Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE versus UHDD in freedos 1.2 - and 1.3

2020-03-28 Thread Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-user
On Saturday, March 28, 2020 6:34 AM, Eric Auer e.a...@jpberlin.de wrote: > Hi Mercury, some short answers :-) > I think dates as version numbers are fine when there is no explicit version > numbering. I would use the date of the most recent file, leave the decision > to you whether that means

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE versus UHDD in freedos 1.2 - and 1.3

2020-03-28 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi, > On Mar 27, 2020, at 11:03 PM, Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-user > wrote: > > Hi Jerome, Eric! > > > On Friday, March 27, 2020 1:16 PM, Jerome Shidel jer...@shidel.net > wrote: > > Hi Eric, > I took a quick look. > There is some minor confusion and package

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE versus UHDD in freedos 1.2 - and 1.3

2020-03-28 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Mercury, some short answers :-) I think dates as version numbers are fine when there is no explicit version numbering. I would use the date of the most recent file, leave the decision to you whether that means the version is this week since YOU yourself have made per-driver excerpts of the

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE versus UHDD in freedos 1.2 - and 1.3

2020-03-27 Thread Mercury Thirteen via Freedos-user
Hi Jerome, Eric! On Friday, March 27, 2020 1:16 PM, Jerome Shidel jer...@shidel.net wrote: > Hi Eric, > I took a quick look. > There is some minor confusion and package issues and they cannot be replace > the current packages “AS-IS”. > At a glance… > Are they all newer than the ones already in

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE versus UHDD in freedos 1.2 - and 1.3

2020-03-27 Thread Jerome Shidel
Hi Eric, > On Mar 27, 2020, at 7:16 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > > Hi Jerome, > >> The package UIDE contains UHDD. >> It was updated to the latest versions almost a year ago. > > Mercury has recently created separate packages for > all different drivers, with separate readme, source > and so

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE versus UHDD in freedos 1.2 - and 1.3

2020-03-27 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jerome, > The package UIDE contains UHDD. > It was updated to the latest versions almost a year ago. Mercury has recently created separate packages for all different drivers, with separate readme, source and so on. Please use those for 1.3, so people do not have to search for UHDD in the

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE versus UHDD in freedos 1.2 - and 1.3

2020-03-27 Thread Jerome Shidel
The package UIDE contains UHDD. It was updated to the latest versions almost a year ago. http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/repositories/latest/pkg-html/uide.html

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE versus UHDD in freedos 1.2 - and 1.3

2020-03-09 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Rugxulo, Skipping over the FUD undertone, here are some answers :-) Yes the UHDD updates in 2019 are useful and by the author. Yes UHDD + UDVD2 works better than using only UIDE alone. No this is not about RDISK or XMGR updates, although if you can be more specific, I can check whether

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE versus UHDD in freedos 1.2 - and 1.3

2020-03-09 Thread Rugxulo
Gruess Gott, On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 5:59 AM Eric Auer wrote: > > > As far as I'm concerned, UIDE [sic] died in 2015. > > Another reason to switch to UHDD and UDVD2. I meant that I'm only personally aware of the 2015 "drivers" (long ago abandoned). I was not directly informed of the later "ad

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE versus UHDD in freedos 1.2 - and 1.3

2020-03-09 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Jim, > I think this is an oversight in FreeDOS 1.3. I did review UDVD2 and the > others and said they were ok for FreeDOS 1.3. They are listed as such > (green) on the Packages page. > http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/Releases/1.3/Packages > > Unless I'm missing something? I agree:

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE versus UHDD in freedos 1.2 - and 1.3

2020-03-09 Thread Jim Hall
I think this is an oversight in FreeDOS 1.3. I did review UDVD2 and the others and said they were ok for FreeDOS 1.3. They are listed as such (green) on the Packages page. http://wiki.freedos.org/wiki/index.php/Releases/1.3/Packages Unless I'm missing something? Jim On Mon, Mar 9, 2020, 5:59

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE versus UHDD in freedos 1.2 - and 1.3

2020-03-09 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Rugxulo, Jerome, Jim et al, > The full 1.2 release was from late 2016 / early 2017. > It hasn't changed. Good point, although 1.3 is still pending, so people might still want to update while they only have 1.2. > As far as I'm concerned, UIDE [sic] died in 2015. Another reason to switch

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE versus UHDD in freedos 1.2

2020-03-08 Thread Rugxulo
Gruess Gott, On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 10:12 AM Eric Auer wrote: > > It seems that FreeDOS 1.2 currently includes UIDE. "Currently"?? The full 1.2 release was from late 2016 / early 2017. It hasn't changed. As far as I'm concerned, UIDE [sic] died in 2015. > It would probably be better to use

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE Updates: NOT Losing My Mind!

