Craig wrote:
On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 21:18:18 -0500 "WILTON" wrote:
Thanks! You're really on top of it, aren't you?
He sure is. Mitch is very helpful that way.
I've always hated salesmen. That and wanting to help Wilton were my motivations
here.
I was trying to come up with a way for Wilton
Yeah, I lived in Wisconsin from 88 until 96. Wonderful place if you like the
seasons. I still say the quality of life was far better there than anyplace
else I have lived. Not something you can really quantify.
When I lived there, our favorite tag line was "Come smell our dairy air".
Dan former
Mitch Haley writes:
> Maybe Curt's wife, or Jaime, would like a one owner, last year of
> production, rodbender engine replaced, W126? (at least I think Wilton
> bought it new, and I think both Wilton and Walt got factory
> replacement engines in their 350s.
I was thinking Wilton's had not had a
Andrew S. wrote: "Tan/beige?? This has to be THE least attractive color
combination. To make matters worse, the palomino MB text seats and carpeting
tend to age to different colors over time, so you end up with an unintended
two-tone interior featuring lighter tan seats flanked by darker, almos
Is this normal?
http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2738402491.html
Bob R
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Donald,
What was he asking for it?
Dan
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On Dec 7, 2011, at 9:09 AM, Donald Snook wrote:
> Andrew S. wrote: "Tan/beige?? This has to be THE least attractive color
> combination. To make matters worse, the palomino MB text seats and carpeting
> tend to age to different col
Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
>No he escaped!
>
>In the 70s, the state of Wisconsin put out a bumper sticker to
>promote tourism. It said "Escape to Wisconsin." It was meant for
>FIBs. However in the northern counties, a lot of locals cut them
>apart and put parts on their bumpers:
Dan Penoff wrote:
>Yeah, I lived in Wisconsin from 88 until 96.
What part? I grew up outside of Ogema (middle of the back of your left hand,
our state map before Google came along). Never milked a cow but almost
everyone else I knew did.
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Transplanted Cheesehead
'95 E300, '87 3
Bob Rentfro wrote:
>Is this normal?
>
>http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/cto/2738402491.html
>
>
Yes, and no. Probably worth a look, if not sold already.
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'95 E300, '87 300TD
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I'm not opposed to waste oil burners, I'm opposed to waste oil burners done
poorly and it appears to me that MOST are done poorly...
When I see a car with a waste oil system I deduct from its value 10-20%.
-Curt
Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2011 20:09:35 -0500
From: Mike Esh
To: Mercedes Discussion List
T'other way 'round Loren, I'm living in exile...
Dimitri, I live in north central MA on the New Hampshire border. About 65 miles
north west of Boston. The acreage in Maine is in Caribou which is the last city
(such as it is) north in the state.
-Curt
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 22:48:39 -0600
From:
I lived in Sheboygan (yecch!) for a year or so, then bought some property along
the lake in Port Washington and built a house there.
Sheboygan was a creepy place with 3-4 generations of mildly inbred Dutch and
German descendants. Generally nice people, and a nice town, for sure, but they
didn't
Better yet, if you lived near the southern border of the state, you know what a
"FIB" is...,
Dan
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On Dec 7, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Max wrote:
> Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> No he escaped!
>>
>> In the 70s, the state of Wisconsin put out a bumper sticker to
>>
With any luck it will be April through October.
More likely July and August.
However, I do remember one year when we had the AC on in April and never
again for the rest of the year.
I think that may have been the year that Mt St Helens blew or something
similar.
Randy
On 06/12/2011 6:03 PM,
I am still in awe of just how much former life has accumulated so that we can
recycle it and how long it will take or how much bulk presently living stuff we
need to bury/sequester to equal what we have released in the past 200 years.
There is no economically feasible manner to sequester the CO2
Dan wrote: "What was he asking for it?"
He said $2500. He has been driving it, but things are slow. So, he might make
a deal.
Donald H. Snook
McDonald, Tinker, Skaer, Quinn & Herrington, P.A.
