Re: [ubuntu-uk] Dear Ubuntu List Team i have something to draw to your attention
On Thu, 24 Jun 2021 at 20:25, Mark Dorrington wrote: > I am posting the ubuntu technicians e-mail address in case ubuntu does not > fix any > technical issues within ubuntu so he can report it to his developers. > Who are you asking to contact the technician? Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] todoman bug
On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 at 13:40, Ade Attwood wrote: > > Hi all first timer here > > I have an issue with the package "todoman". The bug is fixed on GitHub > with v3.4.1 but in the repos the latest version is v3.3.0. I have done > an apt show on the package and gone to the bugs URL. However, I need an > account on launchpad. What is the best way to get this repackaged. If it > means creating an Ubuntu one account I can. It is unlikely that the version will be updated in existing releases of Ubuntu unless it is a security issue or fairly serious. See [1] for the update policy. Ubuntu 18.10 has 3.4.0 by the way. Colin > > -- > ___ __ ___ __ __ __ >/ _ |___/ /__ / _ |/ /_/ /___ ___ ___/ / > / __ / _ / -_) / __ / __/ __/ |/|/ / _ \/ _ \/ _ / > /_/ |_\_,_/\__/ /_/ |_\__/\__/|__,__/\___/\___/\_,_/ > > Email:he...@adeattwood.co.uk > HomePage: http://adeattwood.co.uk > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Adobe Flash problem
On 21/08/18 06:39, Michael wrot > Problems watching ITV on 32bit 18.04. Have tried several Adobe flash > versions, nothing happens after unpack, Which Adobe flash version for > 18.04 please, how do I do it.Tks, Michael D > > Is flashplugin-installer installed? If not then try installing it. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ppa problem
On 25 June 2018 at 22:07, Jim Price wrote: > ... > Lesson learned - don't just delete PPAs which have been disabled by a > dist-upgrade. That's true, but in fact the better lesson is to purge ppas before upgrading and then put them back again. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ppa problem
On 25 June 2018 at 20:33, Jim Price wrote: > I've ended up in a bit of a bind. I updated from 14.04 to 16.04, which > seemed to go well but then I noticed that VLC was no longer installed. On > trying to re-install it, it could not find its dependency on vlc-nox. > vlc-nox is not in the 16.04 repo. I tried all the googleable suggestions, > but it would seem that as the version I had was installed from a ppa and > although the ppa is disabled (it got that way during the upgrade) even > re-enabling it didn't allow me to reinstall vlc and then ppa-purge it. The > ppa was the videolan stable repo. Is there any way of telling the apt > database that the package details (specifically the dependencies I guess) > are not correct any more for vlc and it should reload them from the universe > repo? > > I did think of trying the snap of vlc, but that didn't work with a similar > error message. There are now two vlc packages visible in synaptic too, which > may be the result of something else I've tried. I would start off by uninstalling it. Colin > > -- > JimP > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Xubuntu Display Settings
On 14 July 2017 at 00:05, Nigel Verity wrote: > Hi > > > I've been doing a bit of distro hopping recently and have returned to my > Linux "first love" - Xubuntu. Xfce has improved considerably since I > abandoned it 3 or 4 years ago for MATE. It was always capable of looking > really good, but the default theme settings used on Xubuntu and most other > distros used to be pretty uninspiring. > > > Everything works brilliantly, but I have one minor issue which I can't > fathom out. I have installed Xubuntu on a laptop. If it is running on > battery power and I then plug the mains adaptor in to top the battery up the > "Display Settings" dialog appears - not one instance, sometimes 5 or 6. > > > I could understand this if I were plugging a monitor in, but I am simply > applying mains power. Do you see anything useful in /var/log/syslog when you plug it in? If, in a terminal, your run tail -f /var/log/syslog then it will show the end of syslog and wait for new stuff to be written there. Then plug in the mains and see what happens in the terminal. If necessary you can copy/paste the extra stuff here (use Ctrl+Shift+C to copy marked text from the terminal). Colin > > > Any ideas, please? > > > Thanks > > > Nige > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] wifi dongles
On 30 November 2016 at 12:03, Dave Morley wrote: > On Wed, 30 Nov 2016 11:56:01 + (UTC) > George Tripp wrote: > >> Can anyone recommend a wifi dongle that's plug & play / compatible >> with 16.04. >> >> >> George >> > > Pretty much any will work personally I have tp-link ones that work fine. I have never come across one that does not work with Ubuntu. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyboard " and @ change.
On 20 October 2016 at 16:33, Michael wrote: > > > On 20/10/2016 16:39, Colin Law wrote: > > On 20 October 2016 at 15:27, Michael > wrote: > >> My " and @ symbols have changed from the UK layout to the American one. >> >> I have checked 16.04 keyboard and language settings and both seem to be >> correct. >> >> Problem found on switch-on today. >> > > There was a bug that caused that intermittently on some systems, though I > thought it had been fixed. If it is that then it would probably be ok if > you rebooted. Otherwise have you got an icon on the top panel for > selecting the keyboard layout? Probably a white rectangle with black > letters indicating the country, should be En1 probably. If so see if there > are options there, perhaps you inadvertently select the USA one. On mine > En2 is the USA one. > > Colin > > > Tks Colin. > > Have checked, don't see an icon that you suggest, I could try reloading > 16.04 if it might resolve ? > > System Settings > Text Entry Colin > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyboard " and @ change.
On 20 October 2016 at 15:27, Michael wrote: > My " and @ symbols have changed from the UK layout to the American one. > > I have checked 16.04 keyboard and language settings and both seem to be > correct. > > Problem found on switch-on today. > There was a bug that caused that intermittently on some systems, though I thought it had been fixed. If it is that then it would probably be ok if you rebooted. Otherwise have you got an icon on the top panel for selecting the keyboard layout? Probably a white rectangle with black letters indicating the country, should be En1 probably. If so see if there are options there, perhaps you inadvertently select the USA one. On mine En2 is the USA one. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Script to dd from an SD card only partitioned area
On 20 September 2016 at 08:55, Neil Greenwood wrote: > > > On 19 September 2016 21:07:13 BST, Colin Law wrote: >>On 19 September 2016 at 20:13, Neil Greenwood >> wrote: >>> Sorry for the top post, I'm on my phone. >>> >>> I think partimage does what you want already. Clonezilla gives a >>(very >>> slightly) friendlier front end, but I've not used either for several >>> years... >> >>I believe partimage does not handle ext4 which would be a problem (at >>least that is what [1] says) >> > > You are right. It looks like it may work with ext4, but it's not supported. > fsarchiver is an alternative that does support ext4 and is written by the > partimage developer. I think fsarchiver will only archive one partition at a time rather than the complete device. > >>I had thought about clonezilla and will have another look at it. The >>last time I used it (which was some time ago) it seemed overly >>complex, but perhaps I just need to put a bit more effort in to see >>how to use it from a script. >> > > Clonezilla definitely supports ext4, using partclone which may be more easily > scripted... I can report that clonezilla does exactly what I need. Having worked my way through the rather tortuous UI it is, in fact, very easy to script. To clone the SD card I just need to unmount any mounted partitions on the device (sdb in my case): for n in /dev/sdb* ; do umount $n ; done Then mount the folder I want to save the image in as /home/partimag sudo mount --bind $FOLDERTOCLONETO /home/partimag and run the command sudo /usr/sbin/ocs-sr -q2 -c -j2 -z1p -i 4096 -fsck-src-part -p choose savedisk sdb and to restore to a card, unmount its partitions and mount /home/partimag as above and sudo /usr/sbin/ocs-sr -g auto -e1 auto -e2 -c -r -icds -j2 -p true restoredisk sdb This seems to work perfectly, and has the added bonus that the image is much smaller that dd (even when gzipped). The Raspbian Lite image which contains about 1.3GiB of files in a 2GB partition (plus the other bits and pieces) is squashed down to just over 0.5GiB when cloned, but is 1.2GiB when dumped with dd and then gzipped. Thanks all for the suggestions Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Script to dd from an SD card only partitioned area
On 19 September 2016 at 20:13, Neil Greenwood wrote: > Sorry for the top post, I'm on my phone. > > I think partimage does what you want already. Clonezilla gives a (very > slightly) friendlier front end, but I've not used either for several > years... I believe partimage does not handle ext4 which would be a problem (at least that is what [1] says) I had thought about clonezilla and will have another look at it. The last time I used it (which was some time ago) it seemed overly complex, but perhaps I just need to put a bit more effort in to see how to use it from a script. Thanks Colin [1] https://www.partimage.org/Main_Page > > > Neil > > On 19 September 2016 17:49:44 BST, Colin Law wrote: >> >> On 19 September 2016 at 17:18, Robert McWilliam wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, 19 Sep 2016, at 14:21, Colin Law wrote: >>>> >>>> I do a fair amount of work with SD cards and use dd to create an image >>>> for backup or for burning onto other cards. If I burn an image from an >>>> 8GB card onto a 16GB card then I get a card which is only half used. >>>> If I then make an image from that one then I get a 16GB image (of >>>> which only 8GB or less is partitioned) which is larger than it needs >>>> to be and also if I burn that onto another 8GB card then it fails as >>>> the card is not large enough (or at least it says it has failed, the >>>> card will in fact be ok). >>> >>> >>> You can copy a single >>> partition by pointing dd at the partition rather >>> than the device, e.g. sda1 rather than sda. I expect that would achieve >>> the same thing as giving dd offset and size that you can get from fdisk >>> (but less likely to get those wrong). >>> >>> Neither approach will give you an image that you can (reliably) put back >>> onto a card with (just) dd. It won't include the partition table. >> >> >> Is not the partition table in the space before the first partition? So >> in the example I posted where I had >> >> Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type >> /dev/sdb1 8192 137215 129024 63M c W95 FAT32 (LBA) >> /dev/sdb2 137216 4233215 4096000 2G 83 Linux >> >> is not the partition table in sectors 0 to 8191? So if I copy sectors >> 0 to 2333215 that should include the partition table and all the >> partitions. Is that not correct? >> >>> It >>> will work if the destination card is partitioned the same as the source >>> and you write to the same offset, or if you've got a partition the same >>> size and you update the offset to hit that, but otherwise you'd need to >>> update the partition table (and other partitions) to make an >>> appropriately sized gap for it and then write to that. >>> >>> I think it's better to look at what you're trying to do, and see if dd >>> is the right tool. I can understand wanting to use dd for archiving or >>> backing up cards since it'll also catch things that have been deleted or >>> lost to filesystem corruption that you can then (try to) recover once >>> you've noticed that something is missing. I'm less convinced it's a good >>> idea going the other way; it causes the problems you're seeing when >>> sizes aren't the same and it means you're writing more to the cards than >>> you need to. I >>> think you'd be better to mount the image file and copy >>> the files across to the card. >> >> >> To do it that way I believe I would have to write a script to pick up >> the partition info from the original card, mount and copy the files in >> each partition, and save the partition info with the files. Then to >> restore it I would need a script to re-partition the new card and copy >> the files across to each partition. >> >> Colin > > > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Script to dd from an SD card only partitioned area
