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2016-05-10 Thread Mark Langford
Regarding parachutes, it's worth mentioning that there's never been an inflight structural failure of a KR (the all-composite one at high speed at the Gathering doesn't count, in my mind), although there is a question of elevator bellcrank failure in one plane, but it's possible it was crash in

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2016-05-10 Thread Mark Langford
Also, you're far more likely to roll it up in a ball during a landing, so why not airbags too? Mark Langford ML at N56ML.com http://www.n56ml.com

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2016-05-11 Thread Chris Prata
ONE airbag mark. I'm building a KR1. > To: krnet at list.krnet.org > Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 21:26:17 -0500 > Subject: Re: KR> parachutes > From: krnet at list.krnet.org > CC: ml at n56ml.com > > Also, you're far more likely to roll it up in a ball during a

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2016-05-11 Thread Larry Flesner
At 09:22 PM 5/10/2016, you wrote: >Jumping out of a spinning or otherwise disabled plane is not without >its risks as well...perhaps higher than sticking with the plane to >put it on the ground somewhere +

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2016-05-11 Thread jsellars at sellarswealthmanagement.com
so would it stop the rotation? If you have any thought please share. Best Jim -Original Message- From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark Langford via KRnet Sent: May 10, 2016 11:22 PM To: KRnet Cc: Mark Langford Subject: KR> parachutes Regarding parachu

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2016-05-11 Thread Jeff Scott
e is that these things are not inexpensive and require periodic replacement. ? -Jeff Scott Los Alamos, NM ? ? Sent:?Tuesday, May 10, 2016 at 8:22 PM From:?"Mark Langford via KRnet" To:?KRnet Cc:?"Mark Langford" Subject:?KR> parachutes Regarding parachutes, it's worth

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2016-05-11 Thread Larry Flesner
At 08:15 AM 5/11/2016, you wrote: >I base that on an in-experienced jumper trying to exit an out of >control aircraft having used up valuable altitude even deciding to >jump and falling 1000 feet every 8 seconds after exit. >Given that and the extremely low odds that you would ever need it >make

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2016-05-11 Thread Nerobro
Keep in mind the source. But if you've got a sound airframe, with a slow stall speed, sticking with the plane is the best idea. You're probally better off saving the 20lbs, and stalling slower. If you've got a sound airframe, but a high stall speed, sticking with the plane is asking to run i

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2016-05-11 Thread n357cj
I am very sorry for all your losses. Those are though things to grasp and understand to those left standing. Joe Horton - Original Message - From: "Jeff Scott via KRnet" To: krnet at list.krnet.org Cc: "Jeff Scott" Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 9:33:18 AM Subject: Re

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2016-05-11 Thread Chris Prata
I believe my chute is a national 360, which I just checked weights 10.8lbs and is 1.75" thick. at least thats the new specs for a 360. I can live with the 10lbs. In the unlikely event of a fire (which is what started the discussion), I will get out in time, believe that. Safety gear is a person

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2016-05-11 Thread Tommy Waymack
Got to agree with all the ideas on this subject.Safety is an important consideration in flying.I wish it were otherwise.Fly safe and keep building.Tommy W. On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Chris Prata via KRnet < krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote: > I believe my chute is a national 360, which I jus

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2016-05-11 Thread JAMES DUFF
The only crash I've ever witnessed personally was a mid air collision at low altitude (Douglas Skyraider vs Mustang). I was fairly convinced I was watching a fatal accident unfolding, but the unflyable of the two aircraft's pilot bailed in a steep dive at very low altitude and got a clean chute

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2016-05-11 Thread Dan Branstrom
Some considerations: First, I'm not a big fan of Cirrus' system on its planes. Why? First, let me point out that the descent rate on a Cirrus under a canopy is more than a (What is now called) Cessna TTx in a glide. It is for good reason that the Cirrus has seats that are designed to cushion a h

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2016-05-11 Thread Randall Smith
If i remember right there has only been 2 death when the chute had been deployed. The problem cirrus had in the beginning was nobody would pull the chute because it totaled the plane. Sent from my iPhone > On May 11, 2016, at 11:56 AM, Dan Branstrom via KRnet list.krnet.org> wrote: > > Some

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2016-05-11 Thread Randall Smith
krnet at list.krnet.org > Cc: "Jeff Scott" > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 9:33:18 AM > Subject: Re: KR> parachutes > > If one is giving serious thought to always flying with a parachute, I would > recommend giving serious consideration to engineering in a BRS syste

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2016-05-11 Thread ol' weirdo
Colin hales makes an interesting point re parachutes. Is baling out an acceptable action if one is caught on top? Bill Weir Virus-free. www.avast.com

