Re: CS>***Eye Solution Treatment for dogs

1999-06-06 Thread Reid Smith
>My dog is recently diagnosed with glaucoma. Not one to take a
>conventional diagnosis, and having read in some of my alternative
>books that glaucoma can be from infection, would you have an idea what
>drops are used for this? I read this recently on a list but cannot
>remember which list. I am desparate to find a solution. The vet kept
>remarking how her symptoms did not fit glaucoma BUT. Thanks Deb   
>-- 

  CS cured one persons very ill dog of cataracs but the dog was too far
gone to save.
Take Care 

Reid



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Re: cs use

1999-06-06 Thread Reid Smith
>I have 100 mixed trees on 1 acre- semi dwarf.  I needed only one half gallon
>to spray all . After 2 applications the fungus on the peach trees was gone.A
>good reference is http://cygnus.tamu.edu/Texlab/tpdh.  Kevorkian For White
>House Physician.  Jolly


   Here's another possable cure for fungus. Two teaspoons of baking soda
and one of vegatable oil in a quart or so of water. Spray every 12-14 days.


Take Care 

Reid



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Re: CS>question on autoimmune disease

1999-06-06 Thread Harvey Flatbush
At 10:42 PM 6/6/99 -0400, you wrote:
>It is not in the index.  Is it known by any other name?
>
>Marshall
>
>teri...@aol.com wrote:
>
>>  Does anyone know if vitiligo is discussed in the hulda clark book...or
if it
>> is thought to be a virus that cs might possibly take care of? my husband
>> seems to have it..and l am wondering about the zappers for treatment.
>> thankyou teri.
>>

Neither Vitiligo nor Leukoderma/Leukoderma are found in Hulda's books, A
Cure for all diseases or A Cure for all Cancers, however it does seem to
fall in line with some diseases that are helped by CS.

Vitiligo (Leukoderma) § Eczema § Pyoderma § Tuberculosis § Warts § Dermatitis 
§ Gastrointestinal Disease § Respiratory Disease § Skin Disease§ Problem
Disease
§ Kidney Diseases§ Chronic Diseases§ Children Disorders§ 
http://www.classicalhomoeopathy.com/cases.htm

Leucoderma (Vitiligo) is a chronic pigmentary skin disorder that finds a
promising treatment with homeopathy. Homeopathy is slightly lesser known
but rapidly growing alternative health therapy.
http://www.leucoderma.com/


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Re: CS>question on autoimmune disease

1999-06-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
It is not in the index.  Is it known by any other name?

Marshall

teri...@aol.com wrote:

>  Does anyone know if vitiligo is discussed in the hulda clark book...or if it
> is thought to be a virus that cs might possibly take care of? my husband
> seems to have it..and l am wondering about the zappers for treatment.
> thankyou teri.
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Re: CS>***Eye Solution Treatment for dogs

1999-06-06 Thread Vilik Rapheles
At 08:32 PM 6/6/99 -0500, you wrote:
>My dog is recently diagnosed with glaucoma. Not one to take a
>conventional diagnosis, and having read in some of my alternative
>books that glaucoma can be from infection, would you have an idea what
>drops are used for this? I read this recently on a list but cannot
>remember which list. I am desparate to find a solution. The vet kept
>remarking how her symptoms did not fit glaucoma BUT. Thanks Deb   
>-- 
>A few people on another list used melatonin, (internally), and it worked.
(Don't know dose...)

You could use it with eyedrops of silver or whatever you decide on...

~^^V^^~

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CS>question on autoimmune disease

1999-06-06 Thread Teri323
 Does anyone know if vitiligo is discussed in the hulda clark book...or if it 
is thought to be a virus that cs might possibly take care of? my husband 
seems to have it..and l am wondering about the zappers for treatment. 
thankyou teri.


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CS>***Eye Solution Treatment for dogs

1999-06-06 Thread Debbie McDonald
My dog is recently diagnosed with glaucoma. Not one to take a
conventional diagnosis, and having read in some of my alternative
books that glaucoma can be from infection, would you have an idea what
drops are used for this? I read this recently on a list but cannot
remember which list. I am desparate to find a solution. The vet kept
remarking how her symptoms did not fit glaucoma BUT. Thanks Deb   
-- 


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  mailto:lullw...@flash.net


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Re: CS>Grapefruit Seed Extract

