Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

Thanks for Pharo 8.0! Sorry to revive this thread again and again since version 6, but the full screen freeze problem on Mac still persists. Did a clean install today of Pharo 8.0 as follows: Remove all Pharo, apps, images, launcher from before < Pharo 8.0 (saved my stuff in .st files before

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

Sorry for the later response. yes here too: resizing didn't cause problems. Drastic work around :o) : I have now installed Pharo 7.0 on my other Windows 10 PC, Using the Pharo Launcher. ** Everything works ok, on my windows machine. installed Seaside, my own app dev from .st fileins. etc. Great!

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

The error is quite specific, you have to click on the maximise green button on a Mac and go full screen - if you just resize or alt-click that button you don’t seem to get this problem (at least I haven’t been able to - but Ted hasn’t confirmed this yet). So I don’t think its quite so bad - and

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

Hmmm, this is worrisome. My JRMPC competition opens for registration in less than a month, and registrants may use either Windows or Mac. Since the competition is based on Pharo 7, it is absolutely crucial that Mac-using registrants be able to successfully run Pharo 7. Since my Mac mini died last

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

Hi Tim, I did that before (see thread history) and other kinds of magic too. Probably (still) a VM error? (because it happens with squeak also, which uses same VM?) However, it is beyond my skills and knowledge No idea how to solve this. The problem has been around for much too long It

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

Out of curiosity - instead of going true “full screen” (I’m assuming you are clicking the green + button), try doing alt+click green button (which just resizes the window full screen), and then try your steps - does that make a difference? I believe there is a full screen issue covered here

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

To All (this thread becomes a bit long) Ca. 4 months later: Today 2 Aug 2019 I did this: -downloaded and run Pharo Launcher. -In the launcher, downloaded and started the fresh Pharo 7.0 64 image Pharo then starts up with this image (but did it also launch with the most recent VM it could

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

Thanks, but I will revert to Pharo 5.0 (pre spur VM) again... until the problems with 7.x are solved... or 8 is really stable. I was regularly telling colleagues with whom I converse on Twitter (e.g. Swift, C# and other programmers) that they should try Smalltalk, especially Pharo, to see for

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

On Tue, 30 Apr 2019 at 17:44, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > > TedVanGaalen wrote: > > Crying victory too soon: > > Alas, it happened again pharo screen frozen, > > partly drawn, when going to full screen > > ( see image.) > > frustrating. > > The strange thing however: > > the Seaside/Zinc server

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

TedVanGaalen wrote: > Crying victory too soon: > Alas, it happened again pharo screen frozen, > partly drawn, when going to full screen > ( see image.) > frustrating. > The strange thing however: > the Seaside/Zinc server > kept running that is: I could enter and save data in > in my test

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

Crying victory too soon: Alas, it happened again pharo screen frozen, partly drawn, when going to full screen ( see image.) frustrating. The strange thing however: the Seaside/Zinc server kept running that is: I could enter and save data in in my test app running in the web browser! No idea

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

FYI FWIWfurther testing: Running 7.03 with the 20181039 VM -loaded Seaside 3.3 from Git -filed in my test web app + utils everything working OK without any changes! Thanks TedvG -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

Forgot to mention : Tests were run with newest 7.03 image, also downloaded today. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

Hi Stephan Yes, tested this briefly: I confirm that 20181039 works, 201810230536 is broken The broken version freezes as soon as selecting full screen from the menu it freezes also when resizing or moving the window. (after force quitting it and restarting. The 20181039 on first

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

Ben Coman wrote: > On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 at 17:33, Stephan Eggermont > wrote: >> >> TedVanGaalen wrote: >>> Hi Stephan >>> yes, you wrote that already before, but >>> which specific VM from files.pharo.org? there are many. >>> TedvG >> >> Please compare if you have the same results I had as I

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

On Sun, 28 Apr 2019 at 17:33, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > > TedVanGaalen wrote: > > Hi Stephan > > yes, you wrote that already before, but > > which specific VM from files.pharo.org? there are many. > > TedvG > > Please compare if you have the same results I had as I described in the > issue >

