Re: [OSM-talk-be] [Kivu] Help to young active men in kivu
Bonsoir, Encore une fois, tu poses de très bonnes questions. Et j'aimerais que nos amis du sud puissent devenir maître de leur autonomie numérique. C'est une des raisons pour lesquelles je me dis que cartographier leur environnement, identifier les ressources physiques locales (fibres, pylônes, câbles, fournisseurs d'accès potentiels ou simplement personnes ou institutions assez bien connectées et disposées à partager de temps en temps cette connexion ...) et les rassembler dans openstreetmap. Mais il y a en partie une question de poule et d'œuf, et de compétence comme de manque de disponibilité de ma part. Par où commencer quand on ne dispose que de smartphones et de peu de bande passante ? Peut-être que la communauté OpenStreetMap belge peut nous / les aider. Et si je mentionne riot, c'est que la dite communauté utilise aujourd'hui plutôt cela que le courriel. Bonne soirée, Nicolas PS et je t'ai mis dans la boucle aussi car je sais que tu as correspondu avec nos amis -- Nicolas Pettiaux -- Nicolas Pettiaux, PhD - tel +32.496.24.55.01 Collaborer pour mieux enseigner - https://wiki.educode.be Educode accompagne les écoles face aux défis du numérique Envoyé de mon fairphone - veuillez excuser la brièveté 31 juil. 2020 18:47:05 Georges Khaznadar : > Hello Nicolas, hello everybody, > > using Riot rather than Telegram does not change much when one cannot > master the web servers which are providing the service. > > As far as I undestood, the high prices of Internet access in Kivu are > due to foreign companies trusting the scarse hardware network. > > If I live in Kivu, and if I want to create a small communication > company, what would be the cost of opening a regional communication > service, eventually featuring Riot? Can I do it independently, or must I > accept the conditions of Orange, Airtel or Vodacom? > > Best regards, Georges. > > Nicolas Pettiaux a écrit : >> Hello, >> >> A team of active young men in kivu with very limited internet access are >> looking for help to map better their city of Bukavu and surroundings. >> >> They have smatphones and expensive connections with low bandwidth. >> >> They use telegram and email, but I don't know for riot. >> >> Some are in cc and more are on the mailing list k...@educode.ne >> >> Much thanks to everyone who van guide and help thème better than I can or do. >> >> Regards, >> >> Nicolas >> ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] Help to young active men in kivu
Hello, A team of active young men in kivu with very limited internet access are looking for help to map better their city of Bukavu and surroundings. They have smatphones and expensive connections with low bandwidth. They use telegram and email, but I don't know for riot. Some are in cc and more are on the mailing list k...@educode.ne Much thanks to everyone who van guide and help thème better than I can or do. Regards, Nicolas -- Nicolas Pettiaux -- Nicolas Pettiaux, PhD - tel +32.496.24.55.01 Collaborer pour mieux enseigner - https://wiki.educode.be Educode accompagne les écoles face aux défis du numérique Envoyé de mon fairphone - veuillez excuser la brièveté ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] La rencontre d'hier avec Marcel Shabani de OpenStreetMap à Bukavu
Bonjour, En fait, on cartographie le mieux lorsqu'on est sur place, càd vous. Il est tout à fait possible de le faire avec un smartphone. Merci de nous dire quelles sont les systèmes d'exploitation de vos smartphones. Le groupe OSM-BE vous aidera en vous guidant. Je mets en copie 2 membres particulièrement actifs de la liste belge et la liste de discussion de osm-be : talk-be@openstreetmap.org Comme cela, vous ne devrez presque pas utiliser le web. Juste une fois de temps en temps pour transférer ce qui aura été stocké sur vos smartphones. @Jo, Joost, osm-be : pouvez vouns aider les membres de la communauté du Kivu, des jeunes très actifs mais qui disposent en fait de très peu de bande passante, très chère. Il faut que nous en tenions compte. Une des idées de la cartographie est de les aider aussi à repérer les antennes et points d'accès auxquels ils pourraient connecter le réseau internet qu'avec Gaël Musquet (de https://hand.team) nous allons les aider à construire, installer et maintenir, en étant aussi indépendant que possibles. Bonne journée, Nicolas Le 18/05/20 à 16:42, CHAVEZ CIKURU a écrit : > Bonjour Prof. Nicolas, > Bonjour à tous. > > Le mail, nous venons de le lire avec une grande attention et avons > compris sa quintessence. > Nous sommes prêts d'apprendre à cartographier avec OSM.BE <http://OSM.BE>. > Nous vous proposons, dans la mesure du possible, comme nous (KIVU) on > est pas de temps en temps connecté avec le Web, nous donner le jour > précis où la communauté belge de OSM commencera avec la cartographie. > > Voilà. > Bien à vous. > Alain > > > Le ven. 15 mai 2020 à 16:04, Nicolas Pettiaux <mailto:nico...@pettiaux.be>> a écrit : > > Bonjour > > Merci pour ton mail. Je me réjouis de la rencontre. > > Je rajoute à la conversation la liste des contributeurs belges de > OpenStreetMap (OSM) (and sorry, I go on in French because the team > in south Kivu speak French, very few English and not Flemish) pour > leur aide. Je continue aussi par email car riot est pour le moment > difficile pour nos amis du Kivu qui ont surtout accès au peu > d'internet dont ils disposent par smartphones. > > @osm-be friends : could you help the team of very motivated young > people around Alain to map Bukavu and south Kivu, to > > 1. have the best possible map of the country > 2. use the map to build a good community-based internet network > > They have access to smartphones and apparently hardly to any > desktops or laptops, nor to good and cheap internet access ... > that we want to help achieve. > > À toi Alain et les membres de la liste k...@educode.be > <mailto:k...@educode.be>, > > Ce qui est nécessaire c'est que vous appreniez à faire le travail > de cartographie qui peut être fait avec des smartphones en ayant > que de temps en temps une connexion au web. Les membres de OSM-be > peuvent vous aider à apprendre les outils sur smartphone et les > bonnes méthodes, et nous pouvons aussi vous aider en > cartographiant certains morceaux d'ici avec les photos aériennes, > mais votre travail sur place reste essentiel dans la philosophe de > OSM. > > Et une des contributions de Gaël sera de vous aider à avoir le > matériel pour construire les réseaux locaux dont vous avez besoin > en vous inspirant de http://hand.team/#la-methode avec notre > support et si possible nos soutiens financiers et logistiques aussi. > > Bonne journée et à très bientôt, > > Nicolas > > Le 14/05/20 à 13:04, CHAVEZ CIKURU a écrit : >> Bonjour Professeur Nicolas, >> Bonjour à tous. >> >> J'espère que vous allez mieux. >> Hier, aux environs de 17h (heure de Bukavu) nous nous sommes >> rencontrés (/ALAIN, VICTOR et MARCEL/) à l'ISDR Bukavu avec >> Marcel de OpenStreetMap à Bukavu. >> >> Il nous a clairement dit qu'il est prêt à faire pour nous la >> cartographie des ressources existantes (pylônes de 4G, lieux qui >> fournissent le Wifi, Points d'accès, etc.). >> C'est selon lui, ça c'est un moment (moment de confinement) >> profitable pour faire ça car il ne reste pas beaucoup de temps à >> Bukavu. >> Mais il nous a vraiment expliqué le problème qui est presque >> commun (en RDC), qui ne peux pas lui permettre de faire la >> cartographie vite et bien. Le problème c'est l'accès à la >> connexion internet. Pour y accéder il faut des moyens (acheter >> des forfaits). Voilà donc le problème. La connexion internet il >> doit acheter. Mais i
Re: [OSM-talk-be] privacy ed
Hello > No! You need prior permission to take a photo of a person. can you provide a legal text with that ? I thought that we are allowed to take a picture for our personal needs but we have to ask the permission to publish it unless special cases, eg. as journalists. Otherwise, journalists and whistle blowers could not do their jobs without authorization -- *Nicolas Pettiaux, phd* - gsm +32 496 24 55 01 - nico...@pettiaux.be Avenue du Pérou 29 à 1000 Bruxelles 0xA9920C887AF627FD.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] La rencontre d'hier avec Marcel Shabani de OpenStreetMap à Bukavu
Bonjour Merci pour ton mail. Je me réjouis de la rencontre. Je rajoute à la conversation la liste des contributeurs belges de OpenStreetMap (OSM) (and sorry, I go on in French because the team in south Kivu speak French, very few English and not Flemish) pour leur aide. Je continue aussi par email car riot est pour le moment difficile pour nos amis du Kivu qui ont surtout accès au peu d'internet dont ils disposent par smartphones. @osm-be friends : could you help the team of very motivated young people around Alain to map Bukavu and south Kivu, to 1. have the best possible map of the country 2. use the map to build a good community-based internet network They have access to smartphones and apparently hardly to any desktops or laptops, nor to good and cheap internet access ... that we want to help achieve. À toi Alain et les membres de la liste k...@educode.be, Ce qui est nécessaire c'est que vous appreniez à faire le travail de cartographie qui peut être fait avec des smartphones en ayant que de temps en temps une connexion au web. Les membres de OSM-be peuvent vous aider à apprendre les outils sur smartphone et les bonnes méthodes, et nous pouvons aussi vous aider en cartographiant certains morceaux d'ici avec les photos aériennes, mais votre travail sur place reste essentiel dans la philosophe de OSM. Et une des contributions de Gaël sera de vous aider à avoir le matériel pour construire les réseaux locaux dont vous avez besoin en vous inspirant de http://hand.team/#la-methode avec notre support et si possible nos soutiens financiers et logistiques aussi. Bonne journée et à très bientôt, Nicolas Le 14/05/20 à 13:04, CHAVEZ CIKURU a écrit : > Bonjour Professeur Nicolas, > Bonjour à tous. > > J'espère que vous allez mieux. > Hier, aux environs de 17h (heure de Bukavu) nous nous sommes > rencontrés (/ALAIN, VICTOR et MARCEL/) à l'ISDR Bukavu avec Marcel de > OpenStreetMap à Bukavu. > > Il nous a clairement dit qu'il est prêt à faire pour nous la > cartographie des ressources existantes (pylônes de 4G, lieux qui > fournissent le Wifi, Points d'accès, etc.). > C'est selon lui, ça c'est un moment (moment de confinement) profitable > pour faire ça car il ne reste pas beaucoup de temps à Bukavu. > Mais il nous a vraiment expliqué le problème qui est presque commun > (en RDC), qui ne peux pas lui permettre de faire la cartographie vite > et bien. Le problème c'est l'accès à la connexion internet. Pour y > accéder il faut des moyens (acheter des forfaits). Voilà donc le > problème. La connexion internet il doit acheter. Mais il est vraiment > prêt à le faire pour nous. > > Bon après midi. > Bien à vous. > Alain CHAVEZ KAMERA > > -- > *CIKURU KAMERA Alain Chavez* > *Technicien en Développement Rural et Consultant en Matières de > Développement.* > *Tél: +243 97 57 57 359, +243 85 23 36 465* -- *Nicolas Pettiaux, phd* - gsm +32 496 24 55 01 - nico...@pettiaux.be Avenue du Pérou 29 à 1000 Bruxelles 0xA9920C887AF627FD.asc Description: application/pgp-keys signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] Cartographie au kivu
Bonjour Alain, Bonjour les personnes des listes osm-be et osm-fr, Alain est un étudiant du Kivu intéressé par les projets autour des ressources éducatives libres, des webinaires et formations à des outils libres que Educode met en place à l'occasion de ce confinement. (voir https://educode.be et https://wiki.educode.be) Nous nous sommes rendus compte que avant de pouvoir discuter des contenus et outils, il y a une vraie difficulté au Kivu (et sans doute en général dans une bonne partie de l'Afrique). L'accès à internet est compliqué et cher. Donc, il paraît nécessaire de commencer par attaquer ce problème avant les autres. Il me semblait que cartographier les ressources existantes (points d'accès, pylônes de 4G, lieux qui fournissent du wifi, ressources électriques telles que panneaux solaires, éoliennes, générateurs ...) puis voir comment mettre en place des réseaux indépendants (comme ce que http://hand.team/ fait dans les caraïbes pour rendre les populations indépendantes) pourrait être opportuns. À propos de la cartographie, il me semble que les groupes OSM-BE et OSM-FR seraient de bien meilleures aides que moi. Voilà pourquoi je vous ai mis en copie. Vous trouverez ci-dessous la suite de la correspondance avec Alain qui est l'interface avec les autres personnes (surtout des enseignants) du Kivu. Pour le moment aussi, les discussions en dehors de celles par email (ici) sont sur whatsapp. Peut-être auriez-vous des suggestions pour des outils plus opportuns, qui fonctionnent sur smartphone comme sur desktop, et ne dépendent pas de Facebook (et facile à apprendre) ? Ex Matrix / riot ? Merci pour votre aide à tous, Le 21/04/20 à 11:09, CHAVEZ CIKURU a écrit : > Bonjour Professeur. > > Je vais bien. > Hier, j'ai lu votre mail avec une très grande attention. > Je veux juste avoir quelques éclaircissements par rapport aux lieux > (en ville et au village): > Nous allons donc identifier les lieux de points d'accès et wifi (là > qu'il y a la connexion?), les endroits où l'on peut mettre un wifi? > C'est ça? l'idée est d'abord de répertorier tout ce qui existe autour de vous; sur le plus possible de choses pour avoir les cartes les plus détaillées. Il ne tient qu'à vous de faire cela, avec l'aide des élèves, étudiants, parents ... bref tout le monde. Cela peut devenir un jeu et même un bel objectif : avoir la carte la plus complète et la plus précise du Kivu / de RDC / d'Afrique. > Ou soit nous allons indiquer des lieux selon la qualité de connexion: > La 4G, le WIFI, La fibre Optique? tout cela aussi > D'abord, ici chez nous, presque dans chaque ville de la province, > chaque territoire est arrosé par la connexion de 4G (du réseau Airtel, > Organge et Vodacom). ce serait bien de mettre aussi les localisations des antennes de chaque fournisseur > > Et puis donc, nous allons donner les prix pour chaque qualité de > connexion? oui, dans un autre document. Ceci n'a pas vocation à se trouver dans OpenStreetMap. > C'est pas les prix des routeurs? Je vous propose de voir ceci par la suite > Voilà donc quelques questions sur lesquelles je souhaite avoir des > éclaircissements. mon idée est donc : avant tout, il faut avoir une bonne idée de l'existant et le mieux est de le mettre dans une carte partagée. Vous pourrez sûrement > > En attente de vous relire. > Bien à vous. > Cordialement > */CIKURU KAMERA Alain Chavez/* > > Le lun. 20 avr. 2020 à 15:28, Nicolas Pettiaux (educode) > mailto:nico...@educode.be>> a écrit : > > Bonjour Alain, > > Merci beaucoup pour le fichier. C'est très bien. Je ne m'étais pas > bien exprimé pour les niveaux (Années enseignées/d’études de la > colonne G). Je voulais dire "le niveau des classes enseignées" par > exemple, "secondaire inférieur 1ere, secondaire supérieur 4e, > primaire 3è, supérieur 2e" ... (nous comptons pour les années > primaires de 1 à 6, secondaires de 1 à 6 de nouveau, puis pour le > supérieur (universitaire ou non) de 1 à 5. Cela permet de savoir > donc à quels niveaux chacun enseigne. > > J'ai réfléchi, et vous propose de commencer par faire ce que nous > pouvons pour que vous puissiez avoir de bonnes connexions aussi > bon marché que possible à internet. > > Ceci passe à mon avis par identifier chez vous quels sont les > endroits où vous pouvez avec accès à internet dans les villes et > villages, et a meilleure manière pour faire cela est sans doute > d'apprendre à éditer la carte https://openstreetmap.org pour y > ajouter les informations adéquates (telles que lieux des points > d'accès et wifi, qualité des connexions à chaque endroits ...) . > Il faudrait aussi à mon avis maintenir une
Re: [OSM-talk-be] ordering channels in the Community Index
Le vendredi 30 août 2019 à 11:00 +0200, Jonathan Beliën a écrit : > I completely agree with your suggested order ! +1 > But I would merge Riot and IRC in one single "channel". +1 Just to add : as I am old, accustomed to email, I go on with it. But I know I should use mure riot. Thanks -- Dr Nicolas Pettiaux - nico...@educode.be -|- GSM : +32 (0)496 24 55 01 Educode asbl -|- Informer, former & réfléchir aux défis du numérique https://educode.be & https://wiki.educode.be -|- ven 27/09 & lun 7/10 ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] Ideas & osoc2019
Dear all, yesterday, I have discovered with much pleasure numerous projects relate to OSM at OSOC2019 (Open summer of code) public presentation. See https://2019.opensummerofcode.be/2019 I have been really impressed by * https://2019.opensummerofcode.be/2019/open-heritage-map * https://2019.opensummerofcode.be/2019/configuroute * https://2019.opensummerofcode.be/2019/hopper * https://2019.opensummerofcode.be/2019/cycling-up * https://2019.opensummerofcode.be/2019/road-report to name a few. I dream that soon, hopper be another (a third one) routing proposal of the official osm.org for example as well as configuroute. Or that configuroute would ask "why" a user at some point wants to change the default proposed route and that this reason be automatically entered, it the users wants and confirm, into a road-report to add another point of concern related to the street states (eg as a cyclist I could rather say change the route due to bad road state than enter the case in road-report). I dream that road-report would have results and data that are completely public to allow the public to follow and spot the treatment by the administration of the reported cases and problems. for example. For this, I think that we, the Belgian OSM-be people coult help improve the projects and then support their addition to OSM. What do you think ? Have a good day, Nicolas -- Nicolas Pettiaux, phd - nico...@pettiaux.be - portable 0496 24 55 01 Educode - asbl - informer, former & réfléchir aux défis du numérique https://educode.be & https://wiki.educode.be - ven 27/9 & lun 7/10 2019 ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] invitation à educode 2019 le vendredi 27 septembre 2019 à Bruxelles
