Re: [Zappa-List] 404 / was - Nassau 88 reoffer

2004-09-18 Thread SOFA





Dennis has probably moved the page; I have removed the link and replaced it 
with two that are more FZ related.
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jim 
  L 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 3:07 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] 404 / was - 
  Nassau 88 reoffer
  
  One of the best 404's I've ever 
  seen though. lol 
  
  That link did work a while back 
  after SOFA fixed it. 
  
  
  Jim L 
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marion 
  O 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 1:40 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Nassau 88 reoffer
  
  
  You know of course that the link below is a 404?
  [EMAIL PROTECTED][Zappa-List] 
  Nassau 88 reoffer
  

  


  
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Re: [Zappa-List] Feb 3 1977 Pavilion de Paris (long)

2004-09-28 Thread SOFA





That's a good question and I suppose it is possible...
But I bought the vinyl boot in a used record store in Japan in '79. DAT 
didn't come out on the market until '86 or so, right?. I sorta have my doubts 
that it's the same source- but who knows? It could be...
Interesting.
BTW, tho' I agree with all of the comments regarding this boot, my favorite 
part is the brief Beach Boys nod in the end of BHAFA. "Little poop shoot" 
indeed.
SOFA

  I've been 
  thinking about this show the last couple of days.Is the source for the 
  vinyl boot and the dat tape the same or different 
?Best,Glen


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Re: [Zappa-List] Normal Life - w/ Zappa Kids Cindy Williams

2004-10-25 Thread SOFA





Actually, Cindy played Shirley Feeney - and why am I suddenly ashamed I 
know that?
Not too interested in the kin, personally, tho I do think the Dweez can 
tear it up on guitar.
SOFA
Did 
  anyone watch or tape this show starring Dweezil  Moon Cindy Willimas 
  (LaVerne) when it was on TV for a short time? Is this anything collectors 
  are interested in?


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Re: [Zappa-List] Such A Lovely Christian

2004-10-27 Thread SOFA





FZ flipped it more aesthetically, IMO...

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Re: [Zappa-List] FloEddie vine - are you interested

2004-10-30 Thread SOFA





Hey Carston!
I'm interested (love Flo  Eddie)... I will mail you off-list with my 
addy.
Oooops! Not quick enough...
Larry?
Warm regards,
SOFA
HiI 
  have two FloEddie shows - "11/19/76 Cobo Hall, Detroit, Open 
  ForZappa" and "79-07-16" downloaded from easytree.If anyone is 
  interested, I'll start a vine. sned me an e-mail 
off-list.


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Re: [Zappa-List] Who do you really think will win? Gamble on theelection?

2004-10-30 Thread SOFA
Title: Re: [Zappa-List] Who do you really think will win? Gamble on the election?





Is there any wonder why I love this guy?
Well said, Bro...
SOFA

PS Hey Mark, any new sketches in the works?

  Multinational corporations.MarkWho would you put your money on to win?Jim L 
  


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Re: [Zappa-List] OKC 12-6-84 Vine sent to Glen and SOFA

2004-11-02 Thread SOFA





With grateful appreciation to Chris, I am able to offer this two disk show 
up to the first to contact me off-list with a snail addy:

6-Dec 1984, Civic Center Music Hall, Oklahoma City, OK116 min, Aud, 
A-/B+FZ, Ike Willis, Ray White, Scott Thunes, Chad Wackerman, Alan Zavod, 
Bobby Martin,101Intro, Teenage Wind, 102Truck Driver Divorce, 103My 
Guitar Wants To Kill Your Mama, 104Willie The Pimp, 105Montana, 
106Easy Meat, 107Brown Moses, 108Moggio, What's New In Baltimore?, 
109In France, 201Drowning Witch, 202Black Page #2, 203Lucille 
Has Messed My Mind Up, 204Cocaine Decisions, 205Nig Biz, 
206Bamboozled By Love, 207Joe's Garage, 208Why Does It Hurt When I 
Pee?, 209Caravan (with a drum solo), 210More Trouble Every Day, 
211Penguin In Bondage, 212Hot Plate Heaven At The Green Hotel, 
213Dinah-Moe Humm, 214Whippin' Post

This is a nice, crisp sounding show; good quality for an audience tape. 
Near the end of the '84 tour, the band was tight. How dim the moon was, I can't 
say.
Regards,
SOFA


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[Zappa-List] 841206 OKC show Vine Closed

2004-11-02 Thread SOFA





Mark Darling of Michigan won this one; look for him to re-offer soon!
Regards,
SOFA


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Re: [Zappa-List] size of artwork images

2004-11-03 Thread SOFA





Hmmm...
I've always been told it's not how big it is, it's what you do with 
it.
But that probably doesn't help much...
SOFA

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  Subject: [Zappa-List] size of artwork 
  images
  HiHow can I download all the great artwork 
  images in their original size? All the ones I've tried to download have 
  been way too small.K 
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Re: [Zappa-List] Montana, anti-politics, and the worst of two evils

2004-11-03 Thread SOFA





Hold on, Bro. For as much as I firmly believe that W is dumb all over, 
Cheney is truly evil. No, we actually have to make it a point to keep Bush alive 
for the next 4 years. The alternative is NOT acceptable.
SOFA

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  PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Montana, 
  anti-politics, and the worst of two evils
  
  All of this makes me wish Lee Harvey Oswald had a 
  son
  
  Darrell


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Re: [Zappa-List] 761119 FZ w/ FloEddie Vine - open

2004-12-06 Thread SOFA





Yes, the vine originated with Carsten; but, I don't think the info below is 
correct.
FE 761119 opening for Zappa - 1 disk
Zappa 761119 - 2 disks
FE 790716 - 1 disk.
These are the disks I received, and am mailing to Chris Foreman this 
morning.
SOFA
Am 
  I guessing right that all this 4 discs vine set consists of:CD 1 - Flo 
   Eddie show in its entity taken from Ezy Tree by CarstenCD 2 - the 
  same Flo  Eddie show edited taken from radio broadcastCD 3/4 - 
  Frank's Cobo Hall 11/19/76 show am I right on this?I have 
  FE album (Immoral, Illegal  Fattenin) on cdr copy - super!I hope 
  I'll manage to track that vine too.Best 
  wishesBartUytkownik Cris Haldenby [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  napisa:On 4 Dec 2004, at 18:36, glen wrote: In a message 
  dated 12/4/04 11:15:22 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes: Thanks for that.what I want to know is..is 
  *Illegal,Immoral and Fattening* an official release 
  ? Millhouse wrote 
  -Yes. Whether or not it\'s currently in print and 
  available, though.. no idea.Illegal, 
  Immoral and fattening was an official release and was issued on 
  CD back in 1996 (I think)However, it is NOT the same as what we are 
  talking about hereTrack listing and details of the official 
  disc are 
  herehttp://store.worldsearch.com/illegal_immoral_%26_fattening-amco- 
  B02R4A.htmThe current vine disc seems to have 
  originated with 
  Carstenhttp://www.mail-archive.com/zappa-list@yahoogroups.com/msg00340.htmlHope 
  that sorts it out.Just off for me tea... see you later! 
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Re: [Zappa-List] Wating for QuAUDIOPHILIAc

2004-12-08 Thread SOFA





Order or shipping confirmation?
I received an order confirmation and it too had a tracking number, which I 
have been using to check on the order at the zappadotcom. I don't know whether 
or not this numbers corresponds to any shipping company or method, tho' I highly 
doubt it does. It seems to be merely a tracking number for the order at 
Barfko.
As I do not have any plastic, I sent them a personal check (which the phone 
attendant I spoke to said was just fine). AFA I know, the check has not been 
cashed. I know that there has always been the funds to cover it, since the order 
was placed...
I have filled out their "super spiffy complaint form", but have received no 
response. (I did the same thing when I placed the order, as I had forgotten my 
password and they seemed to have forgotten it too. But this I found out from the 
phone attendant; I never received a response to my emailed request for help - 
"fast and efficient" my ass.)
Hope your order goes better than mine...
SOFA

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  Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 8:01 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Wating for 
  QuAUDIOPHILIAc
  
  I just got a conformation with a 
  tracking number but it doesn't say what kind of tracking number it is. USPS, 
  Fed-Ex, UPS ect. They did put the charge on my card about that same time. 
  Think it's only been about three weeks sense I ordered.
  
  Jim L 
  


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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Y Tu Mama Tambien

2004-12-08 Thread SOFA





Yes; but that, too, was done with Zappa approval (and involvement).
SOFA

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  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: Y Tu Mama 
  Tambien
  Wasn't the snippet from Gene Simmon's "Black Tongue" 
  taken from "Black Napkins"?--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: In a message 
  dated 12/6/04 4:21:28 PM Central Standard Time,  [EMAIL PROTECTED]... writes: The 
  question that comes to me is: if 'Watermelon' is one of 
  the three songs he never wanted played in  any other media, What 
  are the other two? -"Zoot Allures" and "Black Napkins" 
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Re: [Zappa-List] OT: Holdsworth/Colaiuta

2004-12-22 Thread SOFA






Thank you for that; I thought it a bit out of character...
SOFA
By 
  the way: my roomate was fucking around with my email yesterday.Sorry for 
  that, it's my fault. I need to remember to sign out when Idon't use this 
  computer.


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Re: [Zappa-List] FZ comic

2004-12-24 Thread SOFA






It's kinda lame, really... Worth seeing of course, but not 
worth the $20 a - ahem - FZ newbie would pay to have "anything related to Frank" 
(if you catch my drift here). It's the 'basic' MOI history up to just before the 
71 stage tumble. The artwork is good - but not killer...
Had R. Crumb done a Zappa history, THAT would be worth 
something. But this comic is pretty pedestrian. Again, fun to check out. But not 
crucial to possess.
My 2 cents.
SOFA

  I think many of us have seen 
  it; I've owned it for about 4 years now.
  SOFA
  
  -I don't think I've ever seen it. In fact, I'm not sure I even know what 
  you guys are referring to. But if it gets uploaded somewhere, be sure to post 
  the URL here, I'd like to check it out :)
  --Milhouse


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Re: [Zappa-List] QUESTION ABOUT 3-31-79 ZAPPA SHOW

2005-01-01 Thread SOFA






No, that's not how it's supposed to be; someone in the chain screwed up - 
or so it would seem.
SOFA

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  Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2005 10:01 
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  Subject: [Zappa-List] QUESTION ABOUT 
  3-31-79 ZAPPA SHOW
  happy new year everybody, i was starting to make my 
  copy of this show and i realized it has 2 second gaps between songs. this 
  isnt how its suppose to be, is it? peace, scottFor 
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Re: [Zappa-List] New to the list

2005-01-03 Thread SOFA






Welcome to the List, Dave.
No, there is no FAQ for the procedure and there probably should be. I will 
try to rectify that sometime soon. For now, the best thing to do would be either 
get emails direct from the List, or check the yahoo page frequently for 
"offers". Shannon has started a new 'perma'-vine starting for the "Magic 
Fingers' Variation Variations" 4 disk set. You can mail him directly to get your 
name on that list. Or you can respond to one of the folks who have recently 
"closed" a vine offer, and ask to be considered for the re-offer.
The email of a member is always attached to their message; you should be 
able to click on it to create a private mail to them (or copy and paste their 
addy to a new mail as the case may be). Replies to Group messages go out to the 
entire List. Some have found this tough to get used to, but we are - after all - 
primarily a "discussion" group, trading  vinesare merely an added 
benefit...
Have fun and don't be afraid to ask for help. We're a pretty friendly 
lot.
Regards,
SOFA
Hey 
  all,I'm new here, and just starting my FZ collection. I have a couple 
  of1988 shows on cassette, which I need to burn to CD, but otherwise 
  notmuch in trade bait. How can I get on one of those vine thingys, and 
  isthere an FAQ for learning the 
procedure?Thanks,Dave


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Re: [Zappa-List] FZ Interview Request. . .

2005-01-10 Thread SOFA






Try this: http://home.online.no/~corneliu/interviews.htm
SOFA

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  Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 12:21 
  PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] FZ Interview 
  Request. . .
  OK, I have an interview "the mother of all 
  interviews" in a magazinesomewhere, where Frank talks about being in 
  Belgium with CaptainBeefheart at a festival in 68 or '69, and the hot 
  dogs, green water,waffles, etc. It's really a great read - the whole 
  thing. . . Anyway,is this online anywhere? I know I saw it on Friendly 
  Little Fingeryears ago, but that site was history the last time I 
  checked.He'p!


