Re: Jes message $HASP311

2024-03-14 Thread Brian Westerman
No, it won't help you. You need to look at why your task failed int he first place. There may be messages, or a abend, but you might have just received some off the wall error like "memory failure"/ Do you see anything in the job log of the job that failed or in syslog? Brian ---

Re: ASVT & ASID discrepancy mystery

2024-03-14 Thread Jim Mulder
I don't think that there is much with the dump that you could do yourself. The control structures that keep track of nonreusable ASIDs are OCO. Can you open a Case to IBM and send in the dump so I can look at it? Jim Mulder -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On

Re: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-03-14 Thread Rupert Reynolds
As a style thing, I'd be quite happy to initialise everything inline once, but if I need to re-initialise then I'd want to be sure everything is the same second time around, so I'd probably use 'procedure expose' to initialise (and 'signal on novalue' as well, to avoid being caught out by different

Re: VSAM split activity and statistic questions

2024-03-14 Thread Steve Thompson
Yes, you can have a CA split without a CI split. You add a record that needs to go into a new cylinder because there is no room in the current one. Take, for instance, a file that has records added to it using the date and time for the key. Now you add 20 records, so we will say that 5 record

Re: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-03-14 Thread Phil Smith III
For me, this prompts discussion over "Is using SIGNAL worse than not modularizing the initialization?": /**/ stuff signal DoInit DoneInit: . DoInit: numeric digits 40 . signal DoneInit --- Discuss :) -- For IBM-MAIN

Re: ASVT & ASID discrepancy mystery

2024-03-14 Thread Paul Feller
Alan, I'm curious how long had the lpar (system) been up when this issue happened. I've seen issues with the number of non-reusable ASIDs growing over time related to how long a lpar is up and how active things are related to cross memory connects. What I'm getting at is if you have some tasks

Re: ASVT & ASID discrepancy mystery

2024-03-14 Thread Alan Haff
On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 16:49:03 -0500, Alan Haff wrote: >RIDS/IEAVXSRM#L RIDS/#UNKNOWN AB/S0AC7 PRCS/001B REGS/0D218 REGS/041B8 Ok, I looked up 001B and yeah, it's just indicating we had an IEA059E. So no surprise there.

Re: Standard Packaging Rules for z/OS-Based Products - current version ???

2024-03-14 Thread Lionel B Dyck
Thank you David and Kurt - I was asking on behalf of the z/OS Open Tools project who were asked about providing an SMP/E installation option. See https://github.com/ZOSOpenTools I will share this information with them. On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 2:51 PM Jousma, David < 01a0403c5dc1-dmarc-requ..

VSAM split activity and statistic questions

2024-03-14 Thread Pommier, Rex
Hello list, I have a couple questions about VSAM KSDS and splits. For example, if I create a KSDS with FSPC(0 0) and load it, there is no free space in it. I then come along and try to insert a record somewhere in the middle of a CI. This will result in a CI split which will then result in a

Re: ASVT & ASID discrepancy mystery

2024-03-14 Thread Alan Haff
On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 20:53:31 +, Jim Mulder wrote: > The more important thing would be to have taken a standalone dump before > reIPLing. Yeah, I wish I had done that (but see below). >You might have had an ASVT overlay. If you search your logrec, do you see any >records containing >IEAV

Multiprise power outage

2024-03-14 Thread W Mainframe
Guys, I have a Mulltirpise 3000 for hobbyst purposes. Recently I faced a strong power outage, after this I just see the leds on in power unit, but the nothing is  working. :(My question is... Is there any secret button (like a fuse) to bring it running again?! Thank youDan Sent from Yahoo Mail fo

Re: ASVT & ASID discrepancy mystery

2024-03-14 Thread Jim Mulder
The more important thing would be to have taken a standalone dump before reIPLing. You might have had an ASVT overlay. If you search your logrec, do you see any records containing IEAVESAR or IEAVELCR? Jim Mulder -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of

Re: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-03-14 Thread Glenn Knickerbocker
On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 18:15:18 +, Rupert Reynolds wrote: >I *think* this only applies with calls to labels with 'procedure', but I >might be wrong. PROCEDURE only affects whether *variables* are exposed to the called routine--so it would affect the indices of the DO loops, but none of the oth

Re: Standard Packaging Rules for z/OS-Based Products - current version ???

