Re: The latest templating system: PSP in DDJ

2001-07-09 Thread Francesco Pasqualini
I think that a "templating system" is the core component of a CMS (content management system). Probably the right direction (for a good TS) is an engine like Axkit. It support other templating system like ASP and Mason too. It need more documentation and more real world examples and more users (IM

Re: ASP.pm and multipart/form .. error

2001-07-09 Thread Joshua Chamas
ivan wrote: > > hi there , > > I encoutred a problem with ASP.pm (ver.2.17) and multipart form what is > happening is that when I try to use "file" fields I get something like this > into the log > > [Mon Jul 9 23:20:22 2001] [error] [client 192.168.0.5] Invalid method in > request ---

ANNOUNCE: DBIx::Recordset 0.24

2001-07-09 Thread Gerald Richter
The URL ftp://ftp.dev.ecos.de/pub/perl/dbi/DBIx-Recordset-0.24.tar.gz has entered CPAN as file: $CPAN/authors/id/G/GR/GRICHTER/DBIx-Recordset-0.24.tar.gz size: 92611 bytes md5: 76835b342ac63d731a4eb9529613ee99 DBIx::Recordset is a perl module for abstraction and simplification of da

Re: PerlInitHandler and PerlSetEnv

2001-07-09 Thread Gerald Richter
> > > Embperl doesn't need them before the fixup phase, but sometimes you want > > different values for the environment variables for different directories, > > which doesn't work with SetEnv > > really? glancing at mod_env.c looks like it should work. > The docs says: SetEnv directive Syntax:

Re: PerlInitHandler and PerlSetEnv

2001-07-09 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Tue, 10 Jul 2001, Gerald Richter wrote: > Yes, this fixes the problem :-) cool. > Embperl doesn't need them before the fixup phase, but sometimes you want > different values for the environment variables for different directories, > which doesn't work with SetEnv really? glancing at mod_

Re: PerlInitHandler and PerlSetEnv

2001-07-09 Thread Gerald Richter
> this patch should fix the problem. Yes, this fixes the problem :-) > you should also be able to > s/PerlSetEnv/SetEnv/g, unless Embperl needs these variables before the > fixup phase. > Embperl doesn't need them before the fixup phase, but sometimes you want different values for the environ

RE: modperl install without Apache src?

2001-07-09 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, Ged Haywood wrote: > Hi there, > > On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Knox, Laurie A, NPONS wrote: > > >I read somewhere that there were potential problems when running > >mod_perl and PHP together in Apache, but I haven't been able to find > >that info again Is this an issue? > > I

Re: RFC: Logging used Perl Modules (was Re: API Design Question)

2001-07-09 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, James G Smith wrote: > The current code I have uses %INC, but I wanted to write > something like the following: > > sub use : immediate { > # do stuff here if logging > return CORE::use(@_); > } you could just override CORE::GLOBAL::require. you don't need to override

Re: Accessing server config during parent startup

2001-07-09 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Robin Berjon wrote: > cfg = (axkit_dir_config *) > ap_get_module_config(s->module_config, &XS_AxKit); try s->lookup_defaults instead of s->module_config see also: modperl-2.0/src/modules/perl/modperl_pcw.c where you can see howto access all of the config apache has

Re: announce: mod_perl-1.25_01

2001-07-09 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Christian Gilmore wrote: > Doug, > > I didn't see in the announcement that the below fix is included in > 1.25_01. Can you please confirm? the patch has not been committed and will probably wait until after 1.26. i'm concerned that the current patch might introduce bugs els

Re: PerlInitHandler and PerlSetEnv

2001-07-09 Thread Doug MacEachern
this patch should fix the problem. you should also be able to s/PerlSetEnv/SetEnv/g, unless Embperl needs these variables before the fixup phase. Index: src/modules/perl/mod_perl.c === RCS file: /home/cvs/modperl/src/modules/perl/mo

