Re: Post-meeting Mail

[Scott Evans]

On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 19:57 -0800, Tom Sparks wrote:

> --- On Sat, 18/12/10, Michael Chesterton  wrote:
> > Ryan Macnish wrote:
> > > Ok, so i will leave the issue of the IRC structure
> > alone, its clear
> > > that some of the loco veterans dont want change, even
> > for the benefit
> > > of the loco. But also if i bring it up again i may get
> > kicked from the
> > > loco.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > So now we have that sorted, i am agreeing not to bring
> > up any more
> > > issues about the loco that need discussing, because
> > its evident that
> > > some people in the loco are disturbed by this. So you
> > will hear no
> > > more complaints nor see any more action from me on
> > this front.
> > 
> > I think the above email is a big part in why the team lost
> > status, and
> > it has set back the reinstate a long time. And it's not
> > nisshh's fault,
> > not one bit.
> > 
> > > As for the social stuff, if everyone just announces
> > meetings and
> > > events on the social platform of their choice (be that
> > facebook,
> > > identica, diaspora or whatever) then people will
> > re-tweet it and know
> > > about it, so we may get more activity and
> > participation. Even things
> > > like Urban Terror and stuff should be announced.
> > 
> > This is a great idea, it will attract more people, more
> > energy, create
> > more events, except the new people will hit the same wall
> > nisshh hit and
> > nothing will change.
> > 
> > I would care except there are so many other really fun and
> > vibrant open
> > source related groups in Sydney (where I live) that aren't
> > affiliated
> > with a company. I believe other states are in a similar
> > position, or
> > could be soon.
> 
> the more I read about the ubuntu-au community going downhill (losing of our 
> offical loco status) , the more I feel some people may not be following the 
> Ubuntu Code of Conduct
> 
> witch is sad to say :(
> 
> tom
> 
> 
>   
> 


No I disagree, it just seem that the status quot just isn't prepared to
listen to any suggestions to actually make any headway. So since the
LoCo loosing it's official status there hasn't been any progress for it
to even be considered. Sadly it's my opinion that it should just be left
as a dead resource until the peeps who believe they know better than all
look back an see why they have no LoCo, I mean OK I was keen to get the
meetings going initially, and I got some heavy resistance when I dare
suggest that a meeting be called on a Friday night (with relatively
short notice) and to the fact that I approached the Ubuntu-LoCo Council
to share my thoughts on the situation at that time, to be essentially be
branded a traitor for doing so. Sadly for me the Ubuntu Australian Loco
is truly (to my mind) dead and not worth the effort to bother to
reinstate. I've also (mostly) discontinued using Ubuntu in favour to
Debian, so my efforts are being focused their where there isn't the
politics involved and I'm free to contribute without the need to be
approved by the Elite Club of Membership!

I'm not intending to flame anyone here these are just my opinions on the
matter, everyone is allowed to share their thoughts just as I have...

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Re: Mounting Floppies

[Scott Evans]

Just check to see if you have the following,

ls /media 
cdrom cdrom0 floppy floppy0 

The following are symlinks, cdrom & floppy, they just point to the directories 
ending in 0.

If there isn't a floppy/floppy0 just create them (as superuser) then see if you 
can mount the floppy. My desktop is floppy(less!) So I'm not 100% sure if this 
will fix the problem. My server was installed using ubuntu server edition 
(8.10) and these directories/symlink were created on install.   

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Re: Ubuntu MID (Mobile Internet Device) Remix - Does anyone know what happened?

[Scott Evans]

Not sure of that model phone, but if it uses Android as its default OS then you 
would best sticking with Android ;-)

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Re: ubuntu 10.04 + hp photosmart c4280 all in one

[Scott Evans]

On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 10:02 +1000, James Takac wrote:
> Hi Guys
> 
> I've installed 10.04 on a friends pc and the having probs getting the printer 
> setup. It happens I have the same printer working fine on 8.04 on one of my 
> systems/ I do have 10.04 on other systems and haven't tried them yet. I've 
> installed the latest HPLIP from hp and when I run the hp-setup there's no 
> equivalent PPD for the hp photosmart c4280. I tried searching for it and no 
> luck so far. Anyone else got this printer working under 10.04?
> 
> James
> 

Hi James...

I have a HP c4480, I believe this is the model above from the one you
have (or its replacement) I have no issues using any of the functions.

Can you try 2 things...

1. open your web browser and type in 'localhost:631' this is the CUPS
interface and see if your printer is listed there and that its on line
etc...

2. if their are multiple entries for the printer remove them all and
then plug it in again to see if that may remedy the situation.

HP printers are generally hassle free under Linux ;-)

Although I'm on Debian these days I had both my HP printers running
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Re: ubuntu load problems (forwarded to ubuntu-au)

[Scott Evans]

On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 10:33 +1000, phil lock wrote:
> Hi Scott, I am presuming that you will assist me with some insights
> into my problems - there does not appear to be a mainland person
> available for my region but as Tassie is only a stone's throw ( little
> stone and big arm) from Melbourne. (If you are not the correct person
> could you do me a favour please and send it to the appropriate person
> and cc to me.)
> 
>  
> 
> I am trying to load ubuntu on two different machines without success.
> 
> Dealing with my 64 bit machine (xp 64 pro) I attempt o load via wubi
> or normal load and get to the point where I am asked if I wish to
> reboot now or later. When I do either reboot ubuntu does not appear as
> part of the load option during start-up. So I don't know what is
> happening there except that it may be a 64 bit quirk.
> 
>  
> 
> The other machine I have tried to load to is a 32 bit machine running
> xp home edition - the load appear to be pretty close to completion
> before I get and cd/dvd error telling me that there is a problem with
> the disk. Who knows? It seems to be ok  when it was built via Nero.
> 
>  
> 
> I guess my questions to you are:
> 
>  
> 
> Do I have to partition drives?
> 
> If I do can I use any drive or must it be the c drive? presents
> problems if this is the case as I have a ton of spare space another
> drives but not so much on my c drive.
> 
> I have looked at the log of the load (wubi .log) and I see no errors
> on the 64 machine but I do so errors on the 32 bit machine.
> 
>  
> 
> So to keep it simple can we just deal with the easiest one for now.
> 
> Thanks in anticipation.
> 
>  
> 
> Phil
> 
> ps I tried start a login session via the ubuntu site but when I rec'd
> the email return post I was unable to login as my machine said that it
> was an invalid link.
> 
> Doh! bit frustrating as I would like to get Linux on one of these
> boxes and preferably the 64 bit machine.
> 
> pps I have attached the log in case it gives any insights
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> 
>  
> 
> Phil
> 
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -


I'm forwarding this message to the ubuntu-au mailing list as I have no
experience with using wubi.

Please note: Phil, to send to the mailing list you do need to subscribe
or your message will will be held for moderator intervention!

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Re: [liveCD] laptop external screen only

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There may also be a BIOS setting to do this as well (mainly in older
notebooks) or try the function key for toggling the display, my Eee has
this capability so that you sent the video out is either to the internal
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Re: HOW TO: Netcomm NB9WMAXX and Firewall

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The main thing is that unless you need ANY ports open on your
modem/router then you are fin behind the NAT you only expose yourself if
you are running a service that requires something/someone to connect to
it. Also unless you are on a fixed IP from your ISP, then you can always
randomly switch your modem/router off/on and you would most likely be
reassigned a new IP.
 
and likewise about port scans, I'm not interested in scanning your
system, but I will if it would make you feel a little more comfortable
(using Nessus) if you do then just shoot me a PM (I'm expecting you to
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Re: Compulsory Computer protection

[Scott Evans]

On Tue, 2010-06-22 at 17:11 -0700, Tom Sparks wrote:
> "Australians could be forced to install anti-virus protection on their
> computers and have their access to the internet shut down if they did
> not remove software infections, under a proposed crackdown on cyber
> crime."
> 
> http://www.canberratimes.com.au/news/local/news/general/compulsory-computer-protection-mooted/1865797.aspx?storypage=1
> 
> Whats you option? 

Simple just install clamav and then there can be no claim that you don't
have an anti-virus component! but in all seriousness if the Government
wants to treat us like kindergarten kiddies then we need to think
seriously at the next election ... I don't see this bearing fruit, it
appears (to me) just to be a simple scare tactic ... George W has to be
the best person to have pulled of the fake fear policy along with John
Howard... Now Kevin wants a try ... FAIL!

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Re: ubuntu for Internet cafe

[Scott Evans]

NOTE TO SELF: click reply to all!

err OK I have a link here that talks about 

http://www.category5.tv/content/view/512/11/

Viewer Question:  My boss would like to setup some workstations in the
highschool computer lab with Ubuntu Linux.  I'd like to make it so the
students cannot change system settings.  How can I do this? 
Using Pessulus to setup a kiosk on Ubuntu Linux.

