On 6/3/2011 1:17 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>
> Are you ready to call for a vote? :)
I'm certainly not support OOo from 2 committers and 1 mentor. It would
be good to see the rest of that list hashed out and know that those already
on board are good with the individuals signed up (including IBM fo
On 6/3/2011 12:36 PM, Simon Phipps wrote:
>
> On 3 Jun 2011, at 17:52, Ian Lynch wrote:
>>
>> Thing is that this is done, Oracle didn't and won't now give the IP to any
>> other foundation. So we are where we are.
>
> We may be where we are, but we collectively have the opportunity to
> collabo
On 6/3/2011 10:20 AM, Florian Effenberger wrote:
>
> I on purpose leave out the discussion about (re-)licensing here, as others
> can comment
> much better about the impact of the various licenses, and how they play
> together, and what
> ASF could to with the software grant they received, may i
On 6/2/2011 7:12 PM, Simon Phipps wrote:
>
> This is purely my own thoughts, and there's no doubt room for improvement
> although I have run it past a few wise friends before posting it. But I
> suggest that without this clear demarcation of "new-project" and
> "business-as-usual-project" it wi
On 6/2/2011 11:07 AM, Ross Gardler wrote:
> On 02/06/2011 16:22, Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>
>> The initial list has grown and I expect it to continue to; up
>> until it was announced, no one new about it, so it was kinda
>> impossible to get a more comprehensive list. Now that people
>> do know about
On 6/2/2011 11:45 AM, Greg Stein wrote:
>
> We know the *precise* list of files that we have rights to. They are
> explicitly specified in the software grant recorded by the Secretary.
>
> For all other files not listed: we have no special rights. Those files
> would be under their original licen
On 6/1/2011 11:07 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 22:52, wrote:
>> ...
>> What am I missing here?
>>
>> According to the Incubation Policy [1]:
>>
>> "A Sponsor SHALL be either:
>>
>>* the Board of the Apache Software Foundation;
>>* a Top Level Project (TLP) within the Apa
On 6/1/2011 10:37 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 10:23 PM, William A. Rowe Jr.
> wrote:
>
>> Other Works
>>
>>* You can use the Creative Commons Attribution License
>> ("Attribution-NoDerivs 2.5").
>> W
On 6/1/2011 8:41 PM, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote:
>
> My questions then are absolutely pragmatic and relate—hence the to post—to
> issues not so far discussed:
>
> * Apache Foundation owns the trademark to OOo?
> * We at OOo receive lots of requests to use it for mostly good purposes. We
> grant t
>
> OpenOffice.org will be contributed to Apache Software Foundation by Oracle
> Corporation in compliance with ASF licensing and governance.
Luke, could you offer some insight into affixing the Apache License v2.0
to this code base? Only ALv2 code is released by the foundation.
LGPL/MPL cannot
On 6/1/2011 1:24 PM, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote:
> Ross Gardler wrote on 06/01/2011 12:21:23 PM:
>
>> There are only two initial committers identified in the proposal. Why
>> only two for such a large codebase?
>
> We could have put a much longer list of IBM names on this list, developers
>
On 6/1/2011 1:16 PM, dsh wrote:
> To me the proof point whether this proposal will be successful or not
> is whether Linux distributions having already dropped support for
> OpenOffice and switched to LibreOffice instead would be willing to
> reverse that decision and move back to OpenOffice again
On 6/1/2011 12:48 PM, Nick Burch wrote:
>
> This would possibly warrant a seperate discussion though, especially if the
> codebase were
> to be destined for POI rather than a new TLP.
And note, this is a decision that can be made *during* incubation,
with POI folks participating on the incubatin
On 6/1/2011 11:33 AM, robert_w...@us.ibm.com wrote:
>
> That would be great. There is also another project (or set of projects)
> that IBM and Sun/Oracle have worked on over the past few years, called the
> :ODF Toolkit". For example, this component was just released today:
> http://odftoolk
On 3/12/2011 4:21 PM, Alex Karasulu wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 11:27 PM, Upayavira wrote:
>
>> I am concerned that none of the proposed mentors were Incubator PMC
>> members at the time of the proposal. I believe Alan Gates is now joining
>> the Incubator PMC, which is great. However, I'd l
On 2/24/2011 6:08 PM, Ate Douma wrote:
>
> [X] +1 Accept Rave into the incubator
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On 2/25/2011 4:25 AM, Troy Howard wrote:
> My point was:
>
> Bill made a statement, which though rather neutral and ambiguous,
> seemed to indicate that he (or perhaps a silent mass of others) did
> not think the proposal was such a good idea, due to the risks
> associated with a significant amoun
On 2/21/2011 5:18 PM, Ate Douma wrote:
>
> The Apache Rave project proposal is a joined effort of Hippo, the MITRE
> Corporation, the
> Open Gateway Computing Environments project (OGCE), the SURFnet SURFConext
> Portal project,
> OSS Watch, and several other individuals.