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

TedVanGaalen wrote: > Hi Stephan > yes, you wrote that already before, but > which specific VM from files.pharo.org? there are many. > TedvG Please compare if you have the same results I had as I described in the issue 20181039 works, 201810230536 is broken

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

Hi Stephan yes, you wrote that already before, but which specific VM from files.pharo.org? there are many. TedvG -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

TedVanGaalen wrote: > Hi Stephan > I am a bit confused, not really at home in your VM world, > so please send me a link for the VM + an Image that you'd like me to try on > my mac. > Thanks > Ted > > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html > > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

Hi Stephan, Pending: (Which VM?) If you still think trying a VM with Pharo 7 on my Mac is important for you to conquer the bug in the VM, then please tell me which VM I should try out on my Mac. Regards TedvG -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

Hi Stephan I am a bit confused, not really at home in your VM world, so please send me a link for the VM + an Image that you'd like me to try on my mac. Thanks Ted -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

TedVanGaalen wrote: > ok, I'll try > please give me a link to that VM 20182039 > can't find it here: > https://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur64/ Sorry, that’s a typo. See the issue

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

ok, I'll try please give me a link to that VM 20182039 can't find it here: https://files.pharo.org/vm/pharo-spur64/mac/ TedvG -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

TedVanGaalen wrote: > Thanks for the Info/Link, Stephan > > So it is a VM error then? > That is what I asked you to verify. Does the problem occur with 20182039? If not, then it is probably the same bug. Stephsn

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

Thanks for the Info/Link, Stephan So it is a VM error then? Guess we'll have to wait for a VM + Pharo 7.xx combo that works correctly on macOS. I now re-installed Pharo 5.0 (pre spur vm) loaded Seaside with Zincserver (using gofer) into it and my .st files from 2011... might be a bit slower

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

TedVanGaalen wrote: > Sure. Which one? and with what image? See https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm/issues/380 Stephan

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

Did just try with scaled resolution 1920 * 1080 (on my 4K screen) to no avail. same error:freeze with "toggle full screen" -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

Hope stack tells more. Could dig out an old hdmi HD monitor from unpacked moving cartons somewhere, tell me you don't need me to do so :o\ -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

from the other terminal window: teds-personal-mac-mini:~ TedvG$ ps -a | grep pharo 811 ttys0000:00.01 bash ./pharo-ui Pharo.image 815 ttys0000:10.06 /Users/TedvG/pharo-vm/Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Pharo Pharo.image 824 ttys0010:00.00 grep pharo teds-personal-mac-mini:~ TedvG$

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

and so i did. result (the omega was a ctrl z to get up. had to open another term. window to kill and dump. see here: = teds-personal-mac-mini:~ TedvG$ ./pharo-ui Pharo.image Ω SIGUSR1 Wed Apr 17 17:45:27 2019 VM:

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

Note! Just being playing a bit further with Squeak 5.2 and it freezes too, when resizing the window! Similar things in VM ? Regards TedvG -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

Don't know about 4k. Have you tried a smaller monitor on your mini just to see? When pharo locks up from the command line you can get a stack dump in the terminal window you started pharo in. first find the pharo process you're interested in with ps -a | grep pharo then do a kill -SIGUSR1

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

Sure. Which one? and with what image? However, don't know if that would make a difference, because I've been trying this repeatedly since Pharo 6.0 Squeak 5.2 (just downloaded and launched just to try) works ok, but for what I do, and previous work/classes made with Pharo 5.0, Pharo/Seaside would

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

TedVanGaalen wrote: > The freeze problem still exist. (since 2017, starting with Pharo 6) Hi Ted. It would be interesting to see if this is related to the fullscreen bug I described in an opensmalltalkvm issue. I was able to triangulate it to a set of commits, so could you try with a vm from

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

Hi Sven -launched the original image again. -dragged the Pharo window to almost full screen, (4K) it then gets redrawing problems: - drawing the window contents partly - and in the wrong places and after a short time then freezes again. Exactly the same symptoms as described

