Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-02-02 Thread Liam Wilson
Well obviously Youtube, metacafe, dailymotion are some good places to start. On 1 February 2010 23:38, Craig Peden wrote: > Right, I think that someone needs to get down a list of places we can > upload to. > > On 1 Feb 2010, at 21:53, Steve wrote: > > > On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 21:41:01 -, Li

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-02-01 Thread Craig Peden
Right, I think that someone needs to get down a list of places we can upload to. On 1 Feb 2010, at 21:53, Steve wrote: > On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 21:41:01 -, Liam Wilson > > wrote: > >> Indeed, that's what I think, the only cost would be putting the >> advert(s) >> together. >> >> Who actually w

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-02-01 Thread Steve
On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 21:41:01 -, Liam Wilson wrote: > Indeed, that's what I think, the only cost would be putting the advert(s) > together. > > Who actually wants to make this happen? > Me -- Steve -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://w

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-02-01 Thread Liam Wilson
Indeed, that's what I think, the only cost would be putting the advert(s) together. Who actually wants to make this happen? On 1 February 2010 17:09, Craig Peden wrote: > If you could get the ad posted on all major video uploading sites, and > other media sharing sites as well as blogs and such

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-02-01 Thread Craig Peden
If you could get the ad posted on all major video uploading sites, and other media sharing sites as well as blogs and such. You could easily have yourself a relatively cheap ad campaign. On 1 Feb 2010, at 12:22, Liam Wilson wrote: > Okay, I've been in touch with the marketing team, and they've

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-02-01 Thread Robert McWilliam
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 12:35:42AM +, Alan Pope wrote: > I personally don't believe there is a need for a TV advert at all > right now. I'd rather start from the opposite end and ask what the > need of a TV advert is. What goal is to be achieved by putting Ubuntu > on the telly? I don't think

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-02-01 Thread Liam Wilson
Well, say instead of a TV advert, we contributed our ideas to the Viral Video's project or something similar to make a channel on youtube, or even both, if we're lucky, we could touch on subjects such as Ubuntu hour, and ways to help improve your first time experience with Ubuntu. And I guess we c

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-02-01 Thread javadayaz
Slightly off topic, but why not a guerilla marketting campaign On 1 February 2010 12:38, etali wrote: > > - Original Message - > From: "Johnathon Tinsley" > > > Before we try to get new users into Ubuntu, shouldn't we try to retain > > the people flicking in and out of Ubuntu now? >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-02-01 Thread etali
- Original Message - From: "Johnathon Tinsley" > Before we try to get new users into Ubuntu, shouldn't we try to retain > the people flicking in and out of Ubuntu now? > > There was discussion about supporting new users, with remote techy > support. Can we catch those who post "This is

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-02-01 Thread Rob Beard
Quoting Liam Wilson : > Okay, I've been in touch with the marketing team, and they've said that if > we wanted to do this, we'd have to look at the costs of producing and > marketing the advert, were there to be one. It was also suggested that we > should consider not using ITV as the main medium

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-02-01 Thread Johnathon Tinsley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Before we try to get new users into Ubuntu, shouldn't we try to retain the people flicking in and out of Ubuntu now? There was discussion about supporting new users, with remote techy support. Can we catch those who post "This is too hard, I'm going b

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-02-01 Thread Liam Wilson
Okay, I've been in touch with the marketing team, and they've said that if we wanted to do this, we'd have to look at the costs of producing and marketing the advert, were there to be one. It was also suggested that we should consider not using ITV as the main medium for promoting, but instead use

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-02-01 Thread Darren.Mansell
On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 23:32 +, Alan Pope wrote: > On 31 January 2010 23:13, Liam Wilson wrote: > > IF we are going to make this video, ideally, it would be better to thin= k > > about actual content first. >=20 > I disagree. The very first thing is to look at what the goal is. Only > once you

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
In fact, if we still wanted to, I'm pretty sure we could make an advert, and then just put it on youtube, sort of like what microsoft have done, with little 'shorts' to promote Win7. On 1 February 2010 01:20, Liam Wilson wrote: > I guess there are a lot more projects (Probably some similar to th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
I guess there are a lot more projects (Probably some similar to this idea) that could do with work/help rather than creating one at the possibility of it not coming into fruition, as raising enough money and getting the advert done correctly would be a pretty big problem in itself, I guess. Suppos

