Re: [OSM-talk] Import guidelines review

2012-06-11 Thread Stephen Gower
On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 07:18:04AM -0700, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > > Sorry, where was I? I don't know about you, but I was in mid-Wales. It was very sunny. s ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Map Co-ordinates for towns, etc in UK

2012-02-29 Thread Stephen Gower
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 09:15:34AM +1000, mick wrote: > > That make a lot of sense to me, the church has been the focal point of the > village since Saxon times while the Post Office didn't appear until the 19th? > century. Except there are cases where the village moved and but the church didn't

[OSM-talk] Mobile Oxford

2009-10-15 Thread Stephen Gower
I think the official launch is soon, but Oxford University's new Mobile Oxford website is looking pretty good and makes extensive use of the OSM data we've collected for the city. I think it rocks (and I'm not involved, except for having given a ton of feedback!) The site's at http://m.ox.ac.uk/

Re: [OSM-talk] Cathedral or chapel

2009-06-08 Thread Stephen Gower
On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 03:02:08PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > 2009/6/8 Stephen Gower : > >> > >> The chapel of one of Oxford University's colleges, Christ Church, > >> is also a cathedral.  A rather unimpressive cathedral, but a > >> ca

[OSM-talk] Cathedral or chapel

2009-06-08 Thread Stephen Gower
On Thu, Jun 04, 2009 at 11:12:13AM +0100, Dave Stubbs wrote: > > You could have done church_type=cathedral, church_type=church, and > church_type=chapel (arbitrary tag name choice... probably not a good > one) and let the renderer figure out that for itself. [Digression into an edge-case, probabl

[OSM-talk] Shakespeare on OSM

2009-03-31 Thread Stephen Gower
OK, this needs a wider audience than just those on IRC: 15:49 even Shakespeare is an OSM contributor. look at king henry IV: 15:49 Bardolph: We first survey the plot, then draw the model // And when we see the figure of the house // Add the tags "building=yes, addr:hou

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC :left/:right (asymmetrical roadside features)

2009-02-17 Thread Stephen Gower
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:45:00PM -, Ed Loach wrote: > > Oneway is strange in that as well as yes/no you can have oneway=-1 > for one way in the opposite direction of the way, and I still can't > work out why that is necessary. It used to be the case that the renderers wrote the name of the s

Re: [OSM-talk] Oxbridges of Konigsberg

2009-02-12 Thread Stephen Gower
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 10:47:10AM +, Andrew Chadwick (email lists) wrote: > Stephen Gower wrote: > >> What's the most efficient route for visiting all Oxford's > >> colleges? > > > > So, since the data for Oxford is pretty much there, is this a &

[OSM-talk] Oxbridges of Konigsberg

2009-02-12 Thread Stephen Gower
A friend asks: > What's the most efficient route for visiting all Oxford's > colleges? > > Method of transport: bicycle. No other restrictions except that > you must pass the lodge of each college. Doubling back on > yourself is allowed (despite the title of the post!). So, since the data for Ox

Re: [OSM-talk] name tags on place=country and how they're rendered on lowzoom

2009-01-20 Thread Stephen Gower
On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 02:13:25PM +, Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: > > I think there is a misunderstanding going on here. If I speak English, I > want and English map of the world. If I speak French, I want a French > map of the world. In neither case do I want a map that has England in > Engli

Re: [OSM-talk] Ordnance Survey tries to reinforce its strangleholdover "derived" geographic data in the UK

2008-11-21 Thread Stephen Gower
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 01:58:43PM -, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: > > The problem here is who says it's a public right of way. If you ask your > local authority they will bring out there plans which give the details and > reference numbers but these of course exist on OS mapping.

