Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-12 Thread Martin Baxter
After that "poke holes in the story" post here, I won't be partaking. Martin (usually doesn't revel in being difficult...) -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* Date : Tue, 12 May 2009 06:47:3

[RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-12 Thread B. Smith
s.com, Augustus Augustus wrote: > > Martin, >   > when u going?  i need 2 see it again, so i will tag along with u. >   > Fate. > > --- On Tue, 5/12/09, Martin Baxter wrote: > > > From: Martin Baxter > Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *S

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-12 Thread Augustus Augustus
Martin,   when u going?  i need 2 see it again, so i will tag along with u.   Fate. --- On Tue, 5/12/09, Martin Baxter wrote: From: Martin Baxter Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, May 12, 2009, 8:01 AM To

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-12 Thread Martin Baxter
> > > > > > -----[ Received Mail Content ]-- > > Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* > > Date : Mon, 11 May 2009 17:13:27 - > > From : "B. Smith" > > To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > > > Well I

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-11 Thread Justin Mohareb
beauty. One guy I > know even called it "channeling DeForrest Kelley". > > Spoil one thing for me, though. Does Urban-as-McCoy say The Line? > > > > > > -----[ Received Mail Content ]-- > >  Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *S

[RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-11 Thread Martin Baxter
The Line? -[ Received Mail Content ]---------- Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* Date : Mon, 11 May 2009 17:13:27 - From : "B. Smith" To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Well I'm late to the party but I have to say that I really, really,

[RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-11 Thread Martin Baxter
Meta, Just let me know who you want to bring it to your door, and I'll have Gabrielle hand it off. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* Date : Mon, 11 May 2009 18:57:48 - From : "Meta"

[scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-11 Thread Meta
Martin, I'll take it if you don't want it, especially wrapped in those C-notes. You can, of course keep Gabrielle, my flow don't go THAT way.:) Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Martin Baxter" wrote: > > Not even if you were to buy me the Special Edition DVD when it came out, > wrapped

[scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-11 Thread B. Smith
Well I'm late to the party but I have to say that I really, really, really enjoyed the new movie. It was definitely a good time at the movies and it delivered in a big way. The people in the theater actually applauded at the end the movie. I think all of the main actors did really well in thei

[RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-11 Thread Martin Baxter
Nonononononono... I called first. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* Date : Mon, 11 May 2009 17:01:11 - From : "ravenadal" To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Okay, Martin, I was with you all the way

[scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-11 Thread ravenadal
Okay, Martin, I was with you all the way up to the Gabrielle Union in the "old school" Uhura uniform comment but, to paraphrase Ozzie Osbourne, you have just taken a ride on the bloody crazy train! (Uh, gentlemen, that Gabrielle Union home delivery of the DVD IS something I might be interested

RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-11 Thread Martin Baxter
Forgive the implication, Exalted List Goddess -- ne'er shall this one stray. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* Date : Sun, 10 May 2009 16:16:46 -0700 From : "Tracey de Morsella" To : You a

[RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-11 Thread Martin Baxter
Marian, I've heard that the notion you posit has been discussed at the highest levels. No word on whether it happens in reality or not. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* Date : Sun, 10 May 2009 23:22:46 -

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-11 Thread Martin Baxter
Ah. Too busy staring at Seven's Two Little Friends... -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* Date : Mon, 11 May 2009 01:01:20 -0400 From : To : Maybe they were too busy watching to see if Janeway and Seven was

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread wlrouge
Maybe they were too busy watching to see if Janeway and Seven was going to break it again. --Lavender -- From: "sincere1906" Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 4:36 AM To: Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* > Okay. Gett

[scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread sincere1906
Damn. You just made some red matter suck my brain into a black hole... those are alot of conundrums unleashed by this timeline/alternate reality change. I hadn't thought of any of those, and now there must be hundreds of others. Alot of Trek geeks are out of a job, and we've entered an ultimate

[scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread marian_changling
Some elegant chess playing there. You are thinking 10 moves ahead! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, Daryle Lockhart wrote: > > Yeah see, once Spock spilled the trans-warp equation, I knew he > was going to be a problem. He proved to BE said problem by having a > conversation with himse