On 19 September 2016 at 18:37, Robert McWilliam wrote: > On Mon, 19 Sep 2016, at 17:49, Colin Law wrote: >> On 19 September 2016 at 17:18, Robert McWilliam wrote: >> Is not the partition table in the space before the first partition? So >> in the example I posted where I had >> >> Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type >> /dev/sdb1 8192 137215 129024 63M c W95 FAT32 (LBA) >> /dev/sdb2 137216 4233215 4096000 2G 83 Linux >> >> is not the partition table in sectors 0 to 8191? So if I copy sectors >> 0 to 2333215 that should include the partition table and all the >> partitions. Is that not correct? > > Put a 4 in front of that end sector number, lose one of the 3's, and > yes, I think you'd get partition table and those two partitions. That > kind of transcription error is why I don't think you should play with > offsets directly. That looks like a human transcription error so you > wouldn't have exactly that type of error in a script, but parsing text > to get a number is really fragile (what appears in the "Boot" column > there when it has something? Will your parsing be thrown off that? What > else might change?). Indeed, that is precisely why I hoped there would either be better ways of determining the partion information or a better way of doing the whole exercise. > ... > For a whole card image you can make loopback devices for the partitions > in it: > $sudo losetup -Pf --show disk_image.raw > then mount the partitions > $sudo mount /dev/loop0p1 /mnt/point > then copy the files to a card (or anywhere else) with normal file > management tools, unmount the image: > $sudo umount /mnt/point > and detach the loopback device > $sudo losetup -d /dev/loop0 That is interesting, thanks. > > For the single partition image you don't need the loopback device and > can mount it directly with: > $sudo mount -o loop partition_image.raw /mnt/point > > As for partitioning the destination card: I'd keep them all partitioned > with one partition the full size of the card. If you want a clean card > to restore an image too: rm -rf /where/its/mounted (be very, very, > careful if putting that in a script with something to determine the > mount point...). I don't have full control of the partitions. The example I showed is is a bootable raspbian lite card. Another is a NOOBS card running raspbian, another is a SheevaPlug running Ubuntu 9.04 and so on. So if I want an automatic script it will have to clean and re-partition the new card appropriately. Regards Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Script to dd from an SD card only partitioned area
On 19 September 2016 at 17:18, Robert McWilliam wrote: > On Mon, 19 Sep 2016, at 14:21, Colin Law wrote: >> I do a fair amount of work with SD cards and use dd to create an image >> for backup or for burning onto other cards. If I burn an image from an >> 8GB card onto a 16GB card then I get a card which is only half used. >> If I then make an image from that one then I get a 16GB image (of >> which only 8GB or less is partitioned) which is larger than it needs >> to be and also if I burn that onto another 8GB card then it fails as >> the card is not large enough (or at least it says it has failed, the >> card will in fact be ok). > > You can copy a single partition by pointing dd at the partition rather > than the device, e.g. sda1 rather than sda. I expect that would achieve > the same thing as giving dd offset and size that you can get from fdisk > (but less likely to get those wrong). > > Neither approach will give you an image that you can (reliably) put back > onto a card with (just) dd. It won't include the partition table. Is not the partition table in the space before the first partition? So in the example I posted where I had Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type /dev/sdb1 8192 137215 129024 63M c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sdb2 137216 4233215 4096000 2G 83 Linux is not the partition table in sectors 0 to 8191? So if I copy sectors 0 to 2333215 that should include the partition table and all the partitions. Is that not correct? > It > will work if the destination card is partitioned the same as the source > and you write to the same offset, or if you've got a partition the same > size and you update the offset to hit that, but otherwise you'd need to > update the partition table (and other partitions) to make an > appropriately sized gap for it and then write to that. > > I think it's better to look at what you're trying to do, and see if dd > is the right tool. I can understand wanting to use dd for archiving or > backing up cards since it'll also catch things that have been deleted or > lost to filesystem corruption that you can then (try to) recover once > you've noticed that something is missing. I'm less convinced it's a good > idea going the other way; it causes the problems you're seeing when > sizes aren't the same and it means you're writing more to the cards than > you need to. I think you'd be better to mount the image file and copy > the files across to the card. To do it that way I believe I would have to write a script to pick up the partition info from the original card, mount and copy the files in each partition, and save the partition info with the files. Then to restore it I would need a script to re-partition the new card and copy the files across to each partition. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Script to dd from an SD card only partitioned area
I do a fair amount of work with SD cards and use dd to create an image for backup or for burning onto other cards. If I burn an image from an 8GB card onto a 16GB card then I get a card which is only half used. If I then make an image from that one then I get a 16GB image (of which only 8GB or less is partitioned) which is larger than it needs to be and also if I burn that onto another 8GB card then it fails as the card is not large enough (or at least it says it has failed, the card will in fact be ok). The ideal would be a script which uses dd to make the image, but only copies as much as is necessary of the card. Before starting on a script I thought I would bounce the idea of those here in case anyone can see a flaw in my method, or has a better idea. Running fdisk -l /dev/sdb gives $ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sdb Disk /dev/sdb: 14.9 GiB, 15931539456 bytes, 31116288 sectors Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disklabel type: dos Disk identifier: 0xe5cfcef7 Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type /dev/sdb1 8192 137215 129024 63M c W95 FAT32 (LBA) /dev/sdb2 137216 4233215 4096000 2G 83 Linux >From which I see that the sector size is 512 bytes and the end sector of the last partition is 4233215. From this I deduce that I must tell dd to copy (4233215+1)*512 bytes. Am I missing anything here? If that is correct then I can see that I could write a script to use fdisk to get the sector size and the highest value of end sector and call dd accordingly. Any better ideas? Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu upgade 14.04 to 16.04 - incomplete Lois McNab
On 4 August 2016 at 13:43, Lois McNab wrote: > Hi Colin, > Thank you for the advice. > > Excuse my ignorance , how do I run sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade? First a couple of points about protocol on this list. Please don't top post. Insert your reply into the previous message at appropriate points. Also please post in plain text not html. Thanks. You type it and hit enter. That is after logging in as I explained previously. Now you can see the benefit of inserting replies. If you had done that my previous post explaining what to do would have been just above this so you could easily find it. Now you are going to have to scroll down looking for my previous reply. Colin > > Thanks in advance > > > Lois McNab > > > > From: "ubuntu-uk-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com" > > To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > Sent: Thursday, 4 August 2016, 13:00 > Subject: ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 136, Issue 5 > > Send ubuntu-uk mailing list submissions to > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > ubuntu-uk-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > ubuntu-uk-ow...@lists.ubuntu.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of ubuntu-uk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Ubuntu upgade 14.04 to 16.04 -incomplete (Lois McNab) > 2. Re: Ubuntu upgade 14.04 to 16.04 -incomplete (Colin Law) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 06:22:46 + (UTC) > From: Lois McNab > To: "ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com" > Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu upgade 14.04 to 16.04 -incomplete > Message-ID: > <1040127863.15956557.1470291766543.javamail.ya...@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hello, > I started to upgrade on 1.8.2016 from 14.04 to 16.04 ?and the files were > being upgraded , when it stopped/froze. > I attempted to restart the computer ,pressed F1 the following message > appeared on ?black screen: > [?ok?]?Started create volatile files and directories.? ? ? ? ?starting > update UTMP about System Boot/Shutdown...? ? ? ? ?starting network time > synchronisation...[ok] ? starting update UTMP about system > Boot/Shutdown..?[ok]?? started Network Time Synchronisation.[ok]?? Reached > target System Time synchronised.[ok] ?Started Set console font and > keymap.[ok]??Created slice system-getty.slice.[ok] ? started LSB: AppArmor > initialisation.?[ok] ?started udev Kernel Device Manager.? ? ? ? ? starting > Show Plymouth Boot screen[ok] ? Reached Target Printer > Flashing cursor at bottom, I am unble to type anything. > Any suggestions /advice ?would be much appreciated. > ThanksLois? > ? > Lois McNab > ------ next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/attachments/20160804/b631c91b/attachment-0001.html> > > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 08:32:33 +0100 > From: Colin Law > To: Lois McNab , UK Ubuntu Talk > > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu upgade 14.04 to 16.04 -incomplete > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On 4 August 2016 at 07:22, Lois McNab wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I started to upgrade on 1.8.2016 from 14.04 to 16.04 and the files were >> being upgraded , when it stopped/froze. >> >> I attempted to restart the computer ,pressed F1 the following message >> appeared on black screen: >> ... >> Flashing cursor at bottom, I am unble to type anything. > > Hit Ctrl+Alt+F1 which > should take you to a terminal. Login there and run > sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade > if there are any errors come back to us. Then reboot using > sudo reboot > and see if that helps > Colin > > > > -- > > -- > ubuntu-uk mailing list > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > > > End of ubuntu-uk Digest, Vol 136, Issue 5 > * > > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu upgade 14.04 to 16.04 -incomplete
On 4 August 2016 at 07:22, Lois McNab wrote: > Hello, > > I started to upgrade on 1.8.2016 from 14.04 to 16.04 and the files were > being upgraded , when it stopped/froze. > > I attempted to restart the computer ,pressed F1 the following message > appeared on black screen: > ... > Flashing cursor at bottom, I am unble to type anything. Hit Ctrl+Alt+F1 which should take you to a terminal. Login there and run sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade if there are any errors come back to us. Then reboot using sudo reboot and see if that helps Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Mystic Meg aka Facebook
On 22 June 2016 at 08:44, Pete Smout wrote: > > On 22 Jun 2016 06:13, "Gareth France" wrote: >> >> >> >> On 22/06/16 01:10, Liam Proven wrote: >>> >>> Do you have the FB client on your smartphone? Did you let it access >>> your contacts? Then it knows who you called, knows his number and made >>> the connection. >> >> >> As I understand it this would not be possible on the Ubuntu phone. > > There's is a great advert for the Ubuntu phone Even better don't use facebook. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] New hard drive errors
On 18 June 2016 at 16:21, Mark Fraser wrote: > Bought a new 3TB hard drive this week onto which I created a new GPT partition > table and a 3TB ext4 partition. This completed successfully and I used rsync > to copy some files onto it. > > The next day, I was unable to mount the drive and so I ran fsck on it. This > failed pass 5: Checking group summary information with lots of block bitmap > differences. If you have not already done so then check the SMART data for the disc. Also look in syslog to see if there are any rude messages. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Corrupt VLC problem in 4.2014 THREAD CLOSED
On 4 April 2016 at 21:02, Michael wrote: > Determination has resolved the problem, Michael has his multi-region player > back..thread closed, regards to all It is good practice to say what the cause of the problem was, so that we can all learn from your experience. It may happen to me next week. Colin > > On 04/04/16 20:32, Michael wrote: >> >> I tried deleting in terminal but did not. >> A DVD causes drive-chatter, sometimes a box of error messages, but no >> playback possible, just shows the disc title. >> Was good, looks like VLC corruption has developed. >> I'm hoping a complete removal is possible in terminal, is anybody able to >> tell me what to do, please ? >> Thanks, Michael >> > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Corrupt VLC problem in 4.2014
On 4 April 2016 at 20:32, Michael wrote: > I tried deleting in terminal but did not. > A DVD causes drive-chatter, sometimes a box of error messages, but no > playback possible, just shows the disc title. > Was good, looks like VLC corruption has developed. VLC will not have become corrupted. It is just possible that some of it's settings may have become messed up. To check that logon as Guest and try vlc again, that will give you a new set of settings for the app. If it works in guest then I suggest removing (back in your normal login) the folder .config/vlc which I believe contains your personal vlc settings. > I'm hoping a complete removal is possible in terminal, is anybody able to > tell me what to do, please ? If you really want to remove it then sudo apt purge vlc That will remove the app and all configuration files installed by vlc. To remove your personal settings for vlc remove the folder .config/vlc as mentioned above. However it sounds more like a hardware issue to me. Does the drive still work in a different player? Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Missing menu in top panel.