Keep in mind that only
On 2/15/2011 5:33 PM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 11:54 PM, William A. Rowe Jr.
> wrote:
>> On 2/12/2011 10:57 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
>>> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Daniel Shahaf
>>> wrote:
>>>> Phil Steitz wrote on Sat,
On 2/12/2011 10:57 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 11, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Daniel Shahaf
> wrote:
>> Phil Steitz wrote on Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 22:32:24 -0500:
>>> On 2/5/11 4:16 PM, Scott O'Bryan wrote:
Bertrand,
I agree. The good thing about a vibrant community is that the
On 1/31/2011 11:22 AM, Aida Rivas wrote:
> Hello
> Our Open64.net steering committee is exploring the idea of submission as an
> Apache Incubator Project, and one of the concerns is the Apache 2.0 license
> status regarding whether or not it's compatible with GPL
> since Open64 is currently using
On 11/23/2010 8:11 PM, James Purser wrote:
> While Google owns the Google Wave trademark, they don't own the very generic
> "Wave".
>
> Apache Wave will be a separate thing and unaffected by any trademark that
> Google owns.
Wrong. The ASF is always affected by other's Trademarks, which is why w
Which would appear to come from the UK, if that gives anyone a better
clue.
On 10/28/2010 10:15 AM, Craig L Russell wrote:
> Sorry for the noise. A bit more information:
>
> Caller-ID: 441962815000
>
> On Oct 28, 2010, at 8:11 AM, Craig L Russell wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We received an empty two p
On 10/7/2010 11:40 AM, Nick Burch wrote:
> Hi All
>
> Does anyone happen to know of some pre-existing release guidelines for python
> or php
> libraries, either in an apache TLP or a podling? For Chemistry we've got the
> docs sorted
> for maven-based releases of the java codeline, and now we're
On 9/27/2010 2:16 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
>
> But you're right that those votes have no formal value.
I would disagree, if there were later discussion by the graduated project
(now consisting mostly of former PPMC folks), as a PMC chair I'd look back
at the decision by the committee partic
On 9/25/2010 8:42 PM, Rafal Rusin wrote:
>
> This is good question. As I understand procedure for nominating
> committers for podlings, blind request to hise-private needs to be
> sent and then mentors decide during voting. Existing committers don't
> play role here. That's why we haven't started
On 9/10/2010 11:25 PM, Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Greg Stein wrote:
>> For reference:
>>
>> * Subversion created its dev list in April 2000.
>> * The user list was created in July 2003. 238 messages were posted that
>> month.
>>
>> As you can see, we waited a very
On 7/1/2010 11:19 AM, ant elder wrote:
>
> I've been suggesting it would be simpler for Chukwa to go directly to
> TLP but if thats not going to happen then you have my support to
> incubate if thats what they really want to do, and I agree a new vote
> might making things clearer. It seems a sham
On 6/25/2010 12:40 PM, Chris Douglas wrote:
>>
>> But the Incubator doesn't just say yes/no. We can refer this back to Hadoop
>> proposing this as a TLP, and even offer the list of mentors as observers, or
>> members of the initial PMC.
>
> The Hadoop PMC is wholly unqualified to manage Chukwa. I
On 6/25/2010 3:55 AM, Bernd Fondermann wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 21:21, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
>
>> Is anyone in agreement with ant? Otherwise we should just move ahead
>> and can hold a separate vote on allowing tlp resource creation at this
>> time.
>
On 6/23/2010 8:12 AM, Bernd Fondermann wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 14:45, ant elder wrote:
>
>> IMHO we should insist on using the incubator naming for the Chukwa
>> website/svn/MLs because I think Chukwa should just go directly to a
>> TLP and if they have to use the incubator naming it may
On 6/22/2010 2:42 AM, ant elder wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 8:09 PM, William A. Rowe Jr.