So sorry I can't recall what time in the episode it talks about this...
But I hope this helps in some way 


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Re: about "bouncing"

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Make sure that you have subscribed to the ubuntu-au mailing list and not
the google group, also check the email address you had subscribed with
as this is the only email address you can post with ... 

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Wiki structure voting link

[Scott Evans]

Ok as a result of the last IRC meeting it was decided to hold a poll to
establish what format the wiki should take.

http://www.doodle.com/thd4z323shrn36zp

The above link is where this vote will take place!

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IRC Meeting tonight 9PM AEST

[Scott Evans]

Just a reminder is all ... ;-) 

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Re: Problems after last kernel update

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To reset the VirtualBox kernel modules you simply need to (after update
of kernel or VB version) ... in a terminal,

sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup

I have noticed that the DKMS package didn't auto update the kernel
modules on update to 3.2 possibly a bug (not sure) on my system here a
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Re: irc meeting

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I've updated the wiki to reflect the 8th ;)

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Re: irc meeting

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That's a clerical error on my behalf!

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Re: Ubuntu-AU Wiki Update

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Just on a separate note, the current ubuntu-au logo should we update or
stay with what is current? 

I think stay with the current, but maybe alter to the new colour schema?

thoughts?

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re: transfer of Gramps in Hardy Heron to Lucid Lynx

[Scott Evans]

Hi...

My wife uses Gramps so I have a little knowledge that may shed some light
on your situation. Ok all your Gramps data is stored in a directory in
your home directory called .gramps Now notice the . prior to the name,
this means this is a hidden directory. So I'm hoping that when you did
your backup, you included this directory! So if you did, then once you
have Gramps installed you can then copy that hidden directory into your
home directory. You will get a prompt to update the database for each
family tree you have.

I hope that this helps out...

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Re: 701SD wireless

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The Realtek is the onboard LAN ;-)

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Re: 701SD wireless

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Can we just back track a little...

When the Eee PC is powered up is the blue LED active? if not then the
wireless card has been disabled with the "FN + F2" key combination. Also
as previously mentioned, double check the BIOS to ensure that the
wireless is enabled (default is not enabled)

As for the make of the chip for the wireless is an Atheros type.   I
have 2 Eee 701SD here, both using Lucid netbook edition and the wireless
is working just fine!

I too have an old WiFi gateway that only uses 40bit WEP (used with MAC
filtering as well) so maybe also check (or reset) the password in your
WiFi gateway (remember to update password in all other items that use
the gateway!)

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Re: Formal v Informal structure

[Scott Evans]

On Wed, 2010-05-19 at 12:04 +1000, Paul Gear wrote:

> On 19/05/10 11:11, Cary Bielenberg wrote:
> > Ok just got off my backside&  had a look&  on average the teams are 1 
> > owner&  between 2&  6 admins depending on the country. Interestingly the US 
> > has state based loco's. I guess we are way too small for that. As Andrew 
> > stated there is 2 models for this&  we will have to decide what 
> > model/structure we take.
> >
> 
> I've been thinking about the applicability of state-based LoCos as 
> well.  Assuming even population spread between states, and an identical 
> per-capita take-up of Ubuntu between .au and .us (both highly flawed 
> assumptions), .us has 309 million persons (very rough figure from 
> Wikipedia) in 50 states, or approximately one LoCo per 6,180,000 
> persons.  A per-state LoCo would give .au (22 million persons in 8 
> states - we'll count ACT & NT as states), or approximately one LoCo per 
> 2,750,000 persons.  This is not really that different, and i wonder 
> whether it wouldn't be more practical in terms of co-ordination and the 
> like.
> 
> Paul
> 


It's a bit of a catch 22 either way, I had thought along similar lines
but I think there would be a bit of a struggle to get sufficient numbers
to make it work and remain working beyond initial set up

However I still believe that there should be a structure of sorts, but
the pros & cons for me presently have me a bit muffed at it all and so
while I'm thinking like this I'll most likely be a fence sitter (no
helpful I know!) But lets also face it, the US wouldn't have it any
other way now would they! (in jest)

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Re: Logs for IRC meeting 17-05-2010

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The Mootbot logged the IRC nicks that made comments, so if you were
there, and you didn't say anything then that's why your nick isn't in
the list. This of course doesn't mean you weren't there!

I hope that clears up a little confusion there, there was over 50 people
in the ubuntu-au channel last night, this is a lot more than I've seen
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Logs for IRC meeting 17-05-2010

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Hello fellow ubuntu-au members...

here is the url for the meeting held ...

http://www.novarata.net/mootbot/ubuntu-au.20100517_0600.html

I was attempting to keep things into subject titles, this I thought to
be the best way to try to keep things to a format!

Please lets remember that there is now some work to do, and we do need
to organise the next meeting time. This will of course be on a Tuesday!

Thanks to all that attended

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Re: A plea for civility

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On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 14:19 +1000, Paul Gear wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> I've been reading most of the discussion over the last few days with a
> heavy heart.  What we're doing at the moment is proving that the LoCo
> council were right to deny us re-approval.
> 
> I beg everyone who has posted over the last week to make a concerted
> effort:
>   * to see the best in other people
>   * NOT to be offended when others don't see the best in you
>   * to make suggestions that are reasonable
>   * NOT to be offended when others don't see your suggestions as
> reasonable
>   * to do things which bring our community together
>   * NOT to call attention to those actions which pull our
> community apart
>   * to suggest good ideas and make positive steps to see them
> become reality
>   * to applaud and congratulate others when they have good ideas
>   * NOT to seek credit or desire applause for your own good ideas
>   * to re-read the Ubuntu Code of Conduct
> (http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct) and think about how
> you can better live up to it
>   * NOT to point out (or even notice) when others are not meeting
> the code of conduct
>   * to be patient with slow, incremental progress
>   * to disagree with others only where absolutely necessary, and
> do it off-list, and respectfully
> Perhaps a way to summarise all of the above would be:
>  1. Do the right thing
>  2. Reward those who do the right thing with your attentiveness
> and support
>  3. Ignore those who are doing the wrong thing
> There won't be progress towards re-approval without everyone putting
> their hurt feelings and egos in the back seat for the good of the
> community.
> 
> Regards,
> Paul
> 


It is for this exact reason I've kept quite today! firstly, making sure
that what I felt is correct and the best approach, clearly some disagree
with me, I did expect this as after all we are all Human and we do think
differently! So I'm a sponge for information and I've had a few emails
directed at me offering their thoughts/advice towards my conduct over
the last few days. I'm not aiming for an "ego trip" or the keys to the
asylum! I just want something to start working with, So I'd like the IRC
meeting to be treated as a "Brainstorm" not a this is what "I" want
thing. We need to establish the goals of what/who we are to be before we
can decide how take on the task.

I totally agree that /Ego's/Anger/Whatever/ have no future place in this
type of discussion...  

As I used to say to the people I managed there's no I in TEAM ;)

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Re: Results of IRC Meeting Poll

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On Sun, 2010-05-16 at 00:04 +1000, Dave Hall wrote:
> I would suggest that we stick to the regular meeting cycle as proposed
> by Peter and in the intervening 3 weeks or so we try to develop some
> consensus around the issues, rather rush a meeting so issues can be
> railroaded. 

This my point ...  a person (me) decides to use initiative and I get
stomped on for trying!

So as far as I'm concerned the meeting will go ahead as published...

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Re: Getting reapproved

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Well in effect I believe that all positions held should be up for
discussion/vote... Others may disagree, but I believe its the only way
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Results of IRC Meeting Poll

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Hi...

OK the result of the poll held for what night/time would suite most has
now ended, the results is...

== AustralianTeam Meeting DATE: 17th May 2010, 21:00 EST / 11:00 UTC ==

irc.freenode.com  #ubuntu-au

Please review the proposed agenda at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Meetings and add anything you
feel should be discussed.

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Re: Update manager oddness

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Have you by chance added any PPA's from LaunchPad and not imported their
PGP keys? or from any other source? 


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Re: Do you want to see an official Australian Ubuntu LoCo?

[Scott Evans]

-Original Message-

That question should be directed at those who undermined the
reapproval.  

The decent and honest thing to do would have been to CCed the list their
correspondence with the LoCo council, just as Melissa did.  I have real
concerns about working with people who can't be up front and honest.

Cheers

Dave

In what way did people undermine anything? nothing was happening! Be
honest, nothing has happened within ubuntu-au since I've been involved
(2008) So I can't see how some that wanted to try to change, can be
blamed for wanting to "do" something...  After all were we not told that
if you wanted to do something, just do it. Now you can't have it both
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Re: Meting for Friday 21 May 2010 20:00 EST (10:00 UTC)

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UPDATE:  poll for meeting time/date here...
http://www.doodle.com/8nw74wwnrukyv9gn
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Meting for Friday 21 May 2010 20:00 EST (10:00 UTC)

[Scott Evans]

I want to see if we can rebuild...