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

Try option-click on the green window expansion button. This will put the window in almost full screen mode. In my experience, that works much better. > On 17 Apr 2019, at 13:05, TedVanGaalen wrote: > > Hi Paul > thanks for responding. > > what I did now: > - removed all Pharo apps & images

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

Hi Paul thanks for responding. what I did now: - removed all Pharo apps & images etc. from my system (no problem, i have all i need backed up in .st and .mcz files) followed your instructions to install the latest VM and Image: terminal log: ===

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

HI Ted, How did you install Pharo? I ask because I tested the process you described and everything worked fine on my mac, also Mojave 10.14.4 I opened a terminal, made a temp directory and pasted in curl https://get.pharo.org/64/ | bash to install Pharo. I started the image with

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini -also in 7.03

Hello The freeze problem still exist. (since 2017, starting with Pharo 6) 16 April 2019: Today I have loaded Pharo7.0.3-0-64bit-0903ade.image with VM On my Mac Mini late 2012, mac OS Mojave 10.14.4 (OS up to date, system

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

You can use Pharo to make iOS apps . Is it a good idea ? Don't know but the author of Dr Geo can jump in here and advise you. he is the one that released Dr Geo for iOS. I think it's Android that is a bit more problematic. Your freeze is indeed weird but when it comes to MacOS , it seems I am

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

Hi Stephane, Ben In the Smalltalk world, you could value me as a relatively "simple" application developer as a first attempt after a long time, I am trying to make a dentist's app with Pharo Smalltalk. (The intend is to use Smalltalk (Pharo) with Seaside and Postgress whenever possible,

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

Within WorldState>>doOneCycle, try writing to a file every second, and at the command line use...tail -f ... to see if it keeps writing when the screen is frozen. And also try writing to a file in a forked process. cheers -ben On Sun, Aug 27, 2017 at 1:58 AM, Stephane Ducasse

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

But it is a freeze or a screen refresh problem? Can you try to command . heavily on your frozen image? On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 2:48 PM, Ben Coman wrote: > Hi Ted, > > You might consider building a debug VM. There is a random chance it > provides useful insight. > At its

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

Hi Ted, You might consider building a debug VM. There is a random chance it provides useful insight. At its simplest all you need to do is... $ git clone https://github.com/OpenSmalltalk/opensmalltalk-vm.git $ cd opensmalltalk-vm/build.macos32x86/pharo.cog.spur $ ./mvm -A taken from...

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

note btw in the screenshot that that some text in the dialogue boxes are not completely drawn, like “Advanced featur..”, "Cache siz…”, “Glyph contras…”, etc. this doesn’t change when the column width is increased with the mouse. TedvG > On 25. Aug 2017, at 15:55, Ted F.A.van Gaalen

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

I don't think it's just on Mac Mini - my MacBook Pro late 13" 2016 retina will show similar symptoms if I try and resize the window to full screen (not the maximise button, but try and drag the bottom corner of the world to the last 5-10 pixels at the bottom of the screen). I think Ted noticed

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

Hi John, … thanks. another wild, wild guess: it could then perhaps be, (if Pharo uses Open GL) that my graphics card has Open GL incompatibility? or that Pharo 6.1 uses Open GL calls not implemented on an Intel HD Graphics 4000 chip as in my mac mini? kind regards TedvG > On 25. Aug 2017,

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

Hi Ben, Did the following - restoring Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Plugins/libFT2Plugin.dylib (by renaming its extension back to .dylib) - started Pharo -setting use Free type ON -setting Update fonts at start ON it then immediately starts loading fonts, (which I thought might be a good idea

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

I don't know if it matters, but on my Retina 5K, 27 inch, Late 2015 iMac, AMD Radeon R9 M395 wirh 2048 MB running MacOS 10.12.6 I don't have a problem resizing or maximizing Pharo 6.1. On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 6:28 AM, Ted F.A.van Gaalen wrote: > > > > Hi, I reverted to 5.0