On 19 January 2016 at 09:04, Barry Drake wrote: > On 13/01/16 20:37, Barry Drake wrote: >> >> I have reported the missing menus in the top panel as bug #1533826 in >> respect of Audacity. > > > I have just reported the identical bug as Libreoffice Bug #1535579. Please > can someone confirm it, as I have no idea how many other applications it may > effect at this stage. We are talking about Xenial, and it is not long to > its release date. My system is up to date as at yesterday. I am not seeing it in either app, there must be something a bit different about your machine. Have you tried a fresh install? Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
On 13 January 2016 at 18:07, Barry Drake wrote: >>Not sure what you mean by gnome menus in the top panel. Can you be >>more explicit? Are you running Ubuntu with Unity? > > Hi Colin . When you move the mouse pointer into the top panel, many > applications show a menu on the left of the top panel. Libreoffice is one > example, but the one I'm having a problem with is Audacity. The menu works > OK in Thunderbird, but not in the others. I suppose I'll report it as and > 'Audacity' bug, and see what response I get. Both Audacity and LibreOffice ok on fully updated 16.04 here. Have you tried doing another update in case you you updated whilst the repos themselves were being updated so you did not get all that you should have? Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com
On 13 January 2016 at 15:46, Barry Drake wrote: > Hi In 16.04, currently all the gnome menus on the top panel seem to > have disappeared. This makes some applications, Libreoffice, not fully > useable as some functions can only be accessed from the menu. I can't find > an existing bug report for this. What program should I report it against > please? Not sure what you mean by gnome menus in the top panel. Can you be more explicit? Are you running Ubuntu with Unity? I will update mine (has not been done for a couple of days) to see if I see it. Colin > > Regards,Barry. > -- > http://barrydrake.co.nr/ > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyboard shortcuts in 15.04
On 17 December 2015 at 11:06, Liam Proven wrote: > On 17 December 2015 at 08:45, Barry Drake wrote: >> Sorry not to respond sooner. I've booted into the BIOS settings. I could >> not find anything that has to do with wake/sleep. The manual than deals >> with the BIOS setup is at: >> https://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/p70_ug_en.pdf?LinkTrack=Solr&#page=89 >> >> There doesn't seem to be any way of disabling that. I do have the hibernate >> settings in Ubuntu turned on, and set to sleep when the top is closed. So I >> can't go any further with your very helpful suggestions. Sorry, I was >> incorrect in my previous statement that the BIOS setup allowed disabling of >> this feature. > > > Thanks for that. > > Having a model number to Google with now, I am sorry to have to tell > you that it looks like you're right -- it can't be disabled. > > https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-X-Series-Laptops/How-do-I-disable-Hibernate-FN-hotkey-How-do-I-disable-Hibernate/td-p/503735 > > And as linked from there: > > https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-T400-T500-and-newer-T/Lenovo-T410-Disable-Hibernation-function-FN-F12/td-p/407741 Those seem to be talking about FN keys, whereas Barry said it was F3 for suspend, which seemed particularly strange to me. Barry? Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyboard shortcuts in 15.04
On 16 December 2015 at 20:20, Liam Proven wrote: > > * Ubuntu has its own software-driven suspend/resume and hibernate/wake Is Ubuntu's hibernate (as opposed to suspend) reliable? I thought it was no longer supported. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyboard shortcuts in 15.04
On 15 December 2015 at 21:43, Barry Drake wrote: > Hi there The +F3 is permanently hard-coded to sleep/wake. I > can't find anywhere a keyboard shortcuts conf file. The locations given for > earlier versions of Ubuntu on the internet are no longer valid for 15.04. I > need all the F keys to play different pieces of Christmas music (Carols) > with the press of a key. I need to set it up on my laptop before Christmas > eve. Anyone able to give me a clue please? This may do what you want. System Settings > Keyboard > Shortcuts > Custom Shortcuts Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu phone
On 1 December 2015 at 17:47, Tony Pursell wrote: > I have both an Android and an Ubuntu phone. The only Google thing the > Ubuntu phone doesn't do is Hangouts. I would love to have that. What I do > have is Gmail, G+, Maps & Calendar. For those that use it Hangouts is an essential (including integration with SMS). Does it do google navigation? The real-time traffic data is the killer there. I am not trying to be negative about Ubuntu Phone, it would be great if it manages to catch up with Android. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu phone
On 1 December 2015 at 16:39, Alan Pope wrote: > On 1 December 2015 at 16:35, Colin Law wrote: >> Without the Google Apps (Gmail, Hangouts, Maps, navigation, G+) a lot >> of Android users will be very resistant to moving to Ubuntu, >> unfortunately. >> > > ..and many don't need any of those.. :) > > My brother - a very typical mobile phone user - just switched from a > Samsung Android device to a Nokia/Windows device because all he wants > is Facebook, a camera and browser. > > There's a lot of different types of users out there. Agreed, I was not suggesting otherwise. Though certainly a significant majority of the dozen or so Android users I know require at least a couple of the google apps. They are not necessarily typical users however. For myself I wish I could justify having a second phone in order to have Ubuntu on it. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu phone
On 1 December 2015 at 16:17, Barry Drake wrote: > On 01/12/15 14:19, Liam Proven wrote: >> >> On 1 December 2015 at 15:15, Alan Pope wrote: >>> >>> No, other platforms (Jolla, Tizen) have it. > > >> And Blackberry 10, which isn't even a version of Linux. (I have a >> Passport, a new smartphone with an actual physical *keyboard*. There's >> innovation for you!) > > > Oh, I know it's quite feasible. And quite a lot of the system is open > source. Since it runs on a very limited Linux kernel, I can see it wouldn't > be much of a problem. If any of the phone team are listening, please put it > on the wish-list. Without the Google Apps (Gmail, Hangouts, Maps, navigation, G+) a lot of Android users will be very resistant to moving to Ubuntu, unfortunately. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] $5 Computer
On 27 November 2015 at 16:02, alan c wrote: > On 26/11/15 14:46, Simon Greenwood wrote: >> On 26 November 2015 at 14:31, Alan Lord wrote: >> >>> On 26/11/15 14:03, Alan Pope wrote: >>> I remember my brother getting music magazines with promo plastic records on the front :) >>> >>> lol - *I* remember getting those bendy 45s on the front of magazines... >>> >>> ​ >> Me too - I still have a few in my singles case​. Getting a record player >> set up is scheduled for some time next year... >> >> ​s​/ >> > > LOL LOL > My first job needed a slide rule use a LOT... One day I needed to calc > a large number of square roots. Went to a special large room > (cupboard) with only a table chair and a 10-digit nixie tube display > mans powered calculator. Later on that day I went back to the shop > floor where we made valves. (Valves are glass things like old light > bulbs, only they had lots of stuff inside and lots of plug in > connecting pins). Said hello to the glass blowers, and skirted around > the mercury vacuum pumps, to get to my desk... > > Ah! Those were the days! #computing > > NB a slide rule is a special little stick with markings along it. Good > for lots of uses including I suppose building the pyramids. Have you still got yours Alan? I have mine. A classy Thornton's plastic model. My brother had a wooden one, mine was much smoother in operation, most superior. If you only need three digits precision it can be almost as fast as a calculator and it forces you to think what the numbers mean in a way you don't with a calculator. Much easier to make a stupid mistake on a calculator and never notice as you don't get an intuitive feel for the numbers in the same way. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] $5 Computer
On 26 November 2015 at 13:17, Alan Lord wrote: > Slightly OT but I thought it interesting in case anyone missed the > announcement this morning: > > https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/raspberry-pi-zero/ That's outrageous. Free computer with magazine indeed. What is the world coming to? Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Network Enlightenment
On 17 November 2015 at 14:24, Nigel Verity wrote: > Hi > > I have arrived at a situation where I have 2 routers in my home network. > > Router A provides the connection back to my iSP while router B serves purely > as a wireless access point. B is connected to A. > > I connect wired devices to router A through powerline adaptors and wireless > devices talk to router B. > > There is no real need for the wired and wireless devices to talk to each > other, so the fact that they don't have sight of each other is not a > problem. > > I recently discovered that my Dell laptop routinely had both wired and a > wireless interfaces active. This means it was accessing both routers > simultaneously. > > The wireless connection on the Dell is now switched off, but I can't say > I've noticed any change to internet performance for better or worse. The > route duplication seems to have been managed perfectly well without any > explicit configuration on my part. > > For my own enlightenment can anybody with more networking knowledge than me > (which is practically everyone) suggest how my internet traffic is likely to > have been routed across these two connections? I would have expected > contention at the very least. There won't be any contention issues as the wired and wifi interfaces on the PC will have different ip addresses. The PC could route route through either interface and all would be well. I suspect that Simon is right in that it will prefer the wired i/f when available, but I don't know. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Twin DVD drives not mounting
On 20 September 2015 at 13:04, David Goldsbrough wrote: > ... > It was > then I discovered my previous installation had not recognised my twin DVD > drives as I was unable to burn the ISO image after download. If you remove the extra fstab entries and reboot and plug in an already burnt dvd does it work? If not does anything appear in syslog when you plug it in? Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 15.10 Wily - Dash problem
On 30 August 2015 at 17:07, Barry Drake wrote: > On 30/08/15 17:01, Colin Law wrote: > >> How did you remove them? > > > In the Online Accounts settings window, on the Google account settings, each > of these accounts shows an 'on/off' switch. I turned all of them off to > block access. I didn't remove any software, or alter any other parameters. Do you mean accounts in the left hand pane? I am not seeing any there. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 15.10 Wily - Dash problem
On 29 August 2015 at 14:06, Barry Drake wrote: > Hi Colin Thanks for your reply which seems to have disappeared! No, > the online search is not disabled - but I think I had it disabled when I was > trying to avoid google interference. Re-enabling everything did not cure > the problem. OK, I thought it might be https://bugs.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/1320539 (Dash search of applications is randomly disabled when online searches have been turned off) but apparently not. Don't know then, sorry. Colin > > > Kind regards, Barry. > > -- > http://barrydrake.co.nr/ > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 15.10 Wily - Dash problem
On 29 August 2015 at 12:25, Barry Drake wrote: > On 29/08/15 11:25, Alan Pope wrote: > >> Do you mean the launcher on the left is gone, or it is there but empty, or >> it's there and you can open the dash (with the windows key) but no apps >> appear? > > > Hi Alan. Thanks for your quick response. The launcher hasn't changed. The > dash appears as normal, but shows only documents. Clicking the 'apps' icon > at the bottom of the dash tells me that there is nothing that matches the > search (for all applications). I said "This happened immediately after I'd > tried to 'de-google' the system as far as I was able". I had removed all of > the google integration settings from the system settings -> online accounts > with the exception of contacts. It may have been co-incidental, but > immediately after that, the problem first occurred. Have you disabled online search? I know it should not make any difference, but if so then try enabling it again. System Settings > Security & Privacy > Search Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Getting Amazon Prime videos to work
On 12 August 2015 at 22:09, David King wrote: > I am having trouble getting Amazon Prime videos to work in Ubuntu. It's > Ubuntu Studio 14.04 with XFCE desktop. Can you give us a link to an example video? Colin > > I have tried it in Firefox, Chromium, Qupzilla, Opera, Vivaldi and Midori -- > it fails in all of them, including causing Midori to crash. However I got it > to work perfectly on a friend's laptop running Linux Mint 13. > > So I tried it in Linux Mint 17 in Virtual Box but that would not work. And > then in Linux Mint 13 in Virtual Box, which did not work until I updated > Firefox and installed Flash and then it worked perfectly. > > I know that some people get it working in Ubuntu (someone said they did in a > recent Ubuntu podcast, episode 21 of series 8, but did not say how) -- so > how can I get it to work in Ubuntu? > > I have got it working on my Raspberry Pi running OpenELEC/Kodi, but would be > great to have it running in Ubuntu on my PC as well. > > > David K > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] WIFI sending problem ....
On 12 August 2015 at 07:02, Barry Drake wrote: > On 11/08/15 21:22, Colin Law wrote: > >> What do you see in syslog when it disconnects? > > > Bless you Colin. Looks like a hardware problem, and I think I've cracked > it. Never thought to look at the syslog. Silly of me. Thanks. Glad to be of help Cheers Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] WIFI sending problem ....