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/Meetings

add any further item that you feel would be of worthy discussion

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Re: Do you want to see an official Australian Ubuntu LoCo?

[Scott Evans]

-Original Message-
From: Lisa Milne 
To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Do you want to see an official Australian Ubuntu LoCo?
Date: Fri, 14 May 2010 14:03:25 +1000

Do you want to see an official Australian Ubuntu LoCo?

yes or no? 

Well YES! :-)

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Re: Lets revise and regroup

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> I believe you are flogging a dead horse. 

Well yes I may be, but I still wish to try...

> A while ago now, I first heard the phrase "the vocal minority", I
> thought it was pretty clever at the time. Now it gets used whenever a
> groups leadership is challenged. You see, apparently ubuntu-au locos
> downfall wasn't the responsibility of the leadership, but the fault of
> the vocal minority. But you won't find that said anywhere logged.

Well this is possible however I feel that the for a group to exist there
needs to be healthy discussion, this has been lacking within the -au
team for some time. As was clearly the case with Andrew"s proposal, some
were very quick to criticise but not put up an alternative to discuss,
instead chose to simply attempt to make the whole debate a slanging
match. This is why I believe the whole process broke down. 

> If you speak up, you are labeled a vocal minority, a trouble maker,
> someone to watch out for, a kook.

Well I have been called a lot worse over the years! ;-)

> It's coded, been down for years, let it rest in peace. 

No lets attempt to make something worthy of it so the previous work has
essentially not all been for nothing.

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Lets revise and regroup

[Scott Evans]

Ok as most of you would be aware the current status of the ubuntu-au
loco. As a result of this news there has been some pointers on how to
path the way forward to regain the loco status. This gives us the
opportunity to review the current plan of how the loco was being run to
now how it will be run in the future.

At this point I ask for all ego's and anger to be left at the door, if
you feel that you can't do this then maybe you need to review your
status within the loco group as a whole, after all we all need to get
along to move forward. The last round of debate about how a potential
structure could be implemented ended in a way that simply proved (to me)
that the current people in charge of the loco were not up for new
suggestions or change. This is the first failing of the loco, we have to
evolve as the time changes or you end up with a stale non-motivated
group.

So where to go from here ?

Clearly there has been little change in the organisational structure
since the loco was first approved. This needs to change and I believe
that all rolls should be on a rotational basis, meaning that there
should be equal opportunity for all to have a turn. So what are the
current rolls that people have assigned to them? how active are they in
this roll?/how long have they had this roll?

I should state at this point I believe that all positions should be
declared open!

The rotational system that I'm suggesting should last for a period of 1
year (can be reviewed if this doesn't work) and that all that have
singed the ubuntu CoC are entitled to participate. Should one person not
have ubuntu membership (will be required for the loco contact) then as a
group we should work together to help that person gain it.

Essentially we need to work as a team not as individuals...

So can we expand on this plan and see where it can take us? all debate
is welcome ;-)

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Re: less talk more action

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On Tue, 2010-04-13 at 23:15 +1000, Ross Willman wrote:
> Has anyone making noise about this actually been in the
> community for more than a year?

Umm... yes!

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Re: less talk more action

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Hi to all...

Another thing that may help is to make the "official" (mailman) list
more official looking! as...

You may subscribe to the ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com mailing list and
view its archives here.

This doesn't stand out and say "here  I am cometh look at me!" instead
there is more emphasis on the alternate lists...

This is cosmetic I know, but I've yet to come up with a more prettier
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Google ubuntu-au list

[Scott Evans]

I realise that it would upset a few people but I'd discourage the use of
this Google group and only direct traffic to the official mailing list
(hosted by Canonical)

From a moderator point of view the mailman list is the only true clean
feed you will get!

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Re: LEADERSHIP and a ROADMAP

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Lets take this from another view point...

lets say that tragically (fictional only please!) Melissa falls of the
face of the earth, who would know how to continue in the Loco contact
role?

This is a major flaw in most organisations, they don't contend for the
future. We are not immortal, and people come and go...

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Re: LEADERSHIP and a ROADMAP

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Sorry for the double post... the first attempt was cut off :(
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Re: LEADERSHIP and a ROADMAP

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On Mon, 2010-04-12 at 20:58 +1000, Scott Evans wrote:

> My Random Ramblings... 
> 
> On Sun, 2010-04-11 at 19:43 -0700, AndrewG wrote: 
> 
> > LEADERSHIP and a ROADMAP
> > 
> > Prologue: 25th March, Melissa Draper (our team contact) was sent an
> > email outlining some of the following in detail.  I am still awaiting
> > a reply (maybe she is on holidays), thus my reason for a public post
> > to the Ubuntu-au community. (I wish that she had replied so we could
> > have made a joint post)
> > 
> 
> Ok firstly this is a discussion not a session to prove popularity or
> to attack "anyone" at a personal level, Remember we are all friends
> here not enemies! (leave any egos at the door please) 
> 
> > 
> > LEADERSHIP: From the correspondence that I have had with Melissa, she
> > informs me that
> > "The contact is not the dog's body nor is it the mastermind."
> > Further, "I'm responsible for allocating privileges as allowed to us
> > by Canonical. I'm the team /contact/. I'm the person who interfaces
> > between Canonical and the team members."
> > 
> > So my conclusion is that the 'Team Contact' is NOT the team leader
> > (contrary to popular belief), but a 'Conduit' between Canonical, the
> > Community Council and the Ubuntu-au community. (and also that the Team
> > leader should convey the sentiment of the ubuntu-au community)
> > 
> 
> Ok so my interpretation of the ubuntu LoCo leader was some what
> different... 
> 
> > Thus, Ubuntu-au is a collection of people with no leadership, a group
> > of individuals trying to further the goals set down in the wiki page
> > 'The Australian team focuses on distributing, advertising and
> > demonstrating Ubuntu within Australia'
> > 
> 
> Sadly I feel that the current "structure" doesn't actually do much for
> promoting ubuntu as a whole... 
> 
> > I also asked Melissa the following
> > "What is your vision ?"
> > Her reply
> > "My vision is for a team that is constructive and contains people who
> > think up initiatives or support others rather than waiting for
> > orders."
> 
> Err... Ok but lately I feel that some have put forward suggestions and
> have been met with great resistance to "change" 
> 
> > My reply
> > "How do we encourage & support constructive people?
> > Some people need to be given guidance, in my experience there are
> > three types of people.
> > 1.  Leaders:  Those that inspire others to do great things
> > 2.  Followers: Those that need inspiration to do great things.
> > 3.  Others:  They just don't give a damn about doing great things."
> > 
> 
> Agree totally with the above ... now just decide what roll you are
> comfortable with and don't be threatened by those that choose option
> 1 
> 
> > 
> > On March 8,9 & 11, there was some very robust threads on this mailing
> > list about Ubuntu-au Governance, Re-approval and the Website.
> > Now I'm not sure that these discussions achieved much as it has been
> > over one month and it seams that these issues remain unresolved.
> > 
> > I think I can see why this is the case.
> > 
> > 1.  There seams to be a reluctance to change the status-quo.
> > 2.  There is a fear about 'loss of control'.
> > 3.  There is no clear process to bring about change to the Ubuntu-au
> > community.
> > 4.  There is no 'leadership' to enable change to be achieved.
> > 
> 
> Sadly this seems to be the norm with discussion. It all starts out
> well intended but then due to the "resistance" mentioned earlier it is
> near impossible to achieve. 
> 
> > In summary: 'Nobody is responsible for everything' or 'Everybody is
> > responsible for Everything' or 'Nobody is responsible for Nothing'
> > 
> > "Change is the law of life and those who look only to the past or
> > present are certain to miss the future."
> > —John F. Kennedy
> 
> Umm... didn't he get a bullet in the head for having some rather
> radical idea's ?  (I'm trying to make light of a bad situation
> there!) 
> 
> > 
> > BIG PICTURE:
> > Currently there is a discussion with the Community Council
> > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+bug/392986
> > It talks about 'LoCo's are not "Lo" Enough' (Mark Shuttleworth has
> > even made comment)
> > and the concept of:
> > ReCo

Re: LEADERSHIP and a ROADMAP

[Scott Evans]

k then (2006) that it would grow beyond what the LoCo
was at that time (I can't answer this because I wasn't an active member
of the ubuntu-au community then) and to allow future broadening to "all"
areas within the greater AU population? The way it feel to me is "no"
but I could be wrong in saying this, but that is how I have felt when
engaging in discussion.