Bonjour, Je souhaite 1. vous/t' inviter à educode2019 le vendredi 27 septembre 2019 à Bruxelles 2. vous/t' inviter à y faire une ou des conférences sur le logiciel libre et les licences creative commons dans vos usages, et pour créer des œuvres libres, 3. faire un ou des ateliers sur tout logiciel (libre bien sûr) ou contenus (aussi libre) que des profs pourraient utiliser et 4. tenir un stand. Une conférence et un atelier peuvent être faits à distance. On en a déjà qui seront faits depuis l'Argentine. Comme educode 2018 (voir http://educode.be et 2018.educode.be qui restera) on veut informer, former et susciter la réflexion des acteurs du monde de l'enseignement (= tout le monde) sur le numérique, l'informatique et les ressources libres. Vous (et tous vos membres, amis ... ) êtes donc autant attendus que bienvenus. Nous avons déjà pas mal de conférences, d'ateliers, partenaires mais il en faut encore. Toute aide (financière, humaine, logistique, en matériel, pour la promotion, en temps de calcul ...) est la très bienvenue. On cherche encore des partenaires Pour info, educode 2020 aura lieu les 7 et 8 février à Lille (université de Lille) juste après didapro. Merci et à très bientôt j'espère, Nicolas -- Nicolas Pettiaux - PhD - nico...@pettiaux.be Avenue du Pérou 29 - B-1000 Bruxelles - gsm +32.496.24.55.01 ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgium Local Chapter application, community feedback wanted
Munch thanks Joost for having initiated this registration process. It is a great idea. Regards, Nicolas -- *Nicolas Pettiaux*, PhD. EMM. - nico...@pettiaux.be - gsm +32 496 24 55 01 *Educode.be* - informer, former et réfléchir aux défis du numérique à l'école Bruxelles - Bozar, HE2B-ESI-ISIB & Académie royale - 27, 28, 29 August 2018 *PGP sig * 6FFA 2BDE 16E1 A98F D2C8 1A46 F2E6 4F5E 6728 09F3 « Apprendre aux élèves à utiliser les produits privateurs de Microsoft, Facebook, Google ou Oracle, c'est comme leur apprendre à fumer. C'est leur donner une habitude coûteuse, dangereuse et dont ils se déferont difficilement.» Richard Stallman <> signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgium Local Chapter application, community feedback wanted
Le 30/03/18 à 09:04, Steven Clays a écrit : > Looking forward to participate in an official local chapter! 🎩 +1 -- *Nicolas Pettiaux*, PhD. EMM. - nico...@pettiaux.be - gsm +32 496 24 55 01 *Educode.be* - informer, former et réfléchir aux défis du numérique à l'école Bruxelles - Bozar, HE2B-ESI-ISIB & Académie royale - 27, 28, 29 August 2018 *PGP sig * 6FFA 2BDE 16E1 A98F D2C8 1A46 F2E6 4F5E 6728 09F3 « Apprendre aux élèves à utiliser les produits privateurs de Microsoft, Facebook, Google ou Oracle, c'est comme leur apprendre à fumer. C'est leur donner une habitude coûteuse, dangereuse et dont ils se déferont difficilement.» Richard Stallman <> signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] doctoral public defense
I'll try to attend. Thanks for the notice -- *Nicolas Pettiaux* PhD, AESS, EMM - Tel +32 496 24 55 01 Maître-assistant - École supérieure d'informatique - ESI http://esi-bru.be Haute école Bruxelles-Brabant - HE2B - http://he2b.be Laboratories of Image, Signal processing & Acoustics - ULB http://lisa.ulb.ac.be/ *http://EduCode.be - Conférence internationale sur l'enseignement et le codage, Bozar, Bruxelles, 27-29 août 2018* *http://EduCode.be - An international conference on teaching and coding, Bozar, Brussels, 27-29 August 2018* <>___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Open Belgium
As said, I'll be there. I have submitted a talk about openseamap : « mapping the depth of the Belgian seaside » For this project, I am writing a proposal to get some financial support, eg/ from the communes/gemeenten on the seaside and from the Flemish government. Some help will be welcome for this project as my knowledge of Flemisch is not sufficient to write in proper Flemisch I will also present the educode.be international conference to be held at Bozar, ESI and the Royal Académie on August 27, 28 and 29 that will be about teaching and coding and the use of free softwares and free datas in the classrooms. Any helps, suggestions, ideas, proposals are welcome (See http://educode.be for more info now) Regards, Nicolas Le 12/01/18 à 10:36, Julien Minet a écrit : > Hi Joost, Hi list, > > I'll be there! And I plan to submit something about land-use in OSM. It > could be a workshop. If someone wants to join in the authors/speakers, > let me know! It would be better to have different points of view. > > There is also the subject of the cooperation between Sentiers Grandes > Randonnées & OSM that could be interesting, but maybe for another > workshop... > > Julien > > > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 9:21 AM, joost schouppe > mailto:joost.schou...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hi, > > The next Open Belgium conference is coming up, bringing together the > entire "open community" of Belgium. It's not just about official > open data providers and users, but also open knowledge, open source, > and of course us, OpenStreetMap in Belgium. > > http://2018.openbelgium.be/ > > Since OpenStreetMap Belgium is one of the working groups of Open > Knowledge Belgium, we can do stuff during the conference. What we > do, is up to you! If you've done anything with regards to OSM that > you would like to share, now is the time. For now, the deadline for > proposals is this Sunday. Early bird tickets also end soon (though > send me a PM if ticket price is an issue). So time for action! > > Things we were thinking about ourselves: > - talk about OSM Belgium, organisational as well as our projects > - maybe some of escada's projects, like what the Fietsersbond has > been up to > - the GBB import > - Trage Wegen (they always do cool stuff with OSM and open knowledge > creation) > - last year's Open Summer of Code students > - have that long overdue landuse debate > - an introduction to humanitarian mapping > - [ your proposal here ] > > Don't be shy, don't hesitate to contact me or commun...@osm.be > <mailto:commun...@osm.be> with questions. Hope to see you there! > > > -- > Joost Schouppe > OpenStreetMap > <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/> | Twitter > <https://twitter.com/joostjakob> | LinkedIn > <https://www.linkedin.com/pub/joost-schouppe/48/939/603> | Meetup > <http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/members/97979802/> > > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Talk-be@openstreetmap.org> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be> > > > > > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > -- *Nicolas Pettiaux* PhD, AESS, EMM - Tel +32 496 24 55 01 Maître-assistant - École supérieure d'informatique - ESI http://esi-bru.be Haute école Bruxelles-Brabant - HE2B - http://he2b.be Laboratories of Image, Signal processing & Acoustics - ULB http://lisa.ulb.ac.be/ *http://EduCode.be - Conférence internationale sur l'enseignement et le codage, Bozar, Bruxelles, 27-29 août 2018* *http://EduCode.be - An international conference on teaching and coding, Bozar, Brussels, 27-29 August 2018* <>___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Open Belgium
Hello, I have just fille the form with a proposal: Title : OpenSeaMap : mapping the depth of the Belgian coast Abstract : OpenSeaMap is an extension of OpenStreetMap that provides a full map of the seas and oceans. Today is contains many information about the marks that are above the sealevel. One of the projects of the OpenSeaMap community is to make sure the underwater is as well known. I will describe what is done, which hardware and which software is developed, what could be some ideas for the Belgian coasts and give some other ideas, what needs to be done. Le 10/01/18 à 11:45, Ben Abelshausen a écrit : > I would like to talk about a project I am resuming to work on : mapping > the depth of the sea, at least the Belgian coast. This is part of > OpenSeaMap. -- *Nicolas Pettiaux* PhD, AESS, EMM - Tel +32 496 24 55 01 Maître-assistant - École supérieure d'informatique - ESI http://esi-bru.be Haute école Bruxelles-Brabant - HE2B - http://he2b.be Laboratories of Image, Signal processing & Acoustics - ULB http://lisa.ulb.ac.be/ *http://EduCode.be - Conférence internationale sur l'enseignement et le codage, Bozar, Bruxelles, 27-29 août 2018* *http://EduCode.be - An international conference on teaching and coding, Bozar, Brussels, 27-29 August 2018* <>___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Open Belgium
Hi Joost and the other members of the list, I would like to talk about a project I am resuming to work on : mapping the depth of the sea, at least the Belgian coast. This is part of OpenSeaMap. I would also like to talk about the applications maps.me and StreetComplete that can be of daily use, that are very convenient and easy. StreetComplete is an easy way to help improve OSM I think having a discussion of OSM enthusiats about the future activities around OSM in Belgium would be good, as well as having a yearly planning of all the activities known today that could be interesting (eg. Fosdem in February, then OpenBelgium, then some HOT activities like last year possibly then Educode.be ...) Regards, Nicolas Le 10/01/18 à 09:21, joost schouppe a écrit : > Hi, > > The next Open Belgium conference is coming up, bringing together the > entire "open community" of Belgium. It's not just about official open > data providers and users, but also open knowledge, open source, and of > course us, OpenStreetMap in Belgium. > > http://2018.openbelgium.be/ > > Since OpenStreetMap Belgium is one of the working groups of Open > Knowledge Belgium, we can do stuff during the conference. What we do, is > up to you! If you've done anything with regards to OSM that you would > like to share, now is the time. For now, the deadline for proposals is > this Sunday. Early bird tickets also end soon (though send me a PM if > ticket price is an issue). So time for action! > > Things we were thinking about ourselves: > - talk about OSM Belgium, organisational as well as our projects > - maybe some of escada's projects, like what the Fietsersbond has been up to > - the GBB import > - Trage Wegen (they always do cool stuff with OSM and open knowledge > creation) > - last year's Open Summer of Code students > - have that long overdue landuse debate > - an introduction to humanitarian mapping > - [ your proposal here ] > > Don't be shy, don't hesitate to contact me or commun...@osm.be > <mailto:commun...@osm.be> with questions. Hope to see you there! > > > -- > Joost Schouppe > OpenStreetMap > <http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/joost%20schouppe/> | Twitter > <https://twitter.com/joostjakob> | LinkedIn > <https://www.linkedin.com/pub/joost-schouppe/48/939/603> | Meetup > <http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/members/97979802/> > > > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > -- *Nicolas Pettiaux* PhD, AESS, EMM - Tel +32 496 24 55 01 Maître-assistant - École supérieure d'informatique - ESI http://esi-bru.be Haute école Bruxelles-Brabant - HE2B - http://he2b.be Laboratories of Image, Signal processing & Acoustics - ULB http://lisa.ulb.ac.be/ *http://EduCode.be - Conférence internationale sur l'enseignement et le codage, Bozar, Bruxelles, 27-29 août 2018* *http://EduCode.be - An international conference on teaching and coding, Bozar, Brussels, 27-29 August 2018* <>___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM and SIAMU
Dear all Together with Marc Ducobu as other member of the « OSM community » I have attended a meeting organized at VIAS (the former IBSR) by Herbert Hansen with representatives from the Siamu, Police and other (see mail here below). I have the impression that working openly with the community is for many organizations a difficult step to consider and manage. I think that the human relationships play an extremely important part in the success or failure of the use of technology, here the data. May I suggest that the SIAMU invite the active members of this thread of discussion for a physical (in person) meeting on their premises. As I suggested to the SIAMU, and as they have done with the very interesting exchange initiated by Nadia Poncelet, working openly with the community that is striving to address cases of general concerns and general interest, would be profitable. Maybe Mr Hansen who worked with GIS data a lot and now helps institutions with projects could help in making sure that such a meeting is profitable for all parties (aka SIamu and OSM). Best regards, Nicolas == Bonjour, Pour rappel vous êtes inscrit(s) au workshop ayant pour thème la mobilité - sécurité routière et innovation géospatiale. Le workshop sera organisé le 27/11/2017 de 9 :30 à 13 :00 (lunch inclus). Adresse du jour : VIAS, Haachtsesteenweg/Chaussée de Haecht 1405, 1130 Brussels L’objectif de ce workshop est: 1. réunir les professionnels de ce secteur et recueillir leurs besoins en la matière, 2. présenter l’état de l’art en technologies géospatiales 3. mutualiser/consolider les besoins de toutes les organisations présentes, de manière à envisager, en réponse à ces besoins, une solution rationnelle intégrant les techniques géo-spatiales. Pour votre information nous avons le plaisir de réunir des représentants de VIAS, la Police Fédérale, les pompiers de Bruxelles, la communauté Open Street Map, le pôle Logistics in Wallonia, l’UWE, L’Université de Liège, etc. Cette matinée a été conçue sous forme d’un atelier de travail, votre présence est donc nécessaire pendant toute sa durée. Je vous remercie encore pour votre participation. N’hésitez pas à me contacter si avez la moindre questions. Au plaisir de collaborer avec vous lundi prochain, Herbert HANSEN Project manager Rue Bois Saint Jean, 15/1 | B-4102 Seraing, Belgium Web : www.wsl.be l www.fabspace.eu SSS_mobility_27nov2017_bis.jpg -- *Dr Nicolas Pettiaux*- nico...@pettiaux.be** <> signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] BeGeo
Dear all, I have participated in different meetings related to the organization of begeo as a representative of OSM. I made some proposals to involve us (the OSM community) and make sure that our preoccupetions are met : need for open data, that could be inserted into OSM or for applications made by and for the citizens. I'll check, but I think that it is still possible for us to be active and well represented in begeo. Regards, Nicolas -- Nicolas Pettiaux, phd - nico...@pettiaux.be Dans une société libre, la connaissance est librement accessible à tous OpenForum.be [1] - où l'on discute OpenAccess et libre accès, les 2è jeudi à 18h30 Links: -- [1] http://OpenForum.be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Taalfaciliteiten + taalgrens + straatnamen
Much hanks Sander. Reading your mail, and especially the sentence "Of all streets in all those municipalities, around 91% had a name, but only 26% had name:fr and name:nl tags. Such a low quality is really sad to see." I would like us to propose the following community project : (for which I would be happy to organize a meeting in Brussels to celebrate the end and communicate to journalist whom we would meet) let us complete and make sure we have, at least for those bilingual municipalities 100 % coverage (= names in names:fr and names:nl) Could you please Sander post your lists of street names in a spreadsheet like framacalc.org or a text file on a share location (ie github or git.framasoft.org) and the URL to the elements (streets) in OSM for us (the community) to help translate easily and effectively (looking at the real names in the streets) in OSM ? We could do one commune/gemeente after the other and organize a celebration in each commune with the elected representatives and the associations, claiming "You have won, your commune is now fully translated in OSM". We could also celebrate the fact that every street of the commune are in OSM. Thereafter, with the communes and their offices, we could organize that they internally use and invest into OSM : eg register in OSM all their public buildings, post offices ,shops ... And then that they use OSM and the related services to build the topic maps of the communes What do you think ? Regards, Nicoals Le 2015-12-02 14:24, Sander Deryckere a écrit : > 2015-12-01 19:46 GMT+01:00 Nicolas Pettiaux : > >> I also tend to think that we should find a solution the let any user find >> the street with any name in Nominatim, especially in this bilingual region. >> I think that our united and peaceful Belgian OSM community can lead the way >> here again. > > The problem with Nominatim isn't one of languages, it's one of boundaries. > Nominatim is very hierarchical, and requires that one street only belongs to > one municipality, and one house to one street. So when the streets are on the > boundary, the houses are on different municipalities, which means Nominatim > can't find half of them. > >> For example, I find particularly irritating to note that some commercial car >> guidance (often called "car gps") with included commercial maps or >> commercial mapping systems on the web, do offer the region of Brussels >> (which is bilingual but to a much larger extend French rather than Flemish) >> in Dutch / Flemish by default. And not a bilingual version which would be at >> least normal (for me) >> >> Thanks for the work > > Yes, that's not good. The language of Brussels should either be bilingual, or > depend on the language settings of the user (which is possible when using > vector data). So the situation for OSM in Brussels is good IMO (the name tag > is bilingual, and there's data present to make a French or Dutch map when > wanted). > > But I wonder what to do with municipalities that have language facilities. > Having language facilities doesn't mean they are completely bilingual, but > that inhabitants have the option to use the other language. IMO, that's > represented best by having only one language in the name tag, with > translations in the name:lg tags (so search in that language works, and the > map can be rendered in that language). > > Meanwhile I did some statistical research on the different municipalities > with language facilities (only the nl-fr ones, not the ones with German > facilities or German ones with French facilities). > > Of all streets in all those municipalities, around 91% had a name, but only > 26% had name:fr and name:nl tags. Such a low quality is really sad to see. > > In 46% of the streetnames, I could recognise a typical French element (tested > on Rue, Chemin, Boulevard, Fausée and Avenue), and in 40% of the streets, I > could recognise a typical Dutch element (tested on straat, weg, laan, dreef > and baan). While only in 17% of the cases, I could recognise both a French > and Dutch element (so use a combined name). > > Now, I split the list up in categories: 6 Flemish language-border > municipalities, 6 Flemish municipalities around Brussels and 4 Walloon > municipalities. The situation differs a lot between those cases. I could > recognise Dutch and French elements in 50% of the streets around Brussels, > while only 3% in the other Flemish municipalities (vs 53% Dutch elements > only), and 6% in the Walloon municipalities (vs 60% French elements only). > The municipalities around Brussels also have a lot more name:nl and name:fr > tags (70% vs 3% and 12%). > > So it looks like the m
