Re: ROT13 support
Hello Mike, On Tue, 25 Jun 2002 21:32:43 -0400 GMT (26/06/02, 08:32 +0700 GMT), Mike Apsey wrote: MA Quite easy to read with Agent installed and a copy/paste. ROT-13 is, MA of course, a good over-the-shoulder security feature but that's it. I don't see it as a security feature but a toy, which is sometimes fun. V pna nqq pbzzragf gung arjovrf pna'g ernq. Be pna gurl? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. The president has the power to appoint and disappoint the members of his cabinet. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60q under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Please release BatNews!
Hello Lynn, On Tue, 25 Jun 2002 08:24:21 -0700 GMT (25/06/02, 22:24 +0700 GMT), Lynn Turriff wrote: LT I've been reading this thread with interest and some LT puzzlement .. seems to me that if it's there, no law says LT you have to use it. For those who want it, great! May I just add that Stefan also said he will write the newsreader as a plugin - so if you don't want to use it, you don't even need to load the extra code. :-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. As of 1992, they'll be called European Economic Community fries. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60q under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: ROT13 support
Hello Thomas, TF V pna nqq pbzzragf gung arjovrf pna'g ernq. Be pna gurl? V'z n Ebg13 arjovr, naq V'ir tbg vg! Jubbubb! Guvf pregnvayl pbhyq or sha. V jvfu vg pbhyq or cyhttrq-va gb Gur Ong! Best regards, KurganMailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: ROT13 support
Hello Thomas, 26. junij 2002, 8:10:59, you wrote: TF V pna nqq pbzzragf gung arjovrf pna'g ernq. Be pna gurl? I'd say that ROT13 is useful if your message contains spoilers, naq lbh jbhyqa'g jnag crbcyr gb frr gurz hayrff gurl jnag gb. -- Jernej Simoncic, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www2.arnes.si/~sopjsimo/ ICQ: 26266467 [The Bat! v1.60d on Windows 2000 5.0.2195.Service Pack 2] The length of any meeting is inversely proportional to the length of the agenda for that meeting. -- McLaughlin's Law Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: IMAP login
Hi, Marck D Pearlstone wrote in msgid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] : Does anyone here know how to configure TB to perform a login to an Exchange Server (on NT4) using IMAP? TB is running on NT4, sp6, and with administrator rights. I have heard from a user (not on this list) who is having problems trying to login. I can only give hints. Does the Exchange server require NT authentication, this could be a problem. Also, even when authenticating via regular IMAP it might be required to use the full domain/mailbox path (e.g. /NTdomain/Exchange Alias or NTdomain/domain userID/Exchange Alias) in the user name field. Experimenting with the user name might help. Regards, Markus -- Using The Bat! 1.60n under Windows NT 4.0 Build 1381 Service Pack 6 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: IMAP login
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 at 13:06 GMT +0200 (26/06/2002 18:06 where you think I live) Markus Gloede=[MG] wrote to TBUDL : Does anyone here know how to configure TB to perform a login to an Exchange Server (on NT4) using IMAP? TB is running on NT4, sp6, and with administrator rights. I have heard from a user (not on this list) who is having problems trying to login. I can only give hints. Does the Exchange server require NT authentication, this could be a problem. Also, even when authenticating via regular IMAP it might be required to use the full domain/mailbox path (e.g. /NTdomain/Exchange Alias or NTdomain/domain userID/Exchange Alias) in the user name field. Experimenting with the user name might help. Also try to use NTLM as protocol for access (I use this in my test Visnectic Mail Server and seems TB! support NTLM2 well). BTW. Maybe Graham Foster is the right person to answer this because he use TB! IMAP connect to Exchange server since beginning, but he is not in this list, IIRC he only subscribe on TBBETA and TBTECH. -- Best regards, - Syafril - mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flying with The Bat! 1.60q under Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Please release BatNews!
Hey Paul, My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tuesday, June 25, 2002 at 5:09:37 PM. PW Miguel provides a perfect solution for that in PW [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] should have been [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Oops, forgot the mid: part g -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60q Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) You're just jealous because the voices are talking to ME, not you! Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Please release BatNews!
Hey Thomas, My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 at 2:08:10 AM. TF May I just add that Stefan also said he will write the newsreader TF as a plugin - so if you don't want to use it, you don't even need TF to load the extra code. :-) Good to hear, I was wondering if that would be the case. Thanks for the info... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60q Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) Your mouse has moved. Windows must now reboot. Click OK to continue. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: MAIL DOWNLOADING PROBLEMS
Hey tracer, My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60m) Personal to write mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Tuesday, June 25, 2002 at 8:28:12 PM. t Cleanout your tempdir t It could be full Not in Windows... The temp directory is a directory, and if it is full, then the disk is full and Joyce has already indicated that there are GB of free disk space (003501c21b99$98513400$920e08d5@joycesala">mid:003501c21b99$98513400$920e08d5@joycesala). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60q Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) My wife keeps complaining I never listen to her ... or something like that. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: ROT13 support
Januk, Tuesday, June 25, 2002, 10:45:49 PM, you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: MA MUA = TB! v%THEBATVERSION (www.RitLabs.com/the_bat) MA %WINDOWSPLATFORMNAME MA %WINDOWSMAJORVERSION.%WINDOWSMINORVERSION.%WINDOWSBUILDNUMBER MA (%WINDOWSCSDVERSION) MA DH/DSS PGP Key: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/musings/ -or- MA DH/DSS PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=key_request JA It looks like you put your template in an odd place. My bet is JA that you have a signature file and you used %PUT to insert it into JA your reply. If that's the case, change %PUT to %INCLUDE. Thank you. I think what I did was to that into the message instead of my template like an idiot. I was fiddling with my templates and updating them. -- My Best! Mike MUA = TB! v1.60q (www.RitLabs.com/the_bat) Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) PGP Key mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=Key_Request Be careful what you set your heart upon - for it will surely be yours. BALDWIN Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Mail downloading problems
Hi Joyce, JS What do you guys say? Two basic steps to take would be: Run MSConfig.exe (rightmost tab), to temporarily stop NAV from launching at startup. Reboot. Run TB and see if it works better when NAV isn't interfering. Re-engage NAV through MSConfig.exe, reboot, and if necessary see if NAV can be reconfigured to work better with TB. Run scandisk to find and fix any errors in the drive that holds the temp files. Best, -Daan- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: MAIL DOWNLOADING PROBLEMS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, June 26, 2002 8:47:58 AM RE: MAIL DOWNLOADING PROBLEMS Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greetings Tim, On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 7:48:32 AM, you wrote: Tim Not in Windows... The temp directory is a directory, and if it is Tim full, then the disk is full and Joyce has already indicated that there Tim are GB of free disk space (003501c21b99$98513400$920e08d5@joycesala">mid:003501c21b99$98513400$920e08d5@joycesala). I would recommend, with any version of Windows, a program called Empty Temp Folders v2.8.3 (http://www.danish-shareware.dk/soft/emptemp/index.html). It is freeware and exceptional for system maintenance and the purging of and temp folders (searches automatically for the temp folders during configuration) under Windows 9x, SE, ME, 2000 and XP. It does much more such as the purging of URL's, cookies, .bak, .tmp (and a host of others) and is highly configurable. Used here on all my Win2k systems and is a much needed system maintenance tool. Hope this helps. - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. PGP Key http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2zxyn/pubring.pkr It's not a bug; it's an undocumented feature. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 9.0b1 iQA/AwUBPRm5Q4ltdOMeoDcuEQIMqQCg0UuwoHyoJst5ZbjOoNKSjWJQNGoAniuR DVKFcHa8UCi5ZBKxSHBCjcx/ =7y7k -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mail downloading problems