> The Ubuntu-au community is clearly a 'CoCo' not a 'LoCo' as we are
> seperated by large distances, in cities and regions.
> 
> If we accept the premise that the ubuntu-au community is made up of
> smaller 'LoCo' around the country.
> I.E.  Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Perth, Hobart
> 
> ***
> PROPOSAL:  I would propose that an "Australian Community Council"(ACC)
> be created. (A Trial for 18 months)
> Its members would be 1. Team-Contact 2. Web-master 3. 'LoCo'
> representative(s) (7+-2 people total)
> ***
> (See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-au/council/structure for a summary
> of models)
> (See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-au/council/structure-detailed for
> a detailed model of the ACC)
> (These models have been created in collaboration, and are open to
> further modification)
> 

I don't see there being anything lost by not trying this suggestion, if
it doesn't work then simply revert back to the current system. Presently
the ubuntu-au LoCo has really not done much in the way of promotion or
for that matter purely existing on a name sake, a name doesn't mean
activity!

> The role of the ACC, is really one of "Advisory, Support &
> Consultation", as the "Team contact" will still retain the role &
> privileges.
> 
> ADVANTAGES
> 1.  It gives the community some ownership in the process of running
> the Ubuntu-au.
> 2.  It will bring forward 'leaders', which could be potential
> successors for the 'Team contact'
> 3.  Spreading the load of leadership. (with 9 potential persons)
> 4.  An open transparent process.
> 5.  Authority to drive discussion and implementation.
> 6.  The decision making process, on a national level is simplified, it
> is easier to make decisions with 9 (potentially) than it is with 40 in
> an IRC meeting.
> 7.  An identifiable 'Contact' person for each City/Region.
> There are many Teams in the wider Ubuntu community, that utilise a
> council to share the leadership role eg. Georgia & Ohio
> 
> DISADVANTAGES
> 1.  Elections.
> 2.  Structured.
> 3.  A Committee.
> (These are not really disadvantages, but necessary evils to achieve
> the outcomes of the ADVANTAGES)
> 

I think that those that will be in opposition to this structure just
simply don't want any politics to come between them and their passion
for ubuntu! but then as it stands presently there is no "structure" and
if you do speak out you get squashed for wanting to think outside of the
circle.

> 
> 
> ROADMAP:  Where do we go from here?
> 
> I guess that I am asking YOU the community to see if YOU are in favour
> of an 'Australian Community Council'?
> 
> If this thread gets a favourable response, then the next thing to do
> would be to call a poll and have the 'PROPOSAL' passed.
> Then we could call for each City/Region to elect a representative to
> the ACC.
> 
> One response to this post could be:  'This is all great in theory, but
> we don't have enough people to create an ACC.'
> My response would be: 'Let's ask for interested persons to come
> forward and nominate' (I know of three people that would be
> interested)
> 
> Finally, unless we have a 'Structure & Process' in place to create a
> leadership team nobody will come forward.
> The status-quo cannot continue and to move forward a leadership team
> is required to motivate the community to do great things.
> 

Again I think it's worth trying, IMHO nothing is lost by not.

> RE-APPROVAL:
> As our re-approval approaches, obviously my 'PROPOSAL' for the
> creation of the ACC cannot be implemented. (if the community agrees)
> We can say to the Ubuntu Community Council, "We are in the process of
> creating an Australian Community Council, from our Regions/Cities" our
> chances of re-approval will be greatly improved.
> 
> 
> ***
> Are YOU in favour of an 'Australian Community Council'?
> ***
> Those of you who want change, now is the time to speak-up.
> 

I think the AU LoCo re-aproval has to take its course (?) and then as an
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Re: LEADERSHIP and a ROADMAP

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A very well presented post.. I will contribute to this one I have read
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Re: ubuntu-au Digest, Vol 50, Issue 6

[Scott Evans]

On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 03:12 -0700, AndrewG wrote:
> Hi Colin,
> 
>I don't know about what the Australian community thinks of this.
>I would tread very carefully when installing codecs like 'Mint'
> does, is a 'grey' legal area from my research.
>One of the reasons that Ubuntu sells "fluendo" at their store.
> 
>What does everybody else think ?
> 
> 
> Andew G. 

Not sure just how the Mint peoples really get around the patent thing,
unless they are purely waiting to be prosecuted and resolve it from
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Re: Low-end iSCSI NAS

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Although not strictly on the topic that was originally posted...

Another software option could be unRAID from Lime Tech

http://www.lime-technology.com/

There is a free version that you can use (allows 3 drives) that you can
have a play with to see if it will suit your needs then possibly (if
needed) update to other versions provided. (No I'm not a representative
for Lime Tech)

Its a Slax variation of Linux that the default NAS protocol is to use
samba file sharing (designed to work fairly seamlessly with windows
clients)

So maybe another option to consider...

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Re: Ubuntu-AU Digest

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Well IMHO all this could be much easier sorted if the default behaviour
of the mailing list was set-up to reply to the list instead of the
individual. This is why most simply use reply-to-all option because the
action of reply goes direct to the poster thus then whatever one has to
say is only seen by the originator of a thread.  Why mailman was set-up
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Re: Planet AU

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On Sun, 2010-03-21 at 16:57 +0930, Ryan Macnish wrote:

> hey everyone,
> 
> i just found out about our teams planet, are there any requirements to
> get my blog aggregated to the planet apart from being a team member
> and having an ubuntu related blog?
> 
> Ryan Macnish
> freakaboutlinux.wordpress.com
> 
> 
> __
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Hi... you can refer to Melissa post for more details...
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Re: Is there a release party planed for Tassie? Mk2

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No worries, I'll have a chat to the wife and we will come up with
something ;)

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Re: Is there a release party planed for Tassie? Mk2

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On Sat, 2010-03-20 at 09:22 +1000, Cary Bielenberg wrote:

> This time I hit tab instead of enter! 
> I'm in Hobart on the weekend of the 2nd of May & wondering if you Tassie guys 
> & girls are having a release party?
> 
> Cheers Cary


Sure would be nice... any preference to a possible venue? 

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Re: Meeting

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On Fri, 2010-03-12 at 22:47 +1100, Melissa Draper wrote:
> Aaannd closed. 
> 
> The winner in the red corner, with 21 out of 27 votes, is Monday at
> 9pm
> (Sydney time, 6pm Perth time, split the difference for those in
> between) 

Bugger I was hoping to get out of dinner an the Mother In-Laws  :(
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Re: Governance New Thread!

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I have to say that going down the path of forming an incorporated body
is "NOT" the way this should go! Lets keep it real and review the basic
function of the role of the Loco before re inventing the wheel.

Also (not researched) but one would think that if an incorporated body
did exist then you would possibly have a trademark violation by the use
of 'Ubuntu"

So please lets not entertain this idea!

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Re: Governance Structure Proposal for Ubuntu-AU

[Scott Evans]

Hi Michael...

Your input is valuable because from what you see currently (most likely)
without any prior knowledge of any disagreements (wrong word but it all
that I could think of!) between person A to person B. This is the
information needed, because for those that have been involved with
ubuntu-au from its inception may not necessarily see how its public
appearance is (healthy/unhealthy) I have to admit there really should be
more information being posted regularly to the front page with respect
to current happenings within the ubuntu community. Also for those that
are into blogs have an RSS feed syndicated into the
http://planet.ubuntu-au.org/ and there you can share information there
and attempt to get more interest in this field.

I think the strongest way that we can all contribute is to simply make
well crafted noise on the internetzs! and lets just see what we all can
achieve!

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Re: Governance Structure Proposal for Ubuntu-AU

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I think that those that are showing any interest in this discussion
should be automatically flagged as having a vested interest in the
future of ubuntu-au loco.  We can go around in circles forever and a day
saying that person X isn't right or person Y has got it all wrong...

@Melissa you have done a good job for your time in the position, but
have you considered that the ubuntu-au loco may have become "stale" and
in need of a facelift/change of guard?

For me, if there is enough people that believe that I am capable then
yes, I'll certainly put my hand up. However should it be deemed that I'm
not all I ask is for a reasonable explanation as to why, so that when
this comes up again (and I still have a interest) I know were to target
myself for improvement.

For those that may remember I posted a blog about the state of ubuntu-au

http://www.vk7hse.hobby-site.org/blog/2009/09/ubuntu-au-obsolete-or-needing-a-revamp/

So seriously, there does need to be an overall outline that can be
achieved by all of us! what ever contribution you do weather it be in
your business/private life then this needs to be considered as well. Not
all of us can or want to hold a some type of position, they will just
contribute in their own way as they see fit. 

As I see it over the last few years the ubuntu-au loco has stagnated and
hasn't made much of an attempt to do more than to simply exist on the
official list (ubuntu) really if you were to compare us to some other
small loco teams one would have to seriously think about where we stand
from that view point.

So what is it we want to achieve? who are we and what do we stand for?
What is the future of the Australian ubuntu-au Loco team?

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Re: Reapproval time

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Hey lets not forget that Melissa is but one person! and sadly most
things end up getting thrown back at her...  