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Taalfaciliteiten + taalgrens + straatnamen
Le 2015-12-01 14:32, Marc Gemis a écrit : On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Sander Deryckere wrote: @Marc: Nominatim is hardly a reference for this. I know, but when you first visit OpenStreetMap and look for your street, you are using Nominatim. If your street is not found, OSM is "worthless" and you might never return to it. The first impression is important in this case. Any solution for this problem is fine for me. regards m ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be I also tend to think that we should find a solution the let any user find the street with any name in Nominatim, especially in this bilingual region. I think that our united and peaceful Belgian OSM community can lead the way here again. For example, I find particularly irritating to note that some commercial car guidance (often called "car gps") with included commercial maps or commercial mapping systems on the web, do offer the region of Brussels (which is bilingual but to a much larger extend French rather than Flemish) in Dutch / Flemish by default. And not a bilingual version which would be at least normal (for me) Thanks for the work Nicolas -- Nicolas Pettiaux, phd - nico...@pettiaux.be Dans une société libre, la connaissance est librement accessible à tous OpenForum.be [1] - où l'on discute OpenAccess et libre accès, les 2è jeudi à 18h30 Links: -- [1] http://OpenForum.be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] some osm.be statistics
Le Tue, 3 Nov 2015 09:06:02 +, Ben Abelshausen a écrit : > What could also help: someone native french speaking to help with the > twitter account. Now we mostly tweet in NL and EN. I would with pleasure tweet for osm-be in French. Regards, Nicolas ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM.be & SOTM
Yes. we are looking for many volunteers to help eg. with all the details of logistics and organizations, during the conference, befire ad after. A lst could be found on the RMLL web site. Thanks, Nicolas Le ven 6 nov 2015 à 7:29, Marc Gemis a écrit : Should we start placing info/teasers on osm.be about SOTM 2016 ? regards m ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] some osm.be statistics
Much thanks Joost for the analysis and the data. I understand it as the following ; more people know & use OSM in Flanders than in Brussels & Wallonie, and we therefore have to work on developping its awareness . Regards, Nicolas ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapper of the month: Vincent Van Eyken
Much thanks. Always very pleasant to read. Nicolas Le mer 30 sep 2015 à 21:51, Jorieke Vyncke a écrit : Jaja, ook september heeft een mapper van de maand! Sorry dat het zolang duurde eer het op osm.be verscheen, mijn fout. Bedankt voor de vertaling en opvolging Pierre en Marc! Oui oui, aussi septembre a un contributeur du mois ! Désolé pour le poster si tard sur osm.be ; ma faute. Merci pour le traduction et le suivi Pierre et Marc ! Fr. http://osm.be/fr/content/contributeur-du-mois-vincent-van-eyken Nl. http://osm.be/nl/content/mapper-van-de-maand-vincent-van-eyken En. http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/escada/diary/35793 A côté cela, on est aussi à la recherche des gens qui veulent nous aider avec traduire (surtout le francais)! Donc si vous aimez 'le contributeur du mois', aidez nous! Hiernaast zijn we ook op zoek naar mensen die ons willen helpen met vertalen (vooral naar het Frans)! Dus als jullie 'de mapper van de maand' leuk vinden, hier is je kans! Groetjes, Jorieke ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] For Jo
Much thanks to Andre. This clearly shows that the creativity comes also from the existence of constraints Nicolas À sam. sept. 12 19:06:52 2015 GMT+0200, Jo a écrit : > Oh no! Now I feel compelled to follow in his footsteps, but I don't have a > motorcycle. It's going to take me 30 years to visit them all... > > I could buy the book, of course, but then it would be impossible to > contribute them to OSM. > > > спасибо. Андре > > 2015-09-12 18:39 GMT+02:00 André Pirard : > > > For Jo > > <http://tempsreel.nouvelobs.com/galeries-photos/culture/20150911.OBS5665/grand-format-il-a-photographie-1-000-arrets-de-bus-de-l-ex-urss.html> > > . > > > > André. > > > > ___ > > Talk-be mailing list > > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > > > > -- Envoyé depuis mon Jolla ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] IGN/NGI/NGI/NGI too now using OpenStreetMap
Dear In March, I have met the directeur général adjoint of IGN during a meeting about GIS in Belgium where I represented the OSM.BE team (Ben had been invited too and I have coordinated with him) and he let me know that he would be willing to share data with us. We could prepare to go and meet officially (as the OSM-be representatives) IGN to discussi licences, compatibility and mutual help. Who is interested ? Best regards, Nicolas Le dim 6 sep 2015 à 21:45, André Pirard a écrit : Hi, In their now official Cartesius project, IGN/NGI/NGI/NGI et al. too are now using OpenStreetMap (click Basemap). It would have been surprising that NGI did not display the OSM © notice ;-) Please notice that they reproduce without a frown the OSM mapping of the so-called © NGI boundaries that we "cannot copy yet" (belonging to the various successive governments (French and Belgian mainly)) ! Cheers , André. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] missing affiliation on BIPT website
Thanks Olivier for letting us know I know personnally a member of the board of IPBT (Charles Cuvelliez, see http://www.bipt.be/fr/operateurs/ibpt/le-conseil) whom I can contact on behalf of the OSM-be community to say something like "We appreciate that OSM be used by IBPT but we would like that OSM be properly cited as requested by the licence". Would any of you have ideas or suggestions (and the time) to contribute to the letter that I would send ? Best regards, Nicolas Le mer 26 aoû 2015 à 23:45, Oliver a écrit : The Belgian Institute for Postal services and Telecommunications (BIPT) has used OSM data at [1], without providing the proper affiliation [2]. I cannot find if a member of the OSM community has contacted the BIPT to rectify this, other than the attempt made by user "Cheezycrust" to get them to consider using OSM maps on a different page of theirs [3]. I'm checking the mailing list to make sure I don't spam them if someone already brought this to their attention. Also, I'm asking if there's a typical template used in situations as these? [1] http://www.bipt.be/nl/consumenten/telefoon/dienstkwaliteit/dekkingskaarten [2] https://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright [3]: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Mapping_resources#GSM.2FUMTS_antenna_sites ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] SOTM 2016 and meetings
Much thanks Joost for the mail, the news and the already long list of tasks we can examine. In many circumstances, we all work under tight deadlines, but if we can manage to have less it will also save stress for many of us, as well as permit more. I have in mind for example that having a precise document with dates, times, locations, numbers, names of confirmed speakers (aka a pre-program) ... as soon as possible would help very much to go to sponsors and obtain funding, especially to the public administrations and ministerial cabinets. And these require always time to answer, not to say that many of them work annually, meaning that, if we want to have some public funding for 2016, we should enter a proper form before (I suppose) something like end of November 2015. I am ready to go to some of these institutions in Brussels (the city, the region) where I have contacts, but I know, as said above, that to be considered seriously, even by the most friendly people, we should have a proper document. This is the reason why, for example, the organisation of the RMLL (Rencontres mondiales des logiciels libres) ask for a complete file to select the future location ... and the team. The SOTM selection also ask for such a document and much information, but, on the basis of what I know and have seen, we should continue to work on the organization and provide some precisions in order to have a good "dossier" to present to the funders. About the meeting at ESI, I would propose to do an precise mapping party, to go further in the direction that we have browsed in April last year and for example, organize a "josm training for cyclist" (for example) to teach to the participants how to use josm, especially to advance the cycling map of Brussels (or any city to involve more interested participants). And after such an activity, propose to the ones who want to go on with the discussion around SOTM. Doing so, I think we could both move further in a direction that was asked for in April (by some who came to the activity and were frustrated as we did not have the time to really work with josm) as well as do something precise about SOTM, for the ones who want. And I'll do taht with a framadate proposal (a free equivalent to doodle) that I prefer. I'll do that sometimes next week, Best regards, Nicolas Le 2015-08-24 22:06, joost schouppe a écrit : > Hi all, > > It is a long way off, but the SOTM team is getting started already. We > already looked into several locations, we kind of picked a logo, we found a > nice designer too. We're thinking of the VUB at the moment, because of some > problems with the ULB location. And there is still a chance that we might > work with the European Parliament, but that is still up in the air. > > For the time being, there aren't that many tasks. But it would be great to > start building our volunteer network now. I think it should be quite clear > that if we meet now, it will be more about ideas and community building than > actually working on tasks. So we do run the risk of wearing people out with > meetings without a real need (I sometimes feel the Meetups have that effect > on some of us). > The one exception maybe that we could start laying the foundation for a > website already, Ben Abelshausen is setting up a Github space as we speak. > > I guess the lack of much concrete actions is why the SOTM hasn't been talking > so much. As Rob mentioned today, SOTM is used to working under thight > deadlines. This having-a-lot-of-time is a wholly different challenge. If > anyone is feeling excluded, don't. Join. We're also going to send more > frequent updates to this list from now on. > To give you an idea of the kind of things will have to get done, this is from > the "talent matrix". Some of these task could really use a hand. > > Nicholas, if you can arrange the ESI on any day, I would suggest to make a > Doodle with a wide variety of options (daytime, evening, weekend, weekday) to > see who wants to come and what is best for everyone. > > Sponsorship - developing sponsorship pack / tiers > Sponsorship - Local > Sponsorship - International > Ticket sales - coordinating > Budget - bookkeeper > Scholarship program > Scholarship committee (to review scholarship requests) > Venue (co-ordination with venue company) > Accommodation > Catering > Social events > Wi-fi access > AV for presenters > Video Streaming > Merchandise / freebies > TShirts and Lanyards > Booklet / guide for attendees > Brand / Design / Logo > Website > Communication to OSM community- twitter, blogs, etc > Communication / outreach to non-OSM community (open source/data, etc) > Communication / outreach for promotion (local media, newsprint e
Re: [OSM-talk-be] SOTM 2016 and meetings
Dear Ben THe largest room is big enough ... only to gather the people who will take care of the preparation. My proposal is to meet sometimes, starting next month, for the preparation of SOTM, not SOTM itself ! Regards Nicolas Le lun 24 aoû 2015 à 16:10, Ben Laenen a écrit : On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 11:02 PM, Nicolas Pettiaux wrote: ESI is well located centrally, close to Central station, if has the infrastructure (as it is a computing school), and I can most probably obtain the room for free. Does it have big enough rooms? Because the pictures in the gallery on its website only show small classrooms. If a thousand people are coming we may need to have at least one auditorium that can seat a few hundred. Ben ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Meetup
Dear Joost & Ruben, Thanks for the idea and the organization. I am in Brussels during the week. During the week-end, I can move. I can help with the organization of a "beery" activity around Etterbeek or Ixelles. The campus of ESI (very close to Central station in Brussels) is accessible on Saturday mornings as we did last year. Best regards, Nicolas Le 2015-08-24 11:10, Ruben De Smet a écrit : I just checked my schedule (saw the hackaton appear on meetup) and the week of the 24th, my University (Vrije Universiteit Brussel, the Flemish version of FOSDEM's university Université Libre de Bruxelles/ULB) sessions start again. I saw the 25th, I have a college to attend at 8 o'clock. I could come by and have a look, although my attendace would be short. I don't mind hacky nor beery by the way. Both of them are great. Apparently I have college every day at 8:00, except for Wednesdays, where I only start at 13 o'clock. I'm near Antwerp for the weekends and in Brussels for the weeks. I can probably get something organised at the Etterbeek campus too. -- Nicolas Pettiaux, phd - nico...@pettiaux.be Open@work - Une Société libre utilise des outils libres ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] SOTM 2016 and meetings
Dear OSM-be community, We have engaged in the organization of organization of the 2016 edition of SOTM. So far, a smaller group of people around Ben, have lead the way to transform into reality a possible crazy but interesting idea that I have shared with you. SOTM 2016 will be organized in the second half of 2016 in Brussels, and even it it is about one year ahead of us, this year will pass by very quickly. SOTM 2016 could, following Christian Quest of OSM-Fr (in cc), whom I have met recently, gather 1000 people. THis is not a small number of people. THe resulting event would not be a small one. OSM-Fr people have decided NOT to propose to organize SOTM 2016, but work with us (the Belgians) to propose a beautiful and very interesting SOTM event. I think it could interesting to open the discussion to more members of the community as well as to these French friends, and organize regular events to 1/ see and get to know each other in real life to be better prepared to share the workload, 2/ setup a large enough team to support the workload. We could consider monthly meetings supporting online effective collaboration. I therefore propose herewith, if not yet proposed otherwise and compatible with Ben"s views and the SOTM expectations, to organize at ESI in September the first of such event to organize SOTM 2016 in Brussels. What do you think ? ESI is well located centrally, close to Central station, if has the infrastructure (as it is a computing school), and I can most probably obtain the room for free. Hope to read you on this proposal. Best regards, Nicolas -- Nicolas Pettiaux, phd - nico...@pettiaux.be Open@work - Une Société libre utilise des outils libres ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapper of the month!