Re: cgi and mod_perl config question

2001-07-09 Thread Stas Bekman
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Wayne Earl wrote: > A client's webserver appears to have both mod_perl and cgi configured for > a single machine. The httpd.conf file contains the following: > > > SetHandler perl-script > PerlHandler Apache::Registry > Options ExecCGI > > > A little later in the file, this

cgi and mod_perl config question

2001-07-09 Thread Wayne Earl
A client's webserver appears to have both mod_perl and cgi configured for a single machine. The httpd.conf file contains the following: SetHandler perl-script PerlHandler Apache::Registry Options ExecCGI A little later in the file, this is found: AddHandler cgi-script .cgi Is the handler fir

Re: The latest templating system: PSP in DDJ

2001-07-09 Thread Ron Savage
> FWIW, Greg McCarroll is writing an article for perl.com on a short > comparison of templating systems, and of course we'll have a talk on > the subject at TPC by Perrin. Ahhh, 'short'. But that's another problem. I realize such articles are hard work, but (especially for those of us struggling

ASP.pm and multipart/form .. error

2001-07-09 Thread ivan
hi there , I encoutred a problem with ASP.pm (ver.2.17) and multipart form what is happening is that when I try to use "file" fields I get something like this into the log [Mon Jul 9 23:20:22 2001] [error] [client 192.168.0.5] Invalid method in request -7d11b8668d066

Re: Filter access to Files on Apache

2001-07-09 Thread Ken Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bach) wrote: >At 11:17 09/07/01 -0500, you wrote: >>If you want to directly send a file, use: >> >>open(DATEI, ...) >>$r->send_fd(DATEI) >>close(DATEI) >> >>You can do an internal redirect using subrequests, if you want. See >>$r->lookup_uri(). > >what kind o

Re: The latest templating system: PSP in DDJ

2001-07-09 Thread Perrin Harkins
> What is needed, IMHO, is a clear > framework,/description/phlogeny/geneology of perl templating systems. I'm writing such a beast for TPC this month, and will publish it when it's ready. I'm not covering every templating module on CPAN though, just the ones that people seem to actually use bas

Re: CGI module or Apache

2001-07-09 Thread darren chamberlain
Dave Hodgkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said something to this effect on 07/09/2001: > Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Just use it in your handlers normally. It'll only be included once per > > process, . . . right? > > Put it in startup.pl and it'll get mostly shared too! Is that anything l

Re: CGI module or Apache

2001-07-09 Thread Paul
--- Kevin Schroeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For the complex programs on the site I'm building I will be using > CGI.pm, but there are a few parts of the site where there is little > browser-server interaction other than to send a certain page based on > the query string and a cookie. Becaus

Re: CGI module or Apache

2001-07-09 Thread Alex Porras
There's Apache::Request, which is the equivalent of CGI.pm in the areas of form submissions and Apache::Cookie for cookie handling. If you're not using the HTML rendering capabilities of CGI.pm, you may look into those two. --Alex Kevin Schroeder wrote: > > Hello, > I've been using the CG

Re: The latest templating system: PSP in DDJ

2001-07-09 Thread Leon Brocard
Ron Pero sent the following bits through the ether: > Don't give up. What is needed, IMHO, is a clear > framework,/description/phlogeny/geneology of perl templating systems. FWIW, Greg McCarroll is writing an article for perl.com on a short comparison of templating systems, and of course we'll h

Re: CGI module or Apache

2001-07-09 Thread Perrin Harkins
Take a look at http://perl.apache.org/guide/ and read the stuff on libapreq. - Perrin

Apache::ASP book

2001-07-09 Thread Castellon, Francisco
Hello people: Is there a book anyone would recommend for apache::ASP programming, preferably something in the beginner section. thanx!