2013-09-09 Thread Eric Auer
Jack, another week, another UIDE update is probably just a compliment, no complaint... Regarding your most recent update: Until we support EFI (UEFI?) GPT partitioning, FreeDOS only supports 2^32 sectors for FAT partitions on int13 disks in the kernel. However, it is possible that some driver

Re: [Freedos-user] uide versus virtualbox versus ls120 - was: DISGUSTED With Pundits!!

2012-10-12 Thread Eric Auer
Hi! (BCCing Jack and Mr. Lego) If I understand you correctly, you deliberately make incompatible for many VirtualBox users in order to fix it for a few users with LS120 drives with broken BIOS support? Can you give more details about the way in which the BIOS of Christian Pfaller fails to

Re: [Freedos-user] uide versus audio cd versus udvd

2012-08-13 Thread Karen Lewellen
The ability to rip audio cds has been built into the mpxplay dos audio player package for years. Given it now includes audio formats from .aif to .acc to m4a and mp4 and still allows for audio cd ripping, clearly many people care. Karen On Sun, 12 Aug 2012, Eric Auer wrote: Hi, short

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE Diskette Change Line Capability Tests.

2012-05-24 Thread Bret Johnson
Jack: Are you more interested in actually getting your program to work, or in trying to prove that you're smarter than everybody else? Let's take this from the perspective of someone trying to write a BIOS. If I were trying to do that, I would do my due diligence and obtain as many

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE Diskette Change Line Capability Tests.

2012-05-24 Thread Jack
Bret, A favorite tactic of propagandists, be they Fascist/Nazi/Communist or others, is that they flatly IGNORE any information from opponents and simply go on spouting their own ideas. In responding to the above thread, you have totally IGNORED all info I offered to begin with, and you cite, as

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE Diskette Change Line Capability Tests.

2012-05-24 Thread Eric Auer
Jack, Bret, VirtualBox users, A favorite tactic of propagandists, be they Fascist/Nazi/Communist or others, is that they flatly IGNORE any information from opponents At this point, you lost the discussion and many readers will simply have skipped the rest of your mail, as explained here:

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE Diskette Change Line Capability Tests.

2012-05-24 Thread Jim Hall
Use UIDE/UIDE2 if you think they work. Otherwise, do not use them. The third choice is giving my prosthetic helper a try ;-) Users of VirtualBox and UIDE, but also of other systems including real hardware, are invited to write me off-list, so I can send a copy and receive feedback :-) My

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE Performance -- Small Caches DO Work O.K.!

2011-08-24 Thread Santiago Almenara
Welcome back! Sent from my iPhone On 23/08/2011, at 23:50, Jack gykazequ...@earthlink.net wrote: For years, I have told people to use as much cache as possible with UIDE, to handle today's large files and still leave space in the cache for DOS directories. Today, Tuesday 23-Aug-2011, I

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE Performance -- Small Caches DO Work O.K.!

2011-08-24 Thread JPT
Hi, I cannot resist... in the following read my comments on caching and buffering. Even Windows XP (did not try nore recent versions yet) suffers from bad buffering when copying files from and to the same harddrive. It takes 10x to 100x time compared to copying from one drive to another one. I

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE /E For VirtualBox Now Officially Released.

2011-07-28 Thread Santiago Almenara
Jack, Is there any specific order for UIDE options? I am using the lastest UIDE (07-22-2011) wtih this options: C:\DEVLOAD\DEVLOAD /H C:\UIDE\UIDE.SYS /E /H /S:15 /D:MYCDROM Under VirtualBox, I am having the same problems when detecting the hard disk than the previous UIDE version. Thanks,

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE /E For VirtualBox Now Officially Released.

2011-07-28 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Santiago Almenara almen...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any specific order for UIDE options? I am using the lastest UIDE (07-22-2011) wtih this options: C:\DEVLOAD\DEVLOAD /H C:\UIDE\UIDE.SYS /E /H /S:15 /D:MYCDROM Under VirtualBox, I am having the same

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE /E For VirtualBox Now Officially Released.

2011-07-28 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 28-7-2011 23:22, Rugxulo schreef: I am using the lastest UIDE (07-22-2011) wtih this options: C:\DEVLOAD\DEVLOAD /H C:\UIDE\UIDE.SYS /E /H /S:15 /D:MYCDROM Under VirtualBox, I am having the same problems when detecting the hard disk than the previous UIDE version. Blind guess, but /S15

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE /E For VirtualBox Now Officially Released.

