Re: Request re-instatement as an APache OpenOffice committer

2018-01-22 Thread Carl Marcum
On 01/21/2018 07:15 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote: Hello Kay, I am sorry for the delay. The PMC has accepted your request to re-instatement as a commiter. We are glad that you took the step and we looking forward to your contribution. Please people give her a nice welcome back! :-D All the best P

Re: Request re-instatement as an APache OpenOffice committer

2018-01-21 Thread Keith N. McKenna
On 1/21/2018 7:15 PM, Peter Kovacs wrote: > Hello Kay, > > I am sorry for the delay. The PMC has accepted your request to > re-instatement as a commiter. We are glad that you took the step and we > looking forward to your contribution. > > Please people give her a nice welcome back! :-D > > All

Re: Request re-instatement as an APache OpenOffice committer

2018-01-21 Thread Peter Kovacs
Hello Kay, I am sorry for the delay. The PMC has accepted your request to re-instatement as a commiter. We are glad that you took the step and we looking forward to your contribution. Please people give her a nice welcome back! :-D All the best Peter --

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5 released

2017-12-30 Thread Kay Schenk
is will change in the next months. > > Also we want to thank you for the past year and hope to see you all in > 2018. > > Marcus > (on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC) > ​Thanks for the nice New Year's present! ​ > > > > ---- Weitergeleitete Nachricht

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5 released

2017-12-30 Thread Mechtilde
Thank you to you all and a good way into 2018 Mechtilde Am 30.12.2017 um 18:59 schrieb FR web forum: > Good job > Thanks to have updated french webpages :-) > > - Mail original - >> De: "Marcus" >> À: "dev@" >> Envoyé: Samedi 30 Décem

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5 released

2017-12-30 Thread FR web forum
Good job! Thanks to have updated french webpages :-) - Mail original - > De: "Marcus" > À: "dev@" > Envoyé: Samedi 30 Décembre 2017 17:31:47 > Objet: Fwd: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5 released > > Hello OpenOffice community, > > befo

Fwd: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5 released

2017-12-30 Thread Marcus
year and hope to see you all in 2018. Marcus (on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC) Weitergeleitete Nachricht Betreff: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.5 released Datum: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 17:20:29 +0100 Von: Marcus Antwort an: annou...@openoffice.apache.org An:

RE: [NEW CHAIR] Peter Kovacs is the new chair for Apache OpenOffice

2017-12-22 Thread Chery
Congratulations and Happy Holidays. Looking forward to The New Year. Chery -Original Message- From: Peter kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2017 4:18 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [NEW CHAIR] Peter Kovacs is the new chair for Apache

Re: [NEW CHAIR] Peter Kovacs is the new chair for Apache OpenOffice

2017-12-21 Thread Peter kovacs
Hi, I have done that a little in the beginning of the voting. So maybe I repeated some parts. I live in Germany near Frankfurt am Main. I speak English and German. I know a little (very little) French and Hungarian. I am working for the Reply group, which is an IT Consulting Company in the big

Re: [NEW CHAIR] Peter Kovacs is the new chair for Apache OpenOffice

2017-12-21 Thread Keith N. McKenna
t; > Congratulations! :-) > > Please support Peter with actions were he need information or help. > > Marcus > (on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC) Congratulations Peter. Regards Keith signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [NEW CHAIR] Peter Kovacs is the new chair for Apache OpenOffice

2017-12-21 Thread Kay Schenk
; > Congratulations! :-) > > Please support Peter with actions were he need information or help. > > Marcus > (on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC) > > Congratulations, Peter! Wishing you the best in

Re: [NEW CHAIR] Peter Kovacs is the new chair for Apache OpenOffice

2017-12-21 Thread FR web forum
Hello, > Peter was already elected as new chair on Dec 16th and is > therefore now our new chair. Congratulations Is it possible to know you better? Where do you live? Do you work for a OpenOffice-related company or just contribute in your spare time? And anything else you want to mention.