Re: CGI module or Apache

2001-07-09 Thread Dave Hodgkinson
Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Just use it in your handlers normally. It'll only be included once per > process, . . . right? Put it in startup.pl and it'll get mostly shared too! -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star

Re: CGI module or Apache

2001-07-09 Thread Ken Y. Clark
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Kevin Schroeder wrote: > Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 15:02:12 -0500 > From: Kevin Schroeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: modperl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: CGI module or Apache > > Hello, > I've been using the CGI PERL module for a while now and I like > using it a lot. Bu

Re: CGI module or Apache

2001-07-09 Thread Kevin Schroeder
For the complex programs on the site I'm building I will be using CGI.pm, but there are a few parts of the site where there is little browser-server interaction other than to send a certain page based on the query string and a cookie. Because these pages get refreshed a lot I'm thinking that

Re: The latest templating system: PSP in DDJ

2001-07-09 Thread Ron Pero
At 01:01 AM 07/08/01 -0400, Perrin Harkins wrote: >> The latter gives you the ability to develop custom tag modules to >> encapsulate complex server-side behaviors and business rules into simple >> XML-like elements that content developers can use. >> PSP shares the same basic elements with JSP...

Re: CGI module or Apache

2001-07-09 Thread Paul
--- Kevin Schroeder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > I've been using the CGI PERL module for a while now and I like > using it a lot. But I was wondering if using that module with > mod_perl will slow things down because of the extra module being > used. If so, is there a way to use th

CGI module or Apache

2001-07-09 Thread Kevin Schroeder
Hello,     I've been using the CGI PERL module for a while now and I like using it a lot.  But I was wondering if using that module with mod_perl will slow things down because of the extra module being used.  If so, is there a way to use the Apache API and mod_perl to deal with form submissi

Re: Accessing server config during parent startup

2001-07-09 Thread Robin Berjon
On Monday 09 July 2001 19:38, Robin Berjon wrote: > On Monday 09 July 2001 18:09, Geoffrey Young wrote: > > > From: Robin Berjon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > In order to access the configuration, I'm using (in a nutshell): > > > > > > cfg = (axkit_dir_config *) > > > ap_get_module_conf

Re: Apache::SimpleTemplate (don't do it!)

2001-07-09 Thread Robin Berjon
On Monday 09 July 2001 20:19, Gerald Richter wrote: > > to clarify what i mean by 'simple': > > - trivial to install and to use > > That's important Tough some are easy to use and hard to install :) The latter is less important imho, when a module is hard to install it's usually justified someh

Re: Apache::SimpleTemplate (don't do it!)

2001-07-09 Thread Gerald Richter
> > to clarify what i mean by 'simple': > - trivial to install and to use That's important > - small disk footprint > < 10 modules total. preferably 1 disks are cheap, so it doesn't matter if you take one or two MB > - small memory footprint > this is usually the first bottleneck i see wit

Re: Apache::SimpleTemplate (don't do it!)

2001-07-09 Thread Perrin Harkins
> I think that CGI::FastTemplate does all of that. > Please have a look at it, and see if everything you need is not > already in it. It's a good module for CGI, since it doesn't rely on caching/compiling techniques, just simple regex stuff. It will use a lot less RAM than tools that compile in-

Re: ANNOUNCE: HTML::Embperl 2.0b3

2001-07-09 Thread Gerald Richter
> /usr/bin/pod2man: Invalid man page - 1st pod line is not NAME in IntroD.pod > Couldn't install blib/man3/HTML::Embperl::IntroD.3 That are only warnings about the docs, but perldoc foo for example perldoc HTML::Embperl::IntroD will still work. So nothing to worry about. I try to fix this in

Re: ASP.pm and script %main (name-table) !?

2001-07-09 Thread Joshua Chamas
ivan wrote: > > hi, > > How can I access the current script name-table from module. > I'm currently using : > $main::XXX = "123"; > > Then in the script : > > print $XXX; > > but this access the ASP %main not the script %main There is an Apache::ASP mailing list for discussing these things

Re: Accessing server config during parent startup

2001-07-09 Thread Robin Berjon
On Monday 09 July 2001 18:09, Geoffrey Young wrote: > > From: Robin Berjon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > In order to access the configuration, I'm using (in a nutshell): > > > > cfg = (axkit_dir_config *) > > ap_get_module_config(s->module_config, &XS_AxKit); > > I only just skimmed the s

Re: switch user id

2001-07-09 Thread Issac Goldstand
As far as I know, it does not exist now, but I believe it WILL be possible with Apache 2.0/mod_perl 2. Issac - Original Message - From: "Miroslav Madzarevic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 19:02 Subject: switch user id > > As you know, apache

Re: Apache::SimpleTemplate (don't do it!)