Hey Daniel, My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60q) Business to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 at 8:43:44 AM. DvRC Run MSConfig.exe (rightmost tab), to temporarily stop NAV from DvRC launching at startup. What is this tool? Where do you find it? I did a search on my system and didn't come up with it... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60q Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) Why is abbreviated such a long word? Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: ROT13 support
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas, Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 2:10:59 AM, you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: MA Quite easy to read with Agent installed and a copy/paste. ROT-13 is, MA of course, a good over-the-shoulder security feature but that's it. TF I don't see it as a security feature but a toy, which is sometimes TF fun. I sometimes use it when writing to friends/family with computers in high traffic areas as a prying-eyes caution, that's what I meant. I think using the word security was a poor choice and you are correct that it's just a toy although it could possibly trip-up some kiddie packet-sniffers. TF V pna nqq pbzzragf gung arjovrf pna'g ernq. Be pna gurl? Safe to say this TB! newbie can. :-) - -- My Best! Mike MUA = TB! v1.60q (www.RitLabs.com/the_bat) Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) DH/DSS PGP Key: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/musings/ -or- DH/DSS PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=key_request [If the human brain were so simple that we could understand it, we would be so simple that we couldn't. WATSON ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ Comment: KeyID: 0x26C51F27 Comment: Fingerprint: 62E1 E4F5 80C8 6825 8DC4 8C1D A402 E6B0 26C5 1F27 iQA/AwUBPRm7zqQC5rAmxR8nEQK1oQCgxQfpXKxXhsN7ib6UJGJ6E1JCvnQAoLaF sbuMkXX9lMnSsh1SLGhNtN8A =ZF7B -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:08:49 AM RE: Can Not Send Mail Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greetings Ravi, On Sunday, June 23, 2002, 6:10:27 PM, you wrote: Ravi Please forgive me but I am unable to receive messages from the list Ravi (apparently regardless of my email client) and as such cannot respond Ravi to those that responded to my earlier post. Unfortunately I am forced Ravi to have somewhat of a one way conversation. I have unsubscribed and Ravi re-subscribed to the TBUDL twice and am still not receiving any Ravi messages from it. I only see what appears in the archives Ravi Januk indicated: The more common problem was that most SMTP servers Ravi would reject mail being sent through them unless the FROM and/or REPLY-TO Ravi addresses matched yourISP address. So for example, if you had an account @softhome.net, Ravi then you couldn't send through their server with the address @canada.com. Although this subject has been asked and answered many times in The_Bat!'s lists you may want to try Mercury/32 (http://www.pmail.com/downloads_risc_t.htm) which is a freeware SMTP server. During install select to utilize the direct mailer option versus the relay server option. This will negate any ISP problems relaying mail at Mercury/32 will resolve the recipient's address and send the message(s) direct to the recipient's mail server. It is used here and has yet to fail me sending e-mail anywhere unless the recipient's e-mail address is invalid. Anyway ... Hope this helps. - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. PGP Key http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2zxyn/pubring.pkr It is easier to write an incorrect program than understand a correct one. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 9.0b1 iQA/AwUBPRm+kYltdOMeoDcuEQKsIwCeLT15A+76m4on2XI+7FMwsz0hOjQAnisX s5vQahfsVH+vZNvch08IWiCZ =e4w0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: ROT13 support
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas, Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 2:10:59 AM, you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: MA Quite easy to read with Agent installed and a copy/paste. ROT-13 is, MA of course, a good over-the-shoulder security feature but that's it. TF I don't see it as a security feature but a toy, which is sometimes TF fun. TF V pna nqq pbzzragf gung arjovrf pna'g ernq. Be pna gurl? Excuse me list. I see I had some quoted text wrapping issues on my other response to this message and so thought I would make some adjustments to my wrap settings and try again on one known to be wrap-challenged. - -- My Best! Mike MUA = TB! v1.60q (www.RitLabs.com/the_bat) Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) DH/DSS PGP Key: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/musings/ -or- DH/DSS PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=key_request [What do you call a boomerang that doesn't work? A stick! KIRCHENBAUM ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ Comment: KeyID: 0x26C51F27 Comment: Fingerprint: 62E1 E4F5 80C8 6825 8DC4 8C1D A402 E6B0 26C5 1F27 iQA/AwUBPRnAIKQC5rAmxR8nEQI5BgCgiTj5oCAQaFkjb65h2y2g1NVVSxsAoOu3 XLyMN/0jtmTNu/e9/78ryLl6 =WGuv -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Word wrap help, please.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi List, As some of you might have seen, I am having some TB! wrapping issues, which are surely cockpit problems. Here are my settings: TB! Wraps at 70 PGP Wraps clear-signed at column 72 Editor/Viewer preferences has only Autowrap checked. Recommendations and comments most appreciated. I seem to run into this when using the Initial for quoted text, and signing messages, which may be a clue, but I thought I'd ask the experts. - -- Mike MUA = TB! v1.60q (www.RitLabs.com/the_bat) Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) DH/DSS PGP Key: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/musings/ -or- DH/DSS PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=key_request [If you look like your passport photo, you're too ill to travel. KOMMEN] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ Comment: KeyID: 0x26C51F27 Comment: Fingerprint: 62E1 E4F5 80C8 6825 8DC4 8C1D A402 E6B0 26C5 1F27 iQA/AwUBPRnCXqQC5rAmxR8nEQJmOgCfUOukqZNYkbEGSCyqND5geHjZW/sAn0Wx 5lQoQ579bupz8y5IhV3c1o8S =MAgl -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: question - how can email be sent from me that I didn't send
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:27:51 AM RE: question - how can e-mail be sent from me that I didn't send Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greetings, On Sunday, June 23, 2002, 11:17:33 AM, you wrote: alists I've been reading about the spamcop and filtering, I periodically alists receive email from me that is not sent from me. If I look at alists the view headers, it says it came from me! How can this be? Now, alists I've submitted this to spamcop.. and it just dawned on me that alists they may ban regular email addres as spam!!! do you have any alists ideas on what to do or how to stop this? Have you investigated the contents of your The_Bat!'s account sent or outbox folders? When is the last time you run a complete virus test on your system? I would have to guess that your system in infected and yes ... reporting mail from me to me to Spamcop, with full RFC-822 headers will indeed blacklist your e-mail address and/or IP address (with most IP's being issued dynamically this could cause serious problems for another user who pulls that IP address when connecting his/her system to the Internet). I would suggest, at this time, that you install a least TWO antivirus programs, run both (not simultaneously though) and do a complete system scan for a virus, trojan or worm. Anyway ... Hope this helps. - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. PGP Key http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2zxyn/pubring.pkr COFFEE.EXE Missing---Insert Cup and Press Any Key. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 9.0b1 iQA/AwUBPRnDRoltdOMeoDcuEQLrFwCgmDA/3X2IdqBosGEoOBq0gMmoanAAn3en N65czYZJR9QPmmN+vucM4egA =yV+f -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Word wrap help, please.
Hello Mike, On Wednesday, June 26, 2002 at 3:31:40 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): MA PGP Wraps clear-signed at column 72 Disable it, unless you _really_ need it for PGP rewrapping texts from other applications than The Bat!. If you do need the wrapping nowhere else but in conjunction with The Bat! let The Bat! wrap instead of PGP. It does a great job on this issue. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) So is NKOTB still L-A-M-E? - roughly what Letterman said. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Word wrap help, please.