> wrote:
>> On 6/21/2010 1:31 PM, Owen O'Malley wrote:
>>>
>>> On Jun 21, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Chukwa has
On 6/21/2010 12:29 PM, Eric Yang wrote:
> Please vote as to whether you think Chukwa should move to Apache incubator.
>
> The proposal is posted at:
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ChukwaProposal
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On 6/21/2010 1:31 PM, Owen O'Malley wrote:
>
> On Jun 21, 2010, at 11:06 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote:
>
>> Chukwa has been around for a while now and from my (albeit limited)
>> impression, pretty successful. What's the rationale for going the
>> Incubator route rather than putting up a Bo
On 6/17/2010 2:30 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote:
> On 6/17/2010 9:06 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Justin Erenkrantz
>> wrote:
>>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Paul Querna wrote:
>>>> It is possible to run an incubat
On 6/17/2010 9:06 AM, Niall Pemberton wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 6:33 PM, Justin Erenkrantz
> wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Paul Querna wrote:
>>> It is possible to run an incubator.staging.apache.org, syncing off a
>>> branch, and the live site off trunk, or vice versa.
>>>
>>
On 6/17/2010 4:17 AM, Florent Guillaume wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 1:08 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
>>> AGAIN, A REMINDER: *DO NOT* use any wiki markup, other than the = Project =
>>> seperator or lists.
>>>
>>> Once again, I have ha
On 4/9/2010 6:54 PM, Bryan Call wrote:
>
> Incubation status:
> http://incubator.apache.org/projects/trafficserver.html
>
> Please cast your vote:
> [X] +1 to recommend Traffic Server's graduation
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On 3/15/2010 6:22 PM, Nóirín Shirley for the ApacheCon 2010 Planning Team wrote:
>
> If you'd like your project to be featured in the main conference
> tracks, please discuss it with your project community. A schedule is
> not needed at this time, but you have a coherent vision for a one day
> (6
On 2/4/2010 11:24 PM, Martin Cooper wrote:
> In that case, +0 from me. We gain the elimination of the p.a.o bit but
> lose the benefit of the delay, so it's basically a wash, as far as I'm
> concerned.
After several years of watching incubator site commits, I don't see this
is a serious problem.
+1
On 2/3/2010 1:57 AM, Gav... wrote:
>
> This system is not applied to most TLPs, though they can request it.
> And I'm betting that every single project that graduates will make that
> request rather than learn the old cumbersome way.
++1 :)
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Niclas Hedhman wrote:
>
> So, any policy in the area is not really bound in the legal space, and
> more in the 'representation of ASF'-space.
No, there is a legal distinction between work-product (the intermediate
steps) and a publication. Posts like this might attempt to muddy the
distinction,
Doug Cutting wrote:
> Branko Čibej wrote:
>> So I'm not too clear on what your objections are.
>> * Do you object to publishing non-released documentation on the
>> project Web pages?
>
> I object to posting these outside of a clearly-marked developer portion
> of the project's web site
Greg Stein wrote:
>
> We're not sure what we'd like to do about website migration right now.
> Discussion is still occurring in the community.
The bottom line is that we are in sync in terms of what aught to move into
ASF and have 'formal recognition' ASAP. E.g. a mailing list is trivial,
svn is
Greg Stein wrote:
>
> If you want to review *bits* rather than *release process*, then you
> can take a look at trunk/ or the nightlies that we'll soon produce. If
> you want release process *and* Apache-branding, then the svn community
> is not prepared to provide that, nor do I think it necessar
Greg Stein wrote:
> I have no idea why the term "Board" even comes up in your response.
> What's that got to do with my problems with the IPMC attempting to
> impose make-work on the svn podling?
Because when you post to a broad-list such as general@, you are
communicating to all incubating podlin
Greg Stein wrote:
>
> The Subversion podling would like a waiver of the requirement to make
> a release before graduation.
>
> As we understand this requirement, it is present in order to
> demonstrate to the podling how releases are made at the ASF.
> Packaging, licensing, signing, placement int
Joe Schaefer wrote:
> - Original Message
>
>> From: William A. Rowe Jr.
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Sent: Tue, November 10, 2009 10:08:40 AM
>> Subject: Re: Insanity. Apache Incubator should be about education (was:
>> [PROPOSAL][VOTE] Su
Mark Phippard wrote:
>
> I do not believe the project wants to be in the business of providing
> binaries and we have an existing ecosystem of people that are
> providing them successfully.
