Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging bike ramp/ bike path down steps

FYI, here's the schema I personally use in Sweden, where heavy use is made of ramped staircases, though not thankfully on major cycle routes. My objective is to allow routers to intelligently route for both sport/club/large group riding and happy meandering or commute: bicycle=yes only on very

Re: [Talk-GB] Paths on Wimbledon Common

Perhaps there should be a access/foot=open_access tag? Paths across open access areas aren't really "permissive". First, you usually have some rights to wander off the path/make your own. Second, there is (always?) some sort of regulatory/public right involved, it isn't just dependent on the l

Re: [Talk-GB] The curious case of USRN 20602512

On 2020-07-11 07:47, Steve Doerr wrote: On 10/07/2020 11:27, Mark Goodge wrote: So, it seems that Fairfield [Road] isn't known to either OS or Google. It is shown (in abbreviated form) on streetmap.co.uk, but at that zoom level, in London, that's based on the Bartholomew A-Z maps rather than

Re: [Talk-GB] UPRN & USRN Tagging

Which makes it difficult to know or guess what the a tag relates to without research, especially if used wrongly or without consultation.  Tags should be self-descriptive to the extent possible. Sorry, parochialism just gets up my nose! :-) Definite thumbs up up to using an ISO country cod

Re: [Talk-GB] Amazon Logistics edits

If I trace a track or service road in England from aerial imagery, I always add access=unknown to explicitly flag the uncertainty until it is visited by me or someone else. The only exception is when it is very, very clearly a terminus track going directly into a residence or farm. Mike On 20

Re: [Talk-GB] max_age=toddler? | Re: Playground age limits

My thoughts also. The description tag is very underused , IMHO. Specialist tags are undoubtedly extremely useful, they are precise, (should be) unambiguous and machine-read-friendly, but they do need to gain traction to be useful and are unfriendly when trying to convey fuzzy information, as

Re: [Talk-GB] sidewalks

On 2019-06-01 13:26, Andy Townsend wrote: On 01/06/2019 11:11, Jez Nicholson wrote: Brighton has also just gained a sidewalk https://overpass-turbo.eu/s/JAn which i'm not overly impressed withor am I being a Luddite? I personally wouldn't map sidewalks in a dense UK city like that (tho

Re: [Talk-GB] sidewalks

I too was very anti at first. Reykavik was the first time I saw it on a systematic basis, and I thought it made a map I did aesthetically dreadful. But a small tweak, rendering sidewalk-tagged footways as a very unobtrusive narrow line fixed that. I now map them zealously for three reasons: 1

[Talk-GB] How would tag or name this wall crossing?

What do you call the type of wall crossing the that consists of two stone pillars placed close to each other (usually in a drystone wall) to leave a gap wide enough for humans and sheep dogs to squeeze through but not cattle or fully-grown sheep? Has anyone one got a barrier= tag for them?  Jus

Re: [Talk-GB] Network tag on railway stations

Lester's comments look logical from a general perspective: 1 network (National Rail), 1+ operators (Merseyrail, Northern, ...). I'd expand a bit by saying the it IS possible to have both multiple networks and operators at the same transport point (rail/bus station/platform). I have local Swedis

Re: [Talk-GB] UK Quarterly Project: Post Offices

At the risk of being pedantic, but would a "network" tag, similar to bus routes, not be more appropriate? Here in Sweden, the post office system is now Post Nord, network=Post Nord, but post offices are frequently inside and operated by supermarkets, e.g. operator=ICA. These outlets often hand

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData now OGL

This is really good news and thank you Rob for flagging it. Thanks also to the unknown folks at OS who have been working on this ... it follows through on a promise made to me in 2010 that they would look at. As cautioned by Rob, do wait until http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/business-and-gove

[Talk-GB] Animated map of the development of London

Not OpenStreetMap, but even as a Yorkshireman devoid of sentiment for those areas down south I found this interesting to watch: http://www.theguardian.com/cities/2014/may/15/the-evolution-of-london-the-citys-near-2000-year-history-mapped Mike ___ Tal