Re: [NEW CHAIR] Peter Kovacs is the new chair for Apache OpenOffice

2017-12-20 Thread Peter Kovacs
dy elected as new chair on Dec 16th and is therefore >> now our new chair. >> >> Congratulations! :-) >> >> Please support Peter with actions were he need information or help. >> >> Marcus >> (on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC) >> &

Re: [NEW CHAIR] Peter Kovacs is the new chair for Apache OpenOffice

2017-12-20 Thread Carl Marcum
lease support Peter with actions were he need information or help. Marcus (on behalf of the Apache OpenOffice PMC) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail:

[NEW CHAIR] Peter Kovacs is the new chair for Apache OpenOffice

2017-12-20 Thread Marcus
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Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2017-12-16 Thread Marcus
Am 15.12.2017 um 07:19 schrieb Peter kovacs: I am sorry for the confusion I am causing. Sometimes I get stuck in topics, and overrated them due to an inner loop of focus. In this case it were to not give attackspace to possible trolls. That's why I called it Libre Office troll feedback loop. Li

[RESULT][VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2017-12-16 Thread Marcus
Am 08.12.2017 um 20:53 schrieb Marcus: Luckily we have 2 volunteers: Carl and Peter. Therefore please vote by replying to this thread. [ ] Carl Marcum (cmarcum) [ ] Peter Kovacs (petko) [ ] Abstain (I cannot/won't choose between them) thanks to all for your participation in this vote. It pass

Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2017-12-14 Thread Dave Fisher
Thanks for this Peter. Let’s just focus on what we can control! Best Regards, Dave Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 15, 2017, at 1:19 AM, Peter kovacs wrote: > > I am sorry for the confusion I am causing. > Sometimes I get stuck in topics, and overrated them due to an inner loop of > focus. > In

Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2017-12-14 Thread Peter kovacs
I am sorry for the confusion I am causing. Sometimes I get stuck in topics, and overrated them due to an inner loop of focus. In this case it were to not give attackspace to possible trolls. That's why I called it Libre Office troll feedback loop. Libre does only show up because they use Libre f

Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2017-12-14 Thread Marcus
Am 14.12.2017 um 09:21 schrieb Peter kovacs: It is not about what we agree upon. This is a public vote. And whoever gives a vote is deciding now. Maybe this is an effect from trolling against us, but I do not think there is space for public weakness or naivete. (And I try not do do both...) I t

Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2017-12-14 Thread Peter kovacs
Hi Carl, It is not about what we agree upon. This is a public vote. And whoever gives a vote is deciding now. Maybe this is an effect from trolling against us, but I do not think there is space for public weakness or naivete. (And I try not do do both...) I thought about putting my preferences

Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2017-12-13 Thread Herbert Duerr
On 12/08/2017 07:53 PM, Marcus wrote: > [...] > Luckily we have 2 volunteers: Carl and Peter. Therefore please vote by > replying to this thread. > > [ ] Carl Marcum (cmarcum) > [ ] Peter Kovacs (petko) > [ ] Abstain (I cannot/won't choose between them) +1 for Peter Kovacs (petko) Herbert -

Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2017-12-13 Thread Carl Marcum
On 12/13/2017 07:08 PM, Peter kovacs wrote: I am confused. There was no proper " I do not want to candidate anymore mail." But maybe my English is not good enough. A one candidate vote is something completely different as between 2+ candidates. Such a step should be well thought of if this is r

Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2017-12-13 Thread Kazunari Hirano
Hi all, Here is my vote. [X] Carl Marcum (cmarcum) [ ] Peter Kovacs (petko) [ ] Abstain (I cannot/won't choose between them) Thanks, khirano On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 4:53 AM, Marcus wrote: > End of October I wrote that I would like to resign from the Apache > OpenOffic

