it was repainted at Joe Bell's shop. The frameset will include the Chris King headset and a Thompson Masterpiece silver seatpost, and a frame pump that was painted to match. The rear spacing is 130mm and it was built for short reach brakes (bottomed out). Can fit 25C with fender and up to 32C without. The frame is in excellent shape. There a few nicks here and there which have been touched up (most are in inconspicuous places). The frame is still a stunner. If you have questions, please ask. I'm asking $1200 plus shipping ($50). Thanks for looking, Joe Joe Bartoe Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc. email: j...@synapticcycles.com website: www.synapticcycles.com Twitter: @synapticcycles phone: 949-374-6079 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] visit to the nitto factory
http://www.tokyofixedgear.com/ShopFeaturesDetail.asp?Bno=12 love the pictures and video. -sv -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Looking for a 57 or 55cm Bleriot...
PS--> the fella with the 57 is Rick, not Bill, sorry... Rick if nothing appears I'll be in touch about your 57, thanks. -Scott On May 24, 5:20 pm, "S.Cutshall" wrote: > Back to the drawingboard... > > Anyone -else- have a 55cm Bleriot frameset they are interested in > trading or selling outright? > > Otherwise, (Bill, right?) I am leaning toward that 57cm frameset > swap. > > I am more than a little upset with a certain List member here who has > Back-n-Forth'd me to death and then in the 11th hour of finalizing the > deal, pulled the plug on me without explanation. They shall remain > nameless, but I will remember the name. > > -Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Gamoh Rack QR Bracket
I have a Gamoh rack that I'm planning on moving along but want to keep the quick release bracket that creates an extra mounting eyelet. I haven't been able to locate anything like. Perhaps someone here has an idea? Here's a link to the bracket. http://tinyurl.com/3pxksy9 Thanks for leads, advice and suggestions. Mitch San Luis Obispo, CA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Inquiry re Sagging Selle AnAtomica
It doesn't look like the S-A site has changed at all in some time. I don't think that whoever is running he company is paying any attention to the site. Bill On May 24, 9:09 am, Nick wrote: > > BTW - regarding Selle AnAtomica the company - Do any of you find it > curious that their web page makes no mention of the founder's untimely > death? I would expect that they would at least create a page dedicated > to his legacy... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Decision Potential
Tom- I am 6'3" and would say that I have a relatively short inseam. I have a very long torso. I would say that the 62 Hunqa felt significantly smaller than the 64 Sam did. It didn't, however, feel tiny. Also, your comment about fendering both bikes pushes me even more firmly in the direction of picking up the Hunq - either the 62 or, gasp, the 60. Then you could still run big boy tires, even with the fenders. Just seems like you could do so much more with the combo of the Sam and the Hunqa. On May 24, 6:33 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: > Interesting, indeed. > > I have not measured my PBH myself. The nice folks at The Country Bike > Shop in Celina, OH, did. (Can't say enough nice things about the > Dennings and The Country Bike Shop. Nice people and a wonderful > place.) I suspect theirs is comaprable to an RBW measurement. It felt > like it to me! > > I'm 6' (probably plus a smidge) and 245. I'd say I have slightly- > longer-than-average legs. So the Country Bike Shop 90 PBH sounds right > to me. To me, your 6'4" - 94cm combination seems roughly consistent > with my 90 PBH measurement. > > Did your "clearance" of the top tubes of the 64cm Hillborne and the > 62cm Hunqapillar seem very similar? > > Yours, > Thomas Lynn Skean > Enjoying the problem. > > On May 24, 3:25 pm, Zack wrote: > > > > > I think I have something to offer here. > > > I measured my own PBH to 91 cm. I went to Riv, used their method, and > > got 94 cm (with someone helping, using the paint stick, and really > > going for it lol). > > > I am 6'3 and 240 for reference. > > > I rode the 62 Hunqapillar and the 64 Hillborne. > > > I ended up going with the Sam. I thought that it would be more > > versatile, as I do some longer rides that I would want a bike that > > feels a little more lighter and spry. I thought that the Sam would be > > great for that, and wouldn't buck if I decided to go camping and ride > > a bit shorter distance. > > > If I were to get another Riv, the Hunqa would be at the top of my > > list. It was really fun to ride, and seems like it would be a beast > > on fire trails, with a full load. Just a super fun bike to ride. > > > I personally would not get another Sam. > > > I am, however, with you on both the diagatube and the Hunqapillar > > paint job. I don't like the grey/maroon combo. I also think that > > getting a custom paint job with a green or blue plus the cream would > > make the bike look sweet, and would lessen the weirdness of the > > diagatube somehow. I think sometimes people scoff at the aesthetics, > > but, let's face it, how a bike looks (particularly a riv) is part of > > the greatness. Even with all that being said, I would love to have > > one of the stock hunqas. It's a really sweet bike. One of those "you > > have to ride it to understand" things I think. > > > I would also call Riv to ask them about the fit, they would be best > > suited to answer your questions I think. > > > On May 24, 1:58 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean > > wrote: > > > > Well... it's not really that simple for me. Either of these bikes will > > > completely and comfortably cover the functionality I need and want. > > > Increasing my capabilities is something of an unlikely project, since > > > they are limited not by the bike but its engine :) I expect to do no > > > riding that I wouldn't feel perfectly comfortable doing on the > > > Hunqapillar or the Hillborne. If I had them both, I might prefer one > > > over the other every now and then, with most ties I'd expect to go to > > > the Hillborne. I've got a prejudice; if I could end up with two of one > > > and one of the other, I'd choose to have two Hillbornes and a single > > > Hunqapillar. > > > > To me it's more a question of: Will I appreciate the variety itself > > > enough to give up near-total redundancy on the known-and-loved? I > > > mean, there's always the possibility that I won't actually love the > > > Hunqapillar. But I confess I've lately developed a desire to taste the > > > cushy goodness and even-more-solid ride that I'd expect from a > > > Hunqapillar. It's even remotely possible that I'll *prefer* it to the > > > Hillborne (hard to imagine from my current perspective). > > > > As a practical matter, of course, I still will have lots of redundancy > > > with the Hillborne/Hunqapillar combination. I expect to be able to > > > swap cockpits without problem. Most parts and accessories will be > > > swappable (perhaps with tweaking) without any compromise. Fenders and > > > tires probably not. And maybe the seatpost, since there's some > > > possibility I won't be able to get a 27.2 seat tube on the > > > Hunqapillar. And I don't know about bottom brackets. Small > > > differences, but differences nonetheless. > > > > So it's variety versus small compromise. I'm tending towards the > > > Hunqapillar, I think. But I won't hesitate to get a Hillborne if the > > > Hunqapillar doesn't fit. I haven't decided what I'm going to do if I > > > can't find
[RBW] Re: Looking for a 57 or 55cm Bleriot...