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Bruno Girin
On Sun, 2010-01-31 at 23:13 +, Liam Wilson wrote: > Hey everyone; > > IF we are going to make this video, ideally, it would be better to > think about actual content first. I think the best plan of action to > get this going is to think about what we want in the first 30-60 > seconds. Note th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Alan Pope
On 31 January 2010 23:46, Liam Wilson wrote: > Yeah, looking at the perspective you've put it at Alan, I guess you're > right. > I'm just a guy with an opinion. > You mentioned spending the time/money on other things, but what like? Whatever takes your fancy, the project has lots of ways for pe

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Ged Byrom
Why not have a competition for an advert for ubuntu, like the one for linux a while ago ? It will cost little or nothing and practice makes perfect for the future. Or two competitions, video for tv and text for newspapers ? Just a thought Ged. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com ht

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
Yeah, looking at the perspective you've put it at Alan, I guess you're right. You mentioned spending the time/money on other things, but what like? And If we WERE to create a TV adverrt for Ubuntu, no doubt there is interest in doing so, do you think it's a bit ambitious trying to aim for the rele

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Alan Pope
On 31 January 2010 23:13, Liam Wilson wrote: > IF we are going to make this video, ideally, it would be better to think > about actual content first. I disagree. The very first thing is to look at what the goal is. Only once you know the goal, target audience, approach, method of delivery and so

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert - media?

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
Oh wow. Just goes to show that something like this may still be possible. Alan, are you interested in creating this advert, for serious? If you are, I'll make you a collaborator to the google sites page I set up for the project (the page is bare as-is). http://sites.google.com/site/ubuntutvadvertp

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert - media?

2010-01-31 Thread alan c
Steve wrote: > A new thread to discus a possible TV advert Just a thought - this Firefox ad in New York Times http://news.zdnet.co.uk/internet/0,100097,39181362,00.htm -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ub

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
Hey everyone; IF we are going to make this video, ideally, it would be better to think about actual content first. I think the best plan of action to get this going is to think about what we want in the first 30-60 seconds. This way, we have a general idea of where the video is headed in terms of

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
Oh right. Silly me! xD Liam On 31 January 2010 21:44, Steve wrote: > On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:33:05 -, Liam Wilson > wrote: > > > Cheers steve, if you're going to re-size them, the'yd ideally be around > > the > > 864x514 px size, as that's a reasonable size for them to be printed on > > A4.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Steve
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:33:05 -, Liam Wilson wrote: > Cheers steve, if you're going to re-size them, the'yd ideally be around > the > 864x514 px size, as that's a reasonable size for them to be printed on > A4. > I’m not going to print them, I’m trying to animate your poster. > On 31 Ja

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
Cheers steve, if you're going to re-size them, the'yd ideally be around the 864x514 px size, as that's a reasonable size for them to be printed on A4. On 31 January 2010 21:25, Steve wrote: > On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:13:18 -, Liam Wilson > wrote: > > > Yeah, like say "Help us finish this" sor

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Steve
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:13:18 -, Liam Wilson wrote: > Yeah, like say "Help us finish this" sort of thing? sounds like a good > incentive! > I’m playing with your screen shots and impress at the moment to see what I can do. -- Steve -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
Yeah, like say "Help us finish this" sort of thing? sounds like a good incentive! On 31 January 2010 21:00, Steve wrote: > On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:35:25 -, Liam Wilson > wrote: > > > I suppose the problem we have with creating something like this is, the > > general public already KNOW what

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Paul Sutton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jonathon Fernyhough wrote: > On 31 January 2010 17:28, Paul Sutton wrote: >> Er you need the backing of parents to allow their kids in to a chat >> room, we need to educate everyone, what you said here implies that >> "mums" are computer illiterate.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Steve
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 20:35:25 -, Liam Wilson wrote: > I suppose the problem we have with creating something like this is, the > general public already KNOW what windows is, a lot don't really know what > Ubuntu, and Linux are. Perhaps if we were to create a TV advert, the main > purpose of i

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
I suppose the problem we have with creating something like this is, the general public alrieady KNOW what windows is, a lot don't really know what Ubuntu, and Linux are. Perhaps if we were to create a TV advert, the main purpose of it would be to inform people what Ubuntu is. Perhaps a TV advert w

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread alan c
James Milligan wrote: > On 31/01/2010 20:01, alan c wrote: >> Steve wrote: >> >>> A new thread to discus a possible TV advert >>> >> I was at a friend's house this afternoon (Sunday) and happened to >> notice a Microsoft Windows 7 tv advert on the channel which was sky >> sports, at appr

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread James Milligan
On 31/01/2010 20:01, alan c wrote: > Steve wrote: > >> A new thread to discus a possible TV advert >> > I was at a friend's house this afternoon (Sunday) and happened to > notice a Microsoft Windows 7 tv advert on the channel which was sky > sports, at approximately 3.30 pm , in the midd

