Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-11-08 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On 10/31/06, Burkhard Carstens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I allredy regret my mail. While I am really interested in seeing proper GTK2 support + I am really willing to pay for that, I admit that there are some problems with this bounty offer: * who decides, if the goal is reached That's why it

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-11-08 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
Guys, just reminding that it would be good if everyone posts here about this bounty: http://wiki.lazarus.freepascal.org/Bounties I also put there a small list of indispensable bug fixes. Others can add more. -- Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho ___

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-11-01 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 01/11/06, Michael Van Canneyt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Oh really ? well, what are you waiting for then ? Get to work and grab that bounty... ;-) Talking bounties: Did you already get the last bounty ? Form Inheritance ? Cause I'm really waiting for that one... (one of these things which I f

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-11-01 Thread johnf
On Wednesday 01 November 2006 10:42, Vincent Snijders wrote: > johnf schreef: > > On Wednesday 01 November 2006 04:57, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: > >> On 11/1/06, zeljko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> On Tuesday 31 October 2006 18:19, johnf wrote: > I will offer $200.00 US to anyone

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-11-01 Thread Vincent Snijders
johnf schreef: On Wednesday 01 November 2006 04:57, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: On 11/1/06, zeljko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tuesday 31 October 2006 18:19, johnf wrote: I will offer $200.00 US to anyone that delivers Lazarus running either QT or GTK2 at the current level Lazarus

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-11-01 Thread johnf
On Wednesday 01 November 2006 04:57, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: > On 11/1/06, zeljko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tuesday 31 October 2006 18:19, johnf wrote: > > > I will offer $200.00 US to anyone that delivers Lazarus running either > > > > QT > > > > > or GTK2 at the current level L

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-11-01 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On 11/1/06, zeljko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tuesday 31 October 2006 18:19, johnf wrote:> I will offer $200.00 US to anyone that delivers Lazarus running either QT> or GTK2 at the current level Lazarus runs today with GTK1.more $500 for Qt from me  Please guys, organize this in this page:http:/

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-11-01 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Mattias Gaertner wrote: > On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 00:10:14 +0100 (CET) > Michael Van Canneyt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, 31 Oct 2006, Mattias Gaertner wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 19:37:13 +0100 (CET) > > > Michael Van Canneyt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-11-01 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 10:32:44 +0200 "George Birbilis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> gtk2 uses pango which is a rather high level font rendering lib. > >> gtk1 was almost X level and therefore fast but lacks a lot of > >> unicode specials. OTOH SynEdit needs some fast and simple text > >> functions

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-11-01 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, 1 Nov 2006 00:10:14 +0100 (CET) Michael Van Canneyt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 31 Oct 2006, Mattias Gaertner wrote: > > > On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 19:37:13 +0100 (CET) > > Michael Van Canneyt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 31 Oct 2006, Mattias Gaert

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-11-01 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:33:29 -0300 Cesar Romero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > gtk2 uses pango which is a rather high level font rendering lib. > > gtk1 was almost X level and therefore fast but lacks a lot of > > unicode specials. OTOH SynEdit needs some fast and simple text > > functions. May

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-11-01 Thread George Birbilis
gtk2 uses pango which is a rather high level font rendering lib. gtk1 was almost X level and therefore fast but lacks a lot of unicode specials. OTOH SynEdit needs some fast and simple text functions. Maybe cairo is the solution. Sebastian is already working on this. When you say "simple text fu

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-11-01 Thread zeljko
On Tuesday 31 October 2006 18:19, johnf wrote: > I will offer $200.00 US to anyone that delivers Lazarus running either QT > or GTK2 at the current level Lazarus runs today with GTK1. more $500 for Qt from me _ To unsubscribe: m

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread Cesar Romero
gtk2 uses pango which is a rather high level font rendering lib. gtk1 was almost X level and therefore fast but lacks a lot of unicode specials. OTOH SynEdit needs some fast and simple text functions. Maybe cairo is the solution. Sebastian is already working on this. Just wondering, how is G

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006, Mattias Gaertner wrote: > On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 19:37:13 +0100 (CET) > Michael Van Canneyt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, 31 Oct 2006, Mattias Gaertner wrote: > > > > > That's very noble of you. But also very vague. > > > > > > The gtk2 will never run on