300 West Douglas
P.O. Box 207
Wichita, Kansas 67201 0207
Tel. (316) 263-5851
This confidential message
I agree.
Michael E. Esh
On Dec 7, 2011, at 10:12 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> I'm not opposed to waste oil burners, I'm opposed to waste oil burners done
> poorly and it appears to me that MOST are done poorly...
>
> When I see a car with a waste oil system I deduct from its value 10-20%.
>
>
I like the depolimerization
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_depolymerization] process for providing
solutions to feedstock and recycling/reuse of our waste streams.
Right now we have to sort and wash and jump through hoops to get our waste on
the street corner for pick up. Long lists of
Thanks for Grant's good info.
I asked about biodiesel in part because this started as the Mercedes Diesel
list, in part because the North America is still pretty good a growing
stuff, and in part because I doubt we'll ever do better than carbon-neutral.
Also, because current ultra-lo sulfur Dies
Drove the E350 'bout an hour ago. 'Mighty fine; no prob driving it; quickly
got comfortable with it; plenty of trunk for scooter. Trunk is
significantly longer than 123, 124 and 126 trunks; wonder where fuel tank
is; forgot to ask.
Wilton
- Original Message -
From: "Mitch Haley"
Hear, hear! Don't know about the specifics, but waste management is the
flip side of the raw materials problem and (despite decades of recycling
talk) it seems like we are still in the "collect and bury" mode.
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From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...
Thanks for posting, I think it would be a great car though have to admit not my
favorite color either. If I were in the market would consider.
-Original Message-
From: Donald Snook
To: Mercedes
Sent: Wed, Dec 7, 2011 3:35 am
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 81 300TD For Sale in Wichita, KS
And
'Don't know of anything I hate doing more than dealing with used car
salesman.
Thanks for all the help, Mitch. My 91 350SDL was 4+ years old (79 kmi) when
I bought it in Jun 95; has original engine; timing chain broke at 90 kmi in
Jun 96; 'replaced several valves, lifters, chain, and a bunch
You're right, Allen; engine is original, 'cept much work on top side at 90
kmi.
Wilton
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From: "Allan Streib"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 7:55 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB 211
Mitch Haley writes:
Maybe Curt's wife, or Jaime,
WILTON wrote:
You're right, Allen; engine is original, 'cept much work on top side at
90 kmi.
I think current wisdom has it that the head gasket failing and letting cylinder
#1 fill with water or oil is the real cause of rodbending. Maybe you got a
redesigned gasket as part of the 'replace de
I don't know either.
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Better y
Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
I don't know either.
FIB = effing Illinois bastard, I believe.
I hadn't heard of FISH before. Sh*t Head?
Mitch.
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The chosen 211 is not on cars.com site today; tried to call GM, Mr. Talbot;
no longer there; left msg for replacement, Mr. Ibrihimi.
'Didn't make offer yesterday, 'cause I didn't know 'bout trunk space.
Wilton
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From: "Mitch Haley"
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S
It could be a decent buying opportunity - sorry I was so harsh. The TRULY
important features of a $2500 300TD are the body and drive train.
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From: Donald Snook
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Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 08:09:4
WILTON wrote:
The chosen 211 is not on cars.com site today;
Still on Valley's web page.
Stock #:M37266A
http://www.valleymotors.com/Baltimore/For-Sale/Used/Mercedes-Benz/E-Class/2005-3-2L-CDI-Silver-Car/3934782/
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300D turbodiesel engine looking for a new home. It is currently residing in a
shelter in Silver Spring, Maryland.
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From: Allan Streib
Sender: merc
Autotrader doesn't have the Valley Motors car today either.
But I found this:
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=p&car_id=305438942
What does "rebeld clen title" mean?
If it's a rebuilt title, that's a branded title, not a clean title.
Mitch.
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Yeah, that's a new one for me, too.
Dan
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On Dec 7, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:
> Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>> I don't know either.