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread alan c
Steve wrote: > A new thread to discus a possible TV advert I was at a friend's house this afternoon (Sunday) and happened to notice a Microsoft Windows 7 tv advert on the channel which was sky sports, at approximately 3.30 pm , in the middle of a lot of sports programs. It occurred to me that if

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 31 January 2010 17:28, Paul Sutton wrote: > > Er you need the backing of parents to allow their kids in to a chat > room,  we need to educate everyone,  what you said here implies that > "mums" are computer illiterate. I hate to tell you this, but most parents haven't got a clue what their chi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Rob Beard
James Milligan wrote: > Just a quick question - I'm thinking of doing a quick mock up of this > with some titles in place of where the footage would be. > > However, I use Adobe software to edit... which isn't compatible with > Ubuntu, nor is it open source > > Would I be brewing up a whole h

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Paul Sutton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Russell Tester wrote: > Liam, you have a good point there. If this is going to work, IMHO it > needs to work on the free and open nature of the software itself. A > concept for making people watch this and not spending a penny is that > people will nee

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Matthew Walster
On 31 January 2010 14:30, Michael Douglas wrote: > Negative reinforcement is much more effective than positive, ask any > number of companies, or politicians/election campaigners. Do it right, > so that you seem to have respect for your opponent, but make yourself > seem better, and it's very popu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Philip Stubbs
On 31 January 2010 14:28, Steve wrote: > > A new thread to discus a possible TV advert Personally, I think it would be hard to answer a broad set of questions in one advert. The chance of missing the point for a broad range of potential target audience is too great. therefore, it would be better

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Russell Tester
Liam, you have a good point there. If this is going to work, IMHO it needs to work on the free and open nature of the software itself. A concept for making people watch this and not spending a penny is that people will need to _want_ to see this video, how can we get it number one on youtube? Make

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread James Milligan
On 31/01/2010 16:16, Joe O'Dell wrote: > Ok, so I've had an idea, > Rob said: >> >> Want chat to your friends? >> >> There's an app for that (Empathy) >> >> Want to backup your important pictures and documents? >> >> There's an app for that (Ubuntu One) >> >> Want to run alongside Windows? >> >> T

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Joe O'Dell
Ok, so I've had an idea, Rob said: > > Want chat to your friends? > > There's an app for that (Empathy) > > Want to backup your important pictures and documents? > > There's an app for that (Ubuntu One) > > Want to run alongside Windows? > > There's an app for that (Wubi) > Why don't we ha

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Rob Beard
On 31/01/2010 15:35, Liam Wilson wrote: > If this is actually going to happen, we need to start thinking of ways > how we can get this video shown to people, whether it be televised, or > viral. If we're going to put our own money or anyone else's money and > time into this we need to make sure

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Rob Beard
On 31/01/2010 15:01, Steve wrote: > Anybody got a pet lynx. > > nine out of ten cats prefer Ubuntu > Maybe you could show a video of a kitten and say when it grows up, it wants to be a Lucid Lynx :-) Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk http

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Rob Beard
On 31/01/2010 14:50, CShadowRun wrote: > I don't think shots of IRC or the forum would be that good, there's alot > of negative stigma around "Chat rooms" and "Online forums" unfortunately :( > To be honest, to a non-geek, the idea of IRC might be off putting. I don't know anyone who isn't a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Rob Beard
On 31/01/2010 14:37, Steve wrote: > On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:30:51 -, Michael Douglas > wrote: > > >> Using new thread, but replying to Liam: >> >> Negative reinforcement is much more effective than positive, ask any >> number of companies, or politicians/election campaigners. Do it right, >>

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Steve
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:23:25 -, CShadowRun wrote: > Jonathon Fernyhough wrote: >> On 31 January 2010 14:58, Steve wrote: >> >>> On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:50:58 -, CShadowRun >>> wrote: >>> I don't think shots of IRC or the forum would be that good, there's alot of negati

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
If this is actually going to happen, we need to start thinking of ways how we can get this video shown to people, whether it be televised, or viral. If we're going to put our own money or anyone else's money and time into this we need to make sure that it isn't a waste of it, agreed? On 31 January

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread CShadowRun
Jonathon Fernyhough wrote: > On 31 January 2010 14:58, Steve wrote: > >> On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:50:58 -, CShadowRun >> wrote: >> >>> I don't think shots of IRC or the forum would be that good, there's alot >>> of negative stigma around "Chat rooms" and "Online forums" unfortunately >>