Much thanks agin Jorieke and the whole Motm team. I have mush pleasure reading these interviews and getting to know a little better one of the active members of our community. Regards, Nicolas Le 2015-08-22 19:53, Jorieke Vyncke a écrit : Hello Belgian mappers, Here you can find the interview with the mapper of the month of august: Matthieu Gaillet! French: http://osm.be/fr/content/contributeur-du-mois-matthieu-gaillet Dutch: http://osm.be/nl/content/mapper-van-de-maand-matthieu-gaillet English: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/escada/diary/35563 Best greetings, Jorieke -- Nicolas Pettiaux, phd - nico...@pettiaux.be Open@work - Une Société libre utilise des outils libres ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] [okfn-be] Francken wil nationale stratenlijst als open data
Dear, Just a little note to let you know that together with Christian Quest, the coordinator of the BAN (Base Adresse Nationale) from the Etalab mission and one of the founder of OpenStreetMap France, I met yesterday Michiel Mentens, advisor for the Simplification administrative - Administratieve vereenvoudigheid of Minister Theo Francken. We have discussed the French experience around such a unique source of addresses at national level, the benefit it brings and the difficulties to make it happen. We have also addressed many linked topics and subject. We had a very good and productive contact, opening many opportunities for further collaborations. Best regards, Nicolas Le 22/07/15 01:04, nico...@pettiaux.be a écrit : > As posted on the osm-be list I wanted to propose soon a belgian project like > the French Bano under the leadership of osm-be. I firmly think the we (the > enlarged osm-be community) are the best entitled to drive such a project. > > How can we get in touch with mr Francken or his teams to share this idea with > them ? > > Thanks > > Nicolas > > Ps regards from Boston > > À lun. juil. 20 10:12:09 2015 GMT-0400, alex a écrit : >> http://datanews.knack.be/ict/nieuws/francken-wil-nationale-stratenlijst-als-open-data/article-normal-587845.html >> ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] [CC-be] [okfn-be] Green light for the federal open data strategy
Dear Mr Mentens As coordinator of http://lepacte.be and http://hetpact.be, I thank you very much for your work and efforts. I would like to meet you soon to discuss other ideas that could help develop Belgian présence in the digital world and bring some important savings and help develop the SMEs that are so important for our economy. Best regards Nicolas Pettiaux À ven. juil. 24 07:11:13 2015 GMT-0400, Michiel Mentens a écrit : > and more happy sharing > > here: http://www.tijd.be/r/t/1/id/9658145 > and here: https://twitter.com/tijd/status/624528865701023744 > > thx community for your input! > > 2015-07-24 12:28 GMT+02:00 Pieter Colpaert : > > > Hi Open Knowledge BE, OSM BE and CC BE, > > > > A couple of us have been giving feedback to the federal government > > regarding their open data strategy. Today, the strategy has been approved > > by the ministerial council: > > > > > > http://www.openknowledge.be/2015/07/24/green-light-for-the-belgian-federal-open-data-strategy/ > > > > The strategy contains a lot of our recommendations. We thus can only look > > forward to a bright future of open data in Belgium. The strategy provides > > extremely interesting points for e.g., the OSM community: all data should > > be able to be imported in Open Street Map, or the open transport working > > group (SNCB is part of the strategy). And last but not least, the standard > > license they aim at is CC0. > > > > For the tweeps out here: > > https://twitter.com/OpenKnowledgeBE/status/624518681456963584. Feel free > > to share on other social media. > > > > Kind regards, > > > > Pieter > > > > -- > > +32 486 74 71 22 > > > > Board of directors > > Open Knowledge Belgium > > http://openknowledge.be > > > > International Open Transport community > > http://transport.okfn.org > > > > Belgian Open Transport community > > http://transport.openknowledge.be > > > > ___ > > okfn-be mailing list > > okfn...@lists.okfn.org > > https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/listinfo/okfn-be > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.okfn.org/mailman/options/okfn-be > > > > > > -- > Michiel > -- Envoyé depuis mon Jolla ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Green light for the federal open data strategy
Congratulation and much thanks for the work This is indeed very good news for us Nicolas À ven. juil. 24 06:28:18 2015 GMT-0400, Pieter Colpaert a écrit : > Hi Open Knowledge BE, OSM BE and CC BE, > > A couple of us have been giving feedback to the federal government > regarding their open data strategy. Today, the strategy has been > approved by the ministerial council: > > http://www.openknowledge.be/2015/07/24/green-light-for-the-belgian-federal-open-data-strategy/ > > The strategy contains a lot of our recommendations. We thus can only > look forward to a bright future of open data in Belgium. The strategy > provides extremely interesting points for e.g., the OSM community: all > data should be able to be imported in Open Street Map, or the open > transport working group (SNCB is part of the strategy). And last but not > least, the standard license they aim at is CC0. > > For the tweeps out here: > https://twitter.com/OpenKnowledgeBE/status/624518681456963584. Feel free > to share on other social media. > > Kind regards, > > Pieter > > -- > +32 486 74 71 22 > > Board of directors > Open Knowledge Belgium > http://openknowledge.be > > International Open Transport community > http://transport.okfn.org > > Belgian Open Transport community > http://transport.openknowledge.be > > > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > -- Envoyé depuis mon Jolla ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapper of the month
Congratulations and much thanks. I like very much to know someone frol the community a little better thanks to these interviews. Nicolas À mer. juil. 22 17:38:59 2015 GMT-0400, Jorieke Vyncke a écrit : > Hello Belgian mappers, > > It is already the 22nd of the month, but it is still July. > > So here our mapper of the month: Marc Gemis! > > FR: http://osm.be/fr/content/contributeur-du-mois-marc-gemis > NL: http://osm.be/nl/content/mapper-van-de-maand-marc-gemis > > A special thank goes to the translators in this holiday-months! > > Best greetings, > > Jorieke > > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > -- Envoyé depuis mon Jolla ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] Fwd: BeGeo 3/3/2016 : we zijn vertrokken - c'est parti! 15/9 14-17H (Diamant Brussel)
Dear all, I think we (the Belgian OSM) community can well participate in the BeGeo meeting, its organisation, and also with talks, eg. about the need for open data especially in GIS, the success it can bring to Society, and the success it has brought. This meeting can also be a good way to have many people in Belgium realize that we'll host SOTM in 2016 also, and draw people there. I think members of osm-be who participate actively in BeGeo should be allowaed to enter withou paying anything. ANd at least, osm-be should be considered as a partner, even if we do not pay anything (aswe are all volunteers). What do you think ? Regards, Nicolas Courriel original Objet: BeGeo 3/3/2016 : we zijn vertrokken - c'est parti! 15/9 14-17H (Diamant Brussel) Date: 2015-07-10 10:53 De: "DE LESTRE Tanguy (TDLS)" À: 'DEMARETS Xavier' , "'channecart@cirb.brussels'" <'channecart@cirb.brussels'>, 'Jan DE WAELE' , 'Jan Pootemans' , "'Ingrid VANDEN BERGHE'" , 'Jan De Naeyer' , Joris Sanders , "Jean-Yves PIRLOT" , Henri Van Oosterwyck , "bdelathou...@opengeospatial.org" , "pieter.colpa...@gmail.com" , Jean Claude Jasselette , Auquiere Eric , Nicolas Pettiaux , "ben.abelshau...@okfn.org" , Fransaer Dirk , "steven.krek...@vito.be" , "rbil...@ulg.ac.be" , Hannecart Claude , "Hannay, Albert, BEGX" , "wim.br...@landmeter-expert.org" , "Bogaert Peter" Cc: "'vital.schre...@gim.be' (vital.schre...@gim.be)" , "Sense-Herman (her...@sensebv.nl)" NL FR - ci dessous Beste partner De kogel is door de kerk: 3 maart 2016 wordt de datum voor de nieuwe beurs/congres/ontmoetingsplaats BeGeo in The Egg, Brussel. AGORIA en het Nationaal Geografische Instituut, met als ondersteunende partner Sense, hebben als initiatiefnemers u al ingelicht over het voornemen. Recent heeft ook de AGIV aangegeven te willen aansluiten, mits de eerste BeGeo in maart 2016 wordt georganiseerd. De initiatiefnemers hebben nu definitief besloten om 3 maart 2016 te kiezen als datum en bereid te zijn te investeren in BeGeo. Daarmee gaan wij de organisatie opstarten. Onze ambitie is om BeGeo met partners te organiseren. Wij zijn content dat velen al aangegeven hebben dat BeGeo een goed initiatief is en te willen aansluiten Sommigen met een financiële bijdrage, sommigen met programma-ondersteuning en sommigen met communicatieondersteuning. Het partnerschap kan op verschillende manieren vorm gegeven worden. Het is ook mogelijk om eigen bijeenkomsten ren activiteiten te integreren in BeGeo. Dat biedt voordelen. Wij hebben de ambitie om de toegangsprijs voor deelnemers zo laag mogelijk te houden. De exacte toegangsprijs is afhankelijk van de hoeveelheid partners die ook financieel willen bijdragen. De prijs wordt in oktober vast gesteld, als de partners hebben kunnen nadenken over hun bijdrage. Nu wij definitief doorgaan met de organisatie van BeGeo nodigen wij u uit voor een overleg Op 15 september 14-17 in het Diamantgebouw in Brussel voor een eerste partnervergadering. Wij doen u dan een voorstel voor het aansluiten als partner met diverse partnerpakketten. Tevens presenteren wij u dan de opzet van het programma en inventariseren ook de wensen om eigen activiteiten op te nemen in het programma. De partnerpakketten zullen wij u voor het overleg toesturen, zodat u hier over kunt nadenken en op het overleg al uw standpunt kunt geven of u aansluit als partner en op welke wijze. De Agenda is: 1. update rond BeGeo : presentatie beurs - en programma folder oproep 2. Mogelijkheden van partnerschap: - presentatie partnerpakketten - feedback/suggestie van verschillende partners over eigen bijdrage in 2016 3. programma: inhoudelijke bijdrage en suggesties sprekers (* zie thema's) 4. volgende stappen : datum volgende programma comités 21/10 14-17u 17/11 14-17u Gelieve uw aanwezigheid te bevestigen. Met vriendeljke groeten, (*) Voorgestelde thema's: Op BeGeo komen diverse thema's aan bod. Deze thema's inspireren om voorstellen voor het programma in te dienen : * Geo-locatie als strategische beleidsondersteuning: smart city, smart government * GEO als ondersteuning in een actieve beleidsvoering: voordelen voor publieke overheid en nutsmaatschappijen * UAS - Drones: geografische gegevens 'on demand' * Geospatial (Open) Data * Volunteer geography: iedereen is een maker * Standaarden UNGGIM, OGC, ISO, ... * GI adoptie: overzicht van use cases en trends waarbij geo-informatie gebruikt wordt en die aanleidinggeven tot meer productiviteit, innovatie en sociale voordelen * Verticale sectoren gebruiken geospatiale gegevens en verkrijgen enorme productiviteitwinsten * Volledige geo- workflows van aardobservatie tot smartphone alert * I
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: Programme du Users Club UrbIS du 11 juin 2015 / Programma voor de UrbIS Users Club van 11 juni 2015
Merci Julien pour l'info précise. Je propose de faire de cela un projet pour un étudiant de esi qui doit faire 4 mois de stage en entreprise. Si cela ne fait pas 4 mois de boulot on pourra bien sûr rajouter des sujets. Qu'en pensez vous ? Bonne journée Nicolas À lun. juin 29 05:22:30 2015 GMT-0400, Julien Fastré a écrit : > > > Le 28/06/15 13:42, Nicolas Pettiaux a écrit : > > Le 2015-06-12 9:43, Julien Fastré a écrit : > >> Hi ! > >> > >> I had a presentation yesterday. It was very fine, the audience reach +/- > >> 100 peoples from different administration of Brussels Capital Regio. > >> > >> Here are the slides : > >> http://fr.slideshare.net/Julienfastre/openstreetmap-et-urbis-urbis-user-club-11-juin-201511-juni-2015 > >> > > > > Bravo Julien et grand merci. > > > > Je lis que 630 batiments de Bruxelles ville ne sont pas dans OSM. > > > > Je propose l'organisation d'une cartopartie à Bruxelles ville en août > > ou septembre pour mapper ces batiments qui manque. Et faire cela avec > > la participation et le soutien de 1/ la ville de Bruxelles > > 2/ de l'association du tourisme de Bruxelles, 3/ de l'association des > > brasseurs et restaurateurs bruxellois, 4/ du Gracq. > > > > Qu'en pensez-vous ? > > > > Nicolas > > > Salut, > > D'après les conversations que j'ai eu avec emerzh, il ne s'agit pas > forcément de bâtiments manquants. > > Soit : > > - la référence n'a pas été ajoutée à l'objet dans OSM, mais le bâtiment > y est ; > - les données d'URBIS utilisées ne sont pas à jour (seules celles de > 2013 ont été transformées en fichiers .osm et sont facilement > utilisables), et les bâtiments n'existent plus > > Donc il faudrait identifier d'abord ces 630 bâtiments, et voir ce qu'il > en est. > > Après la discussion avec Urbis et de ce que j'en ai vu, il y aurait > deux-trois choses à faire : > > - mettre en place une routine pour avoir des données urbis à jour en > fichiers .osm ; > - continuer la comparaison entre les données .osm et les fichiers urbis > à jour (nb de bâtiments manquants, localisation) > > Pour ces deux points il faudrait trouver quelqu'un qui a du temps et les > connaissances pour le faire... > > Et puis, chose simple, il faudrait renseigner le WMS avec les > orthophotos d'URBIS dans JOSM, comme cela a été fait avec la Région > Wallonne et l'AGIV. > > Julien > > -- Envoyé depuis mon Jolla ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: Programme du Users Club UrbIS du 11 juin 2015 / Programma voor de UrbIS Users Club van 11 juni 2015
Le 2015-06-12 9:43, Julien Fastré a écrit : Hi ! I had a presentation yesterday. It was very fine, the audience reach +/- 100 peoples from different administration of Brussels Capital Regio. Here are the slides : http://fr.slideshare.net/Julienfastre/openstreetmap-et-urbis-urbis-user-club-11-juin-201511-juni-2015 Bravo Julien et grand merci. Je lis que 630 batiments de Bruxelles ville ne sont pas dans OSM. Je propose l'organisation d'une cartopartie à Bruxelles ville en août ou septembre pour mapper ces batiments qui manque. Et faire cela avec la participation et le soutien de 1/ la ville de Bruxelles 2/ de l'association du tourisme de Bruxelles, 3/ de l'association des brasseurs et restaurateurs bruxellois, 4/ du Gracq. Qu'en pensez-vous ? Nicolas -- Nicolas Pettiaux, phd - nico...@pettiaux.be Open@work - Une société libre utilise des outils libres «Apprendre aux élèves à utiliser les produits privateurs de Microsoft, Google ou Oracle, c'est comme leur apprendre à fumer. C'est leur donner une habitude coûteuse, dangereuse et dont ils se déferont difficilement.» Richard Stallman ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Cycle surveying party in Brussels ?
L'idée est excellente et doit être poursuivie par celui qui en a l'énergie. Lors de la rencontre mapping party à ESI le samedi 24 avril dernier, le président du Gracq était personnellement présent et il s'est montré intéressé. Très même. Mais il faut, et personnellement je suis trop occupé pour pouvoir prendre en charge ce projet, le recontacter et faire des propositions précises au gracq de ce qui pourrait être fait avec eux : par exemple dans un premier temps écrire un papier de présentation et d'explication dans la gazette du gracq expliquant le projet et renvoyant vers des vidéos et des séminaires où la formation serait effectivement faire. Qu'en pensez-vous ? Nicolas Nicolas Pettiaux, phd - nico...@pettiaux.be Open@work - Une société libre utilise des outils libres «Apprendre aux élèves à utiliser les produits privateurs de Microsoft, Google ou Oracle, c'est comme leur apprendre à fumer. C'est leur donner une habitude coûteuse, dangereuse et dont ils se déferont difficilement.» Richard Stallman ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Bruxelles centre : nouveau piétonnier
I love it. The map on http://plandecirculation.be/fr is based on OSM and invites explicitely to edit. Shall write it in the communiqué de presse -- Nicolas Pettiaux, phd - nico...@pettiaux.be Open@work - Une société libre utilise des outils libres «Apprendre aux élèves à utiliser les produits privateurs de Microsoft, Google ou Oracle, c'est comme leur apprendre à fumer. C'est leur donner une habitude coûteuse, dangereuse et dont ils se déferont difficilement.» Richard Stallman ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Bruxelles centre : nouveau piétonnier
Much thanks for the idea and the work. How can the new "pietonnier" be viewed on OSM ? Is is finished yet ? If not, when will it probably be ? What remains to be done ? How could I help ? Shouldn't we celebrate, and doing so for example, map explicitely every bar and restaurant in the center of Brussels, and while doing so, write down some important information about such places : their names, specialities, opening times, website, telephone number, accessibility info, kind of food served or of beer served ... ? Should we write a press release to inform the users that OSM-be is ready for the new arrangement and is probably the first online map to be so. So it should also work for routting. I have started https://annuel.framapad.org/p/PsmBxl20150628 and I would like some help for the content (to be sure to write something that is true) and the translation to English and Flemisch Nicolas -- Nicolas Pettiaux, phd - nico...@pettiaux.be Open@work - Une société libre utilise des outils libres «Apprendre aux élèves à utiliser les produits privateurs de Microsoft, Google ou Oracle, c'est comme leur apprendre à fumer. C'est leur donner une habitude coûteuse, dangereuse et dont ils se déferont difficilement.» Richard Stallman ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Wallonia to publish data from OSM