Re: [DISCUSS][VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2017-12-13 Thread Peter kovacs
.2017 um 13:29 schrieb Peter kovacs: >>> I do not understand. :( >>> But isn't the vote then invalid? >>> >>> Am 13. Dezember 2017 12:09:47 MEZ schrieb Matthias Seidel >: >>>> [x] Peter Kovacs (petko) >>>> >>>> Although he is the only

[DISCUSS][VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2017-12-13 Thread Marcus
isn't the vote then invalid? Am 13. Dezember 2017 12:09:47 MEZ schrieb Matthias Seidel : [x] Peter Kovacs (petko) Although he is the only candidate now... ;-) Regards, Matthias Am 08.12.2017 um 20:53 schrieb Marcus: End of October I wrote that I would like to resign from the Apache

Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2017-12-13 Thread Matthias Seidel
09:47 MEZ schrieb Matthias Seidel > : >> [x] Peter Kovacs (petko)  >> >> Although he is the only candidate now... ;-) >> >> Regards, Matthias >> >> >> Am 08.12.2017 um 20:53 schrieb Marcus: >>> End of October I wrote that I would like to resig

Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2017-12-13 Thread Peter kovacs
End of October I wrote that I would like to resign from the Apache >> OpenOffice PMC Chair position. I'm the chair a bit more than 1 year >> and until now we have rotated the role every year. >> >> Luckily we have 2 volunteers: Carl and Peter. Therefore please vot

Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2017-12-13 Thread Matthias Seidel
[x] Peter Kovacs (petko)  Although he is the only candidate now... ;-) Regards, Matthias Am 08.12.2017 um 20:53 schrieb Marcus: > End of October I wrote that I would like to resign from the Apache > OpenOffice PMC Chair position. I'm the chair a bit more than 1 year > and unt

Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2017-12-10 Thread Jim Jagielski
I had not voted yet, but with the below, my selection process is a lot easier. I'll also cast by vote to Peter. > On Dec 8, 2017, at 6:11 PM, Carl Marcum wrote: > > When I first got in I thought Peter preferred to wait until next year. > > However since he is up for it, and my workload is very

Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2017-12-10 Thread Gavin McDonald
[X] Peter Kovacs (petko) Gav… > On 9 Dec 2017, at 6:53 am, Marcus wrote: > > End of October I wrote that I would like to resign from the Apache OpenOffice > PMC Chair position. I'm the chair a bit more than 1 year and until now we > have rotated the role every year. &g

Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2017-12-09 Thread Peter Kovacs
To me a vote with one candidate is a "all In vote". If the vote fails we are back again at the far more serious questions that we just came away from. A vote where I step up not as equal is also not acceptable since it would be a fake. So if I follow nomination now it have to be a serious one,

Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2017-12-09 Thread O.Felka
[ ] Carl Marcum (cmarcum) [X] Peter Kovacs (petko) [ ] Abstain (I cannot/won't choose between them) Best regards, Olaf - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@o

Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2017-12-09 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 12/8/2017 11:53 AM, Marcus wrote: End of October I wrote that I would like to resign from the Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair position. I'm the chair a bit more than 1 year and until now we have rotated the role every year. Luckily we have 2 volunteers: Carl and Peter. Therefore please

Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2017-12-08 Thread Dave Fisher
In light of Carl’s withdrawal. Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 8, 2017, at 11:59 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > Thanks Marcus! >> On Dec 8, 2017, at 11:53 AM, Marcus wrote: >> >> End of October I wrote that I would like to resign from the Apache >> OpenOffice PM

Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2017-12-08 Thread Carl Marcum
When I first got in I thought Peter preferred to wait until next year. However since he is up for it, and my workload is very heavy at the moment I will bow out and maybe try next year. Thanks for all who voted for me. [ ] Carl Marcum (cmarcum) [X] Peter Kovacs (petko) [ ] Abstain (I cannot/w

Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2017-12-08 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] > As for Carl's skills, he probably understated his role in plugin > releases. In one occasion, Carl was the only developer and Release > Manager and we had to officially release his work. When I had > to review > his work, I found it imp

Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2017-12-08 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 8:53 PM > To: dev@ > Subject: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair > > End of October I wrote that I would like to resign from the Apache > OpenOffice PMC Chair position. I'm the chair

Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2017-12-08 Thread Marcus
[X] Peter Kovacs (petko) Marcus Am 08.12.2017 um 20:53 schrieb Marcus: Luckily we have 2 volunteers: Carl and Peter. Therefore please vote by replying to this thread. [ ] Carl Marcum (cmarcum) [ ] Peter Kovacs (petko) [ ] Abstain (I cannot/won't choose between them) The [VOTE] will close i

Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2017-12-08 Thread Roberto Galoppini
Il 08 Dic 2017 8:53 PM, "Marcus" ha scritto: End of October I wrote that I would like to resign from the Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair position. I'm the chair a bit more than 1 year and until now we have rotated the role every year. Luckily we have 2 volunteers: Carl and Peter. T

Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2017-12-08 Thread Keith N. McKenna
On 12/8/2017 2:53 PM, Marcus wrote: > > Luckily we have 2 volunteers: Carl and Peter. Therefore please vote by > replying to this thread. > [X] Carl Marcum (cmarcum) [ ] Peter Kovacs (petko) [ ] Abstain (I cannot/won't choose between them) Keith N. McKenna signature.asc Description: OpenPGP

Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2017-12-08 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Marcus wrote: Luckily we have 2 volunteers: Carl and Peter. Therefore please vote by replying to this thread. [ ] Carl Marcum (cmarcum) [ ] Peter Kovacs (petko) [ ] Abstain (I cannot/won't choose between them) I vote for Carl Marcum (cmarcum), purely due to the nature of the job. I would prefe

Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2017-12-08 Thread Dave Fisher
Thanks Marcus! > On Dec 8, 2017, at 11:53 AM, Marcus wrote: > > End of October I wrote that I would like to resign from the Apache OpenOffice > PMC Chair position. I'm the chair a bit more than 1 year and until now we > have rotated the role every year. > > Luckily

[VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2017-12-08 Thread Marcus
End of October I wrote that I would like to resign from the Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair position. I'm the chair a bit more than 1 year and until now we have rotated the role every year. Luckily we have 2 volunteers: Carl and Peter. Therefore please vote by replying to this thread. [ ]

[CLOSED][NOMINATION] New Apache OpenOfice Chair

2017-12-08 Thread Marcus
e Board. On one side, this requires a constant monitoring of the project and some familiarity/experience with all aspects of OpenOffice as a project. On the other side, this requires patience, discovery of the processes to follow, reading some procedural documentation in English that is often

Re: [NOMINATION] New Apache OpenOfice Chair

2017-12-06 Thread Peter Kovacs
Hello all, I am also nominating for chair in 2017. Maybe some small Information about myself. I have joined the Apache OpenOffice Project in Sept 2016 after in german Mainstream IT Newspage an article has been printed that OpenOffice has not enough devs and may close. I decided that this is

Re: [NOMINATION] New Apache OpenOfice Chair

2017-12-05 Thread Carl Marcum
s a project. On the other side, this requires patience, discovery of the processes to follow, reading some procedural documentation in English that is often full of Apache jargon or legal terminology. The work itself is thus a bit boring and clerical. The typical paper work. Consider that the Chai

[NOMINATION] New Apache OpenOfice Chair

2017-12-03 Thread Marcus
quires patience, discovery of the processes to follow, reading some procedural documentation in English that is often full of Apache jargon or legal terminology. The work itself is thus a bit boring and clerical. The typical paper work. Consider that the Chair will often be active in the project

Re: Fwd: [apache/openoffice] Fix typo (#4)