Re: [OSM-talk] Left and Right - a proposal

2008-10-16 Thread Stephen Gower
On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 08:57:01PM +0100, Gervase Markham wrote: > Stephen Gower wrote: > > I see from later posts that you also suggest using this scheme for cycle/bus > > lanes to indicate which side of the road they should be rendered. > > Did I? I thought it was you -

Re: [OSM-talk] Left and Right - a proposal

2008-10-13 Thread Stephen Gower
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 12:26:49PM +0100, Gervase Markham wrote: > > I propose that it be possible for features to be tagged using a generic > left/right scheme, with left and right being relative to the direction > of the way. > > So you might have a road way with a node somewhere in the middle

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenCycleMap: outreach to local group and council: any HOWTOs or pointers? [Oxford and general content]

2008-09-30 Thread Stephen Gower
On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 02:45:27PM +0100, Andrew Chadwick (email lists) wrote: > Out of the blue, I've been asked to advise Cyclox, a local cyclists' > advocacy group about improving [upon] the Oxfordshire County Council's > cycle map for the city of Oxford[1], and I've said I'll help out. That's

Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-GB] FW: BBC 'Britain From Above'

2008-08-08 Thread Stephen Gower
On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 12:13:00PM +0100, Paul Jaggard wrote: > Interesting clip from the BBC: > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7539529.stm > > It's a plug for a programme, 'Britain From Above', which starts 10th August, > but the trailer alone is worth watching for some lovely GPS-derived

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging trailblazes / marked paths

2008-08-06 Thread Stephen Gower
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 06:33:10PM -0500, Alex Mauer wrote: > > So it really depends on interpretation. In particular, footways have a > particular legal status in the UK which doesn't apply to every place > that you can walk. Just as a point of information, this isn't actually true. As far as I

[OSM-talk] (Proposed UK) National Cycle Map standard

2008-08-05 Thread Stephen Gower
I'm not quite sure who is considering this, but http://www.cyclecheltenham.org.uk/map_standard.html claims to be "being considered as the basis for a national standard." The actual map looks pretty good for an end-user and exactly the sort of thing I want to see. However, I can see that trying t

Re: [OSM-talk] Australia has Google Street View!

2008-08-05 Thread Stephen Gower
On Tue, Aug 05, 2008 at 10:36:14AM +0200, Erik Johansson wrote: > On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 9:40 AM, Stefan Holst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 11:58 +1000, Joseph Gentle wrote: > >> > >> Good for filling in all the missing street names. > > Interesting question. Are we allowed

Re: [OSM-talk] mapping grass

2008-08-01 Thread Stephen Gower
On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 02:37:19PM +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > Hi, > > I have been facing problems mapping grass. The only mention of grass > in map features is village_green. My Josm also shows landuse=grass, > but this is not on the map features page. [...] > I feel all these can be br

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM maps in 3D

2008-07-18 Thread Stephen Gower
On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 09:19:02PM +0200, Igor Brejc wrote: > > I've started playing around using DirectX in combination with SRTM data > to draw 3D relief OSM maps. The plan is to add this feature to Kosmos. > Please visit http://igorbrejc.net/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-in-3d if > you want to

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag:highway=cycleway inconsistency

2008-07-03 Thread Stephen Gower
On Thu, Jul 03, 2008 at 03:53:40PM +0100, Andy Allan wrote: > > ... but to be honest, I'm not entirely comfortable with it, and I > still think the lane/lane_opposite doesn't handle things fully either. > I found a bit in Hyde Park where there was a one-way road with cycle > lanes on both sides -

Re: [OSM-talk] Enabling communities to use OSM as a planning tool

2008-06-04 Thread Stephen Gower
On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 08:54:53AM +0100, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: > > This brings me to the point though. Currently we map physical features as > they exist and in some cases the alignment of known construction, what we do > not do is use OSM as a planning tool. What are people's

[OSM-talk] Non-nesting administrative borders (Was: National borders in the British Islands)

2008-06-03 Thread Stephen Gower
On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 11:42:22AM +0200, Martijn van Oosterhout wrote: > On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:20 PM, Lester Caine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The 'nesting' rule does not exist. We have already had enough examples of > > where boundaries form different 'sets' of areas so there is no way to

Re: [OSM-talk] area topology

2008-05-13 Thread Stephen Gower
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 02:31:32PM +0100, Andrew Chadwick (email lists) wrote: > > I subscribe to the view that areas should correspond to the real area on > the ground and mostly be kept clear of roadways. Placing an Area's Nodes > near the adjacent Way's nodes helps make the map easier to mainta

[OSM-talk] Overhaul of voting process (was: Road crossings proposal - status?)