Great news. Much thanks. Could you write a post on the topic that could for example be published on OSM.be and that we could tweet on ? Much thanks for sharing, Nicolas Le Ven 5 juin 2015 10:05, Julien Fastré a écrit : > Hi, > > Yesterday, I had a technical meeting with SPW about publishing data on > their geoportail (http://geportail.wallonie.be). > > They are going to test a way to export data from osm database with their > platform and publish it on their portail. I will write the metadata > information (if someone is interested in participating, please raise > your hand :-) ). > > I think it's a good news that they are ready to dive into manipulating > osm data. I am in backup if they encounter difficulties. > > The first dataset will be a list of amenities (objects with tag > amenity=*). It will be available under a csv and shapefile format, and > should be updated every week. > > The dataset should be published in late September. > > Regards, > Julien Fastré > > > > > > Le 13/03/15 15:46, Julien Fastré a écrit : >> Hi, >> >> Second news about Wallonia / Service public de Wallonie. >> >> From OpenBelgium we started a discussion with SPW. >> >> 1. They would be happy to publish data from OSM on the geoportail >> (http://geoportail.wallonie.be) ! >> >> The idea is to help people to find data without having to learn how to >> export them from OSM. They also have the will to support / help the >> contributor's work, and let this work known by the public. >> >> Currently, a first proposal of dataset to publish is a csv list of all >> amenities in Wallonia. This would be useful for people who do not have >> knowledge to export data from osm. >> >> The second proposal which was discussed was vector data about walking >> route (chemins balisés) (as here : >> http://hikebikemap.org/?zoom=13&lat=50.46&lon=5.88). They have data >> about Voies lentes >> (http://geoportail.wallonie.be/cms/render/live/en/sites/geoportail/home/geocatalogue.html?mdUUID=ef6dff90-aa13-41af-acbd-39ed8af6800d), >> they might add data about local routes on the geoportal, in a shapefile >> or GML form. >> >> Do you have other proposals which might be interesting to publish ? The >> criteria are : provide useful things, or things we are proud to provide >> (because it does not exists elsewhere, or because it is quite complete). >> >> 2. They are also thinking about using OSM tiles on WalOnMap. We will be >> invited to a meeting about this topic soon. >> >> Step by step, things goes progressing... >> >> Julien >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Talk-be mailing list >> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >> > > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > -- Nicolas Pettiaux - nico...@pettiaux.be Soutenons april.org , framasoft.org et laquadrature.net ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] een mapping party in Gent
Ik ben geinteresseerd voor zoo'n party tussen 1 augustus en 23 augustus of na 1 septembre. mvg Nicolas À jeu. juin 4 09:16:40 2015 GMT+0200, joost schouppe a écrit : > Hoi allen, > > Ik had al eens wat ideetjes gelanceerd in beperkte groep voor een mapping > party in Gent. Heeft er iemand zin om daar mee in te vliegen? En zijn er > mensen die een introductie JOSM willen komen geven of anderszins willen > helpen? Ik zou het ergens in juli of augustus willen doen. Focus op POI's. > > * Motivatie: > Waar we het verschil met Google Maps kunnen maken is bij de ondernemer, de > hipster en de lokale overheid. Google is te traag voor de ondernemer met > een nieuw project, zet de dingen pas online als ze niet meer hip zijn en > heeft minder aandacht voor de gebieden die een lokale overheid net onder de > aandacht wil brengen. In Gent ben ik zeker dat we wat steun zouden krijgen > van overheidswege als we Bart Rosseau wat uitleg geven over het plan. En > die zal wel contacten hebben bij mensen die alternatieve winkelstraten in > de verf willen zetten. Die zouden kunnen helpen met promotie (het boekske > van Gent?) en misschien wel een locatie voor pre- en post op straat gaan. > > Waarom het idee van een Map-my-Shop Party mij zo aanspreekt, is omdat het > werkt op deze drie zwakten: > - Openstreetmap is nog niet bekend genoeg. > - Openstreetmap heeft te weinig POIs > - Er doen véél te weinig vrouwen aan Openstreetmap > > Ik zou de promotie wat ludiek en ironisch sexistisch houden. Iets in de > stijl van "Mapping nerd zoekt vrouw om mee te gaan shoppen". "Mannen enkel > toegestaan mits ze een vrouw meenemen." > > > * Als we dan toch bezig zijn: > Wat betreft fietspaden of toegankelijkheid. De toegankelijkheid van stoepen > en winkels lijkt mij absoluut iets dat dit een socialer kantje kan geven. > En speciale aandacht voor de fietsinfrastructuur (een kaart die toont waar > fietsers niet tegen de richting mogen, of waar de lastige kasseien liggen > en de fietsenstallingen zijn) lijkt mij absoluut ook perfect te combineren > met het thema. > > * Organisatorisch: > Vóór het echte mappen: geen presentaties. Gewoon aan de mensen vragen > smartphones mee te nemen, een aantal tools installeren, wat uitleg over > papierwerk, en dan op de baan. Best in groepjes van twee of drie personen > om zoveel mogelijk terrein te beslaan. > > Onderweg: > * verdeel een flyer met basisinfo: wat is OSM, wie zijn deze zotten en > waarom willen ze mij gratis helpen > * verdeel een sticker om ergens in de gemapte winkel te zetten: iets als > Tthis time you had to look for this place. Next time, just use > OpenStreetMap" > * neem fiches mee om basisgegevens in te invullen > * fieldnotes om het overzicht te houden > * eventueel rechtstreeks toevoegen gegevens via Osmand? Mogelijk nog niet > direct als POI maar als note. > * onderweg mapillary streetview foto's maken (ware ideaal als we zo'n 360° > camera te pakken zouden krijgen) > > Achteraf: > * invoeren van de gegevens via verschillende editors > * ervaren JOSM mappers nodig voor dingen als compexe openingsuren > * Laat het resultaat zien, stel in het licht dat OSM niet gewoon een > kaartje is, maar een doos Lego: > - hoe ziet het eruit op sites als http://www.openlinkmap.org/ , > http://openlovemap.de/ , http://thenextis.com/ (wifi, ATM) etc. > - toelichting over indoor mapping, over tagging, POI kaarten op maat via > umaps, over lokale data met wereldwijde community (en dus tools en > zichtbaarheid) > > Groeten, > Joost > -- Envoyé depuis mon Jolla ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] About what I think that we can write and not write on a mailing list
Le mardi 02 juin 2015 à 08:12 +0200, Marc Ducobu a écrit : > I agree too. +1 ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] RAVELS : changement de dénomination
Bonjour Matthieu, Merci pour l'information et la proposition de suivi. D'après ce que je vois du site web (par ailleurs sur ma machine plus lent et plus lourd que OSM et openCycleMap) la licence n'est pas compatible avec OSM . Dommage. C'est peut-être un point à traiter avec les créateurs du site pour commencer ? Et aussi sur le long terme, leur proposer uen collaboration formelle avec la communauté OSM. Qu'en penses-tu ? Bien à toi, Nicolas Le 28/05/15 13:27, Matthieu Gaillet a écrit : Salut à tous, Du boulot pour nous en perspective : Nous vous informons que ces appellations RAVeL 1, 2, 3, 4 et 5 vont disparaître et être remplacées par 10 nouveaux itinéraires régionaux de longue distance et 4 internationaux. Un nouveau site Internet RAVeL est en cours de développement. Il sera prêt pour fin 2015. La nouvelle version des cartes RAVeL papier, qui sera publiée en juin 2015, intégrera déjà la référence aux nouveaux itinéraires régionaux et internationaux. http://ravel.wallonie.be/opencms/opencms/fr/parcours/presentation_generale.html <http://ravel.wallonie.be/opencms/opencms/fr/parcours/presentation_generale.html> Y a-t-il un mappeur en particulier qui suit de près les ravels ? Sinon je veux bien coordonner les efforts pour mettre à jour les cartes et sans doute faire une petite remise à niveau, il me semble avoir constaté qu’il y avait de temps à autre des ruptures dans ces liaisons. Mais avant toute chose, avons-nous une déclaration de libération des données et l’autorisation de se référer à ce site web ? Matthieu ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be <>___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] OpenData/OpenStreetMap et Waterloo 1815
Bonjour, Je reçois ce message d'une personne rencontrée hier et qui collecte les dates liées à Waterloo 2015. André voudrait bien faire des cartes avec OSM et inclure ses données dans OSM ou un outil lié. Je lui ai parlé de umap. Merci de l'aider et maintenir la communauté OSM au courant. Avec les célébrations de Waterloo 2015 le 18 juin prochain, cela pourrait bien être une prochaine vitrine pour nous tous (André et la communauté OSM) Bien à vous, Nicolas Message transféré De: André Heughebaert À: nico...@pettiaux.be Objet: OpenData/OpenStreetMap Date: Thu, 21 May 2015 15:30:50 +0200 Bonjour Nicolas, Ce petit mail suite à notre discussion à la conférence Empowering Biodiversity Research * La cartographie de la Campagne de Belgique en 1815 dont voici le lien (encore en Beta). http://www.junibis.be/ Je souhaite mettre ses données historiques sur OpenStreetMap et Linked data. A très bientôt, André (Charlie) Heughebaert ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] learn JOSM with Belgian settings
Le vendredi 22 mai 2015 à 08:04 +0200, Marc Gemis a écrit : > Did you manage to master JOSM ? thanks. Not yet had the time to dive into josm as I wanted, unfortunately I am now too busy with relational activities (with IGN, Agoria, Fondation Universitaire, president of ULB, rector of Univ Namur, Flemisch Open Data manager, vice-rector of Univ Liège, directors of Musées des beaux-arts and institut d'histoire naturelle, responsible of biodiversity.be ...) to do technical activities as I would like. I trust you all in the mean time. Much thanks. Regards, Nicolas > ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] learn JOSM with Belgian settings
Much thanks for your rapid answers Marc and Jo. Where do I download these presets to JOSM ? Where can I find a video tutorial of GOOD quality to teach me JOSM ? THanks, Nicolas -- Nicolas Pettiaux, phd - nico...@pettiaux.be Open@work - Une société libre utilise des outils libres «Apprendre aux élèves à utiliser les produits privateurs de Microsoft, Google ou Oracle, c'est comme leur apprendre à fumer. C'est leur donner une habitude coûteuse, dangereuse et dont ils se déferont difficilement.» Richard Stallman ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] SOTM 2016 : postpone Bxl proposal to 2017
Dear all, I have had a look at the 3 proposals for SOTM 2016 as mentioned in http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2016/Call_for_venues The proposal for Montréal (Canada) contains a verry interesting, not reproducible feature : alinging SOTM with the 2016 FSM Forum social mondial that will take place in Montréal in August 2016. I therefore propose that 1/ we postpose our proposal to 2017. THis will give us all the time to make a very strong proposal, and also to gather support, money and collaboration in order to make a very good SOTM in Brussels 2/ we support as much as we can Montréal 2016 proposal 3/ we manage to participate in the organization of SOTM 2016 to know from the inside what is needed for the organization (as much as possible, the organization of the yearly RMLL suppose that the organisers for year n take part in year n-1 at least to be trained and prepared) 3 bis/ we pull the people of OSM-fr in to help and support Montréal as much as they can. 4/ we go to SOTM 2016, enjoy the city (I go there already this summer) and participate to educate the numerous participants to FSM to becomre mappers. 5/ we let the OSM Foundation know about out plan. What do you think about my proposal ? Much thanks, Nicolas -- Nicolas Pettiaux, phd - nico...@pettiaux.be Open@work - Une société libre utilise des outils libres «Apprendre aux élèves à utiliser les produits privateurs de Microsoft, Google ou Oracle, c'est comme leur apprendre à fumer. C'est leur donner une habitude coûteuse, dangereuse et dont ils se déferont difficilement.» Richard Stallman ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] learn JOSM with Belgian settings
Dear all, I want to learn how to use JOSM and benefit from your work, and use the "belgian settings" whatever this is that as I suppose simplify the tasks. Where would you start from ? Where can I download the files ? Any written reference or video to watch ? Much thanks to you, Nicolas -- Nicolas Pettiaux, phd - nico...@pettiaux.be Open@work - Une société libre utilise des outils libres «Apprendre aux élèves à utiliser les produits privateurs de Microsoft, Google ou Oracle, c'est comme leur apprendre à fumer. C'est leur donner une habitude coûteuse, dangereuse et dont ils se déferont difficilement.» Richard Stallman ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] SOTM 2016 : dates ?
Dear all, SOTM 2016 can apparently take place rather easily at the beginning of august 2016. Would this be possible ? I am investigating other dates with the person in charge. Regards, Nicolas -- Nicolas Pettiaux, phd - nico...@pettiaux.be Open@work - Une société libre utilise des outils libres «Apprendre aux élèves à utiliser les produits privateurs de Microsoft, Google ou Oracle, c'est comme leur apprendre à fumer. C'est leur donner une habitude coûteuse, dangereuse et dont ils se déferont difficilement.» Richard Stallman ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] Thanks for 25/4/2015
Just a little work to thank everybody who as contributed to the cartoparty on April 25, 2015 at ESI. The participants, despite some trouble at the beginning with the wifi, have been happy and some collaboration, eg with Gracq or the administration of Brussels (Atrium) that takes care to register the accessibility of all shops in Brussels (thanks to a team of people going to EVERY shops in Brussels), are foreseen. I dream of the day when the administration will use and improve OSM every day, and these field collectors will work first to improve OSM. Special thanks to Marc (2, Gemis and Ducobu), Jo, Michel, Geneviève, Peter, Gaël. We have been asked now to do another party, focusing on using josm to add (a lot) of data. Best regards, Nicolas -- Nicolas Pettiaux, phd - nico...@pettiaux.be Open@work - Une société libre utilise des outils libres «Apprendre aux élèves à utiliser les produits privateurs de Microsoft, Google ou Oracle, c'est comme leur apprendre à fumer. C'est leur donner une habitude coûteuse, dangereuse et dont ils se déferont difficilement.» Richard Stallman ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] Article dans Le Soir du 24/4/2015
Bonjour, Aujourd'hui dans le journal Le Soir, en première page de la version électronique ce matin: Wheelmap, le Google Maps adapté aux fauteuils roulants Alain Jenotte Jeudi 23 avril 2015 Crée pour Berlin en 2010, une cartographie soucieuse des fauteuils roulants va se développer en Belgique. Bienvenue sur Le Soir 17h Je suis abonné et membre du Club du Soir === Je poste l'article complet dès que je peux (= quand je retrouve les codes de connexion de la famille) Bonne journée et j'espère à demain, Nicolas -- Nicolas Pettiaux, phd - npetti...@april.org «Apprendre aux élèves à utiliser les produits privateurs de Microsoft, Google ou Oracle, c'est comme leur apprendre à fumer. C'est leur donner une habitude coûteuse, dangereuse et dont ils se déferont difficilement.» Richard Stallman ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Cartopartie pour améliorer les cartes de Bruxelles pour les handicapés et les cyclistes ce samedi 25/4/2015 à Bruxelles
Le 2015-04-23 8:44, Marc Gemis a écrit : > Please keep in mind that cycleway/road/track mapping is one of the more > tricky things to do correctly. Don't expect too much from this. > Also for wheelchair mapping, we won't be able to cover more than the bare > basics (sidewalks and wheelchair=no when there are stairs). > > The more I think about it, the less suited I find the topics for real > beginners. My first focus will be to let them map at least something, and > when it's related to the bicycle/wheelchair topic, I consider it as a nice > plus. > > BTW, this is the introduction [1] that I prepared, some parts can be skipped > or handled very briefly depending on the needs of the audience. > > regards > > m > > [1] > https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1pfVH7IaTCYrTaiyJG0BcACQYnu0CeHxnrZGo_aT4ToI/edit?usp=sharing > [1] Dear Marc, Much thanks for what you have done. It is very good. What we will do and what the users (beginners) will be able to do is good also. If they want to know more, get involved, then we will organize other meetings aimed really at advanced mapping for PMR (personnes à mobilité réduite) and cycle if you consider this more advanced. We shall probably have an article in Le Soir of tomorrow about the party. best regards, Nicolas -- Nicolas Pettiaux, phd - npetti...@april.org «Apprendre aux élèves à utiliser les produits privateurs de Microsoft, Google ou Oracle, c'est comme leur apprendre à fumer. C'est leur donner une habitude coûteuse, dangereuse et dont ils se déferont difficilement.» Richard Stallman Links: -- [1] https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1pfVH7IaTCYrTaiyJG0BcACQYnu0CeHxnrZGo_aT4ToI/edit?usp=sharing___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] Cartopartie pour améliorer les cartes de Bruxelles pour les handicapés et les cyclistes ce samedi 25/4/2015 à Bruxelles
Merci de traduire en anglais et néerlandais dans https://mensuel.framapad.org/p/carto-party-com-presse et diffuser largement == Cartopartie pour améliorer les cartes de Bruxelles pour les handicapés et les cyclistes ce samedi 25/4/2015 à Bruxelles Communiqué de presse Bruxelles le 23 avril 2015 - Cartopartie pour améliorer les cartes de Bruxelles pour les handicapés et les cyclistes Une cartopartie est un événement convivial durant lequel se réunissent des gens pour améliorer, en cartographiant, la carte libre OpenStreetMap ( www.openstreetmap.org). N'importe qui peut en effet contribuer à OpenStreetMap qui est un peu le Wikipédia de la carte. Le thème de cette cartopartie est l'amélioration des données importantes pour les personnes à mobilité réduite et pour les cyclistes. En améliorant ces données dans OpenStreetMap, les rendus de cartes dédiés à ces personnes (http://wheelmap.org (une cartographie pour personnes à mobilité réduite) et http://opencyclemap.org (une cartographie pour personnes circulant à vélo)) seront ainsi automatiquement améliorés. La cartopatie se déroulera le samedi 25 avril à l'auditoire 004 de l'ESI (67 rue Royale, Bruxelles) de 9h à 13h. Dans un premier temps, le fonctionnement d'OpenstreetMap sera exposé (comment ajouter quelque chose, les règles à respecter, ...). Ensuite les participants seront invités à encoder des éléments manquants dont ils ont connaissance (voisinage, ...). Vers 11h-12h, Mapillary (www.mapillary.com), une application cherchant à proposer un service équivalent à GoogleStreetView de manière collaborative, sera présentée. Finalement, vers 13h, sera proposé une sortie pour faire des photos pour Mapillary et charger cela sur internet. Le créateur de Mapillary (www.mapillary.com/), une application pour faire collectivement l'équivalent de street view, sera présent. Pour une bonne gestion, l'inscription est attendue sur https://framadate.org/vspmbw9xba5pfasn Tout le monde est le bienvenu (surtout les curieux et les cartographes débutants qui recevront l’appui de cartographes confirmés). Il est demandé aux participants d'apporter, si possible, un ordinateur portable afin que tout le monde puisse participer à la phase d'encodage et leurs smartphones. Contact : Nicolas Pettiaux et gsm 0496 24 55 01 Michel Willemse Voir aussi http://www.lasemainenumerique.be/Invitation-a-une-Cartopartie.html http://www.heb.be/esi/supports/cartopartie.htm https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Activities#Invitation_.C3.A0_une_Cartopartie_.5B1.5D_.C3.A0_Bruxelles_-_Samedi_25_Avril_2015.2C_9h_.C3.A0_13h Merci de diffuser largement -- Nicolas Pettiaux Membre de l'APRIL <http://www.april.org/> - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » «Apprendre aux élèves à utiliser les produits privateurs de Microsoft, Google ou Oracle, c'est comme leur apprendre à fumer. C'est leur donner une habitude coûteuse, dangereuse et dont ils se déferont difficilement.» *Richard Stallman* -- Nicolas Pettiaux Membre de l'APRIL <http://www.april.org/> - « promouvoir et défendre le logiciel libre » «Apprendre aux élèves à utiliser les produits privateurs de Microsoft, Google ou Oracle, c'est comme leur apprendre à fumer. C'est leur donner une habitude coûteuse, dangereuse et dont ils se déferont difficilement.» *Richard Stallman* ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Communiqué de presse carto-party