Back to the drawingboard... Anyone -else- have a 55cm Bleriot frameset they are interested in trading or selling outright? Otherwise, (Bill, right?) I am leaning toward that 57cm frameset swap. I am more than a little upset with a certain List member here who has Back-n-Forth'd me to death and then in the 11th hour of finalizing the deal, pulled the plug on me without explanation. They shall remain nameless, but I will remember the name. -Scott -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Decision Potential
It's time for a sweet custom! On May 24, 3:55 pm, Rene Sterental wrote: > FWIW, I started with a 61cm Homer and then got a 60cm Bombadil. The > Homer fit perfectly and it's fit has been improved with a 7cm Nitto > stem. It also runs 35 Supreme tires. The Bombadil with 50 Supremes > proved too long and dangerously too high for standover clearance. The > horizontal length was the killer factor and I exchanged it for a 61 > Atlantis. > > My center of crank to saddle distance is 78.8cm. Can't remember my exact PBH. > > Rene > > Sent from my iPhone 4 > > On May 24, 2011, at 5:03 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean > > > > > > > > wrote: > > Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure that it's not as simple as 62cm - 60cm > > = 2cm difference in exactly what's important here, my ability to > > comfortably straddle the top tube. There's seat tube angle, there's > > rounding of published numbers, there's different effective top tube, > > there's inconsistency in the available specifications. > > > That test provides some info, though. I did lift my Hillborne and I > > can get it maybe 2 or 3cm off the ground (more accuracy than that is > > not going to happen, I'm afraid). So basically it all adds up to "too > > close to call" without some additional real world information. > > > First-hand experience would be great. As would any comparative > > information from out in the field. Say, if someone said "Hey, I own > > both! My Sam is sorta tight and my Hunqapillar is even tighter, but > > they both work for me.". Or if someone said "No way, dude. I've got > > both those bikes. All kinds of room on the Sam. But I had to get a 58 > > Hunqapillar. The 62cm was Way Too Big." > > > Alas life is not like that so far. > > > We should all have such problems! :) > > > Yours, > > Thomas Lynn Skean > > > On May 23, 6:45 pm, newenglandbike wrote: > >> How 'bout a 60cm Bombadil? If not, and you can't find a local > >> Hunqapillar to try, consider that 2cm is not much difference at > >> all. But, one test would be to straddle your SH, grab the bars in > >> one hand and the seat in the other, and lift; then have someone take > >> a look at how high the wheels come off the ground. If you have an > >> inch or two of clearance, the HP should work. > > >> Anyway good luck with the choices. > > >> -Matt > > >> On May 23, 7:28 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean > >> wrote: > > >>> Hi! > > >>> I've an important decision to make: 62cm Hunqapillar or a (second) 60cm > >>> Hillborne? > > >>> At least, I *may* have that decision to make. No amount of measuring will > >>> actually let me *know* if I can actually straddle the Hunqapillar. I have > >>> a nominal 90cm PBH. All the other numbers seem reasonable to me. So it is > >>> *possible* that I *might* be comfortable on one. I don't know. > > >>> So... if there's a 62cm Hunqapillar owner in the Chicago area (generously > >>> defined) who'd be willing to let me throw a leg over their Hunqapillar, I > >>> would greatly appreciate it. I wouldn't need the wheels to roll, let > >>> alone to actually ride it. Just to straddle it to see where the top tube > >>> lives. > > >>> It'd be fantastic if it proved appropriate. But it'd still be great to > >>> *know* if it didn't. It would eliminate any down-the-road > >>> missed-opportunity regrets. > > >>> Much as I love love love my Hillborne, I do feel slightly odd about > >>> buying two identical bikes. And I don't dismiss the allure of the Fatter > >>> Tire and Rougher Trail and Even Heavier Load. > > >>> Please e-mail me offline if you're willing to let me check it out. I'll > >>> come directly to you or meet you anywhere neutral and convenient for you. > >>> We could arrange it with all the notice you need. Obviously, weekends or > >>> evenings would be great but I'm willing to consider pretty much any time. > >>> I'm hoping (but not committed to) make my choice (if I actually have one) > >>> in July. But I'm flexible. > > >>> Thanks for reading, let alone considering, my request! > > >>> And feel free to fill this thread "online" with > >>> opinions/insights/experiences of having two identical bikes or multiple > >>> RBW bikes or comparisons/contrasts between Hillborne-like and > >>> Hunqapillar-like bikes. I'm interested. > > >>> Yours, > >>> Thomas Lynn Skean > >>> P. S. Would t'were we all had such problems! > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...
Re: [RBW] Re: Decision Potential
FWIW, I started with a 61cm Homer and then got a 60cm Bombadil. The Homer fit perfectly and it's fit has been improved with a 7cm Nitto stem. It also runs 35 Supreme tires. The Bombadil with 50 Supremes proved too long and dangerously too high for standover clearance. The horizontal length was the killer factor and I exchanged it for a 61 Atlantis. My center of crank to saddle distance is 78.8cm. Can't remember my exact PBH. Rene Sent from my iPhone 4 On May 24, 2011, at 5:03 PM, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: > Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure that it's not as simple as 62cm - 60cm > = 2cm difference in exactly what's important here, my ability to > comfortably straddle the top tube. There's seat tube angle, there's > rounding of published numbers, there's different effective top tube, > there's inconsistency in the available specifications. > > That test provides some info, though. I did lift my Hillborne and I > can get it maybe 2 or 3cm off the ground (more accuracy than that is > not going to happen, I'm afraid). So basically it all adds up to "too > close to call" without some additional real world information. > > First-hand experience would be great. As would any comparative > information from out in the field. Say, if someone said "Hey, I own > both! My Sam is sorta tight and my Hunqapillar is even tighter, but > they both work for me.". Or if someone said "No way, dude. I've got > both those bikes. All kinds of room on the Sam. But I had to get a 58 > Hunqapillar. The 62cm was Way Too Big." > > Alas life is not like that so far. > > We should all have such problems! :) > > Yours, > Thomas Lynn Skean > > On May 23, 6:45 pm, newenglandbike wrote: >> How 'bout a 60cm Bombadil?If not, and you can't find a local >> Hunqapillar to try, consider that 2cm is not much difference at >> all.But, one test would be to straddle your SH, grab the bars in >> one hand and the seat in the other, and lift; then have someone take >> a look at how high the wheels come off the ground. If you have an >> inch or two of clearance, the HP should work. >> >> Anyway good luck with the choices. >> >> -Matt >> >> On May 23, 7:28 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> Hi! >> >>> I've an important decision to make: 62cm Hunqapillar or a (second) 60cm >>> Hillborne? >> >>> At least, I *may* have that decision to make. No amount of measuring will >>> actually let me *know* if I can actually straddle the Hunqapillar. I have a >>> nominal 90cm PBH. All the other numbers seem reasonable to me. So it is >>> *possible* that I *might* be comfortable on one. I don't know. >> >>> So... if there's a 62cm Hunqapillar owner in the Chicago area (generously >>> defined) who'd be willing to let me throw a leg over their Hunqapillar, I >>> would greatly appreciate it. I wouldn't need the wheels to roll, let alone >>> to actually ride it. Just to straddle it to see where the top tube lives. >> >>> It'd be fantastic if it proved appropriate. But it'd still be great to >>> *know* if it didn't. It would eliminate any down-the-road >>> missed-opportunity regrets. >> >>> Much as I love love love my Hillborne, I do feel slightly odd about buying >>> two identical bikes. And I don't dismiss the allure of the Fatter Tire and >>> Rougher Trail and Even Heavier Load. >> >>> Please e-mail me offline if you're willing to let me check it out. I'll >>> come directly to you or meet you anywhere neutral and convenient for you. >>> We could arrange it with all the notice you need. Obviously, weekends or >>> evenings would be great but I'm willing to consider pretty much any time. >>> I'm hoping (but not committed to) make my choice (if I actually have one) >>> in July. But I'm flexible. >> >>> Thanks for reading, let alone considering, my request! >> >>> And feel free to fill this thread "online" with >>> opinions/insights/experiences of having two identical bikes or multiple RBW >>> bikes or comparisons/contrasts between Hillborne-like and Hunqapillar-like >>> bikes. I'm interested. >> >>> Yours, >>> Thomas Lynn Skean >>> P. S. Would t'were we all had such problems! > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Decision Potential