As long as non-committer artifacts aren't hosted here, that is no trouble.
If nobody on SVN wants to create
Branko Čibej wrote:
>
> Wait a minute. Are you implying that the "project" *should* release
> binaries? Wouldn't such a requirement apply to, say, APR, to keep this
> close to home?
s/should/may/
Greg pointed out I make win32 binaries and these are not mandated, I do so
only because I trusted th
Greg Stein wrote:
>
> The IPMC is in charge of its operation. It can redefine the rules of
> releases as it pleases. The three +1 rule was developed to show that
> the PMC is "in charge" of the release, and is therefore legally liable
> for it. The IPMC can do whatever it likes around releases, as
Greg Stein wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 03:48, William A. Rowe, Jr.
> wrote:
>
>> Quite frankly, all svncorp releases could, with reasonable documentation
>> [read: mailing list archives, CLA's and code grant] be licensed as ASF
>> releases under the AL 2.0
Greg Stein wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 03:59, William A. Rowe, Jr.
> wrote:
>> Greg Stein wrote:
>>>
>>> Podlings should be shepherded *out* rather than held *in*.
>> Hmmm... here you go again. Do you really believe there's a mentor here
>> w
Mark Phippard wrote:
>
> As an SVN committer, I can say that this is not something that is of
> concern to me (and I dare say I probably speak for all or at least
> most of the other committers when I say that).
Thanks for that reassurance...
> Finally, I will also add that we have had our SVN C
Mark Phippard wrote:
>
> I gave counsel to the Eclipse Foundation and explained that they could
> provide a fully functioning JavaHL library to users with only EPL
> compatible code. Basically, you just need to build without Neon, BDB
> and libintl support. Of the three, the only thing an Eclips
Leo Simons wrote:
>
> Here's what I understand:
>
> 1) Apache rule: all apache releases must be made by PMCs
> 2) Apache rule: a release needs at least 3 binding +1s and more +1s than -1s
> 3) from #1 and #2 it follows that all incubator releases must be made
> by the incubator PMC
> If you see
Martijn Dashorst wrote:
>
> Would a waiver be possible for Diversity (large project dominated by 1
> or 2 vendors)? For the minimum required binding votes (small
> communities of 2 committers)?
Such things have been requested, and granted in the past, based on the
demonstrated ability of the proj
Greg Stein wrote:
>
> Yup. And I'll note that that "limbo" you describe has been an issue
> with the Board for a long while now. That is why the Board instructed
> the IPMC to request all podlings to list two items in their reports:
>
> 1) when did you arrive?
> 2) what is left?
>
> Specifically
Joe Schaefer wrote:
>
>> From: Justin Erenkrantz
>>
>> Let me put it another way: if the IPMC accepts a proposal with one
>> mentor, then I'm fine with that one mentor acting on behalf of the
>> IPMC without the need to constantly go back to the IPMC for approval.
>> -- justin
>
> For non-releas
Justin Erenkrantz wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:26 PM, Martijn Dashorst
> wrote:
>> On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Justin Erenkrantz
>> wrote:
>>> To be clear, it's on the mentors to decide what is applicable and
>>> necessary for graduation - not the IPMC as a whole.
>> Nope... The whole I
Greg Stein wrote:
> The Apache Incubator is about EDUCATION. It is about TEACHING podlings
> how to work here at Apache.
I'm a little confused. I'm reading a really long rant here, but I expect
if you look at what nearly all mentors do in their respective podlings,
this is exactly what they provi
Greg Stein wrote:
>
> The Subversion project would like to join the Apache Software
> Foundation to remove the overhead of having to run its own
> corporation. The Subversion project is already run quite like an
> Apache project, and already counts a number of ASF Members amongst
> its committer
Greg Stein wrote:
>
> Sponsors
> * Champion: Greg Stein
Cool
> * Nominated Mentors: Justin Erenkrantz, Greg Stein, Sander Striker, Daniel
> Rall
Once again, caution against committers == mentors (== 'project leads').
It puts certain committers above others, an inequitable situation.
If the
Bob Schellink wrote:
>
> I would like to start a vote to recommend the graduation of Apache Click
> as a Top Level Project to the Board.
>
> Please cast your vote:
>
> [X] +1 to recommend Click's graduation
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George Aroush wrote:
> [X] +1 Graduate Lucene.Net as a sub-project under Apache Lucene.