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

What happens if you untick "Use FreeType" in System > Settings? cheers -ben On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 10:06 PM, TedVanGaalen wrote: > yes, after full screen -> normal window -> minimise -> reshow it did. > (not in any particular order, tried al those before as well) > > TedvG

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

yes, after full screen -> normal window -> minimise -> reshow it did. (not in any particular order, tried al those before as well) TedvG > On 24. Aug 2017, at 15:46, EstebanLM [via Smalltalk] > wrote: > > and image still freezing? > > Esteban > >> On

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

and image still freezing? Esteban > On 24 Aug 2017, at 15:28, TedVanGaalen wrote: > > Hi Esteban, > unfortunately that doesn’t make any difference. > What I did: > extension temporarily renamed to …..wasAdylib > Started Pharo app by clikcing on it (gets the downloaded

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

Hi Esteban, unfortunately that doesn’t make any difference. What I did: extension temporarily renamed to …..wasAdylib Started Pharo app by clikcing on it (gets the downloaded maiden image) then: “FT2Error:Freetype2 primitive failed [error -1][can’t get error string]” this screen dump is

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

it may have something to do with FreeType. Can you try removing/renaming Pharo.app/Contents/MacOS/Plugins/libFT2Plugin.dylib ? (just to test) thanks, Esteban > On 24 Aug 2017, at 14:00, TedVanGaalen wrote: > > Yesterday 23 Aug, I completely deleted all Pharo 6.1 64 bit

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

Yesterday 23 Aug, I completely deleted all Pharo 6.1 64 bit and then downloaded and reinstalled it, but the same problems are still present. Then I installed Squeak5.1-16549-64bit, which works without problems. (I don't know if it uses the same VM as Pharo 6.1 64 bit?, if that is true, then the

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

ok, thanks, is there a difference in the 32 and 64 bit vm behaviour? it seemed to me they both had this error, but I am a byte confused now. Anyway, for the time being it is not a problem to continue with Pharo 5.0. TedvG > On 16. Aug 2017, at 18:25, EstebanLM [via Smalltalk] >

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

> On 16 Aug 2017, at 16:55, Stephan Eggermont wrote: > > Please try starting your Pharo image with a new squeak vm. I remember Tobias > posting something on a full screen bug fix about a year ago, and don't know > what happened with it. It was around the same time as his

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

Please try starting your Pharo image with a new squeak vm. I remember Tobias posting something on a full screen bug fix about a year ago, and don't know what happened with it. It was around the same time as his hiDPI fix, which triggered some garbage collection issue at the time. Some part of

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

Aha! similar here! Didn't do that before: resizing after freezing. So almost sure it has to do with resizing only? 1: after maximizing to full screen parts are not redrawn but still can drag windows around: 2: then after coming back

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

Actually this reminds me of a similar problem I’ve seen on my MacBook Pro (retina) - if I stretch the desktop to try and use the full space of the screen (not maximising it) I have on occasion frozen - however its not actually frozen it seems that drawing on screen has stopped, and if I resize

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

here's a screenshot. notice the white band in the content area after maximizing the window. It freezed, can't move the inner windows anymore and ctrl '.' user interrupt doesn't work and have to force quit Pharo. No idea what happens but Pharo 5.0 runs as stable as ever. Kind Regards TedvG

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 2:07 AM, TedVanGaalen wrote: > Hi, > I have now tried to run Pharo 6.1 32 bit with > setting the screen resolution in > macOS System Preferences to the following > what they call "scaled resolutions" (read "non-native resolutions"), > which are less that

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

The screen is a Samsung U28D590 3840 x 2160 @ 30Hz (max reso on intel 4000 graphics) via a Thunderbolt->DisplayPort cable. Initially not directly supported, that is, the resolution was not recognized by the OS as-is, but has been enabled with the SwitchResx app here http://www.madrau.com/ which