Oh, I agree it does need a purpose. For me, they are (1) basic redundancy (Hillborne slightly better than Hunqapillar) (2) winter readiness (2-3 months out of the year, one bike will wear studded tires all the time; doesn't matter which I choose, really) (3) variety (Hunqapillar better than Hillborne) Variety is definitely one of my purposes. And believe me I've tapped the variety on the cockpits quite a bit. But even a second Hillborne helps there; it means it's very likely an ad hoc arbitrary decision to choose one of two cockpits. That's better than having to swap them out, even if it does only take 5-10 minutes to do so. So the choice depends on the (sorta kinda precise) desired mixture of the purposes. They're in order above. The Hillborne is only slightly more redundant that the Hunqapillar (fenders and tires would likely be different, maybe normal gearing?), but redundancy in general is way more important than variety. The choice isn't one vs two bikes... it's Hillborne #2 versus Hunqapillar. Not much beautiful bag money at stake, unfortunately. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On May 24, 2:11 pm, Brett Lindenbach wrote: > i still contend that the bike you choose needs to have a purpose. perhaps > variety* is* that purpose. the hunq (i would go for the bomba) would give > you a very different ride. i don't quite see the logic in getting a second > hillborne just to have another hillborne. if cockpit swapping is trivial > for you, then you already have a lot of untapped variety. > an alternative would be to simply save your money and just *love your > current bike all the more.* maybe buy it a nice beautiful bag. btw, i also > wasn't a fan of the grid grey but then i came around, and now i love it. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Decision Potential
Interesting, indeed. I have not measured my PBH myself. The nice folks at The Country Bike Shop in Celina, OH, did. (Can't say enough nice things about the Dennings and The Country Bike Shop. Nice people and a wonderful place.) I suspect theirs is comaprable to an RBW measurement. It felt like it to me! I'm 6' (probably plus a smidge) and 245. I'd say I have slightly- longer-than-average legs. So the Country Bike Shop 90 PBH sounds right to me. To me, your 6'4" - 94cm combination seems roughly consistent with my 90 PBH measurement. Did your "clearance" of the top tubes of the 64cm Hillborne and the 62cm Hunqapillar seem very similar? Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean Enjoying the problem. On May 24, 3:25 pm, Zack wrote: > I think I have something to offer here. > > I measured my own PBH to 91 cm. I went to Riv, used their method, and > got 94 cm (with someone helping, using the paint stick, and really > going for it lol). > > I am 6'3 and 240 for reference. > > I rode the 62 Hunqapillar and the 64 Hillborne. > > I ended up going with the Sam. I thought that it would be more > versatile, as I do some longer rides that I would want a bike that > feels a little more lighter and spry. I thought that the Sam would be > great for that, and wouldn't buck if I decided to go camping and ride > a bit shorter distance. > > If I were to get another Riv, the Hunqa would be at the top of my > list. It was really fun to ride, and seems like it would be a beast > on fire trails, with a full load. Just a super fun bike to ride. > > I personally would not get another Sam. > > I am, however, with you on both the diagatube and the Hunqapillar > paint job. I don't like the grey/maroon combo. I also think that > getting a custom paint job with a green or blue plus the cream would > make the bike look sweet, and would lessen the weirdness of the > diagatube somehow. I think sometimes people scoff at the aesthetics, > but, let's face it, how a bike looks (particularly a riv) is part of > the greatness. Even with all that being said, I would love to have > one of the stock hunqas. It's a really sweet bike. One of those "you > have to ride it to understand" things I think. > > I would also call Riv to ask them about the fit, they would be best > suited to answer your questions I think. > > On May 24, 1:58 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Well... it's not really that simple for me. Either of these bikes will > > completely and comfortably cover the functionality I need and want. > > Increasing my capabilities is something of an unlikely project, since > > they are limited not by the bike but its engine :) I expect to do no > > riding that I wouldn't feel perfectly comfortable doing on the > > Hunqapillar or the Hillborne. If I had them both, I might prefer one > > over the other every now and then, with most ties I'd expect to go to > > the Hillborne. I've got a prejudice; if I could end up with two of one > > and one of the other, I'd choose to have two Hillbornes and a single > > Hunqapillar. > > > To me it's more a question of: Will I appreciate the variety itself > > enough to give up near-total redundancy on the known-and-loved? I > > mean, there's always the possibility that I won't actually love the > > Hunqapillar. But I confess I've lately developed a desire to taste the > > cushy goodness and even-more-solid ride that I'd expect from a > > Hunqapillar. It's even remotely possible that I'll *prefer* it to the > > Hillborne (hard to imagine from my current perspective). > > > As a practical matter, of course, I still will have lots of redundancy > > with the Hillborne/Hunqapillar combination. I expect to be able to > > swap cockpits without problem. Most parts and accessories will be > > swappable (perhaps with tweaking) without any compromise. Fenders and > > tires probably not. And maybe the seatpost, since there's some > > possibility I won't be able to get a 27.2 seat tube on the > > Hunqapillar. And I don't know about bottom brackets. Small > > differences, but differences nonetheless. > > > So it's variety versus small compromise. I'm tending towards the > > Hunqapillar, I think. But I won't hesitate to get a Hillborne if the > > Hunqapillar doesn't fit. I haven't decided what I'm going to do if I > > can't find out about the Hunqapillar's fit. > > > Yours, > > Thomas Lynn Skean > > > On May 24, 12:02 pm, Brett Lindenbach > > wrote: > > > > thomas, you only need to answer one question: what is it you want your new > > > bike to do? > > > > if the answer is to duplicate what you already have, then go for it. i > > > should add that having an identical bike would allow you to go for rides > > > with your doppelgänger when he visits. or you could set up one hillborne > > > as > > > your commuter, and the other more for distance/light touring. > > > > personally, i'd get something that increases my capabilities. i travel a > > > lot, and often wish i had my bike with me. i might consider gett
[RBW] Re: Decision Potential
Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure that it's not as simple as 62cm - 60cm = 2cm difference in exactly what's important here, my ability to comfortably straddle the top tube. There's seat tube angle, there's rounding of published numbers, there's different effective top tube, there's inconsistency in the available specifications. That test provides some info, though. I did lift my Hillborne and I can get it maybe 2 or 3cm off the ground (more accuracy than that is not going to happen, I'm afraid). So basically it all adds up to "too close to call" without some additional real world information. First-hand experience would be great. As would any comparative information from out in the field. Say, if someone said "Hey, I own both! My Sam is sorta tight and my Hunqapillar is even tighter, but they both work for me.". Or if someone said "No way, dude. I've got both those bikes. All kinds of room on the Sam. But I had to get a 58 Hunqapillar. The 62cm was Way Too Big." Alas life is not like that so far. We should all have such problems! :) Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On May 23, 6:45 pm, newenglandbike wrote: > How 'bout a 60cm Bombadil? If not, and you can't find a local > Hunqapillar to try, consider that 2cm is not much difference at > all. But, one test would be to straddle your SH, grab the bars in > one hand and the seat in the other, and lift; then have someone take > a look at how high the wheels come off the ground. If you have an > inch or two of clearance, the HP should work. > > Anyway good luck with the choices. > > -Matt > > On May 23, 7:28 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > I've an important decision to make: 62cm Hunqapillar or a (second) 60cm > > Hillborne? > > > At least, I *may* have that decision to make. No amount of measuring will > > actually let me *know* if I can actually straddle the Hunqapillar. I have a > > nominal 90cm PBH. All the other numbers seem reasonable to me. So it is > > *possible* that I *might* be comfortable on one. I don't know. > > > So... if there's a 62cm Hunqapillar owner in the Chicago area (generously > > defined) who'd be willing to let me throw a leg over their Hunqapillar, I > > would greatly appreciate it. I wouldn't need the wheels to roll, let alone > > to actually ride it. Just to straddle it to see where the top tube lives. > > > It'd be fantastic if it proved appropriate. But it'd still be great to > > *know* if it didn't. It would eliminate any down-the-road > > missed-opportunity regrets. > > > Much as I love love love my Hillborne, I do feel slightly odd about buying > > two identical bikes. And I don't dismiss the allure of the Fatter Tire and > > Rougher Trail and Even Heavier Load. > > > Please e-mail me offline if you're willing to let me check it out. I'll > > come directly to you or meet you anywhere neutral and convenient for you. > > We could arrange it with all the notice you need. Obviously, weekends or > > evenings would be great but I'm willing to consider pretty much any time. > > I'm hoping (but not committed to) make my choice (if I actually have one) > > in July. But I'm flexible. > > > Thanks for reading, let alone considering, my request! > > > And feel free to fill this thread "online" with > > opinions/insights/experiences of having two identical bikes or multiple RBW > > bikes or comparisons/contrasts between Hillborne-like and Hunqapillar-like > > bikes. I'm interested. > > > Yours, > > Thomas Lynn Skean > > P. S. Would t'were we all had such problems! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS Atlantis, Phil Wood, Son hub, Nitto seat post...all kinds of new stuff