On 11 August 2015 at 21:16, Barry Drake wrote: > Hi There ... Just about to go off for a couple of days with my netbook. > Haven't used it for a month or two. WIFI was just fine then. I'm running > 15.10. I did all the updates, and as always, copied the .thunderbird > directory over from my laptop. I got all the more recent messages just fine > BUT if I send a message, the WIFI connection is killed completely - only a > re-boot gets it back. I've tried two other email clients, with the same > result. I hope to receive emaile the next few days, but will not be able to > sent to the list, anything important, I can phone someone to reply to your > personal email address. > > First, how can I report this as a bug (what program - it is not confined to > a specific client). Second, anyone got any thoughts? I'm away for a > holiday in a few weeks, and will have to install a different OS for the time > being if there is no solution yet. What do you see in syslog when it disconnects? Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Looking for old computers
On 25 June 2015 at 10:11, Barry Drake wrote: > > If anyone comes up with a better option than Zorin, I'll get it! Have you tried ubuntu mate? I have found it good on old PCs Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Pre installed - HP 'standard images' 'may not work' WTF
On 7 June 2015 at 10:50, alan c wrote: > I was very interested in the HP laptops on EBuyer - Ubuntu pre installed. > '..HP ProBook 455 Notebook PC is powered by an AMD A10-7300 APU with AMD > Radeon™ R6 Graphics. ..' > http://www.ebuyer.com/705955-hp-455-quad-core-laptop-l8b56es > > then I came across the caviat on the official certification site > == > 2) Standard images of Ubuntu may not work at all on the system or may not > work well, though Canonical and computer manufacturers will try to certify > the system with future standard releases of Ubuntu. > == > Mmm. Not so keen now. > > I dont mind mmc cards not working or some specific slowness, but 'Standard > images of Ubuntu may not work at all' For heavens sakes? > Looks like a no deal, and something of a poison pill? My interpretation of that would be that the system will work as supplied but if you replaced the supplied system with a standard Ubuntu one there is no guarantee. I don't see that is unreasonable. One cannot expect them to guarantee that the machine will work with all future versions of Ubuntu any more than if you buy a Windows machine it is guaranteed to work with all future versions of Windows. You are still better off than buying one without Ubuntu pre-installed, as that is not guaranteed to work at all with Ubuntu. However I think I would want one with 14.04 not 12.04. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying installation problem ....
On 6 June 2015 at 15:47, Barry Drake wrote: > On 06/06/15 14:40, Colin Law wrote: > >> I that case perhaps, as I suggested, you did not tell the installer to >> use sdb for boot. > > > As Ubuntu is now so quick and easy to install, I popped a spare 80GiB drive > into my caddy, and repeated the exact procedure to install onto sdc (the > 80GiB drive). > 1) Boot from DVD. > 2) Select 'Install Ubuntu' from the first partition. > 3) Followed defaults after selecting 'Erase disk and install Ubuntu', and > selecting sdc as the disk to be erased. > At no point was there anything to ask where I wanted grub to go. I think > this can only be done from the manual install screen. As on the second > occasion, there was no message about the boot not being compatible with > legacy BIOS. Is it possible, on your first attempt, that before selecting the erase all option you had gone into the "Something Else" option and selected sdb as the boot loader destination? Unfortunately I have not got a spare machine at the moment and don't want to go past the Erase Disk option in case I accidentally erase my working system. When you go onto the page where you select which disc to erase is there nothing about boot loader destination? Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying installation problem ....
On 6 June 2015 at 15:47, Barry Drake wrote: > On 06/06/15 14:40, Colin Law wrote: > >> I that case perhaps, as I suggested, you did not tell the installer to >> use sdb for boot. > > > As Ubuntu is now so quick and easy to install, I popped a spare 80GiB drive > into my caddy, and repeated the exact procedure to install onto sdc (the > 80GiB drive). > 1) Boot from DVD. > 2) Select 'Install Ubuntu' from the first partition. > 3) Followed defaults after selecting 'Erase disk and install Ubuntu', and > selecting sdc as the disk to be erased. > At no point was there anything to ask where I wanted grub to go. I think > this can only be done from the manual install screen. As on the second > occasion, there was no message about the boot not being compatible with > legacy BIOS. > > After the requested restart at the end of the installation, grub had been > installed and updated to sda, and showed Mint, and the two installations of > Ubuntu (the one on sdb and the one on sdc). sdc itself had not been made > bootable. >> >> >> That does not explain why it would not boot off sdb the first time, >> but it is may be too late to work that out now. > > > It is also very difficult to understand why there were two differences in > behaviour from the same DVD. On the first installation, I was taken to a > grub screen to select Live DVD, installation or OEM installation. The second > and third time, I did not get this, or the subsequent warning about no > compatibility with legacy BIOS. I have not got a Wily install DVD so cannot check at the moment. Immediately on booting from the DVD do you get, for a few seconds, a picture of a man and keyboard at the bottom of screen? If so what happens if you immediately hit a key? Will come back to the other issues. I think I will have to download Wily, which takes several hours on my slow broadband :( See below also. > The disk is read only, and finalised. I > can't think where the installer might have stored the new information ... > The reason I am asking all this is because I understand so little about the > installer itself - It's wonderful unless you have more than one disk drive > available. > > I always follow the installation defaults whenever I install the testing > version, as I assume that is what the majority of folk will do. That way, > hopefully, problems I find will be similar for most folk. I suppose I could > burn a fresh DVD and do another fresh install to sdc to see what happens, > but if the information is not on the DVD, I guess the same would happen as > before. > > Back to me real question - how can I report this strange behaviour? I do > regard it as a bug. I think first it is worth while working out exactly what happened, but when you get round to it I believe you should run from the DVD and then ubuntu-bug ubiquity See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage > > > Regards,Barry. > -- > http://barrydrake.co.nr/ > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying installation problem ....
On 6 June 2015 at 14:24, Barry Drake wrote: > ... > When I decided to re-install, everything was the same as before, but the > warning did not appear at all. Grub was installed to sda only, and sdb was > not at that time made bootable. I that case perhaps, as I suggested, you did not tell the installer to use sdb for boot. That does not explain why it would not boot off sdb the first time, but it is may be too late to work that out now. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying installation problem ....
On 6 June 2015 at 12:11, Barry Drake wrote: > On 06/06/15 11:50, Colin Law wrote: > >> You did not answer the other questions on my previous post. Apologies >> if that is because you still have to sort out the answers. I thought >> I had better say in case you had missed the questions. > > > Sorry Colin . I saw all the questions - the fact is I did not boot from > the grub menu which was normally used to boot in the manner stated. During > installation, I had booted directly from the DVD. Please ask me which part > of the question I had not answered. The BIOS boot setting was set to sda, > but this was not used when booting the live DVD for installation. > > During the running of the live DVD, neither sda nor sdb were mounted until > the installer mounted sdb and re-formatted it. Copying from my previous post (with minor adjustments for clarification): > I was > installing to sdb, following all the defaults for reformatting and using the > entire drive. Mint was (is) on sda. On completing the installation, sdb > would not boot, although it had what looked like a valid boot installation > on a 510 Mb FAT32 boot partition. Nor had sda had an update to grub. I > really can't see why it had messed up what it ought to have done with the > boot/grub process on sdb. How were you trying to boot off sdb (when it "would not boot")? What exactly happened when you tried? You should not have expected the grub on sda to be updated, as if I understand correctly what you did that should not have affected sda at all. > > Neither can I see why it handled the re-installation differently. Basically, > the installer doesn't seem to be able to handle systems with more than one > bootable hard drive very intuitively. The second installation did not make > sdb bootable at all! It re-installed grub to sda, and did an update-grub to > that drive. I had to install grub manually to sdb and do an update to that > drive to make it bootable. I find it most curious! Are you sure you selected sdb as the drive to put grub on? I think it may default to sda, but not sure. Perhaps that is the difference between the first and second goes. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying installation problem ....
On 6 June 2015 at 11:27, Barry Drake wrote: > On 06/06/15 11:07, Colin Law wrote: >> >> On 6 June 2015 at 10:32, Barry Drake wrote: >>> >>> On 06/06/15 08:31, Colin Law wrote: >> >> >> I don't think 'sda' is a valid answer to all the questions, notably:> >> As originally setup how did you select which system to boot from? Did >> you tell the BIOS to boot off one disk or the other, or did you get a >> grub menu that allowed you to select which one? > > > During installation, I used the BIOS boot menu to boot from a DVD. This is > not the BIOS default, which I had at that time set to boot from sda. Both > sda and sdb had a boot sector with grub installed. The grub menu on both > had been configured to allow booting from either of the two operating > systems. In this case, I had booted straight from the DVD so the > installation should not have detected any extraneous information. You did not answer the other questions on my previous post. Apologies if that is because you still have to sort out the answers. I thought I had better say in case you had missed the questions. Cheers Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying installation problem ....
On 6 June 2015 at 10:32, Barry Drake wrote: > On 06/06/15 08:31, Colin Law wrote: > >> Assuming the drives were sda and sdb which is which? >> As originally setup how did you select which system to boot from? Did >> you tell the BIOS to boot off one disk or the other or did you get a >> grub menu that allowed you to select which one? >> If it was the latter then which drive did it actually boot from to >> give you the grub menu (as setup in BIOS)? > > > Thanks Colin The answer to all three questions is sda. I don't think 'sda' is a valid answer to all the questions, notably: As originally setup how did you select which system to boot from? Did you tell the BIOS to boot off one disk or the other, or did you get a grub menu that allowed you to select which one? > I was > installing to sdb, following all the defaults for reformatting and using the > entire drive. Mint was (is) on sda. On completing the installation, sdb > would not boot, although it had what looked like a valid boot installation > on a 510 Mb FAT32 boot partition. Nor had sda had an update to grub. I > really can't see why it had messed up what it ought to have done with the > boot/grub process on sdb. How were you trying to boot of sdb? What exactly happened when you tried? You should not have expected the grub on sda to be updated, as if I understand correctly what you did that should not have affected sda at all. > > Neither can I see why it handled the re-installation differently. Basically, > the installer doesn't seem to be able to handle systems with more than one > bootable hard drive very intuitively. The second installation did not make > sdb bootable at all! It re-installed grub to sda, and did an update-grub to > that drive. I had to install grub manually to sdb and do an update to that > drive to make it bootable. I find it most curious! Are you sure you selected sdb as the drive to put grub on? I think it may default to sda, but not sure. Perhaps that is the difference between the first and second goes. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Annoying installation problem ....