1999-06-06 Thread Trish Tancredi
Hi. I use grapefruitseed extrasct.  You can get i it at vitaminshoppe.com
It costs about 10 dollars or less for 100 tabs.  I give myself and my hubby
2 tabs 3-4x a day.  So far it is working for lyme disease.   It cured my
baby of her ear infections and  so far her lyme seems t be in remission too.
Lyme  is much more difficult to rid of so it  should work on staph. good
luck. It is called nutribiotic brand grapefruitseed extract. You can also
get it at a vitaminshoppe store near you. That is where I got mine. best 10
bucks I ever spent. TRISH
-Original Message-
From: wong...@aol.com 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Date: Sunday, June 06, 1999 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Grapefruit Seed Extract


>In a message dated 6/6/99 8:43:06 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
>t...@silvergen.com writes:
>
><< Thanks Rick.  I subscribe to Dr. Williams newsletter and have some of
the
> grapefruit seed extract.   Hadn't thought about suggesting its use because
I
> was locked into CS.  It may be much better because it has more exposure
and
> trials.  I'll pursue that avenue for our friend.  She's going in for more
> surgery and they have to try to rid her of the staph before cutting.
>
> Trem Williams >>
>
>Trem
>
>Could you tell me where to purchase GFSE? Dr. Williams won't divulge his
>"reputable" source unless you suscribe to his newsletter. Would you
>reccommend subscription?
>Wong
>
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Re: CS>Grapefruit Seed Extract

1999-06-06 Thread FEDTOLEDO
Hi list,
I've been using Grapefruit Seed Extract (GSE) for a little while.  I'm
experimenting with what the CS and the GSE will do, as they both are
supposed to be antiviral, antibacterial and antifungal.

I tried to cure a chronic upper respiratory condition back in
February/March, but I can't say either one really seemed to work.  I'm not
sure I took enough of either to do the trick, but I am still using them
both.   

I have been trying to get rid of what the vet says is likely a precancerous
skin condition on my cat's pink nose.  First I used the CS topically, then
the GSE, then hydrogen peroxide.The CS got rid of most but one stubborn
spot(they start out looking like a freckle, and eventually turn in to a
raised scab that keeps growing, then another freckle appears next to the
first, and grows too, etc., etc.) that had been there for months, the GSE
got rid of that, but then the spots started coming back,  the Hydrogen
Perxoide seems to be getting rid of the new spots that came back, but I
just starting using it a week ago, so the spots are not gone yet,  we'll
see what happens next.  

I am not aware of anyone making any claims or testimonials that GSE or CS
work on skin cancer or precancerous skin conditions, but my cat and I are
undaunted.  I would rather give all of these a try, before I start having
the vet burn them off, over and over.  

Besides the topical treatments, I started supplementing my cat's diet with
both CS and GSE, in rotation.   So this is a most unscientific experiment,
for sure.At the same time, I am somewhat amazed that any of these
things may be reducing or completely getting rid of the spots at all.  

I buy the Citricidal from www.nutriteam.com.   It is 2x the strength of
Nutribiotic, also sold at this websit.  Incidently, I just bought the
Dental Gel and love it over any of the natural toothpastes without flouride
that I have tried.GSE makes your teeth feel great, but I understand it
can remove enamel or something if used in to great a dosage, so I just use
the Dental Gel, and occasionally use a rinse with aloe vera and just a
little of the Citricidal in it. 

The GSE works great diluted in aloe vera for skin and facial complextion.  
 CS worked just as good, but I am just getting around, after a few weeks on
this list, to deciding which CS product to buy by the gallon.   The
problems with CS is it costs way to much to purchase in the Health Food
Store, and no matter where you purchase it, there seem to be a general and
consistent problem with getting the ppm advertised.   

They have many products offered at this website with GSE in it.   I've only
ordered once from them, but the service was very good, sent a couple of
emails regarding the product first, and I am happy with my order.It's a
lot cheaper than the Health food store too!

Diana 

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> To: silver-list@eskimo.com
> Subject: CS>Grapefruit Seed Extract
> Date: Saturday, June 5, 1999 4:47 PM
> snip>
> Fellow Listers, 
>   I have recently become aware of an amazing product that has the
> potential to help many members of this list. It may well be the most
potent
> antimicrobial yet discovered and its totally non toxic and dirt cheap!
It's
> deadly against bacteria,fungi,parasites and is anti-viral! Sound too good
to be true.check it out for yourself and make up your own mind.
> Go to www.nutriteam.com/index2.html and
> > Rick
> 
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Re: CS>What the ---?

1999-06-06 Thread boberger
Sparrow;

If you are getting color your spacing is either to close or you are letting
the current run away. Wtih 27 volts and 1" spacing with 3-1/2"et length you
shoud be getting 10 ppm in about one hour without seeding. With 12% seeding
froma previous run the time should drop to about half.

Do you have a millampere meter in the cirsuit? If not you have no idea of
what is happening.