2017-11-28 Thread Peter kovacs
would review and approve this (small) >> patch, would it become visible in subversion? >> >> Regards, Matthias >> >> >> >> Weitergeleitete Nachricht >> Betreff: [apache/openoffice] Fix typo (#4) >> Datum: Tue, 28 Nov 2

Re: Fwd: [apache/openoffice] Fix typo (#4)

2017-11-28 Thread Matthias Seidel
equest on Github... > > Just out of interest: If we would review and approve this (small) > patch, would it become visible in subversion? > > Regards, Matthias > > > > Weitergeleitete Nachricht > Betreff: [apache/openoffice] Fix typo (#4) > Datum:

Fwd: [apache/openoffice] Fix typo (#4)

2017-11-28 Thread Matthias Seidel
We have a new pull request on Github... Just out of interest: If we would review and approve this (small) patch, would it become visible in subversion? Regards, Matthias Weitergeleitete Nachricht Betreff:[apache/openoffice] Fix typo (#4) Datum: Tue, 28 Nov 2017 12

Re: Apache OpenOffice Github repository has 2 open "pull" requests

2017-11-07 Thread Peter kovacs
ieb Peter Kovacs: >>> I am a bit confused about the 2 pull request. They both seem to try >to >>> merge changes via git into the Git Repo. > >So this would be https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pulls - both of >them are not useful. One is badly written, the other o

Re: Apache OpenOffice Github repository has 2 open "pull" requests

2017-11-07 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Marcus wrote: Am 07.11.2017 um 09:57 schrieb Peter Kovacs: I am a bit confused about the 2 pull request. They both seem to try to merge changes via git into the Git Repo. So this would be https://github.com/apache/openoffice/pulls - both of them are not useful. One is badly written, the

Re: Apache OpenOffice Github repository has 2 open "pull" requests

2017-11-07 Thread Marcus
Am 07.11.2017 um 09:57 schrieb Peter Kovacs: I am a bit confused about the 2 pull request. They both seem to try to merge changes via git into the Git Repo. One is a portugese Language change. The other one is a Merge request for 3.4 We should reject them or something. At least for the Langu

Apache OpenOffice Github repository has 2 open "pull" requests

2017-11-07 Thread Peter Kovacs
Hi all, I am a bit confused about the 2 pull request. They both seem to try to merge changes via git into the Git Repo. One is a portugese Language change. The other one is a Merge request for 3.4 We should reject them or something. At least for the Language merge request I have set a com

[Proposal]FOSDEM 2018 talk idea: the future of Apache openOffice

2017-11-01 Thread Peter kovacs
Hello all. I thought maybe we could have a talk on FOSDEM about the future of this project. May be we have 4.2.0 out or we are about to release. Since we are there in person and the thing gets recorded, I believe the visibility is quite good. (The topic as such will pull in people I guess) So I

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 released

2017-10-22 Thread Peter Kovacs
I wanted to know who the autor of the article is. Thanks for the answer Jörg. On 22.10.2017 23:05, Jörg Schmidt wrote: From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 6:11 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 released

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 released

2017-10-22 Thread Jörg Schmidt
> From: Peter Kovacs [mailto:pe...@apache.org] > Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 6:11 PM > To: dev@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 released > > Who is this guy? I don't understand the question. I am http://people.apache.org/comm

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 released

2017-10-22 Thread Peter Kovacs
Who is this guy? On 20.10.2017 22:33, Jörg Schmidt wrote: Hello, From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] Dear OpenOffice community, [...] Thanks for the information. I think we as a community need to be more concerned about our public perception in the future. Especially in Germany th

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 released

2017-10-22 Thread Matthias Seidel
Am 20.10.2017 um 23:17 schrieb Pedro Lino: >> > > I think we as a community need to be more concerned about our >> public perception in the future. >>> Especially in Germany there are a lot of articles in which AOO is >>> poorly presented, currently e. g: >>> http://www.pr