Shifters are sold On May 23, 1:04 pm, Andrew wrote: > Selling off my project, please check the manufacturer websites for > more info. Shipping is not included in the prices: > > 1. Atlantis 58cm Frame and Fork and Ultegra Headset. Its a Toyo built > one, can't get these anymore. Totally brand new. Still has the > seatpost insert. Has one of the nicest paintjobs I have seen on an > Atlantis. $1700 > > http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0050.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0058-1.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0054.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0057.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0053.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0052.jpg > > 2. Phil Wood Rear 135mm touring cassette hub. Brand new. 135mm spacing > and 36 holes. Best touring hub there is. $295 > > http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0042.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0044.jpg > > 3. Dynamo 700c Wheelset. Brand new. Shimano Dynamo lx front hub, lx > rear hub. 36h front and rear with Mavic A319. $250 for both. > > http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0045.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0046.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0047.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0048.jpg > > 4. Son Delux Dynamo hub. 36h silver polished. Brand new. These work > with 700c and a led light. $235 > > http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0035.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0036.jpg > > 5. Son Edelux dynamo headlight. Beautiful light, the best. $165 > > http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0038.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0037.jpg > > 6. Nitto Jaguar Seatpost. Prettiest and strongest seatpost made by > Nitto. 27.2mm width, 44 rails (standard not track) and 250mm length. > Brand new. Check out that wrapping. $125 > > http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0029.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0028.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0030.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0027.jpg > > 7. Sugino Alpina 172.5 Triple. 48-36-24. High polish sleeker version > of the XD with a wider range. Had to special order these, not sure if > you can get them anywhere. Brand New. 10 speed compatible. $175 > > http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0017-1.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0018-1.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0016-1.jpg > > 8. Panaracer 35mm tourguard, set of 2. Brand new. $45 > > http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0039.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0041.jpg > > 9. Shimano Barend shifters for 8 speed. Brand new $65 > > http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0019-2.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0020-1.jpghttp://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/akibb/IMG_0021-1.jpg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] cheap compact double
Just a heads up. Velo Orange now has the Sugino XD700 compact double crankset marked down to $75. I bought a set at $90 feeling like I got the deal of the century. Unfortunately they are out of my length, but they have 165 and 175mm still. It's a 110mm BCD 48/34. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Decision Potential
Why? On May 24, 1:25 pm, Zack wrote: > > I personally would not get another Sam. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Decision Potential
I think I have something to offer here. I measured my own PBH to 91 cm. I went to Riv, used their method, and got 94 cm (with someone helping, using the paint stick, and really going for it lol). I am 6'3 and 240 for reference. I rode the 62 Hunqapillar and the 64 Hillborne. I ended up going with the Sam. I thought that it would be more versatile, as I do some longer rides that I would want a bike that feels a little more lighter and spry. I thought that the Sam would be great for that, and wouldn't buck if I decided to go camping and ride a bit shorter distance. If I were to get another Riv, the Hunqa would be at the top of my list. It was really fun to ride, and seems like it would be a beast on fire trails, with a full load. Just a super fun bike to ride. I personally would not get another Sam. I am, however, with you on both the diagatube and the Hunqapillar paint job. I don't like the grey/maroon combo. I also think that getting a custom paint job with a green or blue plus the cream would make the bike look sweet, and would lessen the weirdness of the diagatube somehow. I think sometimes people scoff at the aesthetics, but, let's face it, how a bike looks (particularly a riv) is part of the greatness. Even with all that being said, I would love to have one of the stock hunqas. It's a really sweet bike. One of those "you have to ride it to understand" things I think. I would also call Riv to ask them about the fit, they would be best suited to answer your questions I think. On May 24, 1:58 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean wrote: > Well... it's not really that simple for me. Either of these bikes will > completely and comfortably cover the functionality I need and want. > Increasing my capabilities is something of an unlikely project, since > they are limited not by the bike but its engine :) I expect to do no > riding that I wouldn't feel perfectly comfortable doing on the > Hunqapillar or the Hillborne. If I had them both, I might prefer one > over the other every now and then, with most ties I'd expect to go to > the Hillborne. I've got a prejudice; if I could end up with two of one > and one of the other, I'd choose to have two Hillbornes and a single > Hunqapillar. > > To me it's more a question of: Will I appreciate the variety itself > enough to give up near-total redundancy on the known-and-loved? I > mean, there's always the possibility that I won't actually love the > Hunqapillar. But I confess I've lately developed a desire to taste the > cushy goodness and even-more-solid ride that I'd expect from a > Hunqapillar. It's even remotely possible that I'll *prefer* it to the > Hillborne (hard to imagine from my current perspective). > > As a practical matter, of course, I still will have lots of redundancy > with the Hillborne/Hunqapillar combination. I expect to be able to > swap cockpits without problem. Most parts and accessories will be > swappable (perhaps with tweaking) without any compromise. Fenders and > tires probably not. And maybe the seatpost, since there's some > possibility I won't be able to get a 27.2 seat tube on the > Hunqapillar. And I don't know about bottom brackets. Small > differences, but differences nonetheless. > > So it's variety versus small compromise. I'm tending towards the > Hunqapillar, I think. But I won't hesitate to get a Hillborne if the > Hunqapillar doesn't fit. I haven't decided what I'm going to do if I > can't find out about the Hunqapillar's fit. > > Yours, > Thomas Lynn Skean > > On May 24, 12:02 pm, Brett Lindenbach > wrote: > > > > > thomas, you only need to answer one question: what is it you want your new > > bike to do? > > > if the answer is to duplicate what you already have, then go for it. i > > should add that having an identical bike would allow you to go for rides > > with your doppelgänger when he visits. or you could set up one hillborne as > > your commuter, and the other more for distance/light touring. > > > personally, i'd get something that increases my capabilities. i travel a > > lot, and often wish i had my bike with me. i might consider getting a > > lightweight riv set up to break apart for travel. or maybe a fun little > > brommie. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] New Brooks Saddles and Carradice Bag For Sale
I bought one saddle for a project I never did, and took the other as part of a trade. And I received the bag as a gift. The saddles are both Brooks B-17s. They're both black, with steel rivets, and come new in their boxes. One is a standard B17 (men's) and the other is a B-17 Narrow. I ride Brooks saddles on my bike and have spares. So I don't anticipate needing either of these for a long time. The Super C Rack Trunk is made from black waxed canvas, like other Carradice bags. Its capacity is thirteen liters, which is larger than most other bags of its type. I use Carradice saddlebags, but I don't use rack trunks, which is why I'm selling this one. I'm asking 90 dollars for any of these items. Shipping is free to a USA address; if you want anything sent outside the US, let me know and I'll check on shipping costs. If you want two of these items, I'm asking 175. Or, if you want all three, you can have them for 250 dollars. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Decision Potential