On 6 June 2015 at 08:20, Barry Drake wrote: > Hi there I had a most annoying problem when installing the testing > version of Wily - 15.10. I have two internal drives. One currently has > Mint installed, and the other had 15.04 testing in use until I installed > 15.10. > > Following the defaults, the installer warned me that it wanted to install a > boot partition and that this might not support a legacy BIOS boot that it > had detected on another installation. It gave me no alternative but a > manual partitioning. I followed the defaults. The result was that the > drive with Ubuntu on would not boot. I had to boot into Mint and do > 'update-grub' in order to make it bootable from the other drive. After > trying to install a legacy boot partition to the Ubuntu drive, I ended up > with so many problems that I re-installed 15.10. This time, I was not asked > the same question, and the install took place with no separate boot > partition and behaved the way it previously had on earlier versions. To understand the problem further, some questions. Assuming the drives were sda and sdb which is which? As originally setup how did you select which system to boot from? Did you tell the BIOS to boot off one disk or the other or did you get a grub menu that allowed you to select which one? If it was the latter then which drive did it actually boot from to give you the grub menu (as setup in BIOS)? Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preference for wifi hotspot to home router
On 29 May 2015 at 10:46, wrote: > I have a particularly annoying incidence where my neighbour has installed a > BT router and since then we often get our ubuntu install giving the BT > hotspot priority over out TalkTalk router, despite that our router has the > setting to connect to when in range and there is no link to bt routers in > the past. Is it best to find the mac address of the neighbour and block it > or something else? I would rather not block BT routers in case I use home > router access at other's homes using their home (not hotspot) access. I think the following should stop it connecting automatically: Click on the network icon in the top panel, then Edit Connections Select the BT wifi connection and click Edit On the General tab make sure "Automatically connect to this network" is not checked. Colin > Many Thanks > Adrian > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Clock settings greyed out
On 27 May 2015 at 09:09, Dianne wrote: > Running Ubuntu 14.04 LTS. Today my clock doesn't show in my menu bar, > settings on clock tab are all OK but greyed out. Time is set to auto from > internet, and I can change settings on this tab OK. I'm sure it was OK > yesterday! No updates to system yesterday, though I've had quite a few over > the previous few days, and I'm sure clock displayed OK since those updates. That is likely this (intermittent) bug. Logout/in usually sorts it. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/1244285 Colin > > Thanks for any advice, > Dianne > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Issues packaging software
On 3 May 2015 at 20:55, Gareth France wrote: > My brain still hurts from figuring out everything I have done so far. I'd > rather not have to start again if I can at all help it. As you say there > will be a correct way to do this and I would hope that being pointed to that > correct way I would be able to do so with the tools I am already using. I > shall keep this message highlighted but I'd like to hold off looking at this > sword thing for as long as possible, it sounds like it might just be the > straw that broke the camel's back! I thought you had got over the problem that Barry is addressing. That was the debian/source/format:3.0 (quilt) was it not? No-one has replied to my suggestion that the answer to the path problem is to install the s/w in /opt and put a link to the program in /usr/bin/. That is the way that teamviewer does it, for example $ ls /opt/teamviewer9/ config doc logfiles tv_bin $ ls -l /usr/bin/teamviewer lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 41 Sep 4 2014 /usr/bin/teamviewer -> /opt/teamviewer9/tv_bin/script/teamviewer The question is whether that satisfies the rules or not. Colin > > > On 03/05/15 20:52, Barry Drake wrote: >> >> On 03/05/15 20:04, Gareth France wrote: >>> >>> As most people are now well aware I'm desperate to be able to work out >>> GUI programming, but it does not seem to be my fate. There must be a >>> correct way to submit a commercial command line only program. It is >>> virtually useless if each user must be taught to use the full path each >>> time. >> >> >> Gareth - I'm away from my main computer at the moment and don't have all >> the stuff with me. This is the critical patch from the Sword library >> package. I is a copy of Dmitri's original from an earlier Sword Debian >> package. I do remember not being able to get it to work properly until >> I was told to use the chroot version of Debian. I spent many frustrated >> hours trying. There is no gui in the Sword engine - it's pure library >> binary stuff with the odd commanline program - and it was just fine. >> Your program does not need to be gui - it just needs to put stuff where >> Debian/Ubuntu allows it. pbuilder under debootstrap is very strict, and >> gives a lot more error messages. >> >> >> > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Issues packaging software
On 3 May 2015 at 12:01, Alan Pope wrote: > On 3 May 2015 at 11:36, Gareth France wrote: >> There is no point in botching it to make it work as that's not really an >> instruction I can expect anyone downloading it to have to follow. >> >> Will the packaging moderators be happy with me installing to /usr/local? >> > > It will be rejected if you do. > > https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/publish/other-forms-of-submitting-apps/packaging-commercial-apps-part-2-packaging-software-additional-notes/ > > "Submitting for inclusion > > Basic DOs and Dont's for packaging for Commercial Applications > > DOs > > Please use /opt// as your application root directory" I see some apps install a link to the application binary from /usr/bin. Is that the recommended approach? Colin > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Issues packaging software
On 28 April 2015 at 08:22, Gareth France wrote: > If it were clear how to do this then I would most certainly have done so. In > practice I may have or I may have not. I have followed as much of the > process as makes sense. Please don't top post, thanks. Are you saying you do not know how to test that the package installs and runs on a clean install? Colin > > On 28/04/15 08:19, Alan Pope wrote: >> >> The idea is that you test the package yourself before submission rather >> than use the publishing process for support and QA. >> >> Have you successfully built a Debian package from your config and >> installed it on a clean machine or VM. You should do that and confirm >> that the files deployed go in the right place and the package follows >> the packaging guidelines before uploading it. >> > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Local IP Address Allocation
On 29 March 2015 at 23:29, Nigel Verity wrote: > Hi > > Just a minor question about local networking > > I routinely have a number of different devices connected to my home network > such as Ubuntu laptops, iPad, Android phone, Kindle, RPi and so on. The > router allocates local IP addresses to them as and when they connect. > Although those IP addresses are always within a very narrow range > (192.168.1.1 -> 12) they are not fixed. > > Is it normally possible to set a general purpose router to recognise a given > device and always allocate the same local IP address to it? If your router does not provide the ability to lock a device to a specific IP address then, if you need this, one option is to configure each PC with its address (via Network Manager on each PC if using NM). If you do this then make sure the addresses you choose are outside the range of addresses that router is set up to allocate automatically. However, in case you did not know, Ubuntu provides the ability to reference devices by host name using host_name.local. So, for example, if you have named a pc called tigger, then from another machine you can do ping tigger.local so it may be that you do not need fixed ip addresses. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wine bug - new package?
On 30 March 2015 at 00:22, James Morrissey wrote: > > > On 25 March 2015 at 08:28, Tony Pursell wrote: >> >> There is a ppa for up-to-date Wine versions, if you can enable it in Mint. >> >> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ubuntu/ppa >> > > Doesn't seem to fix the problem mentioned in the bugs offered by Barry: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine1.6/+bug/1414995 > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine1.6/+bug/1383214 According to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine1.6/+bug/1383214 (comment #4) it was fixed in wine 1.7.20. The ppa has 1.7.38. Is it not fixed in that? What does apt-cache policy wine show for you when you have updated from the ppa? Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Wine bug - new package?
On 25 March 2015 at 09:53, Barry Drake wrote: > Hi ...I'm currently using Mint more than Ubuntu because of the need for > Windows apps installed under Wine. The bug I reported way back, that Wine > cannot be made to open Microsoft .msi files, was fixed way back. If any of > you are in touch with the Wine packagers for Ubuntu, you might mention that > the package containing the fix had not appeared in 15.04 as of yesterday. > It would be great if it found its way in before release date (and I can get > back to using Ubuntu all the time! Can you provide more details of the "package containing the fix". Is that a specific version of wine or what? Also the link to the relevant bugs might be useful. Thanks Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] USB 3.0 HDD Problem
On 9 March 2015 at 00:54, Nigel Verity wrote: > Hi > > I've just discovered that Ubuntu Mate 14.10 appears unable to mount a USB > 3.0 HDD (through a USB 2 port). It can mount a USB 2 HDD no problem. Both > are formatted as ext4. What do you see in syslog when you plug it in? > > I've repeated the installation/test on 2 different machines with the same > result, and the USB 3.0 drive in question mounts OK on Mint 17 so I don't > think it's a hardware fault per se. Is that on the same PC? What do you see in syslog in that case? Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Rhinosupport tickets [was 14.04.1 to 14.04.2?]
On 20 February 2015 at 09:45, Alan Pope wrote: > Spammer, removed and blocked from the list. OK, thanks. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
[ubuntu-uk] Rhinosupport tickets [was 14.04.1 to 14.04.2?]
Can anybody tell me why I have been getting these message (see below) when I reply to questions here? Colin -- Forwarded message -- From: Power Pro Date: 20 February 2015 at 09:03 Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] 14.04.1 to 14.04.2? To: Colin Law Your Ticket Re: [ubuntu-uk] 14.04.1 to 14.04.2? Has Been Submitted View the Complete Ticket at: http://powerpro.rhinosupport.com/?user=PhwJ6aNnJh&ticket=KEFMJCVMQG Hi Colin, We just wanted to let you know that your ticket (KEFMJCVMQG) has been submitted and you should be hearing back from us shortly. Please feel free to let us know if you have any issues. Sincerely, Support To view your ticket please go to: http://powerpro.rhinosupport.com/?user=PhwJ6aNnJh&ticket=KEFMJCVMQG On 20 February 2015 at 08:13, mac wrote: > Forgive my ignorance, but my 14.04.1 installation is humming along nicely, and I'm assuming that all important security and bug fixes have been happening during routine updates. Is there any need for me to upgrade to 14.04.2? (Looks like this only happens if you install from downloaded media?) There is no need to re-install. Provided you have installed all the updates available you will have all the stuff in 14.04.2. In fact it is likely that you are already ahead of 14.04.2 as that must have been frozen a short while ago so will not include any updates since then. Therefore a re-install would take you backwards. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] 14.04.1 to 14.04.2?
On 20 February 2015 at 08:13, mac wrote: > Forgive my ignorance, but my 14.04.1 installation is humming along nicely, > and I'm assuming that all important security and bug fixes have been > happening during routine updates. Is there any need for me to upgrade to > 14.04.2? (Looks like this only happens if you install from downloaded media?) There is no need to re-install. Provided you have installed all the updates available you will have all the stuff in 14.04.2. In fact it is likely that you are already ahead of 14.04.2 as that must have been frozen a short while ago so will not include any updates since then. Therefore a re-install would take you backwards. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Exposure
On 15 February 2015 at 17:00, Sharif Shown wrote: > I don't know...? You don't know what? Colin > > On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 8:38 PM, alan c wrote: >> >> On 15/02/15 12:57, Sheila Farmer wrote: >> > Hi , >> > My name is Sheila Farmer, I am a friend of the Professor Mike and his >> > machine, I have cured malignant brain cancer, my book is soon to be >> > serialised in the National Tabloids, called Blue Rooms >> > www.sheilamfarmer.com, Your party is mentioned in it, you will get extreme >> > exposure from it. The content of the book was censored but I have found a >> > way around it. If you would like to talk to me let me know. >> > Thanks Sheila Farmer. Michael Tellinger for president. >> >> Hi Sheila >> Nice to hear from you, although I think there is a misunderstanding here. >> For the benefit of others on this discussion list, I should say that I >> guess you see the name 'Ubuntu', and go from there? This is >> specifically a technical discussion list relating to a software, >> Ubuntu. It is well established and in worldwide use, and is based upon >> components which are strongly community based (of programmers, >> developers) volunteers, in the true spirit of Ubuntu. The name was >> well chosen by the founder of this brand of software, who is South >> African. The software is free of charge to get and use, and as far as >> possible in a commercial world we have, it comprises open code with as >> little as possible kept secretive. >> Background: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop >> >> I do occasionally look into Michael Tellinger's activities, including >> his recent political initiatives (Ubuntu Party? in South Africa?) and >> I wish him well. I very much hope your publishing venture also go >> well. Best regards >> >> (If you have questions re the Ubuntu software I will be happy to try >> to answer them. By all means contact me at my email >> aecl...@candt.waitrose.com ) >> -- >> alan cocks >> >> -- >> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Computer restarts on shutdown
On 3 February 2015 at 15:14, James Morrissey wrote: > Thanks, i can only look at this during my evenings (i am currently in the > US). > > On 3 February 2015 at 07:09, Stuart Ward wrote: >> >> >> On 3 February 2015 at 04:35, James Morrissey >> wrote: >>> >>> I am trying to do this, but it is difficult to identify when the shutdown >>> begin (because messages are being printed to this all the time). Can anyone >>> tell me how i can identify this process, so that i can compare relevant >>> outputs for both processes (successful and unsuccessful shutdowns)? >> >> >> Use the command >> >> $ logger "shutdown started"; sudo shutdown -h now > > > Are you saying that if i use this command, an entry in the log will be > generated stating 'shutdown started'? So i can just ctrl + f for that and > that will indicate the start of the shutdown sequence? Yes, good idea Stuart. However, as I said previously, if your log is continually being written to then look at that problem first. It may be related to the shutdown problem and should be easier to analyse. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Computer restarts on shutdown