2001-07-09 Thread Patrick
On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 12:00:58PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] took time to write: > to clarify what i mean by 'simple': > - trivial to install and to use > - small disk footprint > < 10 modules total. preferably 1 > - small memory footprint > this is usually the first bottleneck i see with > m

switch user id

2001-07-09 Thread Miroslav Madzarevic
As you know, apache runs as nobody.nogroup so these are the files I'm allowed to access. I wish to access files owned by otheruser.othergroup. How can I do this under mod_perl (mason) ? Is there a thing I can use to change my current uid so I can read the file or directory I don't own ? I don't

Re: Apache::SimpleTemplate (don't do it!)

2001-07-09 Thread Robert Landrum
>hi, i'm sure many of us have had situations like this, >but that doesn't mean that everyone who wants to do >some templating is going to fall into the same trap >every time. The problem is that not every feature comes off looking like a trap. >- trivial to install and to use It's rare that I

Re: announce: mod_perl-1.25_01

2001-07-09 Thread Christian Gilmore
Doug, I didn't see in the announcement that the below fix is included in 1.25_01. Can you please confirm? Regards, Christian > -Original Message- > From: Doug MacEachern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 7:59 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: 'Modperl Mailing Li

Re: Filter access to Files on Apache

2001-07-09 Thread Ken Williams
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bach) wrote: >perhaps it is off-topic (sorry for that, but i hope that somebody of you >can help me), but somehow i wish to have a solution with precompiled perl >such as mod_perl or ... everything else which fits to my needs. > >I want to filter every access of for exa

can't start apache-1.3.20 with mod_perl and Mason

2001-07-09 Thread Louis-David Mitterrand
Hi, After "upgrading" my installation to Apache-1.3.20 and mod_perl-1.25 as as a module I can't start apache anymore when httpd.conf contains: PerlRequire /etc/apache/perl/handler.pl And that file (for debugging purposes) is practically empty: #!/usr/bin/perl package HT

RE: Accessing server config during parent startup

2001-07-09 Thread Geoffrey Young
> -Original Message- > From: Robin Berjon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 11:58 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Accessing server config during parent startup > > > Hi, > > I'm having trouble trying to access server config directives > during parent > s

Re: Apache::SimpleTemplate (don't do it!)

2001-07-09 Thread peter
hi, i'm sure many of us have had situations like this, but that doesn't mean that everyone who wants to do some templating is going to fall into the same trap every time. to clarify what i mean by 'simple': - trivial to install and to use - small disk footprint < 10 modules total. preferably 1

ASP.pm and script %main (name-table) !?

2001-07-09 Thread ivan
hi, How can I access the current script name-table from module. I'm currently using : $main::XXX = "123"; Then in the script : print $XXX; but this access the ASP %main not the script %main ... Is there a way to access script "main" package and pull data there I'm working with ASP.pm-mod_

Accessing server config during parent startup

2001-07-09 Thread Robin Berjon
Hi, I'm having trouble trying to access server config directives during parent startup. Basically, I've got a module which needs to access a configuration directive in order to compile some non-Perl files to Perl while the server starts and before children are created so that the code they gen

Re: announce: mod_perl-1.25_01

2001-07-09 Thread Stas Bekman
> > > > > > under bleed-perl (one week old compilation) (the rest is the same) there > > are some problems: (perl build args are at the end of this post) > > > > $ ./t/TEST -v modules/cgi > > fails to start the server, whereas > > 1.xx never did start the serve

PerlInitHandler and PerlSetEnv

2001-07-09 Thread Michael Barry
All, I've noticed some odd behavior (or maybe just errant thinking on my part) concerning PerlInitHandler and PerlSetEnv. While walking through the demo of HTML::EmbperlObject, things were just not working as advertised. This configuration: PerlSetEnv EMBPERL_OBJECT_BASE base.htm PerlSet