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Re: [Zappa-List] Recomendation

2005-01-14 Thread SOFA






Thereis no easy answer to your question, Kim; FZ has over 65 released 
titles, many of them multiple disk sets. There's a LOT of music to choose from 
for this recommendation...
I could name a release or two, someone else could respond "no, try these", 
and name another couple. It's almost easier to tell you what to avoid, yet there 
would still be a response to the effect "no, you should GET that one".
Your situation is quite similar to "Hey, I just discovered bread; any 
recommendation on which bread I should buy?" And I'm not being silly here; it's 
really that complex.
Since you liked 'Cleveland', and possibly more, from "Does Humor...why not 
get that one? Or have your friend copy it for you and then really give it a 
critical listen. Then ask yourself, "why do I like this?" You have lots of 
options: the guitar work, the compositional style, the social commentary, the 
funny lyrics, the tightness of the band. Narrow down what you like the most and 
we may be a little more help to you...
And if this all sounds like too much to do for a lousy FZ recording, go buy 
"One Size Fits All". This is one recording that almost every Zappa fan rates 
highly; it seems to please a lot of the reasons that we all for enjoying 
FZ.
Good luck and keep us posted on your progress.
Regards,
SOFA

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  From: 
  Richard Moore 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 3:56 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] 
  Recomendation
  
  everything! http://www.zappa.com
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
kim 
pedersen 
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 6:42 
PM
Subject: [Zappa-List] 
Recomendation

hello i just heard some frank zappa here by the 
day, a friend of mine put on a cd called does humor belong in music and it 
was a song called "lets move to cleveland" i was blown out by this song it 
was just so cool and now i want to hear more music of him,what other records 
can you recomend to me,what should start with?

regards kim "new zappa 
  fan"


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Re: [Zappa-List] Vine Closed / Coming soon to a vine near you - 5 disc Video Vine

2005-01-15 Thread SOFA






That ranks as one of the funniest things I've ever read on 
this list...
SOFA

  It's long out of print, so there shouldn't be a problem with the 
  legal status of this torrent.


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Re: [Zappa-List] ISO - 731123 Late show

2005-01-19 Thread SOFA






Hey DebK!
What a treat to hear from you; you're right, it hasbeen a long time - 
too long.
That show is the late show from:
23-Nov 1973, Massey Hall, Toronto, Canada
(Check out this site if you ever want to match a date with a show
http://home.swipnet.se/fzshows/FZShowsoverview.html)
I will check out your posting trouble; as this appeared at the Zappa-List, 
it's probably at theBIGnote where you can't connect... Either way, I'll look 
into it. We miss you too!
Drop mea private note, as I may not have your current address; mine 
is the same. It may help me figure out the problem.
Big Hugs!
SOFA


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Debrakadabra 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 8:26 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] ISO - 731123 
  Late show
  Hello, long time no hear from:No I do not have this 
  show. My collection of boots isstill limited to BTB and one 
  Beefheart boot. I willask around, though, and see if I know anyone 
  who hasit. Just to make it easier, where was the show andwhat 
  venue?BTW, I have been unable to post on the list for 
  sometime. Is there anyway this can be remedied or do Ihave to 
  re-enlist? I have chatted a bit withSharleena and Muffinman, but I 
  miss you guys.Still out here in the etherDebK--- 
  sofa49423fz [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:  Greetings Listers! The inimitable Magic 
  Fingers and I are involved in a nifty new project. In this 
  regard, we are seeking the late show from Nov. 23, 1973 - 
  specifically the "Big Swifty/Eat that Question" track. Does 
  anyone out there have this show in their library, and could 
  help us out? Please LMK ASAP if this might be 
  available. Regards, SOFA
  =And when you get right down to it, what is music, 
  really?...Here's my theory. First of all, music functions in the time 
  domain--there's decor and the time domain. That's the canvas you paint on when 
  you're working with music. Another distinction: written music is to real 
  music what a recipe is to real food. You can't listen to music on a piece of 
  paper and you can't eat a recipe, so I put them both into the same category. 
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Re: [Zappa-List] Who did this then?!

2005-01-22 Thread SOFA






You would probably be quite surprised at how good the movie is...
But then, I liked "Toy Story" also - so maybe it's me.
Actually, I liked #2 better, but both films were worth watching. Check it 
out sometime, Mark.
Regards,
SOFA
That's 
  great! I wish I'd done it, though I've never seen the movie butimagine it 
  to blow mightily.Mark


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Re: [Zappa-List] Who did this then?!

2005-01-22 Thread SOFA
Title: Re: [Zappa-List] Who did this then?!






I know what you mean, Bro. It took me a while to get used to the CGI's 
myself.
Of course, any animation is largely dependant on story line and script. I 
liked the writing of Shrek as much - if not more - than I enjoyed the 
animation...
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Mark 
  Darling 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 2:16 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Who did this 
  then?!
  As an admire of drawn animation I'm a little snobbish on the 
  subject of CGIs, despite its obvious brilliance and accomplishments, but I'll 
  give them a chance on your recommendation, SOFA. Mark


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Re: [Zappa-List] test

2005-02-06 Thread SOFA






Your posts are getting thru to us, Richard; tho' I don't know whether or 
not they're getting back to you...
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Richard 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2005 8:00 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] test
  test- Original Message -From: "Ken Weston" 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: 
  Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSent: 
  Saturday, February 05, 2005 10:24 PMSubject: [Zappa-List] Re: Digest 
  Number 1164 With Plextors at around $50, I 
  made the move over the holidays... Ken Weston --- In 
  Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, 
  Jim L [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote:  I've 
  been wondering about this myself. Heard a few folks mention they can 
  make DVD's and was curious if DVD burners are becoming the norm. I 
  have one but have been converting to VCD for vines so that everyone 
  could participate. Also some might have the ability to capture DVD 
  video if they only have a player and convert it to VCD. Or we could 
  always send around a DVD and VCD version of the same show and each 
  could copy the one they could copy.   Jim L 
   - Original Message -  From: Brian Winans  
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 8:34 PM  Subject: Re: 
  [Zappa-List] Digest Number 1164
maybe a poll is in order to find out how many 
   of us can burn DVD-Rs.   I'm in.  
  Brian   
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Re: [Zappa-List] Zappa SNL DVD BP Offer

2005-02-07 Thread SOFA






As I am one who is 'DVD challenged, I'd like in on this BP...
Regards,
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Scott 
  Burnett 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 12:56 
  PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Zappa SNL DVD 
  BP Offer
  I dwonloaded this from EZT, It's a nicely edited DVD 
  version of Franks 2 appearances on Saturday Night Live in '76 and '78. 
  I'll do 5 BP and consider trades. E-mail me off list.Full 
  Info From EZT;Frank Zappa Saturday Night Live 12-11-1976 
  10-21-1978 1 DVD-R 3.52 GB This is a repost of my first 
  (and only) seed from STG back in the spring of 2004. This torrent 
  contains both of Frank Zappa's SNL appearances on 1 DVD, it has only the 
  Zappa content. The videos were recorded on VHS HI-FI tape from full 
  show rebroadcasts that aired on the Comedy Network (Canada), in 
  February 1998 and June 1998. These are masters from those broadcasts. 
  Capture process: VHS HI-FI (S-VIDEO) Sony DCR-TRV720 with 
  Digial Pass-Thru Firewire to PC Adobe Premire 6.5 
  Encoding: 3.52 GBytes : NTSC 29.97 fps : Aspect ratio 4:3 
  Video encoding rate: 8mbps Audio encoding rate: 192Kbps Dolby Digital 
  2.0 Authored with: DVDIT!-PE Ripped back to HD using DVDDECRYPTER 
  Menus: 12-11-1976 1) Opening Credits 2) I'm the slime 
  3) Purple Lagoon 4) The Killer Trees 5) Peaches en regailia 6) 
  Closing credits 10-21-1978 1) Opening Credits 2) DF 3) The 
  coneheads at home 4) The meek shall inherit nothing 5) Night on freak 
  mountain 6) St alphonzoo/Rollo 7) Closing credits 
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Re: [Zappa-List] Frank Zappa on Crossfire

2005-02-09 Thread SOFA






I heard he shot himself...Shot his girlfriend too.
I could be wrong tho'. (LMAO!)
SOFA
You 
  can measure a debater's character by the speed with which they invoke the 
  evil word, "Hitler." I wonder whatever happened to that prick? 
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Re: [Zappa-List] Frank Zappa on Crossfire

2005-02-09 Thread SOFA






Yeah - in the Bunker, of all places! Can you imagine, shooting yourself in 
the Bunker?
That HAD to hurt. 
He shot his girl in the Bunker too...
I read it somewhere, anyway...
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  chris 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 4:39 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Frank Zappa on 
  Crossfire
  
  Did he really?
  ChrisSOFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  



I heard he shot himself...Shot his girlfriend too.
I could be wrong tho'. (LMAO!)
SOFA
You 
  can measure a debater's character by the speed with which they invoke 
  the evil word, "Hitler." I wonder whatever happened to that prick? 
  Mark


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[Zappa-List] ZFT - They're everywhere you're going to be...

2005-02-22 Thread SOFA






Joe's Corsage - 
$12.00
Joe's Domage - $13.00
QuAUDIOPHILIAc - $20.00
Standard Shipping- $8.95
Store Credit - 
$4.00
Total to ZFT - $49.95
Priority Mail w/ Delivery Confirmation - $5.00
Telephone Calls to B.S.'s answering machine - 
$7.00
Telephone Call to B.S.'s attendant - $1.05
Overdrawn Checking Account Fee - $25.00
Copy of Cancelled Check from Bank - $2.00
Total out-of-pocket Expense for 3 FZ releases - 
$90.00
Number of days since order was placed (and not shipped) - 
118+
5 unanswered requests for help 
via "Barfko-Swill athletic 
support form"- worthless
1 email from Gail 'explaining' what happened - 
priceless???

"Jack,We're on it. Thanks for writing to me. I will 
look into the details and get back to you as soon as I can next week. 
I just wanted you to know that we will honor the discount. The check 
turned up mysteriously only recently. Let's just say there is no 
accounting for finding mail behind the copier - as it happens, we've even 
had this excuse from customers that said they hadn't received their goods - 
only to discover them behind their copier. Maybe machines are taking 
over.So, we did deposit your check earlier this month. As you 
might understand we have to wait for the bank to tell us it cleared - and we 
only got this information from our bank very recently. So, if your 
order has not already been processed it will be as soon as we reopen 
next week. As for the phones, we are dark on Mondays. We've also 
had lots of computer  network issues since the rains which have been 
frightening for us sunny californians. Even today we were without 
power for most of the day.Thanks in advance for your patience and 
for your commitment to the Music of Frank Zappa.Music is the 
Best!gz"CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail 
transmission, e-mail address and anydocuments, files or previous e-mail 
messages attached to it may containconfidential information that is legally 
privileged. If you are not theintended recipient, or a person 
responsible for delivering it to theintended recipient, you are hereby 
notified that any disclosure, copying,distribution or use of any of the 
information contained in or attached tothis transmission is STRICTLY 
PROHIBITED. If you have received thistransmission in error, please 
immediately notify the sender. Please destroythe original transmission 
and its attachments without reading or saving inany manner. Thank 
you.(I'm tremblin' in my cushions)

On Feb 18, 2005, at 3:21 PM, SOFA wrote:Dear Gail,I hope this 
letter finds you well. I also hope that you can help me...I've been a fan of 
FZ's since the late 60's, and a supporter of the ZFT since his passing. I 
have legitimately purchased every release to this point (with the exception 
of Halloween). In October of '04, I placed an order for the two "Joe's" 
available, and the "Quadiopheliac" release. I received confirmation of the 
order on Oct. 27 (#19929). I called 818-Pumpkin to make sure that it was a) 
okay to pay by personal check, and b) to make sure that I could still 
receive the 'credit' I was promised from the pre-order of "FZ in OZ". The 
attendant I spoke with assured me it was okay, simply deduct the credit from 
my check - which I did.At the end of November, I had not received my 
order, nor could I get any info on it by checking the website (tracking 
#X2345). As it is extremely difficult - not to mention expensive - to 
get thru to a real person at the 818-Pumpkin, I tried the "Help Form" 
available at the website.I received no reply to my inquiry. I tried 
again two more times in the Month of December...I finally gave up, 
figuring that my check had gotten lost in the mail - even tho' it was sent 
priority mail with delivery confirmation (which told me that it had been 
delivered on the 2nd of November). Last week, I received a notice from my 
bank that my checking account was overdrawn. Upon investigating, I found out 
that the check written to Barfko Swill was cashed and cleared my bank on 
Feb. 4th. However, checking the website, I do not see that my order has been 
shipped...I have requested (and paid for) an image of my cancelled check; I 
expect it in a couple of days. The bank attendant told me the image had 
an account number (XXX) as the endorsement on the back.I've 
spent most of the day (and god knows how much money) trying to reach someone 
at 818-Pumpkin, to no avail. I have also submitted another Help Form 
(support #102322) regarding the situation, but considering the track 
record of Help Form that I've experienced, I don't hold out a lot of hope 
for an answer from those in charge of handling help requests.I know that 
you're not one to "steal" from the fans that support the ZFT, but I wonder 
about your employees... Can you help me? My faith in Barfko-Swill is at an 
all time low.I hope I have provided you enough information to check out the 
problem.Warmest Regards,Jack C. Oonk
N

Re: [Zappa-List] VO:March 11, 1973 Texas Hall UTA, Arlington, TX Gesture of Contempt