Le Mar 21 avril 2015 20:33, Jo a écrit : > Marc Gemis et moi ont du improviser un petit peu ou plutôt assez > fortement. > Notre conclusion était que avec que 4 heures il nous manquera le temps > pour > envoyer les gens dans les rues et les guider pour ajouter le résultat de > leurs découvrertes à la base de OSM. La proposition de Marc était donc > d'expliquer aux gens comment ajouter QQ chose, puis de leur demander > d'ajouter QQ chose près de chez eux. Vers 11-12h Peter peut expliquer > Mapillary et a 13h on peut sortir pour aller faire des photos. > > Je pense que c'est comme ça que Marc et moi l'ont dans la tête, je pense, > mais maintenant je lis que tu écris autre chose. merci beaucoup Jo. Vous avez l'expérience de ce qui fonctionne. Basons nous sur cela. Pourrais-tu modifier le pad dans le sens de la manière que tu vois ? Je crois que c'est important d'avoir une partie pratique pour que les personnes puissent manipuler et contribuer, et effectivement que les gens ajoutent qq chose qu'ils connaissent bien, près de chez eux est une bonne idée. Merci de ton input, et merci à Marc aussi. (vous pouvez écrire dans le pad en néerlandais ou en anglais, on pourra faire un communiqué trilingue) Nicolas > > Jo > On Apr 21, 2015 7:08 PM, "Marc Ducobu" wrote: > >> https://mensuel.framapad.org/p/carto-party-com-presse >> >> 2015-04-21 17:55 GMT+02:00 Nicolas Pettiaux : >> > >> > Le Mar 21 avril 2015 17:50, Marc Ducobu a écrit : >> >> Bonjour à tous, >> >> >> >> Finalement, y a t il un communiqué de presse pour la carto party de >> >> samedi ? Si oui ça m'intéresse de l'avoir. >> > >> > pas eu le temps de l'écrire. Si tu te lance dans un pad, je >> compléterai. >> > >> > Ce serait une bonne idée. >> > >> > Il y aura sans doute des articles dans Le Soir (Alain Jenotte) et La >> Libre >> > (je ne sais pas qui) mais avec un communiqué de presse, nous pourrons >> un >> > peu mieux guider les journalistes. >> > >> > Du matériel dans les liens ci-dessous : >> > >> > Le lendemain, à ESI (67 rue royale) filmer la cartopartie durant >> laquelle >> > nous allons améliorer la carte libre openstreetmap pour les handicapés >> > (voir http://wheelmap.org) et pour les cyclistes (voir >> > http://opencyclemap.org). Adresse : rue royale 67 à 1000 Bruxelles >> entre >> > 9h et 10h puis entre 11h30 et 13h. >> > >> > [1] http://opencyclemap.org/, une cartographie pour cyclistes ; >> > [2] http://wheelmap.org/, une cartographie pour personnes à mobilité >> réduite >> > >> > Voir >> http://www.lasemainenumerique.be/Invitation-a-une-Cartopartie.html >> > ou https://framadate.org/vspmbw9xba5pfasn pour l'inscription >> > ou http://www.heb.be/esi/supports/cartopartie.htm >> > ou >> > >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Activities#Invitation_.C3.A0_une_Cartopartie_.5B1.5D_.C3.A0_Bruxelles_-_Samedi_25_Avril_2015.2C_9h_.C3.A0_13h >> > >> > Le créateur de Mapillary http://www.mapillary.com/how.html une >> application >> > pour faire collectivement l'équivalent de street view sera présent. >> > >> > Comme dit, l'activité 2/ se passe en 3 temps : >> > >> > a) 1h pour savoir comment faire, recevoir des documents papiers à >> > compléter ou installer une application sur son smartphone, >> > b) 1h pour aller sur le terrain mesurer, photographier, noter ... et >> > prendre des notes >> > c) 1h pour ensemble, sur des ordinateurs, encoder les données dans >> > openstreetmap. >> > >> > L'objectif est donc que les gens deviennent indépendants. >> > >> > Le public peut apporter si possible son ordinateur portable pour que >> tout >> > le monde puisse dans la phase c) travailler et pratiquer. >> > >> > Merci ) toi, >> > >> > Nicolas >> > >> > (qui prépare une conférence sur creative commons pour ce soir) >> >> Belle journée. >> >> >> >> Marc >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> Talk-be mailing list >> >> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >> >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >> >> >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Nicolas Pettiaux - nico...@pettiaux.be >> > Soutenons april.org , framasoft.org et laquadrature.net >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > Talk-be mailing list >> > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >> >> >> >> -- >> et en avant pour de folles aventures... >> >> ___ >> Talk-be mailing list >> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >> > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > -- Nicolas Pettiaux - nico...@pettiaux.be Soutenons april.org , framasoft.org et laquadrature.net ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Communiqué de presse carto-party
Le Mar 21 avril 2015 17:50, Marc Ducobu a écrit : > Bonjour à tous, > > Finalement, y a t il un communiqué de presse pour la carto party de > samedi ? Si oui ça m'intéresse de l'avoir. pas eu le temps de l'écrire. Si tu te lance dans un pad, je compléterai. Ce serait une bonne idée. Il y aura sans doute des articles dans Le Soir (Alain Jenotte) et La Libre (je ne sais pas qui) mais avec un communiqué de presse, nous pourrons un peu mieux guider les journalistes. Du matériel dans les liens ci-dessous : Le lendemain, à ESI (67 rue royale) filmer la cartopartie durant laquelle nous allons améliorer la carte libre openstreetmap pour les handicapés (voir http://wheelmap.org) et pour les cyclistes (voir http://opencyclemap.org). Adresse : rue royale 67 à 1000 Bruxelles entre 9h et 10h puis entre 11h30 et 13h. [1] http://opencyclemap.org/, une cartographie pour cyclistes ; [2] http://wheelmap.org/, une cartographie pour personnes à mobilité réduite Voir http://www.lasemainenumerique.be/Invitation-a-une-Cartopartie.html ou https://framadate.org/vspmbw9xba5pfasn pour l'inscription ou http://www.heb.be/esi/supports/cartopartie.htm ou https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Activities#Invitation_.C3.A0_une_Cartopartie_.5B1.5D_.C3.A0_Bruxelles_-_Samedi_25_Avril_2015.2C_9h_.C3.A0_13h Le créateur de Mapillary http://www.mapillary.com/how.html une application pour faire collectivement l'équivalent de street view sera présent. Comme dit, l'activité 2/ se passe en 3 temps : a) 1h pour savoir comment faire, recevoir des documents papiers à compléter ou installer une application sur son smartphone, b) 1h pour aller sur le terrain mesurer, photographier, noter ... et prendre des notes c) 1h pour ensemble, sur des ordinateurs, encoder les données dans openstreetmap. L'objectif est donc que les gens deviennent indépendants. Le public peut apporter si possible son ordinateur portable pour que tout le monde puisse dans la phase c) travailler et pratiquer. Merci ) toi, Nicolas (qui prépare une conférence sur creative commons pour ce soir) > Belle journée. > > Marc > > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > -- Nicolas Pettiaux - nico...@pettiaux.be Soutenons april.org , framasoft.org et laquadrature.net ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Aide de CAP48 pour améliorer la carte PMR de Bruxelles
Bonjour Renaud Je suis pour le moment en méditerranée à la voile. Merci pour ta réponse et votre aide. Je mets en copie le groupe avec lequel l'activité est organisée qui repondra sans doute. Amitiés Nicolas Le 8 avril 2015 14:14:24 UTC+02:00, Renaud TOCKERT a écrit : >Bonjour Nicolas, > >Sorry pour la réponse un peu tardive. On a été un peu chargé cette fin >mars. C’est le mois des décisions de financement et de la clôture des >comptes. > >Ton projet est évidemment fort intéressant. Damien, notre webmaster en >copie de ce mail, attentif aux questions de mobilité a contribué au >projet de l’asbl USE-IT qui avait lancé un plan (imprimé) de >l’accessibilité de Bruxelles. >http://www.use-it.travel/home . cela vaudrait la peine de contacter >pour ne pas recommencer le projet à zéro. Damien est prêt à faire >circuler l’info de ta journée. N’hésites pas à le contacter. > >On va également envoyer un mail aux associations proches de nous, et >tenter de décrocher l’un ou l’autre ITV en radio. Aurais-tu un >communiqué de presse ? > >Tiens nous au courant > >Merci > >Renaud > >De : nicolas.petti...@gmail.com [mailto:nicolas.petti...@gmail.com] De >la part de Nicolas Pettiaux >Envoyé : vendredi 27 mars 2015 10:05 >À : Renaud TOCKERT >Cc : Nicolas Pettiaux >Objet : Re: Aide de CAP48 pour améliorer la carte PMR de Bruxelles > > > >Le 27 mars 2015 08:44, Renaud TOCKERT mailto:r...@rtbf.be>> >a écrit : >Salut Nicolas, > >Content d’avoir de tes nouvelles. J’espère que vous allez bien. > >nous allons tous bien. Beaucoup de travail et de projets. Les enfants >sont maintenant en 3è polytech (Jason) et en BA1 médecine (Lucie). >Et chez vous ? > >Belle idée ! On peut certainement donner un coup de main. Je vois en >interne et te reviens en début de semaine. >super bonne nouvelle. >Peux-tu me rappeler ton gsm et me dire peut-être quand je pourrais >t'appeler et peut-être te rencontrer pour en parler ? >Merci bcp > >Merci à > >Renaud > > >De : >[mailto:nicolas.petti...@gmail.com<mailto:nicolas.petti...@gmail.com>] >De la part de Nicolas Pettiaux >Envoyé : jeudi 26 mars 2015 16:43 >À : Renaud TOCKERT >Cc : Nicolas Pettiaux >Objet : Aide de CAP48 pour améliorer la carte PMR de Bruxelles > >Bonjour Renaud, >J'organise le samedi 24 avril 2015 entre 9h et 13h à l'Ecole supérieure >d'informatique une cartopartie pour améliorer les cartes de Bruxelles >qui concernent les cyclistes, les PMR et les usagers des transports en >commun. >Nous allons améliorer les cartes qui font partie du projet >OpenStreetMap [1], en particulier la carte cycliste [2] et celles des >PMR [3] . Nous attendons que les participants s'inscrivent si possible >sur [4] >Nous savons que pour les PMR c'est très difficile de savoir, quand on >n'est pas PMR, se mettre dans la peau d'un PMR et savori quand la >voiturette passe ou pas, quand la PMR peut monter une pente seule sans >assistance (ce qu'elle apprécie) ou quelle bordure est franchissable ou >quelle porte l'est ... >Nous avons besoin d'aide de PRM elles-mêmes ainsi que de soutien >médiatique pour faire connaitre notre initiative. >J'ai quelques questions : >Pourrais-tu nous aider pour cela ? > >Pourrais-tu nous mettre en contact avec des journalistes (RTBF ou >presse papier ou belga ou toute autre) qui pourrait nous aider à faire >connaitre l"événement ? Nous savons qu'il y a tellement de choses à >noter pour faire une vraie carte pour aider les PMR complète qu'il >faudra du monde. Bien sûr, si il faut nous répétérons l'initiative de >la cartopartie, mais tout soutien est le bienvenu. > >Est-ce que Cap48 serait intéressé par notre projet ? > >Est-ce que Cap48 pourrait officiellement nous aider à diffuser des >cartes papiers une fois celles électroniques réalisées ? >Est-ce que Cap48 pourrait nous aider à contacter des associations de >PMRs pour les impliquer ou sensibiliser à nos actions à leur intention >? > >Toute idée de ta part est appréciée, >Amitiés, >Nicolas >0496 24 55 01 > >[1] http://osm.org >[2] http://opencyclemap.org/ >[3] http://wheelmap.org >[4] https://framadate.org/vspmbw9xba5pfasn > >-- >Nicolas Pettiaux > >Membre de l'APRIL<http://www.april.org/> - « promouvoir et défendre le >logiciel libre » > >«Apprendre aux élèves à utiliser les produits privateurs de Microsoft, >Google ou Oracle, c'est comme leur apprendre à fumer. C'est leur donner >une habitude coûteuse, dangereuse et dont ils se déferont >difficilement.» Richard Stallman > > > >-- >Nicolas Pettiaux > >Membre de l'APRIL<http://www.april.or
Re: [OSM-talk-be] meeting with CIRB
Le Mar 24 mars 2015 17:47, Julien Fastré a écrit : > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ben and I had a meeting with CIRB today. Great news. Thanks for the note. Who have you met ? Eric Auquière ? Who was the highest ranked decision maker ? Who where the technical people ? > CIRB is thinking about "new projects" for the coming years. They are > actually brainstorming/thinking/meeting people about what would be > interesting to develop. good point > They are also interested by OSM. They guess OSM can help them to > achieve their missions, but they are quite unclear about concretely > what to do. we can provide ideas and suggestions ;-) > They also have some admiration for the work done by > contributors. good > At first, they were thinking about "change detection" from OSM to > URBIS data. They think also about using OSM as background layer for > outside of the Brussels Regio (some of their clients (public > institutions in Brussels) are working around Brussels). +1 > During the meeting, we explained some tools and organization that they > didn't know (they were quite well documented). which tools ? > We stressed the discussion on one aspect: which interest do you have > into investing in OSM ? Our message: if you have some interest, you > could invest in differents manners to help improve the tools, the > data, or building the community... indeed > We discussed some ideas like : > > - - hosting some data or extracts for OSM on a future data portal. This > might help to promote our data, and help to improve them (the better > visibility we have, the better data we will have) ; +1 > - - the cirb is interested in using OSM for starting cadastre of data > (like benches, street furnitures) that their customers > (municipalities, ...) could need. This would be great, because by > virality our licence will force those customers to redistribute freely > the improved data if they want to share it to a third person ; +1 > - - hosting tiles with dedicated styles for Brussels/Belgium. (We > launched the idea to loan a server from the CIRB data center to the > OSM community :-)) +1 > - - the routing functionalities has also some interest for them ; indeed. We could also imagine for example importing the weekly calendar of road workds done today by the AED administration and that could be integrated with OSM and helped improve much the routing of OSM ... and give OSM routing some advantages with respect to the competition (road work could be taken into account in the OSM routing and make it more convenient - as free service - than any other) > > They also asked if osm contributors would be interested in "diff" of > urbis data : what has changed in their data from date X to date Y. > This would ease the update operation between urbis and OSM (we also > suggest to make a diff between their data and what is imported in OSM). +1 > The CIRB is collecting those ideas, will write some internal documents > and continue the process internally. We will be kept in touch. > We also spoke about the mapping party on 25th of April ! great. Could CIRB support this event ? Participate ? Spread the word about it ? Much thanks, Ben & Julien Nicolas -- Nicolas Pettiaux - nico...@pettiaux.be Soutenons april.org , framasoft.org et laquadrature.net ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Local chapter OSMF
Le Lun 23 mars 2015 12:15, Ben Abelshausen a écrit : > Hi, > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Sander Deryckere > wrote: > >> Will OFKN as a VZW be the local chapter? Will it be a part of OFKN, or a >> new VZW? I guess it needs to be some sort of organisation. >> > > Thanks for an actual question! :-) > > The plan is that nothing will change, we will still be a working group in > Open Knowledge Belgium but also a local chapter. > > As I read the new requirements of a local chapter this is perfectly ok. It > used to be the case that we would have to be a seperate VZW focused on > only > OSM but that has changed. +1 I am completely in favor of such a work and I am ready to contribute as much as I can Thanks, Nicolas -- Nicolas Pettiaux - nico...@pettiaux.be Soutenons april.org , framasoft.org et laquadrature.net ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] project follow-up : trello or trac ?
Le Mar 17 mars 2015 12:55, Glenn Plas a écrit : > I must say, I really like Asana ... I'm not feeling the urge to setup a > Trac instance. This tool might be perfect for the job. > OK let's start with ASANA Regards, Nicolas -- Nicolas Pettiaux - nico...@pettiaux.be Soutenons april.org , framasoft.org et laquadrature.net ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] project follow-up : trello or trac ?
Le mardi 17 mars 2015 à 10:11 +0100, Julien Fastré a écrit : > Jo: Odoo is an ERP: do you think we have the need for accoutancy, > products management, ?? > > We run Odoo at Champs Libres and the problem is their model is quite > closed. Of course, the code is open source, but they regularly decide > that their software need an "upgrade", and the upgrade cost a lot of > money (around 1k€)... this is what I think and also the reason why the gnuhealth project dropped openerp/odoo in favor of tryton. > Not affordable for us: we are considering to migrate to tryton > (http://www.tryton.org/) I know personnally the people behind tryton (A small team of 3 from Liège). Very nice people, with a larger international team and a foundation. They do free software the proper way. By the way, 2 of them have worked for openerp ... and have left before forking the code. Have a good night, Nicolas ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] project follow-up : trello or trac ?