Hello Mike Apsey, In Reference to your Posting on Wednesday, June 26 2002 at 06:31 AM PDT, gpg: Signature made 06/26/02 06:32:14 PDT using DSA key ID 26C51F27 gpg: Good signature from Mike Apsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature! gpg: There is no indication that the signature belongs to the owner. Fingerprint: 62E1 E4F5 80C8 6825 8DC4 8C1D A402 E6B0 26C5 1F27 TB! Wraps at 70 PGP Wraps clear-signed at column 72 Editor/Viewer preferences has only Autowrap checked. With TB, you can turn PGP's wrapping off altogether because what you see as you type... is what you get when you send... there is no need for further wrapping. Turn PGP's wrapping off and PGP will simply clear-sign what you see on screen. That is one of the nice features of Becky... having it's own Newsreader, because it therefore uses Becky's own Editor which is very similar to TB's in that it's WYSIWYG. So, I do not have to change any setting when posting to Newsgroups or writing E-Mails. Hopefully this same feature will be available to TB Users when/if a Newsreader Plugin is made available. -- Nick Andriash Courtenay, B.C. Canada Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Word wrap help, please.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:49:37 AM RE: Word wrap help, please. Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greetings Mike, On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 9:31:40 AM, you wrote: Mike TB! Wraps at 70 Mike PGP Wraps clear-signed at column 72 Mike Editor/Viewer preferences has only Autowrap checked. Mike Recommendations and comments most appreciated. I seem to run into this Mike when using the Initial for quoted text, and signing messages, which Mike may be a clue, but I thought I'd ask the experts. Insert in your reply macro %WRAPPED=%Quotes Hope this helps. - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. PGP Key http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2zxyn/pubring.pkr What boots up must come down. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 9.0b1 iQA/AwUBPRnGs4ltdOMeoDcuEQLgAACfTcvrP6xHH5XCztZhY9hfz6xwWUAAoL46 nlkp4Uw7vvO+QOucGm5Ypsjj =dpfl -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Mail downloading problems
Hi Tim, TM What is this tool? Where do you find it? I did a search on my system TM and didn't come up with it... I think it comes with Win98. If you have Windows Commander (which searches through CAB files), maybe you can search your Win CD to see if it's on there. Best, -Daan- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Filters
About the classes of filters, other than Incoming, how do the others work? Outgoing, Read, Replied. Take Replied for example, on what basis does it decide it is filtering? And how would you decide what you would enter for a filter string? And in what order do these things apply? -- Best regards, Adam Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[3]: ROT13 support
Hello Kurgan, Tuesday, June 25, 2002, 6:27:21 PM, you wrote: KLc Just curious, but what exactly *is* rot13? Sounds interesting. ROT13 is a method of 'encrypting' messages. Well, ok, it really is encryption, buts its such a weak form of it its not used for security. The ROT stands for rotate, and 13 is the number of places. IE, rotate each charector 13 spaces through the alphabet. Thus A becomes N, B becomes O and so forth. ROT(n) stands for rotate N letters, so you can ROT14 if you wanted. The benifit of ROT13 is that the english language has 26 letters, so rather than having to have 2 programs(or functions) - one for encrypting and one for decrypting, you can instead use the same function to encrypt and decrypt(first pass, A becomes N, second pass N becomes A) It's main usage was for spoilers, flames, etc. The idea being you 'encrypt' potentially offensive messages sent to public mailing lists/newsgroups as a warning for those easily offended. If someone goes to the effort of decrypting your post and takes offense at the content - well, they WERE warned. I also see it used as an alternate method of encryping email addresses. I've seen a number of posts on usenet where the signature is 'echo ROT13 encrypted email address | rot13'. Which is a unixish type way of saying send this text through the rot13 program to find out my email address. A simple method of spambot avoidance, similiar to the way many people encrypt email addresses for mailto links. Its not a secure mechanism, but as long as MOST people aren't using such methods, spambots will continue to be written to find only the easy fish. -- Best regards, Garymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mail downloading problems
Hey Daniel, My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60q) Business to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 at 9:55:34 AM. DvRC I think it comes with Win98. That would explain it, I have 2k. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60q Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) What else can you do at 3:00 am? Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: question - how can email be sent from me that I didn't send
On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, DG Raftery Sr. wrote... Have you investigated the contents of your The_Bat!'s account sent or outbox folders? When is the last time you run a complete virus test on your system? I would have to guess that your system in infected and yes ... reporting mail from me to me to Spamcop, with full RFC-822 headers will indeed blacklist your e-mail address and/or IP address (with most IP's being issued dynamically this could cause serious problems for another user who pulls that IP address when connecting his/her system to the Internet). If it was a virus that sent the email, then looking in your sent items isn't going to do anything... Take Klez for example, has it's own SMTP server built in. Plus TB! isn't affected by most of the viruses that affect Outlook/Outlook Express. As for submitting mail to spamcop addressed from you to you... it doesn't always read the to/from addresses. It does read the headers, and if the headers point to your address, then yes, it'd be submitted as spam, and you'd have ended up reporting yourself. But spamcop doesn't deal with viruses, and as far as I remember, has no plans to do so either. I would suggest, at this time, that you install a least TWO antivirus programs, run both (not simultaneously though) and do a complete system scan for a virus, trojan or worm. Or http://housecall.antivirus.com :) -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: ROT13 support
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas, Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 2:10:59 AM, you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: TF Hello Mike, TF On Tue, 25 Jun 2002 21:32:43 -0400 GMT (26/06/02, 08:32 +0700 GMT), TF Mike Apsey wrote: MA Quite easy to read with Agent installed and a copy/paste. ROT-13 is, MA of course, a good over-the-shoulder security feature but that's it. TF I don't see it as a security feature but a toy, which is sometimes TF fun. TF V pna nqq pbzzragf gung arjovrf pna'g ernq. Be pna gurl? One more try on the problem post to see if disabling the PGP wrap works. Thank you for bearing with me and the help. My incoming mail server has been only intermittently available since our deluge of Monday past here in Tampa but I am able to read replies to my posted word-wrap thread through the web. So we shall see with this one. This list has its own templates, thus posting to it for a real test makes it a bit easier. - -- My Best! Mike MUA = TB! v1.60q (www.RitLabs.com/the_bat) Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) DH/DSS PGP Key: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/musings/ -or- DH/DSS PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=key_request [If it's worth doing, it's worth overdoing! G. HARRY STINE] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ Comment: KeyID: 0x26C51F27 Comment: Fingerprint: 62E1 E4F5 80C8 6825 8DC4 8C1D A402 E6B0 26C5 1F27 iQA/AwUBPRnOiaQC5rAmxR8nEQJoRwCgxuL6D+w3RkpRl4c2B5liDgL2IPIAoKp0 qoGdnrimJ8yWIZDUrfZUZm/G =rwBa -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Filters
Hallo Adam, On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 11:34:14 -0230GMT (26-6-02, 16:04 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: A About the classes of filters, other than Incoming, how do the others A work? Outgoing, Read, Replied. Take Replied for example, on what A basis does it decide it is filtering? And how would you decide what A you would enter for a filter string? And in what order do these A things apply? It's rather easy. Incoming filters are triggered when the condition is met on an incoming message. Outgoing filters are triggered when the condition is met on an outgoing message. Read filters are triggered when the condition is met on a message that you've just read (and that is AUTOMATICALLY changed from unread to read). The source directory matters very much here. Replied filters are triggered when the condition is met on a message that you've just written a reply to. The source directory matters very much here. Selective download filters are only being used with the mail dispatcher. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Filters