2005-03-01 Thread SOFA






Just a suggestion:
Why not do two vines, one in SHN and one in wav/acd? That way, those of us 
(like me) who do not use SHN can still be a part of it?
You call, of course...
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Scott 
  Burnett 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 4:32 
  PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] VO:March 11, 1973 
  Texas Hall UTA, Arlington, TX Gesture of Contempt
  Just got this and thought I'd vine it out. What'sthe 
  genral consensus, should I distribute it inthe shorten format, 1 disc with 
  art work and infofile, or 2 audio discs with 1 data disc for theart 
  work and info file? Suggestions apreciated.This is a really fine sounding 
  show, A sound Aperformance.Here's all details;Here's a 
  great show, from the master audrecording. Thanks to T, J and of course FZ 
  andcompany. C Frank Zappa 1973-03-11 Texas Hall UTA 
  ArlingtonTexas (Gesture of Contempt) (T-34) from theoriginal analog 
  tapes Band Members: Frank Zappa - Jean-Luc Ponty - Bruce 
  Fowler - IanUnderwood - Tom Fowler - Ruth Underwood - GeorgeDuke - 
  Ralph Humphrey I'm the guy who recorded this show. I have 
  theoriginal analog cassette tapes of it. Over theyears I have traded 
  analog tape copies but untilnow have never done a digital transfer of 
  it.This is the first and only time it has beendigitally transferred 
  from the original analogcassette tapes. The bonus material is from 
  UG at what used to bethe Zappa Archives (ZARK). Section B is a 
  little left of center and Row C isthe 3rd row from the stage. 
  Mics: Sony ECM 19B  Recorder: Realistic SCT-7 Stereo 
  CassetteRecorder  Tape: Maxell Ultra Dynamic C-90 cassettes 
  the Original Analog Cassette Tapes  Playback Deck: Tascam 130  
  Nikko 32 Band EQ  Akai DR16 Digital Hard Disk Recorder  
  Sony PCM-R500 DAT Recorder  Sony DAT Tape  HHB CDR-800 
  Compact Disc Recorder  HHB CDR  WAV  SHN I 
  have also done the artwork for this version ofthis show. Pictures taken 
  the night of the showby D. Knarr. I really have never liked 
  thepractice of giving titles to live shows but Iunderstand one of the 
  reasons people do it is todistinguish between different versions of 
  thesame show. I felt like I needed to give this onea title due to the 
  other inferior versions thatexist. Please keep the artwork and text 
  file,unaltered, together with the SHN's. Disc 1 1. 
  (intro and tune up) 2. RDNZL 3. Exercise 4 / Dog Breath / The Dog 
  BreathVariations / Uncle Meat 4. Fifty-Fifty 5. (deviation 
  explaination) 6. Ralph Deviates First (with audienceparticipation 
  including the imaginary diseases of the future story) 7. Inca Roads 
  8. Montana 9. George Duke's Solo 10. (improvisations including The 
  Mystery Song#2) Disc 2 1. Mr. Green Genes / King Kong / 
  Chunga's Revenge/ Mr. Green Genes (reprise) Bonus Material: 
  2. Kansas Is Fer Real (The Mothers after a show approx. 1968 or 
  1969backstage and in the van going to get somethingto eat.) 
  For Trade or Give Away only - Do not Sell - Donot encode 
  as MP3 May 26, 2004 
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Re: [Zappa-List] FZ on the Coneheads show!

2005-03-17 Thread SOFA





The Coneheads was not a TV show. It was an ongoing sketch on the Saturday 
Night Live TV show. Think of a recurring M Python sketch and you'll get the 
idea...
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Danny 
  ODare 
  To: zappalist 
  Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 7:46 
  AM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] FZ on the Coneheads 
  show!
  
  No doubt like many of you, I stumbled across this on "Zappa.hu" today - 
  FZ on the "Coneheads" TV show. Naturally, not being a US citizen, I had no 
  idea that that the "Coneheads" was a US TV show!
  
  http://miketroiano.com/zvideo.html
  
  
  cheers,
  
  Danny
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Re: [Zappa-List] MITB Box Set for sale on Ebay in 4 -2 disc Sales

2005-03-29 Thread SOFA





Wow! That's Steve's set all right... And shrink-wrapped!
Can you imagine the cheek? Billed in large letters "Original; not a copy". 
Peuuew!
SOFA

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  From: 
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  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 11:50 
  AM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] MITB Box Set for 
  sale on Ebay in 4 -2 disc Sales
  Well folks it didn't take too long but someone has 
  bootef the MITB set and is selling it on ebay.What can I say,I had more 
  fun the way I got my copy,plus I got to turn someone else on to it as 
  well.Here's the link if anyone wants to 
  see:http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=58594item=4713454934rd=1Chris 
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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: MITB Box Set for sale on Ebay in 4 -2 disc Sales

2005-03-29 Thread SOFA





Your best bet, Luis, is to use the message archives, hunt down the old 
vines, and request a copy from a "last" recipient. Vines should not die, nor do 
they need to be "revined". The last person to receive a copy has a moral 
obligation to pass it along - even if the request comes well after their having 
posted a "VO" message.
Well group? Does anyone want to come forward who received this vine, and 
didn't have any takers on the re-offer, and help out our friend Luis?
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  lusi 
  tanio 
  To: zappa-list@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 4:03 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: MITB Box 
  Set for sale on Ebay in 4 -2 disc Sales
  
  well, i don´t have this box set, hope not to be the only one
  
  maybe it could be revine here, if there are 
  more interested.
  
  Luis
  
  
  
  
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Re: [Zappa-List] yahoo groups

2005-03-30 Thread SOFA





No, that shit happens. More so when the messages are 'crossing' the 
different yahoos in different countries, but it happens with the US based one 
too. The group page records them in the right order, but the distribution is not 
always even.
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jack 
  Simpson 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 9:51 
  PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] yahoo groups
  
  We've discussed this before, but YaHoo Groups is one weird animal. I'm 
  getting responses to emails that haven't yet showed up in my own mailbox yet. 
  That is not normal, right?
  
  Jack in Austin (3 glasses of chardonnay and counting. The USA Men's 
  Soccer Teamis beating Guatamala 2 to 0 right now.)
  
  
  Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Sports - Sign 
  up for Fantasy Baseball. For further Z-related fun, please 
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Re: [Zappa-List] VO: Chalk Pie

2005-03-31 Thread SOFA





Hey wait a minute... You're not a Richard Moore!
SOFA

  
  Me! Me! Yes!
  
  Jack Simpson
  4516 Manzanillo Dr.
  Austin, TX 78749Cyrano [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  The First Richard Moore to email me off list gets this Vine sent his 
  way


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Re: [Zappa-List] MITB Box Set for sale on Ebay in 4 -2 disc Sales

2005-03-31 Thread SOFA





In a word?
Yup.
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jim 
  L 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:08 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] MITB Box Set 
  for sale on Ebay in 4 -2 disc Sales
  
  Well it's been removed. But did we 
  do the right thing? 
  http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=58594item=4713454934rd=1
  
  Jim L 
  


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Re: [Zappa-List] VC for now Re: MITB - Who did the vines die with?

2005-03-31 Thread SOFA





Then Jack is okay to send it off in turn to one of the 3 (at least) who 
have also expressed the interest? I believe Luis piped-in first. I'd have to 
check... Or was Ken Weston his contact? 
LuisChristianRichardGabriel were the ones who've posted 
their interest thus far...
Correct me if I'm wrong.
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jim 
  L 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:51 
  PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] VC for now Re: MITB 
  - Who did the vines die with?
  
  Jack Simpson was first. MITB will 
  be coming
  
  Jim L 
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim L 
  
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: MITB - Who did the vines die 
  with?
  
  It was only vined as Audio CD on 
  this list. In hindsight I guess flac would have made sense but we have lots of 
  viners that don't do flac or shn. I think we have some using Mac OS 9 and last 
  time I checked there was no flac decoder for that OS. The extra set I have is 
  very low gen however as I was one of the original weeders. I'm on disc 5 
  listening to make sure there are no errors. Not a terrible chore but a good 
  excuse to listen to a great collection. If someone will volunteer to organize 
  a vine I should be ready to send them out next week. Or we could just do it 
  the minivine way with each offering on the list as they are ready to send them 
  out? Ether way someone can email me now to be first.
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
  Jim L 
  
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: DaveW. 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 7:23 AM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: MITB - Who did the vines die 
  with?
  
  I was thinking of this set the other day and 
  wondering what happened to them.
  If there areany original FLAC or SHN disks 
  out there they should start circulating again...For 
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Re: [Zappa-List] VC for now Re: MITB - Who did the vines die with?

2005-04-01 Thread SOFA





If I'm not mistaken we have 2 different sets of artwork for this already 
filed... Yours would be a 3rd set?
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  marcomat 
  
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 7:57 
AM
  Subject: R: [Zappa-List] VC for now Re: 
  MITB - Who did the vines die with?
  
  Hi everybody!
  I'm interested in this vine. Although I already have MITB 
  in mp3 format, Iwould like to upgrade to a better version. So, please, 
  count me in.
  As for the artwork, I could upload the 3 zip files (6.5MB 
  in total) to the files section of the group.
  
  All the best
  marco
  


Da: lusi tanio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: venerdì 1 aprile 2005 14.05A: 
Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comOggetto: Re: [Zappa-List] VC for now 
Re: MITB - Who did the vines die with?

you r4right i think. 
maybe there are more interested in MITB.
Thanks to Jim for restarting this vine

LuisSOFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  
  

  Then Jack is okay to send it off in turn to one of the 3 (at least) 
  who have also expressed the interest? I believe Luis piped-in first. I'd 
  have to check... Or was Ken Weston his contact? 
  LuisChristianRichardGabriel were the ones who've 
  posted their interest thus far...
  Correct me if I'm wrong.
  SOFA
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Jim L 
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 8:51 
PM
Subject: [Zappa-List] VC for now 
Re: MITB - Who did the vines die with?

Jack Simpson was first. MITB 
will be coming

Jim 
L 

- Original Message - 
From: Jim 
L 
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: MITB - Who did the vines die 
with?

It was only vined as Audio CD 
on this list. In hindsight I guess flac would have made sense but we 
have lots of viners that don't do flac or shn. I think we have some 
using Mac OS 9 and last time I checked there was no flac decoder for 
that OS. The extra set I have is very low gen however as I was one of 
the original weeders. I'm on disc 5 listening to make sure there are no 
errors. Not a terrible chore but a good excuse to listen to a great 
collection. If someone will volunteer to organize a vine I should be 
ready to send them out next week. Or we could just do it the minivine 
way with each offering on the list as they are ready to send them out? 
Ether way someone can email me now to be first.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jim 
L 

- Original Message - 
From: DaveW. 
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: MITB - Who did the vines die 
with?

I was thinking of this set the other day 
and wondering what happened to them.
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[Zappa-List] Update at theBIGnote.com

2005-04-01 Thread SOFA





Hey Gang!
This is sorta a 'blanket' (or poncho, if you prefer) announcement that www.thebignote.com has updated their site 
today - yes, I know, about effing time...
Some new (?) FZ in the Musibrarium, as well as an OOP Fowler Bros release, 
and a demo (of sorts) by yours truly and my vocal group; fine art by Zappa-List 
member Mark Darling; CD covers by TBNer  List member Chris Foreman; a great 
"essay" by List member Dawayne Bailey (remember his "My first time to see FZ" 
thread? We have fleshed it out just a bit); and other new and/or gently used 
tidbits...
Please let me know if you encounter any problems. Bear in mind that 
normally with an update, the increase in traffic at the Musibrarium's server can 
cause interruptions in service. We try to stay on top of that as best we can - 
but shit happens.
Anyway, enjoy the new stuff.
Regards,
SOFA


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Re: [Zappa-List] VC for now Re: MITB - Who did the vines die with?

2005-04-01 Thread SOFA





I have an idea, of sorts... How about I post all 3 sets of art at 
theBIGnote's webpage? They would be stored there forever, easily accessible, and 
not take up any of our "room" at the yahoo page...
I won't do this if any List member objects...
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  marcomat 
  
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 9:50 
AM
  Subject: R: [Zappa-List] VC for now Re: 
  MITB - Who did the vines die with?
  
  I didn't know there were already two versions uploaded. 
  I've checked both and can confirm that I have a third set (don't know who made 
  it, but you should already know it, as it probably comes from The BigNote or 
  thereabouts). Since the 20MB reserved to the File directory of the list are 
  almost used up, maybe it's not necessary that I upload yet another artwork 
  set. Or...?
  
  

    
    Da: SOFA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Inviato: venerdì 1 aprile 2005 15.39A: 
Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comOggetto: Re: [Zappa-List] VC for now 
Re: MITB - Who did the vines die with?

If I'm not mistaken we have 2 different sets of artwork for this 
already filed... Yours would be a 3rd set?
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  marcomat 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 7:57 
  AM
  Subject: R: [Zappa-List] VC for now 
  Re: MITB - Who did the vines die with?
  
  Hi everybody!
  I'm interested in this vine. Although I already have 
  MITB in mp3 format, Iwould like to upgrade to a better version. So, 
  please, count me in.
  As for the artwork, I could upload the 3 zip files 
  (6.5MB in total) to the files section of the group.
  
  All the best
  marco
  


Da: lusi tanio 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Inviato: venerdì 1 aprile 2005 
14.05A: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comOggetto: Re: 
[Zappa-List] VC for now Re: MITB - Who did the vines die 
with?

you r4right i think. 
maybe there are more interested in MITB.
Thanks to Jim for restarting this vine

LuisSOFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

  
  

  Then Jack is okay to send it off in turn to one of the 3 (at 
  least) who have also expressed the interest? I believe Luis piped-in 
  first. I'd have to check... Or was Ken Weston his contact? 
  LuisChristianRichardGabriel were the ones 
  who've posted their interest thus far...
  Correct me if I'm wrong.
  SOFA
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Jim L 
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 
8:51 PM
Subject: [Zappa-List] VC for 
now Re: MITB - Who did the vines die with?