Robert




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Re: cs use

1999-06-06 Thread tj garland
I have 100 mixed trees on 1 acre- semi dwarf.  I needed only one half gallon
to spray all . After 2 applications the fungus on the peach trees was gone.A
good reference is http://cygnus.tamu.edu/Texlab/tpdh.  Kevorkian For White
House Physician.  Jolly


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Re: CS>Re: I want plans to build an HVAC system.

1999-06-06 Thread Charles King
On Sun, 06 Jun 1999 07:45:52 -0700, "chris.dowdle"
 wrote:

>
>I am looking for someone that can explain how to build an HVAC cs generator.
>I found one used, 10,000 volt transformer, that only throws sparks at the
>water. I want to know how I can get it to work as discribed as an "inverted
>water funel to the  upper electrode."
>Do I need to rectify the AC to DC? Please help.

Chris,
The following is a copy of a very recent post of mine describing
probably the simplest of HVAC setups.
2 siver wires, a block of wood, a glass jug,HV xfmer,2 clip leads,
distilled water.
 Normal cautions are assumed.
Chuck

Well,
My son came up with a 9kv neon xfmer for me today, so I was anxious to
try a HVCS setup.
I took a wide mouth jar that seems to hold 2/3 gal. Cut a tapered plug
for the mouth out of a piece of 5/4 oak on the bandsaw, and drilled 2
tiny holes to be able to slip the silver wires thru.
I made the first run using tap water, just to see what to expect.
One wire is about 10" long, goes to the bottom of the jug with the
excess coiled on the bottom.
The other wire is about 5" long and is adjusted to be about 1/8" above
the water surface.
Clip leaded the xfmer leads to the silver and let "er rip.
Got an arc between the short lead and the water, no cone of water.
After about 30 seconds I noticed a gray netlike veil slowly falling
from the long silver wire. I let the process go on for an hour.
The water was grey,distinct tyndall, gray fallout on the bottom. 
Kinda what I'd expect from tap water. No big reflective particles
though.
I dumped this batch in a garden sprayer and went out and sprayed a
Hawthorn that has been plagued with Fire-Blight for the past 35 years.
We'll see!

Ran a second batch with distilled water.
Checked it with the TDS1 b4 the run, it read 001.
Same setup as above, and this time I got a cone of water rising around
the suspended electrode. Checked the progress every 1/2 hr. No veil or
obvious action from the electrodes except the cone of water.
At the end of 90 minutes I was surprised to see the water had turned
golden, and the cone had dropped away from the electrode. Arcing had
replaced the cone.
Distinct Tyndall with no shiny particles or any visible particles, I
usually see some with the 27VDC setup.
No fallout or residue. TDS1 reading of 16.
I guess it's a keeper!

This group is a terrific resource, especially those willing to answer
endless questions with infinite patience. 
Chuck


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Re: CS>Grapefruit Seed Extract

1999-06-06 Thread Vilik Rapheles
At 03:40 PM 6/6/99 EDT, you wrote:
>In a message dated 6/6/99 8:43:06 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
>t...@silvergen.com writes:
>>Could you tell me where to purchase GFSE? 

~~
Just about all health food stores have it now. It comes in three forms, a
liquid, a tablet and a powder in capsules, the latter mixed with artemesia
(an antiparasitic herb.)

The liquid is very strong and MUST be diluted. Do follow the instructions
for diluting. It can cause damage if used in the concentrated form. 

It is relatively inexpensive, and lasts quite a long time. The liquid has
many uses around the house, soaking your toothbrush, soaking that smelling
kitchen sponge, etc. 

If taking internally, for yeast etc, I urge that my experience of
"crashing" after 3 months prompt people to ROTATE it with something else.

~^^V^^~
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Re: CS>Staphylococcus infection

1999-06-06 Thread Harvey Flatbush
At 12:01 PM 6/6/99 -0700, you wrote: 
>
> Harvey,
>  
> Thanks.  That's the kind of info I was looking for.  Someone with a real
> definite outcome from using CS.  I assume the doctors were gnashing their
> teeth when he stopped the antibiotics.  Did they kick him out of the hospital
> because of his refusal to use them?  Did his friends administer the CS or the
> doctors?  Did he totally recover?  No staph anymore?  Has he stopped using
> CS?  If not how much does he still take?  How long ago was this?
>  
> Whew, am I full of questions.
>  
> Thanks for taking the time to answer me.  I appreciate any info and help.
>  
> Trem Williams



Sorry, the doctors don't know.  I took him home from the hospital and his
friend and wife started the colloidal silver on him.  There seems to be no more
evidence of the staph and his temperature is back to normal.  He and his wife
were here at my place last Monday and we walked to the restaurant a block and a
half away and back.  That was the longest walk he had taken since this all
began.  They live about 35 miles from here and will be here again tomorrow.  I
do not know if he has continued taking the same dose of colloidal silver.