2024-03-14 Thread Jousma, David
Lionel, I haven’t seen the book, but Ive written usermods to replace SMPE controlled data.Basically you have the tar’d payload, a script that is aware of SMPE phase/actions, etc, and based on an apply or restore does the work.Whether you are writing a usermod or installing a FMID I thin

Re: ASVT & ASID discrepancy mystery

2024-03-14 Thread Alan Haff
On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 19:00:49 +, Jim Mulder wrote: > The IEA_ASIDS check should show you all of the ASIDs that are nonreusable in > the IEAVEH012I and IEAVEH001I messages, >even more than an hour past the time when they became nonreusable. ASVTAVAI >will be on for those ASIDs. IEA_ASIDS sh

Re: Standard Packaging Rules for z/OS-Based Products - current version ???

2024-03-14 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
> The most current version of this pub that I can find is SC23-3695-10 and it > is from June 2003. > Specifically, I'm curious about packaging for z/OS Unix System Services > applications. Sadly, the -10 version is the most recent version of that book, but it does contain information about z

Re: ASVT & ASID discrepancy mystery

2024-03-14 Thread Jim Mulder
Cross memory and the resulting non-reusable ASIDs have only been around since 1981. The field name ASVTAVAI predates that. Since 1981, ASVTAVAI just means that the ASID is not currently in use for an active address space. It does not mean that it is available for reuse, since in may be in

Re: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-03-14 Thread Rupert Reynolds
I *think* this only applies with calls to labels with 'procedure', but I might be wrong. Also, there's nothing stopping us from using 'procedure exposure name1 name2 name3' to set name1 etc. in a function that initialises them, if we want (especially if we will want to reinitialise everything at

Standard Packaging Rules for z/OS-Based Products - current version ???

2024-03-14 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
The most current version of this pub that I can find is SC23-3695-10 and it is from June 2003. The link for this is https://www.ibm.com/resources/publications/OutputPubsDetails?PubID=SC23-3695 -10 Does anyone know of a link to a current version? Specifically, I'm curious about packaging for z/

Re: What happens in HSM when I change a Management Class

2024-03-14 Thread Glenn Wilcock
You'll need to run EXPIREBV. Glenn Wilcock DFSMS Chief Product Owner -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN

Re: ASVT & ASID discrepancy mystery

2024-03-14 Thread Alan Haff
On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 16:59:39 +, Jim Mulder wrote: > I would suggest starting with the IEA_ASIDS health check. Thanks Jim. The IEA_ASIDS check definitely caught the problem when it happened. Unfortunately, the check runs hourly and all of the the ASIDs were consumed in the span of the

Re: Rexx numeric digits and scientific notation question

2024-03-14 Thread Glenn Knickerbocker
On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 11:01:30 -0500, Charles Mills wrote: >And the answer is ... "The three numeric settings are automatically saved >across internal and external subroutine and function calls." >I was setting numeric digits in an initialization subroutine, so Rexx >helpfully unset it on return f

Re: ASVT & ASID discrepancy mystery

2024-03-14 Thread Jim Mulder
I would suggest starting with the IEA_ASIDS health check. For example, on one of our test systems: SDSF OUTPUT DISPLAY IEA_ASIDS LINE 0 COLUMNS 02- 16 COMMAND INPUT ===>SCROLL ===> CSR *** TOP OF

ASVT & ASID discrepancy mystery

2024-03-14 Thread Alan Haff
We had an outage on one of our development systems earlier this week due to lack of available ASIDs. After I freed up some ASIDs and was able to get logged on, I ran Mark Zelden’s ASIDLIST program (file 434 on the CBT tape). The results were… weird (to me, anyway). The program walks through th