Jack Simpson was first. 
MITB will be coming

Jim L 


- Original Message - 
From: Jim L 
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: MITB - Who did the vines 
die with?

It was only vined as 
Audio CD on this list. In hindsight I guess flac would have made 
sense but we have lots of viners that don't do flac or shn. I think 
we have some using Mac OS 9 and last time I checked there was no 
flac decoder for that OS. The extra set I have is very low gen 
however as I was one of the original weeders. I'm on disc 5 
listening to make sure there are no errors. Not a terrible chore but 
a good excuse to listen to a great collection. If someone will 
volunteer to organize a vine I should be ready to send them out next 
week. Or we could just do it the minivine way with each offering on 
the list as they are ready to send them out? Ether way someone can 
email me now to be first.

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Jim L 


- Original Message - 
From: DaveW. 
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2005 7:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: MITB - Who did the vines 
die with?

I was thinking of this set the other 
day and wondering what happened to them.
If there areany original FLAC or 
SHN disks out there they should start circulating 
again...For 
further Z-related fun, please visit http://www.thebignote.com or 
http://www.killuglyradio.com 
 

Re: [Zappa-List] MITB artwork

2005-04-01 Thread SOFA





Don't worry just yet Chris. As we have just loaded several of your covers 
to TBN's webpage, I will probably delete them in the near futeum... But, see my 
last post to marco; I'll wait a bit for group response.
SOFA

  
  Howdy folks,
  If my MITB art is taking up too much space ,I could remove them,if you 
  like.There's alot of black ink used on them,printing them for myself drained 
  my black cartridge.
  Chrismarcomat [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:
  

I didn't know there were already two versions uploaded. 
I've checked both and can confirm that I have a third set (don't know who 
made it, but you should already know it, as it probably comes from The 
BigNote or thereabouts). Since the 20MB reserved to the File directory of 
the list are almost used up, maybe it's not necessary that I upload yet 
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Re: [Zappa-List] MITB artwork

2005-04-01 Thread SOFA





First off, thank you Jim for stepping up. I'm more than a little 
disappointed that some of the original vinees at the end of the line didn't 
respond (ya see, the message archives give me a pretty good clue of who these 
folks are)... But that's life, yes?
I am currently thinking about a different way to start vines here, one that 
doesn't require any "keeping track"... I'll post those thoughts when I've fully 
fleshed them out.
Afa the artwork for this set is concerned... I will be 'tidying' up our 
storage space in the following week; it's been a while, and needs to be done. So 
please, don't anyone delete anything as of yet... A lot of Chris' stuff, as I 
mentioned, was featured in theBIGnote's update; I will clear that out. Marco, if 
you could please allow me the week, I will have some space for your work. I'm 
sure I am not the only member interested in seeing what you have done...
Patience Kids!
Regards,
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jim 
  L 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 8:21 
PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] MITB 
  artwork
  
  It's probably mine that should be 
  removed. 
  
  From: chris 
  
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 10:41 AM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] MITB artwork
  
  Howdy folks,
  If my MITB art is taking up too much space ,I could remove them,if you 
  like.
  
  
I didn't know there were already two versions uploaded. 
I've checked both and can confirm that I have a third set (don't know who 
made it, but you should already know it, as it probably comes from The 
BigNote or thereabouts). Since the 20MB reserved to the File directory of 
the list are almost used up, maybe it's not necessary that I upload yet 
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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO 840908 Ahlen, West Germany FLAC

2005-04-03 Thread SOFA





SOFA-USChris 
Foreman-USmichaelpainter4501-USJoeDP-USJust to let everyone know where it stands now (Chris was in first, 
but kinda missed the format; so the above is actually correct). I will cross off 
my name when it's mailed.
Regards,
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Re: [Zappa-List] Vines, etc...

2005-04-03 Thread SOFA





Welcome Todd!
Don't let the appearance of reigning confusion fool you; we really have no 
idea what we're doing.
Hope you enjoy your stay...
Cool Zappa story, btw.
Regards,
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 7:00 
PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Vines, etc...
  hi all,i'm a fairly new member of this. the 
  only other lists i belong to are the Tom Waits and Randy Newman 
  ones. being a "newbie" i'm not too sure how these vines work. 
  although i'm a newbie to this list i'm a long time FZ fan, owning most 
  of his lps, all the way from Were Only In It For The Money, Lumpy Gravy, 
  etc... my cousin turned me on to FZ when i was probably 14 or so, 
  way back in the early 70s, i think it was the live white album. it 
  was the first time i ever heard someone say fuck on a record, i was 
  immediately hooked. i actually met Frank during my senior year 
  in high school (1975) while interning at the local progressive FM radio 
  station here in cincinnati. Don't You Eat the Yellow Snow was 
  actually being played on the radio. he was in town to do a concert at 
  the UC (University of Cincinnati) Fieldhouse and he dropped by WEBN to do 
  an interview with ginger sutton. i got to sit in for the live 
  interview. the reason i got to be there was because i had the most 
  complete collection of FZ albums, which they used for the info. he 
  arrived in a limo, came upstairs for the interview and made ginger look 
  like a total idiot, because ginger obviously didn't know much about FZ. 
  it was hilarious. i actually got to talk to him after the interview, 
  but became totally tongue tied, even though i had all kinds of stuff i 
  wanted to ask him, however i was able to ask him where i could find a copy 
  of Lumpy Gravy which was probably the only LP i couldn't find. he 
  thought that was pretty cool and at the time i think that was probably the 
  album he was most proud of.well that's about it for now. might 
  check in once in a while but glad to have found this discussion 
  list.todd (who still can't resist saying "there's a howard johnsons, 
  wanna eat some clams? whenever i see a howard johnsons, or whenever i 
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Re: [Zappa-List] SOFA's Vine-Ology

2005-04-04 Thread SOFA





Thank you for the kind offer YM (Barry).
Obviously, the method employedat the KUR Forms is a good one, or I 
wouldn't have tried to emulate it. I think though (no offense, of course) that 
I'd like to see this work out for the List in its present form, as we are a 
community unto our own; sorta keeping the system "in house" rather than 
expanding it to involve other web areas. I sure (hope?) you understand.
Warm regards!
SOFA
PS Nice wiki you're building, btw: http://wiki.killuglyradio.com/index.php/Main_Page
Another 
  option would be to not have the progression of a vine posted via the list, 
  instead having a messageboard where it can be followed up. (SNIP)I could 
  set up a forum for this at thebignote.com, should the powers that be feel like 
  this is a viable option.Just a thought...YM (aka Barry, Lurker 
  Extraordinaire)


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Re: [Zappa-List] re: Vines - and how they work

2005-04-05 Thread SOFA





is that a real poncho or is that a sears poncho? but seriously 
folks, from a somewhat technologically challenged guy how do these vines 
work and how do i get in on them?todd

Hello Todd, usb (I think I want to talk with you directly soon), and any 
other "newbies"
In a nutshell, here are how 'vines' "work":
Someone (maybe even you) has a recording that they would like to share with 
the List community. They make a post to the list indicating such; in the subject 
line they put "VO" (vine offer) and what they have to share (ex. 750427 Boston 
early show, or Barcelona '88 DVD). Then, In the body of the message they put 
their user name, real name, or email address, followed by a space and two arrows 
(). That's it...
Someone (maybe even you) sees that message - either from a group email, 
digest, or at the yahoo page - and desires that selectionfor their 
collection; they respond to the message (changing nothing in the subject 
line) by adding their name to the message (ex =firstguy-US 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ). After they post their message, they 
contact the person ahead of them in line privately with their snailmail info. 
Then they wait for whatever it was that they wanted.
Oh yeah, they will, inturn, be contacted privately by the next person in 
line. This might happen right away - or much later. Regardless, the member is 
morally obligated to send the original disk(s) they received - after they have 
made a copy for themselves - to whomever is next on the list.
This is called "sharing" the music and it is something that the List 
promotes. Of course, private trades and BP between members is also 
acceptable and encouraged, but PLEASE keep your transactions off-list.
If you happen to want to trade for music, or if you do not have burning 
capability and wish to explore BP, check out the Files section for "member 
trade lists"; there are several. If you have something to offer, post your list 
there; or if you have something you'd like to share, start a vine. You'll love 
it; it's a way of life...
Regards,
SOFA



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Re: [Zappa-List] What Zappa song would apply to Ellen DeGeneris?

2005-04-07 Thread SOFA





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Re: [Zappa-List] What Zappa song would apply to Ellen DeGeneris?

2005-04-07 Thread SOFA





ROTFLMOA!
SOFA

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  would apply to Ellen DeGeneris?
  
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Re: [Zappa-List] Zappa Concert Info

2005-04-07 Thread SOFA





Either Naurin's Overview, or Ulrich's Giglist, I'd say...
http://home.swipnet.se/fzshows/FZShowsoverview.html
http://zappagigs.sytes.net/
SOFA

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  Subject: [Zappa-List] Zappa Concert 
  Info
  So, where is the best place to get all the nitty gritty 
  details about Zappa's concerts, set list,band line up etc. 
  ??__ Do you 
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[Zappa-List] VO May 9th 1973 Capitol Theatre,Passaic NJ - Vine opened

2005-04-11 Thread SOFA






- Original Message - 
From: Bart 
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 5:20 AM
Subject: [Zappa-List] May 9th 1973 Capitol Theatre,Passaic NJ - Vine 
opened

Bart-PO 
Hi Folks,thanks to Richard I gotten this tasty three discs 
set vine placed on violet sony cdrs. Now I'm ready to pass it along.First 
person to contact me off list with promise to re-offer gets it.Try it - 
you'll love it ;-)CheersBart


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Re: [Zappa-List] VO May 9th 1973 Capitol Theatre,Passaic NJ - Vine closed

2005-04-11 Thread SOFA





Bart (PL)  Pete Restall (UK) 
as far as i know this should be like:
**That's correct Bart. And, when you actually mail it on to Pete, you make 
another response to this with your name taken off... We'll all get the hang of 
this I'm sure.
Regards,
SOFA


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[Zappa-List] Zappathon Talk

2005-04-17 Thread SOFA





I hope you're all tuned in www.wusb.fm 

Apologies to my Euro friends, I'll be one around 7PM - that's midnight 
London  1AM Brussels...
What can I say?
Ulrich is one now; I can't wait for his book...
SOFA


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Re: [Zappa-List] So how's the weather up in Wisconsin?

2005-04-17 Thread SOFA





Thanks, Jim. They had their info wrong in spots, but what the fuck... It 
was fun.
I hope I did justice to all of the fans out there...
SOFA

  
  Well done SOFA. You have a fine 
  voice for radio dude. Nice plug for The Big Note too. I'd guess traffic will 
  be up this evening. 
  
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Re: [Zappa-List] So how's the weather up in Wisconsin?

2005-04-17 Thread SOFA





Considering what you guys went thru to put this sucker on, well I'm just 
pleased that you remembered lil ol me. Honestly, what a plus for the fans... I 
have not personally had that much fun in a long while! Listening to Greg and 
Charles - too cool. 
What happened to Nigey?
Still listening with about 4 hours to go...
SOFA

   Thanks, Jim. They had their info wrong in spots, but what the 
  fuck... Well, that's why we had you on the air, to 
  give us the true poop. 
  Bill Amutis[EMAIL PROTECTED](Ol' Baggy 
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Re: [Zappa-List] VO: Paris October 1968, Beat Club, TV Studio DVD

2005-04-18 Thread SOFA





[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 NICK ULLMANN-UK  

  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  I have some simple art work that I'll put on a CD-ROM to 
  accompany the DVD.Scott
  
  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  Ullmann 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 1:12 
PM
  Subject: RE: [Zappa-List] VO: Paris 
  October 1968, Beat Club, TV Studio DVD
  Hi, I am reallyinterested. If selected I promise to 
  re-offer to the group on receipt,NICK ULLMANN59 
  SOMERCOTESBASILDONESSEX SS15 
  5TZENGLAND, 
  Kind Regards, nick


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Re: [Zappa-List] Zappa Mention

2005-04-19 Thread SOFA





And, somehow, I just figure FZ would dig this guy's marketing angle... 
Kinda 'early Mothers-ish'.
SOFA

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  Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 3:25 
  PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Zappa Mention
  Zappa is mentioned near the end of this sample MP3 - 
  very interesting guy: http://www.sirmillardmulch.com/mp3/twgs-preview.mp3http://www.sirmillardmulch.com 
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Re: [Zappa-List] VO: 3 discs: OKC12-6-84 2 discs and 11-13-80 FLAC disc early show

2005-04-20 Thread SOFA






Randy-US 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Cyrano 
  
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 7:39 
  PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] VO: 3 discs: 
  OKC12-6-84 2 discs and 11-13-80 FLAC disc early show
  
  Thanks to Jack S. I have these disks to 
  re-offer.
  Music is the best! 
  Randy


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Re: [Zappa-List] VO: Re offer of Boston 27th April 1975 Flac

2005-04-20 Thread SOFA






Randy-US 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Cyrano 
  
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 7:52 
  PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] VO: Re offer of 
  Boston 27th April 1975 Flac
  
  Thanks to Richard-UK I have this Flac to 
  re-vine.
  Music is the Best
  Randy


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Re: [Zappa-List] pseudo-productions volume 2 - get it here!