Re: Fwd: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 released

2017-10-20 Thread Kay Schenk
On Oct 20, 2017 12:20 PM, "Marcus" wrote: Dear OpenOffice community, we want to share with you the quoted mail from below: Yesterday the new Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 was released. (due to busy work and technical difficulties I wasn't able to write this in time, please don'

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 released

2017-10-20 Thread Pedro Lino
> > > > I think we as a community need to be more concerned about our > public perception in the future. > > > > Especially in Germany there are a lot of articles in which AOO is > > poorly presented, currently e. g: > > http://www.pro-linux.de/news/1/25256/openoffice-4

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 released

2017-10-20 Thread Matthias Seidel
Am 20.10.2017 um 22:33 schrieb Jörg Schmidt: > Hello, > >> From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] >> Dear OpenOffice community, >> [...] > Thanks for the information. > > I think we as a community need to be more concerned about our public > perception in the future. > > Especially in Germa

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 released

2017-10-20 Thread Jörg Schmidt
Hello, > From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.m...@wtnet.de] > Dear OpenOffice community, > [...] Thanks for the information. I think we as a community need to be more concerned about our public perception in the future. Especially in Germany there are a lot of articles in which AOO is poorly presen

Fwd: [ANNOUNCE] Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 released

2017-10-20 Thread Marcus
Dear OpenOffice community, we want to share with you the quoted mail from below: Yesterday the new Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4 was released. (due to busy work and technical difficulties I wasn't able to write this in time, please don't hold it against me that this comes with one day del

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-19 Thread Peter kovacs
the result was >carried >>> out by at least one voter (PMC member or not) for each of the >>> platforms/bit depths. >>>> If all three PMC members have success in building on e.g. Linux x64 >>> it does not provide any guarantee for the other platforms (as prov

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-19 Thread Peter kovacs
x64 >it does not provide any guarantee for the other platforms (as proven by >4.1.4 RC4) >> >> We had two PMC providing the community builds. The official release >is the Source release. We need as much testing as possible of the >community releases. AOO is a unique project for A

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-19 Thread Patricia Shanahan
. The official release is the Source release. We need as much testing as possible of the community releases. AOO is a unique project for Apache because our users count on the community builds and not the source releases. I think we have grown in the last year because in the first years here at A

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-19 Thread Patricia Shanahan
o PMC providing the community builds. The official release is the Source release. We need as much testing as possible of the community releases. AOO is a unique project for Apache because our users count on the community builds and not the source releases. I think we have grown in the last year be

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-19 Thread Peter kovacs
by >4.1.4 RC4) > >We had two PMC providing the community builds. The official release is >the Source release. We need as much testing as possible of the >community releases. AOO is a unique project for Apache because our >users count on the community builds and not the source r

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-18 Thread Dave Fisher
x64 it does > not provide any guarantee for the other platforms (as proven by 4.1.4 RC4) We had two PMC providing the community builds. The official release is the Source release. We need as much testing as possible of the community releases. AOO is a unique project for Apache because our

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-18 Thread Pedro Lino
Maybe we need to ask for review of http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#release-approval at the same time as looking at the voting process documentation. If taken literally, a PMC member who cannot do builds from source can't cast a +1 vote, because their vote is binding and a bin

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-18 Thread Carl Marcum
On 10/18/2017 07:18 PM, Gavin McDonald wrote: On 19 Oct 2017, at 9:39 am, Carl Marcum wrote: Question.. If a PMC member cast a vote should it always be counted as binding whether stated explicitly or not? Yes, Gav… Thanks Gavin !! -

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-18 Thread Carl Marcum
On 10/18/2017 07:21 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Carl Marcum wrote: If a PMC member cast a vote should it always be counted as binding whether stated explicitly or not? Yes, it should. People add "binding" as a shorthand to mean "I am from the PMC" since a release cannot be approved without rea