2008-05-07 Thread Stephen Gower
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 11:01:33AM +0200, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > > * Some people started tagging *and rendering* crossings, using a > > particular tagging scheme. > > * Some other people, who weren't actually out doing the work, started > > complaining about what was going on [1] > > May

Re: [OSM-talk] Wide tracks with cycle access

2008-05-01 Thread Stephen Gower
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 08:39:15PM +0100, 80n wrote: > > bicycle=yes and surface=gravel are an incompatible combination in my book ;) There's gravel and there's gravel though - pea gravel like my grandfather had on his drive (in the New Forest!) and had to rake after cars had been over it i

Re: [OSM-talk] Voting

2008-04-09 Thread Stephen Gower
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 12:31:02AM +0100, Bruce Cowan wrote: > On Mon, 2008-04-07 at 14:57 +0300, SteveC wrote: > > Like, er, electing President Bush, or Prime Minister Gordon Brown (no > > election) ? > > I'm a pedant [...] Oh, if we're being pedantic, I'd like to point out that the British

[OSM-talk] "A List Apart" does "Why Mashups Suck"

2008-04-09 Thread Stephen Gower
"A List Apart" does "Why Mashups Suck" and briefly mentions OSM: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/takecontrolofyourmaps s ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Relations not always brilliant

2008-04-07 Thread Stephen Gower
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 11:46:10AM +0100, Steve Hill wrote: > > In this example, as far as I can tell we have 2 roads called the A11 and > a road joining them called the A14 - route planners can deal with this > just the same as they can deal with A11 -> A14 -> A134. > > Route planners shouldn'

Re: [OSM-talk] linz dataset for nz - attribution methods summary

2008-04-07 Thread Stephen Gower
On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 08:48:18PM +1200, Robin Paulson wrote: > > if we are going to have an 'attribution' page on the wiki[1], with the > fine print regarding sources of various chunks of data, would a link > to it be possible, on the main map page? titled say 'data attribution' > or 'data sourc

[OSM-talk] xkcd does GPS

2008-04-07 Thread Stephen Gower
A cartoon on satnav: http://xkcd.com/407/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF announcement: Copyright Easter Eggs

2008-04-01 Thread Stephen Gower
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 08:53:49AM +0100, SteveC wrote: > http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=287 I see this has been referenced with a useful Editors Note at http://industry.slashgeo.org/industry/08/04/01/1059213.shtml s ___ talk mailing list talk@o

Re: [OSM-talk] Survey: Bad Map Rendering

2008-03-22 Thread Stephen Gower
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 12:23:57PM +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > I suggested to look into the rendering topic: Where are our current > problems in rendering For me it's the routemap problem - how to represent multiple routes sharing the same street/line/etc, for example bus routes, named or

Re: [OSM-talk] import of dataset for new zealand

2008-03-19 Thread Stephen Gower
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 10:44:00AM +0100, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > We don't manage other people's data on their behalf. We assimilate it > into the collective, and it thereby becomes everybody's data. We > modify it, delete it, replace it, change all of its properties and > tags as we see fi

Re: [OSM-talk] Map_Features not loading

2008-03-11 Thread Stephen Gower
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 12:54:53PM +0100, Pieren Pieren wrote: > > FULL ACK - the current page is a PITA! > > > +1 > I restored the single page. -1 The full page has got way too long to actually be useful. In my opinion, it should include the main options for highways, perhaps the top

Re: [OSM-talk] [tagging] Voting - skyhook

2008-03-07 Thread Stephen Gower
On Fri, Mar 07, 2008 at 02:28:20AM +0100, Ulf Lamping wrote: > > I'm still not sure if this proposal was actually *intended* to > discourage anyone spending his time to work on the current mess of > proposals and to improve the map features page - or if it only was a bad > joke with an unwanted

[OSM-talk] [tagging] Voting - skyhook

2008-03-06 Thread Stephen Gower
Voting is now open on the Skyhook proposal - please add your support: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Skyhook s ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] [tagging] RFC - skyhook