This is a chance to regroup and set out new goals and to work towards a
common goal. Also with respect to the ubuntu website, its hard when the
ubuntu-au loco team doesn't have direct access/control of that resource.

As individuals we will achieve little, as a group we have a better
chance! Also if the requirement to be a position holder within ubuntu-au
requires ubuntu membership then that in its self is going to be an issue
for most that don't have it!

Also of course there are people in the ubuntu-au/au-chat IRC that simply
are not inclined to want to be "more" involved than what they currently
do (this is fine!)

So is this really a call to the viability of the Australian ubuntu-au
loco?

@Melissa can you expand on what titles are in need of review?

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Re: elections

[Scott Evans]

On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 09:37 +1100, peter baker wrote:

> hey guys
> 
> maybe with the pending approval process with the loco council it may
> be a good time to talk about holding an election for positions within
> the australian loco team.  we have not had elections for a while
> 
> how do people feel about this?  should we have more official positions
> than just team leader?
> 
> peter


Hmm please excuse my ignorance but who holds the current positions? and
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Re: Reapproval time

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On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 21:23 +1100, Melissa Draper wrote:

> So this thread is your invitation to note what you've done as a
> participant of this team. 


My involvement with the ubuntu-au community has been in a shared role as
the ubuntu-au mailing list moderator.  This is a rather important part
of keeping the mailing list clean from the plentiful spam that continues
to bombard us on a daily basis. Also as the Australian list is also
syndicated to Google Groups & Gmane there is also incoming emails that
come from these two sources that need to be approved etc... The more
timely manor a message gets processed then the better the chance of the
person asking feeling that they get a good result from consulting with
the ubuntu-au community.

Although to talk of the amount of "conversions" you have managed as an
individual is being discouraged, I think that this is a good decision!
especially in my case I only have a small circle of friends, and I've
certainly informed them that there are choices, I have to admit defeat
in that there has to be a better way to promote FOSS other than relying
on your immediate family! :"-)

I have attempted to hold a small for release party for both Jaunty &
Karmic via TASLUG, but was sadly disappointed when no one from the
greater Hobart region was interested. There was however some interest
from the north of the state but due to the distance nothing was
arranged. 

I did attempt two times to apply for ubuntu membership but was rejected
on the grounds of not contributing enough, I have since decided to not
pursue this any further (ubuntu membership) but I'm happy to remain as
active as one can be for my little part of the planet!

I do participate by sharing my thoughts on both IRC and through the
ubuntu-au-planet & ubuntu -au mailing list...

Outside of ubuntu-au (since October 2009) I'm involved with the
marketing of Icinga (fork from Nagios) and I have learnt quite a deal
during this time as this if something I have not done before! It's good
to branch into tasks you are not 100% confident on because if you manage
a good job of it you get the rewards in knowing you can achieve almost
anything if you apply yourself.

Ok I'm starting to just rant so I'll leave it at this unless I think of
more!  

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Re: Permissions

[Scott Evans]

Hi,

For starters your attempting to copy a windows .exe file to your
usr/local/bin ??? the windows .exe will not work under linux!

To keep your Linux system safe, you (the user) only have read/write
access to your home directory and /tmp so if you really need to copy
anything to anywhere else you are going to have to do this as the system
administration account (root)

If you are using the GNOME desktop, then press [alt + F2] and type "gksu
nautilus" and then you can achieve what you are setting out to do...
However, be warned when you are using nautilus as root you can do damage
to your install if you're not 100% certain what you are doing! (just be
careful and don't delete anything system related!)

[off topic]
That device that you are attempting to program, does it appear as its
own comm. port? (/dev/ttyU*) 

On Mon, 2010-01-25 at 10:33 +1000, Geoffrey wrote:

> I recently purchased an "Open USB IO Board" for experimental work.
> The software for it can be run using a Live DVD which came with the
> purchase or directly from within Ubuntu, the latter being preferable I
> think because it saves me boot switching. Below is an extract from the
> Quick Start instruction from the reference manual:
> 
> Open USB-IO Board: Extract from "Quick Start"
> • Go to www.pjradcliffe.wordpress.com and download the appropriate
ousb
> binary. If the Live-DVD of development tools is being used then the
ousb
> binary and much more is already installed. For Windows select ousb.exe
> file and place it in a convenient directory, ideally in the path. For
> Linux obtain the ousb binary and place it in /usr/local/bin, you may
> need root permissions to achieve this. If you cannot be root, then use
> any convenient directory, ensuring the file has execute privileges
set.
> • Open a terminal and try running the program with no parameters to
see
> help information. Under Windows select Start->Run, type cmd in the
text
> box then hit enter. If the ousb.exe program is not in the current path
> then use the cd command to move to the directory that contains
ousb.exe.
> Under Linux start a terminal and type ousb. If the binary was not
placed
> in the path again use cd to move to the right directory and
type ./ousb
> then enter.
> If ousb under Linux gives an error message about missing libraries
then
> go back to the web site and obtain ousb_static (much larger but
includes
> the libraries) and try again. Some Linux distributions protect USB
> access and so try using a root terminal.
> 
> I tried putting ousb.exe in /usr/local/bin (an empty folder) but was
> denied because this need Permission. Of course I can use an accessible
> "convenient directory" as mentioned above. However I am curious to
know
> about Permisssions. Please advise.
> Geoffrey Combes
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Hibernating shuts down

[Scott Evans]

There could be a number of reasons, the fist I think may be the hardware
you are running on may not be truely ACPI compliant thus causing this.
Or maybe the setting in you power management need to be reviewed (just
check to see what settings it has!) also have you added more memory to
the system since you setup the partitions on the drive, your swap space
may be smaller that your physical RAM 

Not guaranteed, but maybe these may help in some way...  ;-) 


On Thu, 2009-12-24 at 16:06 +1100, David Bowskill wrote:

> Dear all
> 
> 
> When  selecting  'hibernate' the computer shuts down (turns off) instead.
> 
> On start up it reports a sleep problem, but I am not sure what to do.
> 
> I am running Ubuntu 9.04
> 
> Any ideas ?
> 
> Many thanks
> 
> David
> 
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Re: Team roadmaps - UDS Dallas

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I'm wondering if the idea is being taken the wrong way...

Is it so important to have them using ubuntu? or is it better that they
know of ubuntu? because in a perfect world we would have both! but in
the real world I think its only going to be achievable to have one at
this stage.  Whilst Microsoft spends millions on advertising/vendor
incentives then it will always be an uphill battle! to add that with no
official funding as such to even compete (and it would be pointless to
even bother!) then word of mouth is our best weapon against the giant!
and certainly targeting local on-line access centres, adult-Ed etc...
would be by far more eventful than a full page spread in a daily rag!

my 2 cents worth! :-)

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Re: Google wave

[Scott Evans]

Ahh! that explains that then... thanks Melissa, as I've been too
lazy/uninterested to peruse it any further ;-)

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Re: Google wave

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Well I now have an invite (and accepted) but I couldn't see where I can
invite people to come and join! Oh I too only have 2 contacts, feel free
to add me if you wish by searching for vk7...@gmail.com

(I'll RTFM on it one day!)

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Re: Topic Change: Does everyone like the Koala

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Hi to all...

I have to agree on the half baked! I realise that Empathy will mature,
and maybe even surprise us all to the point of "hey why didn't we use
this earlier!" but sadly for me I find it irritating for IRC and have
since completely removed it and reverted back to Pidgin! (I only use
IRC, ICQ, & Gtalk/Jabber!) so to loose video conferencing to me is no
big deal! I use skype for that...

Now for my Eee, I have one of the wee tiny ones! (701-SD) and the
7" (16:10) display real estate is at a premium! I initially was using
(during Alpha) the normal desktop install but settled on using the
current UNR as the sleeker UI is far more usable than the previous! and
it's nice to now be able to still use a pretty background picture and
still be able to see it!

I did have some small issues with sound, but this was soon solved by
playing with what was available (meaning what works!) and due to having
a 7.1 surround sound device after selecting it ... well hey its all
good! As for the usplash, defiantly some work needed there a plain white
ubuntu logo I think looks bloody awful after having colour for so long!
(again just my opinion!) I've since to found a nifty way to set whatever
desktop image you have to then become the default after that ugly B/W
ubuntu logo!

So if I had to rate 9.10 I'd still give it a 8 -/- 10 and for the UNR
that gets a 9 -/- 10 ...

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Re: Creating A Linux Disro - Need Programmers, Disginers etc!

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As a moderator of this list, I was in two minds about letting this
original topic through...

I'm a fairly open person, So when it comes to what should and shouldn't
be "allowed" this topic had some merit at first but has just
(unfortunately) degraded to level that I'm not going to allow to
continue!