Harvey




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Re: CS>Grapefruit Seed Extract

1999-06-06 Thread Wong111
In a message dated 6/6/99 8:43:06 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
t...@silvergen.com writes:

<< Thanks Rick.  I subscribe to Dr. Williams newsletter and have some of the
 grapefruit seed extract.   Hadn't thought about suggesting its use because I
 was locked into CS.  It may be much better because it has more exposure and
 trials.  I'll pursue that avenue for our friend.  She's going in for more
 surgery and they have to try to rid her of the staph before cutting.
 
 Trem Williams >>

Trem

Could you tell me where to purchase GFSE? Dr. Williams won't divulge his 
"reputable" source unless you suscribe to his newsletter. Would you 
reccommend subscription?
Wong


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cs use

1999-06-06 Thread Wong111
> I sprayed all the trees ,except one, today, with 10 ppm CS. ... If
> you make a batch of CS that you don't want to use on humans, don't
> forget your y2k plants.  It's very "organic" too!!!

Are you growing dwarf trees in 10 gallon containers? My apple and cherry 
trees are over 10 feet. Would need gallons of cs and professional spray 
equipment to do the job.

wong


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Re: CS>Silver///Day 24

1999-06-06 Thread Vilik Rapheles
At 11:05 AM 6/6/99 EDT, you wrote:
>Valik,
> When did you start getting the emotional herx?  I haven't seen that 
>problem at this point.  Had some emotional roller coaster times but that was 
>back when I was on abx. Not really seeing that here.  
>
>Janis
>
Oh boy, you are lucky! The more I take the greater it gets. Feels like
yeast die-off...or something die-off

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Re: CS>Staphylococcus infection

1999-06-06 Thread Trem Williams
Harvey,

Thanks.  That's the kind of info I was looking for.  Someone with a real 
definite outcome from using CS.  I assume the doctors were gnashing their teeth 
when he stopped the antibiotics.  Did they kick him out of the hospital because 
of his refusal to use them?  Did his friends administer the CS or the doctors?  
Did he totally recover?  No staph anymore?  Has he stopped using CS?  If not 
how much does he still take?  How long ago was this?

Whew, am I full of questions.

Thanks for taking the time to answer me.  I appreciate any info and help.

Trem Williams
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From: Harvey Flatbush 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Date: Sunday, June 06, 1999 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: CS>Staphylococcus infection


At 09:00 AM 6/6/99 -0700, you wrote: 

Dear Brooks,

Thanks for reminding me of what I already knew.  I was just hoping 
someone had a first hand experience with CS and relief from staph.  I thought 
there might be just one person at least who could say "yes, I cured it"  but 
alas it didn't happen.  I guess only Lyme, colds and flu are the sicknesses 
persons on the list are curing.  I take CS but have only had the occasion to 
relieve my own cold symptoms in one day.  Haven't had anything other than that 
to cure.

Thanks again sir.  I appreciate your response.

Trem 

Dear Trem, In my opinion, Staph will be killed by CS usage. I don`t 
know what caused the innumerable UTIs I once had, (probably E. coli,) or the 
eye infections, or the skin problems, etc. I do know that CS stopped the 
nastiness of a spider bite, which may have been a brown recluse. It also 
stopped the Giardiasis my bird had.
All I can suggest is Try It for staph and see!
Thanks, 
Marsha

A friend of mine recently had a triple bypass and staph developed in the 
fatty tissues where they were stitched togeter prior to closure. the infection 
started leaking at the surface in two places and he was re hospitalized.  They 
thought they had it stopped and sent him home again only to have it start up 
again. Back to the hospital he went. This time for a week. 

His wife and a friend they live with work in the Alzheimers unit of a lock 
down nursing home. 
The friend is the administrator for the Alzheimers unit.  The friend 
insisted they try colloidal silver, stopped the prescribed antibiotics, applied 
the colloidal silver into the weep holes with swabs and it has now started 
healing up. They had to keep the leaking hole open to get the swabs into the 
the holes (two of them). The silver was healing the surface so fast, they 
wanted to be sure the infection was killed on the inside before they could no 
longer get the swab in.  

The generator they are using has the electrodes 3/4" apart, 2 - 5/8" 
immersion (Ala Peter Lindemann's CS-300) and running a 40 minute batch in 8 
ounces of steam distilled water at room temperature using four 9 volt 
batteries.  Along with the swabbing, my friend was drinking 1 quart a day of 
the same recipe.  Personally , I think they were overdoing it with the amount 
he was drinking of such a strong batch.  It is anybodies guess what the ppm's 
might be. 