Re: [Talk-GB] OSM Analysis updated with May 2014 OS Locator data

On 15/05/2014 09:27, Steven Horner wrote: Personally I like Marc's suggestion of using the 2 street names separated by a hyphen. This allows both names to be rendered. Then identifying each street with left and right tags. How do you chose which is which if the road runs East to West? I'm a

[Talk-GB] Animated map of the development of London

Not OpenStreetMap, but even as a Yorkshireman I found this interesting to watch: http://www.theguardian.com/cities/2014/may/15/the-evolution-of-london-the-citys-near-2000-year-history-mapped Mike ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org htt

[Talk-GB] Moderator Comments - Was Re: UK Food Hygiene Rating System

OK guys, time to end this thread. Not sure if I am an official moderator on this particular list, but wading in. We Brits are supposed to be ladies and gentlemen every one, so let's act like that on our own list. May I ask all concerned to take a read through https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w

Re: [Talk-GB] Geological Data

It is an area that interests me too, explicitly surface expression of geology, (outcrops and faults mostly) and geomorphology ("interesting" drumlins, meander loops, landslips, ...). My personal conclusion is that by all means do low-key experimentation but that any systematic mapping is bette

Re: [Talk-GB] Editor backbground layers in iD

On 28/10/2013 19:28, SomeoneElse wrote: series, Mapbox Satellite or Mapquest Open Aerial, and if anyone's using NPE, Bartholomew 1/2 inch or OS 1 inch as backgrounds they probably shouldn't be using iD to do it (if for no other reason due to alignment issues). Am I maligning these sources and

Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging Banquetting Halls (neither hotels, not community centres)

On 23/08/2013 12:07, OpenStreetmap HADW wrote: On 22 August 2013 10:03, Lester Caine wrote: website=xxx - which will give the details (if we could access them from the map) I'm not sure if I can quote the website in this case as Google may have a database copyright on it. I generally only qu

Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping Archaeology

Hi Brian, Open Historical Map has a sporadically active mailing list http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo "historic" which your mate might like to join to get a feel for what is going on. It is very early stage stuff though. I map surface expression of historic mining activity in the nort

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData Licence update (WAS: Finding Unmapped public rights of way)

dataset published under the OS OpenData License by other organisations, such as English Heritage, (or by OS if any). Mike On 30/07/2013 15:58, Michael Collinson wrote: On 30/07/2013 11:49, o...@k3v.eu wrote: Robert, On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:57:13 +0100, "Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)&qu

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData Licence update (WAS: Finding Unmapped public rights of way)

On 30/07/2013 11:49, o...@k3v.eu wrote: Robert, On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 08:57:13 +0100, "Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)" wrote: ... OSM takes a conservative line on copyright and licensing issues... I agree with Rob 100% on this, it is pretty obvious that the Government intends for this data to be

Re: [Talk-GB] Byway between Muston and Belvoir (was "Guidance for adding PRoW to OSM")

In Yorkshire, I have been using place=valley placed roughly half way along. Mike On 1 Jan 2013, at 03:02, Graham Jones wrote: > Fair point - I'm not really sure what I would tag it as though! > > Frosterley and Stanhope are fairly major places with pubs - not sure about > wifi though. > > Gr

Re: [Talk-GB] Yorkshire Dales or Forest of Bowland - unmapped areas?

Well, the scenery around Malham and upper Wharfedale, Nidderdale, Swaledale is simply the best in the world ... Though I do admit to a slight bias. The beer int half bad neether. I have very extensively mapped and cross-referenced Wharfedale+ paths and tracks from Npe, os25k and Bing but the a

Re: [Talk-GB] JOSM Imagery

On 30/10/2012 22:33, Dudley Ibbett wrote: Hi My version of JOSM seems to have just updated on my Fedora system and I now have NLS OS 1:25k 1st Series 1937-61 imagery. I am probably behind the times but presumably this can be used for mapping. If someone could confirm its use this would be a

Re: [Talk-GB] SotM 2013

2 to 4 ground team and 1 must live or be frequently in the venue area itself, from my experience of helping 3 sotm. 4 would be the optimum, I'd say. That assumes another 2 or 3+ active folks as part of the sotm team but living anywhere in the world, hello Holland. At Limerick, we had 2 folks i