>
> FIB = effing Illinois bastard, I believe.
> I hadn't heard of FISH before. Sh*t Head?
>
> Mitch.
>
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In UK during the last world war FISH was the reply to CHIP.
CHIP = Come home I'm pregnant.
FISH = F-off I'm staying here.
Fred Moir
Lynn MA
Diesel preferred
On 12/7/2011 2:08 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
Yeah, that's a new one for me, too.
Dan
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On Dec 7, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Mitch
!!! Not in a million years would I have guessed.
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Andrew
As I am still on the prowl for a car for my eldest son, this caught my
eye..that's why I asked.
I'm not sure where he is resource-wise these days, do I need to follow up and
see how close he is to pulling the trigger.
Thanks,
Dan
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On Dec 7, 2011, at 1:52 PM, "Andrew Stras
Just got info from the stealership; car's been sold.
Wilton
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From: "Mitch Haley"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 1:54 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB 211
WILTON wrote:
The chosen 211 is not on cars.com site today;
Still on Valley's
Dan wrote : "As I am still on the prowl for a car for my eldest son, this
caught my eye..that's why I asked. I'm not sure where he is resource-wise these
days, do I need to follow up and see how close he is to pulling the trigger."
I don't know how fast it will sell. A couple of years ago, the
> From: wilt...@nc.rr.com
>
> Just got info from the stealership; car's been sold.
I hate when that happens. However, when it does happen,
I trust that there will be another deal along soon, as good as, or better than,
the one I just passed up.
Good luck on your search.
Rick
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011, at 12:37 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:
> > From: wilt...@nc.rr.com
> >
> > Just got info from the stealership; car's been sold.
>
> I hate when that happens. However, when it does happen,
> I trust that there will be another deal along soon, as good as, or better
> than, the one I
Yep, I'da pulled the trigger yesterday if I'd known that the trunk could
easily hold my scooter.
Wilton
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From: "Allan Streib"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB 211
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011, at 12:37 PM,
How close are you to Nashua?
My former customer in Woburn was making overtures about hiring me back in the
early 90s, when the housing market was tanking there. We looked at houses in
Nashua, as we didn't want to live in Taxachusetts...
Nice area, for that matter, there are a lot of nice areas
Does he have an online presence where I could see pictures?
Dan
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On Dec 7, 2011, at 3:27 PM, Donald Snook wrote:
> Dan wrote : "As I am still on the prowl for a car for my eldest son, this
> caught my eye..that's why I asked. I'm not sure where he is resource-wise
> these
Sure, I had one.
The 2.5l could also be had with a 5spd. Turbo engines didn't have manual trans
ever.
-Curt
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 07:49:11 -0700
From: Bob Rentfro
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] 190D 2.2 with 5-speed?
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Wilton, if and when you find another 211, how much will you be asking for
the 350SDL?
Alex
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'Don't know; 'need to investigate that a bit, I guess.
I do have in mind somewhat more than Kaleb's standing/usual offer. ;<))
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From: "Alex Chamberlain"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB 211
Someone needs to change the Subject line of this thread.
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From: Dan Penoff
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Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 16:55:00
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Subject: Re: [MBZ]
Well, count me in as interested for sure. Is it as minty as your '87?
On Dec 7, 2011 3:06 PM, "WILTON" wrote:
> 'Don't know; 'need to investigate that a bit, I guess.
> I do have in mind somewhat more than Kaleb's standing/usual offer. ;<))
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Ale
This one's been on the market for a month and a half.
Think he'd take $18k now?
http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/2632031067.html
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On 12/7/11 6:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
Someone needs to change the Subject line of this thread.
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Not as minty as the 87. Though the 87 is 4 YEARS older than the 350SDL, it
is 74 KMI NEWER. SDL is black and has some bird doo blemishes in the paint
on top and trunk; 2 or 3 cracks in paint on hood; still looks good, though,
from few feet away. As I approached it early this afternoon, guy in
Not far, lots of the metro-Boston workforce live in Nashua and the local area.