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-18 Thread Carl Marcum
On 10/18/2017 07:16 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: On 10/18/2017 3:39 PM, Carl Marcum wrote: Question.. If a PMC member cast a vote should it always be counted as binding whether stated explicitly or not? The vote counting is really only for ASF rule conformance. The way it really works fo

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-18 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Carl Marcum wrote: If a PMC member cast a vote should it always be counted as binding whether stated explicitly or not? Yes, it should. People add "binding" as a shorthand to mean "I am from the PMC" since a release cannot be approved without reaching 3 votes from the PMC, and it must be easy

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-18 Thread Gavin McDonald
> On 19 Oct 2017, at 9:39 am, Carl Marcum wrote: > > > Question.. > If a PMC member cast a vote should it always be counted as binding whether > stated explicitly or not? Yes, Gav… > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubs

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-18 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 10/18/2017 3:39 PM, Carl Marcum wrote: On 10/18/2017 03:11 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: We expect PMC members to have a deep sense of responsibility to their projects. When they cast a binding vote, we trust that they have satisfied themselves enough to warrant them casting the vote. That, alon

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-18 Thread Carl Marcum
On 10/18/2017 03:11 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: We expect PMC members to have a deep sense of responsibility to their projects. When they cast a binding vote, we trust that they have satisfied themselves enough to warrant them casting the vote. That, alone, should be sufficient, imo. --

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-18 Thread Pedro Lino
Hi Dave, all I proposed the following new logic on the comdev mailing list. Who is permitted to vote is, to some extent, a community-specific thing. However, the basic rule is that only PMC members have binding votes, and all other votes are advisory. Much better with exactly the same meani

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-18 Thread Pedro Lino
tely happens in OpenOffice. Actually I had already read your presentation. As I mentioned in a previous email I believe the community currently working on AOO is healthier and wiser than in the Oracle period. I'm just not sure about the "Apache way"... Seems like a very strict

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-18 Thread Dave Fisher
> On Oct 18, 2017, at 3:12 PM, Patricia Shanahan wrote: > > On 10/18/2017 12:28 PM, Pedro Lino wrote: >> On 18/10/2017 19:02, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >>> This is OK as long as the Apache Policy doesn't get in the way too much... >>> I mean, I highly appreci

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-18 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 10/18/2017 12:28 PM, Pedro Lino wrote: On 18/10/2017 19:02, Andrea Pescetti wrote: This is OK as long as the Apache Policy doesn't get in the way too much... I mean, I highly appreciate when people provide a list of what they did to justify their +1. But this shouldn't be use

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-18 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Pedro Lino wrote: I agree that it is good that some users replicate the building procedure and confirm that it works. ... In any case I couldn't find that particular requirement for a PMC member in the voting page (https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html). Maybe that is being too strict?

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-18 Thread Dave Fisher
trict? > >> (2) Would you name projects where you have felt discouraged? Have you felt >> discouraged here in past years? > > This is the only Apache project I collaborate with (I have been collaborating > with several other FOSS projects for a long time). Actually just re

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-18 Thread Marcus
ribed here: https://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#release-approval Marcus (2) Would you name projects where you have felt discouraged? Have you felt discouraged here in past years? This is the only Apache project I collaborate with (I have been collaborating with several other

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-18 Thread Pedro Lino
s the only Apache project I collaborate with (I have been collaborating with several other FOSS projects for a long time). Actually just reading the ASF rules discouraged me to become a committer (I was invited in the past) and still does. We know everyone helping is needed. It was great to have a

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-18 Thread Dave Fisher
Hi Pedro, > On Oct 18, 2017, at 12:28 PM, Pedro Lino wrote: > > On 18/10/2017 19:02, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > >> This is OK as long as the Apache Policy doesn't get in the way too much... I >> mean, I highly appreciate when people provide a list of what they did