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread Daryle Lockhart
Yeah see, once Spock spilled the trans-warp equation, I knew he was going to be a problem. He proved to BE said problem by having a conversation with himself. To be specific, everything we know in Star Trek, as of now, did not happen. Because Nero went back in time and destroyed the Kel

[scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread marian_changling
Wasn't Tom Baker briefly married to Lalla Ward (one of the Romanas)? Yeah...1980 to 1982 according to Wiki. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella" wrote: > > Don't forget that she ended up dating Tennant who played her dad. That > kinda made it worse for me > > > > From: s

[scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread marian_changling
With all of the discussion of alternative timestreams here Are people thinking that future movies might try to mingle the two alternative Star Trek histories? I certainly hope not. (Mr. Shatner might yet talk himself into the new Trek!) If this is the new history, I hope they go forward

RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread Tracey de Morsella
il Content ]-- Subject : [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* Date : Sun, 10 May 2009 21:03:28 - >From : "sincere1906" To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com But this is scifinoir...where we can get into convulted arguments about everything from individuality and consciousness in the

RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread Tracey de Morsella
@yahoogroups.com Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* I was a near instance Picard fan, mainly because he was the total opposite of Kirk. If Kirk had been killed at anytime during TOS, I'd have leaped for joy.:) I really didn't like him until the movies appeared. Watching

RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread Tracey de Morsella
:46 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* I have seen the movie and I loved it. My feelings about this non-issue is the same as yours. I just will not be drawn into a convoluted argument about Trek loyalties. Meta --- In scifinoir2

RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread Tracey de Morsella
joy and gripe. Griping can be fun > > > > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Justin Mohareb > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:46 AM > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOI

RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread Tracey de Morsella
int Chocolates: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html > > > Dare to take The Oath in this fantasy series: http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath > > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Martin Baxter > > > wrote: &

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread Tracey de Morsella
sincere1906 Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 1:41 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* ROTFL. Man just the image of Picard in that scene has me laughing. But recall that Picard's Ahab-like obstinance had to be tempered by Alfree Woodard... "You

RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread Martin Baxter
Tracey, you should change your post-name to that. Truth in advertising, after all... ;-D -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* Date : Sun, 10 May 2009 11:45:00 -0700 From : "Tracey de Morsella" To :

[RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread Martin Baxter
sin, I had a hit off the whisper-stream a few months back, that a crossover with the original Trek timeline was a possible go. -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* Date : Sun, 10 May 2009 20:32:20 - From : "sincer

[RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread Martin Baxter
. It's saved my life, and the lives of three other people. It also tried to save me from making a disastrous bet on the Iggles in SB XV. I trust it.) -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* Date : Sun, 10 May 2

[RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread Martin Baxter
ject : [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* Date : Sun, 10 May 2009 21:03:28 - From : "sincere1906" To : scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com But this is scifinoir...where we can get into convulted arguments about everything from individuality and consciousness in the Borg to w

[RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread sincere1906
fun > > > > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Justin Mohareb > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:46 AM > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* > > > &g

[scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread Meta
For me it indeed 'felt' like Trek. I guess its a case of YMMV. Meta --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "sincere1906" wrote: > > GW, > > You've hit the proverbial nail on the head. It was a good movie, I enjoyed > much of it, but it didn't *feel* like Trek. And when some people hear my > co

[RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread sincere1906
nt Chocolates: > > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/bamc.html > > > Dare to take The Oath in this fantasy series: > > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath > > > > > > > > > On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Martin Baxt

[RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread Meta
half Of Justin Mohareb > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:46 AM > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* > > > > > > > > > Yeah, but a lot of people have decided that, sight unseen, they're not goi

[scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread sincere1906
GW, You've hit the proverbial nail on the head. It was a good movie, I enjoyed much of it, but it didn't *feel* like Trek. And when some people hear my complaints they think I'm trying to be a "purist" or that I don't like the timeline/alternate reality change. And that's not it at all. I'm not

[RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread Meta
ries: > > http://www.adriannebrennan.com/books.html#the_oath > > > > > > On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Martin Baxter > > wrote: > > That, sir, is a DAMN good point. But then, I return to Abrams' own > > words. > > > > "If you

[scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread sincere1906
ROTFL. Man just the image of Picard in that scene has me laughing. But recall that Picard's Ahab-like obstinance had to be tempered by Alfree Woodard... "You broke your little ships." See the movie, please, if only so I can find a like-minded person who likes Trek's vision and principles to grip

[scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread sincere1906
Daryle, Those are some great points! True indeed, how many times has the timeline been altered already with flagrant offenders like Kirk (old Kirk)? And, one more time, what about those Temporal Authorities that exist in the far future that attempt to assure the timeline remains generally intac

[scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread sincere1906
GW, The Galactica Syndrome... I like that! :) I should state, I really *like* what was done with the new Galactica. That was a true rebooting that borrowed elements of the original and came up with something fresh and new. And I might argue that BSG's changes were appreciated by people like me

RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread Tracey de Morsella
Mother's day wishes -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ravenadal Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 11:00 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* Tracey! I was just thinkin

[RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread ravenadal
; Tracey > > > > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Adrianne Brennan > Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 7:16 AM > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* > > > > >

RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread Tracey de Morsella
separate enjoy and gripe. Griping can be fun From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Justin Mohareb Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2009 8:46 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* Yeah, but a lot

RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread Tracey de Morsella
10, 2009 8:46 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* Yeah, but a lot of people have decided that, sight unseen, they're not going to like this film. I, personally, don't have the time or energy to debate or cajole o

RE: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread Tracey de Morsella
, May 10, 2009 7:16 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* And yet, me and many others who ARE Trek fans--heck, been a Trekkie all of my life--*loved* the movie! ~ "Where love and magic meet" ~ http://www.adriannebrennan.com

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread Daryle Lockhart
_oath On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 7:55 AM, Martin Baxter wrote: That, sir, is a DAMN good point. But then, I return to Abrams' own words. "If you're a Star Trek fan, you won't like this movie." -[ Received Mail Content ]---------- Subject : [scifinoir2]

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread Justin Mohareb
a DAMN good point. But then, I return to Abrams' own words. "If you're a Star Trek fan, you won't like this movie." -[ Received Mail Content ]------ Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* Date : Sun, 10 May 2009 08:36:17

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread Augustus Augustus
Sun, 5/10/09, Martin Baxter wrote: From: Martin Baxter Subject: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, May 10, 2009, 7:55 AM That, sir, is a DAMN good point. But then, I return t

Re: [RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread Adrianne Brennan
; > "If you're a Star Trek fan, you won't like this movie." > > > > > > -[ Received Mail Content ]-- > > Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* > > Date : Sun, 10 May 2009 08:36:17 - > > From : "since

[scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread ravenadal
Great commentary! Pleasure to have you back in our universe, Black Galactus(you should have sent your (black) herald to prepare us for your long awaited uncloaking)! ~rave! --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "sincere1906" wrote: > > Okay it's 4am, I saw the new Trek movie about 8 hours ago an

[scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread marian_changling
Well, I caught two of the ads that you mentioned and I did shake my head. I liked it better when we didn't have ads embedded within our movies but those are the times that we live in. ** spoilers *** It disturbed me that it two genocides to reboot this franchise, but I accepted the changes

[RE][scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread Martin Baxter
That, sir, is a DAMN good point. But then, I return to Abrams' own words. "If you're a Star Trek fan, you won't like this movie." -[ Received Mail Content ]-- Subject : [scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS* Date : Sun, 10 May 2

[scifinoir2] Re: New Trek- My take *SPOILERS*

2009-05-10 Thread sincere1906
Okay. Getting real Trek geek here... SPOILERS! SPOILERS! SPOILSRS! Where are the Temporal Authorities? In a Deep Space 9 episode, we got to see guys from the future who monitor time. I figure they must be able to remain unaltered outside the timeline. Shouldn't some alarm (or however they're