thomas, you only need to answer one question: what is it you want your new bike to do? if the answer is to duplicate what you already have, then go for it. i should add that having an identical bike would allow you to go for rides with your doppelgänger when he visits. or you could set up one hillborne as your commuter, and the other more for distance/light touring. personally, i'd get something that increases my capabilities. i travel a lot, and often wish i had my bike with me. i might consider getting a lightweight riv set up to break apart for travel. or maybe a fun little brommie. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Decision Potential
Well... it's not really that simple for me. Either of these bikes will completely and comfortably cover the functionality I need and want. Increasing my capabilities is something of an unlikely project, since they are limited not by the bike but its engine :) I expect to do no riding that I wouldn't feel perfectly comfortable doing on the Hunqapillar or the Hillborne. If I had them both, I might prefer one over the other every now and then, with most ties I'd expect to go to the Hillborne. I've got a prejudice; if I could end up with two of one and one of the other, I'd choose to have two Hillbornes and a single Hunqapillar. To me it's more a question of: Will I appreciate the variety itself enough to give up near-total redundancy on the known-and-loved? I mean, there's always the possibility that I won't actually love the Hunqapillar. But I confess I've lately developed a desire to taste the cushy goodness and even-more-solid ride that I'd expect from a Hunqapillar. It's even remotely possible that I'll *prefer* it to the Hillborne (hard to imagine from my current perspective). As a practical matter, of course, I still will have lots of redundancy with the Hillborne/Hunqapillar combination. I expect to be able to swap cockpits without problem. Most parts and accessories will be swappable (perhaps with tweaking) without any compromise. Fenders and tires probably not. And maybe the seatpost, since there's some possibility I won't be able to get a 27.2 seat tube on the Hunqapillar. And I don't know about bottom brackets. Small differences, but differences nonetheless. So it's variety versus small compromise. I'm tending towards the Hunqapillar, I think. But I won't hesitate to get a Hillborne if the Hunqapillar doesn't fit. I haven't decided what I'm going to do if I can't find out about the Hunqapillar's fit. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On May 24, 12:02 pm, Brett Lindenbach wrote: > thomas, you only need to answer one question: what is it you want your new > bike to do? > > if the answer is to duplicate what you already have, then go for it. i > should add that having an identical bike would allow you to go for rides > with your doppelgänger when he visits. or you could set up one hillborne as > your commuter, and the other more for distance/light touring. > > personally, i'd get something that increases my capabilities. i travel a > lot, and often wish i had my bike with me. i might consider getting a > lightweight riv set up to break apart for travel. or maybe a fun little > brommie. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Parts
used. has a little scratch on it from the BB cable guide mounting bolt. other than that its incredibly butter smooth. Only used about 400 miles or so. On May 24, 9:18 am, doug peterson wrote: > Is the BB new? > > dougP > > On May 23, 12:57 pm, williwoods wrote: > > > > > Cages: Nitto R and Electra/Nitto knockoff cage $40 for Nitto $10 for > > Electra > > Front Der: Shimano Ultegra $20 > > BB: IRD sealed 68x113 $15 > > Headset: Cane Creek Classic 100 1" $70 > > Rear Der: Shimano Ultegra High normal $65 > > Crank arms: Stronglight 170mm no rings $35 > > >http://www.flickr.com/photos/willhrtn/sets/72157625721858877/ > > > ask for pics of the crank arms if interested, they are in great shape. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Decision Potential
At this point the Bombadil just feels too pricey. I can't claim that I'm too "fiscally responsible" to go with a Bombadil. But I am that fiscally wimpy. That's $700-$1,100 worth of bags or racks or dynamo wheels/lights or dreamy tires or bags (I do love bags) or rugged 40-hole-Phil/Dyad/FW rear wheels or leather tape... ...you get the idea. I may spring for a paint job up front for the potential Hunqapillar or Hillborne, so the actual difference wouldn't necessarily be just the frameset price difference. I love the Hillborne orange, don't love the Hillborne green, and thus *may* spring for a different color just to avoid having two literally identical frames. And as for the Hunqapillar... ...well, I'm sorry it's rare that I feel this way about stuff RBW produces... but that paint job is *not* attractive to me. At all. There. I said it. It's right there with the grid grey bags. And the diaga-tube. That's pretty much it for RBW stuff that I don't like the look of. And I don't proclaim them to be "bad art" or anything. I don't know from art. They simply don't appeal to me. I should say... the diaga-tube I trust to be an actual improvement in the frame's strength. Which I am very happy to have, weighing 245. And if the cost of that is (to me) a not-so-big-deal aesthetic compromise, I'll take the strength any day. I'll look at it all day long and see nothing but the strength. But even with the Hunqapillar it's not a given that I'll get it re- painted. Looks do matter to me. But they really fade in importance when you ride a bike like the Hillborne. And eventually, though I won't come to like the look of the Hunqapillar itself, I will associate its unique appearance with the miles I enjoy riding it. I mean... I drive a Honda Fit. The thing is really kind of silly looking. But now when I look at it, I see and appreciate the things we've used it for, and not the boxy brick-like profile. It's not that I now like the way it looks. It's that now the way it looks is simply part of *it*, for which I have developed my great appreciation. But... if I do get my new bike painted... it'll almost certainly be the color of the Hillborne wearing the silver Longboard fenders on the RBW web-site. I'm told it's called "Mary's Blue". And I think it'd be even more gorgeous on a Hunqapillar. http://www.rivbike.com/products/show/sks-longboard-fenders/27-014 Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On May 24, 10:17 am, Leslie wrote: > Another vote for a Bomba. > > On May 23, 7:45 pm, newenglandbike wrote: > > > > > > > > > How 'bout a 60cm Bombadil? If not, and you can't find a local > > Hunqapillar to try, consider that 2cm is not much difference at > > all. But, one test would be to straddle your SH, grab the bars in > > one hand and the seat in the other, and lift; then have someone take > > a look at how high the wheels come off the ground. If you have an > > inch or two of clearance, the HP should work. > > > Anyway good luck with the choices. > > > -Matt > > > On May 23, 7:28 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean > > wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > > I've an important decision to make: 62cm Hunqapillar or a (second) 60cm > > > Hillborne? > > > > At least, I *may* have that decision to make. No amount of measuring will > > > actually let me *know* if I can actually straddle the Hunqapillar. I have > > > a nominal 90cm PBH. All the other numbers seem reasonable to me. So it is > > > *possible* that I *might* be comfortable on one. I don't know. > > > > So... if there's a 62cm Hunqapillar owner in the Chicago area (generously > > > defined) who'd be willing to let me throw a leg over their Hunqapillar, I > > > would greatly appreciate it. I wouldn't need the wheels to roll, let > > > alone to actually ride it. Just to straddle it to see where the top tube > > > lives. > > > > It'd be fantastic if it proved appropriate. But it'd still be great to > > > *know* if it didn't. It would eliminate any down-the-road > > > missed-opportunity regrets. > > > > Much as I love love love my Hillborne, I do feel slightly odd about > > > buying two identical bikes. And I don't dismiss the allure of the Fatter > > > Tire and Rougher Trail and Even Heavier Load. > > > > Please e-mail me offline if you're willing to let me check it out. I'll > > > come directly to you or meet you anywhere neutral and convenient for you. > > > We could arrange it with all the notice you need. Obviously, weekends or > > > evenings would be great but I'm willing to consider pretty much any time. > > > I'm hoping (but not committed to) make my choice (if I actually have one) > > > in July. But I'm flexible. > > > > Thanks for reading, let alone considering, my request! > > > > And feel free to fill this thread "online" with > > > opinions/insights/experiences of having two identical bikes or multiple > > > RBW bikes or comparisons/contrasts between Hillborne-like and > > > Hunqapillar-like bikes. I'm interested. > > > > Yours, > > > Thomas Lynn Skean > > > P.