Dear all, Trello me be good, but if we depend on an exterior actor for something we could do ourselves with free software, I would rather NOT use it. Please consider trac with its plugins, unless (which I doubt) it is difficult to install/maintain/use. Thanks, Nicolas ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Idea!
e dimanche 08 février 2015 à 10:01 +0100, Ben Abelshausen a écrit : Hello > I have a new idea to get some funding for OpenStreetMap-Belgium. great > Our biggest problem is that we have no budget to organize anything at > the moment (I'm funding most things out of my own pocket still except > part of the missing maps party). this is not normal imho > This idea may also grow into an actual business based on OSM later. +1 > Anyway, I'm just asking here for some people who are willing to > either: > > > - Do some scripting/programming with the purpose of quality checks in > OSM. This can be complex stuff like public transit route relations, > bicyle route networks, addressing but also more simple stuff like > basic POI information. this is very interesting. I think we should try to make as much possible to improve the quality of OSM in Be. If the quality is good, we'll have more possibilities to advertise osm with respect to the other maps (google, bing, tomtom ...) and we'll have more opportunities to sell services on osm to communes and private companies. THis will help a positive circle. > - Write messages to fellow mappers (with another useraccount, not your > own) to help them after they make mistakes or help them to map better > in the future. +1 > > > You would actually get paid for this if I find customers. I'm pretty > sure I will. If you are maybe willing to help out let me know. I am interested to help find people who can help. Eg some of my students, and get paid for such a work. I won't have the time to contribute and help personnally, other than doing some relationship. > The details of the plans are a bit fuzzy at the moment. I'm just > trying to get an idea of the one thing always limiting me, people > willing to join in. Some of my students (at Ecole supérieure d'informatique) are looking for paid jobs. Either they go in Delhaize, Carrefour and do some silly jobs paid 10 €/hour or they help us in OSM, increase their work habilities and do something that I find more interesting. I would like to help them working for OSM. I have some other ideas too : I want to "sell" to Belgium and Vlaanderen that helping financially to build a good and precise openseamap with precise crowdsourced bathymetry would help develop the tourism on our coast. My idea is to have the institutions help us organize mapping parties on the sea, (that is sail, which is fun) and spread the equipment on privates boats who would gather datas. I would love that the sailing maps of the Belgium coast be based on OSM and be of better quality than the maps sold by IGN and the like (and this would also help with the use of opencpn , a free navigational program that now need to be ported to smartphone imho) Best regards, Nicolas ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] On Wheels
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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Call for Venues Open: State of the Map 2016
Hello Pieter-Jan, -Organising Open Belgium 2015 cost OKFN Belgium around 3 months of fulltime work as organiser, with two other co-organisers and a communication partner. Something like this is even harder if it not your full time job and especially when your audience is spread around the globe. indeed. We have (abelli) the experience with the organisation at ULB of the RMLL 2013. See http://2013.rmll.info -But having a location and ULB as a venue partner is a great advantage. You can use it’s proximity to the NL / DE border as a positive way to show that it is strategically located. Having a fixed point like that is good for your proposal. I am quite sure I can get ULB for a reasonable amount. What would be the best dates ? (question to all) -Even if most of the organising is done by volunteers, beware that costs pile up quickly, maybe it would be wise to contact the people from Karlsruhe (SOT-EU 14) and Birmingham (SOTM-global 13) to see what their challenges were, what do you need to consider ask for a broad estimation of the costs (financially and in time / manpower). indeed. Could you please get in touch with these teams and get these informations ? This will give you a clear vision of what assets you need to make this a success. indeed If you want help with the proposal let us know :). We can even co-organise the whole event if you want, we can see if we can find some commercial funding to make this possible. I would very much like that OKFN Be be a coorgannizer and that, for the work done, you get paid as well as anyone who would like to get paid reasonnably for the word done (and appreciated by the community). But for me, as much as possible, like RMLL and Fosdem, the event must be freely accessible. Best regards, Nicolas ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] Fwd: [OSM-talk-fr] OSM à l'honneur sur France Culture
-- Message transféré -- De : Eric Debeau Sujet : [OSM-talk-fr] OSM à l'honneur sur France Culture Date : Thu, 12 Mar 2015 09:31:01 +0100 À : Discussions sur OSM en français Salut OpenSteetMap et Gael Musquet à l'honneur dans l'émission France Culture de hier :'Les Nouvelles vagues - Le détail (3/5) : La Terre dans le plus petit détail' http://www.franceculture.fr/player/reecouter?play=5011297 J'ai bien aimé le passage ou Gael explique que OpenStreetMap permet de créer de la biodiversité des solutions techniques ;-) (38'00) Emission très intéressante avec des interventions très pertinentes de Thierry Joliveau, professeur en géographie à l'université de Saint-Etienne A noter aussi que France Culture a repris une vidéo réalisée par Morgan Richomme dans le cadre du concours Innov@Lannion de l'an dernier. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1b7hhg_tuto-osm-emerginov-1ere-partie_tech Merci à Christian Gregoire (@ogreigr) pour l'info. Eric ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Call for Venues Open: State of the Map 2016
Much thanks Ben for the clear proposal. I propose to focus on SOTM 2016 at ULB as our main goal and then, as fall back to have SOTM-Eu with France if possible (Gael Musquet, former president of OSM-fr will be in Brussels on April 25 as he told me at OpenBelgium) or SOTM-Be. Let's go and prepare in the wiki what is indicated in http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2016/Call_for_venues Met vriendelijk groeten, Best regards, Cordialement, Nicolas ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Call for Venues Open: State of the Map 2016
Hello, I am meeting Noël Van Herreweghe (Adviseur eGovernment, Programmamanager Open Data) who was the official representative of Vlanderen at OpenBelgium this Friday Maart 13 afternoon in Gent to speak about the project I have to make an international conference about OpenAccess on Sunday 25 octobre 2015 in Brussels (with the support of many academic and hopefully a large amount of public money). We could (the OSM-Be community) be present at that time as well. If some of you (at least 4 people) tell me here that they would support, I'll propose to Mr Van Herreweghe that we hold a SOTM-Be conference first at the beginning of next year (February or March) to get going and then a full blown SOTM conference in beginning of September. One of the thing I would very much like that we get is at least the start of a officially supported OpenSeaMap of the Belgian coast (the sand up to the lower tide line belongs to Flanders, the sea belongs to federal Belgium) with a community gathered bathymetric data (read more on http://depth.openseamap.org/) With the help of the state (both Vlaanderen en Belgium) we could equip some leisure boats that are at Nieuwpoort, Oostende, Blankenberghe, Zeebrugge with the inexpensive equipment ( http://depth.openseamap.org/#introduction and http://seesea.sourceforge.net/datalogger/index.html) and start collecting the data, gathering them all in OSM and them producing the very best sea maps with depth of the world. With worldeader dredgers in Belgium (Jan De Nul and De Cloedt for example) and a full blown sea map with crowdsourced bathylmetric data, Belgium could be proud. For those who already own a depth measurer (un profondimètre électronique) coupled to a GPS, adding such a cheap logging device is simple. Uploading the data is also simple and cheap. Navigating in the summer is a pleasure. Soon we'll have good maps of the seaground next to our coast to show at both Belgian and world SOTM next year. I may be dreaming, but I think that with your help we could make it become true. And OpenKnowledgeBelgium could be the main organizer, with some public support. It would make a lot of sense to organize Belgian SOTM in a sea city (either Oostend or Antwerpen), and then the main SOTM in Brussels. What do you think ? Best regards, Nicolas ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Call for Venues Open: State of the Map 2016
Le mer 11 mar 2015 à 19:59, Jo a écrit : http://blog.emacsen.net/blog/2014/06/22/why-sotm-eu-was-awesome/ I think if we're going to do it, we should do it right. Brussels is a great location for such a conference. The ULB campus has proven to be a great venue, look at FOSDEM, RMLL, Odoo (back when they were still OpenERP). indeed. At the beginning of May, I have an appointment with the president of ULB and its administrator. I proposed that ULB hosts RMLL. I am ready to propose that ULB hosts STOM. Yes, definitively, SOTM-Belgium would be a good start, but with Fosdem and RMLL experiences, and enough people, I think we can definitively aim at SOTM. Now, we just need to build the file and enter a good proposal. I'll meet soon ministers and try to get money for other projects related to free software, open access, open data. OSM is only the next step. What about organising in the beginning of 2016 SOTM-Belgium to get some traction, and that during only a week-end (like Fosdem). We could advertise during Fosdem and also before at different local events. Then we could go larger for a full blown SOTM at the beginning of September 2016. What do you think of such a proposal ? I am ready also to propose it to the team that is behind the organisation of the associalibre.be activity of free software for associations on April 24 (where you are all welcome). And where Julien will come and hopefully help with the planned OSM activity. Best regards, Nicolas ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Call for Venues Open: State of the Map 2016
Le mer 11 mar 2015 à 7:15, Jo a écrit : Hmm, the wiki recommends a team of 3+ people. I dismissed the idea yesterday (when I read that call for venue), as I thought it would rather take a 20+ people team and we don't have that. You can count me in, but I only count for 50%... I would like us to be at least 5 . Yes, I think 20+ is needed for the event itself NP ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: You've scheduled: Openstreetmap Local Meetup Leuven March 28
Dear Jo I have registered but will only be able to be with you at about 17. Have you got in touch with jounalists to invite them to attend and maybe report the event afterwards ? Regards NP ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] Call for Venues Open: State of the Map 2016
Dear all, I have proposed and obtained that RMLL be organised in Brussels in July 2013. I would like to propose that State of the map be organised at ULB in Brussels in 2016. Who would help in structuring the "dossier" and later help with the local organization ? Much thanks, Nicolas PS I think that organizing such an event can help to structure our community and strengthen the use of OSM in Belgium -- Message transféré -- From: Richard Weait Date: Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:16 PM Subject: Call for Venues Open: State of the Map 2016 The Call for Venues for State of the Map 2016 is now open. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2016/Call_for_venues Build a team for your city and bid to host the OpenStreetMap conference. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Helping out OpenStreetMap Belgium Working Group! (was: 'Mapper of the month')
Le sam. 7 mars 2015 à 8:54, Marc Gemis a écrit : Let's first do Brussels, see what works and what not. Adapt and then plan the next event (after summer perhaps). I also think that events on which people can just learn about OSM are more needed now that actual mapping parties. +1 The party on April 25 is for me more an opportunity to meet and learn together. The location (Brussels) is just a pretext. During those meetings we could help novice mappers with problems, but also talk about how to use OSM, ... Much like meetups but perhaps with a better possibility to do some mapping. +1 Regards NP ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Helping out OpenStreetMap Belgium Working Group! (was: 'Mapper of the month')
Hello, For April 25, we still need experienced mappers. For your information, a colleague of mine (Michel Willemse) who registered and will be present, is an active cyclist. He has already contacted Gracq, fietsersverbond ... GRACQ has reacted very positively ... but for the date : they already have a cyclist event in the very nearby "parc de Bruxelles". Michel's idea is that, if the weather permit, instead or on top of doing some activities to start with and describe OSM, what can be done during the morning ... we (or at least some of us) do something similar at the Parc for the cyclist, leveraging the large number of cyclists who will be present for Gracsq's event. We could do so simply by preparing paper maps to fill and some printed papers to distribute stating where to download mapilliary / osmand (or the best OSM mapping tool), what to do ... I am thinking to a 1 page, simple to read, instructions. Yes, as Marc proposes, next time, we'll contact the walkers groups and maybe the people responsible for tourism in Brussels. We could also leverage them to better describe Brussels as a touristic place and map everything that could be touristically interessant and make links to descriptions (if possible text + sounds + videos) But this will be for another time. I am even considering that one activity that could become repetitive, with a short repeat time (if handled by the tourist authorities who pay a leader) would be guided tours of Brussels with mapping purposes. I am dreaming of tours every saturday morning for example, where walkers in the city would discover a new location in the city and at the same time map everything they encounter during the visit. Can you imagine what a good map we would hava after one year only ? With many information and on top, 52 guided tours on OSM. Have a good week end, Nicolas ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapper of the month
Le jeu. 5 mars 2015 à 21:45, Jorieke Vyncke a écrit : And to Nicolas, it would indeed be nice to have a direct link to all the mappers of the month. I'll have a look if I can add a keyword or something... thanks Nicolas ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapper of the month
Le Jeu 5 mars 2015 19:45, althio a écrit : > Claire Halleux is there a page on osm.be that contains links to all the MOFM ? Thanks -- Nicolas Pettiaux - nico...@pettiaux.be Soutenons april.org , framasoft.org et laquadrature.net ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Helping out OpenStreetMap Belgium Working Group! (was: 'Mapper of the month')
Hello I am very happy to read Marc and Ben proposals here under. I think we should use a project management tool to floow them in the most efficent way : who proposes what, what is done for when, who does what ... Le Jeu 5 mars 2015 11:37, Marc Gemis a écrit : > - I'm willing to help with one mapping party/presentation every 2 months we can already plan the next 6 mapping parties/ what about organizing one in each large city of Belgium : we'll have one in Brussels on April 25. And we alternate a Flemisch speaking and a French speaking city. Let's imagine (end of the month of) - June : Antwerpen - September : Liege - November : Gent - January : Mons - March : Leuven - May : Namur - June : Oostende - September : (may start over with Brussels) > or > so. The one in Brussels is my next appointment. thanks > - I could try to write some texts for osm.be on stuff that I do (e.g. > middelheim, rose garden, heritage) similar to the presentation on > OpenBelgium when that is useful to show what one can do with OSM. great > - I'm willing to send an email to the province for the Atlas v/d > buurtwegen > (just give me the text :-) ) +1 > - I've contacted an ex-colleague who used drupal for some project (website > of a dogschool). I asked him whether he would be willing to upgrade the > and > improve the infrastructure. +2 > I'm not the organising type, so I won't organise meetups, mapping parties, > etc. but as said before I'm willing to help with the technical part. I am the kind of person interested in organizing and meeting the press. Much less tehcnically oriented (even though I am really interested to understand and practice the tools) >> - Helping Nicolas with the mapping party: You can help him by >> advertising >> showing up of just email him and ask him what you can do: >> nico...@pettiaux.be and more information is here: >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Activities#Invitation_.C3.A0_une_Cartopartie_.5B1.5D_.C3.A0_Bruxelles_-_Samedi_25_Avril_2015.2C_9h_.C3.A0_13h imho, we need to write a full program, a trilingual press document describing what we'll do and how, to attract BEGINNERS (and not making them afraid) and transmit that to the press so that they can write good papers. >> - Organize a local meetup: Not very difficult just go and sit somewhere >> and wait for people to show up. We have noticed that this gets people >> more >> involved and communication improves. +1 >> - Organize a mapping party: A very good idea! YES >> - West-Vlaanderen community-contact-person: We need someone (preferable >> from WVL) that can communicate with me and local orgs like westtoer to >> organize a couple of mapping parties. Workload is very low except when >> it's >> about to happen (the mapping party that is). >> >> Other TODO's: >> >> - Website improvements: I think our website looks like . We urgently >> need some work on this. We also need someone to update drupal or move to >> another platform (less maintenance), and setup proper multilingual >> support. who can help ? >> - Communication, for example, weekly OSM and managing the >> twitter-account/facebook group a bit better... ;-) Also a FR-speaking >> volunteer would help a lot. I volunteer for the French part. But I would very much like some active help and support. For example by Julien Fastré and/or marc Ducobu >> - Emailing to your province about the 'Atlas der Buurtwegen': The rights >> to the maps are at provincial level. We need to contact each province >> individually and ask them (each and every one) to release the maps for >> use >> in OSM. This is an important issue because in the past it has been >> assumed >> free and open but these maps are NOT! yes these legal points need a dedicated team imho, we should try ton convince law students and teachers to help >> - Local Chapter: I want to submit a proposal to become a local chapter >> of >> OSMF. Anyone willing to help with some of the administration and reading >> the procedure, contacting Paul Norman, etc... +1 . Much thanks. I propose to assume, for the time being, with Ben some kind of twin headed lead of the OSM-be project. In my views, we would be (Ben and myself) just the 2 porte-paroles/woordvoeders (is this goede Nederlands ?)/leaders representing the most active united speaking communities of OSM-be (I insist, form me the is ONE OSM-be but, to face reality, I think it is appropriate to have one representative who is native speaker of eahc language) >> Some of these may seem strange and you could say that we should all just >> stick to mapping but I think these actions can improve our community and >
Re: [OSM-talk-be] follow up of meeting with press (La Libre)
Le mar 3 mar 2015 à 8:57, Glenn Plas a écrit : Concerning the VZW/ABL thing, I don't see what it will solve if there is no issue. If the French speaking community has an issue big enough to warrant this, by all means: drop it to this list to get it solved, otherwise you'll be isolating yourself. Even small issues are welkom. indeed I would like a open community as this one to be above the language barrier. so do I. Let's leave that to the dumb people, the politicians. Let 's focus on the map. +1 Have a good day, Nicolas ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapper of the month
Thanks Ben for the precise and long answer. Could I have a login (name : npettiaux or npx) on osm.be to start helping and translating to French. I think osm.be should be trilingual (en, nl, fr) if not 4 linguals (german in also a Belgian official language) and native speaker should translate to their mothe language. I'll help with French. Thanks again, and keep on mapping, Nicolas ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] follow up of meeting with press (La Libre)