Re: [Talk-GB] UK redacted

On 17/07/2012 09:40, Richard Fairhurst wrote: London's finally complete: http://harrywood.dev.openstreetmap.org/license-change/botprocessing.php Great! Thanks to all concerned. Today London, tomorrow the World. There, someone had to say it. Mike _

Re: [Talk-GB] Remapping update

On 23/03/2012 13:58, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Incidentally, is just "knowing the footpaths" evidence enough to tag with "odbl=clean"? Or is there the risk that the footpath was created with "iffy" sources? I ask as I am intending to do some remapping of Andy Street's paths in the Bishops Waltham

Re: [Talk-GB] Remapping ways without nodes

On 25/03/2012 11:40, Nick Whitelegg wrote: On 23 March 2012 12:58, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Incidentally, is just "knowing the footpaths" evidence enough to tag with "odbl=clean"? Or is there the risk that the footpath was created with "iffy" sources? While we're on this topic, could I urge all

Re: [Talk-GB] Remapping update

On 19/03/2012 13:40, John Sturdy wrote: I started to work on Hampshire, but got the following request from a decliner: I was wondering if you would mind refraining from 're-mapping' my contributions for the time being? I'm still in discussions with the OSMF regarding re-licensing some of

Re: [Talk-GB] Remapping update

I've been invading Lancashire from Yorkshire and have got as far as Rochdale. I concur with Brian's methodology. My theory is that, at this point, concentrated holes in the centre of towns and cities are not a bad thing, they may encourage new or less active mappers to go out and map their to

[Talk-GB] License remapping - Just deleting

Hi, I got an email from a respected contributor and I want to pass on one concern. It is very natural to want all the red ink on OSMI License View disappear as quickly as possible so that we don't have to revisit the spots. I suggest though that where there are things that you can't remap usi

[Talk-GB] License changeover - Important West Country update

Contributor Guy has now accepted the new contributor terms and OSMI License View is already showing the new picture [1]. I would like to acknowledge that he felt very reluctant to do so so, being happier with CC-BY-SA or perhaps dual-licensing under CC-BY-SA, but has done so for the good of th

Re: [Talk-GB] International mailing list for OSM France

On 13/01/2012 17:30, Emilie Laffray wrote: Hello, as part of a new initiative from the French OSM association, we have created a point of contact so other communities can contact the French community. I think it is important to have different point of contacts between the different countries

Re: [Talk-GB] Please do not use Code-Point Open, (postcode) data in OSM

On 12/01/2012 13:41, Andrew wrote: Michael Collinson writes: I regretfully have to relay that while the Ordnance Survey "has no objections to geodata derived in part from OS OpenData being released under the Open Database License 1.0", this has to permanently exclude Code-

Re: [Talk-GB] Please do not use Code-Point Open, (postcode) data in OSM

On 11/01/2012 17:39, Ed Avis wrote: Michael Collinson writes: I regretfully have to relay that while the Ordnance Survey "has no objections to geodata derived in part from OS OpenData being released under the Open Database License 1.0", this has to permanently exclude Code-

[Talk-GB] Please do not use Code-Point Open, (postcode) data in OSM

I regretfully have to relay that while the Ordnance Survey "has no objections to geodata derived in part from OS OpenData being released under the Open Database License 1.0", this has to permanently exclude Code-Point Open, (postcode) data. This was an open issue previously. If anyone wants to

Re: [Talk-GB] GB License Change Readiness

On 10/01/2012 19:34, Jason Cunningham wrote: Can anyone provide more detailed info on the final stance of the of the top decliners? Looking at one of the websites, some are Guy, Ed Avis, Andy Street, Simon Ward, Paul Martin and ulfl. I'd given a bit of though to mapping some of the areas that

Re: [Talk-GB] GB License Change Readiness

Back to the original thread, good news. Three of the top UK undecided contributors have responded to my messages and kindly accepted the new terms. York, South Wales and High Wycombe looking much better now. Mike ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@ope

Re: [Talk-GB] License change & anonymous edits

On 10/01/2012 15:13, Peter Miller wrote: On 10 January 2012 13:53, David Earl <mailto:da...@frankieandshadow.com>> wrote: On 10/01/2012 13:46, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Michael Collinson wrote: +1 to Richard's suggestion odbl=clean Just