[RBW] Re: Decision Potential
Oh, you can bet they'll be set up with various arrangements at various times, probably rarely the same. I've got four ready-to-go cockpits now (Alba, Moustache, Noodle, tall Bullmoose 150), one not-so-ready-to- go (normal Bullmoose 150). And I have two more in mind (bar-end Silvers Alba; current one is Thumbie/Shimano) and another Bullmoose (200mm, to become tall Bullmoose while 150 becomes normal Bullmoose). One area which I won't vary is to fender or not; both bikes will wear fenders at all times. Which kind of matters, because that means that if I choose to go with 2 Hillbornes, I'll be limited to 700x40 tires (I'm not comfortable with less fender clearance than that). That's fine but not ideal. The kind of riding I do does not *require* fatter tires. But having one fatter-tired bike would be another level of variety without compromise. Yours, Thomas Lynn Skean On May 23, 11:34 pm, Philip Williamson wrote: > My vote would be two non-identical Hillbornes. It would be interesting > (for me) to (have you) set up the same frame for different purposes. > One smooth road, one roughstuff. > > Philip > > Philip Williamsonwww.biketinker.com > > On May 23, 4:28 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > I've an important decision to make: 62cm Hunqapillar or a (second) 60cm > > Hillborne? > > > At least, I *may* have that decision to make. No amount of measuring will > > actually let me *know* if I can actually straddle the Hunqapillar. I have a > > nominal 90cm PBH. All the other numbers seem reasonable to me. So it is > > *possible* that I *might* be comfortable on one. I don't know. > > > So... if there's a 62cm Hunqapillar owner in the Chicago area (generously > > defined) who'd be willing to let me throw a leg over their Hunqapillar, I > > would greatly appreciate it. I wouldn't need the wheels to roll, let alone > > to actually ride it. Just to straddle it to see where the top tube lives. > > > It'd be fantastic if it proved appropriate. But it'd still be great to > > *know* if it didn't. It would eliminate any down-the-road > > missed-opportunity regrets. > > > Much as I love love love my Hillborne, I do feel slightly odd about buying > > two identical bikes. And I don't dismiss the allure of the Fatter Tire and > > Rougher Trail and Even Heavier Load. > > > Please e-mail me offline if you're willing to let me check it out. I'll > > come directly to you or meet you anywhere neutral and convenient for you. > > We could arrange it with all the notice you need. Obviously, weekends or > > evenings would be great but I'm willing to consider pretty much any time. > > I'm hoping (but not committed to) make my choice (if I actually have one) > > in July. But I'm flexible. > > > Thanks for reading, let alone considering, my request! > > > And feel free to fill this thread "online" with > > opinions/insights/experiences of having two identical bikes or multiple RBW > > bikes or comparisons/contrasts between Hillborne-like and Hunqapillar-like > > bikes. I'm interested. > > > Yours, > > Thomas Lynn Skean > > P. S. Would t'were we all had such problems! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell influence - Maybe the racer crowd is getting it?!!
Obviously at least one of the reasons. On May 24, 7:16 am, eflayer wrote: > i own a Rambouillet and a Fisher Cronus. is that why i am still stuck > on earth after 6 pm last saturday? > > On May 24, 7:11 am, Michael_S wrote: > > > > > > > > > If it's still carbon they didn't get the message. I wish Fisher still > > made steel bikes; the other two models are alu-min-numb. > > > Also I would like to point out that some Rivendell owners like riding > > fast and even race. They just appreciate beautiful steel bicycles with > > lugs. > > > ~mike > > > On May 24, 4:22 am, Jay LePree wrote: > > > > Hi all: > > > > I had to pick up some tubes at my LBS which sell Trek bikes. Trek has > > > the standard 520 model and some other commuting models, but I was > > > surprised to see the Gary Fisher Cronus. The owner called my attention > > > to it because he knows my preference for higher handlebars, fenders, > > > 28 mm wide (or wider) tires. > > > > The Cronus is a CF racing bike with a taller head tube, and "vanishing > > > fender mounts" that can be screwed in and out. The bike comes with > > > Sheldon Fender nuts already installed in the back of the brakes so the > > > user can attach fenders without removing the brakes. I put in my > > > front wheel that has a Ruffy Tuffy, and it cleared without any > > > problem. Interesting take on a racer. I imagine that there was some > > > Rivendell influence there. > > > > Jay > > > Demarest, NJ- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell influence - Maybe the racer crowd is getting it?!!
Nice comparo! On May 24, 9:28 am, eflayer wrote: > there is no comparison between the Rambouillet and the Cronus except > maybe two things; they both take fenders and the Cronus has a tall > enough headtube and a long enough fork steerer tube to almost enable > matching the bar height on the Riv. Riv is 58 with upjutting Salsa > quill. Cronus is a 58 with 215 headtube, 5cm of spacers, and 102 > degree stem. > > After that they are quite different. Steep angles, high bb, short > chainstays on the Cronus. Riv is spingy in a good way by comparision > and Cronus seems to fly by comparison. Cronus carbon is stiff and > slightly not forgiving, but is probably 7 lbs lighter than the coupled > Riv. > > Riv goes bouncy bounce over bumps, Cronus goes cerchunk! I like the > Cronus plenty and have enjoyed its lightness of being. Don't care > about fenders on a carbon bike and would like to try a Specialized > Roubaix as I think it is closer in geo to my sweet Riv geo. > > On May 24, 8:20 am, Zac wrote: > > > > > > > > > Fisher does still make steel bikes. They make a cyclocross bike called > > the "Presidio". It's made out of True Temper OX platinum and is very > > similar to the Lemond Poprad. Plenty o' clearance and canti brakes. > > > Zac > > > On May 24, 7:11 am, Michael_S wrote: > > > > If it's still carbon they didn't get the message. I wish Fisher still > > > made steel bikes; the other two models are alu-min-numb. > > > > Also I would like to point out that some Rivendell owners like riding > > > fast and even race. They just appreciate beautiful steel bicycles with > > > lugs. > > > > ~mike > > > > On May 24, 4:22 am, Jay LePree wrote: > > > > > Hi all: > > > > > I had to pick up some tubes at my LBS which sell Trek bikes. Trek has > > > > the standard 520 model and some other commuting models, but I was > > > > surprised to see the Gary Fisher Cronus. The owner called my attention > > > > to it because he knows my preference for higher handlebars, fenders, > > > > 28 mm wide (or wider) tires. > > > > > The Cronus is a CF racing bike with a taller head tube, and "vanishing > > > > fender mounts" that can be screwed in and out. The bike comes with > > > > Sheldon Fender nuts already installed in the back of the brakes so the > > > > user can attach fenders without removing the brakes. I put in my > > > > front wheel that has a Ruffy Tuffy, and it cleared without any > > > > problem. Interesting take on a racer. I imagine that there was some > > > > Rivendell influence there. > > > > > Jay > > > > Demarest, NJ- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell influence - Maybe the racer crowd is getting it?!!