Hello Roelof, Read filters are triggered when the condition is met on a message that you've just read (and that is AUTOMATICALLY changed from unread to read). Automatically OR *manually* marked as read. -- Best regards, Miguel A. Urech (El Escorial - Spain) Using The Bat! v1.60c Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hi DG, Thank you for the suggestion, I'll give it a try. Unfortunately, I continue to be unable to send mail from TB! for my cogeco.ca account (the same holds true for my wife's account), I can send and receive from myrealbox account. Everything works fine using Becky, OE or Foxmail...so I don't have a clue as to what is up with TB I'll be moving to a different ISP in a few weeks, so I'll see if this behaviour continues then. Thanks again! Ravi -Original Message- From: DG Raftery Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ravi Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 09:16:04 -0400 Subject: Re: Can Not Send Mail -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:08:49 AM RE: Can Not Send Mail Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greetings Ravi, On Sunday, June 23, 2002, 6:10:27 PM, you wrote: Ravi Please forgive me but I am unable to receive messages from the list Ravi (apparently regardless of my email client) and as such cannot respond Ravi to those that responded to my earlier post. Unfortunately I am forced Ravi to have somewhat of a one way conversation. I have unsubscribed and Ravi re-subscribed to the TBUDL twice and am still not receiving any Ravi messages from it. I only see what appears in the archives Ravi Januk indicated: The more common problem was that most SMTP servers Ravi would reject mail being sent through them unless the FROM and/or REPLY-TO Ravi addresses matched yourISP address. So for example, if you had an account @softhome.net, Ravi then you couldn't send through their server with the address @canada.com. Although this subject has been asked and answered many times in The_Bat!'s lists you may want to try Mercury/32 (http://www.pmail.com/downloads_risc_t.htm) which is a freeware SMTP server. During install select to utilize the direct mailer option versus the relay server option. This will negate any ISP problems relaying mail at Mercury/32 will resolve the recipient's address and send the message(s) direct to the recipient's mail server. It is used here and has yet to fail me sending e-mail anywhere unless the recipient's e-mail address is invalid. Anyway ... Hope this helps. - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. PGP Key http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2zxyn/pubring.pkr It is easier to write an incorrect program than understand a correct one. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 9.0b1 iQA/AwUBPRm+kYltdOMeoDcuEQKsIwCeLT15A+76m4on2XI+7FMwsz0hOjQAnisX s5vQahfsVH+vZNvch08IWiCZ =e4w0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hi DG, Thank you for the suggestion, I'll give it a try. Unfortunately, I continue to be unable to send mail from TB! from my cogeco.ca account (the same holds true for my wife's account), I can send and receive from myrealbox account. Everything works fine using Becky, OE or Foxmail...so I don't have a clue as to what is up with TB I'll be moving to a different ISP in a few weeks, so I'll see if this behaviour continues then. Thanks again! Ravi -Original Message- From: DG Raftery Sr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ravi Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 09:16:04 -0400 Subject: Re: Can Not Send Mail -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:08:49 AM RE: Can Not Send Mail Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greetings Ravi, On Sunday, June 23, 2002, 6:10:27 PM, you wrote: Ravi Please forgive me but I am unable to receive messages from the list Ravi (apparently regardless of my email client) and as such cannot respond Ravi to those that responded to my earlier post. Unfortunately I am forced Ravi to have somewhat of a one way conversation. I have unsubscribed and Ravi re-subscribed to the TBUDL twice and am still not receiving any Ravi messages from it. I only see what appears in the archives Ravi Januk indicated: The more common problem was that most SMTP servers Ravi would reject mail being sent through them unless the FROM and/or REPLY-TO Ravi addresses matched yourISP address. So for example, if you had an account @softhome.net, Ravi then you couldn't send through their server with the address @canada.com. Although this subject has been asked and answered many times in The_Bat!'s lists you may want to try Mercury/32 (http://www.pmail.com/downloads_risc_t.htm) which is a freeware SMTP server. During install select to utilize the direct mailer option versus the relay server option. This will negate any ISP problems relaying mail at Mercury/32 will resolve the recipient's address and send the message(s) direct to the recipient's mail server. It is used here and has yet to fail me sending e-mail anywhere unless the recipient's e-mail address is invalid. Anyway ... Hope this helps. - -- Regards, DG Raftery Sr. PGP Key http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze2zxyn/pubring.pkr It is easier to write an incorrect program than understand a correct one. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP 9.0b1 iQA/AwUBPRm+kYltdOMeoDcuEQKsIwCeLT15A+76m4on2XI+7FMwsz0hOjQAnisX s5vQahfsVH+vZNvch08IWiCZ =e4w0 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Filters
Hello Miguel, On Wednesday, June 26, 2002 at 5:53:46 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): Read filters are triggered when the condition is met on a message that you've just read (and that is AUTOMATICALLY changed from unread to read). MAU Automatically OR *manually* marked as read. No. Manually marking read hooks 'Read messages' filters only if 'Mark message as read when it is being read for' in account properties / 'Options' is deactivated. Which makes sense, as manually marking read is the only way to trigger the filter with this option deactivated. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) What sane person could live in this world and not be crazy? - Ursula K. LeGuin Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hello Ravi, On Wednesday, June 26, 2002 at 6:00:17 PM you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (at least in part): Unfortunately, I continue to be unable to send mail from TB! from my cogeco.ca account Have you ever tried dropping a note to 'cogeco.ca' support, requesting what Server reply Error: Message content rejected. could mean? I've never in my life seen this error message before. I don't have the smallest idea what problem the SMTP-server could run into, when trying to relay your mail. It would be a _great_ idea, if 'cogeco.ca' could tell you what they (their server) think(s) is wrong with your mail. Only, and I mean ONLY, with this information in back hand we will _possibly_ be able to help and tell what setting might need a change in your The Bat! setup. -- Regards Peter Palmreuthermailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Bat! v1.60q on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2) What do we learn from history? That we learn nothing from history. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mail downloading problems
Hello Tim Musson, On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 10:07:12 -0400 GMT your local time, which was Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 9:07:12 PM (GMT+0700) my local time, Tim Musson wrote: Hey Daniel, My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60q) Business to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 at 9:55:34 AM. DvRC I think it comes with Win98. That would explain it, I have 2k. I have a hacked version somewhere which works under 2000... -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.60m mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] C.C.S. Associates FAX (USA): (208) 460-3753 pgp 6.5.3 : 0x909D9B10 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Word wrap help, please.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter, Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 9:48:09 AM, you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: PP Disable it, unless you _really_ need it for PGP rewrapping texts from other PP applications than The Bat!. If you do need the wrapping nowhere else but in PP conjunction with The Bat! let The Bat! wrap instead of PGP. It does a great PP job on this issue. Thank you Peter, Nick, and DG. It was the PGP wrap and as you see things worked when I disabled that. - -- My Best! Mike MUA = TB! v1.60q (www.RitLabs.com/the_bat) Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) DH/DSS PGP Key: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/musings/ -or- DH/DSS PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=key_request [Enthusiasm is the greatest asset in the world. It beats money and power and influence. CHESTER] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ Comment: KeyID: 0x26C51F27 Comment: Fingerprint: 62E1 E4F5 80C8 6825 8DC4 8C1D A402 E6B0 26C5 1F27 iQA/AwUBPRn4raQC5rAmxR8nEQL/YgCgrvJ3IheQRySHv4ZeFmEsHNzguMQAoJge CRn0DloiMYazOGQy793dMq7D =QgEA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Mail Ticker properties
I've 'lost' the place where I can set how long the mail ticker will wait until displaying and then how long it will keep displaying. Where are those settings located?? -- JN Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mail Ticker properties
On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 6:33:21 PM, Joseph N. wrote: I've 'lost' the place where I can set how long the mail ticker will wait until displaying and then how long it will keep displaying. Where are those settings located?? Right-click on the ticker when it is on the screen (you may need to set it to display all the time), and you will find the time settings under Messages|Age Limits. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Word wrap help, please.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Peter, Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 9:48:09 AM, you wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: PP Disable it, unless you _really_ need it for PGP rewrapping texts PP from other applications than The Bat!. If you do need the wrapping PP nowhere else but in conjunction with The Bat! let The Bat! wrap PP instead of PGP. It does a great job on this issue. Okay, this time I manually wrapped the above line (Alt+L). I tried the %WRAPPED=%Quotes but it didn't seem to do anything. I have tbud in my address book, and theres a template there. I also have a template in my tbud folder for those messages I might reply to from that folder but not listbound. I'm doing something wrong. Notice the quote included below. Notice there's a space before the closing bracket, and that space does not appear in either my tbud adddress book reply template or in my tbud folder reply template. Color me confused again. sigh - -- My Best! Mike MUA = TB! v1.60q (www.RitLabs.com/the_bat) Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) DH/DSS PGP Key: http://home.tampabay.rr.com/musings/ -or- DH/DSS PGP Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?subject=key_request [If it's good they'll stop making it. BLOCK ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt http://www.ipgpp.com/ Comment: KeyID: 0x26C51F27 Comment: Fingerprint: 62E1 E4F5 80C8 6825 8DC4 8C1D A402 E6B0 26C5 1F27 iQA/AwUBPRn+UqQC5rAmxR8nEQJkEgCfUa/GzliBPeEjtLsSCOZrfLZtfHYAoNsi xPcACO/Sp2zzaofYHhknVmyK =zd3V -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mail Ticker properties
Hey Joseph, My MUA believes you used The Bat! (v1.60q) Business to write [EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED] on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 at 1:33:21 PM. JN I've 'lost' the place where I can set how long the mail ticker JN will wait until displaying and then how long it will keep JN displaying. Where are those settings located?? Right click the Ticker | Messages | Age Limits... Is that what you are looking for? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Using The Bat! eMail v1.60q Windows 2000 5.0.2195 (Service Pack 2) How do you make Windows faster ? Throw it harder Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Word wrap help, please.