Re: ANNOUNCE: HTML::Embperl 2.0b3

2001-07-09 Thread paul
"Gerald Richter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The third beta of Embperl 2.0 is now available from > ftp://ftp.dev.ecos.de/pub/perl/embperl/HTML-Embperl-2.0b3.tar.gz I got the following errors during make on Linux 2.2.12-20 (Red Hat 6.1):- /usr/bin/perl -I/usr/lib/perl5/5.00503/i386-linux -I/us

Re: announce: mod_perl-1.25_01

2001-07-09 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, Stas Bekman wrote: > On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Doug MacEachern wrote: > all tests pass cleanly. cool. > > > under bleed-perl (one week old compilation) (the rest is the same) there > are some problems: (perl build args are at the end of thi

Re: announce: mod_perl-1.25_01

2001-07-09 Thread Doug MacEachern
On Fri, 6 Jul 2001, Ken Williams wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Doug MacEachern) wrote: > >this is a 1.26 canidate, test reports most appreciated as always.. > > I just tested on Darwin (Mac OS X) with Apache 1.3.20 and using a simple > 'perl Makefile.PL EVERYTHING=1' . All tests pass, with no war

RE: re rand bug?

2001-07-09 Thread Stas Bekman
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Purcell, Scott wrote: > Sorry to be confused, but I believe I did not create a global variable. In > the code below that I showed, I used a my to localize the $tmp variable > inside the for loop.? > > Anyway, I changed the simple code and added the use strict and use vars > qw

Re: 2 questions

2001-07-09 Thread Perrin Harkins
> I've sent this email to Template-Toolkit mailing list... but there doesn't > seem to be anyone, so I'm sending it here ... Um, you did send it at 6:30PM on a Sunday (yesterday). Support on that list is really good, but you can't expect everyone to be on the same schedule as you. > How can in

Filter access to Files on Apache

2001-07-09 Thread Thomas Bach
Hello list perhaps it is off-topic (sorry for that, but i hope that somebody of you can help me), but somehow i wish to have a solution with precompiled perl such as mod_perl or ... everything else which fits to my needs. I want to filter every access of for example all .jpg-files on my apache

Re: re rand bug?

2001-07-09 Thread darren chamberlain
Purcell, Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said something to this effect on 07/09/2001: > Sorry to be confused, but I believe I did not create a global variable. In > the code below that I showed, I used a my to localize the $tmp variable > inside the for loop.? > > Anyway, I changed the simple code and

RE: re rand bug?

2001-07-09 Thread Purcell, Scott
Sorry to be confused, but I believe I did not create a global variable. In the code below that I showed, I used a my to localize the $tmp variable inside the for loop.? Anyway, I changed the simple code and added the use strict and use vars qw($rand), but now I get no random activity at all. Each

Re: any trick to exclude some files in FilesMatche

2001-07-09 Thread darren chamberlain
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Surat Singh Bhati wrote: > But all the .pl , including fast_(.*).pl are run by Apache::PerlRun handler > Any solution to exclude the fast_(.*).pl in second expression? Set the PerlRun handler as the default in httpd.conf, and write your own translation handler: package Apache

Re: 2 questions

2001-07-09 Thread darren chamberlain
ivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said something to this effect on 07/09/2001: > ok I have two questions about TT, let me begin with the > first one the easier ... *snip* > How can in the parent template distinguish between these two > cases (if scalar place it, if file include it ). There is > thi

Re: any trick to exclude some files in FilesMatche

2001-07-09 Thread Ged Haywood
Hi there, On Mon, 9 Jul 2001, Surat Singh Bhati wrote: [snip] > But all the .pl , including fast_(.*).pl are run by Apache::PerlRun handler [snip] > Any solution to exclude the fast_(.*).pl in second expression? Rename the files? 73, Ged.

2 questions

2001-07-09 Thread ivan
hi, I've sent this email to Template-Toolkit mailing list... but there doesn't seem to be anyone, so I'm sending it here ... Could anyone help me out with these ok I have two questions about TT, let me begin with the first one the easier ... I have the folowing situations I have a template like