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Leo Simons wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Jeremy Hughes wrote:
>> We appreciate any feedback and comments on the proposal.
>
> * Any chance of one or two of the other ASF members involved also
> stepping up as a mentor?
If Felix is looking at this as an opportunity, to attract more OSGi
Kevan Miller wrote:
>
> It then becomes a question of, assuming successful incubation, where
> does the community graduate to? TLP, Felix subproject(s), or elsewhere.
And remember that Felix charter is framed in terms of "the OSGi Service
Platform and other software that is associated with or rel
Ted Leung wrote:
>
> On Aug 19, 2009, at 10:01 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
>
>> I have a lot of problems with saying
>
>> In the meantime, we have dozens of projects who are here to learn the
>> *right* way to build code and communities
>
> when we c
Craig L Russell wrote:
>
> On Aug 19, 2009, at 12:23 AM, ant elder wrote:
>>
>> +1. And i'd go further and say while the ASF does not have a clear
>> policy on something that is an ASF issue then the IPMC should not be
>> trying to make up our own, and, we should be trying to shield
>> poddlings f
Noel J. Bergman wrote:
> +1
Sorry I had been away on vacation with very limited connectivity.
+1
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Noah Slater wrote:
>
> I checked the incubation rules, but couldn't find any mention of this rule.
> Our
> hopes were that we could start from scratch as a podling, and grow the code
> along with the community. Is this going to be possible?
It's not mentioned because there is no such rule. Draw
David Crossley wrote:
>
> I am very disappointed that no podlings took up your suggestion.
I was too. It was "answered" by the status scoreboard, but that is not
help to graduate, only a bunch of disassociated data. I don't disapprove
of a status grid, but it doesn't replace active management.
Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Thorsten
> Scherler wrote:
>
>> How many committers are in the project? As understand from the thread 2
>> coding committers but how many other committers?
>
> 5 committers and PPMC Members in total, not counting 2 mentors.
gbrown
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-08-04 at 18:16 +0800, Niclas Hedhman wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 6:14 PM, Thorsten
>> Scherler wrote:
>>
>>> How many committers are in the project? As understand from the thread 2
>>> coding committers but how many other committers?
>> 5 committers and
Niclas Hedhman wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 8:42 PM, Jukka Zitting wrote:
>
>> Sling explicitly waited until there were active committers from three
>> independent backgrounds until asking for graduation.
>>
>> At the end of the day it's the people who write the code that decide
>> where a proj
Craig L Russell wrote:
>
> On Jul 28, 2009, at 3:50 PM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>
>> That doesn't seem right either. I think members should still be able
>> to access it read-only.
>
> Fair enough. I just don't think it should be readable by the public.
But members? Why not just authenticated commi
Jim Jagielski wrote:
> Would this be moved to the attic?
Probably not. The Attic is the collection of all released Apache
Projects. Podlings != Projects, and were never accepted as projects.
Do we want to charge the Attic with such additional burdens of then
completing all IP clearances that we
Jim Jagielski wrote:
>
> On Jul 22, 2009, at 3:31 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
>
>> Jim Jagielski wrote:
>>> Are we cool with the name 'wookie' as a mark??
>>
>> How is incubator PMC to evaluate this question?
>>
>> Apparently th
Jim Jagielski wrote:
> Are we cool with the name 'wookie' as a mark??
How is incubator PMC to evaluate this question?
Apparently the submitters are cool with it, or it would not be on their
proposal :)
The one thing that might be concerning is that most people will use a
query such as;
http://w
Richard S. Hall wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I am trying to perform IP clearance on the Sigil project to Felix.
>
> The contributed archive contains some embedded JAR files, one of which
> is covered by AGPL, which is a modified version of GPL. I am told by
> Paremus (the contributors) that only two minor
Jim Jagielski wrote:
> +1 (binding) on the singular change of dropping Mladen Turk and Nick Kew
> as Mentors since that makes it 5 mentors, which is problematic (3 seems
> to be the max).
>
> Otherwise -1 (binding)
Guys... mentorship is not about technical excellence, it's about bringing
together
Jochen Wiedmann wrote:
> Honestly, Niclas,
>
> but if you and possibly others that strict, then we should change the
> official policy. I do not doubt the reasons you give, but such a
> statement seems difficult to me, if the official policy clearly
> demands it, but insisting on more than the pol
Gavin wrote:
>
> So, can someone tell me what the rules are regarding TLPs bringing in
> subprojects directly to their TLP rather than coming through incubator?