Sincerely,

Harvey
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Re: CS>Staphylococcus infection

1999-06-06 Thread Harvey Flatbush

At 09:00 AM 6/6/99 -0700, you wrote: 
Dear
Brooks,
 
Thanks for reminding me of what I already knew.  I was
just hoping someone had a first hand experience with CS and relief from
staph.  I thought there might be just one person at least who could
say "yes, I cured it"  but alas it didn't happen.  I
guess only Lyme, colds and flu are the sicknesses persons on the list are
curing.  I take CS but have only had the occasion to relieve my own
cold symptoms in one day.  Haven't had anything other than that to
cure.
 
Thanks again sir.  I appreciate your
response.
 
Trem 
 
Dear Trem, In my opinion, Staph will be killed by CS usage.
I don`t know what caused the innumerable UTIs I once had, (probably E.
coli,) or the eye infections, or the skin problems, etc. I do know that
CS stopped the nastiness of a spider bite, which may have been a brown
recluse. It also stopped the Giardiasis my bird had.
All I can suggest is Try It for staph and see!
Thanks, 
Marsha
A friend of mine recently had a triple bypass and staph developed in the
fatty tissues where they were stitched togeter prior to closure. the
infection started leaking at the surface in two places and he was re
hospitalized.  They thought they had it stopped and sent him home
again only to have it start up again. Back to the hospital he went. This
time for a week. 

His wife and a friend they live with work in the Alzheimers unit of a
lock down nursing home. 
The friend is the administrator for the Alzheimers unit.  The friend
insisted they try colloidal silver, stopped the prescribed antibiotics,
applied the colloidal silver into the weep holes with swabs and it has
now started healing up. They had to keep the leaking hole open to get the
swabs into the the holes (two of them). The silver was healing the
surface so fast, they wanted to be sure the infection was killed on the
inside before they could no longer get the swab in.  

The generator they are using has the electrodes 3/4" apart, 2 -
5/8" immersion (Ala Peter Lindemann's CS-300) and running a 40
minute batch in 8 ounces of steam distilled water at room temperature
using four 9 volt batteries.  Along with the swabbing, my friend was
drinking 1 quart a day of the same recipe.  Personally , I think
they were overdoing it with the amount he was drinking of such a strong
batch.  It is anybodies guess what the ppm's might be. 

Sincerely,

Harvey



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Re: CS>Silver///Day 24

1999-06-06 Thread Donna2424
Janis,
  Count your blessing you did not have that.  If it where not for Candace, 
Marsha, and Nick I don't know where I would be.  Talk about panic stricken.  
I had them in the very beginning and don't want to go through that again.
Donna


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Re: CS>Staphylococcus infection

1999-06-06 Thread Marsha Hallett
Dear Brooks,
 
Thanks for reminding me of what I already knew.  I was just hoping someone 
had a first hand experience with CS and relief from staph.  I thought there 
might be just one person at least who could say "yes, I cured it"  but alas it 
didn't happen.  I guess only Lyme, colds and flu are the sicknesses persons on 
the list are curing.  I take CS but have only had the occasion to relieve my 
own cold symptoms in one day.  Haven't had anything other than that to cure.
 
Thanks again sir.  I appreciate your response.
 
Trem 

Dear Trem, In my opinion, Staph will be killed by CS usage. I don`t know 
what caused the innumerable UTIs I once had, (probably E. coli,) or the eye 
infections, or the skin problems, etc. I do know that CS stopped the nastiness 
of a spider bite, which may have been a brown recluse. It also stopped the 
Giardiasis my bird had.
All I can suggest is Try It for staph and see!
Thanks, 
Marsha


Re: CS>Grapefruit Seed Extract

1999-06-06 Thread Trem Williams
Thanks Rick.  I subscribe to Dr. Williams newsletter and have some of the
grapefruit seed extract.   Hadn't thought about suggesting its use because I
was locked into CS.  It may be much better because it has more exposure and
trials.  I'll pursue that avenue for our friend.  She's going in for more
surgery and they have to try to rid her of the staph before cutting.