Re: WLM and DDF enclaves

2024-03-14 Thread Martin Packer
They should be below Db2 Engine in the hierarchy… IRLM should be in SYSSTC. DBM1, MSTR, DIST should be in Importance 1, CPU Critical. DDF transactions should be Importance 2 on downwards. Right now you have DDF work fighting with Db2 – in whatever shaped boxing ring. 😊 Cheers, Martin From: I

Re: IGGCSI00 Catalog Search interface

2024-03-14 Thread Lionel B. Dyck
Once you have the dataset name from the catalog you can use the REXX LISTDSI service to get the dataset type (dsorg). Lionel B. Dyck <>< Github: https://github.com/lbdyck System Z Enthusiasts Discord: https://discord.gg/system-z-enthusiasts-880322471608344597 “Worry more about your character

Re: IGGCSI00 Catalog Search interface

2024-03-14 Thread Farley, Peter
Not everyone has access to DCOLLECT data (we are not all sysprogs with privileged access rights). IGGCSI00 can be used by most folks to query catalog data. Understanding that the DSNTYPE isn’t available in the catalog data, perhaps IEHLIST could be used (clumsily I admit) to “print” the VTOC d

Re: IGGCSI00 Catalog Search interface

2024-03-14 Thread Michael Oujesky
Have you looked at DCOLLECT data? Michael At 08:19 AM 3/14/2024, Don Johnson wrote: Good morning! I am working with the IGGCSI00 module, and have looked at the field descriptions and think I am missing something. Does anyone know the CSI field name and format where I can discover if a fil

Re: Jes message $HASP311

2024-03-14 Thread Binyamin Dissen
A task RESMGR will not be invoked if there is a memory failure. And the address space manager will not stop the message. It will get control after the memory ends (running in *MASTER*) but it is not relevant to the issue, which is, as usual, missing doc. Look at earlier messages to determine why

Re: WLM and DDF enclaves

2024-03-14 Thread Colin Paice
You might try to get WLM/RMF reports on response times to get a base line Colin On Thu, 14 Mar 2024 at 14:26, Jaime Fernandez < 05f045ad6641-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > Hi fellow listers, > > Newcomer here, so... I hope my question makes sense. > > We have some amount of business

Re: Jes message $HASP311

2024-03-14 Thread Joseph Reichman
So are you saying that would help Thanks > On Mar 14, 2024, at 10:27 AM, Wayne Driscoll > <05791921711d-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > An Address Space RESMGR for an initiated job is of little use, as it won't > get invoked until the address space terminates, which in the case

Re: IGGCSI00 Catalog Search interface

2024-03-14 Thread Kirk Wolf
AFAIK this is not in the catalog, but there are some flags in the Format1 DSCB: DS1LARGE, DS1EATTR, DS1STRP Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http:// coztoolkit.com On Thu, Mar 14, 2024, at 8:19 AM, Don Johnson wrote: > Good morning! > > I am working with the IGGCSI00 modu

Re: Jes message $HASP311

2024-03-14 Thread Wayne Driscoll
An Address Space RESMGR for an initiated job is of little use, as it won't get invoked until the address space terminates, which in the case of an INIT may be a while. For authorized batch jobs a TASK RESMGR on the job step task would be needed to clean up your resources. Wayne Driscoll Note: All o

WLM and DDF enclaves

2024-03-14 Thread Jaime Fernandez
Hi fellow listers, Newcomer here, so... I hope my question makes sense. We have some amount of business critical distributed online transactions, running on enclaves into a Db2 zOS subsystem. Our current WLM configuration assigns them a specific service class with importance 1 and a velocity

Re: Jes message $HASP311

2024-03-14 Thread Joseph Reichman
Would installing an address space resource manager Help > On Mar 14, 2024, at 7:50 AM, Tom Marchant > <000a2a8c2020-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: > > "End of memory" means that the address space terminated. JES2 refers to an > address space as a "memory". > > It may or may not b