It must also be noted that Melissa (elky) posted (recently) a reminder
for "Respect and courtesy, please." for those that may have missed it
please refer to
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-au/2009-November/005409.html 

I will not be allowing any further flaming on this topic to be passed
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Re: Creating A Linux Disro - Need Programmers, Disginers etc!

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you beat me too it! ;)  .docx  Gahh!

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Re: Help with Epson 3490 Photo Scanner

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Thanks for posting your findings... I have an Epson all-in-one to get
working I'll see if this method will work for my case, its better than
what its NOT doing currently! 

On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 22:53 +1100, Peter Goggin wrote:

> I finally got my epson scanner working.  The answer was in a french
> document.   
> 
> In english the steps are:
> 1. Place the scanner distribution disk in the dvd drive.
> 2. Open a terminal and execute the folowing commands:
> cd /tmp
> mkdir dossier_cab
> cd dossier_cab
> cp /cdrom/ESCAN/ModUsd.cab .
> cabextract ModUsd.cab
> 3. Move the correct file to the erc/sane.d directory
> sudo cp Esfw52.bin /etc/sane.d
> 
> 4. Modify the snapscan.conf file
> sudo gedit /etc/sane.d/snapscan.conf
> 
> 5. Replace the line 
> firmware /path/to/your/firmware/file.bin
> 
> with:
> 
> firmware /etc/sane.d/Esfw52.bin
> 
> The scanner now works.
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
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Re: Synaptic Package Manager query

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They are fully supported by Ubuntu, meaning they maintain those
packages...

On Sun, 2009-11-08 at 17:12 +1000, Geoffrey wrote:

> In the list of packages there is a column between the select box and
> package name columns. It is either occupied by the Ubuntu logo or is
> blank.
> What is the significance of the Ubuntu logo?
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Re: My experience with Ubuntu...not great

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Next!  ;)

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Re: My experience with Ubuntu...not great

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We must also remember that everyone's experience levels are different,
Ubutnu has been striving to make the transition to Linux smooth, but
their approach is not going to suite everyone! the concept of
repositories for software for some is WTF!  but for those of us that
have been using Linux (of any flavour) for some time, just think back to
the very first distro you ever played with, was it smooth running for
you? I certainly recall back in 1998 attempting to install Red Hat 5.2
on the PC of the day and I had nothing but trouble! mind you Linux
certainly has progressed a lot since then! 

There is a lot of information on Ubuntu forums, but there is also a lot
of mis-guided information there as well, so in some sense you will be
told "hey do it this way" then to be told "no don't do that... this is
how!" etc... etc... again let recall your first experiences with Linux!

So we should respect that Linux isn't for everyone just yet! (but
hopefully one day!) 

(Oh here's another thing, the default setting on this list is to reply
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Re: Starting MySQL

[Scott Evans]

And if you did set a root password then your login of david is unknown
because the only account upon initial setup is root! ;)

On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 22:07 +1100, David Bowskill wrote:

> Hello All,
> 
> 
> This may seem a silly thing but I wish to learn some MySQL.
> 
> 
> Have down loaded all the packages using the Synaptic Package Manager OK.
> 
> 
> When I try to start from the terminal however, I receive  the error message:
> 
> 
> "ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'david'@'localhost' (using
> password: NO)"
> 
> 
> Can anybody help?
> 
> 
> Thanks for listening
> 
> 
> David Bowskill
> 
> 



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Re: Starting MySQL

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As a guess, I'd say that when you have installed the packages,when it
would have asked you to create a root password for MySQL you either just
hit enter (thus having no password!) or MySQL is only half configured.
As you don't have any data in your MySQL, if you open a terminal and
type...  sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server  ...  then just follow the
prompts.

Another useful package to use when starting out with MySQL is
PHPmyadmin, this is a PHP based web interface that you can setup on the
PC hosting the MySQL... then if this is on your PC the you access that
at http://localhost/phpmyadmin  login= root password= what ever you set
it to!

On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 22:07 +1100, David Bowskill wrote:

> Hello All,
> 
> 
> This may seem a silly thing but I wish to learn some MySQL.
> 
> 
> Have down loaded all the packages using the Synaptic Package Manager OK.
> 
> 
> When I try to start from the terminal however, I receive  the error message:
> 
> 
> "ERROR 1045 (28000): Access denied for user 'david'@'localhost' (using
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> 
> 
> Can anybody help?
> 
> 
> Thanks for listening
> 
> 
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[Fwd: Re: Help with Epson 3490 Photo Scanner]

[Scott Evans]

Sorry forgot to reply to all!

 Forwarded Message 

> From: Scott Evans 
> Reply-to: sc...@vk7hse.hobby-site.org
> To: Peter Goggin 
> Subject: Re: Help with Epson 3490 Photo Scanner
> Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 18:08:05 +1100
> 
> Sorry but I can only answer the second half of your question, the
> reason it stopped working after the reboot, was due to when it was
> working, this remained in memory, so once you rebooted it was no
> more!... I will keep track of your issue as I have a friend who also
> has an Epson printer that I'm getting an error with the scanner.  Oh I
> may be able to answer your first half, try reinstalling the printer
> driver (for your model) from the Epson website... see how you go, but
> if you get an error after completing that like no permission (to use
> the scanner) then you have struck the issue I have... 
> 
> I'm a HP guy so I'm not really that familiar with the Epson stuff,
> only what I've read from the web
> 
> Sorry if I'm zero help on this...
> 
> 
> On Mon, 2009-11-02 at 17:32 +1100, Peter Goggin wrote: 
> 
> > When I upgraded to the latest ubuntu release and connected my usb
> > scanner Xsane found it and I was able to scan some pages. I restarted my
> > computer today and Xsan does not find the scanner and I get the message:
> > Failed to open device 'snalscan:libusb:001:005': invalid argument.
> > 
> > What does this mean and why has shutting the ccomputer down and
> > restarting caused the problem?
> > 
> > 
> > Regards 
> > 
> > 
> > Peter Goggin
> > 
> > 
> 
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Re: Brisbane Release party Reminder

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Hey Andrew, are plane tickets included? (just kidding!) I hope that your
event goes well, there has not been any interest here in South Tas so
maybe next time!

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Re: Estimated time of official release for Australia

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Ha! ... I'll let you on in a little secret, I'm one of the ubuntu-au
mailing list moderators! I get an email for posts needing attention,
like replies coming back from google ;-)

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Re: Estimated time of official release for Australia

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Well with Time Zone difference, it is usually around the 9PM Eastern, so
give or take a bit! 


On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 20:02 -0700, In the scrub wrote:

> Ok 29/10has arrived  any idea when it will be available for download
> in oz  also via Torrent so can seed  ?
> Cheers
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Re: webcam drivers for ubuntu 9.04

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It really depends on the chipset that the camera is using, also some of
the older cams need some tweaking to get them working.  What model
camera is it?

On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 23:48 -0700, depro wrote:

> Where can I find a suitable Driver on the web, so I can use the webcam
> on my laptop. Regards depro
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Re: [OZAPRS] JavAprs question

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Hi Tony,

Firstly thanks for the wxsvr link! it's not on the new aprs.net.au site!
and I was just about to look to find the relevant zones and see if they
get passed to RF!

I'm happy with javAPRSSrv, but I have to admit its a little overkill for
an Igate ;) but that said, it (for me) has worked flawlessly the only
rebooting required is due to ubuntu karmic updates, oh yes I'm running
it on Linux! (ubuntu-server) so no GUI just good old CLI ;)

there are specific settings for traffic limits I just didn't post them
in that last post! but you are right about the corner peg issue! the
only down side to javAPRS, is that you can only have one port connected
to it (the same limit is also in APRSD) this I think is a little narrow
minded but then I suppose the average Igate is only working on one
port! :-/

If you like I can post you my config to have a look at (off list!) I
also posted a rather lengthy howto on the jaAPRSSrv yahoo grp, for
installing on Debian/Ubuntu... most of the info in that was provided by
Hamish (VK3SB) so I'm not sure if you were going to run it
(potentially?) on Windows or Linux, and if it is to be Linux then what
ever your preferred distro is!

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Re: Ubuntu-Au Forum

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Possibly indirectly already covered on ubuntu forums? and with this
mailing list (ubuntu-au)

On Sat, 2009-10-10 at 03:23 -0700, The Bronze wrote:

> Opinions please.
> 
> I create websites as a past time. Some for businesses. Some for
> community groups. I think this qualifies as the later and have been
> wondering how I can give back to the Ubuntu (and edubuntu) / Linux
> community in general.
> 
> What do people think about me hosting and administering a Linux /
> Ubuntu forum for Australian members. I don't know about you but I'm
> not a fan of the whole email / thread thing. It makes a terrible
> archive of information and I generally find the content hard to follow
> compared to the structure of a bulletin board / forum.
> 
> Just want to make sure that I'm not going to create something that may
> already exist somewhere (I haven't found it) and that generally people
> may use as an alternative to threaded mails.
> 
> I read an email tonight that if you want to do something just go ahead
> and do it. Well I'm happy to but what do other people think before I
> do?
> 
> Regards,
> 
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Re: Ubuntu-au Obsolete? or needing a revamp?