2005-04-29 Thread SOFA





Danny,
Tho' thrilled that you are torrenting, I'd like you to NOT post 
torrent addresses here. You may gladly announce when you've uploaded something; 
the folks that do torrents will be able to find it on their own. I have a couple 
of reasons for suggesting this, but primarily the questionable legalities of 
file sharing makes me prefer that the actual http addy does not appear on these 
pages. I hope you understand.
Keep up the good work!
SOFA

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  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 9:38 
AM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] pseudo-productions 
  volume 2 - get it here!
  itsonlydanny's pseudo-productions proudly presents volume 2 of 
  itsimpossibly ambitious 300+ volume release schedule! Get it 
  here:http://tracker.zappateers.com/torrents-details.php?id=345dllist=1#seedersNaturally, 
  just like Vol 1 (Madison 11-Aug-1984), I will provide CD-Rcopies for the 
  technologically-disadvantaged. Don't be shy now.The blurb:"Not 
  much to say about this one! Here is what it says on the cassette:"A 
  Feast of Friends" - KMPC Radio 8-Jan-1989 w/Alan LaddBroadway The Hardway 
  explained and more with Frank.FM BroadcastPhilips type 1 (ferro 
  position) 90min cassetteCDWaveFLAC Frontend.I split the 
  interview the interview into two:A feast of 
  friends1.flac:22e9cf60137b32519557e73d67629d87A feast of 
  friends2.flac:8ee2e951515681c565c247192cdb9fcbThat's 
  it!itsonlydanny pseudo-production Vol 
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Re: [Zappa-List] The New Dylan, Lennon - maybe Zappa?

2005-05-05 Thread SOFA





Did he "get through", Dawayne? The bit was 'titled' "lost tracks" or 
something like that. Did that really air? It's a great tune and your Dylan 
likeness is spot on...
Maybe there's hope for us yet?
SOFA

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  Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 1:02 
AM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] The New Dylan, 
  Lennon - maybe Zappa?
  In an age of such political correctness, it's amazing to see 
  someone who got through the network censors and actually got to speak his 
  mind on national television. Could this guy be the new Bob Dylan - the new 
  John Lennon - the newon well, he'll probably piss you off - but I 
  love the guy:watch him on Leno:http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=Bright_Eyes_Leno05.02.05_high80His 
  name is Conor Oberst (Bright Eyes) and he's from Omaha, 
  Nebraskahttp://www.saddle-creek.comhttp://www.saddle-creek.com/bands/brighteyeshttp://www.wichita-recordings.com/bands.htm#bright


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[Zappa-List] A Question of DVD formats

2005-05-09 Thread SOFA





With the recent discussion of DVD formats, I have a related question. What 
format is used in Japan? I have to send a DVD there for my daughter to use in 
Jap machines and I don't know which format to use. Anyone?
TIA 
SOFA



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Re: [Zappa-List] Wanted - 30 Nov 1980, Des Moines, IA - anybody has it???

2005-05-12 Thread SOFA





Might I ask what is "kinda special" about this particular show?
I've located it, but at 90 minutes audience rated B- I'm curious as to why 
this is so desired?
(I didn't say that I had it, btw; I said that I've located it.)
Curious? You bet!
SOFA

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  Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 2:22 
AM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Wanted - 30 Nov 
  1980, Des Moines, IA - anybody has it???
  Hi Folks,Here goes my plea again:There was a show on 30 
  November 1980 at Des Moines, IA, which seems to be kinda special. 
  I'm really curious about this particular show, so maybe someone has got 
  this one and would like to share it, vine it or just trade it???Hey, Group 
  - any suggestions ?Best 
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Re: Re: [Zappa-List] Wanted - 30 Nov 1980, Des Moines, IA - anybody has = it???

2005-05-12 Thread SOFA





Lemme see what I can do...
I'll keep y'all posted.
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2005 8:33 
AM
  Subject: Re: Re: [Zappa-List] Wanted - 30 
  Nov 1980, Des Moines, IA - anybody has = it???
  Uytkownik SOFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  napisa:Might I ask what is "kinda special" about this particular 
  show?I\'ve located it, but at 90 minutes audience rated B- I\'m 
  curious as to why this is so desired?(I didn\'t say that I had it, 
  btw; I said that I\'ve located it.)Curious? You 
  bet!SOFAHi SOFA,not that I've been at that show or 
  something like that,I've read that description which made me eager...that 
  thing about playing out of the head ya know...Isn't that kinda special? 
  Bart30-Nov 1980, Des Moines, IA 90 min, Aud, B- The 
  sickest songlist you've ever seen. In the "medley", FZ simply tells the band 
  to play things from the top of his head, and most of the songs are far from 
  complete or well-rehearsed. You Are What You Is, Love Of My Life, Flakes, 
  Magic Fingers, The Blue Light, Tinseltown Rebellion, Pick Me I'm Clean, Dead 
  Girls Of London (incl The Royal March From Aida), Shall We Take Ourselves 
  Seriously?, City Of Tiny Lites, guitar solo, White Christmas, ?, Stella By 
  Starlight, Harbour Lights, My Sharona/Ave Maria, My Sharona/Funiculi Funicula, 
  Lassie, Theme From "I Love Lucy", Black Magic Woman (sung by Barrow!), Macho 
  Man, In The Navy, Improvisation Full Of Landini Cadenzes, guitar solo, Oh! 
  Susanna, The Warren Zevon Songbook, AAAFNRAA No Problem, Drum 
  Solo/In-A-Gadda-Da-Voodoo Butter, Heavy Duty Judy, Broken Hearts Are For 
  Assholes, I'm So Cute, Andy (incl Funiculi Funicula, Light Cavalry Overture), 
  Joe's Garage, Dancin' Fool, The Illinois Enema Bandit (incl Sweet Leilani) 
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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO - Steve Allen Show on DVD And much more

2005-05-16 Thread SOFA





Chrisforeman2002-US  Dawayne Bailey  Thierry barbier 
 Richard  lusi tanio  John-US (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...)  [EMAIL PROTECTED]...  
I can't help but wonder here if everyone on this vine list REALIZES that 
they are responsible for copying the masters and passing the originals along. I 
have a sneaking suspicion that a couple may not...
Trying to avoid a potential "issue" here.
SOFA

"Jim - I don't know how or when I can get a copy of both of these DVDs, 
but if I do, are these playable on regular home DVD units or just on 
computer only? Thanks for sharing all of this great classic Zappa 
stuff!Dawayne"


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Re: [Zappa-List] Get Your Degree in Zappa

2005-05-17 Thread SOFA





Gee, I don't know...
I mean, I'm - like - pushing 50... Should I go back to school?
You know, with a family and everything (mortgage, huge debt, no exciting 
prospects on the horizon, basically a loser in questionable clothing); should I 
be considering a change in careers at this late a date?
But then again, lighting has always excited me...
SOFA

  At Last! THE 
  antidote to the rotten excuse for "MUSIC EDUCATION" in public 
  schools.This is choice boys and girls. Long live FRANK and his 
  work!


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Re: [Zappa-List] What Some Kids Do With Their Spare Time These Days

2005-05-17 Thread SOFA





Is this your son, Dawayne?
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dawayne Bailey 
  
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 11:18 
PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] What Some Kids Do 
  With Their Spare Time These Days
  https://home.comcast.net/~davidsole/8-year_old_virtuoso.wmv 



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Re: [Zappa-List] VO 2DVD set TTNS and 1973 KCET liberated Room 101 bootleg

2005-05-23 Thread SOFA





Travis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) 
 Allan Bartlett 

  Allan 
  Bartlett5644 E. 6th St.Tucson, AZ 85711-2446Thank 
  YouPlease look for Travis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) to continue the 
  vineback to members of this egroup.Mike W. 
   Disc 1  The famose Room 101 version of the 1973 KCET 
  show   Disc 2  Frank Zappa 
  10/31/1981  The Torture Never Stops  
01. Black Napkins  02. Montana  03. 
  Easy Meat  04. Beauty Knows no Pain  05. I'm a 
  Beautiful Guy  06. Charlie's Enormous Mouth  07. Fine 
  Girl  08. Teenage Wind  09. Harder Than your 
  Husband  10. Bamboozled by Love  11. We're Turning 
  Again  12. Alien Orifice  13. Flakes  14. 
  Broken Hearts are for Assholes  15. You Are What You Is 
   16. Mudd Club  17. The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing 
   18. Dumb All Over  19. Heavenly Bank Account  20. 
  Suicide Chump  21. Jumbo Go Away  22. Stevie's 
  Spanking  23. The Torture Never Stops  24. Strictly 
  Genteel  25. The Illinois Enema Bandit   
  Band:  FZ, Ray White, Steve Vai, Scott Thunes, Tommy Mars, Bobby 
  Martin,Ed  Mann,  Chad 
Wackerman


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Re: [Zappa-List] VO: 23-5-71 Ohio Theater/Columbus, OH 2 discs audio

2005-05-25 Thread SOFA





Bart  John 

It does seem that way at times, does it not?
And I have noticed (and appreciate) some of the recent 'corrections' you've 
made on these, Richard, thank you...
I guess old habits are hard to break.
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Richard 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 3:59 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] VO: 23-5-71 
  Ohio Theater/Columbus, OH 2 discs audio
  
  lol, hey SOFA, no one is listening!
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Bart 
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2005 7:54 
AM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] VO: 23-5-71 
Ohio Theater/Columbus, OH 2 discs audio
Here goes my second announcement:First person 
contacting me with the promise gets 
it.CheersBart


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[Zappa-List] Latest update to theBIGnote dot com

2005-05-30 Thread SOFA





For those playing the home game, www.thebignote.com has just updated. The 
second disk of the Gesprochenen Lite project is available, as well as George 
Duke's OOP "The Aura Will Prevail", and some music by TBN members. There's also 
some new artwork to view (like the CD cover art for the Gesprochenen set) and 
fetish, plus some new writing.
Check it out and enjoy!
Regards,
SOFA


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Re: [Zappa-List] VO-Frank Zappa on Larry King 1985

2005-05-31 Thread SOFA





I did a search of the messages on this one, Chris. The best I can tell is 
Dawayne Bailey is the only one who expressed an interest, who has not received 
it. Dawayne, if you could chime in if you're still interested, please?
Otherwise, Chris, you're the last of the line - for now...
Regards,
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  chris 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 8:51 AM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] VO-Frank Zappa on 
  Larry King 1985
  
  
  

  Hi folks, 
  Thanks to Joe D I have this to send to the next person, although I have 
  lost the lineage.Doh! Could some one help me out here, I would greatly 
  appreciate it!
  Thanks!
  Chris


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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: A Rare Article from 1971

2005-05-31 Thread SOFA





The first link worked fine for me, Dawayne.
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dawayne Bailey 
  
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 12:36 
  AM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: A Rare Article 
  from 1971
  --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, 
  "Dawayne Bailey" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... 
  wrote: This is an article from my high school newspaper called The 
  Mentor  (Manhattan High School) from Manhattan, Kansas - I'm the guy 
  on the  left in the photo - playing a grand piano. It proves how long 
  I've  been a Zappa freak: http://snipurl.com/fa3xsorry - 
  let's see if this link works: http://tinyurl.com/8pos3 
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Re: [Zappa-List] MITB

2005-06-01 Thread SOFA





Richard,
DO NOT mail this until you hear from Gabriel; he may be awol and I'd hate 
for this set to get hung up. If he doesn't respond in 3 days, send it to the 
next person after him and move his name to last.
Thanks!
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
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  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 4:45 
  PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] MITB
  
  Correct me if I am wrong, cos I nearly sent this 
  to the wrong person who was fantastic and pointed out my silly mistake, but 
  MITB should be going to Gabriel in Brazil 
  next?
  
  Gabriel, Please send me your postal 
  address?
  
  Thanks to Conehead/Christian for pointing out the 
  error of my ways!For further Z-related fun, please 
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Re: [Zappa-List] MITB

2005-06-01 Thread SOFA





I apologize Gabriel... When I saw you quick response, I realized it is 
Roberto (Potato-Head Bobby) that is absent...
Oh well, with 500+ friends to keep track of, I guess I'm allowed a 
lapse.
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Gabriel 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:24 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] MITB
  Sofa, it´s always good to be cautious, but here I am! (rock you 
  like ahurricane)I´ll email 
Richard.Gabriel


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Re: [Zappa-List] Zappa Plays Zappa - Tour De Frank

2005-06-03 Thread SOFA





Been reading a lot about it - most of it on the negative side...
I'm with you Jim. I'd go, if they came to my area.
SOFA

  
  I'd go if I had the plane fair ;-) 
  
  
  After watching that I'm thinking it 
  would probably be interesting and entertaining. Are you thinking about going 
  Cris?
  
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Re: [Zappa-List] Hello, it's me - Danny!