there is no comparison between the Rambouillet and the Cronus except maybe two things; they both take fenders and the Cronus has a tall enough headtube and a long enough fork steerer tube to almost enable matching the bar height on the Riv. Riv is 58 with upjutting Salsa quill. Cronus is a 58 with 215 headtube, 5cm of spacers, and 102 degree stem. After that they are quite different. Steep angles, high bb, short chainstays on the Cronus. Riv is spingy in a good way by comparision and Cronus seems to fly by comparison. Cronus carbon is stiff and slightly not forgiving, but is probably 7 lbs lighter than the coupled Riv. Riv goes bouncy bounce over bumps, Cronus goes cerchunk! I like the Cronus plenty and have enjoyed its lightness of being. Don't care about fenders on a carbon bike and would like to try a Specialized Roubaix as I think it is closer in geo to my sweet Riv geo. On May 24, 8:20 am, Zac wrote: > Fisher does still make steel bikes. They make a cyclocross bike called > the "Presidio". It's made out of True Temper OX platinum and is very > similar to the Lemond Poprad. Plenty o' clearance and canti brakes. > > Zac > > On May 24, 7:11 am, Michael_S wrote: > > > > > If it's still carbon they didn't get the message. I wish Fisher still > > made steel bikes; the other two models are alu-min-numb. > > > Also I would like to point out that some Rivendell owners like riding > > fast and even race. They just appreciate beautiful steel bicycles with > > lugs. > > > ~mike > > > On May 24, 4:22 am, Jay LePree wrote: > > > > Hi all: > > > > I had to pick up some tubes at my LBS which sell Trek bikes. Trek has > > > the standard 520 model and some other commuting models, but I was > > > surprised to see the Gary Fisher Cronus. The owner called my attention > > > to it because he knows my preference for higher handlebars, fenders, > > > 28 mm wide (or wider) tires. > > > > The Cronus is a CF racing bike with a taller head tube, and "vanishing > > > fender mounts" that can be screwed in and out. The bike comes with > > > Sheldon Fender nuts already installed in the back of the brakes so the > > > user can attach fenders without removing the brakes. I put in my > > > front wheel that has a Ruffy Tuffy, and it cleared without any > > > problem. Interesting take on a racer. I imagine that there was some > > > Rivendell influence there. > > > > Jay > > > Demarest, NJ- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: FS: Parts
Is the BB new? dougP On May 23, 12:57 pm, williwoods wrote: > Cages: Nitto R and Electra/Nitto knockoff cage $40 for Nitto $10 for > Electra > Front Der: Shimano Ultegra $20 > BB: IRD sealed 68x113 $15 > Headset: Cane Creek Classic 100 1" $70 > Rear Der: Shimano Ultegra High normal $65 > Crank arms: Stronglight 170mm no rings $35 > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/willhrtn/sets/72157625721858877/ > > ask for pics of the crank arms if interested, they are in great shape. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Inquiry re Sagging Selle AnAtomica
Mine appeared to sag fast also. It is also very squeaky. I surmised that with the squeaks and the fast sagging I was actually inadvertently turning the adjustment bolt inward as I rode! I screwed the bolt all the way in to detach the nose from the bolt head, removed the bolt, heated it slightly with a torch and dipped it in bees wax. It does not move as readily and the squeak is mostly gone. The saddle is on my rigid SS 29er. I weight 170. I opted for the clydesdale with water shed as the saddle regularly gets wet from above and below and gets pounded pretty hard offroad! It has held up admirably over the two years I have ridden it on a fairly regular basis (fun and race mtb) I also have one on my fendered commuter that has many more miles than the mtb. Same wax treatment to the bolt. I may try to find a fixing nut for the adjuster bolt. BTW - regarding Selle AnAtomica the company - Do any of you find it curious that their web page makes no mention of the founder's untimely death? I would expect that they would at least create a page dedicated to his legacy... On May 23, 11:26 pm, reynoldslugs wrote: > After just a few rides on a brand-new Selle Anatomica, it looks like > our old mule (Gladys) with a deeply swayed back. The manufacturer's > website seems to say, don't worry about the way this looks, just > tighten it up a bit at a time until it's comfortable. > > I'm willing to follow the manufacturer's advice, but i'm pretty > certain I've never seen a leather saddle sag and splay like this > anytime in the last 30+ years of riding Ideales and Brooks. Moreover, > I have what is supposed to be the identical saddle (different color) > on my Roadeo, and have not had any sagging at all. > > Anyone else experience this with the Anatomicas, or have words of > advice/wisdom? > > FWIW, I'm a Clyde and this is their Clyde model, ostensibly. > > thanks. > RL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell influence - Maybe the racer crowd is getting it?!!
Fisher does still make steel bikes. They make a cyclocross bike called the "Presidio". It's made out of True Temper OX platinum and is very similar to the Lemond Poprad. Plenty o' clearance and canti brakes. Zac On May 24, 7:11 am, Michael_S wrote: > If it's still carbon they didn't get the message. I wish Fisher still > made steel bikes; the other two models are alu-min-numb. > > Also I would like to point out that some Rivendell owners like riding > fast and even race. They just appreciate beautiful steel bicycles with > lugs. > > ~mike > > On May 24, 4:22 am, Jay LePree wrote: > > > Hi all: > > > I had to pick up some tubes at my LBS which sell Trek bikes. Trek has > > the standard 520 model and some other commuting models, but I was > > surprised to see the Gary Fisher Cronus. The owner called my attention > > to it because he knows my preference for higher handlebars, fenders, > > 28 mm wide (or wider) tires. > > > The Cronus is a CF racing bike with a taller head tube, and "vanishing > > fender mounts" that can be screwed in and out. The bike comes with > > Sheldon Fender nuts already installed in the back of the brakes so the > > user can attach fenders without removing the brakes. I put in my > > front wheel that has a Ruffy Tuffy, and it cleared without any > > problem. Interesting take on a racer. I imagine that there was some > > Rivendell influence there. > > > Jay > > Demarest, NJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Repair Manual
I will agree with what the others have said and add: "Bicycling Magazine's Complete Book of Bicycle Maintenance and Repair" It is great to have a paper book sometimes so the computer does not get greasy keys. Pick up a copy at the used book store, look for something printed before the mid 90's and it will have the most relavant info for your Riv Bike IMO. I still have mine from college and have used it more over the years then some of the others. Rob - http://oceanaircycles.com/ On May 23, 6:52 pm, "Darin G." wrote: > After a year of subscribing to this group I've decided to address some > of my inadequacies head on and do some, if not most of my own > maintenance. I'm not necessarily handy, but clever enough, willing to > buy the tools, and I figure if I can build a fly rod or tie a classic > Atlantic salmon fly (which I can do, and do well), I can adjust a > hub. Besides, you all inspire me. Thank you. > > That said, I do need a good reference manual. I'm interested to see > if there's a consensus amongst the tribe as to a solid reference for > maintaining my Sam (nom de guerre: "Ramble-Rounder"). -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell influence - Maybe the racer crowd is getting it?!!
On May 24, 10:16 am, eflayer wrote: > i own a Rambouillet and a Fisher Cronus. is that why i am still stuck > on earth after 6 pm last saturday? So... how about a brief compare/contrast on those two?? :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Decision Potential
Another vote for a Bomba. On May 23, 7:45 pm, newenglandbike wrote: > How 'bout a 60cm Bombadil? If not, and you can't find a local > Hunqapillar to try, consider that 2cm is not much difference at > all. But, one test would be to straddle your SH, grab the bars in > one hand and the seat in the other, and lift; then have someone take > a look at how high the wheels come off the ground. If you have an > inch or two of clearance, the HP should work. > > Anyway good luck with the choices. > > -Matt > > On May 23, 7:28 pm, Thomas Lynn Skean > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi! > > > I've an important decision to make: 62cm Hunqapillar or a (second) 60cm > > Hillborne? > > > At least, I *may* have that decision to make. No amount of measuring will > > actually let me *know* if I can actually straddle the Hunqapillar. I have a > > nominal 90cm PBH. All the other numbers seem reasonable to me. So it is > > *possible* that I *might* be comfortable on one. I don't know. > > > So... if there's a 62cm Hunqapillar owner in the Chicago area (generously > > defined) who'd be willing to let me throw a leg over their Hunqapillar, I > > would greatly appreciate it. I wouldn't need the wheels to roll, let alone > > to actually ride it. Just to straddle it to see where the top tube lives. > > > It'd be fantastic if it proved appropriate. But it'd still be great to > > *know* if it didn't. It would eliminate any down-the-road > > missed-opportunity regrets. > > > Much as I love love love my Hillborne, I do feel slightly odd about buying > > two identical bikes. And I don't dismiss the allure of the Fatter Tire and > > Rougher Trail and Even Heavier Load. > > > Please e-mail me offline if you're willing to let me check it out. I'll > > come directly to you or meet you anywhere neutral and convenient for you. > > We could arrange it with all the notice you need. Obviously, weekends or > > evenings would be great but I'm willing to consider pretty much any time. > > I'm hoping (but not committed to) make my choice (if I actually have one) > > in July. But I'm flexible. > > > Thanks for reading, let alone considering, my request! > > > And feel free to fill this thread "online" with > > opinions/insights/experiences of having two identical bikes or multiple RBW > > bikes or comparisons/contrasts between Hillborne-like and Hunqapillar-like > > bikes. I'm interested. > > > Yours, > > Thomas Lynn Skean > > P. S. Would t'were we all had such problems! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell influence - Maybe the racer crowd is getting it?!!