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 19:37:13 +0100 (CET) Michael Van Canneyt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 31 Oct 2006, Mattias Gaertner wrote: > > > That's very noble of you. But also very vague. > > > > The gtk2 will never run on the level of gtk1. Most things can and > > will be done better, som

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:10:17 +0100 Ales Katona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I stand corrected, gtk2 fixes in latest revisions are pretty good. > > I still find it rather slow compared to gtk1 tho, probably a gtk2 > issue. Yes and No. gtk2 uses pango which is a rather high level font rendering li

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread Alexsander Rosa
Probably it would be fair to split the money. 2006/10/31, johnf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Tuesday 31 October 2006 11:28, Matt Henley wrote: > The best metric for me would be the developers feeling confident > enough to setting gtk2 as the default toolkit for building the IDE for > Linux in a relea

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread johnf
On Tuesday 31 October 2006 11:28, Matt Henley wrote: > The best metric for me would be the developers feeling confident > enough to setting gtk2 as the default toolkit for building the IDE for > Linux in a released version. However, I would be happy to send money > based on some reasonable milesto

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread Andrew Haines
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: > On 10/31/06, Florian Klaempfl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Now Lazarus freezes and I need to use the command line to kill it. >> > >> > This is Mantis bug 7619 >> >> Works here? > > Umm, it´s possible that I was wrong, and this was recently fixed by > Andrew

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On 10/31/06, Florian Klaempfl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now Lazarus freezes and I need to use the command line to kill it. > > This is Mantis bug 7619 Works here? Umm, it´s possible that I was wrong, and this was recently fixed by Andrew Haines. I´m no longer on linux so cannot test. -- Fe

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho schrieb: I just did svn update, and then make clean all LCL_PLATFORM=gtk2 Opened lazarus. Menu Environment -> Environment Options Now Lazarus freezes and I need to use the command line to kill it. This is Mantis bug 7619 Works here? ___

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread Matt Henley
The best metric for me would be the developers feeling confident enough to setting gtk2 as the default toolkit for building the IDE for Linux in a released version. However, I would be happy to send money based on some reasonable milestone (works well enough for general use as a beta version). I

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread Burkhard Carstens
> > I will also add another 100,- Euro but for me, it must be GTK2 > because I need the freedom to write Close Source Apps .. > I allredy regret my mail. While I am really interested in seeing proper GTK2 support + I am really willing to pay for that, I admit that there are some problems with th

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
I do not represent the people paying for the bounty, but I would like to suggest some things to be on the list, such as these mantis items: http://www.freepascal.org/mantis/view.php?id=7619 http://www.freepascal.org/mantis/view.php?id=964 http://www.freepascal.org/mantis/view.php?id=7385 http:

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread Ales Katona
I stand corrected, gtk2 fixes in latest revisions are pretty good. I still find it rather slow compared to gtk1 tho, probably a gtk2 issue. Ales signature.asc Description: Toto je digitálne podpísaná časť správy

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread A.J. Venter
On Tuesday 31 October 2006 20:39, Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho wrote: > On 10/31/06, A.J. Venter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Actually though -for me personally, QT would be a more important - once > > KDE4 is out, openlab WILL switch, and nothing would make me happier than > > to migrate wole, ol

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On 10/31/06, Michael Van Canneyt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would say that it was quite clear in the initial announcement: The IDE should run and all IDE functionality should work. I disagree. If you say a vague statement such as "IDE should work", there can be misinterpretation about what is

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Ales Katona schrieb: IOW, what is still missing in the gtk2 support? It's not about "what is missing" more like "what is working properly and what not". Ever ran environment options in gtk2 lazarus? It's slow, blinks and takes ages to show up. Ever tried working in gtk2 synedit? Same story.

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On 10/31/06, A.J. Venter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Actually though -for me personally, QT would be a more important - once KDE4 is out, openlab WILL switch, and nothing would make me happier than to migrate wole, olad and the installer to QT instead - maximum integration. I don´t want to rain

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread Ales Katona
> IOW, what is still missing in the gtk2 support? It's not about "what is missing" more like "what is working properly and what not". Ever ran environment options in gtk2 lazarus? It's slow, blinks and takes ages to show up. Ever tried working in gtk2 synedit? Same story. Fix this and you'll d

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006, Mattias Gaertner wrote: > That's very noble of you. But also very vague. > > The gtk2 will never run on the level of gtk1. Most things can and > will be done better, some things like speed and library stability can > not be reached. Can you elaborate on this ? What is wro