Its also a huge shopping area where most folks do their back to school shopping
and the like.
-Curt
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 16:55:00 -0500
From: Dan Penoff
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Andrew and g
At least, not in this country. They were sold elsewhere in the world though.
This car sounds like my son's car, but looks a lot better.
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> Sure, I had one.
>
> The 2.5l could also be had with a 5spd. Turbo engines didn't have manual
> trans eve
Dimitri wrote:
> I use biodiesel here and there in varying concentrations up to 100%. I've
> been using it for years. I never once had a problem with the stuff. I'd use
> it a lot more if I had a conveniently located filling station!
>
Yep - the only fuel available here at the truck stop is 11 o
Mountain Man wrote:
Yep - the only fuel available here at the truck stop is 11 or 20 percent.
Why is it that the diesel fuel conditioner anti-gel requires twice the
recommended dose for bio-diesel?
The anti-gel gets expensive at that dosing.
Because Bio-D, especially Soy-D, has a much higher p
Mitch wrote:
> Because Bio-D, especially Soy-D, has a much higher pour point than D2.
It seems the maker should reformulate since most diesel is bio today.
mao
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I have been noticing alarmist reaction to this thing going thru DC.
Now Forbes has the same alarm.
What reality is there in these alarm scares?
mao
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How about a link?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/12/05/the-national-defense-authorization-act-is-the-greatest-threat-to-civil-liberties-americans-face/
mao
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BTW, MB must've gotten a good deal on a lot of grey and silver paint years
ago.
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From: "Mitch Haley"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 6:11 PM
Subject: [MBZ] W211
This one's been on the market for a month and a half.
Thin
Oh I offer real money for decent cars
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On Dec 7, 2011, at 5:06 PM, "WILTON" wrote:
> 'Don't know; 'need to investigate that a bit, I guess.
> I do have in mind somewhat more than Kaleb's standing/usual offer. ;<))
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Alex Cha
What is the name if the dealer?
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On Dec 7, 2011, at 12:47 PM, "WILTON" wrote:
> The chosen 211 is not on cars.com site today; tried to call GM, Mr. Talbot;
> no longer there; left msg for replacement, Mr. Ibrihimi.
> 'Didn't make offer yesterday, 'cause I didn't know 'bout t
Valley Motors, Cockeysville, MD
Rcvd msg this afternoon; car sold.
Wilton
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From: "Kaleb C. Striplin"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] MB 211
What is the name if the dealer?
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On Dec
Huh? Most diesel is biodiesel today? I wish!
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On Dec 7, 2011, at 7:57 PM, Mountain Man wrote:
Mitch wrote:
Because Bio-D, especially Soy-D, has a much higher pour point than D2.
It seems the maker should reformulate since most diesel is bio today.
mao
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This tread is going to make it. i.e longest and mainly:
most useless.
Never seen that much extensive and ignorant reading material.
Go to Alaska, live in your igloo, live on baby seals and call me on your
i-phone
I still think that topping of your oil with recycled petroleum waste (Dino
oil) and
With bio-diesel you are stuck with whatever fatty acids are present
in the parent oil. Bio-D is really methyl or ethyl esters of fatty
acids (the ethyl or methyl group replaces the glycerol in the fat or
oil), and they crystallize at much higher temps than diesel fuel.
If you start crackin
Naa,
It is already in the running for being the longest non-oil thread!
Andrew! Just think! You will be famous!
Albore will be proud!
Someone needs to change the Subject line of this thread.
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As I approached it early this afternoon, guy in a pickup 2 parking
spots away was admiring it and asked, "What year model is that car?"
"91, only 21 years old," I replied, "Built in Dec 90." "Sho looks
better'n the new ones," he said. "Only 198 kmi on it," as I got in.
Wilton
Just a pup
20 years ago today, my son and I bolted a used 400k mile head on the
200D that is now my son's, fired it up and drove it home.
He has had it for 14 years.