2005-06-07 Thread SOFA





I think it was a question of vine progress, Danny; but I'm not involved. 
I'm sure the interested parties will pipe in soon.
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Danny 
  ODare 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 9:00 
AM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Hello, it's me - 
  Danny!
  I've heard a rumour that someone - or some people - are trying 
  tocontact me. Well, I'm here! How can i 
  assist?cheers,Danny 
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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO : Pittsburgh 13 Nov 1980 late show (FLAC Audio)

2005-06-12 Thread SOFA





I see no reason why not... Flag it as a new one, and have a go.
SOFA

  splitting this into two 
  vines. Logical?
  
  thanks,
  Joseph


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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO : Pittsburgh 13 Nov 1980 EARLY show (FLAC Audio)

2005-06-12 Thread SOFA





Mike  Bart  Richard Moore-UK 
Chris Foreman USADavid G-US
Then maybe we should change this subject line?
Anyone who wishes to bail on this one, please strike your name from the 
list.
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  abxer3p 

  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 11:50 
PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO : 
  Pittsburgh 13 Nov 1980 late show (FLAC Audio)
  
  Looking at it again, the disc I wound up with is for 
  the *early* show, heh.
  
  If anyone wants the early show (FLAC), gimme a 
  call.
  
  Joseph
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
abxer3p 

To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 4:08 
PM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO : 
Pittsburgh 13 Nov 1980 late show (FLAC Audio)

On June 2nd, Pete Restall posted the message at the 
bottom. The last I heard no one had contacted him. Since David 
sent the below message, I have an idea if all approve. I still have a 
copy of this vine which I could send to Chris F. sinec I am in the US, 
basically splitting this into two vines. Logical?

thanks,
Joseph

  Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 8:12 
  AM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: VO : 
  Pittsburgh 13 Nov 1980 late show (FLAC Audio)
  
  I think I got skipped in this vine, so I'm adding myself to the 
  end.Mike  Bart  Richard Moore-UK Chris 
  Foreman USADavid G-US

  Due to an administrive error... er cock up on my partI've 
  posted 13 Nov 1980 Pittsburgh FLAC disc to the Americas and not the 
  disc I should haveIf you are waiting for 13 Nov 1980 Pittsburgh FLAC 
  disc from me please email me and Joesph (hello Joseph) will kindly 
  forward it on.Apologies to allBest regardsPeteFor 
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[Zappa-List] VO JEFF SIMMONS + ZAPPED VINE

2005-06-18 Thread SOFA





John  Dawayne 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Dawayne Bailey 
  
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 1:21 
  PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: NEW JEFF 
  SIMMONS + ZAPPED VINE
  --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, "John 
  Goddard" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... 
  wrote: Its 1969 all over again! A Zappa Related Disc all 
  the LP Artwork too made up for CD's are oon the CD 
  VINEI'd be happy to copy this and send it on to the next 
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Re: [Zappa-List] VO JEFF SIMMONS + ZAPPED VINE

2005-06-19 Thread SOFA





John  Dawayne  Chris Foreman  JoeDP-US  [EMAIL PROTECTED] -US 
 Richard-UK  Cris H-UK SOFA-US 
Welcome to the group, John!
Yes, you send the vine to Dawayne and he passes it on. There's a FAQ at the 
Zappa-List yahoo page in the Files section that explains how we like to do vines 
at the List. I took the liberty of setting your vine up correctly (and have 
added my name to the vine - see above).
Enjoy your stay!
Music is the Best.
SOFA

  
  Thanks Chris
  I Read the reviews Batman is 
  back!!!
  
  I am new to how Zappa list does its 
  vinesi send it to Dawayne and hesends itdown the 
  line?
  
  Please advise me 
  Regards
  
  John


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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: DVDs Saturday Night live and Mudd Club (Europe Vine)

2005-06-19 Thread SOFA





That is a very generous offer, Luis...
(Michael, I hope you're reading this.) I guess Michael will contact you to 
take you up on it... Personally, I wouldn't mind copies of these myself, but I 
cannot burn DVD, so I can't pass it along. If anyone has these and would care to 
trade for them with audio CD, contact me off-list.
Happy Father's Day to all the dear-old-dads out there.
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  lusi 
  tanio 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:30 
PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: DVDs 
  Saturday Night live and Mudd Club (Europe Vine)
  
  well, i can make a copy to michael or anyone else.
  Luis


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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: DVDs Saturday Night live and Mudd Club (Europe Vine)

2005-06-19 Thread SOFA





Sweet offer, Cris - thank you. Is it possible for you to burn NTSC? I'm not 
sure if my player will recognize PAL (It's a little over a year old; what do you 
think?)
Michael, if you're reading this; simply re-offer those which Luis sends - 
and a huge thanks for your offer as well.
You guys are making me all misty...
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Cris 
  Haldenby 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 2:26 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: DVDs 
  Saturday Night live and Mudd Club (Europe Vine)
  Seeing as I started this one off, I'll do you a copy 
  SOFA.I'll get it in the post mid week.CrisOn 19 Jun 
  2005, at 3:58 pm, SOFA wrote:That is a very generous offer, 
  Luis...(Michael, I hope you're reading this.) I guess Michael will contact 
  you to take you up on it... Personally, I wouldn't mind copies of 
  these myself, but I cannot burn DVD, so I can't pass it along. If 
  anyone has these and would care to trade for them with audio CD, 
  contact me off-list.Happy Father's Day to all the dear-old-dads 
  out there.SOFA - Original Message - From: lusi 
  tanio To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: 
  DVDs Saturday Night live and Mudd Club  (Europe 
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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: DVDs Saturday Night live and Mudd Club (Europe Vine)

2005-06-19 Thread SOFA





I guess I answered that then. The Barcelona you sent me plays on my 
machine, but not on my DVD player... But then, I spend no time in the TV room 
(outside of football season), and much time in my computer room. So I guess 
either format works for me (tho' watching it on a larger screen would be nice, 
simply watching it is the desired goal).
This little episode has shown me just how "illiterate" I've become in the 
digital video realm; I don't know Jack (couldn't tell ya the difference between 
DVD and VCD).
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jim 
  L 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 2:50 PM
  Subject: RE: [Zappa-List] Re: DVDs 
  Saturday Night live and Mudd Club (Europe Vine)
  
  
  I think 
  the Barcelona DVD I sent a good while ago was PAL SOFA. If it plays ok you 
  should be good to go. 
  
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Re: Re: [Zappa-List] VO: JEFF SIMMONS + ZAPPED VINE

2005-06-20 Thread SOFA





John  Dawayne  Chris Foreman  JoeDP-US  [EMAIL PROTECTED] -US 
 Richard-UK  Cris H-UK SOFA-US  Bart-PL 

is actually correct.
Yes, Bart, this is Simmons' solo album, plus a WB "Loss Leader" compilation 
that features Bizarre/Straight artists, like Alice Cooper, the GTO's, Tim 
Buckley, etc. (Zappa  The Mothers too, of course).
Regards,
SOFA

PS. Bart, I've located the Des Moines show you were looking for; I should 
have it in a couple weeks.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Bart 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:14 AM
  Subject: Re: Re: [Zappa-List] VO: JEFF 
  SIMMONS + ZAPPED VINE
  Albeit I don't know what is this, I'm curious so I'm 
  joining.Could one tell what is this vine about? Is it Jeff Simmons solo 
  album?ThanksBartJohn  Dawayne  Chris 
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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: JEFF SIMMONS + ZAPPED VINE

2005-06-20 Thread SOFA





John  Dawayne  Chris Foreman  JoeDP-US  [EMAIL PROTECTED]-US 
 Richard-UK  Cris H-UK SOFA-US  Bart-PL  
Andre-NL 
(It's that simple, Andre)
SOFA
hello 
  Sofaplease add me to the vine.thanks and 
  regardsAndreNetherlands


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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: JEFF SIMMONS + ZAPPED VINE

2005-06-20 Thread SOFA





Not at the moment, rabbitt; but there is one with Howard  Mark as Flo 
 Eddie making the rounds, and one when they guested with Frank in the later 
70's. None with the 70-71 line-up tho' that I can recall...
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  WHITE 
  RABBITT 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 6:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: JEFF 
  SIMMONS + ZAPPED VINE
  
  any vines for the 
  mothers with howard kaplanCarsten Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  
On 6/20/05, SOFA 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: 

  John  Dawayne  Chris Foreman  
  JoeDP-US  [EMAIL PROTECTED] -US  
  Richard-UK  Cris H-UK SOFA-US  Bart-PL  
  Andre-NL Carsten-DK
huh - if it's that simple, I've just added myself to the vine. 
If I've misunderstood something - bear with me:D 
Carstensnip

  (It's that simple, Andre)
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Re: [Zappa-List] NEW JEFF SIMMONS + ZAPPED VINE

2005-06-21 Thread SOFA





Read the FAQ in the files section, Tom...
Basically a vine is a way we share music. Some one offers up a recording, 
and a list is created. The recording gets mailed to each member in turn; they 
make a copy for themselves, and pass the originals on to the next one on the 
list.
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Tom Tuerff 
  
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:25 
PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW JEFF 
  SIMMONS + ZAPPED VINE
  Pardon my complete ignorance but how do you 
  DOWNLOADthis stuff? What is this VINE you guys keep talkingabout? 
  Where is it? How do you do it?TT--- John Goddard [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: 
  Its 1969 all over again! A Zappa Related Disc all the LP Artwork too 
  made up for CD's are oon the CD VINE Heres Two that 
  never made it to cd i looked at the STRAIGHT Catalogue oh what a set 
  of discs oh what a massive massive shame THAT THESE DISCS are 
  never in print, What happened? Enigma Retro 1989! is that it?? 
  ah Trout Mask Replica carries theflag through!  Who owns these 
  Straight tapes? Herb Cohen?? Rhino? Warners? Zappa Estate? Any 
  crumb of info would be gratefully received!  Please respond in 
  the usual manner with a promise to re vine  
  John --- JEFF 
  SIMMONS - LUCILLE HAS MESSED UP MY MIND (1969) FLAC FORMAT 
  Straight 1057  1. Appian Way 2. Zondo Zondo 3. Madame 
  Du Barry 4. Lucille Has Messed Up My Mind 5. Ray 6. 
  Wonderful Wino 7. Tigres 8. Aqueous Humore 9. 
  Conversation With A Recluse   Personnel:  Jeff 
  Simmons gtr  Randy Steirling  John Kehlior 
  drms  Craig Tarwater gtr  Ian 
  Underwood gtr  Ron Woods drms  
  Frank Zappa gtr  
  -- 
  ZAPPED (1969) APE FORMAT I Have created Some CD Artwork for this 
  set! The sampler was called Zapped, was available mail-order 
  from Warner Brothers in the States, and was a real loss-leader, 
  selling for just one dollar. It featured tracks from albums by Frank 
  Zappa, The Mothers of Invention, Wild Man Fischer, The GTOs, 
  Tim Buckley, Tim Dawe, Jeff Simmons, Lord Buckley, Alice Cooper, and 
  the redoubtable Captain Beefheart.  Zappéd  
  (various artists, Bizarre/Reprise 368, November 10, 1969) 
   1. Alice Cooper: Titanic Overture 
  01:09 2. Captain Beefheart  His Magic Band: The 
  Blimp (mousetrapreplica) 02:04 3. Judy 
  Henske  Jerry Yester: St Nicholas Hall 4. Tim 
  Buckley: I Must Have Been Blind 03:40 5. Wild Man 
  Fischer: Merry-Go-Round 01:56 6. Alice Cooper: 
  Refrigerator Heaven 7. Tim Dawe: Little Boy Blue 
  02:15 8. Lord Buckley: Governor 
  Slugwell 9. Jeff Simmons: Lucille Has Messed My Mind 
  Up 03:14 10. Captain Beefheart  His 
  Magic Band: Old Fart at Play 01:54 11. The 
  Mothers of Invention: Holiday in Berlin, Full 
  Blown 12. GTOs: Do Me In Once And I'll Be Sad, Do Me 
  In Twice And I'll Know Better (Circular Circulation) 
  02:19 13. Frank Zappa: Willie the Pimp 
  09:25 
  There is also a software folder on the 
  disc--- 
  STRAIGHT RECORDS  STS 1051 - Pretties for You - Alice Cooper 
  [1969]  STS 1052 - Farewell Aldebaran - Judy Henske  
  Jerry Yester [1969]  STS 1053 - Trout Mask Replica - Captain 
  Beefheart  His Magic Band [1969]  STS 1054 - A Most 
  Immaculately Hip Aristocrat - Lord Buckley [1969]  
  1055 STS 1056 - Naked Angels - Jeff Simmons  Randy 
  Steirling [1969] *STS 1057 - Lucille Has Messed My Mind Up - 
  Jeff Simmons [1969]  *STS 1058 - Penrod - Tim Dawe [1969] 
   STS 1059 - Permanent Damage - G.T.O.'s [1969]  STS 1060 - 
  Blue Afternoon - Tim Buckley [1969]  STS 1061 - Easy Action - Alice 
  Cooper [1969]  STS 1062 - Acappella - Persuasions [1970]  STS 
  1063 - Lick My Decals Off, Baby - Captain Beefheart  Magic Band 
  [1970]  STS 1064 - Starsailor - Tim Buckley [1971] STS 1065 - 
  Love It to Death - Alice Cooper [1971]   
   
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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: JEFF SIMMONS + ZAPPED VINE

2005-06-21 Thread SOFA





I've got this one coming to me, along with the Late show counterpart. I'll 
be happy to offer them up once they've arrived...
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Cris 
  Haldenby 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:35 
AM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: JEFF 
  SIMMONS + ZAPPED VINE
  
  I've got the following show from 1970, not sure if it's done the rounds 
  or not.
  