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006, Mattias Gaertner wrote: > On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 19:58:09 +0200 > "A.J. Venter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > If I were to claim the bounty with the svn version of today, saying > > > that gtk2 is as good as gtk1, why would you deny it? > > > > > > IOW, what is still miss

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread A.J. Venter
On Tuesday 31 October 2006 20:16, Mattias Gaertner wrote: > On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 19:58:09 +0200 > > "A.J. Venter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > If I were to claim the bounty with the svn version of today, saying > > > that gtk2 is as good as gtk1, why would you deny it? > > > > > > IOW, what is s

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread Vincent Snijders
Mattias Gaertner schreef: On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 19:58:09 +0200 "A.J. Venter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If I were to claim the bounty with the svn version of today, saying that gtk2 is as good as gtk1, why would you deny it? IOW, what is still missing in the gtk2 support? For starters: menu ima

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 19:58:09 +0200 "A.J. Venter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If I were to claim the bounty with the svn version of today, saying > > that gtk2 is as good as gtk1, why would you deny it? > > > > IOW, what is still missing in the gtk2 support? > For starters: menu images and listv

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread Burkhard Carstens
Am Dienstag, 31. Oktober 2006 18:23 schrieb A.J. Venter: > I will add another 100USD to the bounty. > > That's 300USD so far in other words :) > A.J. > > On Tuesday 31 October 2006 19:19, johnf wrote: > > I will offer $200.00 US to anyone that delivers Lazarus running > > either QT or GTK2 at the c

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread A.J. Venter
> If I were to claim the bounty with the svn version of today, saying that > gtk2 is as good as gtk1, why would you deny it? > > IOW, what is still missing in the gtk2 support? For starters: menu images and listview images. A.J. -- "80% Of a hardware engineer's job is application of the uncertain

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread Vincent Snijders
johnf schreef: I will offer $200.00 US to anyone that delivers Lazarus running either QT or GTK2 at the current level Lazarus runs today with GTK1. So what I'm saying is the IDE should be able to run using either QT or GTK2 and programs compiled as either QT or GTK2 must run. It does not ha

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread Alexsander Rosa
It's over US$ 500 now. 2006/10/31, Burkhard Carstens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Am Dienstag, 31. Oktober 2006 18:23 schrieb A.J. Venter: > I will add another 100USD to the bounty. > > That's 300USD so far in other words :) > A.J. > > On Tuesday 31 October 2006 19:19, johnf wrote: > > I will offer $200

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread johnf
I'm not trying to be vague. I just want either GTK2 or QT to work. If there are required difference - so be it. If a combobox requires different parameters OK. John On Tuesday 31 October 2006 09:46, Mattias Gaertner wrote: > That's very noble of you. But also very vague. > > The gtk2 will n

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread Oro06
Alexsander Rosa wrote: It's over US$ 500 now. A Lazarus Foundation is now required and 50% (minimum) sent back to FPC Foundation :-) _ To unsubscribe: mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe" as the Subject

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread Mattias Gaertner
That's very noble of you. But also very vague. The gtk2 will never run on the level of gtk1. Most things can and will be done better, some things like speed and library stability can not be reached. The gtk1 lacks some features and has some bugs. The gtk2 has other bugs. IMHO the gtk1 lacks too m

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread Matt Henley
I would add another US$100, tired of GTK1 Matt Henley On 10/31/06, A.J. Venter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I will add another 100USD to the bounty. That's 300USD so far in other words :) A.J. On Tuesday 31 October 2006 19:19, johnf wrote: > I will offer $200.00 US to anyone that delivers Lazar

Re: [lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread A.J. Venter
I will add another 100USD to the bounty. That's 300USD so far in other words :) A.J. On Tuesday 31 October 2006 19:19, johnf wrote: > I will offer $200.00 US to anyone that delivers Lazarus running either QT > or GTK2 at the current level Lazarus runs today with GTK1. > > So what I'm saying is th

[lazarus] a bounty

2006-10-31 Thread johnf
I will offer $200.00 US to anyone that delivers Lazarus running either QT or GTK2 at the current level Lazarus runs today with GTK1. So what I'm saying is the IDE should be able to run using either QT or GTK2 and programs compiled as either QT or GTK2 must run. It does not have to be both -