Trem Williams

-Original Message-
From: Frederick Porter 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Date: Saturday, June 05, 1999 4:47 PM
Subject: CS>Grapefruit Seed Extract


Fellow Listers,
  I have recently become aware of an amazing product that has the
potential to
help many members of this list. It may well be the most potent
antimicrobial yet discovered
and its totally non toxic and dirt cheap! It's
deadly against bacteria,fungi,parasites and
is anti-viral! Sound too good to be true.check
it out for yourself and make up your own mind.
Go to www.nutriteam.com/index2.html and
www.nutriteam.com/gse.htm Treem, at the first site click on the
article by David Williams
where he describes M.D.'s using it on vanco-
mycin resistant infections. At the second site
click on 'Lab Studies compare GSE, Chlorine,
Colloidal Silver' and 'GSE Replaces Chlorine as Wastewater Treatment'.
At both sites are many more fascinating articles dealing with many of
the afflictions list members are suffering from,
spend some time and prepare to be amazed.
Rick


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Re: CS>Staphylococcus infection

1999-06-06 Thread Trem Williams
Dear Brooks,

Thanks for reminding me of what I already knew.  I was just hoping someone had 
a first hand experience with CS and relief from staph.  I thought there might 
be just one person at least who could say "yes, I cured it"  but alas it didn't 
happen.  I guess only Lyme, colds and flu are the sicknesses persons on the 
list are curing.  I take CS but have only had the occasion to relieve my own 
cold symptoms in one day.  Haven't had anything other than that to cure.

Thanks again sir.  I appreciate your response.

Trem 

-Original Message-
From: Brooks Bradley 
To: silver-list@eskimo.com 
Date: Friday, June 04, 1999 5:33 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Staphylococcus infection


Dear Trem Williams. 
It is my sad duty to opine that the likelihood for 
gaining a succesful modification in the immediate thinking of this patient's 
alleopathic medical counsel is.diminishingly slimand none.  There 
are reasons, far too numerous to list, that would clearly substantiate this 
statement.  However, it is not necessary to go beyond (1)  the compelling 
influence of a "peer controlled", professionalized culture of 
conformitywhich rewards allegiance and punishes variation and (2)  the very 
real threat of socio-economic sanctions of a magnitude synonymous with "total 
destruction of life-style".   There is, simply, NO existing countering 
consideration sufficient to overcome this overpowering influence---except 
for the occasional spiritually-driven martyr.  You can count these, almost, 
upon the fingers of one hand;  Semelweiss, Pauling, Douglass, Regelson, et al.  
After 40 years of professional/academic association with alleopathic medicine 
in America I feel entitled to express this opinionnot against any 
individual (for there are many fine M.D.'s in this country), but rather, to 
highlight a system which has, literally, plundered the physical health and 
well-being of multiple generations of an undeserving  group of recipients.  
 
This is one of the primary reasons I have dedicated both 
the recent past, and all of my remaining future, to our  private charitable 
research foundation.  I feel compelled, not through conscience or guilt, but 
through concern and sympathy for sentient lifeas do my associates.  Please 
forgive this old man's semi-coherent blandishments, but I would like to remind 
all thatthere still live among you some  who really care. 
My sympathy to all who suffer.   Sincerely.  Brooks 
Bradley. 
Trem Williams wrote: 
 Hello fellow listers, Does anyone out there have any direct information on 
the use of CS in treating a staph infection?  I am interested in first hand 
experiences, anecdotal experiences of others, reports that are published; 
anything will be helpful.  We have a friend in the hospital with a staph 
infection and need info for the doctors to be convinced to use it.  They are 
using vancomycin and we want to have them supplement with CS. Thanks for any 
help.  It's really appreciated. Trem Williams
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MZ¡ 
  



Re: CS>Silver///Day 24

1999-06-06 Thread Sinaj101
Valik,
 When did you start getting the emotional herx?  I haven't seen that 
problem at this point.  Had some emotional roller coaster times but that was 
back when I was on abx. Not really seeing that here.  

Janis


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CS>Re: I want plans to build an HVAC system.

1999-06-06 Thread chris.dowdle
I am looking for someone that can explain how to build an HVAC cs generator.
I found one used, 10,000 volt transformer, that only throws sparks at the
water. I want to know how I can get it to work as discribed as an "inverted
water funel to the  upper electrode."
Do I need to rectify the AC to DC? Please help.
-Original Message-
From: James Osbourne, Holmes 
To: 'silver-list@eskimo.com' 
Date: Saturday, June 05, 1999 12:07 PM
Subject: RE: CS>OT: Re: CS>Couldn't resist...