Re: [Talk-GB] License change & anonymous edits

On 10/01/2012 13:43, Peter Miller wrote: On 10 January 2012 12:07, David Earl > wrote: On 10/01/2012 11:44, Peter Miller wrote: Is there no way in this case to formally 'claim' the IPR for this features on the basis that we have moved th

Re: [Talk-GB] GB License Change Readiness

of use (linked from the OSM Inspector licence change view) http://osm.mapki.com/history/ Steve -Original Message- From: Andy [mailto:andy...@gmail.com] Sent: 09 January 2012 17:47 To: Michael Collinson Cc: OSM talk-gb Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] GB License Change Readiness Does anyone know of a

Re: [Talk-GB] GB License Change Readiness

On 08/01/2012 23:44, Andy wrote: I'm concerned about some of the big relations we have. For example, National Cycle Network Route 8 (relation 34269). This relation has at least one user who has declined the CT [1], unfortunately this user's edit is buried deep in the history of this object. Recre

Re: [Talk-GB] GB License Change Readiness

t...@acrewoods.net>> wrote: On 8 January 2012 13:49, Michael Collinson <mailto:m...@ayeltd.biz>> wrote: > > I strongly recommend that fi... Just a quick note to say I've had a few successes with this, it doesn't take long and saved me lots of trips to remap little

Re: [Talk-GB] GB License Change Readiness

On 08/01/2012 16:05, Lester Caine wrote: Michael Collinson wrote: In the UK, the situation is slightly less rosy, with 96% of nodes and 94% of highways coming from folks who have accepted the new terms. Is there a mechanism for listing users with the greatest number of 'problem

[Talk-GB] GB License Change Readiness

its definitely a crowd sourcing project. Regards, Mike Michael Collinson LWG [1] Based on node count, http://odbl.poole.ch/ [2] "Nodes Created" http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/munin.html [3] http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=wtfe&lon=-4.21344&lat=54.58575&zoom=6&

Re: [Talk-GB] Anyone interested in participating in a distributed Freemap?

Hi Nick, Not exactly the answer that you wanted, but I would be very interested if you develop this. I think it very worthwhile generally to have a reference system where someone can serve specialist or just alternative tiles for a specific bounding box, (country, city, whatever) and then tra

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData and ODbL OK

On 27/10/2011 11:47, Gervase Markham wrote: On 04/07/11 13:53, Michael Collinson wrote: At the moment, this excludes Code-Point Open, (postcode) data since they are awaiting a response from Royal Mail who have rights in that dataset. I just dropped in to find out why I still can&#

Re: [Talk-GB] How to tag Police Memorial Trust (and similar) memorials

On 24/10/2011 14:43, John Sturdy wrote: On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: I recently mapped a couple of Police Memorial Trust memorials, for example: http://www.policememorial.org.uk/Police_Memorial_Trust/PMT_Local_Memorials/PMT-Swindells-2004/PMT-Swindells-2004.htm

Re: [Talk-GB] 1:25,000 OOC OS maps - Update

Just catching up so a late posting. Thanks to Andy and Mike for this. Even with Bing imagery and OS OpenData, the 1:25k series are a great source of local names in rural areas and of historic features, (archeological sites, tumuli, stone rings, battle fields, roman roads, old mining sites and m

Re: [Talk-GB] Trans Pennine Trail

Hi Chris, Thanks for this posting. I just personally discovered the TPT in September and hope to ride some more at Christmas as it passes not too far from the Centre of the Known and Unknown Universe [1]. I am not familiar with NCN 62 but agree with you that we treat the TPT and NCN routes

Re: [Talk-GB] Copyright issues of checking details on other websites

On 04/07/2011 12:48, Donald Noble wrote: Sorry if this has been covered before, but I was just wondering what the copyright position is with checking details of, say a church or a shop, on their website and then adding those details to OSM? I would have thought that this was fair use of the info

[Talk-GB] OS OpenData and ODbL OK

ause. If permitted, I will make some of the correspondence public so that you can see the exact question asked and the response. I would like to thank the Ordnance Survey for their kind consideration and the speed in which they were able to give a response. Regards, Michael Collinson License Wor