On 3 February 2015 at 04:35, James Morrissey wrote: > Hi Colin, > > Thanks for getting back to me. > > On 1 February 2015 at 16:43, Colin Law wrote: >> ... >> Try it with a normal shutdown and a failed one and see if there are >> any obvious differences. The order of messages will vary from time to >> time as they come from multiple threads so it can be tricky to find >> differences. > > > I am trying to do this, but it is difficult to identify when the shutdown > begin (because messages are being printed to this all the time). Can anyone > tell me how i can identify this process, so that i can compare relevant > outputs for both processes (successful and unsuccessful shutdowns)? Do you mean messages are continually being written to /var/log? That should not be the case, you might expect to see a few messages each minute. If you run tail -f /var/log/syslog it will show you the log as it is added to. If that is continually being added to then there is something wrong so I would investigate that first. If it is so then post a couple of dozen messages from the end of the log (after the machine has booted and been allowed to settle for a couple of minutes. Most, if not all, messages in the log should have a timestamp at the start. so if you run the tail, note the timestamps at the end of the log and then initiate the power down you can find where the power down started. You can identify the start of the power up from kernel messages starting with Feb 3 08:25:23 tigger kernel: [0.00] The number is [] is the time since the kernel started. The first few messages of the restart will preceed the first of the kernel messages. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Computer restarts on shutdown
On 1 February 2015 at 20:47, James Morrissey wrote: > Hi all, > > Following up on this again as the issue persists in 14.10. > > To recap: When i go to shutdown my system - through whatever means > (terminal, GUI etc.) - the system restarts. The issue only occurs if i have > suspended the system since last starting the machine. If i have not > suspended, everything shuts down fine. Does it actually shutdown and restart (so you see the BIOS startup screen) or does it just logout and back in again? Or possibly not even logout, just tries to logout, fails,and goes back to desktop. Have a look in /var/log/syslog to see if there are any clues. Note the time that you start to shutdown so you can find the right place in the log. Try it with a normal shutdown and a failed one and see if there are any obvious differences. The order of messages will vary from time to time as they come from multiple threads so it can be tricky to find differences. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Corporation tax submission issues
On 29 January 2015 at 10:40, Gareth France wrote: > Nope, I refuse to start using other people's machines when there is nothing > wrong with mine. Besides this is not your average form. I imagine many hours > of banging my head against the screen to complete it. Not really something I > can do in the library. There is no point refusing to do something if for you personally it is the best solution. Chopping off nose to spite one's face and so on comes to mind. I meant to print it at the library rather than filling it in there. I am just trying to help, not suggesting that the current situation is ideal. Apparently, though, with Adobe not publishing the format it makes it difficult, to say to least, for an open source solution. HMRC should not be using a format that requires proprietary software. > > To install Adobe Reader natively in Linux follow this article. > http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/10/adobe-reader-linux-download-pulled-website So has that worked around your problem? Colin > > On 29/01/15 10:37, Colin Law wrote: >> >> Good point. Does it display if you view it in Firefox or Chromium >> rather than downloading it? Likely not. You could put it on a usb >> stick and take it to your library or to a friend or someone with >> Windows and a printer. >> >> Does Adobe reader work under Wine I wonder. > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Corporation tax submission issues
On 29 January 2015 at 10:16, Gareth France wrote: > You seem to be missing the point. Look at the original post where I state > that instead of loading the form it loads an error message. > > If I were able to view the form in order to print it, I wouldn't need to > print it! Good point. Does it display if you view it in Firefox or Chromium rather than downloading it? Likely not. You could put it on a usb stick and take it to your library or to a friend or someone with Windows and a printer. Does Adobe reader work under Wine I wonder. Colin > > > On 29/01/15 10:06, Colin Law wrote: >> >> Presumably you could just print the form out and fill it in by hand. > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Corporation tax submission issues
On 29 January 2015 at 09:45, Gareth France wrote: > Unfortunately this is Corporation Tax and there doesn't appear to be any > other way to do this. It's a ridiculous system, so badly designed. Turns out > I now need to wait a week for them to post out a 6 digit number to me before > I can even start! Presumably you could just print the form out and fill it in by hand. Colin > > > On 29/01/15 09:43, Simon Greenwood wrote: >> >> I believe this is a proprietary component of Adobe Reader, I know the >> issue has been around for a long time as I think I came up against it >> the last time I tried to complete the CT form like this, six or seven >> years ago. Since then I've used a web service and it just works although >> why HMRC can't actually provide one themselves is a mystery. > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Corporation tax submission issues
On 28 January 2015 at 23:01, Tony Pursell wrote: > I have just tested filling out a form using Evince (aka Document Viewer) and > it seems to work OK, but only if you download the form. If the PDF form is > just open in Firefox you cannot fill out the form. > > The form I used was the N1 Claim Form from > http://hmctsformfinder.justice.gov.uk/HMCTS/GetForm.do?court_forms_id=338 > > Is there something special about Corporation Tax forms? Some pdf's with forms are ok, some are not. See the bug I linked to for more detail https://bugs.launchpad.net/poppler/+bug/321720 Colin > > Tony > > On 28 January 2015 at 21:58, Colin Law wrote: >> >> On 28 January 2015 at 21:24, Gareth France >> wrote: >> > Hooray for the OMGUbuntu website. I located their piece about the >> > removal of >> > Adobe Reader for Linux which included a link to the last version of it. >> > It >> > 'appears' to be working. >> > >> > Not exactly the ideal solution, it would be much nicer if both Adobe and >> > HMRC played nicely with the community. >> >> A complaint to HMRC would not go amiss. I believe there is supposed >> to be a policy of using open formats (reference anyone?). Can you >> supply a link to the page to download the form from? >> >> Colin >> >> > >> > On 28/01/15 21:15, Alan Pope wrote: >> >> >> >> Yes. You need Adobe Reader to fill the form in. Been that way for >> >> years. >> > >> > >> > -- >> > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >> > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ >> >> -- >> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ > -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Corporation tax submission issues
On 28 January 2015 at 21:24, Gareth France wrote: > Hooray for the OMGUbuntu website. I located their piece about the removal of > Adobe Reader for Linux which included a link to the last version of it. It > 'appears' to be working. > > Not exactly the ideal solution, it would be much nicer if both Adobe and > HMRC played nicely with the community. A complaint to HMRC would not go amiss. I believe there is supposed to be a policy of using open formats (reference anyone?). Can you supply a link to the page to download the form from? Colin > > On 28/01/15 21:15, Alan Pope wrote: >> >> Yes. You need Adobe Reader to fill the form in. Been that way for years. > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Corporation tax submission issues
On 28 January 2015 at 21:15, Alan Pope wrote: > On 28 January 2015 at 20:54, Gareth France > wrote: >> Does anyone have any idea why this is not working correctly? Will I have to >> install a different viewer to do this? In this day and age we really should >> not have to re-jig our computers every time we do something like this. Very >> poor design. >> > > Yes. You need Adobe Reader to fill the form in. Been that way for years. https://bugs.launchpad.net/poppler/+bug/321720 in case anyone is interested. Proprietary Adobe formats in the forms apparently, if I read it correctly. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Corporation tax submission issues
On 28 January 2015 at 20:54, Gareth France wrote: > I am currently about to prepare the first return for my limited company and > I'm finding the website you have to use for this is quite simply unusable. > It appears you have to download an interactive PDF and fill it out however > it simply loads the following message in the default reader: > > Please wait... > If this message is not eventually replaced by the proper contents of the > document, your PDF > viewer may not be able to display this type of document. I know there are/have been problems with some pdf documents with forms. Are you able to share the pdf document? Also which version of Ubuntu are you using and if, in the viewer, you select help about what does it say in the about box? Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problem with wine ....
On 27 January 2015 at 17:24, Barry Drake wrote: > On 27/01/15 17:14, Colin Law wrote: >> >> I might suggest that high horses are out of order when complaining about >> problems in an alpha release :) Colin > > > Oops! I hadn't realised I was giving that impression. Apologies to anyone > for my own misunderstanding. :( Perhaps I was being over-sensitive, I have been doing my best to help a particularly tedious user on a different list (not Ubuntu related) who seems to have great difficulty reading the attempts to help him carefully enough to take appropriate action, and that may have affected my reading of your posts. Cheers Colin > > Regards,Barry. > > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problem with wine ....
On 27 January 2015 at 15:51, Barry Drake wrote: > On 27/01/15 14:54, Colin Law wrote: >> >> In the working mint and the non-working ubuntu what do apt-cache policy >> wine and apt-cache policy wine1.6 and which msiexec show? Colin > > > I think you've got it Colin. The packages appeared to be the same, I hadn't > spotted the '4' and the '6' after 'ubuntu' in the name. This is what I get > from the above: > > barry@mint ~ $ apt-cache policy wine > wine: > Installed: 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu4 > Candidate: 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu4 > Version table: > *** 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu4 0 > 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe amd64 Packages > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > barry@mint ~ $ apt-cache policy wine1.6 > wine1.6: > Installed: 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu4 > Candidate: 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu4 > Version table: > *** 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu4 0 > 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe amd64 Packages > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > barry@mint ~ $ which msiexec > /usr/bin/msiexec > > barry@vivid:~$ apt-cache policy wine > wine: > Installed: 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu6 > Candidate: 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu6 > Version table: > *** 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu6 0 > 500 http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ vivid/universe amd64 Also it seems you are using Ubuntu 15.10 which is still in alpha (not even in beta), and is exactly the version in the bug report. There seems little doubt that you are seeing that bug. You should probably mark yours as a duplicate to save someone else that effort. I might suggest that high horses are out of order when complaining about problems in an alpha release :) Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problem with wine ....
On 27 January 2015 at 13:47, Barry Drake wrote: > On 27/01/15 12:42, Daniel Llewellyn wrote: >> >> you mentioned earlier in the thread that you successfully ran the >> installation on an copy of mint using the same ubuntu packages. Was that >> possibly using a different .wine directory? Have you tried against an >> entirely virgin .wine directory > > > Tried everything you suggest. Colin was spot on with his duplicate. I'd > tried looking for it but hadn't tried what he had tried. The duplicate > seems to assume the problem exists in wine. Mint, from scratch in a fresh > installation which I did yesterday uses the identical Ubuntu packages from > the Ubuntu repos. This is using 'sudo apt-get install wine' in the Mint > commandline. Same packages, identical directory structure - but one works, > the other doesn't. > > Thanks Colin. I've posted to > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine1.6/+bug/1383214 giving a bit > of the story and putting in a link to #1414995 In the working mint and the non-working ubuntu what do apt-cache policy wine and apt-cache policy wine1.6 and which msiexec show? Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problem with wine ....
On 27 January 2015 at 12:20, Barry Drake wrote: > On 27/01/15 11:53, Colin Law wrote: >> >> I see from the bug report that you have used the command wine msiexec -i >> ActivePython-2.7.8.10-win32-x86.msi What happens if you just use msiexec -i >> ActivePython-2.7.8.10-win32-x86.msi Colin > > Exactly the same happens. I think msiexec is becoming obsolete now. wine > [installer_name].msi works under up-to-date versions of wine. I think it's > left there as a legacy command. Here's what I get: > $ msiexec -i ActivePython-2.7.8.10-win32-x86.msi > err:msidb:get_tablecolumns column 1 out of range Googling for err:msidb:get_tablecolumns column 1 out of range msiexec took me straight to this bug, Yours may be a duplicate of it. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine1.6/+bug/1383214 Colin > err:msidb:get_tablecolumns column 2 out of range > fixme:storage:create_storagefile Storage share mode not implemented. > err:msidb:get_tablecolumns column 1 out of range > err:msidb:get_tablecolumns column 2 out of range > err:msidb:get_tablecolumns column 1 out of range > err:msidb:get_tablecolumns column 2 out of range > err:msidb:get_tablecolumns column 1 out of range > err:msidb:get_tablecolumns column 2 out of range > err:msidb:get_tablecolumns column 3 out of range > err:msidb:get_tablecolumns column 1 out of range > err:msidb:get_tablecolumns column 2 out of range > err:msidb:get_tablecolumns column 3 out of range > err:msidb:get_tablecolumns column 1 out of range > err:msidb:get_tablecolumns column 2 out of range > err:msidb:get_tablecolumns column 3 out of range > err:msidb:get_tablecolumns column 1 out of range > err:msidb:get_tablecolumns column 2 out of range > err:msidb:get_tablecolumns column 3 out of range > > Regards,Barry. > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Problem with wine ....