On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, Mike Apsey wrote... Okay, this time I manually wrapped the above line (Alt+L). I tried the %WRAPPED=%Quotes but it didn't seem to do anything. From what I've read, using that %WRAPPED macro only wraps the first paragraph, or the first block of text it his, up to the next double new line. So you may have attempted to wrap the on date... text at the top. There was a recursive macro developed a while back on this list, but I couldn't give you any links, as I forgot what it was under. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Word wrap help, please.
Hello Mike, On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 13:47:55 -0400 GMT (27/06/02, 00:47 +0700 GMT), Mike Apsey wrote: MA Okay, this time I manually wrapped the above line (Alt+L). I tried the MA %WRAPPED=%Quotes but it didn't seem to do anything. Unfortunately, I only works on the first paragraph of a quoted text. This will probably be the greeting. MA I'm doing something wrong. Notice the quote included below. Notice MA there's a space before the closing bracket, and that space does not MA appear in either my tbud adddress book reply template or in my tbud MA folder reply template. Maybe it does. Could you post that line of your template here, so we can (viciously g) dissect it? MA Color me confused again. sigh Yes, your mail turned up pink in my Inbox. ;-) -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. A fool and his money are soon partying. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60q under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, Ravi Joshi wrote... 1. TB! will not send messages from my cogeco.ca acct. Server reply Error: Message content rejected. I get this at home as well, but not with TB, and I know it's my fault. I setup my mail server so securely I cannot send via it if I use the external network card IP address instead of the internal one. (ie using 1.2.3.4 instead of 192.168.0.1). snip 3. When sending a message within TB! from my MRB acct. to my Cogeco acct. I receive a mail delivery failure message from the MRB server indicating the message could not be delivered b/c the Message content was rejected. That sounds like a configuration error at their end. What are you putting in the email? What are the to/from fields set to? 5. I can send/receive messages using a variety of other clients... Becky, OE Foxmail On the same accounts that fail in TB? 12. When TBUDL tries to send messages to me they are apparently bouncing. I have now set up through MRB (and am glad to be back!). That truly sounds like a configuration error on their end. For somebody else to get bounces as well? -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Word wrap help, please.
Hello Mike, On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 14:57:24 -0400 GMT (27/06/02, 01:57 +0700 GMT), Mike Apsey wrote: MA [%COOKIE='p:\program files\bat\batcookies.txt'] See nothing wrong with this one. I was expecting a space you had put somewhere... MA Funny, I manually formatted this one, and the space went away. so it's fixed, son;t worry about it any more. :-) MA Of course it was a long one. Maybe that's my clue. I have not used MA \n throughout my cookie file yet it's ~1,235 lines and growing. If you use the %Wrapped macro, \n will be ignored. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Planet: A body of Earth surrounded by sky. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60q under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 7:56:52 PM, Jonathan Angliss wrote: 12. When TBUDL tries to send messages to me they are apparently bouncing. I have now set up through MRB (and am glad to be back!). That truly sounds like a configuration error on their end. For somebody else to get bounces as well? I tried sending a message to Ravi by PM and via the list at the weekend, and the mail to the Cogeco account bounced, with the same message. Interestingly, I just tried again, with a message sent via TB, and one sent via my ISP's webmail service (so avoiding the use of TB). The message sent via TB bounced. The one sent via webmail has not (yet). This would suggest that the Cogeco servers do not like something about messages sent via TB! Very strange. Perhaps Ravi could confirm whether he got a message from me via PM? Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Word wrap help, please.
On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, Thomas F wrote... If you use the %Wrapped macro, \n will be ignored. You can however put \n\n in the file, and it'll perform standard wrapping, and treat the line as a new paragraph. An example where this may be used is if you wanted to put the author in... like this: [this is my funny quote of the day... not very good though] --- My author goes here Using the %wrapped macro will still wrap the first bit (although not required), but the author line will still be put two lines down. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, Julian Beach (Lists) wrote... Interestingly, I just tried again, with a message sent via TB, and one sent via my ISP's webmail service (so avoiding the use of TB). The message sent via TB bounced. The one sent via webmail has not (yet). This would suggest that the Cogeco servers do not like something about messages sent via TB! I'd find it highly unusual for an ISP to block based on email client... in fact highly stupid. Not saying impossible, but highly unlikely. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 8:17:59 PM, Jonathan Angliss wrote: I'd find it highly unusual for an ISP to block based on email client... in fact highly stupid. Not saying impossible, but highly unlikely. I agree, so it will be interesting to see whether Ravi got the message that I did not send using TB. Messages are also bouncing when they are sent from TBUDL - does this run using TB? Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Filters
El miércoles 26 de junio de 2002, 12.49, Roelof Otten decía: RO Selective download filters are only being used with the mail RO dispatcher. I think you're wrong here. I remember using selective download filters some time ago, and they worked with the 'normal' 'Get new mail', independently from the mail dispatcher. -- Ricardo M. Reyes | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (Mar del Plata - Argentina) | Usando The Bat! 1.60c Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Word wrap help, please.