All significant incoming IP must be submitted to the incubator, see some
rare posts by Roy Fielding of his IP review on behalf of httpd.
Bernd Fondermann wrote:
> On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 21:53, William A. Rowe, Jr.
> wrote:
>> "Apache Kleenex" because the Kleenex registration refers to a paper
>> product, not a software product.
>
> Gasp! Don't let the Kleenex folks hear that there produ
Maarten Bosteels wrote:
> Hi Les,
>
> Is there an entry in TESS that shows us the potential naming conflict ?
> It could help us understand which names are good candidates.
>
> I don't quite understand the problem (IANAL).
> My apologies if this has all been discussed before.
>
> As far as I und
sebb wrote:
> PANEKANA - apparently means security in Hawaiian.
> No hits in TESS.
> Google shows no hits relating to commercial enterprises.
I like the alliteration... a pa che pan e kan a
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Robert Burrell Donkin wrote:
I know that we usually try to strongly encourage companies not to use
apache as dumping ground but I wonder sometimes whether it might be
useful to accept more contributions of proof-of-concept code
especially from academia. It's often easier to start from some proof
Niclas Hedhman wrote:
On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 4:11 AM, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Perhaps a better solution is an incubator sandbox for code
Or just a directory called "dormant" into which to do an svn move.
+1 - Simple Solution.
+1; create a category on the Incubating projects list called D
At Wed's ASF Board meeting, the board took up the issue of whether
the attic project's charter is appropriate for incubating code that
has not yet graduated into a project.
The conclusion was no; the attic is chartered to handle the actual
projects of the foundation (including incubator *graduate
Bob Schellink wrote:
> Will Glass-Husain wrote:
>>
>> +1
>
> Quick question, does the PMC votes from previous release attempts (the
> first and second try) count towards this cut? In other words does Andrus
> and Kevan's votes from the previous attempt count?
Each package must be evaluated on it'
Torsten Curdt wrote:
> Isn't the champion expected to be the ubermentor anyway? Or to
> rephrase this: does the vote of the champion not count? ... or can one
> person be champion and mentor?
Yes and should be called out as both.
> BTW: Just realized I am not members of the Incubator PMC. Wasn't
Ian Holsman wrote:
> I'll be a mentor. do we need 2 or 3?
That would be nice, yes.
3 mentors == 3 binding votes.
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Craig L Russell wrote:
>
> My only concern is that from the description, the project appears to be
> run in real time, with decisions made "through collaborative
> decision-making on the mailing list, through daily scrum calls, via
> Twitter and using open discussion on ESME itself."
Good points.
Darren Hague wrote:
> Hi Aaron,
>
> Are we ready for the next steps of accepting ESME into the Incubator?
>
> The Apache Incubator general mailing list seems to have been quiet since
> Saturday 21st November, so I'm not sure if there's a problem with the
> mailserver somewhere or if people are
David Crossley wrote:
>
> The Clutch table assists with a status summary.
> It is also helpful when it comes to reviewing, as the
> links in each cell go directly to each podling's
> various resources.
> e.g. http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html#empire-db
That's sweet - embarrassed I didn't kn
I'd like to suggest a thread on general@ for each of those projects
who believe they are close to graduation, but not sure what to do
next. To kick off such a thread, email *me* with a summary (like
you do for status reports) of where your project is now in terms
of community, code, releases and f
Paul Fremantle wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 3:49 AM, William A. Rowe, Jr.
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Just two concerns...
>
>> Is it anticipated this will graduate into the WS TLP? If so, has WS voted
>> to sponsor the project into incubation?
>
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> Garrett Rooney wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:37 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr.
>>> I'm presuming there was not a dev@ vote yet by the Abdera community itself?
>>> If not, could you please call that vote ASAP in parallel with the gener
Garrett Rooney wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 10:37 PM, William A. Rowe, Jr.
>> I'm presuming there was not a dev@ vote yet by the Abdera community itself?
>> If not, could you please call that vote ASAP in parallel with the general@
>> vote? Monday evening is not
Just two concerns...
"The project already uses core libraries from the Apache WS project
including Apache Axis2/Java, Rampart and Sandesha2. In addition, the PHP,
Perl, and Python versions use the Apache Axis2/C libraries. We hope to
develop versions that utilize at least the Apache CXF
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