On 27 January 2015 at 11:45, Barry Drake wrote: > On 20/01/15 10:50, Barry Drake wrote: >> >> Hi there Some time ago, I mentioned that I could not install .msi >> files using wine. > > > I've reported this as a wine bug at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1414995 > > Please, please would somebody take five minutes to repeat and confirm this > bug. If you find any .msi file that loads, I owe you a pint! I see from the bug report that you have used the command wine msiexec -i ActivePython-2.7.8.10-win32-x86.msi What happens if you just use msiexec -i ActivePython-2.7.8.10-win32-x86.msi Colin > > Regards,Barry > > > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyobard issues in 14.10
On 18 January 2015 at 09:43, Barry Drake wrote: > On 18/01/15 09:15, Colin Law wrote: >> >> Also if that is the version of ibus then I deduce you are running Ubuntu >> 14.10, whereas the new ibus is for 14.04, so it won't help anyway. I don't >> know, but I suspect it may not be back ported for 14.10 as that will be >> superseded in a few months anyway. > > > One advantage of running the latest versions is that I get the updates > straight away. The keyboard problem seems to be well fixed in 15.10, and > although I rarely drop back to 15.04, I think it's fixed there too. It's > just so easy to re-install every six months, I don't know why anyone > struggles on with anything but the latest. 15? I think some are still seeing it in 14.10, it seems to be a timing related issue (or similar) so some see it and some don't. The bug report says it is fixed in 15.04 (ie the one currently in alpha release) and there is a fix in 'proposed' for 14.04, but no mention of 14.10, so I suspect it it still present there. Regards Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyobard issues in 14.10
On 17 January 2015 at 22:28, Gareth France wrote: > >> I don't use Thunderbird, but googling for >> thunderbird threaded view >> suggests that View > Sort by > Threaded may be it. >> >> Similarly I would have thought that googling for >> email inline reply >> would have quickly found http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style >> which explains. Though you can get a big clue from noting the way I >> have been replying, inserting it inline at appropriate point(s) so >> that it is easy for a reader to see what I am replying to. > > > > Apologies, I find these days that firstly I don't explore either hardware or > software like I used to when I was 14. There are so many things I don't know > how to do or have time to do any more. And secondly I'm finding my way of > working is becoming more and more antiquated, I can program but it seems > everyone else puts me to shame as I still program as if I'm using Qbasic! As > for inline posting it just seems like a lot more effort and an order of > magnitude slower to delete the bits that aren't needed and spread my reply > out over umpteen different locations in the mail. I'm just a bit of a > dinosaur. It may take you a little more time replying but it saves time for those reading your questions. Remember it is you asking for help so you should do everything you can to make life easier for those you are asking for help (who are volunteers remember). > > I've given up with the keyboard layout. I've lost the link to the bug again > and the version on my machine is Installed: 1.5.8-2ubuntu2. I'll just put up > with it until it fixes itself on an update. So you have lost the email I sent 1 hour before you posted the reply above? In the threaded view it should be in the thread a couple of emails up. Here it is again. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/ibus/+bug/1240198 Also if that is the version of ibus then I deduce you are running Ubuntu 14.10, whereas the new ibus is for 14.04, so it won't help anyway. I don't know, but I suspect it may not be back ported for 14.10 as that will be superseded in a few months anyway. > > The threaded view is a great improvement though. Thanks. I am glad something useful has been accomplished :) Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyobard issues in 14.10
On 17 January 2015 at 21:57, Gareth France wrote: > I have no idea how to set thunderbird to keep emails threaded and I don't > even know what posting a reply inline with the previous post means. Sorry. I don't use Thunderbird, but googling for thunderbird threaded view suggests that View > Sort by > Threaded may be it. Similarly I would have thought that googling for email inline reply would have quickly found http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style which explains. Though you can get a big clue from noting the way I have been replying, inserting it inline at appropriate point(s) so that it is easy for a reader to see what I am replying to. Colin > > > > On 17/01/15 21:34, Colin Law wrote: >> >> On 17 January 2015 at 21:00, Gareth France >> wrote: >>> >>> I know but due to the never ending tsunami of emails coming in (mostly >>> scams/junk) most things get deleted right away. >> >> >> Don't you keep your emails threaded so all these messages are >> together? If not then I highly recommend it. >> >> By the way, it is easier to follow the thread if you post your reply >> inline with previous post, which is the convention on this list. >> >> Colin >> > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyobard issues in 14.10
On 17 January 2015 at 21:26, Gareth France wrote: > I'm not sure how to check if it is installed to be honest, but it may be > done. To check which version is installed, open a terminal and run apt-cache policy ibus That will tell you which one is installed, it should say Installed: 1.5.5-1ubuntu3 Candidate: 1.5.5-1ubuntu3 The one in the Proposed repo is 1.5.5-1ubuntu3.1 Colin > > > > On 17/01/15 20:58, Colin Law wrote: >> >> On 17 January 2015 at 20:55, Gareth France >> wrote: >>> >>> Sorry but I have no idea where the bug is. >> >> >> I linked to it in my earlier post. >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/ibus/+bug/1240198 >> >> Colin >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 17/01/15 20:54, Colin Law wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 17 January 2015 at 20:49, Gareth France >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Not as yet, I've only just discovered the issue is still present. Where >>>>> do I >>>>> install it from please? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> See comment #70 in the bug, it links to instructions on the wiki on >>>> how to install a package from proposed. >>>> >>>> Colin >>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 17/01/15 20:48, Colin Law wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 17 January 2015 at 20:43, Gareth France >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have deleted all but the UK keyboard layout as suggested and all >>>>>>> was >>>>>>> well >>>>>>> until I rebooted. Now it is stuck in US layout which is still showing >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> installed. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Have you tried installing the new version of ibus? >>>>>> >>>>>> Colin >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ >> >> > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyobard issues in 14.10
On 17 January 2015 at 21:00, Gareth France wrote: > I know but due to the never ending tsunami of emails coming in (mostly > scams/junk) most things get deleted right away. Don't you keep your emails threaded so all these messages are together? If not then I highly recommend it. By the way, it is easier to follow the thread if you post your reply inline with previous post, which is the convention on this list. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyobard issues in 14.10
On 17 January 2015 at 20:55, Gareth France wrote: > Sorry but I have no idea where the bug is. I linked to it in my earlier post. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/ibus/+bug/1240198 Colin > > > > On 17/01/15 20:54, Colin Law wrote: >> >> On 17 January 2015 at 20:49, Gareth France >> wrote: >>> >>> Not as yet, I've only just discovered the issue is still present. Where >>> do I >>> install it from please? >> >> >> See comment #70 in the bug, it links to instructions on the wiki on >> how to install a package from proposed. >> >> Colin >> >>> >>> >>> On 17/01/15 20:48, Colin Law wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 17 January 2015 at 20:43, Gareth France >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have deleted all but the UK keyboard layout as suggested and all was >>>>> well >>>>> until I rebooted. Now it is stuck in US layout which is still showing >>>>> as >>>>> not >>>>> installed. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Have you tried installing the new version of ibus? >>>> >>>> Colin >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com >>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ >> >> > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyobard issues in 14.10
On 17 January 2015 at 20:49, Gareth France wrote: > Not as yet, I've only just discovered the issue is still present. Where do I > install it from please? See comment #70 in the bug, it links to instructions on the wiki on how to install a package from proposed. Colin > > > On 17/01/15 20:48, Colin Law wrote: >> >> On 17 January 2015 at 20:43, Gareth France >> wrote: >>> >>> I have deleted all but the UK keyboard layout as suggested and all was >>> well >>> until I rebooted. Now it is stuck in US layout which is still showing as >>> not >>> installed. >> >> >> Have you tried installing the new version of ibus? >> >> Colin >> > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyobard issues in 14.10
On 17 January 2015 at 20:43, Gareth France wrote: > I have deleted all but the UK keyboard layout as suggested and all was well > until I rebooted. Now it is stuck in US layout which is still showing as not > installed. Have you tried installing the new version of ibus? Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyobard issues in 14.10
On 17 January 2015 at 13:42, Barry Titterton wrote: > On 17/01/15 13:14, Colin Law wrote: >> >> On 17 January 2015 at 12:42, Gareth France >> wrote: >>> >>> I've been suffering from this since release day but it's driving me nuts >>> so >>> I have to speak out and see if anyone knows the solution. My machine >>> keeps >>> defaulting to the American keyboard layout. The icon in the taskbar >>> always >>> displays UK but the layout is wrong. I have to switch to American and >>> then >>> back to UK almost every time I boot up to resolve it. >> >> Sounds like this bug, a fixed version of ibus should be in the repos soon. >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/ibus/+bug/1240198 >> >> Colin >> > The Lubuntu distro has been suffering from ibus problems for quite a while. > It is nice to know that a fix is on the way. You can install it from the 'proposed' repo, instructions in one of the comments on the bug. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Keyobard issues in 14.10
On 17 January 2015 at 12:42, Gareth France wrote: > I've been suffering from this since release day but it's driving me nuts so > I have to speak out and see if anyone knows the solution. My machine keeps > defaulting to the American keyboard layout. The icon in the taskbar always > displays UK but the layout is wrong. I have to switch to American and then > back to UK almost every time I boot up to resolve it. Sounds like this bug, a fixed version of ibus should be in the repos soon. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/+source/ibus/+bug/1240198 Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] How old is your computer?
On 8 December 2014 at 12:42, George Tripp wrote: >>> I feel it's a pity that Canonical don't collaborate with a supplier > >>> to provide PC / laptops .. >> >> Why would installing Ubuntu invalidate the warantee? You can always >> restore Windows from the install CDs or whatever restore system is >> provided with the machine. >> > > In theory this is true by might not be possible depending on the on the > nature of the problem which has developed. > > However I think my point really is that it shouldn't be necessary to have to > pretend I'm using a different operating system in order to have the have > consumer rights. Installing Ubuntu will not change your consumer rights. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] How old is your computer?
On 6 December 2014 at 15:51, George Tripp wrote: > ... > I feel it's a pity that Canonical don't collaborate with a supplier to > provide PC / laptops which are definitely compatible with Ubuntu. I'd be a > potential customer. Although I have installed it on a variety of machines > over the years I still feel reluctant to spend £500 or so on something, > invalidate the warrantry and have no certainty that it will run the operating > system I'd like to use. Why would installing Ubuntu invalidate the warantee? You can always restore Windows from the install CDs or whatever restore system is provided with the machine. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Re-start wifi?
On 28 November 2014 at 11:11, Owen Branley wrote: > When I re-start my wifi connection is not active so I shutdown and reboot! > Why do I have to do this ? What do you mean by re-start? To me, re-starting the computer is the same as rebooting. Also what do you mean by not active? What do you see when you click on the network icon in the top panel. Also what version of Ubuntu? Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] unity doesn't load after kernel update?
On 28 November 2014 at 08:22, Alan Lord wrote: > On 26/11/14 12:00, Will Cooke wrote: >> >> >> Hi Alan, could you try resetting compiz's configuration: >> >> First "rm -rf ~/.compiz-1" if it exists >> Then run "gsettings reset-recursively >> org.compiz.core:/org/compiz/profiles/unity/ " >> >> Then reboot (or restart lightdm) and see if it makes any difference. > > > No joy I'm afraid. > > I ran those two commands (they returned silently so I guess they ran > correctly.) > > I rebooted and chose Unity from the greeter. > > No top bar and no launcher. If you logon as a different user (or guest) is it ok? That should indicate whether it is a system wide problem or user settings. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] unity doesn't load after kernel update?
On 26 November 2014 at 15:37, Alan Lord wrote: > On 26/11/14 15:31, Colin Law wrote: >> >> >> What settings have you changed? I wonder whether the fact that some >> settings are non-standard is a factor in the problem arising in the >> first place. I have never had to reset as far as I can remember, >> except when running beta versions once or twice. > > > Nothing I would think significant (or should be the cause of the problem > frankly). > > I mean adding my applications to the Launcher, changing the menu from the > one at the top to the one in the applications' window, showing the date as > well as the time in the calendar ... that sort of thing OK, understood. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] unity doesn't load after kernel update?