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2016-05-11 Thread Mark Jones
Chris. I may have missed this but how is your canopy mounted Z no how will you deal with opening it to get out? Mark Jones Sent from my iPhone 6 > On May 11, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Chris Prata via KRnet > wrote: > > I believe my chute is a national 360, which I just checked weights 10.8lbs > a

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2016-05-11 Thread Chris Prata
hi mark, have not started building the KR1 yet so thats an issue for sometime along the way. most are hinged to the side that I've seen IIRC > From: flykr2s at charter.net > Subject: Re: KR> parachutes > Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 20:15:44 -0500 > CC: chrisprata at liv

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2016-05-11 Thread Paul Visk
1:18 PM (GMT-08:00) To: krnet at list.krnet.org Cc: ol' weirdo Subject: KR> PARACHUTES Colin hales makes an interesting point re parachutes. Is baling out an acceptable action if one is caught on top? Bill Weir

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2016-05-12 Thread Gary Hinkle
ginal message From: Mark Langford via KRnet List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: 05/10/2016 22:22 (GMT-05:00) To: KRnet Cc: Mark Langford Subject: KR> parachutes Regarding parachutes, it's worth mentioning that there's never been an inflight structural failur

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2016-05-14 Thread Gary Hinkle
eless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: jsellars--- via KRnet List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: 05/11/2016 09:23 (GMT-05:00) To: 'KRnet' Cc: jsellars at sellarswealthmanagement.com Subject: Re: KR> parachutes Mark; I agree completely with y

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2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Call me paranoid, but I'm thinking it's a good idea to wear a chute while flying my project, and not just during the 40 hours. So now I'm stuck with a bit of a situation. I need a chute to design the seat, but if I buy a chute now I have to pay to get it repacked every 4 months even though I'm n

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2008-10-12 Thread Jürgen Thiesen
Hi Steve, I also design the seat for a parachute. I go the way, that I will get a chute from the glider scene (long body). The long body chutes saves the uppolstery of the seat. For first overview look at aircraftspruce... in the catalog are the dimentions and the weight. with best regards Juerg

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2008-10-12 Thread Jim Sellars
t;Bubba" To: "KRNet" Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 9:18 AM Subject: KR> Parachutes > Call me paranoid, but I'm thinking it's a good idea to wear a chute while > flying my project, and not just during the 40 hours. So now I'm stuck with > a > bit

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2008-10-12 Thread patric...@usfamily.net
I was certified as a chute packer while in the Air Force Reserves. It is not difficult to do and I would think that if you joined a local sky divers club you could learn and get yourself certified to pack your own chute and you could also get in a few jumps to know what to do if you ever need

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2008-10-12 Thread gleone
than tall!" ---Original Message--- From: Jim Sellars List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org Date: 02/08/05 07:57:28 To: KRnet Subject: Re: KR> Parachutes Steve:\ Practically speaking if the thing won't work you don't need it. If you have ever sat in a KR2 you would know that getting out

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2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Jim Sellars wrote: > Steve:\ >Practically speaking if the thing won't work you don't need it. > If you have ever sat in a KR2 you would know that getting out with > the wind forces and all that would make it almost impossible to > egress unless you made the canopy an emergency release. On the

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2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
patric...@usfamily.net wrote: > I was certified as a chute packer while in the Air Force Reserves. > It is not difficult to do and I would think that if you joined a > local sky divers club you could learn and get yourself certified to > pack your own chute and you could also get in a few jumps t

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2008-10-12 Thread robert glidden
If your KR is as fast as most being built,if you have a failure bad enought to need a personal chute it is going to happen so fast that the chute is going to just be extra padding for when you hit the ground.If you are that uncomfortable with your ability to build a good flying airplane then put a

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2008-10-12 Thread Mark Langford
Bob Glidden wrote: > At the speeds you will be going by the > time it happens and you think about jumping it will probly be to late unless > you are going to make yours a low and slow airplane.just a thought... Absolutely. And not only that, but structural failures are incredibly rare in aircraf

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2008-10-12 Thread Bubba
Mark Langford wrote: > > Absolutely. And not only that, but structural failures are > incredibly rare in aircraft in general, KRs in particular. Only in > these rare cases will a parachute help, and as Bob says, there's no > guarantee then. Far more likely is fuel starvation, or an engine > prob

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2008-10-12 Thread Colin & Bev Rainey
Not to talk down or belittle anyone, but read closely what the wording is: each occupant shall That means anyone on board pilot included. No exception is made to while solo, or receiving dual, or not in an approved acrobatic aircraft. The aircraft does not determine the requirement, the mane

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2008-10-12 Thread Colin & Bev Rainey
I would like to try and close out this topic, simply because this thread only applies to those who desire to perform acrobatic maneuvers with their KRs. (c) Unless each occupant of the aircraft is wearing an approved parachute, no pilot of a civil aircraft carrying any person (other than a crewmem