IGGCSI00 Catalog Search interface

2024-03-14 Thread Don Johnson
Good morning! I am working with the IGGCSI00 module, and have looked at the field descriptions and think I am missing something. Does anyone know the CSI field name and format where I can discover if a file is a BASIC or LARGE DSNtype? Thanks! Don

Re: GIMAPI returned buffer size limit

2024-03-14 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
> GLOBAL (zone) > SYSMOD (entry) > ENAME,SOURCEID,SMODTYPE (sub entry) > SOURCEID='PUT2312' (filter) In the grand scheme of things, the results of that query shouldn't use much storage at all. And if you didn't get an error message from GIMAPI then it obtained all the storage it needed. N

Re: What happens in HSM when I change a Management Class

2024-03-14 Thread Allan Staller
Classification: Confidential Gadi, Mike has a good point. Doing HSM tape recycles could help free up any tapes with a low number of datasets on them. This is true for migration tapes and backup tapes. Be warned that if you don't do tape recycles on a scheduled basis the process could possib

Re: GIMAPI returned buffer size limit

2024-03-14 Thread Itschak Mugzach
Sure. The Interface to GIMAPU is an assembler program called by a rexx program. The assembler program creates stem variables with the results from the call. The Query is for: MVS.GLOBAL.CSI GLOBAL (zone) SYSMOD (entry) ENAME,SOURCEID,SMODTYPE (sub entry) SOURCEID='PUT2312' (filter) *| **Itsch

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: SMP/E can't find APAR

2024-03-14 Thread Pommier, Rex
Hi Ann and Mark, That is what I ended up doing. I was looking for the info APAR to see if there was any additional information available. The fix I was trying to put on had a pre-req. I had to install the pre-req fix by itself first then the fix I initially tried by itself to get them instal

Re: GIMAPI returned buffer size limit

2024-03-14 Thread Kurt Quackenbush
> Does GIMAPI have a storage limitation, and if so, can it be controlled by the > program? GIMAPI does not have a storage limit which can be easily controlled by the caller. It will gobble up as much 31-bit storage as it needs to return the requested information, limited only by REGION size or

Re: SMP/E can't find APAR

2024-03-14 Thread Ann Kelley
I also searched, and found an item in a PSP bucket -- I've encountered this situation before, and have successfully done the recommended local fix -- 20/08/05 APPLY CHECK for sysmods UI67319, UI65815, UI67709, UI68251 is failing with: GIM24608E ** SHELLSCR ENTRY BBLS1803 IS NEEDE

Re: Jes message $HASP311

2024-03-14 Thread Tom Marchant
"End of memory" means that the address space terminated. JES2 refers to an address space as a "memory". It may or may not be due to a storage related problem. -- Tom Marchant On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 19:07:36 -0400, Joseph Reichman wrote: >Regarding the above message and I'll put down the entire

Re: GIMAPI returned buffer size limit

2024-03-14 Thread W Mainframe
Hi I noticed the same, but the codition filter is related with zones and global and entries. The results are different for example if you are using just tzones or dzones or a mix of tzones, dzones and global.Of course, I do not know your scenary, but it almost like that. RegardsDan Sent from Ya

GIMAPI returned buffer size limit

2024-03-14 Thread ITschak Mugzach
We are using the GIMAPU (SMP) to retrieve data from SMP. We noticed that not all of the data conform with the conditions specified are returned. At the end of the query command, we perform a FREE command to free the storage occupied by the QUERY call. The problem is easy to identify when querying

Re: Jes message $HASP311

2024-03-14 Thread Binyamin Dissen
Look at earlier messages. On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 19:07:36 -0400 Joseph Reichman <05812645a43c-dmarc-requ...@listserv.ua.edu> wrote: :>Regarding the above message and I'll put down the entire text :>$HASP311 JOER$RE-QUEUED AT END OF MEMORY AND HELD :>Would any anyone know what causes it --