On 26 November 2014 at 13:03, Alan Lord wrote: > On 26/11/14 12:00, Will Cooke wrote: >> >> Hi Alan, could you try resetting compiz's configuration: >> >> First "rm -rf ~/.compiz-1" if it exists >> Then run "gsettings reset-recursively >> org.compiz.core:/org/compiz/profiles/unity/ " >> >> Then reboot (or restart lightdm) and see if it makes any difference. > > > Thanks Will, > > I'll try and do this later today (I am using my laptop for work right now - > gnome-fall-back is rather refreshing and quite usable) but can you tell me > if this will delete my personal settings for the Launcher and Unity before I > do? > >> I spoke to the Unity & Compiz maintainers, and they are looking to put >> back in a reset option to compiz to make this easier to fix, if indeed >> this does fix it. > > > This has happened to me a few times over the years for no obvious reason and > is a right PITA to get back as all my settings are invariably lost. What settings have you changed? I wonder whether the fact that some settings are non-standard is a factor in the problem arising in the first place. I have never had to reset as far as I can remember, except when running beta versions once or twice. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Reverse engineering data files
On 24 November 2014 at 08:03, Gareth France wrote: > I was led to believe by a rep of the company who makes these that this is > not the case. He was happily discussing with my other companies who have > done the same. Can't he let you have a copy of the format specification then? Colin > > > On 24/11/14 08:02, Alan Lord wrote: >> >> On 22/11/14 22:12, Gareth France wrote: >>> >>> >>> So my question is this, how does one go about accessing a file like this >>> when they do not know the format? I have worked with text based files, >>> CSV etc but never something which does not load in a text editor. >>> >> >> I'm sure you are already aware but just wanted to point out that you >> *might* be actually breaking a law or two depending on the way the >> software and data files are licensed etc... >> >> This is a public, and archived, mailing list. >> >> Al >> >> >> > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] HUD memory leak?
On 21 November 2014 17:28, Gareth France wrote: > interesting, however I only use chrome. Do you have a large number of bookmarks in Chrome? Colin > > > On 21/11/14 17:25, Alan Pope wrote: >> >> On 20 November 2014 20:42, Gareth France >> wrote: >>> >>> http://www.cliftonts.co.uk/pic1.png >>> http://www.cliftonts.co.uk/pic2.png >>> >>> I was rather surprised to see nearly the whole 8GB ram being used, over >>> 5GB >>> by the hud itself. >>> >>> So what's going on there I wonder? >> >> >> Probably https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hud/+bug/987060 >> > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bug report filed re screenshot problem
On 16 November 2014 16:47, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > On 16/11/14 16:42, Colin Law wrote: >> >> On 16 November 2014 16:11, Rowan Berkeley >> wrote: >>> >>> On 16/11/14 15:43, Colin Law wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 16 November 2014 14:35, Rowan Berkeley >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 16/11/14 14:32, Rowan Berkeley wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 16/11/14 14:27, Colin Law wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 16 November 2014 14:21, Rowan Berkeley >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screenshot/+bug/1393188 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is fglrx installed? To find out: >>>>>>> apt-cache policy fglrx >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Colin >>>>>>> >>>>>> Yes, it is. But if you are thinking of the bug we looked at yesterday, >>>>>> >>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-screenshot/+bug/1103847 >>>>>> >>>>>> This isn't it, because that one generates an error message and fails >>>>>> to >>>>>> perform screenshot, and mine doesn't do that, it performs screenshot, >>>>>> but with an old image. >>>>>> >>>>> Sorry, correction: that one does perform screenshot, but with an old >>>>> image, >>>>> just like mine. But that one generates an error message, and mine >>>>> doesn't. >>>>> That's the only difference. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I still think it would be worth uninstalling fglrx to see if it fixes >>>> it, it is a remarkable coincidence to get such an odd symptom. When I >>>> uninstalled it (for a different problem) it automatically fell back >>>> to the free driver and I don't notice any difference in performance >>>> (though I am not running graphics intensive games or similar). You >>>> can always re-install it again. >>>> >>>> Colin >>>> >>> I have found a couple of pages of instructions on how to do that: >>> >>> >>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/445758/uninstalling-previous-install-of-the-fglrx-driver >>> >>> >>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/68306/how-do-i-remove-the-proprietary-ati-drivers >>> >>> Any comments on those, please, to help me decide whether to pitch into >>> one >>> or another of them? >> >> >> No idea, sorry, I just uninstalled fglrx. Possibly that was not the >> right thing to do but it seemed to work for me. >> >> Colin >> > Well, how did you uninstall it? That is what those pages are about, how to > uninstall it. How did you do it. sudo apt-get purge fglrx if I remember correctly. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bug report filed re screenshot problem
On 16 November 2014 16:11, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > On 16/11/14 15:43, Colin Law wrote: >> >> On 16 November 2014 14:35, Rowan Berkeley >> wrote: >>> >>> On 16/11/14 14:32, Rowan Berkeley wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 16/11/14 14:27, Colin Law wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 16 November 2014 14:21, Rowan Berkeley >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screenshot/+bug/1393188 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Is fglrx installed? To find out: >>>>> apt-cache policy fglrx >>>>> >>>>> Colin >>>>> >>>> Yes, it is. But if you are thinking of the bug we looked at yesterday, >>>> >>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-screenshot/+bug/1103847 >>>> >>>> This isn't it, because that one generates an error message and fails to >>>> perform screenshot, and mine doesn't do that, it performs screenshot, >>>> but with an old image. >>>> >>> Sorry, correction: that one does perform screenshot, but with an old >>> image, >>> just like mine. But that one generates an error message, and mine >>> doesn't. >>> That's the only difference. >> >> >> I still think it would be worth uninstalling fglrx to see if it fixes >> it, it is a remarkable coincidence to get such an odd symptom. When I >> uninstalled it (for a different problem) it automatically fell back >> to the free driver and I don't notice any difference in performance >> (though I am not running graphics intensive games or similar). You >> can always re-install it again. >> >> Colin >> > I have found a couple of pages of instructions on how to do that: > > http://askubuntu.com/questions/445758/uninstalling-previous-install-of-the-fglrx-driver > > http://askubuntu.com/questions/68306/how-do-i-remove-the-proprietary-ati-drivers > > Any comments on those, please, to help me decide whether to pitch into one > or another of them? No idea, sorry, I just uninstalled fglrx. Possibly that was not the right thing to do but it seemed to work for me. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bug report filed re screenshot problem
On 16 November 2014 14:35, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > On 16/11/14 14:32, Rowan Berkeley wrote: >> >> On 16/11/14 14:27, Colin Law wrote: >>> >>> On 16 November 2014 14:21, Rowan Berkeley >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screenshot/+bug/1393188 >>> >>> >>> Is fglrx installed? To find out: >>> apt-cache policy fglrx >>> >>> Colin >>> >> Yes, it is. But if you are thinking of the bug we looked at yesterday, >> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-screenshot/+bug/1103847 >> >> This isn't it, because that one generates an error message and fails to >> perform screenshot, and mine doesn't do that, it performs screenshot, >> but with an old image. >> > Sorry, correction: that one does perform screenshot, but with an old image, > just like mine. But that one generates an error message, and mine doesn't. > That's the only difference. I still think it would be worth uninstalling fglrx to see if it fixes it, it is a remarkable coincidence to get such an odd symptom. When I uninstalled it (for a different problem) it automatically fell back to the free driver and I don't notice any difference in performance (though I am not running graphics intensive games or similar). You can always re-install it again. Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bug report filed re screenshot problem
On 16 November 2014 14:21, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screenshot/+bug/1393188 Is fglrx installed? To find out: apt-cache policy fglrx Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Screenshot: can't clear old image files, where are they
On 15 November 2014 13:42, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > > > On 15/11/14 13:38, Colin Law wrote: >> >> On 15 November 2014 12:50, Rowan Berkeley >> wrote: >>> >>> On 15/11/14 12:42, Colin Law wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 15 November 2014 12:13, Rowan Berkeley >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I have upgraded to 14:10, and picked up a bug or two along the way. >>>>> This >>>>> one >>>>> is a nuisance, because I use screenshots a lot on my blog. Every time I >>>>> try >>>>> to make a new screenshot, it just creates a new copy of an old one. >>>>> Therefore, it is storing them somewhere in a queue, and when I try to >>>>> make a >>>>> new one, it puts that at the bottom of the queue and offers me a fresh >>>>> edition of the snapshot that is stuck at the top. Or a selection from >>>>> several that are stuck there, but never the new one. The official >>>>> location >>>>> for all screenshots is set by me as the desktop, and I have repeatedly >>>>> deleted everything on there, including hidden files. These things must >>>>> be >>>>> stored somewhere else. So where are they all, so that I can clear them, >>>>> and >>>>> perhaps find some way of preventing them from accumulating like this >>>>> again? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> When you click on print screen (if that is how you are taking a >>>> snapshot) what does it show for Save in Folder? >>>> >>>> Colin >>>> >>> >>> I haven't been using Print Screen, I have been using the Screenshot >>> application, because I always want to select an area by hand. But it is >>> interesting that the Print Screen command always reverts the destination >>> folder to Pictures, no matter how often I try to change it to Desktop. >>> But >>> this doesn't really solve my problem. I can find the resulting image >>> file, >>> whether it is in Desktop or in Pictures. the trouble is, it is not the >>> present screen, but an old one, stored somewhere and regurgitated >>> repeatedly. So the question must be, where? >> >> >> Just to clarify, are you saying that if you hit printscreen, enter a >> filename, select an appropriate folder, and hit save, that it saves a >> file where requested, with the correct name, but with the wrong >> contents? >> >> Colin >> > yep. old contents. If you run, in a terminal gnome-screenshot do you see an error something like ** (gnome- screenshot:5026): WARNING **: Unable to use GNOME Shell's builtin screenshot interface, resorting to fallback X11. Error: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.gnome.Shell was not provided by any .service files If so then perhaps it is this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-screenshot/+bug/1103847 Colin > > > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
Re: [ubuntu-uk] Screenshot: can't clear old image files, where are they
On 15 November 2014 12:50, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > On 15/11/14 12:42, Colin Law wrote: >> >> On 15 November 2014 12:13, Rowan Berkeley >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have upgraded to 14:10, and picked up a bug or two along the way. This >>> one >>> is a nuisance, because I use screenshots a lot on my blog. Every time I >>> try >>> to make a new screenshot, it just creates a new copy of an old one. >>> Therefore, it is storing them somewhere in a queue, and when I try to >>> make a >>> new one, it puts that at the bottom of the queue and offers me a fresh >>> edition of the snapshot that is stuck at the top. Or a selection from >>> several that are stuck there, but never the new one. The official >>> location >>> for all screenshots is set by me as the desktop, and I have repeatedly >>> deleted everything on there, including hidden files. These things must be >>> stored somewhere else. So where are they all, so that I can clear them, >>> and >>> perhaps find some way of preventing them from accumulating like this >>> again? >> >> >> When you click on print screen (if that is how you are taking a >> snapshot) what does it show for Save in Folder? >> >> Colin >> > > I haven't been using Print Screen, I have been using the Screenshot > application, because I always want to select an area by hand. But it is > interesting that the Print Screen command always reverts the destination > folder to Pictures, no matter how often I try to change it to Desktop. But > this doesn't really solve my problem. I can find the resulting image file, > whether it is in Desktop or in Pictures. the trouble is, it is not the > present screen, but an old one, stored somewhere and regurgitated > repeatedly. So the question must be, where? Just to clarify, are you saying that if you hit printscreen, enter a filename, select an appropriate folder, and hit save, that it saves a file where requested, with the correct name, but with the wrong contents? Colin -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/