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-18 Thread Pedro Lino
On 18/10/2017 19:02, Andrea Pescetti wrote: This is OK as long as the Apache Policy doesn't get in the way too much... I mean, I highly appreciate when people provide a list of what they did to justify their +1. But this shouldn't be used "against" them. +1 (as a user)

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-18 Thread Jim Jagielski
We expect PMC members to have a deep sense of responsibility to their projects. When they cast a binding vote, we trust that they have satisfied themselves enough to warrant them casting the vote. That, alone, should be sufficient, imo. -

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-18 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2017-10-18 20:02 GMT+02:00 Andrea Pescetti : > Keith N. McKenna wrote: > >> Even though he is a PMC member his vote cannot be counted as binding as >> he did not build from source as is required by Apache Policy. >> > > This is OK as long as the Apache Policy d

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-18 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Keith N. McKenna wrote: Even though he is a PMC member his vote cannot be counted as binding as he did not build from source as is required by Apache Policy. This is OK as long as the Apache Policy doesn't get in the way too much... I mean, I highly appreciate when people provide a li

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-18 Thread Kay Schenk
On 10/18/2017 09:29 AM, Keith N. McKenna wrote: On 10/18/2017 11:49 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: Kazunari Hirano (khirano) is on the Apache OpenOffice PMC so his vote should be included in "binding" . MzK "Only the truth will save you now." -- Ensei Tankado, "Di

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-18 Thread Keith N. McKenna
On 10/18/2017 11:49 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: > Kazunari Hirano (khirano) is on the Apache OpenOffice PMC so his vote > should be included in "binding" . > > > MzK > > "Only the truth will save you now." > -- Ensei Tankado, "Digital Fortres

Re: [VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-18 Thread Kay Schenk
Kazunari Hirano (khirano) is on the Apache OpenOffice PMC so his vote should be included in "binding" . MzK "Only the truth will save you now." -- Ensei Tankado, "Digital Fortress" On Oct 17, 2017 18:09, "Carl Marcum" wrote: Voting Resul

[VOTE][RESULT] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-17 Thread Carl Marcum
Voting Results +1: 13 0: 0 -1: 0 +1 (non-binding) Keith N. McKenna (knmc) Kay Schenk (kschenk) Larry I. Gusaas Kazunari Hirano (khirano) Pedro Lino +1 (binding) Jim Jagielski (jim) Patricia Shanahan (pats) Matthias Seidel (mseidel) Mechtilde Stehmann (mechtilde) Marcus Lange (marcus) Andrea P

Re: [CLOSED] Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA

2017-10-17 Thread Carl Marcum
actually released), 4.1.4-RC4 was revoked as GA. But fear not! I am calling a VOTE on releasing Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA!! You can find these gems at: https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/4.1.4-RC5/ The vote will last at least the normal 72 hours. Cheers! -- Jim Jagielski

Re: New macOS builds available (Was: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA)

2017-10-17 Thread Jim Jagielski
I've updated those bz entries. > On Oct 17, 2017, at 3:09 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > Matthias Seidel wrote: >> (Later) I would be interested if your changes in the build process would >> also apply to the Linux64 builds from trunk. > > I'm also very happy to learn this is reported by Jim an

Re: New macOS builds available (Was: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA)

2017-10-17 Thread Patricia Shanahan
Does this call for a change to https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Mac_OS_X to prevent it in the future? On 10/17/2017 12:09 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Matthias Seidel wrote: (Later) I would be interested if your changes in the build process would al

Re: New macOS builds available (Was: Re: [VOTE] Release Apache OpenOffice 4.1.4-RC5 as GA)

2017-10-17 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Matthias Seidel wrote: (Later) I would be interested if your changes in the build process would also apply to the Linux64 builds from trunk. I'm also very happy to learn this is reported by Jim and Dave to be fixed in the rebuilt RC5! And indeed I would be uncomfortable in confirming my +1 v

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