Hello Jonathan, On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 14:15:15 -0500 GMT (27/06/02, 02:15 +0700 GMT), Jonathan Angliss wrote: JA You can however put \n\n in the file, and it'll perform standard JA wrapping, and treat the line as a new paragraph. I didn't know that. Thanks! -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. It takes money to make money because you have to copy the design exactly. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60q under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, Julian Beach (Lists) wrote... I agree, so it will be interesting to see whether Ravi got the message that I did not send using TB. Messages are also bouncing when they are sent from TBUDL - does this run using TB? I think TBUDL is run on listar [http://www.listar.org/] so no... it's not being run on TB!. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
ON Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 9:24:07 PM, you wrote: JBL On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 8:17:59 PM, Jonathan Angliss wrote: I'd find it highly unusual for an ISP to block based on email client... in fact highly stupid. Not saying impossible, but highly unlikely. JBL I agree, so it will be interesting to see whether Ravi got the message JBL that I did not send using TB. Messages are also bouncing when they are JBL sent from TBUDL - does this run using TB? JBL Julian Hi Julian, I had msg's bounce on me because the line length was to long. This can happen because TB does not add hard returns when wrapping. Could this be the case? -- Best regards, Gerard -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= A flashlight is a case for holding dead batteries. Using The Bat! v1.60i on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mail Ticker properties
btw, been meaning to say it would be nice to have a toggle button and/or keyboard shortcut for mailticker... if it's distracting or slwing the system down, I turn it off, but when I want it back on again it currently takes many steps... Best regards, Aaron Aaron Green, MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hallo Ravi, On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 14:46:27 -0400GMT (26-6-02, 20:46 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: RJ Yes I checked with Cogeco.ca (a frustration in itself!!). Their RJ servers are are functioning, they do not know what the message RJ means, and they do not support any e-mail client other than...drum RJ roll pleaseOE! (the saps - sorry should have ROT'd that part). Tried to send you a message with TB. This is my log: 0002 26-06-2002 22:31:42 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - smtp.cogeco.ca + 0044 smtp.cogeco.ca [26-06-2002 22:31:42] 0002 0044 26-06-2002 22:31:42 Starting connection to smtp.cogeco.ca 0002 0044 26-06-2002 22:31:43 Establishing protocol with smtp.cogeco.ca 0002 0044 26-06-2002 22:31:44 220 fep2.cogeco.net ESMTP Cogeco Cablesystems 0002 0044 26-06-2002 22:31:45 HELO krakeel.org--- 250 fep2.cogeco.net 0002 0044 26-06-2002 22:31:45 Starting delivery of KRKL841460763 0002 0044 26-06-2002 22:31:46 MAIL FROM:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- 250 Ok 0002 0044 26-06-2002 22:31:47 RCPT TO:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- 250 Ok 0002 0044 26-06-2002 22:31:47 DATA --- 354 End data with CRLF.CRLF 0002 0044 26-06-2002 22:31:55 . --- 552 Error: Message content rejected 8002 0044 26-06-2002 22:31:55 Returning message KRKL841460763 to sender 0002 0044 26-06-2002 22:31:55 Completed delivery of KRKL84146075D~smtp_cogeco_ca 0002 0044 26-06-2002 22:31:56 RSET --- 250 Ok - 0044 Until the 552 response everything looks fine. According to rfc821 552 means: Requested mail action aborted: exceeded storage allocation So it's a bit odd that cogeco is complaining about message content. My own server thinks the message is ok. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hi Jonathan, JA I'd find it highly unusual for an ISP to block based on email JA client... in fact highly stupid. Not saying impossible, but highly JA unlikely. I have that feeling that something in The Bat's headers may be what's causing problems with this ISP. Here are the headers from an e-mail sent using TB and one sent using Becky (which Ravi says he gets OK). I can't see anything weird with what TB is doing other than the order which technically shouldn't matter. YahooMail, for example, throws headers in all sorts of weird order. Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from bosco (lats09-154.znet.net [207.167.97.154]) by muddy.siteprotect.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA08710 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 15:55:41 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 13:55:24 -0700 From: Blarp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Test from Becky Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver. 2.00.08 Status: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from 207.167.97.186 (lats09-186.znet.net [207.167.97.186]) by muddy.siteprotect.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25702 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 14:43:15 -0500 Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 12:42:49 -0700 From: Blarp [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal Reply-To: Blarp [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Test from The Bat MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: -- Tom G. http://blarp.com -- Free tech support The Bat 1.60q - Windows 2000 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Filters
Hallo Ricardo, On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 16:30:29 -0300GMT (26-6-02, 21:30 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: RO Selective download filters are only being used with the mail RO dispatcher. RMR I think you're wrong here. I remember using selective download filters You're probably right. I've always considered the selective download filters as an automatic dispatcher, hence my comment. Never bothered to use them. -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hello Gerard, In Reference to your Posting on Wednesday, June 26 2002 at 01:18 PM PDT, I had msg's bounce on me because the line length was to long. This can happen because TB does not add hard returns when wrapping. Ah... but she does add hard returns. -- Nick Andriash Courtenay, B.C. Canada Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, Roelof Otten wrote... RJ Yes I checked with Cogeco.ca (a frustration in itself!!). [snip] Tried to send you a message with TB. This is my log: [snip] Well, I just tried to use telnet to send an email to Ravi, and it posted fine. [ja@vampire ja]# telnet smtp.cogeco.ca 25 Trying 216.221.81.25... Connected to smtp.cogeco.ca. Escape character is '^]'. 220 fep6.cogeco.net ESMTP Cogeco Cablesystems EHLO vampire.certiflexdimension.com 250-fep6.cogeco.net 250-PIPELINING 250-SIZE 15485760 250-VRFY 250-ETRN 250-XVERP 250 8BITMIME mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 Ok rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 250 Ok data 354 End data with CRLF.CRLF Hello, This is a quick test telnet email. Excuse the unusual formating . 250 Ok: queued as A9A653926 quit 221 Bye Connection closed by foreign host. [ja@vampire ja]# Erm... should have added bad spelling too ;) Sending via telnet to his account seemed to have worked fine. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mail Ticker properties
Hi Aaron. At 4:43 PM on Wednesday, June 26, 2002 you wrote the following about [Mail Ticker properties]: AG [...] it would be nice to have a toggle button and/or AG keyboard shortcut for mailticker... You can assign a system-wide hot key to view Mail Ticker messages. Menu - Options - Define System Hot Keys Will that do it for you? -- Jan Rifkinson Ridgefield, CT USA TB! V1.60q/W2K_SP2 ICQ 41116329 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Filters
Hello Roelof, Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 1:19:25 PM, you wrote: RO Outgoing filters are triggered when the condition is met on an RO outgoing message. Are Outgoing filters very commonly used? Do people often have a number of folders and not send to sent-mail? RO Replied filters are triggered when the condition is met on a message RO that you've just written a reply to. The source directory matters very RO much here. So does this occur when getting mail? Is Bat the only program with these options? -- Best regards, Adam Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hallo Jonathan, On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 16:20:28 -0500GMT (26-6-02, 23:20 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: RJ Yes I checked with Cogeco.ca (a frustration in itself!!). Tried to send you a message with TB. This is my log: JA Well, I just tried to use telnet to send an email to Ravi, and it JA posted fine. I have been sending the same message (same msg-id) over and over to Ravi's cogeca account. Everytime deleting (a part of) a header. When I deleted the complete x-mailer header the message got delivered. This doesn't get delivered: X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal X-Mailer: The Bat! X-Mailer: The Bat This gets delivered: X-Mailer: roelof X-Mailer: cogeco basher No X-Mailer I'm not sure about the reason behind this, but it surely looks like somebody down there doesn't like The Bat! Ravi, sorry for the dupes I've been sending... -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, Roelof Otten wrote... I have been sending the same message (same msg-id) over and over to Ravi's cogeca account. Everytime deleting (a part of) a header. When I deleted the complete x-mailer header the message got delivered. Based on that information, then I'd have thought (still) it's a configuration error, and Ravi's provider doesn't like TB. I'd advise him to get in touch with them, and speak with a supervisor instead of a standard tech... or even try getting to speak with a sysadmin somewhere on site. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Filters