  Cris
  
  --
  
  Fillmore East-NYC Late Show
  11/14/70 
  
  01. Kip Cohen IntroPalladin and Hey Boy (theme song from T.V. show 
  Have Gun Will Travel) (2:37)
  02. Call Any Vegetable (10:12)
  03. Sanzini Brothers (1:28)
  04. Does This Kind of Life Look Interesting to You? (0:55)
  05. Pound For a Brown (7:16)
  06. Sleeping in a Jar (instrumental) (2:51)
  07. El Porko the Magnificent (2:00)
  08. Sharleena (5:30)
  09. The Air (2:57)
  10. Dog Breath (2:07)
  11. Mother People (2:08)
  12. You Didn't Try to Call Me (3:14)
  13. King Kong (2:19)
  --
  
  
  
  
  On 21 Jun 2005, at 1:35 am, Jim L wrote:
  
  I’ll 
  be on the lookout for any that becomes available and will vine it when found. 
  I for one am especially fond of the ’70 to ’77 stuff.
  
  Jim 
  L
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com] 
  On Behalf Of 
  SOFASent: Monday, 
  June 20, 2005 7:04 PMTo: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: 
  [Zappa-List] Re: VO: JEFF SIMMONS + ZAPPED VINE
  
  
  Not at the moment, 
  rabbitt; but there is one with Howard  Mark as Flo  Eddie making the 
  rounds, and one when they guested with Frank in the later 70's. None with the 
  70-71 line-up tho' that I can recall...
  
  SOFA
  

- Original Message 
-

From: 
WHITE 
RABBITT

To: 
Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Monday, 
June 20, 2005 6:13 PM

Subject: Re: 
[Zappa-List] Re: VO: JEFF SIMMONS + ZAPPED 
VINE



any 
vines for the mothers with howard kaplanCarsten 
Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 6/20/05, SOFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

John  Dawayne 
 Chris Foreman  JoeDP-US  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
-US  
Richard-UK  Cris H-UK SOFA-US  Bart-PL  
Andre-NL Carsten-DK

huh - if it's that 
simple, I've just added myself to the vine. If I've misunderstood something 
- bear with me:D Carstensnip

  
  
  (It's that simple, 
  Andre)
  
  SOFA
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Re: [Zappa-List] JEFF SIMMONS was Fillmore East

2005-06-22 Thread SOFA





The date is debatable. Joni Mitchell is said to have been there on the 
13th, so this is most likely the 14... and neither recording is very long, but 
great quality - or so I understand.
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Bart 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 3:43 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] JEFF SIMMONS 
  was Fillmore East
  Howdy,First thing - isn't it 13 Nov 1970 show? (not 
  14th ???)Second thing - I'm looking for this as well as I have already 
  late show from 13th but it's only +20 mins long...but also I think I'm 
  having the early show of that day...So yes, I'm looking forward to this 
  forthcoming vine - thanks Sofa and 
  Cris!CheersBartUżytkownik SOFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  napisał:I\'ve got this one coming to me, along with the Late show 
  counterpart. I\'ll be happy to offer them up once they\'ve 
  arrived...SOFA - Original Message - 
   From: Cris Haldenby  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
   Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:35 AM Subject: Re: 
  [Zappa-List] Re: VO: JEFF SIMMONS + ZAPPED VINE 
  I\'ve got the following show from 1970, not sure if it\'s done the rounds or 
  not. Cris 
  -- 
  Fillmore East-NYC Late Show 11/14/70 
   01. Kip Cohen IntroPalladin and Hey Boy 
  (theme song from T.V. show Have Gun Will Travel) (2:37) 02. Call 
  Any Vegetable (10:12) 03. Sanzini Brothers (1:28) 
  04. Does This Kind of Life Look Interesting to You? (0:55) 05. 
  Pound For a Brown (7:16) 06. Sleeping in a Jar (instrumental) 
  (2:51) 07. El Porko the Magnificent (2:00) 08. 
  Sharleena (5:30) 09. The Air (2:57) 10. Dog Breath 
  (2:07) 11. Mother People (2:08) 12. You Didn\'t 
  Try to Call Me (3:14) 13. King Kong 
  (2:19) 
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Re: [Zappa-List] JEFF SIMMONS was Fillmore East

2005-06-22 Thread SOFA





This is what I expect to receive; tho' Jim, you can start this ball 
rolling, if you're so inclined - mine's going to be another week or so...
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jim 
  L 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 10:01 
  AM
  Subject: RE: [Zappa-List] JEFF SIMMONS 
  was Fillmore East
  
  
  I just obtained both 
  the early and late show from this questionable date via Dime. This might be an 
  upgrade if only 20 minutes were available before? Here are the details. Seems 
  like there was a mention of a second source being used to complete the early 
  show. 
  
  Frank Zappa 
  
  and the Mothers of 
  Invention
  Fillmore East-NYC 
  Early Show
  11/14/70
  
  Source: 
  SBD10"MR7"ReelRevoxB77 
  playbackAlesisMasterlinkCD
  and 
  
  SBD10"MRRevox 
  B77 playbackAlesis MasterlinkCD - Wino 
  ManEnd
  
  01. Jam to get Grace 
  Slick onstage
  02. Sanzini 
  Brothers
  03. Little House I 
  Used To Live In
  04. Penis 
  Dimension
  05. 
  Mudshark
  06. Holiday In 
  Berlin (Including Inca Roads and Easy Meat Themes)
  07. Cruising For 
  Burgers
  08. Sanzini 
  Brothers Pyramid Trick
  09. What Will This 
  Morning Bring Me This Evening?
  10. What Kind Of 
  Girl Do You Think We Are
  11. Bwana 
  Dik
  12. Latex Solar 
  Beef
  13. Daddy, Daddy, 
  Daddy
  14. Do You Like My 
  New Car?
  15. Happy 
  Together
  16. Wino Man (Dr. 
  John Routine)
  17. Concentration 
  Moon
  18. Sanzini 
  Brothers School Of Broadcast
  19. Jeff Simmons 
  Bass Solo
  20. Concentration 
  Moon
  21. Mom And 
  Dad
  22. Encore 
  Jam//
  
  
  EAC (secure, offset 
  corrected), Flac level 8, and sector boundaries verified with shntool by 
  D.Winters - 03/07/05.
  
  Frank Zappa 
  
  and the Mothers of 
  Invention
  Fillmore East-NYC 
  Late Show
  11/14/70 
  
  
  Source: 
  SBDMRReelAlesis MasterlinkCD
  
  01. Kip Cohen 
  IntroPalladin and Hey Boy (theme song from T.V. show Have Gun Will Travel) 
  (2:37)
  02. Call Any 
  Vegetable (10:12)
  03. Sanzini Brothers 
  (1:28)
  04. Does This Kind 
  of Life Look Interesting to You? (0:55)
  05. Pound For a 
  Brown (7:16)
  06. Sleeping in a 
  Jar (instrumental) (2:51)
  07. El Porko the 
  Magnificent (2:00)
  08. Sharleena 
  (5:30)
  09. The Air 
  (2:57)
  10. Dog Breath 
  (2:07)
  11. Mother People 
  (2:08)
  12. You Didn't Try 
  to Call Me (3:14)
  13. King Kong 
  (2:19)
  (Encore not 
  recorded)
  
  EAC (secure, offset 
  corrected), Flac level 8, and sector boundaries verified with shntool by 
  D.Winters - 03/07/05.
  
  
  Jim L 
  
  
  
  
  
  From: 
  Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of SOFASent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:35 
  AMTo: 
  Zappa-List@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [Zappa-List] JEFF SIMMONS 
  was Fillmore East
  
  
  The date is debatable. Joni Mitchell is said to have 
  been there on the 13th, so this is most likely the 14... and neither recording 
  is very long, but great quality - or so I understand.
  
  SOFA
  

- Original Message - 


From: Bart 


To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 


Sent: 
Wednesday, June 22, 2005 3:43 AM

Subject: Re: 
[Zappa-List] JEFF SIMMONS was Fillmore East


Howdy,First thing - isn't it 13 
Nov 1970 show? (not 14th ???)Second thing - I'm looking for this as well 
as I have already late show from 13th but it's only +20 mins long...but 
also I think I'm having the early show of that day...So yes, I'm looking 
forward to this forthcoming vine - thanks Sofa and 
Cris!CheersBartUżytkownik SOFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
napisał:I\'ve got this one coming to me, along with the Late show 
counterpart. I\'ll be happy to offer them up once they\'ve 
    arrived...SOFA - Original Message - 
 From: Cris Haldenby  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:35 AM Subject: 
Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO: JEFF SIMMONS + ZAPPED 
VINE I\'ve got the following show from 1970, 
not sure if it\'s done the rounds or not. 
Cris 
-- 
Fillmore East-NYC Late Show 11/14/70 
 01. Kip Cohen IntroPalladin and Hey Boy 
(theme song from T.V. show Have Gun Will Travel) (2:37) 02. 
Call Any Vegetable (10:12) 03. Sanzini Brothers 
(1:28) 04. Does This Kind of Life Look Interesting to You? 
(0:55) 05. Pound For a Brown (7:16) 06. Sleeping 
in a Jar (instrumental) (2:51) 07. El Porko the Magnificent 
(2:00) 08. Sharleena (5:30) 09. The Air 
(2:57) 10. Dog Breath (2:07) 11. Mother People 
(2:08) 12. You Didn\'t Try to Call Me (3:14) 13. 
King Kong (2:19) 
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Re: [Zappa-List] RE: Vine Open 1970-11-14? early and late Fillmore East-NYC+...

2005-06-22 Thread SOFA





Jim L US  
Chris US  Bart  mr. skull  Richard-UK  
Milhouse-US  white rabbitt-US  Nick Ullmann-UK 


Both rabbitt and nick expressed an interest, so I'm adding their names 
'less they fall even farther down the line...
SOFA


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 3:56 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] RE: Vine Open 
  1970-11-14? early and late Fillmore East-NYC+...
  
  
  I'd very much like to get in on this as well, I haven't gotten anything 
  new in a good while (got kind of burned out with all the stuff coming in some 
  months ago)
  
Jim L US  
Chris US  Bart  mr. skull  Richard-UK  
Milhouse-US
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Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS

2005-06-24 Thread SOFA





This will probably make a monkey out of me, but what the hell is APE 
format???
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  John Goddard 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:44 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - 
  PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS
  
  Heres a new vine its one disc in 
  APE FORMAT So the full Artwork is on there too!
  
  
  John
  ---
  
  Permanent Damage (GTO's, LP, Straight 
  STS 1059, December 8, 1969)
  
   The Eureka 
  Springs Garbage Lady Miss Pamela and Miss Sparky 
  discuss STUFFED BRAS and some of their early gym class 
  experiences Who's Jim 
  Sox? Kansas and the 
  BTO's The Captain's Fat Theresa 
  Shoes Wouldn't It Be Sad If There Were No 
  Cones? Do Me In Once And I'll Be Sad, Do Me In 
  Twice And I'll Know Better (Circular Circulation) 
  The Moche Monster TV 
  Lives Rodney I Have A 
  Paintbrush In My Hand To Color A Triangle Miss 
  Christine's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of 
  Chicago The Original 
  GTO's The Ghost Chained To The Past, Present, And 
  Future (Shock Treatment) Love On An Eleven Year 
  Old Level Miss Pamela's First Conversation With 
  The Plaster Casters Of Chicago I'm In Love With 
  The Ooo-Ooo Man
  
   Frank Zappa - 
  Producer Lowell George - 
  Producer Sparky (Sparkie Parker) - 
  Composer David Jones - Composer
  
   Miss Christine 
  - Vocals Miss Cinderella - 
  Vocals Miss Mercy - 
  Vocals Miss Pamela - 
  Vocals Miss Sandra - 
  Vocals + Ian Underwood 
  - Keyboards Don Preston - 
  Synthesizer Roy Estrada - 
  Bass Jimmy Carl Black - 
  Drums Frank Zappa - 
  Tambourine Jeff Beck - 
  Guitar Rod Stewart - 
  Vocals Nicky Hopkins - 
  Keyboards Craig Doerge - 
  Keyboards + Rodney 
  Bingenheimer vocals
  
   Frank Zappa is 
  widely believed to have created the GTOs as an experiment, like a joke band. 
  They played live with the Mothers of Invention, 
  and 
  some 
  famous muso- style musicians played backing music for them.
  
   GTO stood for 
  lots of things, including: Girls Together 
  Outrageously, GirlsTogether Occasionally, Girls 
  Together Only, and Girls Together Often.
  
   They didn't 
  play their own instruments, they took a lot of drugs and 
  they had a lot of sex. They were girl freaks 
  who liked the company of other girl freaks. They 
  knew Tiny Tim. Some of them were ex-juvenile delinquents. Some of them were 
  street kids.   
  Miss Christine OD/d and died at the Modern Lovers' house in Cohasset, 
  Massachusetts in 1972.
  