Please remember those who died at the surprise attack on Pearl
Harbor, 70 years ago today, 11:45 AM CST. Please consider the price
of fre
I may have a favor to ask
Rick
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Dieselhead wrote:
Please remember those who died at the surprise attack on Pearl Harbor,
70 years ago today, 11:45 AM CST. Please consider the price of freedom,
especially as you go to your primary or caucus this winter or spring.
Everybody remembers Dec 7 at Pearl Harbor, but it seems like
Mountain Man writes:
> It seems the maker should reformulate since most diesel is bio today.
Not around here. I think there is one place in the county that sells it
and it is B1 or B2 (1% or 2% bio, basically it's conventional diesel).
Allan
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Good point!
MacArthur was so arrogant that he thought nobody would dare attack
HIM! Some people thought Patton was arrogant, but compared to
MacArthur, Patton was a very meek humble man.
Dieselhead wrote:
Please remember those who died at the surprise attack on Pearl
Harbor, 70 years ago
With bio-diesel you are stuck with whatever
fatty acids are present in the parent oil.
Bio-D is really methyl or ethyl esters of fatty
acids (the ethyl or methyl group replaces the
glycerol in the fat or oil), and they
crystallize at much higher temps than diesel
fuel.
Peter
As a rule of
> ...wonder where fuel tank is; forgot to ask...
>
Probably two tanks ahead of the rear axle, one on each side like the W203
and W204. Very well protected. Can't have folding seats with it in the old
location.
RLE
>
>
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I don't remember THIS day 70 years ago, but I remember the following day
very well. We didn't have a radio; 'went to school on 8th not knowing about
Pearl Harbor. 'Was in 2nd grade; my friend, Swindell Collins, stood in
class early that morning and told of a "current event;" Japanese had
atta
'Sent 'im a msg asking color of interior; no answer yet; 'don't want a black
interior.
Wilton
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From: "Mitch Haley"
To: "Mercedes Discussion List"
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 6:11 PM
Subject: [MBZ] W211
This one's been on the market for a month and a hal
I don't remember THIS day 70 years ago, but I remember the following
day very well. We didn't have a radio; 'went to school on 8th not
knowing about Pearl Harbor. 'Was in 2nd grade; my friend, Swindell
Collins, stood in class early that morning and told of a "current
event;" Japanese had atta
Caint we all jus git along?
--R
On 12/7/11 10:47 PM, WILTON wrote:
I don't remember THIS day 70 years ago, but I remember the following
day very well. We didn't have a radio; 'went to school on 8th not
knowing about Pearl Harbor. 'Was in 2nd grade; my friend, Swindell
Collins, stood in clas
I remember a cold morning years ago when I poured a clouded up slurry of
biodiesel into my 220D. The thing ran just fine!
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On Dec 7, 2011, at 10:04 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
With bio-diesel you are stuck with whatever fatty acids are present in the
parent
Sure, as long as in the 40s you didn't mind speaking German, being a
socialist and saying heil hitler. in the 50s and 60s and 70s you
could get along as long as you don't mind not having food, being
communist and singing the russian national anthem. from the 1300s
until now, you can get along
Rich, you are so NOT helpful.
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
>
>
> On 12/7/11 6:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>> Someone needs to change the Subject line of this thread.
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
>>
>> -Original
So far, 65 posts to this very subject line.
Here at the 3rd coast we have no Nashua but something called Clear Lake
with Nasa 1 as the main drag.
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> Not far, lots of the metro-Boston workforce live in Nashua and the local
> area. Its also a huge
This is rich in irony, since someone else started the subject. I have no
idea why this became MY thread.
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 9:06 PM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Naa,
> It is already in the running for being the longest non-oil thread! Andrew!
> Just think! You will be famous!
I lost count. 48 here, 14 deleted, 15 some where else and what not I missed.
Of course, it covered the globe; allway from the Left coast to the Outback.
I tune in again next year. It'l be still on.
"As the world turns"
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 10:32 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:
> This is rich in i
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