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
I think it'd be better to show how ubuntu is cost-effective (i.e; Free). If someone sees something that works better than what they have, for a lot less money, then they could possibly be enticed. It could also be noted that ubuntu is much secure to attacks from viruses and such. But yeah, the con

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 31 January 2010 14:58, Steve wrote: > On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:50:58 -, CShadowRun > wrote: >> I don't think shots of IRC or the forum would be that good, there's alot >> of negative stigma around "Chat rooms" and "Online forums" unfortunately >> :( >> > Yes 'Chat Room' = paedophile luring y

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Steve
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:55:01 -, CShadowRun wrote: > Harry Rickards wrote: >> On 31 January 2010 14:50, CShadowRun wrote: >> >> >>> I don't think shots of IRC or the forum would be that good, there's >>> alot >>> of negative stigma around "Chat rooms" and "Online forums" >>> unfortunat

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Steve
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:50:58 -, CShadowRun wrote: > Jonathon Fernyhough wrote: >> On 31 January 2010 14:40, Michael Douglas wrote: >> >>> BSoD look-a-like, followed by user calling support. Advert uses the >>> user on >>> hold to support throughout, but cutting to an Ubuntu user jumping

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread CShadowRun
Harry Rickards wrote: > On 31 January 2010 14:50, CShadowRun wrote: > > >> I don't think shots of IRC or the forum would be that good, there's alot >> of negative stigma around "Chat rooms" and "Online forums" unfortunately :( >> > > What about someone sending an email to the mailing list

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Harry Rickards
On 31 January 2010 14:50, CShadowRun wrote: > I don't think shots of IRC or the forum would be that good, there's alot > of negative stigma around "Chat rooms" and "Online forums" unfortunately :( What about someone sending an email to the mailing list? -- Harry Rickards - ha...@linux.com http

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread CShadowRun
Jonathon Fernyhough wrote: > On 31 January 2010 14:40, Michael Douglas wrote: > >> BSoD look-a-like, followed by user calling support. Advert uses the user on >> hold to support throughout, but cutting to an Ubuntu user jumping online, >> forums, IRC, etc, fixing it quickly. Tagline: "Ubuntu. C

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread CShadowRun
James Milligan wrote: > On 31/01/2010 14:40, Michael Douglas wrote: > >> BSoD look-a-like, followed by user calling support. Advert uses the >> user on hold to support throughout, but cutting to an Ubuntu user >> jumping online, forums, IRC, etc, fixing it quickly. Tagline: "Ubuntu. >> Commun

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Jonathon Fernyhough
On 31 January 2010 14:40, Michael Douglas wrote: > BSoD look-a-like, followed by user calling support. Advert uses the user on > hold to support throughout, but cutting to an Ubuntu user jumping online, > forums, IRC, etc, fixing it quickly. Tagline: "Ubuntu. Community at work." > Ubuntu BSoDs?

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Ashley Whetter
It might be good idea to include at least the majority of subjects covered in the slideshow that is shown when installing ubuntu? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread James Milligan
On 31/01/2010 14:40, Michael Douglas wrote: > BSoD look-a-like, followed by user calling support. Advert uses the > user on hold to support throughout, but cutting to an Ubuntu user > jumping online, forums, IRC, etc, fixing it quickly. Tagline: "Ubuntu. > Community at work." > > On 31/01/2010 1

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Michael Douglas
BSoD look-a-like, followed by user calling support. Advert uses the user on hold to support throughout, but cutting to an Ubuntu user jumping online, forums, IRC, etc, fixing it quickly. Tagline: "Ubuntu. Community at work." On 31/01/2010 14:38, Liam Wilson wrote: Yeah, I guess so. I suppose b

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Liam Wilson
Yeah, I guess so. I suppose by putting other OS' down, we are in turn, giving Ubuntu a more positive image. To acheive this I guess we could use the aforementioned idea of someone bieng on hold and then somone getting an instant reply on the forums for free. On 31 January 2010 14:30, Michael Dougl

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Steve
On Sun, 31 Jan 2010 14:30:51 -, Michael Douglas wrote: > Using new thread, but replying to Liam: > > Negative reinforcement is much more effective than positive, ask any > number of companies, or politicians/election campaigners. Do it right, > so that you seem to have respect for your oppo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Michael Douglas
Using new thread, but replying to Liam: Negative reinforcement is much more effective than positive, ask any number of companies, or politicians/election campaigners. Do it right, so that you seem to have respect for your opponent, but make yourself seem better, and it's very popular (See: Mac

[ubuntu-uk] Lucid Lynx TV Advert

2010-01-31 Thread Steve
A new thread to discus a possible TV advert -- Steve -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/