>An even more well recognized phenomena is that scientific studies tend to
produce results which please the source of the funding.
>
>James Osbourne, Holmes
>
>a...@trail.com
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Vilik Rapheles [SMTP:vi...@peak.org]
>Sent: Friday, June 04, 1999 11:49 PM
>To: silver-list@eskimo.com
>Subject: Re: CS>OT: Re: CS>Couldn't resist...
>
>A response I got from someone I sent the the "killer mouse" story to
>
>
>I'm not a scientist but I remember from my college science classes that
>there's a well-recognized phenomena that occurs in scientific testing,
>which is that the tester tends to get the results s/he expects.  They even
>have a name for this phenomena:
>self-fulfilling prophesy.
>
>That's why the "bona fide" scientific community came up with "double-blind"
>testingso even the testers don't know which group has taken what or is
>being exposed to what...so their mind set can't influence the outcome.
>
>The results of this mouse test the young man did would be thrown out on
it's
>pseudo scientific ear by any self-respecting analyst.  But it's just the
>emotion producing fodder tabloids thrive on!  ;)
>
>
>
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Re: CS>Good uses for bad CS

1999-06-06 Thread M. G. Devour
tj wrote:

> I sprayed all the trees ,except one, today, with 10 ppm CS. ... If
> you make a batch of CS that you don't want to use on humans, don't
> forget your y2k plants.  It's very "organic" too!!!

We had a fellow last summer who did a lot of work with soil biology. 
He cautioned us not to disrupt the balance of micro-organisms in the 
soil by saturating it with CS. Foliar application seems to be great, 
though. Let us know how it turns out!

Be well,

Mike D.

[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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CS>wateroz made form lazer?

1999-06-06 Thread RONjb
>From Textbook of CHEMISTRY:

Boiling Point, Freezing Point, and Osmotic Pressure of Colloidal Solutions.

It is impossible to make more than a few general statements regarding boil-
ing and freezing points and osmotic pressure. One colloid may be prepared
by the application of heat, whereas another may be destroyed. In general,
freezing destroys the colloidal state and causes coagulation of the dispersed
phase. No valuable data pertaining to the molecular weight of colloids by
boiling-point rise, freezing-point depression, or osmotic pressure determina-
tions have been obtained because the effect of the colloid is too small to be
measured. This is particularly true of the suspensoid type of sol such as the
colloidal elements, hydroxides, and suifides. Higher concentrations of the
dispersed phase are obtained with the emulsoid type of colloid, such as soaps,
gelatin, glue, and starch. There is one marked difference between suspensoid
and emulsoid sols. When heated to dryness the emulsoid sols can be re-
peptized with water, but the suspensoid sols cannot. Emulsoid sols are called
reversible sols; suspensoid sols are irreversible sols.

1. pure minerals form sols not solutions.
2. a hydrate is a compound formed by the chemical combination of water
   and some other substance. Sols are not combined but suspended.
3. pure mineral sols when dryed can not be turned back into sols by wetting.

Judging from the above that below sounds suspect.

On Sat, 5 Jun 1999 20:45:47 EDT, donna2...@aol.com wrote:

> This is from their booklet that I recieved.
> How is Wateroz made
> It is made by a highly technical process that turns pure minerals into a
> water soluble solution.  the process itseld s proprietary yet we can share
> with you some parts of the process.  We purchase pure (98+%)minerals from
> Atlantic Supply, Alpha Aesar, and jewelers.  David Kinkson then puts these
> pure minerals through this unique process that breaks then down and upon
> dehydration they must form crystals and pass the tundall effect test when
> rehydrated.  When these criterions are met we then send the product to a lab
> for testing.  The water used for the suspension is drawn from a subterranean
> spring for purification and processed by reverse osmosis then treated with
> ozone before the mineral solution is added to produce the finished products.

> That is the only thing stated in their booklet.
> Donna


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Re: CS>Good uses for bad CS

1999-06-06 Thread Charles King
How many treatments did you have to use?
If more than one,how far apart?
I'm trying it on fire-blight for a hawthorn.
Chuck

On Sat, 5 Jun 1999 21:50:23 -0500, "tj garland" 
wrote:

>A couple weeks ago I posted to a disrupter that my peach trees were "cured" of 
>leaf curl by CS, and I didn't think they knew about the placebo effect.


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RE: CS>WaterOz Made With A Laser?

1999-06-06 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Silver metal forms crystals. 
James Osbourne, Holmes

a...@trail.com

-Original Message-
From:   donna2...@aol.com [SMTP:donna2...@aol.com]
Sent:   Saturday, June 05, 1999 8:01 PM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject:Re: CS>WaterOz Made With A Laser?

James,
  It just says that the silver is crystalized (??) and does not give any 
further info.  It does not say specifically the silver, it just talks about 
all the different mineral waters and says that the minerals are crytalized.
Donna


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CS>Silver///Day 24

1999-06-06 Thread Vilik Rapheles
Have been experimenting...going from cutting way down to increasing quite a
bit. Is clear that increasing causes symptoms to increase, especially
anxiety and depression. Like night and day...or should I say day to
night...Yeeks

What do other people think of the mental and emotional "Herx"... How long
does it go on? How do you handle it? (Besides being an emotional
basketcase...)