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I've never intended for ubuntu-au to solely run by one (that's crazy!)
but my intention was to get people talking about what they may be able
to contribute. I have to admit I haven't contributed to the current wiki
brainstorm with my idea's (but I will!) 

Its sad to see that a post I placed out earlier for a ubuntu release
gathering has gone completely unanswered, but I suppose that comes down
to...

A. I'm in Hobart!

B. Maybe there isn't many fellow Hobatians subscribed to ubuntu-au
mailing list 

C. Maybe there isn't that many users of ubuntu that want to participate
in such events

Back to ubuntu-au...

I'd really like to see more of a presence, than what is currently... I
realise this is my own wish, but I'm certain that we could all do just a
little to ensure that ubuntu-au has a real meaning to those that call it
there own! like if you are to compare other loco teams, there is a
significant involvement in release parties and the like.

Maybe my ideas are unrealistic!  :-/

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Re: No melbourne launch parties yet?

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Like wise, no Hobart either :(

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connecting to the internet

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This issue has been resolved, it turned out to be a a wireless WEP
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Re: connecting to the internet

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Can you open a terminal and paste the results back from the following
command... "ifconfig" (without quotes!)

Also are you attempting to use a wireless connection or a wired one?

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Re: Gpredict... bad keps

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Hmm... not happening here, but I use the download from web option so I'm
not importing directly ... the version of Gpredict in use here is the
current for Jaunty (0.9.0) the next pass for ISS (at the time of
writing) is just over 2 hours...


On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 22:39 +1000, Norm wrote:

> This is one for you hams you know who you are :)
> Just downloaded the latest keps of the internet 
> and I'm getting some crazy "Next Pass" predictions 
> for ISS.
> 
> Anyone else???
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Norm McMillan
> Mildura, Australia.
> The Wintersun City
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Re: Printing Logo

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I was just having a very quick look on http://www.canonical.com/ but as
they are the parent company of ubuntu I'm sure an email there way should
get you the info you are after...


On Wed, 2009-09-23 at 17:12 +1000, Denis wrote:
> Hi
> 
> I have a very important question, in regards to printing logos for the
> machines I am selling:
> 
>  
> 
> I find I am able to use the penguin, with no problems, and the word
> Linux.
> 
> However I can find no info regarding printing stickers, that state
> ( Ubuntu with the logo).
> 
> As I wanted to print a number of stick on vinyl labels:  stating
> Powered by Ubuntu, with the Logo. and place them on the computers I am
> selling.
> 
>  
> 
> I can live with Powered by Linux, and the little penguin,just that it
> would be nice to put the Ubuntu sign there as well.
> 
>  
> 
> Regards
> 
>  
> 
> Grandpa.
> 
>  
> 
> Grandpa's Computer services
> 
>  
> 
> Veresdale, Queensland.
> 
> Mobile: 040 2799118 
> 
>  
> 
> Denis. P. Rawlinson
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>  
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Re: usb bluetooth dongles

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Just for reference here's the device ID for the dongle on my Eee...

Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth
Dongle (HCI mode)

Can't really call this one a dongle as its tiny! roughly the diameter of
a 5 cent piece with the thickness of the USB plug! hence the reason it's
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Re: usb bluetooth dongles

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This is one i picked up from Big-W a while back it was about $17 but I
got mine cheaper due to the windows driver CD was missing! 

Bus 001 Device 009: ID 1131:1004 Integrated System Solution Corp.
Bluetooth Device

So I'd be inclined to shop around and find something a little cheaper! I
also have a second device that I got from Jaycar (this too was missing
box/CD) and I got that for a steal at $5  I don't have my Eee near by so
I cant recall the chip used but essentially both ones I have work fine
(out of the box!) the only issue I had was that annoying broken
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Re: Ubuntu-au Obsolete? or needing a revamp?

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Thanks to all that have sent a reply thus far... 

I'm collecting the information to use as a guide to get the feel for
what people want/expect/like/whatever! from ubuntu-au 

BTW I'm not saying that I want to take control over ubuntu-au! I just
want to see it become a resource that we all can use and improve on...

I also posted my email to my blog this is also incorporated into the
ubuntu-au planet... my blog also sends out to twitter/identi.ca/facebook
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Ubuntu-au Obsolete? or needing a revamp?

[Scott Evans]

Is it still fair to say that Australia still has an "active" ubuntu
team?

It seems that the proposed monthly meeting have failed, if a call for
help goes out on #ubuntu-au it generally goes unanswered as the person
doing the asking is in need of a quick answer and possibly leaves
assuming no-one wants to help them.

Is ubuntu-au still a current valid loco team if it's essentially
inactive?

What I'm hoping to achieve here is constructive comments/criticism of
the current state of ubuntu-au and hopefully get some activity happening
again... (may just be banging my head against a brick wall!)

Now I have abandoned any future applications (already tried twice only
to be rejected) to become an ubuntu member due to the narrow minded ways
of the force! but I'm keen to make a go of making something of
ubuntu-au.

Currently the ubuntu-au mailing list averages about 25-75 spam emails a
day! and it's rare to see a valid request (from mirrored sources of this
list) also they are generally requests for help. I realise that not
everyone is at their PC 24/7 or active on IRC but if I was asked as to
the current involvement of ubuntu-au I'd be hard pressed to give an
truthful answer to it meaning as currently it achieves very little
(IMHO)

So please bring forth a plethora of suggestion/ideas & comments... 

I am but one... as many we are a community...  lets make it "happen"

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Re: Stickers

[Scott Evans]

Well, I don't want to put a damper on this but I posted a SASE to ...
(system 76)

Australia

Sticker Offer
P.O Box 1412
Lavington, NSW 2641

back in January this year, as yet I have not received the reply envelope
containing the goods!

I offered to the person in charge of the above mentioned project that
I'd be happy to pay for postage for a quantity of stickers and the SASE
to be posted and I'll complete the request as I do not work and have the
time to assist with this. I was bluntly told that the matter was in hand
and to go posting items all over the place was inefficient. 

Thanks to the Ubuntu Australia Team!

You would be better off buying some from zareason not only will you get
what you want within 10 working days, these stickers are made from
aluminium and look much better than the paper  ones from the system 76
site...


> Hi folks
> I want some of those (~3-5) cute Ubuntu stickers. Please advise where
> I can find one for free/fee. Thanks :-)
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Re: channels.lst

[Scott Evans]

Simple! sudo apt-get install dvb-apps or search for dvb-apps in synaptic :)

On Thursday 27 August 2009 13:53:05 dean wrote:
> Scott Evans wrote:
> > This depends on your local! the dvb-apps package has channel information
> > for major places on the planet! but if you're after creating your own
> > then grab w_scan and then use...
> >
> > w_scan -X > channels.conf
> >
> >
> > here's how to use w_scan...
> >
> > usage: w_scan [options...]
> > -f type frontend type
> > What programs do you want to search for?
> > a = atsc (vsb/qam)
> > c = cable
> > s = sat
> > t = terrestrian [default]
> > -A Nspecify ATSC type
> > 1 = Terrestrial [default]
> > 2 = Cable
> > 3 = both, Terrestrial and Cable
> > -c  choose your country here:
> > DE, UK, US, AU, ..
> > ? for list
> >
> > -s  choose your satellite here:
> > S19E2, S13E0, S15W0, ..
> > ? for list
> > ---output switches---
> > -k  generate channels.dvb for kaffeine
> > -X  tzap/czap/xine output instead of vdr channels.conf
> > -x  generate initial tuning data for (dvb-)scan
> > -H  view extended help (experts only)
>
> Hey Scott,
>
> Thanks the dvb-apps package is interesting, how do I go about installing
> it?
>
> Best Regards,
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Re: channels.lst

[Scott Evans]

This depends on your local! the dvb-apps package has channel information for 
major places on the planet! but if you're after creating your own then grab 
w_scan and then use... 

w_scan -X > channels.conf


here's how to use w_scan...

usage: w_scan [options...]
-f type frontend type
What programs do you want to search for?
a = atsc (vsb/qam)
c = cable
s = sat
t = terrestrian [default]
-A Nspecify ATSC type
1 = Terrestrial [default]
2 = Cable
3 = both, Terrestrial and Cable
-c  choose your country here:
DE, UK, US, AU, ..
? for list

-s  choose your satellite here:
S19E2, S13E0, S15W0, ..
? for list
---output switches---
-k  generate channels.dvb for kaffeine
-X  tzap/czap/xine output instead of vdr channels.conf
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Re: TV Tuner card for Ubuntu 9.04 amd64

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Hi...