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

But I'm quite convinced is more related to the screen than the macmini. At least, I will like to test in that direction. > On 11 Aug 2017, at 19:23, Stephane Ducasse wrote: > > We do not have mac minis around to test if this is related to the hardware. > > Stef > >>

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

Well, I am in Speyer, Germany, probably too far away, Although not really good in low level debugging nevertheless, if I can help in some way, please let me know! Does it run OK then on other 4/5K screen macs? TedvG www.speyer.de -- View this message in context:

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

We do not have mac minis around to test if this is related to the hardware. Stef On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 5:05 PM, TedVanGaalen wrote: > .. hard to imagine I am the only one with this problem? > > > > -- > View this message in context: >

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

.. hard to imagine I am the only one with this problem? -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-6-0-and-6-1-64-bit-freeze-on-MacMini-tp4957969p4960027.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

thanks for you reply, Esteban well, I can still use Pharo 5 in the mean time, no problem. how/where should I forward this to vm-dev? Regards, have a nice holiday! Ted -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-6-0-and-6-1-64-bit-freeze-on-MacMini-tp4957969p4960023.html

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

> On 11 Aug 2017, at 13:48, TedVanGaalen wrote: > > since 1.8.2017 there was no response, did already anyone thought/worked to > solve this problem? > Thank you, > Ted not yet. I’m on holidays so I cannot test anything. in a couple of weeks, maybe… but I’m guessing this is

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

since 1.8.2017 there was no response, did already anyone thought/worked to solve this problem? Thank you, Ted TedVanGaalen wrote > Very very wild guess: it could have to do with GPU<-> Open GL? <-> Pharo > call time out issues because the Intel HD 4000 GPU is working at its > (officially allowed)

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

Very very wild guess: it could have to do with GPU<-> Open GL? <-> Pharo call time out issues because the Intel HD 4000 GPU is working at its (officially allowed) upper performance limits with 3840 x 2160 at 30 Hz refresh rate (maximum). OTOH however: 1. I am not a GPU Guru.. 2. It works

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

Hi, I have now tried to run Pharo 6.1 32 bit with setting the screen resolution in macOS System Preferences to the following what they call "scaled resolutions" (read "non-native resolutions"), which are less that the native screen resolution: 3200 x 1800 and 1920 x 1080. In these resolutions

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

- Do you have an exception? a PharoDebug.log file? a crash.dmp? I didn't found neither of this files on my system. TedvG -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-6-0-and-6-1-64-bit-freeze-on-MacMini-tp4957969p4958167.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

OS = macOS Sierra Version 10.12.6 I have encountered the same behaviour for Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit or 32 bit, it doesn't matter. Workflow: Downloaded Pharo6.1-mac.zip and placed the resulting .app file into the normal Applications folder (a hit on the Pharo website recommends this for Sierra)

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

What happens if you lower the display resolution? cheers -ben On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 9:28 PM, Ted F.A.van Gaalen wrote: > > > > Hi, I reverted to 5.0 because Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit hangs on > my Mac Mini with UDH 4K screen (may that has to do with?) > with its maiden image

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

Also, - How did you install pharo? Command line and zero conf? Website download link? - What does it mean to "freeze"? - Do you have an exception? a PharoDebug.log file? a crash.dmp? Can you try to open you image from the command line? $ Pharo.app/Contents/Pharo Pharo.image #I do not remember

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

On 31-07-17 16:42, TedVanGaalen wrote: I've just installed the 32bit version. same problems here. freezes Where did you install what versions of vm and image on what OS X version? Stephan

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

I've just installed the 32bit version. same problems here. freezes -- View this message in context: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-6-0-and-6-1-64-bit-freeze-on-MacMini-tp4957969p4957982.html Sent from the Pharo Smalltalk Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

[Pharo-users] Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit freeze on MacMini

Hi, I reverted to 5.0 because Pharo 6.0 and 6.1 64 bit hangs on my Mac Mini with UDH 4K screen (may that has to do with?) with its maiden image (at first start after download when: I resize or go to full screen. Maybe VM problem? my mac Mini metrics: Hardware Overview: Model Name: Mac