   Their only 
  album is 'Permanent Damage,' released in 1969, and 
  later reissued in 1989.
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Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS

2005-06-24 Thread SOFA





Okay, so we have something new to contend with...
Where does one find a free download of this APE shit? (no pun intended - 
come to think of it, that's pretty funny, so yeah pun intended) I assume it's 
out there for free somewhere?
You should fill us in on this John. I may be a day or two slow, but I'm not 
living under a rock and I have never heard of this format until just 
now...
Tell us what's up wi'dat!
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  John Goddard 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - 
  GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS
  
  SOFA
  Actually the de compress software you 
  use is called Monkeys Audio!
  You convert APE Files In to WAV Files 
  and burn them
  
  John
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
SOFA 

To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 

Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 11:07 
PM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - 
GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS

This will probably make a monkey out of me, but what the hell is APE 
format???
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  John Goddard 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  
  Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 5:44 
  PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - 
  GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS
  
  Heres a new vine its one disc 
  in APE FORMAT So the full Artwork is on there too!
  
  
  John
  ---
  
  Permanent Damage (GTO's, LP, 
  Straight STS 1059, December 8, 1969)
  
   The Eureka 
  Springs Garbage Lady Miss Pamela and Miss 
  Sparky discuss STUFFED BRAS and some of their early gym class 
  experiences Who's Jim 
  Sox? Kansas and the 
  BTO's The Captain's Fat Theresa 
  Shoes Wouldn't It Be Sad If There Were No 
  Cones? Do Me In Once And I'll Be Sad, Do Me In 
  Twice And I'll Know Better (Circular 
  Circulation) The Moche 
  Monster TV Lives 
  Rodney I Have A Paintbrush In My Hand To Color 
  A Triangle Miss Christine's First Conversation 
  With The Plaster Casters Of Chicago The 
  Original GTO's The Ghost Chained To The Past, 
  Present, And Future (Shock Treatment) Love On 
  An Eleven Year Old Level Miss Pamela's First 
  Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of 
  Chicago I'm In Love With The Ooo-Ooo 
  Man
  
   Frank 
  Zappa - Producer Lowell George - 
  Producer Sparky (Sparkie Parker) - 
  Composer David Jones - Composer
  
   Miss 
  Christine - Vocals Miss Cinderella - 
  Vocals Miss Mercy - 
  Vocals Miss Pamela - 
  Vocals Miss Sandra - 
  Vocals + Ian 
  Underwood - Keyboards Don Preston - 
  Synthesizer Roy Estrada - 
  Bass Jimmy Carl Black - 
  Drums Frank Zappa - 
  Tambourine Jeff Beck - 
  Guitar Rod Stewart - 
  Vocals Nicky Hopkins - 
  Keyboards Craig Doerge - 
  Keyboards + Rodney 
  Bingenheimer vocals
  
   Frank 
  Zappa is widely believed to have created the GTOs as an experiment, like a 
  joke band. They played live with the Mothers of Invention, 
  and 
  some 
  famous muso- style musicians played backing music for them.
  
   GTO stood 
  for lots of things, including: Girls Together 
  Outrageously, GirlsTogether Occasionally, 
  Girls Together Only, and Girls Together Often.
  
   They 
  didn't play their own instruments, they took a lot of drugs and 
  they had a lot of sex. They were girl 
  freaks who liked the company of other girl 
  freaks. They knew Tiny Tim. Some of them were 
  ex-juvenile delinquents. Some of them were street kids. 
Miss 
  Christine OD/d and died at the Modern Lovers' house in Cohasset, 
  Massachusetts in 1972.
  
   Their only 
  album is 'Permanent Damage,' released in 1969, and 
  later reissued in 1989.
  Now Out of Print and Unavailable 
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Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS

2005-06-24 Thread SOFA





Lemme handle this one, rabbitt...
I'll make sure you're included - if you can indeed do anything with 
this.
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  WHITE 
  RABBITT 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - 
  GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS
  
  im the one who started this 
  gto vine dont forget me, i asked for itScott Burnett 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: 
  I'll 
start, I guess.Scott Burnett - US  --- John Goddard 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: Heres a new vine its one disc in APE FORMAT So the 
full Artwork is on there too!   
John--- 
 Permanent Damage (GTO's, LP, Straight STS 1059, December 8, 
1969)  The Eureka Springs 
Garbage Lady Miss Pamela and Miss 
Sparky discuss STUFFED BRAS and some of their early gym class 
experiences Who's Jim 
Sox? Kansas and the 
BTO's The Captain's Fat Theresa 
Shoes Wouldn't It Be Sad If There Were 
No Cones? Do Me In Once And I'll Be 
Sad, Do Me In Twice And I'll Know Better (Circular 
Circulation) The Moche 
Monster TV 
Lives 
Rodney I Have A Paintbrush In My Hand 
To Color A Triangle Miss Christine's 
First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of 
Chicago The Original 
GTO's The Ghost Chained To The Past, 
Present, And Future (Shock Treatment) 
Love On An Eleven Year Old Level Miss 
Pamela's First Conversation With The Plaster Casters Of 
Chicago I'm In Love With The Ooo-Ooo 
Man  Frank Zappa - 
Producer Lowell George - 
Producer Sparky (Sparkie Parker) - 
Composer David Jones - 
Composer  Miss Christine - 
Vocals Miss Cinderella - 
Vocals Miss Mercy - 
Vocals Miss Pamela - 
Vocals Miss Sandra - 
Vocals 
+ Ian Underwood - 
Keyboards Don Preston - 
Synthesizer Roy Estrada - 
Bass Jimmy Carl Black - 
Drums Frank Zappa - 
Tambourine Jeff Beck - 
Guitar Rod Stewart - 
Vocals Nicky Hopkins - 
Keyboards Craig Doerge - 
Keyboards 
+ Rodney Bingenheimer vocals 
 Frank Zappa is widely believed to 
have created the GTOs as an experiment, like a joke band. They 
played live with the Mothers of Invention, 
and 
 some famous muso- style musicians 
played backing music for them. 
 GTO stood for lots of things, 
including: Girls Together 
Outrageously, GirlsTogether 
Occasionally, Girls Together Only, and Girls Together Often. 
 They didn't play their own 
instruments, they took a lot of drugs and 
they had a lot of sex. They were 
girl freaks who liked the company of other girl 
freaks. They knew Tiny Tim. Some of 
them were ex-juvenile delinquents. Some of them were street kids. 
 
 Miss Christine OD/d and died at 
the Modern Lovers' house in Cohasset, Massachusetts in 1972. 
 Their only album is 'Permanent 
Damage,' released in 1969, and later 
reissued in 1989. Now Out of Print and Unavailable 
Commercially!  
 
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Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS

2005-06-24 Thread SOFA





So, tell us what I win John...
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  John Goddard 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 6:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] NEW VINE - 
  GTO'S - PERMANENT DAMAGE- APE FORMAT W/ARTWORKS
  
  SOFA
  100% Correct
  
  John


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Re: [Zappa-List] GTOs Vine

2005-06-25 Thread SOFA





I'm actually okay with this, for the reasons Dawayne has mentioned - OOP, 
and not being sold...
But I do truly appreciate your watching out on this Jim...
I would not want to see vines from FZ catalogue (THAT big brother, or big 
sister actually, DOES watch out for that kind of stuff. Yes, we're walking a 
rather fine line, but I still have no problem with it.
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Jim 
  L 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 2:05 
  PM
  Subject: RE: [Zappa-List] GTOs Vine
  As nice as that sounds Dwayne I don't think we should start 
  down the path ofhaving vines of officially released and copyrighted CDs. 
  It's very illegaland shouldn't be tracked on this very public email list. 
  What's done offlist is just between the parties involved however. 
  SOFA?Jim L 


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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: GTOs Vine

2005-06-25 Thread SOFA





The GTO's (Girls Together Outrageously) we're the 'groupies' in a sense for 
the MOI.
When FZ moved into the original Log Cabin, there were some hippies 
squatting there: Carl Franzoni, and a couple of the girls that would become the 
GTO's. Frank did not evict them, but rather let them crash around the place - 
the house was huge, with small grottos dotting the back 40; plenty of space for 
everyone. Carl and the Girls would go to the early MOI shows and provide 
"interpretive" dance for the music. Pretty soon the 'girl' section grew to 
include 8 - 10 dancers. In exchange for their board, the girls would help Gail 
out around the house, and baby-sit Moon. A couple of the girls fancied 
themselves as "poets" and the girls would often regale Frank with their 
interpretive song and dance. Finally Frank said, "You girls should record an 
album".
The GTO's were officially born.
If you ever get the chance, read "I'm with the Band" by Pamela (Miller) 
DeBarres, for an interesting look at this period of Frank's life.
SOFA
What 
  is GTO? Is it Zappa related? Please forgive myignorance. Jim L 



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[Zappa-List] VO GTO's Permanent Damage and I'm With The Band - Confessions of A Groupie

2005-06-25 Thread SOFA





wav format: dawayne-US  white rabbitt-US 
("Permanent Damage" and "I'm With The Band - Confessions of A 
Groupie")

APE format: John Goddard-US  
(Permanent Damage only, with artwork)

If this is going to be a proper vine(s), let's do it properly; shall 
we?
I found it difficult to make heads or tails of all the posts, so let's 
start like this. Let all who are interested add their names to the vine of their 
choice!
Communing together, maintaining our coolness together, worshipping together 
at the vine of our choice; only in America...
SOFA


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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO GTO's Permanent Damage and I'm With The Band - Con...

2005-06-26 Thread SOFA





Lee,
At the yahoo groups Zappa_List page, there's a FAQ in the 
files section that explains vining and how to participate, and what is expected 
of the participants; check it out.
Normally, you'd respond to the LATEST vine message by simply 
typing " your name-country  " after the last name on the list. It 
couldn't be easier!

Nick,
You may want to recheck the messages at the yahoo groups 
Zappa_List page; I think you have a few others before you in line (you responded 
correctly, but to an earlier message I'm afraid). I could be wrong 
tho...
Warm Regards,
SOFA

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  Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 9:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO GTO's 
  "Permanent Damage" and "I'm With The Band - Con...
  
  I would like to get in on this. How do I add my name to the list? 
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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: VO GTO's Permanent Damage and I'm With The Band - Confessions of A Groupie

2005-06-26 Thread SOFA





That is very cool of you, Dawayne; thanks! I had a feeling that maybe white 
rabbitt needed some coaching on the vine concept... I was supposed to have 
contacted him this weekend, but have been busier than hell with gigs...
Regards,
SOFA
I'm 
  sending the 2 CDRs of the GTOs/Pamela Des Barres to Scott and bypassing 
  white rabbit because even though I sent them to white rabbit, I'm not sure 
  he/she wants to participate in the vine thing. So next in line is Scott 
  Burnett - I just need Scott's mailing address and they'll be in the mail 
  tomorrow.


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[Zappa-List] Mental CT Hygiene Delemma

2005-06-27 Thread SOFA





Hey Kids!
I think I'd like some opinions, if you'd be so kind.
Thanks to brother Bart, in Poland, I have sought out the recording of 801130, Des Moines, IA - billed as "The sickest songlist you've ever seen". It's a B- 
audience recording (and IMO that B- is kind; I'd rate it a C-). I intend to 
start a vine of this show...
Now I intend to rip this to my machine, and tweeze it for my own enjoyment. 
I believe that I can improve upon the overall quality; tho there are limits to 
what you can do, of course (a polished turd is still a turd - FZ). My question 
to all of you out there: would you rather have a copy warts and all, or would 
you rather have a SOFA tweezed copy?
PLEASE! Don't bother to respond to this with "I want a copy when it's 
ready" - that is NOT part of the conversation right now. I wanna know if the 
collectors out there would rather mess with it themselves (if they mess with it 
at all), or listen to a "pure" artifact. I'd also love to know if a cleaner copy 
of this show exists, but I kinda doubt it.
For example: the Illinois Enema Bandit encore on my copies does not include 
Sweet Lelani - it cuts off just as the solo starts to roll. And - I think - it's 
Pick Me I'm Clean that has a nasty warble, until the song finally just cuts out. 
I would replace these with (god forbid) tracks from around the same time... I 
wanna seriously mess with this mofo; because right now, I find it damn near 
unlistenable. But that's me. I really wanna know what you guys think. Because I 
will gladly pass on this turd as it sits...
Let the debate begin...
Regards,
SOFA


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Re: [Zappa-List] Mental CT Hygiene Delemma

2005-06-27 Thread SOFA





There are lots of nice audio editing suites out there John; I happen to use 
Soundforge 4.5. This is an old program that was given to me a long time ago... 
They have since upgraded to a 6 or better? Anyway, Sonic Foundry, who make it, 
have their shit together afa I'm concerned.
Editing programs can be costly; I'd find someone with a Soundforge program 
who'd be willing to share with you - as I did. I like Soundforge because of it's 
ease. I had no manual, or instructions with it and I could operate it 
immediately (and I am like supremely stupid with techie things).
CoolEdit is another program that's kinda popular...
I bet JimL could quote a raft of options.
For my money - or complete lack thereof - it's Soundforge.
SOFA

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  John Goddard 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 27, 2005 10:22 
PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Mental CT 
  Hygiene Delemma
  
  sofa
  Just as a matter of interest as Zappa 
  list is technical at the mome ??
  What type of software does one use to 
  polish a Frank Zappa concertTurd (Not Frank Himself, a concert by 
  Frank+, Hideously recorded?)
  
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