I use a Pinnacle 72e (DiB7000) and this works out of the box from ubuntu 
intrepid (8.10) onwards... any earlier then you need to apply kernel patches 
etc... This is however (72e) only a single channel receiver and it might be 
wise (I wasn't!) to get a dual channel receiver then you can watch & record at 
the same time!...  

If you happen to be on IRC then ask this question on #linuxtv 


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Re: Mobile Broadband for 9.04?

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Hi I have a simple Samsung A-412 handset, and this when connected via
the supplied USB or connected  via blue tooth acts as a 3G modem!
However, make sure to know exactly what data rates you will be paying as
you could be in for a rather rude shock! my mobile is with Telstra, and
they sure know how to charge on their 3g service please take care with
this as you certainly don't wish to get a bill you may not be able to
afford!

Also some phones just work, some fully work, and others just don't! it
is still rather hit'n'miss...

On Tue, 2009-08-18 at 13:12 +1000, opm595 wrote:

> Hi Guys,
> Just wondering if anyone can help me with advice on going mobile
> (broadband) with 9.04. I'm hoping it's actually possible, because my
> current mobile phone provider (Vodafone) has said noway are they
> looking at servicing anything other then MS, between now and this time
> next millennium. So, just thought someone here might be able to point
> me in the right direction.
> Thanks in advance.
> Regards,
> Rob 
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Re: connecting a ZTE F165 with next g to a ubuntu laptop

[Scott Evans]

As a guess, *21# on the Telstra network is for re-directing a number to
another!

-Original Message-
From: Paul Gear 
To: ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: connecting a ZTE F165 with next g to a ubuntu laptop
Date: Tue, 02 Jun 2009 09:43:30 +1000
Mailer: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (X11/20090409)

Dave Hall wrote: 

> On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 05:44 -0700, grahampowe...@gmail.com wrote:
>   
> 
> > Gday all
> > 
> > I have a ZTE F165 moblie phone that I will like to use as a wireless
> > modem on the telstra network though usb.The phone came up on network
> > connections but I don't what setting I need to make it work
> > 
> 
> 
> I know of the phone, but I have never tried to use it as a modem.
> Usually just configure pppd to dial *99# and it connects.


When i was on 8.04, i had good success setting up a mobile USB modem as
a dial-up modem.  I used the number *21# as well as *99# but i can't
remember which was Telstra and which was Optus.

Under 9.04, it will likely be automatic: right click Network Manager ->
Edit Connections -> Mobile Broadband -> Add.

Paul

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Re: Entry Level Network Printer

[Scott Evans]

I agree with Paul, in that the cost of the entry level HP LaserJet
series is not too expensive! in fact you will spend way more on the
first toner refill but that's just the way of things. But I too am a fan
of HP because nearly all there printers just work in Linux!

But if you have the absolute need to use a true network printer then I
would still recommend a HP! but really you would do better hooking it up
to a PC that is on mostly all the time then just share it though CUPS,
then your other PC's on the network just connect to it using IPP...
Simple!

I have 2 HP's (6122 & C4480) here and both are set up being shared via
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Re: HP LaserJet P1005 on/off problem

[Scott Evans]

Hi Dave,

Well CTRL+ALT+Backspace is only for restarting your X server! (except in
Jaunty requires dontzap to be installed to re-enable) I'm not 100%
familiar with the model printer that you have, but I'm assuming its a
entry level laser-jet. Do you connect this by USB? if so, you may find
that by removing the USB cable from it for 5-10 seconds then plugging it
back in that it "may" resume as it should. although I have just searched
the Ubuntu forums and there seems to be quite a lot of mention about
this model printer and the confusion between HP-1005 & HP-P1005.

There is this link http://foo2xqx.rkkda.com/ but if you are not
comfortable with any of this then "DON'T" attempt this! I normally
wouldn't suggest this type of fix as it could leave you with a broken
Ubuntu, hence it is usually best for you to stick with what's in the
Ubuntu repositories as they are known to work! (but not always!) and you
have a lesser chance of complete system failure.

Another thing to try, to confirm that your printer is picked up would be
to start the PC without the printer attached, then once booted & logged
in, plug the printer in and in a terminal type "lsusb" (without quotes!)
and see if the printer is in the listing (similar to below)

Bus 001 Device 011: ID 03f0:6c11 Hewlett-Packard
Bus 001 Device 007: ID 03f0:3404 Hewlett-Packard DeskJet 6122

This way you will know if the printer is being detected and would lead
to an issue with either HPLIP or CUPS.

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Re: HP LaserJet P1005 on/off problem

[Scott Evans]

As a guess, what version of HPLIP are you using? it may be that you need
to update it to a newer version as there could be something specific
that needs to be sent to the printer to wake it up (not sure) But I have
a all in one unit here HP-4400 and this looses the plot! if not printed
or used as a scanner, to resolve this, it just needs the power to be
cycled.

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Re: Upgrading from 8.04 to 9.04

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I tend to agree with the suggestion to start afresh and go with a clean
install. When I updated my 8.10 to 9.04 due to the amount of stuff I
have on my desktop PC the upgrade was around 2Gb of downloaded data! as
compared to just 700Mb for the install CD.

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Re: Hardware companies, Microsoft, Competition and Consumer Choice

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Thank you Sean, you have given a good balanced reply! I was generalising
instead of forcing my POV! But you have raised some good points, I
myself am a GNOME user but it wasn't always that way, quite a few years
back when I was tinkering with Red Hat (8) I was a KDE die hard (um if
you called someone that insisted on dual booting a die hard!) anyway...
I only started using GNOME once I started to use Ubuntu, although I have
had KDE 4.x installed at some points, I've tended to always gravitate
back to GNOME.  Again this is the advantage of that "Freedom" we have a
Linux users! I suppose to that for the developers of a given desktop
environment it's really a case of maintaining some "Identity" after all
this is what makes each of them unique.

I suppose where I was attempting to come from when I mentioned "too much
choice" I was thinking more of the "Marketing" aspect, that is if you
had to select say the 10 best things about Linux some of us wouldn't
hesitate to answer! but this really does come back to what you use your
Linux for, some would only want to use it because they can! but then you
also have it where some of us use Linux because we choose to! there is a
big difference in those two cases.

As to "Big question. How could this 'merge' happen?" Hmm... that I think
is going to be difficult although there is a fair amount of cross
compatibility between GNOME & KDE but its not to the level that you have
mentioned though.


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RE: Hardware companies, Microsoft, Competition and Consumer Choice

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Hi to all...

One of the biggest things that I feel is that makes Linux an
unattractive alternate, there is too much choice! yes you have main
stream distributions that most tend to stick with, but then you also
have a lot of not so main stream as well. Now, don't get me wrong here,
but the issue is that to the unaware consumer just what is Linux?
"something that a geek uses!" and it is with this, "image" of Linux it
will not be taken on as a majority OS.

I actually appreciate that as an individual you have a choice! :)

Now when I recently purchased 2 Eee PC's (701SD) they came bundled  with
Xandros pre-installed, I gave Xandros a run for about 2 hours then I was
installing Easy Peasy (remix of Ubuntu Intrepid) But what made me go
down this path was that although the Xandros OS was functional, upon the
first update out of the 3 repo's only one was still available (the other
2 returned 404's) so ASUS or Xandros (what ever the arrangement is) has
not maintained the repository server a mere 2 years out from the 701
initial release. For me this was simple replace Xandros with Ubuntu! but
my point being, is that even though Linux made its appearance on the
Netbook scene, its support has not been followed up (no doubt due to
lack of sales) I'm sure to that those with enough knowledge have either
replaced the default Xandros with Windows and save themselves a few
dollars in doing so.

So what is the answer to this? and how can it be changed?

Well in the short term, I don't think there is anything "one" can really
do to make a significant change to the status quo... However, as a
unified "community" I believe we can!

So back to the issue, I'm not a lawyer! but there has to be something
tucked away in the murky depths of consumer law that permits the
consumer to be able to have a "choice" in what they want...

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Re: Ubuntu One (U1)

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Well my reasoning for the lack of information was that if you were to be
interested, you would have just clicked on the URL and found out for
yourself!


>Why? What is it?  Can't you give any info in your mail?

However, it is similar to DropBox but with some differences...  ;-)

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Ubuntu One (U1)

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If you have not already heard of this project then you may wish to have
a look at https://ubuntuone.com/ This is a new service that is being
offered (at the time of writing) by subscription request, the
requirements are that you be running the current Ubuntu Jaunty Jackalope
(GNOME) 

If you decide to give this a try, there is a support IRC on #ubuntuone

Ubuntu One is still in beta, so as yet not all functionality is
implemented...

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Re: PDF Reader

[Scott Evans]

Please excuse my ignorance! but can't you run 32b in 64b ???


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