Dear, As I told Julien, Gael (former president of OSM-fr) and Jo, I have been meeting yesterday with journalists from LaLibre.be / the IPM media group (also DH). La Libre Belgique (http://lalibre.be) is probably one of the best French speaking newspaper. I had met them at a crypto/datajournalisme party earlier and they came back to me because they wanted to know more about OSM, how it worked (especially the community), which tools we have, what we do, what we provide, how to work with us ... We spent more than 2 hours yesterday, checking many tools on osm.org (location and the new routing ... that just lack the simple exchange of the 2 positions and the possibility to add others I think) demoing and editing onlide with id (eg introducing a tag http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3379643263 . By the way, is it correct / complete ?) In echange, the journalists have promised papers to inform the public about the mapping party on April 25. Most probably the journalists will also come to the party. We have concluded with the following actions : * they will send me a spreadsheet with georeferenced data and informations (like for all communes in Belgium some data : population, ages, wealth, ...) that the would like us to examine and put in a map based on OSM * we (they and us) will get in touch and organize a set of seminars with the Association des journalistes to teach journalists (experienced and students / trainees) how to use the many OSM tools and programs, and if possible, how to code in python/java when you are a datajournalist) For such seminars, which will span beginners to advanced users, I will heavily rely on you, my dear fellows from OSM-be. I told the journalists that I consider that if the data and the tools are free (as in speech and beer), most of the times, our times are NOT. And that they will have to find a way to compensate us and most probably pay the speakers for OSM (or our association for us to gather some funds). Which Flemisch journalists / editors could we also contact ? Who is ready to help me in such an endeavor ? We should start organizing in the wiki some info : who is capable of teaching what. best regards, Nicolas ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapper of the month
Le mar 3 mar 2015 à 7:00, Marc Gemis a écrit : I'm glad to hear that you like the idea. All credits for launching the topic go to Ben Abelshausen. I love the idea. I think it is really important to put forward active people and their activities. I was lacking the reference page where all the motm (mapper of the month) would be referenced. The previous mappers were Ben Laenen, Guy VV, Guy Romain, Brecht Bonne Have * Jo / polyglot * eMerz * Marc Gemis been such contributors ? Jo and Brice (eMerz) are already on my shortlist for upcoming interviews. great I told my story during OpenBelgium in Namur last week :-) good ;-) From my side, I try to emphasize the diversity of mappers : young & "less-young" :-), French & Dutch speaking, computer nerds & normal people :-), veterans and perhaps some newbies (I have someone in my mind for that already) good. I would be interesting indeed to interview people during a mapping party. So far we failed to add female contributors. Jorieke has been refusing to do it :-( I had hoped that with the one we contacted for next month this would change, but unfortunately it seems that it won't work neither :-( (if you read this, I still hope you would change your mind ) I think Jorieke should agree to answer. Otherwise we are wondering why is she refusing ? Have a good day, Nicolas ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapper of the month
Le lun 2 mar 2015 à 23:06, Jorieke Vyncke a écrit : And our mapper of the month is: Pierre Parmentier!! Fr: http://osm.be/fr/content/contributeur-du-mois-pierre-parmentier Nl: http://osm.be/nl/content/mapper-van-de-maand-pierre-parmentier Thanks Jorieke In his interview, Pierre says he regrets that the OSM-be community is not a separated asbl/vzw. Could you please Pierre let us know why you think that the current setup of OSM-be being under the umbrella of OpenKnowledge.be is not suitable ? (unless the fact, that can be adapted if we want to I suppose, that the directors of openknowledge do not represent today Belgium in a fair way : the directors are all native Flemisch speakers, the are no directors who are native French or German speakers !) And who do you think should be a good next mapper of the month? Don't hesitate to give us some suggestions! How to find all the previous "contributors of the month" ? (I like very much this idea) Have * Jo / polyglot * eMerz * Marc Gemis been such contributors ? Have a good day, Nicolas ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM.be should organise not a mapparty for new data but once to repear wrong data mapping :)
Hello I think that Jakka's initiative (to have regular meetings to check and verify OSM content) is good, but as Jo points out I don't see myself traveling across Belgium for a repair mapping errors mapathon... > Maybe we could agree on an evening per week for doing regular hangout sessions. the frequency could be adapted to personnal wishes. Let's maybe start with a less ambitious goal (once a month a public event on hangout or better imho Mozilla Hello best regards, Nicolas [1] https://www.mozilla.org/fr/firefox/hello/ ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] local currency "le valeureux" in Liege
Salut Julien, No idea ... but I find it very interesting. And on the go, I consider that I would very much appreciate to see a local currency «l'iris» developped and used in Brussels, along the same model. I have appreciated to see you, Ben and Marc in Namur today. Best regards, Nicolas ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Brussels by bicycle
Hello Ben, Much thanks for the mail and help. Thumbs up for organizing this! :-) I will help with everything you need in anyway I can! thanks I'm at a client at the moment and all social-network related stuff is blocked so I can't even plan the meetup ;-) That reminds me: we have one tonight in Antwerp! please advertise the one of April 25. Brussels is not that far from Antwerp ;-) I will also try to make on the 25th but chances are slim because me and Jorieke are moving parttime to Mali and I will probably not be in Belgium at that time. I did submit the survey because it seemed to be about both organizing (help) and attending. indeed. Your help on these subjects is great. We'll see eacho othe on Monday in Namur. I'll represent there CC. Met vriendelijke groeten, Best regards, Cordialement, Nicolas ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Brussels by bicycle
Dear all, I have added some info in the wiki about the proposal : https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Activities#Mapping_party_in_Brussels_-_Saturday_25_April_2015.2C_9h_till_13h Do not hesitate to add ideas and yourself on the program. We need to have enough experienced mappers to teach and accompany the new mappers. We also need to have Flemisch, French and English speakers, as I expect and would like to have visitors speaking at least these 3 languages. Yes, any help with the setup of a meetup is welcome. I'll see Ben on Monday in Namur and talk with him. I hope to see you Ivo, THanks NP ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapping party in Brussels : cycle- and wheelmap
Dear all, I have written https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Activities#Mapping_party_in_Brussels_-_Saturday_25_April_2015.2C_9h_till_13h that will need translation to French and Dutch for the advertisement. I dream of a multilingual mapping party in French, Dutch, English (and other languages) ... with the help of Polyglot, no problem. With many people living/working in Brussels participating. Please add you comments/ideas ... and register on https://framadate.org/vspmbw9xba5pfasn Hope to see you there, Best regards, Nicolas ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapping party in Brussels : cycle- and wheelmap
Le lun 16 fév 2015 à 14:51, Pieter Brusselman a écrit : Hi all, In the beginning of 2014 we mapped all slow ways in Brussels city and the surrounded area's. The results can be seen here: www.stapasbxl.be. If you need some more information about that, give me a sign. much thanks Pieter. Any advice is most welcome. What would you suggest to do to make a good and effective mapping party ? How have you got support by Bruxelles Mobilité ? Who should I contact there ? Best regards, Nicolas ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Mapping party in Brussels : cycle- and wheelmap
Sorry, for internal reasons, the choice of dates must disappear. The proposal holds only for Saturday April 25 (good so far for all the people who had registered) Regards, Nicolas ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] Mapping party in Brussels : cycle- and wheelmap
Dear all, I propose to organize a mapping party in Brussels on either - Saturday 25 Avril 2015 , from 9h to 13h - Saturday 9 May 2015 The location for the meetup as well as for the work together is ESI (École supérieure d'informatique ( http://osm.org/go/0EoTiW93M?m= ; rue royale 67, 1000 Bruxelles; very close to Central station and the Parliament) My idea would be to have a mapping party aimed at beginner mappers with the help of advanced ones, and to focus on improving the opencyclemap [1] and wheelmap [2]. So everyone is welcome. The place (ESI) is where we had the OSM meeting in October 2013, with easy access by train, tram, bus, metro as well as by car on a Saturday morning. [1] http://opencyclemap.org/, a map aimed at cyclists ; [2] http://wheelmap.org/, a map dedicated to help people with motor disabilities. Are any of you interested in helping with the organization, the plan, the introductory talk, the advertisement everywhere (in newspapers, radios, TVs ...) ... ? Please fill the survey on https://framadate.org/vspmbw9xba5pfasn Any idea is welcome. Best regards, Nicoals ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Brussels by bicycle
Le 2015-02-13 8:58, Jo a écrit : > http://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20150212_01525728 [1] > > both hilarious and incredibly sad at the same time. It's not that they're not > trying. Bicycle infrastructure has improved a lot over the past 10 years, but > not quite there yet. indeed. As a daily cyclist, I encounter many such situations. I am willing to organize soon a cycling map day in Brussels to improve the Brussels cycling map and spot such locations that need attention. Who would be willing to participate ? have a good day, Nicolas Links: -- [1] http://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20150212_01525728 ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] For your convenience
Dear Jo every link starts with "http://localhost:8111/import?new_layer=true&url="; that makes them unusable as such I think Best regards, Nicolas 2015-01-21 15:48 GMT+01:00 Jo : > How silly of me: > > > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Belgium/Public_Transport/Lines > > Jo > > 2015-01-21 15:26 GMT+01:00 Marc Gemis : > >> Can't see any links, but maybe that's my mail program ?? >> >> On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 2:25 PM, Jo wrote: >> >>> Click on 1 of those links with JOSM open and be amazed. Well, don't >>> forget to download the missing members of the relations... otherwise there >>> won't be much to see. >>> >>> Then you can download the region you zoom in to when pressing '2'. Or >>> you can use the following query as an Overpass Download (proviided you have >>> the Mirror download plugin installed) >>> >>> (rel >>> ["type"="route"] >>> ["route"~"bus|tram"] >>> ["ref"="LINE_NUMBER_HERE"] >>> ["operator"="De Lijn OR TEC here"] >>> ->.routes; >>> .routes << ->.route_masters; >>> way(r.routes); >>> node(w); >>> node(around:30.0); >>> way(bn); >>> node(w); >>> ); >>> out meta; >>> >>> ___ >>> Talk-be mailing list >>> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >>> >>> >> > > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > -- Nicolas Pettiaux ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Topo guide GR for Brussels based on OSM
Très très intéressant en effet. un tout grand merci. Et félicitations pour l'idée de l'enterview. Ta dernière question est "Voyez-vous des possibles collaborations futures avec OSM et ses contributeurs?" pour laquelle la réponse est assez, voire trop courte à mon avis pour être tout à fait satisfaisante pour nous, et le futur. Etant donné le très bon début de discussion que tu as initié, peut-être pourrions nous poursuivre avec des questions pour lesquelles les réponses seraient plus simples à fournir et qui permettraient de développer la suite. Par exemple "qui pourrions nous rencontrer dans votre association pour poursuivre la collaboration ?" ou concraitement "qui pourrions nous rencontrer pour discuter de l'inclusion des sentiers GR dans OSM ?" Mais il y a déjà des pistes de ce qui pourrait aider. Par exemple, indiquer comment mettre en évidence des fonds de qualité imprimable. Et peut-être aussi mettre en évidence des labels de qualité de carte localement. Je veux dire un label qui indique pour un niveau de zoom donné le niveau de qualité de la carte selon différents critères. Ceci pourrait-être soit calculé soit défini par des utilisateurs. Je vois http://k1z.blog.uni-heidelberg.de/2013/07/11/high-cartographic-quality-label-placement-on-osm-based-map/ mais je ne sais pas si cela représente exactement ce que je veux dire. Bonne journée, Nicolas Peut- Le 23 septembre 2014 17:56, Marc Gemis a écrit : > Très intéressant ! Merci > > 2014-09-23 17:31 GMT+02:00 eMerzh : >> >> Hello, >> >> I've recieved recently a topo guide of Brussels where the maps were >> based on OSM... >> More info on french only (sorry) on my blog... >> >> J'ai reçu récemment un topo guide des sentier GR a Bruxelles... >> A ma grande surprise les cartes a l'intérieure sont basées sur OSM! >> >> J'en ai donc profiter pour faire une petite interview a lire sur mon blog >> >> >> http://blog.bmaron.net/post/2014/09/22/Interview%3A-des-Sentiers-de-Grande-Randonn%C3%A9e-et-OpenStreetMap >> >> >> ___ >> Talk-be mailing list >> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >> > > > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > -- Nicolas Pettiaux ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Discussion with Wallonia
Dear Julien, As you propose your self, as you take the care to give us some feedback and ask for confirmation, and as you have initiated the contacts, I fully agree that you represent OSM-be to discuss this plan geomatique with the region. Best regards, Nicolas 2014/1/16 Julien Fastré > Hi, > > I am contacted with the Cabinet of Philippe Henry, in charge of > geography in Wallonia. > > They would like to have the opinion of the contributors about the "plan > stratégique de la géomatique". > > They need someone to talk. This person should be in Wallonia and there > should be an agreement to talk with him. > > If you would agree, I propose myself to go on with those talks, until we > have a more organised organisation (under the umbrella of OKFN). > > Do you agree that I go to discuss with them, summarize the plan, pro and > cons, and give them back an advice from OSM contributors ? > > We should give them an answer for... tomorrow :-) (I received the email > this morning :-) ). > > Please give an answer :-) > > Julien Fastré > > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > -- Nicolas Pettiaux - +32 496 24 55 01 ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Cartopartie Tournai (Belgique) samedi 09 novembre
Le 08/11/13 08:46, Louis-Julien de la Bouëre a écrit : Bonjour Louis-Julien, Merci beaucoup pour l'information et bravo. Serai-t-il possible de faire une petit reportage vidéo, peut-être accompagné d'un écrit et de photos, précisant ce que vous aurez fait pendant la journée, comment vous l'aurez fait, quelles sont les impressions des participants, si ils sont prêts à poursuivre indépendamment de l'activité voire à transmettre le message et inviter leurs connaissances à contribuer à OSM ... Ce serait chouette à rajouter dans le futur proche au site osm.be que Ben fait; Merci et plein de souhaits d'une très bonne activité, Cordialement, Nicolas-- Nicolas Pettiaux - gsm +32 496 24 55 01 - nico...@pettiaux.be lepacte.be - 2013.rmll.info - euroscipy.org signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] which and where are the windpower in Belgium
Can any of you share with us/me the script or way to easily get a list and a cart with the windpower turbine installed in belgium and cross check this for example with http://www.thewindpower.net/country_zones_fr_21_belgique.php ? Much thanks, Nicolas -- Nicolas Pettiaux - +32 496 24 55 01 - http://rmll.info - http://lepacte.be EuroSciPy 2013 co-chair http://www.euroscipy.org/ ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] biweekly hangout meetings
2013/10/19 Marc Gemis > I was hoping for a Friday evening. :-) > I organized both hangouts on that day, because it's the only day that's > possible for me. > > Thanks Marc for your reply. Let's then start on a friday evening when you, a man of experience, can participate. I propose that a calendar (= some date and some topics for each dates) be proposed in the wiki. We can start maybe with something easy as a first topic, with something like : for the first 10 minutes or so you show the attendees how to do something special with JOSM . And you put a list of packages for JOSM that we should have installed and tested before the meeting. In such a way, it could be very productive. What do you think about that ? Regards, NP ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] biweekly hangout meetings
Dear OSM friends, Marc and Gilbert have told us about their successful hangout meeting. I have not had the time to read all the mail on the list these last days, so I apologize if the proposal has already come. Maybe we could consider planning a biweekly meeting over hangout at a given time, something like every other wednesday from 21h till 22h, for example the 1st and 3rd of each month. Other days and/or time would be good to, provided the dates and times could be known in advance. So people could jsut plan to join if they want. What do you think about such an idea ? Regards, Nicolas -- Nicolas Pettiaux - +32 496 24 55 01 - http://rmll.info - http://lepacte.be EuroSciPy 2013 co-chair http://www.euroscipy.org/ ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM Belgium & OKFN Belgium
Welcome Marc Hope to read you often and see you again after the Oct 3 meeting at ESI. Regards, Nicolas 2013/10/17 marc bessieres > Hello, > > It's my first message to the mailing list. I'm a new maper. > I was present at the meeting in Brussels a couple of weeks ago. > > So I don't know if I can say much. But still I want to say that I agree. > > Cheers > Marc > Le 17 oct. 2013 16:26, "eMerzh" a écrit : > > Yey :) >> agree =) +1 for me >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Jo wrote: >> >>> I hereby support this motion. (I might have been watchin too much >>> television lately...) >>> >>> Thank you Ben! >>> >>> Jo >>> >>> >>> 2013/10/17 Glenn Plas >>> >>>> Ben has my support. >>>> >>>> +1 >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2013-10-17 13:17, Ben Abelshausen wrote: >>>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> If everybody agrees we can make this 'official'. Before we do this I >>>> would like to give everybody another chance to voice opinions/concerns >>>> again about this. >>>> >>>> Basically this is what is going to happen: >>>> >>>> - OSM Belgium is NOT going to create a seperate VZW/ASBL but will work >>>> under the Open Knowledge Foundation Belgium (OKFN Belgium) umbrella. >>>> - OSM Belgium will be represented by Ben Abelshausen. (If there are >>>> other candidates please let the list know we can organize a vote, I don't >>>> want to do this if our community does not agree) >>>> >>>> This does NOT exclude us in the future of: >>>> >>>> - Still becoming a VZW/ASBL for whatever reason. >>>> - Becoming a local chapter of OSMF. >>>> >>>> I think this is a good step forward no? >>>> Met vriendelijke groeten, >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> Ben Abelshausen >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Talk-be mailing >>>> listTalk-be@openstreetmap.orghttps://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Talk-be mailing list >>>> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Talk-be mailing list >>> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> Talk-be mailing list >> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >> >> > ___ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > > -- Nicolas Pettiaux - +32 496 24 55 01 - http://rmll.info - http://lepacte.be EuroSciPy 2013 co-chair http://www.euroscipy.org/ ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