Ms Vilik (Velique)


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Re: CS>What the ---?

1999-06-06 Thread Marshall Dudley
Clear is small (< 5 nm) particles, golden is larger, (around 10 - 20 nm)
particles, rose is much larger particles, and the black on the bottom would
be settling out because the particles got too large.

Out of interest you might check the ph of both, and see if you left it in
bright ligh.

Marshall

Tom Trauberman wrote:

>   The basic recipe I use to make CS is 4-9  volt batteries snapped
> together . I use hot water with a drop of honey added. Done this way it
> takes about 30 to 45 minutes to get a nice golden color CS.  I decided
> to try making a batch without the honey with the following results. For
> the same time period I produced a clear CS with heavy treeing which
> never happens with the honey ( the treeing ). The next day it turned
> golden and by the end of the day it was rose colored. The day following
> it was clear again with a layer of black fallout at the bottom. The CS I
> make with the honey always stays golden and never changes color. Would
> someone please explain what the ---?
>
>   Tom
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CS>Good uses for bad CS

1999-06-06 Thread tj garland
A couple weeks ago I posted to a disrupter that my peach trees were "cured" of 
leaf curl by CS, and I didn't think they knew about the placebo effect.   
Today, they still have no leaf curl(fungus-taphrina deformans) . The U. of 
Texas says that" once the symptoms of leaf curl are visible, control is 
impossible" I've done some reading about fruit orchards and berry patches 
since. There are hundreds of fungii(?) that attack and kill them.  My apples 
are being attacked by cedar rust(gymnosporangium juniperi-virginianae). I 
sprayed all the trees ,except one, today, with 10 ppm CS. I also cut down a 
large nearby cedar tree.  If you make a batch of CS that you don't want to use 
on humans, don't forget your y2k plants.  It's very "organic" too!!!


Re: CS>Grapefruit Seed Extract

1999-06-06 Thread Michael Anthony
Grapefruit Juice inhibits the breakdown of medications that undergo
breakdown in the cytochrome P450 system. Thus you may overdose
inadvertently by drinking grapefruit juice. The list of medications
includes:


Felodipine
nifedipine
Terfenadine
Astemizole
Triazolam
Lovastatine
Cyclosporine
Ethinyloestradiol
17-beta estradiol
Quinidine
Saquinavir

Michael Anthony  


 

donna2...@aol.com wrote:
> 
> Rick,
>   GSE is suppose to be great.   But.for those that do try it just be
> careful of one side effect.  When I was using it I had such a reaction
> causing brain fog.commonly known here as brain frog..it was terrible.
>  I couldn't think straight.   As soon as I stopped it, it was gone.  I
> started again just to make sure and it came right back.  This is how it
> effected me.  I know some people that love that.  So just be careful and
> don't be alarmed if you suddenly feel frogged.I mean fogged in.
> Donna
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Re: CS>WaterOz Made With A Laser?

1999-06-06 Thread DATTYPUKE
In a message dated 99-06-05 18:28:20 EDT, you write:

<< 
 At 04:57 PM 6/5/99 -0500, you wrote:
 >Awhile back someone said that the WaterOz colloidals
 >are made by using a laser which apparently "blasts"
 >the silver to make ultrafine particles. Does anyone
 >know the particulars of this process such as:
 >
 >What type of laser is used, wavelength of light and power?
 >
 >Is the silver submerged under water during this process?
 >
 >Anyone know of any patents or other products which
 >use this method?  Thanks
 >  Mike Rhyner
 >~~~
 I emailed WaterOz and asked them about their process. Have not heard back
 yet. Anyone else know? 
 
 ~^^V^^~
  
They are not going to tell you how they make it. It's propietory knowledge.

Pat


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Re: CS>Rock dust ..was Seaweed

1999-06-06 Thread DATTYPUKE
In a message dated 99-06-03 12:36:40 EDT, you write:

<< 
 And rock dust boosts the supply of soil micro organisms by supplying
 them with NEEDED trace elements...
 
 Rock dust is a supplier of trace elements.This is the value
 of rock dust.
 
 
 
 dan
  >>

This would be a great ad-on to my gardening. I think I will try it. 
Right now I sprinkle regular white granulated sugar on my gardens and lawns. 
Great and cheap way to promote micro-organisms. Doesn't seem to attract too 
many unwanted bugs etc. I thought it would but not.

Pat


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Re: CS>Staphylococcus infection

1999-06-06 Thread DATTYPUKE
Trem, 

I'd be sneaking some CS in.

Pat


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