Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

2012-10-29 Thread clay monroe
Fluid and filters need to be changed. No use running fresh fluid through a nasty filter Fresh standard ATF will help flush gunk out. Not as good as synth, but a short shot of synth will allow you to change to longer periods. clay On Oct 27, 2012, at 8:21 AM, Alan Clarke wrote: > Doesn't do

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

2012-10-28 Thread Curt Raymond
Cheaper is walking, you do oil analysis to ensure you have the best possible lubrication and to get an idea whats going on inside your engine... -Curt Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 10:27:22 -0700 From: Alan Clarke To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

2012-10-27 Thread Alan Clarke
5,000 miles" but I don't recall any mention of what oil he'd used. I always assume the previous owner was and idiot (well except for the car I bought from Dwight) and maintain it accordingly. -Curt Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:21:59 -0700 From: Alan Clarke To: Mercedes Discussion L

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

2012-10-27 Thread Curt Raymond
ume the previous owner was and idiot (well except for the car I bought from Dwight) and maintain it accordingly. -Curt Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:21:59 -0700 From: Alan Clarke To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission Message-ID: <508bfc17.1070...@pacb

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

2012-10-27 Thread Curt Raymond
s on a 30 year old car theres no way to tell if Mobil 1 caused the leak or if the leak was just lying dormant waiting to spring out at any time. -Curt Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 08:52:51 -0600 From: Brian Toscano To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmis

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

2012-10-27 Thread Tim C
On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Alan Clarke wrote: > Doesn't doing several changes defeat the purpose of going to synthetic, > namely extended fluid change. BTW, when I first got my vehicle I stocked up I'd say the primary purpose is superior lubrication. The issue is that the old fluids tend

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

2012-10-27 Thread Brian Toscano
Since synthetic tends to clean out engines and transmissions, switching cars that haven't used synthetics before costs more if you want clean fluid. On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 9:21 AM, Alan Clarke wrote: > Doesn't doing several changes defeat the purpose of going to synthetic, > namely extended fl

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

2012-10-27 Thread Alan Clarke
Doesn't doing several changes defeat the purpose of going to synthetic, namely extended fluid change. BTW, when I first got my vehicle I stocked up on both Amzoil for the engine as well as this transmission fluid which I am now talking about using. This isn't cheap stuff but on the other hand

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

2012-10-27 Thread Brian Toscano
when I changed my transmission over to Mobil synthetic ATF it came out dirty the first several times - lots of black stuff in the fluid. Not chunks, but just not clear. I guess it came from the bands. Similar with the differential. On two diesel trucks I owned, changing to synthetic caused one

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

2012-10-26 Thread clay monroe
I would not fear using Synth in an old transmission. I have used it in both Gump and Frosch with no troubles or leakage. It does tend to clean up the garbage inside the transmission, so you do a short run for the first fill. Also used it in standard street cars 10-20 years old. When you chang

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

2012-10-26 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Good research Rick... the specs are important, especially the older ones listed there. The Amsoil looks like it will work.. I'm a big fan of Febi 08971... you can find it by look up the equivalent MB part number 000 989 92 03 on various sites on the internet. It does wonders for improving the sh

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

2012-10-26 Thread Mitch Haley
Alan Clarke wrote: My thanks to those that responded. It was confusing because MBZ has a list of recommended fluids. According to Amzoil, who I called, the specification is the Dextron III specification and they say that is the critical thing that the fluid meet, which is what I think you were

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

2012-10-26 Thread Alan Clarke
My thanks to those that responded. It was confusing because MBZ has a list of recommended fluids. According to Amzoil, who I called, the specification is the Dextron III specification and they say that is the critical thing that the fluid meet, which is what I think you were saying. It is recom

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

2012-10-26 Thread Tim C
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > Yes seals will often leak when changing to synthetic lubricants as crud gets > cleaned away but frequently the seals will then swell and the same leaks will > then seal up. I've seen this many times when switching to synthetic engine > oil

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

2012-10-26 Thread Curt Raymond
t Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2012 20:34:40 -0700 From: Alan Clarke To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission Message-ID: <508a04d0.4040...@pacbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Wanted some advise or thoughts on using Amsoil ATF in

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

2012-10-26 Thread Mitch Haley
Rick Knoble wrote: I use Mobil 1 ATF as it is cheaper. Amsoil makes fine products too. Mobil 1ATF is thought of as an elixer for tired transmissions by some folks. I would expect Amsoil to perform nearly as well, if not as well as Mobil 1. I don't think Amsoil makes anything, I think they buy

Re: [MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

2012-10-25 Thread Rick Knoble
On Oct 25, 2012, at 10:34 PM, "Alan Clarke" wrote: > Does anyone have any information and or thoughts about the use of synthetic > Amsoil ATF in an older 123 Diesel with a 722.315 transmission? This meets the MB spec http://www.amsoil.com/storefront/atf.aspx That is specified here http://

[MBZ] Amsoil ATF in an older transmission

2012-10-25 Thread Alan Clarke
Wanted some advise or thoughts on using Amsoil ATF in my 85 Turbo. It is a synthetic rated as a Dexron II and III replacement. One mechanic I respect thought it was bad idea to use for reasons of causing leaking seals and the like in an older tranny. The tranny has been serviced regularly and