Hallo Adam, On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 19:08:43 -0230GMT (26-6-02, 23:38 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: RO Outgoing filters are triggered when the condition is met on an RO outgoing message. A Are Outgoing filters very commonly used? Do people often have a A number of folders and not send to sent-mail? I don't know how regularly they're used. My brother uses them (No, I didn't teach him) and he doesn't use TB. RO Replied filters are triggered when the condition is met on a message RO that you've just written a reply to. The source directory matters very RO much here. A So does this occur when getting mail? No. It occurs when you've got a mail somewhere and you reply to it. A Is Bat the only program with these options? Don't think so. TB has a lot of options with filtering, more than most programs, but none of the options unique. (I think) -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 10:54:19 PM, Roelof Otten wrote: I'm not sure about the reason behind this, but it surely looks like somebody down there doesn't like The Bat! That is outrageous! This also explains why messages from TBUDL were bouncing, because most people posting are using TB and therefore have the offending mail headers. Julian -- Using The Bat! v1.60q on Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Filters
Hello Adam, Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 2:38:43 PM, you wrote: RO Outgoing filters are triggered when the condition is met on an RO outgoing message. A Are Outgoing filters very commonly used? Do people often have a A number of folders and not send to sent-mail? I use outgoing filter to save messages to certain people in certain folders. really helps keep things organized. RO Replied filters are triggered when the condition is met on a message RO that you've just written a reply to. The source directory matters very RO much here. A So does this occur when getting mail? A Is Bat the only program with these options? -- best regards, Laura Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Account log
Another dumb question here. I look at my account log and count 64 messages. And it says FETCH - connection finished - 84 messages received -- Best regards, Adam Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
An Idea.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 hi list, someone just gave me an idea: if you have two accounts, yet in the preferences you point them to have the same home-directory (under filesdirectories), what consequences would that have? could you for example still have different mail-retrieval settings or have the accounts effectively become one-and-the-same? Mrten. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt7 iQA/AwUBPRovqktQMadp+KslEQJwjACg2jGFYUr6iLO+l/F/Ya1cfxqE5IMAoIo0 kAQFpptdz2igikL8RUNoyhbd =lNZs -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Account log
Hallo Adam, On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 19:41:37 -0230GMT (27-6-02, 0:11 +0200GMT, where I live), you wrote: A Another dumb question here. I look at my account log and count 64 A messages. And it says FETCH - connection finished - 84 messages A received Paste your log in a message, then we'll be able to say something, but without a log I don't know. Time to go to bed. The alarm will go off at six. :-( -- Groetjes, Roelof Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hi Ravi, On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, at 12:00:17 [GMT -0400] (which was 4:00 a.m. here in Eastbourne, N.Z.) you wrote: RJ Unfortunately, I continue to be unable to send RJ mail from TB! Just a thought but I had problems with my ISP so loaded Postcast Server 2 (free SMTP from your desk top) and that fixed everything. Here is the URL http://www.postcastserver.com/ -- Regards, Chris Put knot yore trust inn spel chequers Using The Bat! 1.60q E-Mail System with Windows XP Pro. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Can Not Send Mail
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 13:56:52 -0500 Jonathan Angliss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JA 3. When sending a message within TB! from my MRB acct. to my Cogeco JA acct. I receive a mail delivery failure message from the MRB server JA indicating the message could not be delivered b/c the Message JA content was rejected. JA JA That sounds like a configuration error at their end. What are you JA putting in the email? What are the to/from fields set to? They are To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JA 5. I can send/receive messages using a variety of other clients... JA Becky, OE Foxmail JA JA On the same accounts that fail in TB? Yes! That's the odd part. Cogeco is therefore blaming TB! as a client problem Ravi Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hello Chris You wrote On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, at 10:56:03 [GMT +1200] (08:56:03 Thursday, 27 June 2002 where I live):- Just a thought but I had problems with my ISP so loaded Postcast Server 2 (free SMTP from your desk top) and that fixed everything. Here is the URL http://www.postcastserver.com/ Do you have to write outgoing messages in this software in order to get it to work? (just too lazy, being an Aussie, to read the FAQ). ;-} -- Regards, John Phillips Sydney, Australia [EMAIL PROTECTED] HTML mail spam not welcome. Using Bat! 1.60q 7BE05C47 - Being used by Windows 98 4.10 Build ASony Vaio Notebook PCG-505TS Pentium 300 64meg ram A Big Mouth Travels Far. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Mailinglists that don't set reply-to
Listmembers, Does anyone have a killer solution to handle mailinglists which don't use the Reply-To: header to direct replies back to the list? I just recently joined a few lists that are running on ezmlm which doesn't do this by default (I always modify that behaviour), and 'reply-to-all' includes the 'Sender:' address as well which means I always end up editing the To: and CC: manually to fix things. Moreover, the nicely looking 'Peter Rabbit on SOMELIST [EMAIL PROTECTED]' To: that I get on lists with 'reply-to' because of my templates also doesn't work for these lists. Is there a way to fix this? (short of asking them to add the reply-to which they probably won't do because I guess they're the ppl who are fans of that well-known article that argues that adding/modifying the reply-to in list-messages is 'evil') -- With kind regards, Maurice Snellen Using The Bat! v1.60m on Windows 2000 5.0 Build 2195 Service Pack 2 Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Can Not Send Mail
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 20:12:55 +0100 Julian Beach (Lists) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: JB( On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 7:56:52 PM, Jonathan Angliss wrote: JB( JB( 12. When TBUDL tries to send messages to me they are apparently JB( bouncing. I have now set up through MRB (and am glad to be back!). JB( JB( That truly sounds like a configuration error on their end. For JB( somebody else to get bounces as well? JB( JB( I tried sending a message to Ravi by PM and via the list at the JB( weekend, and the mail to the Cogeco account bounced, with the same JB( message. JB( JB( Interestingly, I just tried again, with a message sent via TB, and one JB( sent via my ISP's webmail service (so avoiding the use of TB). The JB( message sent via TB bounced. The one sent via webmail has not (yet). JB( This would suggest that the Cogeco servers do not like something about JB( messages sent via TB! JB( JB( Very strange. Perhaps Ravi could confirm whether he got a message JB( from me via PM? Yes, received one message from you (directed to cogeco.ca) where you indicated this was the version sent via your ISP's webmail service. I am now as an interim measure using Becky!...So Becky! did not receive the message you sent via TB!...so as you say something in TB! is causing the Cogeco servers to bounce it Ravi Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Can Not Send Mail
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 23:54:19 +0200 Roelof Otten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RO Hallo Jonathan, RO RO On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 16:20:28 -0500GMT (26-6-02, 23:20 +0200GMT, where RO I live), you wrote: RO RO RJ Yes I checked with Cogeco.ca (a frustration in itself!!). RO Tried to send you a message with TB. This is my log: RO RO JA Well, I just tried to use telnet to send an email to Ravi, and it RO JA posted fine. RO RO I have been sending the same message (same msg-id) over and over to RO Ravi's cogeca account. Everytime deleting (a part of) a header. When I RO deleted the complete x-mailer header the message got delivered. RO RO This doesn't get delivered: RO X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Personal RO X-Mailer: The Bat! RO X-Mailer: The Bat RO RO This gets delivered: RO X-Mailer: roelof RO X-Mailer: cogeco basher RO No X-Mailer RO RO I'm not sure about the reason behind this, but it surely looks like RO somebody down there doesn't like The Bat! RO RO Ravi, sorry for the dupes I've been sending... Not a problem...received all your messages...and I *very* much appreciate everyones help in this. You have given me good stuff to go back to Cogeco with. Ravi RO RO -- RO Groetjes, Roelof RO RO RO RO Current Ver: 1.60q RO FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com RO Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RO Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com RO Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RO TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] RO Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Mail Ticker properties
Right click the Ticker | Messages | Age Limits... Thanks to all who replied. -- JN Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Mail Ticker properties
JR You can assign a system-wide hot key to view Mail Ticker JR messages. [...] JR Will that do it for you? Thanks, Jan, but no, it wouldn't, as the problem is I want to be able to turn the ticker ITSELF on and off easily. (off is easy enough; on requires multiple steps!) Best regards, Aaron Aaron Green, MD [EMAIL PROTECTED] Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: An Idea.
if you have two accounts, yet in the preferences you point them to have the same home-directory (under filesdirectories), what consequences would that have? Good idea! That would make the Bat work like Pegasus. :-) could you for example still have different mail-retrieval settings or have the accounts effectively become one-and-the-same? Why should they? Thanks, very good idea. Jos Flachs Bangkok, Thailand Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: An Idea.