2011-07-24 Thread Jim Hall
THANKS, Jack! I've mirrored this release on ibiblio, and updated the software list. A news item should appear on the www.freedos.org site in about an hour. On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Jack gykazequ...@earthlink.net wrote: As noted earlier by Rugxulo, Johnson Lam has now posted the

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE vs drive power management spin down timers

2011-05-14 Thread Jack
Eric, I read through and understood all your comments about hard-disk power management, etc. My problem is: I am not-interested in being the one who does power management. If DOS or the BIOS wants to save power thru putting disks into stand-by mode, let them do it. UIDE is a disk I-O

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE vs drive power management spin down timers

2011-05-14 Thread Eric Auer
Jack, I read through and understood all your comments about hard-disk power management, etc. My problem is: I am not-interested in being the one who does power management. If DOS or the BIOS wants to save power thru putting disks into stand-by mode, let them do it... There is not much

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE vs drive power management spin down timers

2011-05-14 Thread Jack
Eric, ... My problem is: I am not-interested in being the one who does power management. If DOS or the BIOS wants to save power thru putting disks into stand-by mode, let them do it... There is not much to do there, as you only tell the disk once and then the disk itself does the rest.

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE vs drive power management spin down timers

2011-05-14 Thread Eric Auer
Jack, There is not much to do there, as you only tell the disk once and then the disk itself does the rest. Amen!, so let the user handle this thru the BIOS setup routines and let the BIOS tell the disk what to do during system boot! BIOS vendors have many more programmers than just me by

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE vs drive power management spin down timers

2011-05-14 Thread Jack
Eric, I have not yet seen a desktop BIOS which implements this, alas [disk spin-down timeouts, etc.]. I do have an adware DOS tool for it, showing a splash screen for a BBS or similar when you run it and of course bigger than needed, but free. Desktop BIOS routines are usually

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE

2011-05-13 Thread Eric Auer
Hi Marcos, Jack, Readme.Txt says Power-saving features such as a 'drive spin-down timeout' should be DISABLED. ... Is that what I should disable? If so, does this mean that the hard disk must keep running all the time if UIDE is used? Of course DOS will freeze for a short

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE

2011-05-13 Thread Jack
Eric, Of course DOS will freeze for a short moment when it has to wait for a harddisk to spin up again, but as I never had a bigger problem than that with power-saving in DOS without UIDE, I would like to suggest the opposite of what the UIDE readme.txt seems to say at the moment: Could

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE driver help

2011-05-12 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 12-5-2011 16:13, James Collins schreef: I want to be able to use my cd/dvd drive on my MacBook pro laptop. I have the drivers for UIDE. I have read the readme file, but it is very technical. I could use some help loading the drivers. Do I have to edit my config.sys file? Do I put the

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE Question.

2010-03-03 Thread Robert Riebisch
japhethx gmail wrote: In my previous UIDE comments the word P-R-E-S-E-N-T was truncated by whatever forum software is in use to the word S-E-N-T!! No problem here. There are 3 occurances of sent in your first post, and all threee have a nice pre prefix. Same here in Thunderbird 2.0.0.23

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE Question.

2010-03-02 Thread Jack
In my previous UIDE comments the word P-R-E-S-E-N-T was truncated by whatever forum software is in use to the word S-E-N-T!! I have NEVER seen such a thing occur in E-Mail or forums before! Please understand that what seems to be S-E-N-T should be read as the words At p-r-e-s-e-n-t. Someone

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE Question.

2010-03-02 Thread Geraldo Netto
Hi! eheheh :) relax Jack, nice shot regarding uide :) once english is my second language, my english is definitely far worse than your :) Kind Regards and Best Wishes, Geraldo Non dvcor, dvco = Sapere Aude São Paulo, Brasil, -3gmt site: http://exdev.sf.net/ github:

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE Question.

2010-03-02 Thread japhethx gmail
In my previous UIDE comments the word P-R-E-S-E-N-T was truncated by whatever forum software is in use to the word S-E-N-T!! No problem here. There are 3 occurances of sent in your first post, and all threee have a nice pre prefix.

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE question

2010-02-27 Thread Geraldo Netto
Hi! I didn't know that, oops btw, what is up with FD 1.1? i still busy(oops, my thesis got rejected here) but of course, as soon as i can, i'll contribute See Ya! Geraldo Non dvcor, dvco = Sapere Aude São Paulo, Brasil, -3gmt site: http://exdev.sf.net/ github: http://github.com/geraldonetto

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE question

2010-02-26 Thread Geraldo Netto
Hi maybeway36, Uide is different from lbacache/cdrcache Uide enables ultra dma[1] modes for harddisks while lbacache/cdrcache do cache for harddisks/cdrom [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_ATA See Ya, Geraldo Non dvcor, dvco = Sapere Aude São Paulo, Brasil, -3gmt site:

Re: [Freedos-user] UIDE question

2010-02-26 Thread Bernd Blaauw
Op 26-2-2010 22:17, Geraldo Netto schreef: Hi maybeway36, Uide is different from lbacache/cdrcache Uide enables ultra dma[1] modes for harddisks while lbacache/cdrcache do cache for harddisks/cdrom Geraldo, by default UIDE includes caching for diskettes, harddisks on controllers and