2008-02-19 Thread Stephen Gower
I don't think there was a formal announcement here when the proposal http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Proposed_features/Skyhook was made. Please comment on this proposal which will be opened for voting two weeks from now, if appropriate. Best wishes s

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Progressing OSM to a new data Licence regime

2008-02-07 Thread Stephen Gower
On Tue, Feb 05, 2008 at 12:04:58AM +, Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: > > The idea that > someone in around 100 years time will still have to struggle with the > license issues we are setting up now on my data really worries me With your

Re: [OSM-talk] Place of worship: wayside crosses

2008-02-07 Thread Stephen Gower
On Thu, Feb 07, 2008 at 08:18:34PM +0100, Christoph Eckert wrote: > > I bet you'll find them in other catholic regions as well. > BTW: you'll even find wayside_shrines in Greece, which isn't that > catholic :) . Oh, but it is. (second point of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic )

Re: [OSM-talk] "Crudely-drawn pint glasses"

2008-01-31 Thread Stephen Gower
On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 10:09:00PM +, Gervase Markham wrote: > > You feel like you're looking at the map with double > vision. After drinking from a Crudely-drawn pint glass? s ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org h

Re: [OSM-talk] Copyright and old maps

2008-01-26 Thread Stephen Gower
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 08:51:35PM +0100, Mike Collinson wrote: > > Unless someone corrects me: No, as it is (I assume) an original map > and not a facsimile made by them. Just as a reference, all maps made available at Oxford's Central Library are facsimiles of the original collection and th

[OSM-talk] Units convention (Was: Mapping canals)

2008-01-24 Thread Stephen Gower
CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE, GUYS! On Thu, Jan 24, 2008 at 04:08:21PM +0100, Michael Collinson wrote: > > maxheight= 3 ft - original-easy-to enter "folksomomic" key (defaults > either to metric or local usage, there are arguments for both) > > maxheight:metric = 0.912 - added either by power us

Re: [OSM-talk] travel-time-maps

2008-01-24 Thread Stephen Gower
On Thu, Jan 17, 2008 at 01:32:47PM -0800, Tom Carden wrote: > > > > This is something I know a little bit about. I've CC'd the > > mysociety-maps list too so they know that other people are still > > thinking about this. A recent post on that list... > > Happily I can inform you that this work

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping canals

2008-01-22 Thread Stephen Gower
On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 11:43:25AM +, Richard Fairhurst wrote: > > Amenities > > - > > New tag value: amenity=sanitary_station > > Sanitary station is a really misleading (but sadly widespread) term. > Better to group all the constituent services > (amenity=pumpout;water_point), an

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping canals

2008-01-22 Thread Stephen Gower
Hi Gerv - I've snipped lots below - if I haven't commented on any part, I pretty much agree. On Mon, Jan 21, 2008 at 06:36:48PM +, Gervase Markham wrote: > > Narrow sections are denoted by maxwidth. One narrowboat (just over 7 > feet) is given as 2.5m. Two boats is 5m. It's not necessary

Re: [OSM-talk] Render icons for parking areas

2008-01-19 Thread Stephen Gower
On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 09:14:09AM +0100, Knut Arne Bjørndal wrote: > > I've now implemented an algorithm for finding a good center-point for > areas. It's already commited to svn as revision 6390. That's great - I think most people would prefer not to have rendering instructions (such as a

Re: [OSM-talk] I've removed historic=icon from map features

2008-01-14 Thread Stephen Gower
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 07:58:20PM +1300, Robin Paulson wrote: > > i'll second that, but unless bildstock is an english word, we > shouldn't use it - current protocol is british english words only. > > Marc, does this have a direct english equivalent? is icon correct, or > does that relate to som

Re: [OSM-talk] administrative boundaries and is_in

2008-01-10 Thread Stephen Gower
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 10:11:35PM +1300, Robin Paulson wrote: > > the boundary data should be relatively easy to come by Not where it isn't marked on the ground, and is only defined by reference to the Copyrighted national mapping. The is the case in many places in the UK. s ___