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Om 3:35 op donderdag 27 juni 2002, Jos Flachs: could you for example still have different mail-retrieval settings or have the accounts effectively become one-and-the-same? Why should they? because settings are held in files with a fixed name, perhaps. but i dunno fersure, so i asked. M. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 6.5.8ckt7 iQA/AwUBPRpfUEtQMadp+KslEQImlQCg114EtAxzb3MyYkASUZjgXL2P1XQAn13a gUpQwTritgONhIDW53g30Pja =yyal -END PGP SIGNATURE- Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Mailinglists that don't set reply-to
El miércoles 26 de junio de 2002, 20.12, Maurice Snellen decía: MS Is there a way to fix this? (short of asking them to add the reply-to MS which they probably won't do because I guess they're the ppl who are MS fans of that well-known article that argues that adding/modifying the MS reply-to in list-messages is 'evil') what article are you talking about? -- Ricardo M. Reyes | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (Mar del Plata - Argentina) | Usando The Bat! 1.60c Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Account log
Hello Roelof, Wednesday, June 26, 2002, 7:59:05 PM, you wrote: RO Hallo Adam, A Another dumb question here. I look at my account log and count 64 A messages. And it says FETCH - connection finished - 84 messages A received RO Paste your log in a message, then we'll be able to say something, but RO without a log I don't know. Well there are exactly 64 messages looking just like this. 6/26/2002, 19:29:56: FETCH - received message from postmaster@... (1698 bytes) Nothing is different but the addresses. RO Time to go to bed. The alarm will go off at six. :-( Night! -- Best regards, Adam Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hi John, On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, at 09:13:04 [GMT +1000] (which was 11:13 a.m. here in Eastbourne, N.Z.) you wrote: JP Do you have to write outgoing messages in this software in order to get it to JP work? No TB just works as normal but outward mail goes via Postcast Server, a small adjustment in |Account Properties |Transport |Send Mail| just enter the host name in my case the computer name. Also for some reason that I don't understand spam has been reduced to zero! -- Regards, Chris Put knot yore trust inn spel chequers Using The Bat! 1.60q E-Mail System with Windows XP Pro. Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: New User Questions
Hi Gary, On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 21:40:04 -0500, you wrote: Questions: The FAQ page is full of javascript errors that prevent it from displaying in both Netscape and IE on my machine. I wrote to report this at the support address but they just seem to ignore any questions. Is there something I need to do to be able to view the FAQ? It would be nice for new users. I believe the FAQ is run by one of the moderators on this list, and not by RitLabs themselves... Maybe Marck can answer that one ;) There seem to be paragraph and block formatting functions, but can't figure out how to do simple formatting like bolding/highlighting text. Is a local font change possible? Am I missing something? Bold as in the person you're sending it to sees bold? That is HTML formating, and TB doesn't send in html (yet). If you mean locally, there is an option under Options - Editor Preferences I think where you can change your locally viewed windows, but this has no affect on the recipient of the email. The message banner is adequate when there is one message, but when there are many it essentially worthless, except as an alert. It would be much nicer to have it open a new-mail list where I could chose what I want to read and mark other messages as Read or Deferred. I know this banner is sorta a trademark, but are there any plans to make it useful too? Next time you double click to bring up a message, go to View - Message list (I think that's the option). It'll then display all the unread messages that are being shown in the ticker. Also, the silly banner won't go away unless I read all the messages. Isn't there some way to dismiss it? It seems like the only choices here are to have NO ALERTING or to have NUISSANCE ALERTING. Is there some work around? You can set a timer on the message ticker so it goes away after a certain amount of time. With the timer up, I think you can right click on it, and there are a set of properties you can modify. Hope these help a little. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re[2]: Mail Ticker properties
On Wednesday, June 26, 2002, Jason Diamond wrote in mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: JD I set an age limit on the MailTicker in the hopes that it would JD dismiss itself after that time if no more new messages came in but JD it just sits there eating up all my real estate! Hmmm... I don't have that problem. I have my mail ticker set to wait for two minutes and then to be on for two minutes (and it's not enabled for all folders). When the time is up, or if I've read the messages before the time passes, the ticker disappears. -- JN Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hi Mike, On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 22:07:49 -0500, you wrote: My colleague was told by her ISP that it was because they blacklisted certain domains. Since I have my own domain (harlos.net), I had a hard time understanding why I would be included with the likes of Hotmail etc. I don't do any spamming or mass mailings. If the mail server that is reporting to be from your domain is on the black list, then they'll probably ignore you. Or if you host your domain from a DSL/Dialup connection for example, you may find that you have been caught in a block that matches the whole section. Or even if you are sending mail from a blacklisted block, and not necessarily have anything to do with your domain [harlos.net]. I phoned their tech support, and was told that they block emails that are sent via a relay (?SMTP relay). I'm afraid that my technical knowledge does not enable me to fully understand or explain this. An open relay (which is what they are often referring to) is a poorly configured mail server that allows anbody the ability to send mail via it, even people that are not supposed to. These often get exploited for the pure and simple use of spam. Most of the time, they rely on external sources to do the work, they just do a lookup on it (see http://www.ordb.org or http://mail-abuse.org). I use the SMTP server at my service provider, ATT Canada: outbox.attcanada.ca Maybe you might want to take a look http://www.ordb.org and do a lookup on there, see if it's listed. If so, you may want to contact your ISP, and notify them, although ordb.org does notify the poorly configured server's admin to let them know of the issue. I suppose that because my email address [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not match my ISP's domain, it is considered to be relayed? I highly doubt they'd do that, otherwise a lot of mail aliases would never work. Take for example your ISP... I'm sure they run several other domains on the same servers. If random ISPs decided to start blocking mail because the sending name doesn't match the real name from what it's being sent from... then a lot of mail would be rejected. You also get the issue as well with major companies such as uu.net who provide line/server services to companies who then sell on their services to end users. All the uu.net dialup accounts have some location.some ip.uu.net or in that kind of format. For any mail to work in the above case, you'd have to have a uu.net email address, which is not the case, the sub-provider often issues one under their domain. In any case, that was their explanation... I didn't suspect that it was a TB! issue. I don't personally think it is a TB issue itself... more of an issue with the ISP setup. I find it unusual to believe that a client would drop a connection to just one ISP... but it does appear the the afflicted ISP is doing some form of filtering, and dropping the X-Mailer that matches TB!. What really needs to happen, is some direct contact with the actual people that run the server, and not some tech support representative. In most ISP cases, the tech support representative doesn't have that kind of information. -- Jonathan Angliss ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Can Not Send Mail
Hello Jonathan, On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 16:20:28 -0500 GMT (27/06/02, 04:20 +0700 GMT), Jonathan Angliss wrote: JA 250 8BITMIME Another idea: the rejected messages seemed to have been 7-bit encoded. Maybe there is a clue? -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Durch einen Lichtstrahl drangen in der Nacht zum Freitag unbekannte Taeter in den Supermarkt ein. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60q under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: Filters
Hello Adam, On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 19:08:43 -0230 GMT (27/06/02, 04:38 +0700 GMT), Adam wrote: A Are Outgoing filters very commonly used? Do people often have a A number of folders and not send to sent-mail? Speaking for myself, I want to keep conversations together. So, if I have a regular email contact with a friend, or a group of friends, I create a folder for him or the group. For example, I also have one folder for Bat People into which I filter conversations with List members that I have PM conversations with. Into this folder I filter all incoming and all outgoing messages. Apart from this helping me to keep the conversations in order, it also allows me to view threads, as an additional bonus. -- Cheers, Thomas. Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste. Unsere Autos prallten genau in dem Augenblick zusammen, als sie sich begegneten. Message reply created with The Bat! 1.60q under Chinese Windows 98 4.10 Build A using an AMD Athlon K7 1.2GHz, 128MB RAM Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
Re: An Idea.
Hello, if you have two accounts, yet in the preferences you point them to have the same home-directory (under filesdirectories), what consequences would that have? you should test if The Bat doesn't destroy your mail database when you fetch you mail from several servers at the same time. When there are two threads writing into the same file and those aren't aware of this you can lose and corrupt you data. could you for example still have different mail-retrieval settings or have the accounts effectively become one-and-the-same? I don't think so because The Bat will save these settings in the same directory into the same files. -- Regards, Patrick Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ: http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/