Re: [Talk-GB] OS OpenData and accepting the new contributor terms

On 17/06/2011 14:50, Robert Whittaker (OSM) wrote: On 16 June 2011 17:50, Michael Collinson wrote: Here is as much information as I can give. It is not conclusive so I would summarise by saying that I *personally* (great emphasis!) have some contributions derived from OS StreetView data

[Talk-GB] OS OpenData and accepting the new contributor terms

Here is as much information as I can give. It is not conclusive so I would summarise by saying that I *personally* (great emphasis!) have some contributions derived from OS StreetView data and have accepted the new terms without qualms. I explain my reasons below and what I intend to do. I hope

Re: [Talk-GB] Incorrect use of OS VectorMap District when mapping?

Jason, Yes, I'll try to do this over the weekend. Give me an off-line poke if I forget. Mike At 14:45 09/03/2011, Jason Cunningham wrote: Hi Mike, Can you provide us with a grid ref(s) for a location where the OS data is wrong Jason On 9 March 2011 13:33, Michael Collinson <&

Re: [Talk-GB] Incorrect use of OS VectorMap District when mapping?

At 13:29 09/03/2011, Chris Hill wrote: On 09/03/11 11:57, Michael Collinson wrote: At 12:32 10/02/2011, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Henry Gomersall [mailto:h...@cantab.net] wrote: >Sent: 10 February 2011 11:07 AM >To: Peter Miller >Cc: Talk GB >Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] I

Re: [Talk-GB] Incorrect use of OS VectorMap District when mapping?

At 12:32 10/02/2011, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: Henry Gomersall [mailto:h...@cantab.net] wrote: >Sent: 10 February 2011 11:07 AM >To: Peter Miller >Cc: Talk GB >Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Incorrect use of OS VectorMap District when mapping? > >On Thu, 2011-02-10 at 10:30 +, Peter Mil

Re: [Talk-GB] Cameras?

My specs were about the same as yours though I had to drop the Optical viewfinder - they are now rare at the lower end. For brand new cameras, I came up with lower cameras in the Canon range (IXUS range and/or A450 or some such purely from memory) and in the Nikon LX range. Sony Cybershots are

Re: [Talk-GB] Rendering problem (Osmarender layer)

At 01:34 PM 9/3/2008, Nicholas Barnes wrote: ... >but leading on from this, I have a question for everybody > >I found somewhere a reference which said that roundabouts should have >the same road type as the most major road at the junction and not as the >other feeder roads. > >Unfortunately,

Re: [Talk-GB] Cycling between capitals

At 04:20 PM 5/17/2008, OJ W wrote: >Would it be worth including the cycle map as a layer on the front-page map? +1 if Andy Armstrong is amenable. It puts OSM into an area where there is just no competition at all. And it is applicable outside the UK. Mike ___

Re: [Talk-GB] UK administrative subdivisions

At 04:41 PM 12/3/2007, Mark Williams wrote: >A set of county_or_other_area.poly files might be handy, also this might >be useful to work on to define the boundaries in the map, as these are >very awkward to map otherwise. And slightly at a tangent, might not these be useful for systematically pr

Re: [Talk-GB] mapping tunnels

At 12:19 AM 9/28/2007, Thom Shannon wrote: >Does anyone have any suggestions how to map a long tunnel? I know how to >tag the ways, the issue is where does the tunnel go. You can't exactly >get a GPS trace! I want to map the tunnels under the Mersey. The >queensway tunnel has 3 exits, all at slight

Re: [Talk-GB] [Fwd: Re: Speed limits]

At 11:13 AM 9/21/2007, Dave Stubbs wrote: I'm definitely against this idea! For the record, I have no great urge to go metric ourselves; I just want things to work, and perceive a point of failure in this. I realise that programmers can easily add a comversion routine - but why cause the proble

Re: [Talk-GB] Conflicting tagging of london undergound stations

At 04:40 PM 9/19/2007, Nick Black wrote: >My thinking here is that k='line' is generic/international and can >equally be applied to other rail networks. How does this sound? Yes, 'line' would work well internationally for both subway and regular railway systems. Japanese, for example, translat