i own a Rambouillet and a Fisher Cronus. is that why i am still stuck on earth after 6 pm last saturday? On May 24, 7:11 am, Michael_S wrote: > If it's still carbon they didn't get the message. I wish Fisher still > made steel bikes; the other two models are alu-min-numb. > > Also I would like to point out that some Rivendell owners like riding > fast and even race. They just appreciate beautiful steel bicycles with > lugs. > > ~mike > > On May 24, 4:22 am, Jay LePree wrote: > > > > > Hi all: > > > I had to pick up some tubes at my LBS which sell Trek bikes. Trek has > > the standard 520 model and some other commuting models, but I was > > surprised to see the Gary Fisher Cronus. The owner called my attention > > to it because he knows my preference for higher handlebars, fenders, > > 28 mm wide (or wider) tires. > > > The Cronus is a CF racing bike with a taller head tube, and "vanishing > > fender mounts" that can be screwed in and out. The bike comes with > > Sheldon Fender nuts already installed in the back of the brakes so the > > user can attach fenders without removing the brakes. I put in my > > front wheel that has a Ruffy Tuffy, and it cleared without any > > problem. Interesting take on a racer. I imagine that there was some > > Rivendell influence there. > > > Jay > > Demarest, NJ- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Inquiry re Sagging Selle AnAtomica
You can't expect the SA to act like a Brooks, it's not supposed to. It fits like a hammock. As long as you're not bouncing off of the top of the seatpost, it's not overstretched. Whether that's a feeling you like or not is up to you. I weigh 180, and mine is a non-Clyde. The sag stabilized with the bolt about 2/3 of the way out. I found I had too much inner thigh friction on mine, so I laced the skirts in. I also had to widen the slot (per the directions) to keep the rear flaps from overlapping. Bill On May 23, 9:26 pm, reynoldslugs wrote: > After just a few rides on a brand-new Selle Anatomica, it looks like > our old mule (Gladys) with a deeply swayed back. The manufacturer's > website seems to say, don't worry about the way this looks, just > tighten it up a bit at a time until it's comfortable. > > I'm willing to follow the manufacturer's advice, but i'm pretty > certain I've never seen a leather saddle sag and splay like this > anytime in the last 30+ years of riding Ideales and Brooks. Moreover, > I have what is supposed to be the identical saddle (different color) > on my Roadeo, and have not had any sagging at all. > > Anyone else experience this with the Anatomicas, or have words of > advice/wisdom? > > FWIW, I'm a Clyde and this is their Clyde model, ostensibly. > > thanks. > RL -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Rivendell influence - Maybe the racer crowd is getting it?!!
If it's still carbon they didn't get the message. I wish Fisher still made steel bikes; the other two models are alu-min-numb. Also I would like to point out that some Rivendell owners like riding fast and even race. They just appreciate beautiful steel bicycles with lugs. ~mike On May 24, 4:22 am, Jay LePree wrote: > Hi all: > > I had to pick up some tubes at my LBS which sell Trek bikes. Trek has > the standard 520 model and some other commuting models, but I was > surprised to see the Gary Fisher Cronus. The owner called my attention > to it because he knows my preference for higher handlebars, fenders, > 28 mm wide (or wider) tires. > > The Cronus is a CF racing bike with a taller head tube, and "vanishing > fender mounts" that can be screwed in and out. The bike comes with > Sheldon Fender nuts already installed in the back of the brakes so the > user can attach fenders without removing the brakes. I put in my > front wheel that has a Ruffy Tuffy, and it cleared without any > problem. Interesting take on a racer. I imagine that there was some > Rivendell influence there. > > Jay > Demarest, NJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Repair Manual
I'll second the Zinn book, mine's old, but bike tech, especially what we talk about here, hasn't changed much in the last 30 years. you can find all of this info online now, but being able to sit down with a paper book and walk through it over a cup of coffee is helpful for me. my best suggestion is just use your common sense, if it feels wrong, go over the instructions again to see if you missed something. as a beginner the only thing i think you'll find hard is the headset adjustments, everything else is now cartidge based to simplify installation. On May 23, 10:03 pm, omnigrid wrote: > I like Zinn's road bike maintenance book. Get this along with the Park book > and you should be good. > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Darin G. wrote: > > After a year of subscribing to this group I've decided to address some > > of my inadequacies head on and do some, if not most of my own > > maintenance. I'm not necessarily handy, but clever enough, willing to > > buy the tools, and I figure if I can build a fly rod or tie a classic > > Atlantic salmon fly (which I can do, and do well), I can adjust a > > hub. Besides, you all inspire me. Thank you. > > > That said, I do need a good reference manual. I'm interested to see > > if there's a consensus amongst the tribe as to a solid reference for > > maintaining my Sam (nom de guerre: "Ramble-Rounder"). > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "RBW Owners Bunch" group. > > To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Re: Inquiry re Sagging Selle AnAtomica
Pictures anyone? I'd like to see how severe this is (being a longtime, well for me, brooks rider) On May 24, 7:11 am, Steve Palincsar wrote: > On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 21:26 -0700, reynoldslugs wrote: > > > I'm willing to follow the manufacturer's advice, but i'm pretty > > certain I've never seen a leather saddle sag and splay like this > > anytime in the last 30+ years of riding Ideales and Brooks. > > True, the Selle AnAtomicas do sag in a way that you don't see on Ideales > and Brooks. That is entirely typical. Some folks love the splayed out > sagged hammock feel, others do not. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
[RBW] Rivendell influence - Maybe the racer crowd is getting it?!!
Hi all: I had to pick up some tubes at my LBS which sell Trek bikes. Trek has the standard 520 model and some other commuting models, but I was surprised to see the Gary Fisher Cronus. The owner called my attention to it because he knows my preference for higher handlebars, fenders, 28 mm wide (or wider) tires. The Cronus is a CF racing bike with a taller head tube, and "vanishing fender mounts" that can be screwed in and out. The bike comes with Sheldon Fender nuts already installed in the back of the brakes so the user can attach fenders without removing the brakes. I put in my front wheel that has a Ruffy Tuffy, and it cleared without any problem. Interesting take on a racer. I imagine that there was some Rivendell influence there. Jay Demarest, NJ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
Re: [RBW] Inquiry re Sagging Selle AnAtomica
On Mon, 2011-05-23 at 21:26 -0700, reynoldslugs wrote: > > I'm willing to follow the manufacturer's advice, but i'm pretty > certain I've never seen a leather saddle sag and splay like this > anytime in the last 30+ years of riding Ideales and Brooks. True, the Selle AnAtomicas do sag in a way that you don't see on Ideales and Brooks. That is entirely typical. Some folks love the splayed out sagged hammock feel, others do not. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en.
